I played 15 of From Software's HARDEST games

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  • @osomorose
    @osomorose ปีที่แล้ว +13286

    Shout out to Vaati’s wife who - at some point recently - had to hear about how important it was for him to play through the 15 game discography of Armored Core!

    • @VaatiVidya
      @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +6161

      more like she had to listen to me rant about how bs the platforming section was in the first game

    • @bugwrld8891
      @bugwrld8891 ปีที่แล้ว +708

      ​@@VaatiVidya you are so brave for powering through that section 🫡

    • @sacordle
      @sacordle ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@VaatiVidya 😂

    • @ryuman757
      @ryuman757 ปีที่แล้ว +265

      And justifying $2k on all the games/consoles (at least I sure would need to) 🤣🤣

    • @Orphioux
      @Orphioux ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@ryuman757 This video should cover that pretty easily tbh, he did an awesome job.

  • @VaatiVidya
    @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +7639

    Willem Dafoe really came through for me on this edit

    • @TheGimbishGlob
      @TheGimbishGlob ปีที่แล้ว +76

      YOU AND ME KID

    • @ThiccBuddha
      @ThiccBuddha ปีที่แล้ว +219

      A minute in and already so much William Dafoe. Perfect

    • @china_is_asshole
      @china_is_asshole ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yo... how many comments can even claim that?😂😂

    • @MegaPagliacci
      @MegaPagliacci ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Must return back to formula.

    • @Autismo_the_Impaler
      @Autismo_the_Impaler ปีที่แล้ว +48

      ​@@TheGimbishGlob you have an amazing username.

  • @PeterFaria
    @PeterFaria ปีที่แล้ว +2358

    The reason games from this era didn’t have tutorials, is because they expected you to read the manual, which had a page or more dedicated to the controls.

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      Some games apparently didn’t go into what the controls were in the manual lol

    • @MMD-mi5vx
      @MMD-mi5vx ปีที่แล้ว +191

      @@MILDMONSTER1234 I recall playing an armored core game and only learning the controls through its manuals, I still couldnt beat the first few levels

    • @yosdef
      @yosdef ปีที่แล้ว +53

      i kinda like the idea of going in completely oblivious and learning everything on the fly. no tutorial, no manual

    • @hartonosutrisno5452
      @hartonosutrisno5452 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The biggest issue of Armored Core series is they did not wanted you to learn every single thing from the game, only from Manuals instead. Its basically a Middle-Finger to the players who wanted to play for fun but getting frustated due lack of control smoothness and aiming was very janky at that time (PSX era). The rival at that time is Front Mission 2 where you need to learn everything from the game how choosing wanzers, positioning and skills work during combat and Arena was being introduced where you can bet your own money against certain pilots on 1v1 or Mock battle with fixed setup and skills on each opponents.
      In term of tinkering/parts, Armored Core is second to none but also very unfriendly to beginner/newbie due too complex and slight difference in stats can make you survive or die. Front mission doesnt have that amount but they are very straight-forward and easy to use because they have more detailed of which weapon can be used on your parts.
      If I wanted to say, Armored Core always be not a favorite game to most players because they are far too complex and too hard to play (what do you expect from creator of Dark Souls and Bloodborne?) while Front Mission have same issue but they are not as hard as Armored Core because this is about Strategy game, not an Full-Action game with just complex tunings and settings. I play Front Mission series over 20 years and I can say that Front Mission 2 and 5 is the best experience I have because they are very complex yet very fun to play due enemies are very smart to flank you from both sides and they can erase your team within few turns if you just playing aggresively instead of taking them down slowly while keeping your resources enough for entire mission

    • @prettyyygood4784
      @prettyyygood4784 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Manuals were part of the fun. Most of the older gen console games had beautifully designed manuals, with fully colored images, concept art of the games. Sometimes with bits lore or even an intro to the actual plot of the game. I still remember sitting in the backseat of my mom's car, after I've just gotten a brand new ps1 game, studying the manual super hard and getting super hyped up to finally putting that sweet disc inside the console. We also had this ritual to first put the controller aside and fully watch every little intro clip, including the dev logo animation. Good times ❤

  • @DirtyCasual36
    @DirtyCasual36 ปีที่แล้ว +747

    1:11:10 Fun Fact: The White Glint was designed by *Shoji Kawamori* , the creator of the Macross series, Vision of Escaflowne, and most notably the Diaclone toyline which Hasbro would later adadpt to create the *Transformers* toyline. This man is a LEGEND and Pioneer in Japanese Mecha media. He's also the "Mechanical Director" for the Armored Core games, specifically the 1st Armored Core until Armored Core Nexus.

    • @Ikcatcher
      @Ikcatcher ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I want a Macross game with the gameplay of Armored Core so bad

    • @javilorenzana
      @javilorenzana ปีที่แล้ว

      THIS! Absolutely.

    • @mustysmells817
      @mustysmells817 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      tbf its not clear what his title means, but the "concept" of armored core mechs were designed by Shoji Kawamori himself. The individual parts and AC's were designed by the team, which is why he is credited as "Mechanical Director" and not the main designer.
      The White Glint from For Answer is the only AC he personally designed (It's also the only Custom AC up until that point).

    • @CreativityNull
      @CreativityNull ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Ikcatcher There's a level late into the story of AC6 that reminded me a lot of SDF Macross.

    • @kyokyodisaster4842
      @kyokyodisaster4842 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Even more wild then this: Through Macross designs...he also has his DNA is Battletech / Mechwarrior as well, meaning of the last three mecha series alive today (Gundam included) Shoji Kawamori has his DNA in 2/3rds of them!

  • @MLRF10
    @MLRF10 ปีที่แล้ว +2561

    GODDAMN YOU ACTUALLY DID IT.
    YOU WENT AND PLAYED ALL OF EM.
    HATS OFF TO YOU VAATI

    • @SaxSlaveGael
      @SaxSlaveGael ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Absolutely insane dedication on Vaati's part purchasing all this! A true lord of Fromsoft!

    • @nisnast
      @nisnast ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Fuck now I have to go back and played through the rest of them, I can't lose to Vaati!

    • @Doktor-J420
      @Doktor-J420 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Been playing this game since I was a kid but it's really interesting to watch someone develop an appreciation for it.... President shout-out patches in for answer though it's typically the first appearance of him and it's what started my long-standing grudge

    • @Ducaso
      @Ducaso ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolute mad lad

    • @kentonbaird1723
      @kentonbaird1723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Swear to gods, the Soulsborne/Fromsoft community breeds the most dedicated and the most insane...

  • @VaatiVidya
    @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +2570

    Sorry for taking so long to upload! This video obviously took a long time to research, script and edit, but everyone in my household also got a bad strain of covid, which has taken us 3+ weeks to recover from. Crazy how long it's lasted. Anyway, I hope you all enjoy this behemoth of a video...I know it's probably too long, but I really wanted to document my experience playing these games, and I think it will be a useful point of reference in the future, as we dive into Armored Core VI.
    Really looking forward to reading about everyone else's experiences with these games.
    Thanks for all the support, as always.
    P.S. Ranni's Prepare to Cry is in the later stages of production and should release sometime this month, or next.

    • @connorthompson7683
      @connorthompson7683 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Can't wait for it. And can't wait for the new Armored Core. Thank you vaati 😊

    • @happyphiri4237
      @happyphiri4237 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Get well soon vaati!

    • @dem0nchild610
      @dem0nchild610 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some of these game's are probably impossible to get and if they are they cost an arm and a leg

    • @roswell3875
      @roswell3875 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I appreciate you taking the time to play these games. They don't get enough love.

    • @yurikalashnikov5815
      @yurikalashnikov5815 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad y’all got better❤

  • @alexishylton5357
    @alexishylton5357 ปีที่แล้ว +1271

    Little note I think you missed. In the Old King route of AC4A, if you play the final ambush mission on hard, the fifth next that is added is actually -=YOUR OPERATOR=-, the lady who has been briefing you, by your side through the whole game and both other endings. So hard hitting, and most miss it.

    • @undead_corsair
      @undead_corsair ปีที่แล้ว +70

      That's awesome, I love it when games do stuff like that.

    • @chrisschoenthaler5184
      @chrisschoenthaler5184 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      Having a character who is supposed to be a non-combatant join the fight against you because the situation is just that desperate…
      Yeah. I can see how rough that would be.

