I sing a song to myself and then the beat is how I what my pace should be for my strides. It helped me get perfect on the board twice in a row! Listen to this guy he knows what he’s talking about if you memorize your cadence you will get better at taking off the board better!❤
Hey John, I teach jumpers that it is better to be short of the board than to reach for it and that you will actually get a better distance.this is true. Plus gives a better indication of the run up and changes that need to be made
I'd tend to agree. The last stride is always the shortest (or should be) of the final steps into the board with the pen being the longer. As a guide the last step should be circa 2.20 for most adult jumpers. The second last 2.50m. The mat work videos on the channel referenced in the video will give you more detail on what I'm saying here. Hope that helps. Oh, we do a lot of training to the pen step length - you'll see that in the videos. Doing that will hopefully establish the correct/optimum final step length with repetition.
What would suggest for a male triple jumper with a hop-step distance of 10.1m+ but who only has a 4.50m jump phase? This is happening from going too vertical on the final phase, how would you combat this?
Thanks for the question: potentially you are over hopping and leaving yourself with insufficient speed to get out of the jump. It can be difficult for jumpers of all levels to get a consistency with phase ratio. Adrenaline etc takes over in comps and the ratio can fall aside (sometimes without negatively affecting performance). So, I would try for more of a balanced phase ratio initially - go for 33-35%% of total distance for the hop, 30% for the step and then 33-35% for the jump. Try this off a medium length approach first by dividing your average jump distances off this length approach by the percentages just mentioned and put tape or sand lines on the track and try to get that rhythm. Obviously this will need to translate to full approach efforts and comps but it may help with your distribution of effort and your feel for the event. All the best and let us know how you do.
Hey thanks for another great video I had some questions about training when it comes to triple jump what’s the longest approach your athletes do in practice and complete a jump from? When I’m jumping I normally stick to 3-5 doubles and if I’m doing full approach I do my first phase. But also what I’ve noticed is that in competition I jump 14.70m from 6 doubles but when I go to any longer approach it feels a bit harder to achieve that same distance or better. I’ve been thinking since I mostly do short approach jumps in practice I’m not used to carrying more speed down the runway. But I’m still trying to find the ideal approach for me in triple jump.
Nick, I think you have answered your question in part. It sounds that you are not too far away from getting that sweet-spot between medium length e.g. circa 12 steps in total steps to the board jumps and also hopping from your full length run-up in practise. Two things come to mind for me here though: 1) If you are in competitive season and have a number of comps coming up on the bounce then hopefully the comps will get you right on top of that specific requirement to take-off at speed (nothing beats getting up to competition requirements that a run of comps - as long as you are properly conditioned and ready from the training you have done - which I'm sure you are). The second answer could be to include some very testing - in terms of the contact forces involved plyos in your training as you lead up to comps. Doing two steps from an 8-10 step approach off a low plyo platform and really going for it is such an example. This will give you the confidence and develop the CNS in order to hopefully cope with the landing forces and of course there's a technical element as you need to hit the right shapes to move through the phases. Only do 4-6 efforst per session if you try this. Actually there is a third possibility and that's phase ratio ... it'll take me a long time to write an answer here, so I may address this in a future video. One pointer - try to get the step at 30% of your total distance and work out a hop length to go for in training, so that you can do that. Hope this helps and good luck.
Sorry just another quick question, my son's coach makes constant changes to his run up depending on where he hit the board on the last jump. My theory is that it's more to do with the run up ie did he push of xtra hard at start, not as hard etc and it's more about consistency than making little changes per jump
I sing a song to myself and then the beat is how I what my pace should be for my strides. It helped me get perfect on the board twice in a row! Listen to this guy he knows what he’s talking about if you memorize your cadence you will get better at taking off the board better!❤
My first meet is tomorrow, this will definitely help me out. Much love for you and this channel
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Hey John, I teach jumpers that it is better to be short of the board than to reach for it and that you will actually get a better distance.this is true. Plus gives a better indication of the run up and changes that need to be made
I'd tend to agree. The last stride is always the shortest (or should be) of the final steps into the board with the pen being the longer. As a guide the last step should be circa 2.20 for most adult jumpers. The second last 2.50m. The mat work videos on the channel referenced in the video will give you more detail on what I'm saying here. Hope that helps.
Oh, we do a lot of training to the pen step length - you'll see that in the videos. Doing that will hopefully establish the correct/optimum final step length with repetition.
Long jumpers don’t get enough respect. It’s so hard
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What would suggest for a male triple jumper with a hop-step distance of 10.1m+ but who only has a 4.50m jump phase? This is happening from going too vertical on the final phase, how would you combat this?
Thanks for the question: potentially you are over hopping and leaving yourself with insufficient speed to get out of the jump. It can be difficult for jumpers of all levels to get a consistency with phase ratio. Adrenaline etc takes over in comps and the ratio can fall aside (sometimes without negatively affecting performance). So, I would try for more of a balanced phase ratio initially - go for 33-35%% of total distance for the hop, 30% for the step and then 33-35% for the jump. Try this off a medium length approach first by dividing your average jump distances off this length approach by the percentages just mentioned and put tape or sand lines on the track and try to get that rhythm. Obviously this will need to translate to full approach efforts and comps but it may help with your distribution of effort and your feel for the event. All the best and let us know how you do.
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Hey thanks for another great video I had some questions about training when it comes to triple jump what’s the longest approach your athletes do in practice and complete a jump from? When I’m jumping I normally stick to 3-5 doubles and if I’m doing full approach I do my first phase. But also what I’ve noticed is that in competition I jump 14.70m from 6 doubles but when I go to any longer approach it feels a bit harder to achieve that same distance or better. I’ve been thinking since I mostly do short approach jumps in practice I’m not used to carrying more speed down the runway. But I’m still trying to find the ideal approach for me in triple jump.
Nick, I think you have answered your question in part. It sounds that you are not too far away from getting that sweet-spot between medium length e.g. circa 12 steps in total steps to the board jumps and also hopping from your full length run-up in practise. Two things come to mind for me here though: 1) If you are in competitive season and have a number of comps coming up on the bounce then hopefully the comps will get you right on top of that specific requirement to take-off at speed (nothing beats getting up to competition requirements that a run of comps - as long as you are properly conditioned and ready from the training you have done - which I'm sure you are). The second answer could be to include some very testing - in terms of the contact forces involved plyos in your training as you lead up to comps. Doing two steps from an 8-10 step approach off a low plyo platform and really going for it is such an example. This will give you the confidence and develop the CNS in order to hopefully cope with the landing forces and of course there's a technical element as you need to hit the right shapes to move through the phases. Only do 4-6 efforst per session if you try this.
Actually there is a third possibility and that's phase ratio ... it'll take me a long time to write an answer here, so I may address this in a future video. One pointer - try to get the step at 30% of your total distance and work out a hop length to go for in training, so that you can do that. Hope this helps and good luck.
Sorry just another quick question, my son's coach makes constant changes to his run up depending on where he hit the board on the last jump. My theory is that it's more to do with the run up ie did he push of xtra hard at start, not as hard etc and it's more about consistency than making little changes per jump
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