Dude use the hunter to play this weeks trial of iyo. You can blow through it in an average of 4 minutes and you get shit tons of legendaries every time you do it
Ronin generally has better sources of healing so forbidden medicine is kind of a wasted legend slot. Unless you're going for a full damage build on Ronin then forbidden medicine will make up the heals. Else, there are better legends the ronin can take advantage of like my personal fav, spirit kunai
Masamune for life! The reason I like it is because it doubles basically any kind of damage, be it stealth, counterattack or regular melee, and also doubles stagger damage too as a result. Plus most of the harshest enemies are spear types so you can always easily parry them.
Something I only learned recently despite playing since launch is that you can only perform a perfect dodge when you have your sword drawn. No idea why. At least in my experience that’s how it appears to be. Dodging around with the sword sheathed and nothing, but as soon as the sword comes out, it suddenly becomes possible
@@CidolofasOrlandu I don't think so? Haven't tested personally but it doesn't feel as consistent as perfect parry with the +12%. Plus the thing says clearly "perfect PARRY"so...
I’ve been using master’s katana on my samurai since I unlocked it. I love not having to deal with any bullshit and just blowing through everybody with it. I can understand why some people would rather use another legendary instead tho. It seems underwhelming at first glance.
@@vs_richy8516 And all stances work not only against the enemies they are made against, moon stance if you use strong attack deals damage through the block, water stance is just funny, since you can kick enemies and etc
Been using Master's katana since the time I unlocked it on my Samurai. Paired it with burning blade, stagger damage and perfect parry window. Love it to death, gets me through almost everything but I will have to change one of the percentage perks
Not sure if people knows this but the magma bomb has a 6-7 second smoke only if you’re not playing smoke bomb with it. With the smoke bomb it lasts up to 18-20 seconds.
I would put Magma bomb on Bag cuz not only it's a secondary smoke but also damages enemies. Great for assassins who can't one shot certain enemies but with that initial explotion, it will be enough for one shots.
Even though I don’t agree with your placement of Master’s Katana, I’m super happy to see your placement of Heavenly Rebuke! I use it for my Ronin alongside Master’s Katana and honestly it seems to compliment him well. Great video!
Magma bomb is pretty good imo I think it’s good for both assassin and hunter so you can basically crowd control anything but I feel like it’ll be more useful for hunter due to it creating another smoke so you can basically get those free shots in good tier list tho 👍
"if the enemy is staggered by the poison damage, this does not count (to trigger the Demon Cutter's ability)" Actually it does work with any poison (blowgun, poison blade, Toxic Vanish). It also works with Yoshitsune's Hand; additionally, if you're getting a stagger with the aoe from Toxic Vanish both katana can affect multiple targets. This also works when paired with Spirit Kunai that has Super Massive (or a charm with Impactful Throws); enemies will go flying then be bent down, ready to receive critical hits. however, it only works on "small" stature enemies, it does not work on large regular enemies, animals or large oni.
@@GooshyG neither katana demands that it be the source of the stagger, if a stagger occurs while the katana is equipped the effect can proc. its a low proc % but it absolutely does happen from poison blade, blowgun poison and toxic vanish. its not enough to merely poison the enemy, they must fully lose their entire stagger meter and begin the stagger animation where they stumble around, THEN it can proc.
I feel they need to seriously buff all of the charms and could buff most of the legendries as they are. What's the point in having 30 legendries when people only use five of them? It would add some nice variety. Everyone already knows the best metas, we need to challenge that.
Another chapter in the Gospel of Gooshy. Been eagerly awaiting this to drop and its finally here, i cant wait to take advantage of the insights and modify various class builds. Thanks you for taking the time and effort to compile all this information. I bow before you oh Great One.
Ever since playing Assassin, magma bomb with lucky and increased radius was my go to smokescreen. Tho i just hope they add another perk for assassin and ronin called Poison master or a charm that creates chain lightning kills similar to the rebuke charm but for assassin. Idk just an idea but i love how you put them in tier list. Good job man.