    • @massivepileup
      @massivepileup ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I was surprised to hear it's only 4 enemies in the regular fight, I could swear it would throw new ones at me every time I killed some. With everybody from various factions yelling about how horrible you are as they join the fight.

    • @Alex_Barbosa
      @Alex_Barbosa ปีที่แล้ว +18

      What is the context of that mission anyway? Is Old Kimg just some weirdo who likes to blow stuff up? Is there any reason for it or is it just spectacle?

    • @Kasumi_Tashi
      @Kasumi_Tashi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alex_Barbosa with Old King you end up with pure, mindless murder on the cradles to the point that even the remaining Orca members consider you as an animal that has to be put down for the sake of humanity

  • @VaatiVidya
    @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +1056

    2m views! I never expected this video to do so well. This is one of my favourite videos, so thank you all for the support

    • @Sloster
      @Sloster ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Completely deserved, and I hope it gains even more. Very grateful for your ability to introduce so many people to armored lore!

    • @belowbronze8588
      @belowbronze8588 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I watched this when it came out, and started it again as I play (ng++ chapter 4 at present) through AC6, my first AC game.
      Am in love with AC6 and am now tempted to see about playing at least a couple of the old ones.

    • @Rayfireful
      @Rayfireful ปีที่แล้ว +7

      not many video that "recap" all previous Armored Core title in a single video, so it might be one factor

    • @RhynoBytes857
      @RhynoBytes857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's an amazing video. I watched it when it first came out and a couple times after that when I was bored. Now, I revisit it whenever I finish one of the games to rewatch the section on that game. Just started Silent Line, and I'm so glad you got me into the series with this video.

    • @HunterForHire422
      @HunterForHire422 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You got me into AC so you absolutely deserve it

  • @Teruko666
    @Teruko666 ปีที่แล้ว +1177

    "The test is over. You are now.. a Raven."
    That line hit me HARD right in the nostalgia part of my brain

    • @angeihd
      @angeihd ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Never played AC, though I hope to give it a try with its newest installment coming out

    • @Norweeg
      @Norweeg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🐦‍⬛

    • @EmonWBKstudios
      @EmonWBKstudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it was like a shot of dopamine.

    • @michaelt475
      @michaelt475 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      “Unknown enemy approaching rapidly” always freaked me out as a kid

    • @rareraven
      @rareraven ปีที่แล้ว

      Croak?

  • @iamnobody6626
    @iamnobody6626 ปีที่แล้ว +1523

    One thing you missed about the final mission of AC1 is once you get past Nine Ball you run into a second Nine Ball. 14:14 You somehow managed to walk around him while running from the first one. This was your first hint that he was an AI

    • @glacierfox5237
      @glacierfox5237 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      that's funny

    • @BisexualActs1
      @BisexualActs1 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I never would've noticed that, that's hilarious

    • @abclove97
      @abclove97 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I barely saw his feet in the corner, then the two red blips in the map

    • @imthedude2351
      @imthedude2351 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      Maybe it's good he didn't see him
      I feel like the sight of a _second_ Nine-Ball while running away from the first one would've broken him

    • @temxasremd
      @temxasremd ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I noticed after I beat the first one and didn't have enough ammo to fight the second, so I ran.

  • @unfettered2012
    @unfettered2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1400

    Not sure if it was already mentioned, but there are 2 9 balls at the end of Armored Core 1. When you thought he followed you up, that was just the second one. This is the first big reveal that Hustler One is actually an AI, and why destroying the computer terminal ends the mission.

    • @jonathanblair5920
      @jonathanblair5920 ปีที่แล้ว +370

      One of the few times I ever heard my dad swear at a video game was that mission. He spent days trying to figure out how to beat 9 ball, and when the second one came up, he pulled a "Oh, fuck that!" out of nowhere. Startled the hell out of me xD

    • @multiversorenzel
      @multiversorenzel ปีที่แล้ว +76

      is literaly the "Another one" meme

    • @isaacmayer-splain8974
      @isaacmayer-splain8974 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      ​@@multiversorenzel"there is another"

    • @userb1x1
      @userb1x1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      thats like 18 balls wtf

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is why AC6 is backwards, he used my strat, tried to hide by walking backwards. Come on, what else would you expect from NosAAc the Debt Barron?

  • @lushedleshen
    @lushedleshen ปีที่แล้ว +711

    Every time Vaati said “thank god I don’t have to fight that guy again” I laughed like a maniac. A traumatized 32 year old AC vet maniac.

    • @harryedwards2933
      @harryedwards2933 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      as a vet what do u think about fires of rubicon, it’s my first and only ac game as someone who considers themselves a souls vet a i loved it the true ending was very fun to get

    • @lushedleshen
      @lushedleshen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@harryedwards2933 I have some complaints about streamlining out some stats that, in combination with hard lock, gave heavy builds an overwhelming advantage in PvP.
      I hate that you can’t strafe outside of hard lock without firing. I also miss chainboosting, though that’s the AC4 fanboy in me talking that’s not an AC vet thing specifically.
      Also the music. I was most active during AC4, ACFA, ACV, and ACVD. I really wish we had gotten some FreQuency tracks. Fall was the track that played when I fell in love with AC4. It was my “I get it” moment. Also AC6 needs a proper garage theme.
      But overall I love AC6. Definitely there are some pain points for me that are QoL improvements for newer players, but a more accessible experience means more players to share the game with.

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      vAAti/NosAAc is a HACK, VERmin. Ever wonder why he hasn't mention me? Or Walt? or NosAAc, the BACKWARD SCUM of FROM?

    • @joysophia6536
      @joysophia6536 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@lushedleshen That last sentence is an excellent sentiment, and one that I wish was more common.

    • @StardustCorvid
      @StardustCorvid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@lushedleshen Coming back to AC6, my first AC game, after now looking into some of the older games .. I can definitely see where you're coming from.
      Especially with the music, like, AC6 OST isn't *bad*, but there's very few tracks that I'd listen to on the regular. Comparing that from the tracks before, especially from 4 to VD ... It makes me a little disappointed. FreQuency is still a very good band though

  • @f0zzy0zzy
    @f0zzy0zzy ปีที่แล้ว +1824

    OG here. Love the videos. You guys have to understand, back in 1997, this game was blowing our minds. We basically went from stuff like Sonic and Mario to this in a very short time. The graphics and effects were top notch and a lot of the features like customizing your mech were reletively new ideas in video games. It was really a masterpiece for it's day, looking back on it now.

    • @coreyjameshaims449
      @coreyjameshaims449 ปีที่แล้ว +132

      Completely agree, it was the visible changes to your AC as you swapped/changed parts that blew my mind

    • @f0zzy0zzy
      @f0zzy0zzy ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@coreyjameshaims449 yeah! Stuff like that was crazy back then!

    • @rylandvance5304
      @rylandvance5304 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@coreyjameshaims449 Couple that with all the paint schemes too that all worked relatively well and it just felt awesome having a fully customized Core that you built yourself.

    • @afkbender3686
      @afkbender3686 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      YES SIR!!! It's crazy that my son can play a series at the same age now when i was playing AC1.

    • @afkbender3686
      @afkbender3686 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      AC:Fires of rubicon is going to smack and smack it hard!

  • @IonSwarmer
    @IonSwarmer ปีที่แล้ว +694

    Fun fact: In AC4A if you fly directly up in the Cradle missions, the Assault Cell satellites that ORCA wants to destroy will start to open fire on you. Your operator panics, having no idea what they are, and orders you to lower altitude before you die.

    • @luichinplaystation610
      @luichinplaystation610 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Can you betray Old King and save the humans in the cradle?

    • @lesslighter
      @lesslighter ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@luichinplaystation610 no youd have to kill 100 million lives to finish destroy cradle 3

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That, and the fact that SoM can leave the mission area are insanely cool details

  • @ArmoredCoreLegacy
    @ArmoredCoreLegacy ปีที่แล้ว +1596

    Last Raven hit this man so hard he had to go back THREE GAMES to prepare himself

    • @justinl8791
      @justinl8791 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      We are NOT joking when we say Last Raven is THE HARDEST game FROM has ever made. They changed too much to the point you have to completely relearn what makes all your cores & weapons tick.

    • @Dogarooroo
      @Dogarooroo ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Last raven do be like that.

