Can you beat Armored Core Last Raven using ONLY Hover Legs? Pt . 1

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  • @omnibot5848
    @omnibot5848 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Poor guy, nobody told him that hovers have an alternative to bunny hopping that lets them travel at top ground speed for almost no energy drain or heat.

    • @Sabbathfaax
      @Sabbathfaax  ปีที่แล้ว +40

      What's that

    • @dixego
      @dixego ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Sabbathfaax I think they're talking about this th-cam.com/video/1Zw4T5IvV8Q/w-d-xo.html

    • @Sabbathfaax
      @Sabbathfaax  ปีที่แล้ว +49

      if you're talking about that overboosting tech with hover legs, i straight up thought they only worked in AC3/Silent Line like how OB cancelling only really works those games and thats my bad. I'll probably start using it more but with how small many of the stages the hardest missions are + less en drain to play with, it might not be as useful as it is in early gen 3

    • @omnibot5848
      @omnibot5848 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      @@Sabbathfaax Hovers have a pretty long minimum boost dash distance when you just tap it, and unlike other legs they can cancel the braking animation into another boost dash. As a result if you tap boost with the right rhythm you can chain short dashes without letting the brake animation play out enough to slow you down. Since this uses basically no energy, you can actually make good use of super low calorific value generators like G69 and G78 to mitigate the heat of hover boosters without worrying about their low energy output.

    • @HowlingDoom
      @HowlingDoom ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@omnibot5848 Is this the case in all 3rd gen games or just Last Raven? Currently playing through AC3 for the first time and while I got used to bunny hopping, I couldn't really get a good feel for hover legs despite liking them conceptually.

  • @emiliodeguarda2005
    @emiliodeguarda2005 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    The Kayak... arguably the silliest set of legs in the game. Nice.

  • @armoredcorelore
    @armoredcorelore ปีที่แล้ว +28

    A nicely edited video and a challenge i think is worth watching till the end. Keep it up.

  • @aboveaveragegaming6120
    @aboveaveragegaming6120 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Solid video 👍

    • @Sabbathfaax
      @Sabbathfaax  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks man, it's def a bit rough around the edges but we all start somewhere y'know? Will def clean stuff up pt 2 onwards

  • @lesslighter
    @lesslighter ปีที่แล้ว +48

    there is a little mechanic thing about the "braking" animation for hover legs you can cancel into a strafe so now you are now just strafe boosting while not bunny hopping in short do not go in circles but in cardinals
    but this does not rectify the one issue hovers have in last raven.... squishy legs they have generally a larger hitbox than other AC part so they will be the first to go in a firefight and worst the first one to get destroyed so yeah...
    in short treat boosting with hover legs like quick boost in 4th gen this will help you

  • @samuraizwb
    @samuraizwb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This... hit me with nostalgia when i heard Custom Robo music while you were describing leg movement types XD
    Thank you for the trip down memory lane, and good work on the challenge, looks like it was a bit of a nightmare.

  • @b0tster
    @b0tster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just found ur channel. super excited to see more long time armored core fans popping up to talk about a really good long running series after 6 got announced. totally excited for more vids, subbed!

  • @jaybrielrosales9191
    @jaybrielrosales9191 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your very consistent analysis and citing each weapon or equipment mentioned as well! I very much have love armored core for years but I only ever really got to see armored core 4 and armored core 5. So I'm really getting myself into the series proper. Currently playing through for answer and after that I honestly want to play last Raven.

  • @DavidAdamBishop
    @DavidAdamBishop ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The original hover legs came from beating a guy who used two machine guns. They don’t bunny hop but they should be able to out turn most targeting systems.

  • @benjaminzelnick3983
    @benjaminzelnick3983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep up the good work dude. Long form ac content is always appreciated.

  • @Squiddy0912
    @Squiddy0912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game is objectively the best in the series because you can take revenge on the capitalists.
    Excellent video editing as well, Raven.
    Fly high.

  • @gembocobo9484
    @gembocobo9484 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I did beat it with hover leg build in ppsspp I did not know this was a challenge mode at all. I just looked at the high stats that mattered to me. Specially turning speed which kinda sucked for all legs that weren't hover type.