Honestly, sugaru's sight is really good for filling up your ulti bar. So if you are playing survival and there are a lot of ammo refill, you wont even need the munitions or scavanger perk. And, it doesnt give you pain for aiming at some weird enemy that move back and forth every second
Masamune’s edge may not prock often as one would like, but when it does, and you have a damage build… omg Masamune’s edge: melee damage, oni damage, water stance, stone stance + range: bow with whatever + samurai charm: melee damage, explosive blade radius (or oni damage), blessed strikes, health increase + kunai: melee damage, whatever else + healing gourd: injured resolve gain, cooldown on kill, strong brew, sudden resolve + explosive blade + 25% melee damage + Block arrows (or resolve) + 5 hit ultimate = Tank samurai, hack oni to pieces I got 274 kills on nightmare with 3 teammates lol
I want to stand up for the demon seeds! Onis get destroyed when they walk into them. I use deep bags and fires up then go ham with the katana when they enter. It makes me a Happy Jin at least lol
Demon seeds are unreal on a Fire Ronin . They can melt waves in nightmare @ 120 ki w/deep bags and Fired up. +50% ghost weapon damage technique and fire master with tons of fire dmg. They are kind of a niche thing tho.
I think they need to have another mode for survival like nightmare but no arrows or floating ball. Gold is too easy and nightmare, well it’s too long of a week to keep playing the same map over and over. Plus with nightmare, too many be quitting.
Dunno when exactly they added Platinum, but hey that’s a thing! And exactly how you describe, it’s basically like a nightmare with no nightmare de buffs and no arrows or floating balls lol. And 110 gear as a reward
I'd put the Mist of Yagata in D tier and move Touch of Heaven up. Touch of Heaven was my go to heal (with blast radius) it was a huge amount very quickly and found it useful in the raids I could throw it at a wall (exit to the chest rooms) and top everyone back up, or at low hp throw it at a brute opening them up to circle+square spam while giving me 50+ hp. As a stealth assassin (wanting the bonus from blowgun) I only unequipped ToH once I got Magma Bomb. Were Yagata has a slow heal and you need to stay still to benefit. I think I used it once and never equipped it again (combat regeneration was more effective)
I put the weightless spirit at the top. It’s basically a sniper rifle as a bow. I tried the skipping stone but i did not like it. The draw speed was really long and it is really hard to hit targets at long range with this. I have it on every character. Although I think I would like it more if I could get the animation cancels down. Also, restorative rhythm is also my favorite charm. It comes in so clutch!
Save here, I love that bow. I was able to do a headshot build on my assassin, 4 headshots to kill the fat oni brutes and with each headshot, I get 1 resolve filled, my ability be going off like every 2-3 kills depending on the mongol or oni lol
Last breath is awesome. I play ronin and I must stay alive to support my team players. I have extra revive health and bonus health and it's nice to have
man gooshy your awesome. thanks to your ronin spirit kunai build i’ve been having lots of fun wiping enemies with just my kunai, it’s so fun and it’s funny how i never run into anyone using it, it’s so OP
I agree with most of your list, except the fact that you put Demon Seeds and most of the Charms above Master's Katana. Stone Master and Moon Master with Raging Flame on the Fire Samurai destroys waves in Survival and Rivals. Not to mention you could also go with Wind Master and one shot the smaller guys, and Way of the Flame the Oni. It's extremely versatile. I have Master's Katana on my Samurai sometimes and yeah, I have great results with it.
@@Madness74747 I actually have 3 different Master's Katanas, each one set up a different way, and depending on how I want to play, I'll equip one of them.
@@joeyjones9041 yeah that's great, I suppose moon and stone or moon or wind is better but i feel so much more in control when i have water master and stone master. It's fun
@@Madness74747 honestly, each stance's master version is strong imo, I have a Samurai Build with the Legendary Katana Wrath of Sarugami which is a Water Katana and I have Intimidating Counter and Water Master as the perks, then I have Explosive Blade as the Class Ability and on my Samurai Charm I have Explosive Blade Radius 99.3%, don't remember the other stat, and for the perks I have Blessed Strikes and Leeching Parry. Water Master is the only Stance I use on that Katana and it does great in Survival and Story mode, I did win one Rivals match with the build, but I have a Fire Samurai Build with Forbidden Medicine and Liquid Courage as the Legendary items for my Rivals Build. To me Water Stance is the most versatile stance in the game, then I'd go with Moon Stance, Stone Stance isn't bad either. It all depends on what class you're playing as, the mode, and your playstyle. I have multiple builds for the Samurai, 3 builds for the Assassin, and 2 for the Ronin and Hunter to facilitate different playstyles and strategies.