    • @RayShadow278
      @RayShadow278 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      @@justinl8791 But when you DO learn it, that knowledge becomes ingrained into your muscles and it never really goes away lol (especially if your first exposure to it was jumping from Silent Line Portable to Last Raven Portable)

    • @HammerspaceCreature
      @HammerspaceCreature ปีที่แล้ว +81

      The thing I don't like about Last Raven is it's mostly hard because all your opponents just cheat. With the Pulveriser fights I get it, it's not supposed to be an even playing field, but every time it sets up a mission as a duel between two ravens to see who is strongest I'm like screw you no it's not! The AI is literally ignoring half the game's mechanics and playing the game like it's AC4 and they are in a NEXT.

    • @danhectic5629
      @danhectic5629 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i've owned it for years and am too scared to even grind Nexus & try it.

  • @shatteredanam3284
    @shatteredanam3284 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    I love how you became a sort of shadow of nineball in master of arena, with the red AC, Karasawa and moonlight. Incredibly fitting

    • @zg1k68
      @zg1k68 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I don't recall 9-ball ever using the Karasawa in a game. He had WG-XP2000 pulse gun, LS2001 blade, WM-S40/2 small missile and his most terrifying WC-GN230 Grenade Launcher. There's a visual novel of sorts where he was depicted using the moonlight/karasawa combo that maybe you're referring to?

    • @omppusolttu5799
      @omppusolttu5799 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@zg1k68 Laser sword and energy gun, not the *specific* weapons but similar typed weapons. Same with the chassis, probably not the excactly same parts, but pretty similar parts.

    • @zg1k68
      @zg1k68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@omppusolttu5799 he used a pulse gun not a laser weapon

    • @Tortle-Man
      @Tortle-Man 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nineball does use a Karasawa in one of the games.

    • @thiccthighssavelives5866
      @thiccthighssavelives5866 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Tortle-Man If i recall. I think that was actually a linear rifle

  • @lostnumber08
    @lostnumber08 ปีที่แล้ว +630

    "From this moment on, you are, a Raven" I played this game when it first came out, and that line gives me chills.

    • @CuidightheachODuinn
      @CuidightheachODuinn ปีที่แล้ว +17

      _Caw, caw. BANG! Fuck, I'm dead._ That quote from The Crow is quite fitting for my memory of AC.

  • @Bankers-Dozen
    @Bankers-Dozen ปีที่แล้ว +460

    The idea of having to go back to a previous game and farm for parts just so you can import a save strong enough to do the first mission of another game is wild to me. You have the determination of a god!

    • @Josh-jw3go
      @Josh-jw3go ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its so cool though. I wish more games had a feature like that

    • @PeachDragon_
      @PeachDragon_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@Josh-jw3goit's cool for armored core but as a standard rule it would be hell to do it for another game

    • @yourdad5799
      @yourdad5799 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Josh-jw3go Yea but imagine wanting to play one game so you buy it but then you find out that you have to buy another just to win the first mission of this one. Doesn't sound good to me

    • @Gator_Queen8188
      @Gator_Queen8188 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The thing with the first mission is that its one of 3 u can choose, bolt is super not supposed to be fought on ur first playthru. Its basically a trap that sets the tone for the rest of the game

    • @sharp7j
      @sharp7j หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PeachDragon_ Its actually genius. You start out with 3 options for first mission. Its a natural and automatic difficulty select. If you can beat the super hard one, you are on track for the hard path. If you take the easy mission, you are on track for easy missions. Its an amazing way to make sure everyone plays their ideal difficulty, and makes subsequent playthroughs more fun "Ah I'm ready for the hard route now and get revenge!"

  • @RealBillyFanword
    @RealBillyFanword ปีที่แล้ว +417

    Fun Fact: The armor design of the Alonne Knight Captains from Dark Souls 2 was partially inspired by 9-Ball.

    • @bigdumbfatcat2869
      @bigdumbfatcat2869 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Also the Pursuer is likely an Armored Core reference as well. He glides all over the place, he gets dropped from the air, his eye glows in red like a mech, his curse attack fires like a bunch of homing rockets, etc.

    • @Gamekrayz
      @Gamekrayz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But they're nothing alike?

    • @spinyslasher6586
      @spinyslasher6586 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@Gamekrayz the helmet, the oversized pauldrons. Those resemble that of 9 ball.

    • @irdialm
      @irdialm ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@bigdumbfatcat2869 dont forget Patches is straight up an Armored Core character and his Japanese dialog always references it

    • @talbrys
      @talbrys 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gamekrayz if wikias have taught me anything it's that nerds will find any sign of the slightest possibility something popular has some tenuous link to their favorite "x" or some other secret meaning that only they can discern. It's safer to assume it's ego posting in lack of actual evidence for their claim.

  • @biasmushroom6311
    @biasmushroom6311 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Vaati *running away* “AUUIUUGH AUUUUGH! AUUUUGH!”
    9-Ball *chasing him down* “WHY are you running? WHY ARE YOU RUNNING.”

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is the point of the backwards theme in AC6/ vAAti is NosAAc, Brutus, and even the pedophile AC in the Ex arena.

    • @torifin755
      @torifin755 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@The_Vesperas i beg your pardon...the what...AC? in the EX arena?

  • @invaderatlai3433
    @invaderatlai3433 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    Something to note about Kota Hoshino's band, FreQuency, is that both the drummer and violinist are capable composers in their own right. Both of them composed boss themes for Bloodborne!

  • @sicdedworm09
    @sicdedworm09 ปีที่แล้ว +446

    “I pressed pause so I could cry here.” I feel that lmao. This is amazing. The nine ball return I lost it.

  • @harryguidotti3815
    @harryguidotti3815 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    I'll be honest, I love Black Flint. Even though the name was a initially a joke, the fact that you made this antithesis to White Glint that turned out to be just as legendarily capable of not more is awesome.

    • @masonjones7777
      @masonjones7777 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Not to mention it's tonal look, by swapping out the parts made for it with more utilitarian components it makes it seem far more serious and professional as opposed to loud and proud

    • @devindeocharan8323
      @devindeocharan8323 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Alongside that, Black Flint plays the role of black knight to the white knight of White Glint. Thr Black Flint who had played both sides, that had become monster, whereas White Glint would have held strong. Their mirriors, accidentally at that and I love it

    • @mayavil
      @mayavil ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Memento Mori

    • @Shadow-sword
      @Shadow-sword ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I can’t help but chuckle at him making black flint, with the final boss of verdict day being a butchered revival of white glint often called black glint it continues the trend of fighting your character from older gens

  • @clumsymoe
    @clumsymoe ปีที่แล้ว +512

    This man commited and went through the full package of experience as authentcally as possible. I respect it. He might be the last person to ever do that.

    • @trashkitty8736
      @trashkitty8736 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      this video was pretty fun to watch, as i did the same thing recently, played through all of the ac games (except for VD currently) on mostly original hardware, and i gotta same, its a very fun experience, would totally recommend xD

    • @sickrandy2946
      @sickrandy2946 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      yeah if only it didn't cost $2,000 more people would do it lmao

    • @Altra2503
      @Altra2503 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sickrandy2946 if you have a decent computer you can emulate up to last raven easily

    • @ponkotuu
      @ponkotuu ปีที่แล้ว +25

      ​@@sickrandy2946true, any 'retro' gaming of any sort has gotten so overpriced that its mind blowing.

    • @sickrandy2946
      @sickrandy2946 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ponkotuu it's a god damn shame. so many classic games unavailable to anyone without emulators. and the emulator experience is not the same fr.

  • @WritingOnGames
    @WritingOnGames ปีที่แล้ว +347

    8:30 watching that footage of that specific mission... I know that pain man. I know that pain.

    • @VaatiVidya
      @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Hey, great to see you here! I loved your thorough analysis of all of these games, and I'm very thankful that I could compare my experiences against your own. I wanted to shout out your vid but this video script just got out of control..
      Anyone reading this comment should check out the Writing on Games "Getting to Grips with Armored Core" video 👍

    • @VaatiVidya
      @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +112

      And yes, that mission was just..hell. I was stuck on it for like 20 minutes only to die like that lol

    • @WritingOnGames
      @WritingOnGames ปีที่แล้ว +69

      ​@@VaatiVidya no worries! Just cool to see someone else go through the series and examine it from a newcomer's perspective, especially seeing as you cover the games I missed.