    • @spectr__
      @spectr__ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here, including the whole arena. Hover legs were great, you can dodge a lot without even boosting.

  • @baval5
    @baval5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hover legs *can* bunny hop, but its extremely difficult. You need to boost just a sliver of enough to be considered airborne, and then you need to reboost when youre actually touching the ground and not before which can be difficult to tell with how hover legs work. Uneven terrain can throw off the timing.
    They dont really have to though since they can cancel their break into a boost.

  • @Egoistafixe
    @Egoistafixe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never had issues with Hover legs in any of the 3rd gen games, and I did use them extensively, honestly didn't know this was even a challenge, guess it's one of those cases where you just make it work by getting used to it, one thing was for use, after playing these for so long, I had legit issues moving to other leg types.

  • @SkyReaperOne
    @SkyReaperOne ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Title"
    Me: Yes. Already did that ages ago. One of my best mechs was built using hover legs too.
    Also used hover legs to make a non-OP-I machine that could actually fly indefinitely with a specialized piloting technique, though that machine was terrible in combat. It was more of a proof of concept then anything. XD
    Hover legs have a lot of downsides and definitely aren't beginner friendly, but they do pose certain advantages. Their ground speed even without boosting is phenomenal and they tend to have ridiculously energy efficient boosting, allowing them to maintain sustained flight easier then even reverse jointed legs. Their floatiness makes them more difficult to juke the enemy's lock, but there is a range where they can comfortably stay ahead of enemy fire without allowing the enemy FCS to get a chance to properly compensate. Their mobility helps a lot at staying in that sweet spot. So yes. They are difficult to use and break down easily. But they are built to promote long range engagements and avoid enemy fire. They are probably the legs that push OP-I's advantages the most.

  • @TheFirstRaven
    @TheFirstRaven ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The intro hook is pretty strong no wonder this videos is performing well

  • @jonbezeau3124
    @jonbezeau3124 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One technique that can help hover legs is to start Overboost, get up to speed, then boost up a little and cut OB. You can glide considerably without spending any further energy or generating heat.

  • @Mark-fc7tu
    @Mark-fc7tu ปีที่แล้ว

    It's an interesting and informative video. Not sure how to feel about the non-stop witty commentary but I like to learn about the mechanics of iconic PlayStation titles that I've never played before. Got into PS1 Armor Core 1 emulation recently and I like using the heavily armored caterpillar tank tread legs paired with a laser cannon with a high output/capacity generator.

  • @ShirakiAkarin
    @ShirakiAkarin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do find it a little sad that Last Raven doesn't have missions on water that would make the Hover legs useful, there's only that one at the dam, and is only useful for half of the mission.

  • @corbenmurphy1807
    @corbenmurphy1807 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just subbed! Keep making great content like this!

  • @redalchemy7322
    @redalchemy7322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job Raven, to many more victories

  • @kakyoin5713
    @kakyoin5713 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    when part 2

  • @deemer3918
    @deemer3918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The HP pistols are stupid good as hangar units, to the point they're banned in competitive pvp play. Free to use as normal weapons.

  • @ColtonGamingTV
    @ColtonGamingTV ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait! Last Raven has 7 different endings? Now I see why it is regarded as one of the best Armored Core games. As someone who has joined the fandom recently and have beaten a good amount of now, now I can't wait to play Last Raven!

  • @TheFirstRaven
    @TheFirstRaven ปีที่แล้ว

    33:00 I didn't think missile boats would be that effective!

  • @mistermann4163
    @mistermann4163 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I played Nexus I only had hover legs on my 2nd loadout paired with the core which came with the rapid fire back drone. When I got to the mission when you fight the bombers I was stumped until I used that loadout with a pair of sniper rifles for both hands. And that made me beat the whole game with it's gliding around while dishing out large amounts of damage.

  • @dredavis3594
    @dredavis3594 ปีที่แล้ว

    I give you props! As an AC OG I approve this venture. The only title I didn’t complete was verdict day. It’s trash and they changed the scale and style of the AC’s. I played for 5 minutes, cried like when EA destroyed NFL 2k franchise and took that trash back to GameStop.

  • @cstgraphpads2091
    @cstgraphpads2091 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can't be capitalist if they're monopolistic.