As an assasin main i am offended. I play the stealth assasin build with cooldown reduction and the touch of heaven heals way more than the forbidden medicine and i dont have to go get ammo.
one of my friend suggested buffing weighless spirit so it does more damage the further the enemy is since it doesnt drop it can promte a sniper style play....tbh this bow has been useless ever since they patched the explosive arrow glitch...bc back then with draw speed and reload speed thiiiiiiiis thing was broken xD
I love my Demon Seeds. Helps to control point, choke points, can stop charging spear Oni. Weaken plus Deep Bags plus Fired Up when I already have a fire build on my Samurai is a no brainer for me.
@@GooshyG Yeah they have to run over more than one spike though. I basically play around the perimeter of the caltrops and bait enemies into it. Demon Seeds with Ghost Weapon Damage, Cooldown on Kill, Deep Bags, Fired Up
I pulled the skipping stone bow and the suguru sight and dismantled the skipping stone idk I like sugurus sight it just hits hard asf with my hunter my power level is 112 rn and it does good for me i wish I didn’t dismantle the skipping bow now I feel like ima never see it again after watching this video
Great video, Goosh! I appreciate these kind of breakdowns. I've been really into using the Heavenly Rebuke on my Ronin since I prefer to use water stance. Still considering Spirit Kunai over sticky bomb but I don't want to give up my Forbidden Medicine for the legendary slot. Gahhh... decisions. haha
Go for Rebuke and Spirit Kunai, honestly he can go without forbidden medicine and with the Kunai you can get your healing pot faster = more consistent use
The game changer for me was LIQUID COURAGE (resolve filler). Due to frequent ultis, My Samurai and Hunter turned from Average Joes to mass murderers!! It’s also great for Assassin. Ronin doesn’t need it. Benkei (arrow immunity) is amazing and top tier. In addition to hwachas, it also protects against those machine gun style fire arrows from those teleporting onis. So, while your all teammates lie dead on the ground, you still kick ass. I also love Shogun charm against flash and poison. Not only it protects you from another common cause of death (especially after exploding dead bodies), it also protects your eye health IN REAL LIFE from those annoying flashes.
I like "Lady Sanjo's Surprise" because: 1) Quick Cooldown 2) It's the only tool I've seen so far that can interrupt any enemy animation (charges with spears, spinning,etc)
I agree with everything but putting demon seeds in the dishonorable tier. It work well when spreading fire on a status build and really helps close the gap to get enemies down to a reasonable size health bar end game
I love the Master’s Katana, I feel confident fighting every type of enemy. Surprised it’s so low! Compared to other katanas, I honestly also find it the most fun, it’s the most engaging and requires some concentration because you’re constantly switching gears and tactics depending on the enemy whereas other builds more or less have a universal tactic they use against every enemy type
I like it but I think having heavenly strike or extra damage is better. After getting used to being limited with stances, it just isn't the most effective anymore.
Try Masamunes edge with stone stance... what people dont know about the Stone hold heavy attack is that it does about 5 swings of damage with one swing... Do that with masamunes and 20% of hold button attacks will do 10 swings of damage. This will one shot any small enemy in the game, letting you instantly move to a new target. It can also one shot a quarter health fat Oni.
You should make an update tier list now that there won’t be any more patches. The last update gave pretty significant buffs to legendary charms and katanas
Can you make a new tier list? There has been so many nerfs and buffs since this vid. less ammo gift locations. liquid courage is 1-2 resolve now. tengu demons do nearly double damage with crows, all katanas buffed to 25% melee resolve gains instead of 10%. ammo altar pickups now restore some health. dual bladed staff brutes are nearly unstaggerable, and counter every melee attack after the first melee combo/hit. poison affects knock you off slack lines and thin walls now, and causes poison damage when you hit the ground. hanging on grapple hook and ladders still prevent poison damage. there's a lot more. the weightless spirit is on of the better bows to use now on non-hunter classes. 3 headshots gives 1 resolve. "bottle of liquid courage" and "weightless spirit" on an ultimate heavy build for samurai, and you can get 3 hachiman's fury in every wave. i get 200+ kills every gold survival.