    • @mikel287
      @mikel287 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      This exchange has the same energy as the "you son of a bitch" buff handshake meme

    • @antiv4l3nt
      @antiv4l3nt ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mikel287 Yep except they both had same trauma with Nine Ball

  • @osunightfall
    @osunightfall ปีที่แล้ว +1251

    I completely love this video. I adore Armored Core, but I have never been able to share that enjoyment with anyone. This video makes me feel like I got the opportunity to kick back with a pal and geek out over Armored Core, an experience I never realized how much I wanted. Thanks so much for making this.

    • @VaatiVidya
      @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +230

      That's awesome

    • @ryanb6614
      @ryanb6614 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@VaatiVidya You're awesome

    • @thirdworldgamer8717
      @thirdworldgamer8717 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@ryanb6614You're awesome too

    • @chrismanuel9768
      @chrismanuel9768 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      4/For Answer best games.

    • @EpicLoLs89
      @EpicLoLs89 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Armored Core 6 is going to revive this series with updated control layout and new playstyle. I'm very excited for future Armored Core games.

  • @richardconnor2871
    @richardconnor2871 ปีที่แล้ว +477

    I feel like Ninebreaker only existed, because they knew Last Raven was gonna be so ball-bustingly hard, that they needed to prepare their audience for it. And Ninebreaker genuinely did a good job of cultivating higher skill.

    • @judicatorhurayth1927
      @judicatorhurayth1927 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      So thatd why ninebreaker exist

    • @Azure9577
      @Azure9577 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      ​@@judicatorhurayth1927 yes it's a training camp both IRL and in universe to prepare you for last Raven

    • @Name-gx5lh
      @Name-gx5lh ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Yeah thats pretty true, I think it would have been recieved much better if they just made it a second disc for last raven.

    • @Dehalove
      @Dehalove ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not how commas work

    • @hazeltree7738
      @hazeltree7738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dehalove It is, what do you, mean.

  • @theWeirdNerdSuri
    @theWeirdNerdSuri ปีที่แล้ว +222

    One interesting note about the Armored Core for Answer mission where you fight the squad of NEXTs with Old King, the Hard mode throws a fifth NEXT at you.
    That NEXT being the one you fight in the training mode. The Lynx piloting it is Kasumi Sumika, also known as Serene Haze - the woman who acts as your operator for the game (who leaves you when you take on the the Destroy Cradle 03 mission).

    • @MikojinToyunda
      @MikojinToyunda 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Yeah, I really felt bad after the Oldking mission and hearing Sumika telling me "I didn't think you were like this..." with disappointment in her voice...
      But for my defense, I really needed money to buy some part at the time, and Oldking offered 1.000.000 where most of other mission were around 250k !! And his emblem looks great too !
      At least, Oldking succeed in one thing : he made everyone to rally against one common enemy : you...
      I did this in my first playthrough, it was really tough finishing it. I almost quit at this point, but pulled through and finally beat it after more than 100 tries for sure. The hard version was a bit faster as I had all the parts so I could build the perfect killing machine to do it (but it was still hell to fight)

    • @eis6570
      @eis6570 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      And if I remember correctly, she really can't pilot a NEXT anymore as she would die after riding one. That's why she's your operator the whole time until you go for Old King (and i don't think she also joins you if you join the league.)

    • @johnprice6271
      @johnprice6271 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Why does that sound like...
      Oh f&@$ they put an ACFA reference in 6 right under our noses, specifically the part where they die trying to stop a Monster.

    • @StardustCorvid
      @StardustCorvid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Holy fuck
      Steel Haze is a reference.
      FromSoft you cheeky motherfuckers

  • @organizedbonfire2649
    @organizedbonfire2649 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    I can't believe FromSoft legit makes your first Armored Core mission involve acting as a Pinkerton lol

    • @global-sequence
      @global-sequence ปีที่แล้ว +96

      That plus the fact that you're an independent contractor (have to pay for your bullets and damages) makes it sound like you're tasked from the start with the inevitable moral quandary of being a giant robot wielding asshole haha. At least I hope that's what the from soft team was trying to say...

    • @Ezekiel_Allium
      @Ezekiel_Allium ปีที่แล้ว +115

      Basically every fromsoft game in my experience has some pretty scathing critique of power, fascism, and/or conservatism in there somewhere. It's just that sometimes they're a lot more blunt than other times lol.
      I mean, the first main boss of Elden Ring is literally a pathetic sniveling despot obsessed with his glorified version of the past and his bloodline, heritage, and ancestry, and he's so desperate to maintain his power he's literally, physically turned himself a big disgusting monster.

    • @Funko777
      @Funko777 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      ​@@Ezekiel_Allium not to mention blind religious zealotry!
      "It's said clerics turned into the most gruesome beasts"

    • @Ezekiel_Allium
      @Ezekiel_Allium ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@Funko777 I'd say bloodborne is less a criticism of zealotry and more of the hypocrisy, abuses of power, and political manipulation of large religious organizations like the catholic church. The crimes of the church were not directly motivated by any religious belief, but were politically motivated power plays to seat themselves at the heart of society.
      I think Dark Souls series does more with the concept of zealotry to be honest.

    • @yellowcard8100
      @yellowcard8100 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Ezekiel_Allium It makes more sense in the context of Japanese culture. Always listen to elders/senpais. Don't go against the grain.

  • @popo74aa
    @popo74aa ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Something you might enjoy Vaati: I was discussing ACFA on the subreddit the other day and someone told me a pretty cool fact about Old King - in the japanese version of the Destroy Cradle mission, his humming is 'Thinker' from the Armored Core 4 soundtrack. Some stuff gets lost in translation and the vagueness inherent to old Armored Core, but his comrade Sadhana dies in that game, so perhaps that's part of why he's so uncaringly bloodthirsty.
    Also, the 5th enemy NEXT that's added in the Hard Mode of Arteria Carpals is your operator, Serena Haze, who is also a returning character from AC4 - Kasumi Sumika. Her old NEXT is the target if you enter the training mode and select a NEXT as your opponent, along with a bunch of other neat hints she's no normal operator.

    • @shadow_blaze2317
      @shadow_blaze2317 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Wasn't it also hinted or outright said that the pilot of White Glint in For Answer was the player character in 4?

    • @popo74aa
      @popo74aa ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@shadow_blaze2317 Correct! A lot of people think it's the operator from the previous game, Fiona, but it's just unclear english - she says Operator, but that's a different role from Pilot, who she's talking for. The pilot is your character from 4. Anatolia's Mercenary is their usual name in the community.
      Another interesting fact is that like Otsdarva/Thermidor, Anatolia's Mercenary survives the fight, though White Glint is destroyed. It's confirmed by some extra material in universe that was never translated into English.

    • @jrockoclock7088
      @jrockoclock7088 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also i'm pretty sure the music when you fight the NEXT in Verdict day is the same as the music in the destroy the cradle mission (and shows up in other entries in the series). Also the NEXT in Verdict day is white glint.

  • @gseba2653
    @gseba2653 ปีที่แล้ว +603

    This is the most dedication I’ve ever seen put into a video. The fact that you found every game and played them AND RECORDED ALL OF THEM is insanity.
    This is coming from someone who’s watched all of your prepare to cry series.
    I’m hoping this video pops off worldwide on the TH-cam algorithm and brings well deserved attention to the Armored Core universe. Killed it Vaati.

    • @oasisbeyond
      @oasisbeyond ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He has the money to do it but he has the passion to, if he actually beat all games, no other youtube comes close to dedication for a company and fans.

    • @oasisbeyond
      @oasisbeyond ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dual analog comtrol became popular with Halo, Cody then everyone used it cuz of their success , Xbox and ps2 has such strange controls hence why prefer emulation. Every game lacked inverted or normal controls for x and y.

    • @oasisbeyond
      @oasisbeyond ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Google Armored Core for Answer.... ooohhhhh ouch nope.

    • @OrificeHorus
      @OrificeHorus ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@oasisbeyond you are butthurt for seemingly no reason, shut up

    • @bigtrolly
      @bigtrolly ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@oasisbeyond Be wary of confusion, therefore research required ahead

  • @GearShotgun
    @GearShotgun ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Vaati began this project intending to do an armored core retrospective. Little did he know, he was also recording a Prepare to Cry video about the hell of learning to play and beating the bosses of the first several games, with himself as the subject character.