  • @RobTheSquire
    @RobTheSquire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish the gundam games were made like the Amrored Core games.

  • @sulfurbomb8598
    @sulfurbomb8598 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the "Driad missile launcher"
    Tf is a Driad
    Dry Ad
    Dryad

  • @mikedavies6979
    @mikedavies6979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mollycoddle... I honestly hated this mission, and this is coming from a bipedal who is good with blades. The reason I hate this mission is a little different though...
    I hate it because my version of Molly was either bugged or just felt like being an asshole. The GL on his back would never run out of ammo and he used them alongside his blades... as in he would blade me, and within a fraction of a second I would get point blank double barreled by his back GL.
    And considering I was a lighter weight AC geared for hit and run... that tactic became hit and BOOM to the face... seriously, the dude was straight cheating.

  • @vissler
    @vissler ปีที่แล้ว

    [ Sabbath ]
    "..WHAT IS HE COOKING?!?"

  • @LeonardoSilva-gr5fx
    @LeonardoSilva-gr5fx ปีที่แล้ว

    wait, part 1?, do you expect to make more, awesome.
    nice videos, I hope to see more content after ACVI comes out

  • @m.ubaidaadam
    @m.ubaidaadam ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn't think i would enjoy this as much as i did! eagerly awaiting part 2 also do you think ac6 will improve hover legs if they even have them at all?

    • @Sabbathfaax
      @Sabbathfaax  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think they'll have them at all, but there's no doubt if they are in AC6, Fromsoft will balance them better than they did nearly two decades ago.

    • @sirderp2343
      @sirderp2343 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what I have seen, they improved them by turning them into one Tank Leg (VE-42B) that focuses on aerial combat. You gain the ability to purchase it after the first mission of Chapter 5, called Escape.

  • @Bug-Intercourser
    @Bug-Intercourser ปีที่แล้ว

    33:28 this build is really making me wanna copy it for AC6, sans the hoverfucks

  • @OrcaBrigade
    @OrcaBrigade ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it and I'll keep watchin' it. But it's gauge, Gay-jh (juh without the uh sound). Not Gauge as in gauze. Now, I'm a southerner in the USA. So if you differ from this, please do tell me (he says actually expecting a reply *face desk*). Otherwise I'm so damned stoked to see some AC anything vids being put up! I played the HELL out of ACLR!!!!!!!!

  • @komi-samabeliever7319
    @komi-samabeliever7319 ปีที่แล้ว

    About Sorcerer and why Jack wants him dead, spoiler alerts.
    First of all, no, Sorcerer did not betray Jack. He'd be the last person to ever betray him as Sorcerer and Jack-O was genuinely good friend, Ed himself noted this peculiar friendship in Sorcerer's bio as Jack not really a person who have many friends.
    It maybe foolish and heartless at first, but Jack's reasons really is made sense due to one thing: Pulverizer. Those thing can learn from the battle it took with Ravens, whether it winning or not, it doesn't matter. It only takes time until it becomes truly unstoppable thanks to the grind the surviving Ravens unintentionally provide them.
    Even though Crow's talent as a Raven and his experience made him crucial and reliable member of Vertex surpasses Sorcerer's, remember that Vertex although small, were filled with what considered as Elite Ravens. That includes Sorcerer, so he ain't slouch. He maybe the best 3rd or 4th pilot in the group, so by him surviving only to encounter Pulverizer and taught it some skill could pose a serious issue.
    Jack did what he had to do, to betray his only friend.

    • @Sabbathfaax
      @Sabbathfaax  ปีที่แล้ว

      Dw I know this, I'm putting myself through the eyes of the viewer who's never played Last Raven for this challenge run because so few may have played the games thoroughly. Esp the hardest in the series

  • @dargondarkfire
    @dargondarkfire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trying to remember which ac game it was, i think it was one of the ac2 shoot offs that had a final boss people liked to call super nineball and it would launch huge missile swarms at you every time you left the ground, and had infinite ammo so bunny hopping or flying combat was a death sentence.