If you run cool down stats on both your magma bomb and smoke bomb as a hunter, you’ll pretty much ALWAYS have a smoke bomb (you’ll be able to cycle through them). For me, I’d say that’s S tier.
My legendaries are Assassin: magma bomb+forbidden medicine Ronin: spirit kunai Hunter: skipping stone+bottle of liquid courage Samurai: masamune edge+bottle of liquid courage
i think the biggest reason people use(d) a legendary katana is for the god roll on melee damage. especially with the new legendaries in game ( the gourd by far ) theres just better legendaries to use than a legendary katana. spirit kunai on ronin is absolutely insane rn
Agree on most of the list but The Mist of Yagata is little better than you realize, True it's just A Smoke bomb with small healing but between using The mist and regular smoke in saving life situation are whole different result. I would personally give it for Dishonorable or B Tier. Anyway this is a good Tier list and very nice for new players.
Also, munitions and lucky make it a must on my Ronin, cause I use forbidden medicine. It's rare, sure, but being able to toss grenades, mist of yagata for more bombs, and possible 2 or more times comes clutch
Tbf tho even now the luck perk wirh only a 15% chance to reset cooldown ive found takes effect a bit often. There are some times where it might only happen once per story but theres other times ive gotten it back to back, so 20% id say wouldnt be that bad
i think shogun should be atleast one tier higher, since its good for ronin for the EXTRA 20% ghostweapon damage, ronin charm doesnt have ghostweapon damage, only the assassins one, i use shogun for 20% gw damage, spirit kunai 20% and caltrops (non legendary) 20% + the skill from ronin +50% gw damage. The kunais and caltrops are mad with all these stats stacked
About the wrath of sarugami, it doesn't require a defensive playstyle in the duel at least. You can use moon stance with it for example to keep kicking iyo to force an attack to be countered instead of just standing there.
Is there something special about the moon kick or does any attack work? I used to throw out a single surging strike to force an attack but Idt it makes a difference
@@GooshyG Not really sure, but after two kicks iyo will always dodge my third kick and usually do a parryable attack right away. That's the trick I used to solo chapter 3 with less than 5 stacks on all classes that are able to do the black powder skip.
I stopped using any legendary swords. But! Only sword I like still is the sword does double damage with the samurai with forbidden med. but the build I have on that is melee damage with fire and super armor where I don’t get knocked back where I’m just doing burning damage. When enemies hit me, I have the bottle with damage resolve and taking less damage. I gain just as much or same as liquid bottle. Only ghost weapon build with this is using sticky bomb until I really need to use the bottle. But great video!
Yoshitsune needs to be atleast D tier bc when you use it i lets you focus on specific enemies and it does almost Critical strike damage,and the fact you get to do it several times while they are on the ground it makes it great for picking of enemies.
List is agreeable, but heavens sting is super underrated! I made a super strong critical strike assassin build because heavens sting gives you a 25% assassination dmg, the healing smoke bomb gives a 25% assassination dmg, and using the first technique on assassin buffs assassination dmg 30%. That’s and extra 80%! Plus if you use the technique where your poison deals 2x dmg that’s 160% assassinnation dmg! Super effective!
But you gotta trade the poison for that slow ass assassination animation. Tbh as a Assassin main, we should already come with quicker more sneaky ways to kill. My build would be perfect if I could get posion damage and quick assassination.
@@dejuanhickman3175 I agree we should be able to have access to quick assassination as assassins, but with my build it usually takes me around 2 critical strikes in my smoke and like 2-3 poison darts to take down most oni. The purple spear ones might take a little more after but I can still take them down pretty fast. Give it a shot and lmk. Also tell me ur build so I can try a new play style !
Ehhhh I prefer the weightless bow it’s far easier to get headshots for me as I’m running pure ronin but I might as well be an assassin the way I play lol….. might try the other classes just for the trophy!
Weightless Spirit in bottom tier is so laughable. It is such a strong bow, WS samurai and WS assassin are really strong too. And BELOW SUGARUS? Bruh lol. Insane take, hope you’ve come to your senses in the past year
something I do with suguru sight hunter. using the resupply perk and 50% of head shot perk. and the assasionation attempted perk which gives you 100% draw and reload speed. then just go wild after a smoke bomb. with how the suguru sight works. you have the regular draw. and reload aspect. but a fix auto aim of 1.5 sec. the longer you hold the more accurate it is for head shots. there is no stats work around for this. only a game play one. first of is distance. and charge time. so doing it on melee range, barely charging can still gets to head shots. so you can just rapid fire arrows. and resupply.