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He also had to use my AC1 strats, and walk backwards to lie about it. Typical coward. Ever wonder why I'm glorified in the game, and vAAti is NosAAc? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He stole from me, he's a scumbag. Ask him who NosAAc is.

    • @Grottogoob
      @Grottogoob หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The_Vesperas You actually have the worst TH-cam channel of all time. Congratulations!

  • @chraliras
    @chraliras ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I like how by the time you get to For Answer, you've basically become the impossible -to-kill version of 9-ball from the first generation.

  • @SuperStingray
    @SuperStingray ปีที่แล้ว +567

    Armored Core really captures the best of FromSoftware's raw, unfiltered design ethos- it makes no promises to be easy, or even to be fun at every turn, but it makes you the master of your own experience- you own all of your victories and defeats. You won't just remember beating the challenges, but you'll remember exactly how you did it. It may not have the ambition or polish of, say, Elden Ring, but what other franchise would have you to return to a PREQUEL to farm just to beat the first mission?

    • @Dinoenthusiastguy
      @Dinoenthusiastguy ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Tbf Elden Ring was emboldened by the flame of ambition

    • @OGR-4394
      @OGR-4394 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I literally only remember frustration, games fell flat

    • @Beanpolr
      @Beanpolr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would say it was more ambitious than Elden Ring. The core systems and gameplay of Elden Ring were already created and tested over the course of multiple other games. There was already a community willing to accept the game with open arms the moment it was announced. Armored core however was the first of its kind, there was no way for from to know whether people would love or hate it, and everything they did in the first game was being done for the first time.

    • @BloodyArchangelus
      @BloodyArchangelus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Beanpolr i am sorry, but mechwarrior existed. as gundam\macross series. pls stop creating a false image of miracle from nowhere.

    • @Beanpolr
      @Beanpolr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BloodyArchangelus I didn't say it was the first mech combat game. It was however the first of its type, and games like MechWarrior or various Gundam installments are not like armored core gameplay wise.

  • @Gigaros
    @Gigaros ปีที่แล้ว +366

    I was 11 when I first played Armored Core and I am genuinely tearing up. Not only did you do the deep research into the secrets but you experienced the excruciating painful controls first hand. That's true dedication and deserving of the title Nine Breaker!

    • @mastergwaha
      @mastergwaha ปีที่แล้ว +10

      it was part of the fun playing multiplayer split screen! its all we had in 1997!! we always played the nigh city map

    • @DiamondTear
      @DiamondTear ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mastergwaha yeah, the city map was the one to play in multiplayer. This video made me wonder if my friend didn't want to play AC because of the controls and not just because I was more experienced :P

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, me and Walt are nineballs, vAAti walked backwards like a coward, hense the backwards theme of AC6.

    • @Karthik-pn2yj
      @Karthik-pn2yj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ball breaker

  • @thom12
    @thom12 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    This is why Vaati is the GOAT. To make sure he would fully understand the next fromSoft game he went back and not only played a full series of games but made sure he understood what they were going for. Keep doing you friend

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, he's a scumbag, this entire game (AC6) mocks him. Why do you think he hasn't done a video on Vesperas... or NosAAc... he's a FRAUD. I'm the FREUD.

  • @bazookaace
    @bazookaace ปีที่แล้ว +331

    Vaati shows us here that he's not just recognizable in the From Soft community, but also one of the most dedicated.

  • @bradwig
    @bradwig ปีที่แล้ว +360

    If you told me ten years ago we'd get armored core content on TH-cam that was this good I'd have laughed. Love that you went all in to learn about my favorite series

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Honestly, mate. Between this, Above Average Gaming and Writing On Games, I'm loving this new wave of attention. All we need now is Noah Gervais and I'll be set for life

    • @stevenboelke6661
      @stevenboelke6661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was barely anything at the time and now the community has new life! I never thought so many would go back and play these games.

    • @vitalvisionary
      @vitalvisionary ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The last time I played an Armored Core game was before TH-cam existed... Looking forward to getting back in the garage.

    • @StellariumSound
      @StellariumSound ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah. "Armored Core gamers watching their series take the backburner" is an understatement. Most of us thought it was over.

    • @malignsaint7966
      @malignsaint7966 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StellariumSound Amen to that. I thought it was just over and from soft was done with it because the souls like games were making them so much money. Not blaming them for working on good games and making good money with them but i have missed a good AC game. Heck I still hear AC and think armored core and not assassin creed.

  • @aboveaveragegaming6120
    @aboveaveragegaming6120 ปีที่แล้ว +474

    Armored core is actually something special. I think were it thrives vs dark souls is its customization element. This dude vaati did a pretty good job explaining it which blows my mind... Ill see you all in AC6!

    • @RyukagiRen
      @RyukagiRen ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Damn, you even here

    • @Kazuhira2249
      @Kazuhira2249 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      i used to spend more time testing builds and weapons just customizing my AC than actually playing the games

    • @jds0798
      @jds0798 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@Kazuhira I feel you

    • @KABLAMMATS
      @KABLAMMATS ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Kazuhira2249 customize AC in 1 hour, just for a mission that end in 5 minutes

    • @bootysalad
      @bootysalad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See u there boyo

  • @XxChronOblivionxX
    @XxChronOblivionxX ปีที่แล้ว +137

    The extra effort for the authentic experience really elevates this, gives you insight to this series' legacy, bravo. Easy for people to underestimate the insights you gain access to when you do stuff like this, I'm reminded of Tim Rogers insistence on somehow beating Tokimeki Memorial's true route without using any guides, and it leads him directly to the central thesis of his entire video.

    • @Zzz-j2f
      @Zzz-j2f ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tim is the g.o.a.t. Love that gosh darn guy.

  • @AmeshaSpentaArmaiti
    @AmeshaSpentaArmaiti ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Kota Hoshino is From Software's audio guy, he was the lead sound designer in the souls games and most other things they put out. they've gone far too long without his music, but the PS2 and 3 eras are blessed with some of the best music in video games because of him.

    • @BloodyArchangelus
      @BloodyArchangelus ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He created yuka kitamura. why bother. when your prodigy is making one of the best music in Industry.

    • @lesslighter
      @lesslighter ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@BloodyArchangelus Yuka Kitamura joined FromSoft before Demon Souls but she's classically trained as oppsed to Kota Hoshino's play by ear, that means at this point FreQuency has about 3 composers with Saitoh being with From Soft nearly since its inception probably when they were still a software company

    • @serraramayfield9230
      @serraramayfield9230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lesslighterHoshino is back for AC6

    • @sickrandy2946
      @sickrandy2946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BloodyArchangelusKota Hoshino is at his best when he's doing weird glitchy break-beat / electronic stuff like in the old AC games. Idk anyone else who does it quite like he does.

  • @AlexanderFable
    @AlexanderFable ปีที่แล้ว +106

    The scale of this video as a creative project is mind-boggling. Thank you for this beautiful, beautiful work of art.

  • @SonbladeX
    @SonbladeX ปีที่แล้ว +433

    My favorite part of that Nine-Ball fight in the original game that you actually didn't see is that there are TWO Nine-Balls. After you escape into the ceiling and into the tunnel, there's just another one chilling and waiting for you. Check the radar during those clips like at 14:09 ; Vaati actually gets caught on the second Nine-Ball while flying backwards!

    • @patrikmecar1537
      @patrikmecar1537 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      crazy fr

    • @Apple_Beshy
      @Apple_Beshy ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Did anyone beat Nineballs in AC 1 legitimately? And with original controller bind?

    • @Apple_Beshy
      @Apple_Beshy ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah he didn't see it HAHAHAH luckily he didn't die

    • @prestonrobinson4424
      @prestonrobinson4424 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I have, but I was human plus with moo light and mgs. A lot of trial and error

    • @nisnast
      @nisnast ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@Apple_Beshy nope.
      the thing with these games is, the devs aren't afraid of throwing bullshit at you, so you shouldn't be afraid to throw bullshit at the game, what I did in AC 1 was to go into the hole, and then wait there for Nineball with my shoulder mounted plasma cannon, once he got in, five seconds of concentrated firepower, and then he was dead.

  • @Tenchigumi
    @Tenchigumi ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It's worth noting that in the final mission of AC4A's Hard Mode Genocide route, the fifth AC who comes to stop you is Kasumi Sumika, aka Serene Haze, aka your Operator. It's gut-wrenchingly tragic how your mentor-waifu who was by your side from the beginning, supporting you as you grew from a rookie into a precision machine of war, is now forced to kill you to prevent further human genocide.
    It makes me so sad that I think I need some fresh Ayre... after choking on all the genocidal smoke... from the Fires of Raven...