  • @TheFirstRaven
    @TheFirstRaven ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @KewneRain
    @KewneRain ปีที่แล้ว

    answer: yes, but it's EXTREMELY unpleasant

  • @DavidAdamBishop
    @DavidAdamBishop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    L-eye-near cannon

  • @TheFirstRaven
    @TheFirstRaven ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this for research puproses 👀📝

  • @cowboyfrogthelord
    @cowboyfrogthelord ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where's p2 we need p2 this such great content

    • @Sabbathfaax
      @Sabbathfaax  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx, probably not in a bit because of AC6 but I have the script and playthroughs done

    • @cowboyfrogthelord
      @cowboyfrogthelord ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sabbathfaax aight then

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Water missions only?
    What about lava missions D:

  • @noobnaut4666
    @noobnaut4666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what a great video 😃

  • @HaloDJumper
    @HaloDJumper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm playing LR Portable with the dual sticks hack and right now i want an AC to punch me. I am suffering. It's fun, but I'm still suffering.

  • @kanseidorifto2430
    @kanseidorifto2430 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now seeing that this is a thing and having never played an AC game, I'm kinda hoping that the hover frame on the bottom is in Fires of Rubicon, I wanna go around on it

  • @Zretgul_timerunner
    @Zretgul_timerunner ปีที่แล้ว

    This game was my introduction into armored core no womder i found the game hard im hindsight

  • @tallynnyntyg6008
    @tallynnyntyg6008 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact: Mollycoddle, like Genobee before him, is weak to (of all things) the spread-laser arms.

  • @MILDMONSTER1234
    @MILDMONSTER1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hovers break at a light breeze but technically everything’s viable as long as you abuse micro missles and the OP as fuck revolvers that stun and overheat everything

  • @stevenboelke6661
    @stevenboelke6661 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've done quite a few challenge runs in ACLR. I've completed the game without buying anything, for example. I've done Tank only, Quad only, Reverse Joint only, but I don't think I ever finished Hover only... I've also wanted to do a run with minimum AP, but haven't dared try yet.

    • @WatcherMovie008
      @WatcherMovie008 ปีที่แล้ว

      It not possible, some boss units in the game (especially Final Zinaida) will melt you way too quick. Also some missions (like again, Final Zinaida's mission) require you to take some damage before you enter phase two, already gimping you to a point of not being physically possible to complete phase two.

  • @josvoi2854
    @josvoi2854 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Short answer: yes

  • @dmirijp7820
    @dmirijp7820 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:06 Зинаиииидаа, Ты моей любви забытая обидААААа!

  • @wannabkain4400
    @wannabkain4400 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got through most of AC3 with hover legs. But they deffo lack defence.

  • @aggelosaggelos5696
    @aggelosaggelos5696 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    pile bunker
    and super heavy left arm dual laser thing

  • @TheFirstRaven
    @TheFirstRaven ปีที่แล้ว

    12:38 wow!

  • @piushochieng88
    @piushochieng88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Part 2 where? it's been a month :(

  • @null8036
    @null8036 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Becoming new raven at the worst time imaginable" bruh just think about pilot who become new raven just few hours away from Nexus Final Mission. Their first mission will literally become 'SURVIVE'

  • @akhmatnurwahidiyanto2671
    @akhmatnurwahidiyanto2671 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice vidio , i like it so much

  • @nunothedude
    @nunothedude ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly AC3P had some good hover legs imo and im using them in ac4a

  • @AmbroseBoaBowie
    @AmbroseBoaBowie ปีที่แล้ว

    V day was awsome. I was looking for my copy a few hours ago, can’t find it.

  • @silbury2325
    @silbury2325 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why wouldn't you be able to one-build ACLR with hovers...?
    I said ONE-BUILD, btw. You're giving yourself the freedom to change everything else.

  • @pironiero
    @pironiero ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh and yeah, good vid

  • @Stribog1337
    @Stribog1337 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't like this game because it's hard and makes me cry, but I'm interested 😢🎉

  • @philipbarriesda9239
    @philipbarriesda9239 ปีที่แล้ว

    dont ever fire missiles when the enemy is descending, fire when they touch the floor, for grenade launcher ac's just ob around until they deplete thier ammo, for aerial ac's, you want to wait until they touch the floor and then open fire to maximise your damage on them, rifles are fairly useless vs endgame ac's, also look at thier parts and see what they are weak against, energy or ballistic.