Spell check on the title haha But yeah pretty accurate list, I would say the saving grace for heavens sting is making story and trials fast… if your lucky 😆
I agree with your opinion on the legendary‘s but There’s a trick with Kenji shared brewed you must have a black powder bomb throw it at yourself and then use Kenji shared brewed
Yo... Gooshy. Nice! I generally agree, though I would put Masumane's Edge and Demon Seeds in Happy Jin Tier. I might make some other adjustments because while some legendaries are cool, you'd never actually use them because there are just other better legendaries you would always use ahead of them....#Warhammer_1414 💯
What is your gaming tag on PSN? It would be awesome to run a few games w/ you. Nice review! Been following since playing GOT. Keep up the awesome channel. Thanks for the updates.
I'm new to this game and i am hella confused. Can i just ask, at what part do i start to get legendary, or epic weapons? Is it once i complete the story missions? I wanna know
I think you need to add another tier. Because weightless spirit sucks so bad it doesn’t belong on the same level as any other legendary. It’s even worse than a standard Epic bow. It takes away your legendary slot but does nothing for you.
I'm testing a Lady Sanjo 120 with Rancid× Fired up on my Ronin. My stats still need adjusting but I honestly don't think it's that bad. SK 120 SM+ HB good? No it's hard to beat that but better than sticky bomb? Possibly.. my theory is it falls in the middle between the 2 maybe magma could be slightly better because of the smoke .
I love using yoshitsunes hands for my samurai, can easily kill enemies quickly with the water master perk attached. its mainly focused on ultimate spams so no point using heavenly strike, only better katana is the moon master katana if your good at the animation cancel trick.
@@MegaZeb786 you could then just use a regular water katana in case you are not using that square knockdown perk when triggered and use the legendary slot for something else, it seems out of all legendary katanas this yoshitsune is kind of lackluster, but maybe having melee stagger damage and staggered damage as properties could make it good
@@Madness74747 thats the main reason, in less then 2 surge strikes u can stagger an oni and kill it. If it didnt have the stagger dmg then i wouldnt be using it in all fairness. I only use it on my Ronin, my Sam and Assassin use the epic water katana as their build is focus around ultimates and stealth so no point using yoshitsunes hand. At the end of the day its what build you are using.
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I love how to this day, I unlock every single legendary except the skipping bow
SERIOUSLY!!! Every week hunter rewards and not a single one
Oof dude… I’m sorry. Rng can suck sometimes
@@GooshyG it wont drop unless u spam with hunter
Try to farm in trials of iyo before it gets reset
Dude use the hunter to play this weeks trial of iyo. You can blow through it in an average of 4 minutes and you get shit tons of legendaries every time you do it
Worth mentioning that if you're a Ronin you can use Forbidden Medicine to heal your team even if your health is at max.
Ronin generally has better sources of healing so forbidden medicine is kind of a wasted legend slot. Unless you're going for a full damage build on Ronin then forbidden medicine will make up the heals. Else, there are better legends the ronin can take advantage of like my personal fav, spirit kunai
Masamune for life! The reason I like it is because it doubles basically any kind of damage, be it stealth, counterattack or regular melee, and also doubles stagger damage too as a result. Plus most of the harshest enemies are spear types so you can always easily parry them.
Something I only learned recently despite playing since launch is that you can only perform a perfect dodge when you have your sword drawn. No idea why. At least in my experience that’s how it appears to be. Dodging around with the sword sheathed and nothing, but as soon as the sword comes out, it suddenly becomes possible
Noticed the same thing a couple days ago. Been playing since release xD Still learning something new.
Also, doesn’t the perfect party window also affect the perfect dodge window?
@@CidolofasOrlandu I don't think so? Haven't tested personally but it doesn't feel as consistent as perfect parry with the +12%. Plus the thing says clearly "perfect PARRY"so...
Yup
Same in the main game
I’ve been using master’s katana on my samurai since I unlocked it. I love not having to deal with any bullshit and just blowing through everybody with it. I can understand why some people would rather use another legendary instead tho. It seems underwhelming at first glance.