  • @terpy663
    @terpy663 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Seeing how Miyazaki influenced the speed of combat in armored core I no longer wonder where the incredible innovations that made souls combat into bloodborne come from.

  • @Rohtix
    @Rohtix ปีที่แล้ว +184

    I'll admit, Vulture was a really creative way to kill Daemon. Awesome work!

    • @atkascha
      @atkascha ปีที่แล้ว +25

      100%
      the "vulture build" with a very apt name, is almost a "right of passage" in the older AC games. My build in AC2 was pure flight with vertical missiles (that fire up and rain down) with a sniper rifle. No enemy could get me as I was at max altitude.
      AC4+ (and probably AC6) is when the game turned into Formula 1. Not only do you need to have the right build but true piloting skills came into play.

  • @INF1NIT3D00M
    @INF1NIT3D00M ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Bro the evil cackling that came over me as you got to the *fourth* Nine-Ball fight with like 600 AP is indescribable. I remember struggling SO HARD in the AC games back in the days before even those massive ASCII Text-wall guides on GameFAQs. It's such a sadistic glee to see someone walk into these games blind in 2023 and experience the games I developed Stockholm Syndrome with back in my youth. I can't put into words how excited I am for this series to resurface

  • @poke548
    @poke548 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Your discussions on about learning the intricacies of the Armored Core building system felt good to hear from a newbie. Congratulations, Vaati. You're finding out a big part of why people absolutely adore the mech game genre.

  • @Akira-kd6us
    @Akira-kd6us ปีที่แล้ว +67

    50:00 this scene just breaks my heart, this kind of presentation is so powerful. Idk what it is, like Slam Dunk's silent victory in the manga's last chapter, it just fills you with immense emotions and there are no dramatic dialogues needed to convey the story and what the characters are feeling. It just presents itself silently(obviously, the ending in Nexus isn't completely silent but I hope I conveyed my point), idk why, but these kinds of endings are the ones that stick out the most for me.
    Great video Vaati, I enjoyed it through and through. I'll definitely get into AC once I finish my DS challenge run.

    • @mskdxnightmare
      @mskdxnightmare ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Very true . Reminded me of the final halo reach mission. Inevitable but fantastic story conclusion wise

  • @Tortle-Man
    @Tortle-Man ปีที่แล้ว +119

    The genuine terror I felt when you reached Nineball Seraph could be felt through the screen. Truly he is one to be feared, and he keeps coming BACK! They better add him to armored core 6.

    • @KaitoTheRamenBandit
      @KaitoTheRamenBandit ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I haven't played AC myself, but I've been meme'ing in my head in hopes that Nine Ball comes back in AC6 as well.

    • @ManiaMac1613
      @ManiaMac1613 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've never played an AC game and I'm already afraid of Nineball Seraph. He'll probably be lurking in some long-forgotten cave waiting to kick my ass.

    • @MadDragonify
      @MadDragonify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He even appeared in a different franchise to kick my ass lmao

    • @Barnesofthenorth
      @Barnesofthenorth ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly it'd be great to have him as a first boss you're meant to lose to like other games From have done. It'd allow them to move onto new enemies and designs, while showing love for the older games.

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This dude even follows you to another game franchise entirely! He shows up in Another Century's Episode R, theme song and all!

  • @Zamu273
    @Zamu273 ปีที่แล้ว +649

    Dark souls is truly the armoured core of dark souls

    • @ethanwagner
      @ethanwagner ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Armoured Core is the Dark Souls of FromSoft’s catalog

    • @wanderingbufoon
      @wanderingbufoon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      dark fantasy*

    • @tz5116
      @tz5116 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      It really makes you feel like you are the core of the armoured core of dark souls.

    • @AccursedHawk
      @AccursedHawk ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What an unoriginal and cringe comment

    • @cheese1678989
      @cheese1678989 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my god shut up

  • @thebaddestguy
    @thebaddestguy ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I replayed several of these before AC6 as well and I learned a few things that made the earlier games easier: Just remap camera controls (looking up and down, and turning left and right, also move strafing to dpad) to X Square O Triangle, and everything else to shoulders, as a sort of pseudo-dual stick setup. For AC2, several enemies are bioweapons which can't be locked on by standard targeting including the final boss but there are head pieces that let you lock on to them, so you can just buy one and swap to it when you know it's a bioweapon mission.

  • @vollzeit2853
    @vollzeit2853 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    this is dedication
    I had no intrest in Armored Core prior, but I was hooked through the whole video and I am truly impressed. I don't think I've seen someone deliver the feeling of enjoyment and admiration, I had chills without having any nostalgia connected to it. great job

    • @saintallison
      @saintallison ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I feel the same! I was indifferent about AC6 but now I'm actually pretty excited :D

    • @erroldtumaque3430
      @erroldtumaque3430 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Id also recommend Writing On Games video on the Armored Core games

    • @danteizquierdo461
      @danteizquierdo461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely agree 👍👍👍

    • @FreshLyte
      @FreshLyte ปีที่แล้ว

      "I had chills" loll lmao even.

  • @r4ymac329
    @r4ymac329 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The nostalgia this video gave me is beyond what I ever I thought I wanted and desperately needed! Reliving and reminiscing all those memories and dedication and the agonizing defeats and overwhelming victories to every AC game that ever came out, all I can say is thank you Vaati. This is exactly what we needed until AC6 comes out! Loved and cherish every min of this! Again thank you for this nostalgic masterpiece of an experience!

  • @KatcriEN
    @KatcriEN ปีที่แล้ว +56

    The mission with Oldking in AC4A is messed up, but the lyrics to the song that plays really hammers your loss of any humanity whatsoever home. "Oh, I'm scary. So, I'm scary. All that I see. Now I'm scary." Actual masterpiece.

  • @TheGuidingMoonlight
    @TheGuidingMoonlight ปีที่แล้ว +27

    AC6 is so fantastic, after beating Balteus I already started looking into getting the other games but all the copies are priced through the roof, which sucks considering I already have the OG hardware. Still love seeing these old games making a monsterous comeback with nothing but fire

    • @srmelancia3523
      @srmelancia3523 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe u could download a rom and burn it onto a cd

  • @ems22playbook
    @ems22playbook ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Vaati needs a Award and a gold medal for this marathon

  • @rxninja
    @rxninja ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Thank you for this video. Armored Core is probably the single strongest influence on why I'm now a game designer. You articulate so clearly what's great about various parts of the series over time. When you hit roadblocks and got frustrated, those were my roadblocks and frustrations, too. It was such a joy seeing your progression, too.
    Welcome to the Nest.

  • @FauxRegard
    @FauxRegard ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Resident Armored Core nerd that grew up playing the series starting in 1999. Special note about AC2:
    - Disorder Units are actually bio weapons so you can't lock onto them unless you use a radar and/or head part with a bio scanner.
    - There was also a "secret" arena opponent that you missed who enters only after you kill Ares. Let's just say that he makes Ares look like a toddler fumbling around with toys.
    - I don't recall seeing if you mentioned it but Human+ is a MASSIVE, hidden option for serious and permanent upgrades that the game requires you to die repeatedly for until you accrue a negative balance of -50,000. It never tells you about this, you can only do it a maximum of 7 times, and it also stops with AC2:AA (3 has something similar but it's gotten with totally different methods. Later entries remove it completely). Also, you can ONLY use it in AA if you first unlock it in AC2 and then transfer your save. Super simple, right? 🙃
    All that said, I want to also give a special shoutout to Zinaida in Last Raven. To this day there hasn't been a single video game boss that made me struggle as much as her. Not Malenia, not Isshin, not Nineball. Ultimate Zinaida had me stuck for 2 weeks and I may need therapy.
    Anyway, I THOROUGHLY enjoyed this. I'm so happy to see other people discover AC because there's truly nothing else like it.

    • @CybersteelEx
      @CybersteelEx ปีที่แล้ว +8

      op intensify?

    • @procow2274
      @procow2274 ปีที่แล้ว

      To clarify the bio sensor on the radar detects them you need one on your head to lock on.
      ( Head radars can also have bio sensors which is separate from the bio sensor stat that lets you lock on.