  • @kestrel9994
    @kestrel9994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Treads next?

    • @Sabbathfaax
      @Sabbathfaax  ปีที่แล้ว

      dw ive got a great idea for that :)

  • @Azrel00
    @Azrel00 ปีที่แล้ว

    MAD

  • @pironiero
    @pironiero ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried psp version of this game? Is that true that there is not enough controls on psp for it?

  • @Kozoku
    @Kozoku ปีที่แล้ว

    The U is silent in Gauge, pronounced like "gayj"

  • @josephwilson6272
    @josephwilson6272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mispronounced gauge lol. I've never heard it said like that.
    Really awesome video though.

  • @vroiderantas
    @vroiderantas ปีที่แล้ว

    Since there is no part 2 , i assume no.

  • @rushifellpainting4631
    @rushifellpainting4631 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is English not your mother tongue?

    • @pironiero
      @pironiero ปีที่แล้ว

      Why does it matter?

  • @WatcherMovie008
    @WatcherMovie008 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no Human+ in Gen 3, Gen 3 instead has Optional Part Intensify (OP-I for short). In Nexus and onward, OP-I for the AI not only grants them the ability to fire cannons regardless leg type, they get enhanced EN recharge, enhanced cooling, and the biggest bullshit ever, negates overweight restriction, allowing ACs like Molly (whose AC btw is a copycat of Nexus' top Raven, Genobee) to essentially move as if they are not overweight at all (yes, if you try to replicate the AC that he uses, you are like 1500+ overweight from your leg limit). Why they removed this part when it was in AC3 and Silent Line, I will never know. For something that was built in the game since Armored Core 1, Nexus, Ninebreaker, and Last Raven severely gimped you by allowing the AIs to cheat while your hands are tied behind your back while being blindfolded.

  • @RippahRooJizah
    @RippahRooJizah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sorry for your challenge.
    So how is the Pixel 5?

  • @greatestgamer00
    @greatestgamer00 ปีที่แล้ว

    ryu, blanka? some ones a SF fan

  • @gwfranklin1
    @gwfranklin1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @Jairjax
    @Jairjax ปีที่แล้ว

    i HATE the hover legs :(

  • @davidcabrera1939
    @davidcabrera1939 ปีที่แล้ว

    I subscribed to tell you it's called a gay-dj.

  • @dc7981
    @dc7981 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last Raven good balance, plenty of viable weapons if you build around them. Even dual shotguns with EO glass canon AC is good eveything has strengths and weaknesses

  • @jeremyowens81
    @jeremyowens81 ปีที่แล้ว

    have an upvote, i'll sub if you upload part 2.
    i've only played the first original 3 on playstation.

  • @syros_3833
    @syros_3833 ปีที่แล้ว

    hab das spiel mit allen beinen durch gespielt das war nicht schwer

  • @horntuga6080
    @horntuga6080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should have learn how to bunnyhop before you do this

  • @kingdunlap741
    @kingdunlap741 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    poor kid likes communism

  • @TroyTheCatFish
    @TroyTheCatFish ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible Video!!

  • @Epicasfuk
    @Epicasfuk ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey EVERY SINGLE TH-cam CONTENT creator for Armored Core games! Stop using the Machine Gun strats for every fight and showing how to "bunny hop" in mid range as the only way to mitigate damage. This is the Dark Souls equivalent to R1 spamming with a dagger in PVP or just poking with a spear from range over and over / cheesing bosses. There is a full range of cool weapons no on seems to know how to use because they learned how to randomly spam r1 and L1 w/ the machine guns... . You can range most AC 's in 1v1 battles in arena much better then shown in most youtube content using things like long range missles/ pods/ cannons/ big cool fireballs/ fly above them and fatty missiles/ use overboost to zig zag backwards while getting lock ons ... all sorts of cool stats . . Everyone here seems like they have never tried to actually dodge incoming damage the intended way... They just play a lighter mech w/ machine gun spam every fight... Do yourself a favor and play a full play-though "no machine gun or rifle" and see how one can out space / range kite/ use lock on and missiles / other cool weapons in the game besides this constant easy mode.

  • @TroyTheCatFish
    @TroyTheCatFish ปีที่แล้ว

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