Same
Masters katana is the best for samurai cause you can just hold zones in survival if you know how to use it it’s amazing
i loved using all stances in the story mode so i got used to quickly switching stances and it just makes tge game so easy
@@vs_richy8516 And all stances work not only against the enemies they are made against, moon stance if you use strong attack deals damage through the block, water stance is just funny, since you can kick enemies and etc
Been using Master's katana since the time I unlocked it on my Samurai. Paired it with burning blade, stagger damage and perfect parry window. Love it to death, gets me through almost everything but I will have to change one of the percentage perks
Not sure if people knows this but the magma bomb has a 6-7 second smoke only if you’re not playing smoke bomb with it. With the smoke bomb it lasts up to 18-20 seconds.
Yes thanks!
I would put Magma bomb on Bag cuz not only it's a secondary smoke but also damages enemies.
Great for assassins who can't one shot certain enemies but with that initial explotion, it will be enough for one shots.
It def is pretty good 😊
With a stealth assassin damage build on assassin, magma is my preferred legendary
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Even though I don’t agree with your placement of Master’s Katana, I’m super happy to see your placement of Heavenly Rebuke! I use it for my Ronin alongside Master’s Katana and honestly it seems to compliment him well. Great video!
Thanks!
Magma bomb is pretty good imo I think it’s good for both assassin and hunter so you can basically crowd control anything but I feel like it’ll be more useful for hunter due to it creating another smoke so you can basically get those free shots in good tier list tho 👍
Most def! I’ve been using it on hunter to attempt solo survival
"if the enemy is staggered by the poison damage, this does not count (to trigger the Demon Cutter's ability)" Actually it does work with any poison (blowgun, poison blade, Toxic Vanish).
It also works with Yoshitsune's Hand; additionally, if you're getting a stagger with the aoe from Toxic Vanish both katana can affect multiple targets.
This also works when paired with Spirit Kunai that has Super Massive (or a charm with Impactful Throws); enemies will go flying then be bent down, ready to receive critical hits.
however, it only works on "small" stature enemies, it does not work on large regular enemies, animals or large oni.
Unfortunately Gooshy is right. Demon Cutter will not proc with poison or kuni. It will proc during the assassin’s ult and samurai ult.
It’s only with melee damage. I’ve done testing a while ago and poison didn’t work. That would have made a CRAZY build! Both with kunai and poison
@@GooshyG
neither katana demands that it be the source of the stagger, if a stagger occurs while the katana is equipped the effect can proc.
its a low proc % but it absolutely does happen from poison blade, blowgun poison and toxic vanish.
its not enough to merely poison the enemy, they must fully lose their entire stagger meter and begin the stagger animation where they stumble around, THEN it can proc.
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I feel they need to seriously buff all of the charms and could buff most of the legendries as they are. What's the point in having 30 legendries when people only use five of them?
It would add some nice variety. Everyone already knows the best metas, we need to challenge that.
Another chapter in the Gospel of Gooshy.
Been eagerly awaiting this to drop and its finally here, i cant wait to take advantage of the insights and modify various class builds. Thanks you for taking the time and effort to compile all this information. I bow before you oh Great One.
Hahaha I am a mere mortal. Just tryna share what I’ve learned
Heaven's sting is a top tier in speedrunning story.
That’s what I hear but my luck is so bad. I can never get it to proc
@@GooshyG did you try it after the 120 update? I think they buff the HS, it always one shot non oni enemies also try to headshot them.
@@GooshyG I get it to proc all the time. It really helps a lot of story.
Hmmm I haven’t tried the difference between headshots and body shots. Maybe that’s the answer!
@@GooshyG with the poison build you can one shot some normal mongols with the headshot (poison dart)
Ever since playing Assassin, magma bomb with lucky and increased radius was my go to smokescreen. Tho i just hope they add another perk for assassin and ronin called Poison master or a charm that creates chain lightning kills similar to the rebuke charm but for assassin. Idk just an idea but i love how you put them in tier list. Good job man.
Yeah poison def needs some love. Would help assassin out a bunch.