    • @procow2274
      @procow2274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To clarify the bio sensor on the radar detects them you need one on your head to lock on.
      ( Head radars can also have bio sensors which is separate from the bio sensor stat that lets you lock on.

    • @FauxRegard
      @FauxRegard ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CybersteelEx op-I is a part that can only be gotten after you beat the game so it's not quite the same as H+

  • @otsdarvafoxxfyre
    @otsdarvafoxxfyre ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One of the things i loved the most about the earlier eras of armored core was an old gaming magazine i used to get, called Tips'n'Tricks usually covering new cheat codes and walk-throughs of recently released games. Armored Core got to a point where than magazine had a dedicated AC Builds section dedicated entirely to reader submitted builds, strategies and color schemes. I even submitted one for my tetrapod build i used in one of the games.

  • @rawrpopsicles
    @rawrpopsicles ปีที่แล้ว +54

    it’s crazy that there are so many of these games and I have NEVER heard of the series at all. thanks for introducing me to this really interesting series!

    • @luichinplaystation610
      @luichinplaystation610 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You never cared

    • @rawrpopsicles
      @rawrpopsicles ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@luichinplaystation610 ?

    • @divyakrishna
      @divyakrishna ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@rawrpopsicles ignore folks like him lmao AC was super niche and super difficult to get into, glad you'll get to experience it with AC6 which should be the best entry for newcomers ^_^ welcome to the community!

  • @A-0602
    @A-0602 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    That was an amazing overview. As a longtime armored core fan - I couldn't have said better myself. I'm still in love with these games all these years later.

    • @VaatiVidya
      @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Thank you! I've stumbled upon a bit of your content, great stuff.

    • @A-0602
      @A-0602 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@VaatiVidya Ahh man, that's a welcome surprise. Thanks.

  • @Blandy8521
    @Blandy8521 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    The VA for Old King is amazing you can tell he's revelling in the death

    • @BTM8109
      @BTM8109 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That was some disturbing sh*t

    • @ChillyReaper
      @ChillyReaper ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He is also humming a song as you're destroying the cradles, and sounding happy about it too.

    • @sentientmustache8360
      @sentientmustache8360 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      For real, he says “100.000.000” as if he just won 100.000.000 dollars

    • @notatallheng
      @notatallheng ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I didn't play this route in 4A and now I can only imagine Old King as the Count from Sesame Street.

    • @lesslighter
      @lesslighter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ChillyReaper what people don't know what he's humming to is to the tune of Thinker from AC4 but hasnt memorized the lyrics (as par of the course) not sure why but thats the JP audio for the mission essentially

  • @noBody-ue6cs
    @noBody-ue6cs ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I didn’t realize actual lore would play into why the ACs are so different from NEXTs and that you would play a game where you fought one while piloting something inferior to it. That’s really cool and makes me more open to getting use to how much the controls can change with each game.

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AC6lore involves mocking vAAti, he can't give you all the info, Hi, I'm the guy he stole off of, the original Vesperas... why do you think I'm all over the place in this game?

  • @StegDarkhorse
    @StegDarkhorse ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Massive props on completing these games, Vaati. You're indeed a true Raven.

  • @ArmoredGriffon
    @ArmoredGriffon ปีที่แล้ว +33

    As someone who has been a longtime AC fan starting with 2 back in high school, I'm upset that I can only "Like" this video one time. Going and showing the rest of our FROM family just what the series is all about, you've made an astounding video.

  • @Kazuhira2249
    @Kazuhira2249 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    the karasawa rifle is pretty much the claymore equivalent of ac games, its on every game, its always a solid choice if you are unsure to what to use

  • @TheBestScreekey
    @TheBestScreekey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    After careful consideration, I have decided to do the same Vaati. Experiencing the games before my time, relive memories and the struggles I had with this franchise as a kid in the early 2000s.

  • @Azriel12399
    @Azriel12399 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Really glad to hear that my favorites from the series are shared by you.
    I've recently heard people say that the super fast pace of AC4's game play wasn't received very well. That's completely shocking to me. For me, it was pretty much what I always wanted form the AC games. The change in tone from the older games was refreshing and honestly seemed more realistic in a lot of ways.
    Quick boosting felt so good, and the Primal Armor system was a great way to allow players to take a hit or two without it being overly punishing. It also really made it feel like you were actually an elite pilot, in an extremely advanced and rare machine. I love the older games, but getting destroyed by a protesting factory worker who welded an AK47 onto his forklift... that just doesn't seem right.

    • @ryangrow1
      @ryangrow1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was one of those who was not a fan of AC 4

    • @luichinplaystation610
      @luichinplaystation610 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That protester will never get another lucky shot

  • @DarkLitUniverse
    @DarkLitUniverse ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Obligatory mention that you can fully remap the controller in all the games with the old-style controls in their respective options menu, so you don't have to live with using the shoulders to look up, use the face buttons instead.

    • @SahiPie
      @SahiPie ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean, he knew that, he played with default controls on purpose.

  • @Vikaryous21
    @Vikaryous21 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Master of Arena was my childhood, I'm overjoyed to see folks revisiting these games, they absolutely deserve it

  • @TheMuffinMan15
    @TheMuffinMan15 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    1:01:00 This is my favorite part of AC6. I've gotten so ingrossed into the role playing of the game with my specialized mechs and my rivalries with other pilots in the story.

  • @goingforgold_8536
    @goingforgold_8536 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Hey Vaati, long time watcher, very infrequent commenter. Just wanted to say that your delivery and style are simply wonderful. You bring an atmosphere of refinement and class to games that the devs at From Software really aim for. I definitely am saving up for the right time to pickup Soularts from you to help support the artists and channel. :)
    Also, gotta respect the classic tagline of any From Software game at 37:45, you know the one 1 😘

  • @ericmerrill9808
    @ericmerrill9808 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Hey vaati. I’m glad you’re feeling better after that Covid. As someone who has no time to play even one of these, you’ve helped me really appreciate how far this series has come and some of its amazing mechanics. I’m looking forward to trying Armored Core 6 when it comes out. Thank you so much for all your hard work.

  • @OugiEin
    @OugiEin ปีที่แล้ว +150

    As an armored core veteran and a true raven. I can say that this man spent thousands of dollars to give us one of the most honest and wholesome and true reviews for our community. And I for one can say as I am not as strong as him to have that many hours in the series as a whole. Do not gatekeep, welcome the new community and if there is PVP, teach them firmly.

    • @Nammjahtan
      @Nammjahtan ปีที่แล้ว +41

      On the contrary I think we should gatekeep... and I think we should shove as many people through that gate as possible. Maybe setup a concession stand next to the gate and sell food and drinks.

    • @OugiEin
      @OugiEin ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Nammjahtan You had me in the first half not going to lie

    • @RezaQin
      @RezaQin ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Gatekeeping is not a bad thing.

    • @luichinplaystation610
      @luichinplaystation610 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You, true Raven, more that anyone knows that you have to gatekeep in some form or the game will suffer

    • @JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski
      @JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ”a true raven"? relax dude, you played some videogames. so did I. that doesn't confer a distinguished title upon either of us.

  • @thefiresworddragon927
    @thefiresworddragon927 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Fun fact, Vaati, someone in the comments of a video played AC Nexus, got to the Nine Ball fight, and had never heard of why Nine Ball was feared and infamous for, and still felt an unknown dread when Nine Ball showed up.

    • @webdriver_torso118
      @webdriver_torso118 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Simply put, Nine Balls target was verified, he commenced his hostilities and the guy knew

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, if you used me guide, like vAAti did and snubbed me, you wouldn't have trouble... vAAti is a theif, and SCUM. Look at NosAAc, I wonder WHY he hasn't done an adequate lore video yet.

  • @acceptablecasualty5319
    @acceptablecasualty5319 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Shoutout to Kota Hoshino for carrying the Presentation of the entire late series on his self-taught back. Incredible Music and Sound Design.

    • @anwarfraser6157
      @anwarfraser6157 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Up until about Nexus it was mostly Tsukasa Saitoh not Kota. Most of the memorable shit was definitely him.

    • @Ring_student_yin_sang
      @Ring_student_yin_sang ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@anwarfraser6157yeah and frequency is still making some music, I like this one called melody and something, your should check out

    • @anwarfraser6157
      @anwarfraser6157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ring_student_yin_sang with all due respect im not a fan of most things Frequency or Kota. IMO the worst songs in 3rd gen were all Kota (Milk for example) V and Verdict day soundtrack to me was unlistenable. I viewed all their remixes as offbeat, off tone abominations of the originals. TBH I feel like the composers did better when they were separate. I did like Dirty Worker tho. Im still crossing my fingers and eagerly waiting for the next soundtrack regardless.

    • @Ring_student_yin_sang
      @Ring_student_yin_sang ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anwarfraser6157 ye but still he must be much better now

    • @BloodyArchangelus
      @BloodyArchangelus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anwarfraser6157 lol what. V and VD soundtrack are the best in the series.

  • @brosty_Star
    @brosty_Star ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is literally one of the greatest videos on YT, easily this is going to be (for a lot of people) one of those "comfort videos".

    • @MrDibara
      @MrDibara ปีที่แล้ว

      It was definitelly mine this morning. :')
      Something cozy to keep me warm in this suddenly cold day. (São Paulo, Brazil)

  • @ethanwagner
    @ethanwagner ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Vaati went god mode in the most crucial way. I have no idea what these games were and I don’t have time to play them but I’m sure as hell playing the new one so these vids feel essential to such a wild franchise. Shoutout the hard work!💜

    • @EdH447
      @EdH447 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed, this man is a legend

  • @munsterotaku3058
    @munsterotaku3058 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love so much passionate video like this doing a TRUE retrospective of old game license.
    I watch it on two parts and it was a pleasure to watch. Calm voice and passionate, good flow. I got no trouble to understand you as non native speaker.
    Keep going :D

  • @eherden2169
    @eherden2169 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    VaatiVidya: Thank God I dont have to fight Nine Ball again.
    Veteran AC players: (evilly grin)
    Thank you for taking the AC journey. I appreciate it and am filled with nostalgia after this documentary of a video.

    • @ArnoldCore
      @ArnoldCore ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "I finally beat the 2 nineballs" *maniacal laughing intensifies*

  • @sosaysjay
    @sosaysjay ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Very cool to see how much your playstyle changed from the first game down through all the PS2 titles. Great stuff!

  • @ZayaRN
    @ZayaRN ปีที่แล้ว +75

    An incredible amount of work went into this. Well done sir. Well done.

  • @ianmaddox5121
    @ianmaddox5121 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Anyone else here like me, who didn't really notice this video when it first came out, but now that you've played AC6, you can't stop consuming everything related to it and feel stupid for sleeping on this franchise all these years?

    • @HunterForHire422
      @HunterForHire422 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. Played almost all of them now. Only ones I didn't is formula front and 5. I tried but didn't finish last raven or nexus cause I think they honestly aren't fun at all.
      Playing verdict day now which is the last game I wanna finish

  • @alexbaker4051
    @alexbaker4051 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In AC2, when you're talking about how your AC can be fundamentally unable to do certain things in missions like fly up a tall vertical corridor:
    There's a hidden control that you can activate by pressing basically all of your controller buttons at the same time, Limiter Release. You get infinite energy for like 10 seconds, and then you can't use energy for a long period of time afterward. This lets you cross gaps and fly up vertical corridors that you couldn't normally.
    This doesn't excuse the underlying design problem, but they did realize it was a problem and put an answer in the game, it's just never explained anywhere.
    It can also be used in combat if you're either really good at the game or insane, because if you don't kill the enemy in that glorious 10 seconds you're just dead.

    • @VaatiVidya
      @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fascinating! It might have been a problem in that level though..as the vertical corridor was followed by more tunnels and more enemies, and there was an escape timer pressure as well.
      But very interesting that this mechanic exists

  • @Kazuhira2249
    @Kazuhira2249 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    i can already see nine ball clawing out of hell just to torment vaati

  • @h0gheadS
    @h0gheadS ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nine Breaker is actually a great entry point. All the training missions, all the parts unlocked from the get go, plus climbing through the arena gives you a good grip on what the games are like.

  • @andrewmcgrane1097
    @andrewmcgrane1097 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Just here to thank the creator of this video in a message that will be lost to time. Armored Core 1 came out when I was 10 on PS1 and I rented it from Chartbusters a few times but I could never beat it. When you beat that 9 Ball at the end a second one spawns. I never considered that you could go past him and complete the game. My mind is blown. Also thank you for agreeing with me on Armored Core for answer. You reminded me of those good days what seems like so long ago beating the game 3 times to get the secret ending. I only ever played 1, 3, For Answer and 5 but I am so hyped for 6. Feels weird being so excited as a near 40 year old person for a game that I got into when I was 10 years old.. So much has changed but I will take some time off work this August 25th to do something important and just for me. I will play with my damn robots once more.

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He used my strat and edited the video, he's a scumbag, this why he's mocked in AC6 (NosAAc amoung many) and I'm over glorified.

  • @NotSoMax
    @NotSoMax ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This video gave me so much joy and made me want to replay the older AC games I didn’t play. I remember tinkering and testing my ACs for hours, thinking I came up with the perfect killing machine just to get completely walloped because I hadn’t considered something super obvious.

    • @The_Vesperas
      @The_Vesperas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Be sure to use my FAQ on AC1, but give me credit, don't be a scum sucking coward like vAAti/NosAAc.

  • @theyoungbrain1469
    @theyoungbrain1469 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    when I first heard about Elden Ring, Vaati was my go to guy for what to expect and how to make sense of it all. Now, here i am excited for Armored Core and Vaati is right here giving me the full run down of what I’m getting into again. Thanks for everything and i look forward to the content you’ll be providing this next game

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    6:20 Karasawa is basically the counterpart to the Moonlight

    • @Milenos
      @Milenos ปีที่แล้ว

      The L-99 Moonlight is said weapon, Karasawa is a reference to the producer and made it powerful and available is most game for that.

  • @jonreinert6502
    @jonreinert6502 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally finished this. Well done, Raven.
    Currently playing AC6, and I really have to say, wow.... my first AC game and I'm having the most fun I've had in years. Gameplay is phenomenal, and I don't care what people say, The story is incredible. Fromsoft cannot disappoint.
    Just finished the 2nd to last mission in chapter 5 (if you know, you know) and I've seriously never been so happy and so sad in the span of one mission before. Went from cheering outloud at my TV, to holding back tears at the end of the mission after a challenging yet very exciting boss fight.
    Well done, FromSoftware

  • @Caluben
    @Caluben ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To those that don't know, NineBall and its theme (that Vaati played every time it was on screen) is the Sephiroth/One-Winged Angel of Armored Core.

  • @fuzzy8593
    @fuzzy8593 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The amount of time, dedication, and money that went into this venture is mad. Great work man. It is cool to see how fast your playing and understanding progressed. Very well done.

  • @evelineac4637
    @evelineac4637 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I want to thank you so much for your amazing channel! I started this year with my first FS game Elden Ring and started watching your lore videos. I now play Bloodborne and it is truly amazing. So with my new obsession with FS this video could not make me any happier. Keep up the amazing work! :D

    • @VaatiVidya
      @VaatiVidya  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you! I love learning that I've allowed people to engage more deeply with the games. I hope you enjoy the rest of From Software's titles - we all wish we could experience them for the first time again.

  • @111leo001
    @111leo001 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The joke is I played chrome hounds back in 2006, and have been searching ever since for a mech game with really great build customisation options. Thank-you Vaati, for your continued excellence

  • @pseudonympending
    @pseudonympending ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I want you to do lore for the different timelines so bad

  • @lionranger6732
    @lionranger6732 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Listening to the OST of newer Armored Core, Kota Hoshino's work and freQuency being mentioned put such a smile on my face. That music alone changed my life and I still love hearing it weekly as a motivational boost. Thank you for mentioning it so other people new to this series can enjoy something that kept me going for years.

  • @sXeAndriex
    @sXeAndriex ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love watching through these and seeing how Armored Core adapted to the evolution of the mecha genre as a whole. For Answer especially has The Closed Plan mirroring Char's Counterattack.

  • @coreyjameshaims449
    @coreyjameshaims449 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    As mech control goes, I always found the general movement from the Zone of the Ender's series was incredible...
    Not that we're going to get another one of those anytime soon 😂

    • @dashiellruiz6996
      @dashiellruiz6996 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Feel like zone of the enders spoiled me. My expectations for robot movement comes from that game. N there hasnt been any that felt the same. Atleast to my knowledge