Honestly, sugaru's sight is really good for filling up your ulti bar. So if you are playing survival and there are a lot of ammo refill, you wont even need the munitions or scavanger perk. And, it doesnt give you pain for aiming at some weird enemy that move back and forth every second
Masters Katana belongs on the top for the sole fact that of its stagger damage that has literally saved me so many times
Masamune’s edge may not prock often as one would like, but when it does, and you have a damage build… omg
Masamune’s edge: melee damage, oni damage, water stance, stone stance
+ range: bow with whatever
+ samurai charm: melee damage, explosive blade radius (or oni damage), blessed strikes, health increase
+ kunai: melee damage, whatever else
+ healing gourd: injured resolve gain, cooldown on kill, strong brew, sudden resolve
+ explosive blade
+ 25% melee damage
+ Block arrows (or resolve)
+ 5 hit ultimate
= Tank samurai, hack oni to pieces
I got 274 kills on nightmare with 3 teammates lol
I want to stand up for the demon seeds! Onis get destroyed when they walk into them. I use deep bags and fires up then go ham with the katana when they enter. It makes me a Happy Jin at least lol
Hahahhaha glad you like them! They were my favorite legendary for a while. It just gets outclassed by other leggos imo
Demon seeds are unreal on a Fire Ronin . They can melt waves in nightmare @ 120 ki w/deep bags and Fired up. +50% ghost weapon damage technique and fire master with tons of fire dmg. They are kind of a niche thing tho.
I haved with fire and the increased of range for the Samurai. It melts enemy’s and onis.
This video is so good and insightful for those of us who enjoy playing legends, appreciate the work that went into this. Awesome job Gooshy! 🙏🙏🙌🙌
Thanks man! Honestly 💚 was a lot of work. Much appreciated 😁
I think they need to have another mode for survival like nightmare but no arrows or floating ball. Gold is too easy and nightmare, well it’s too long of a week to keep playing the same map over and over. Plus with nightmare, too many be quitting.
yes! leave the nightmare weekly event but also give us nightmare enemy difficulty in survival runs
Dunno when exactly they added Platinum, but hey that’s a thing! And exactly how you describe, it’s basically like a nightmare with no nightmare de buffs and no arrows or floating balls lol. And 110 gear as a reward
I still have never used Wrath of Sarugami and I decided to grind on one after watching this video! Thank you for info Gooshy!
Ain’t no way you did yoshitsunes hand like that 😭 it’s really good in my opinion
I'd put the Mist of Yagata in D tier and move Touch of Heaven up.
Touch of Heaven was my go to heal (with blast radius) it was a huge amount very quickly and found it useful in the raids I could throw it at a wall (exit to the chest rooms) and top everyone back up, or at low hp throw it at a brute opening them up to circle+square spam while giving me 50+ hp.
As a stealth assassin (wanting the bonus from blowgun) I only unequipped ToH once I got Magma Bomb.
Were Yagata has a slow heal and you need to stay still to benefit. I think I used it once and never equipped it again (combat regeneration was more effective)
Class technique tier list next?
Oh shoot that’s a good idea
I put the weightless spirit at the top. It’s basically a sniper rifle as a bow. I tried the skipping stone but i did not like it. The draw speed was really long and it is really hard to hit targets at long range with this. I have it on every character. Although I think I would like it more if I could get the animation cancels down. Also, restorative rhythm is also my favorite charm. It comes in so clutch!
Same!! Weightless Spirit is absolutely disgusting with headshot builds. It’s great for farming ultimates. I clear out Nightmare waves solo with it.
Save here, I love that bow. I was able to do a headshot build on my assassin, 4 headshots to kill the fat oni brutes and with each headshot, I get 1 resolve filled, my ability be going off like every 2-3 kills depending on the mongol or oni lol
@@pancho-co2me I have been looking for a good assassin headshot build. Care to share yours w/ your techniques?
My boy, the Master Katana is mint.
Last breath is awesome. I play ronin and I must stay alive to support my team players. I have extra revive health and bonus health and it's nice to have
man gooshy your awesome. thanks to your ronin spirit kunai build i’ve been having lots of fun wiping enemies with just my kunai, it’s so fun and it’s funny how i never run into anyone using it, it’s so OP
Ayyyeeee! Glad I could help. It’s super fun 🤩
I agree with most of your list, except the fact that you put Demon Seeds and most of the Charms above Master's Katana. Stone Master and Moon Master with Raging Flame on the Fire Samurai destroys waves in Survival and Rivals. Not to mention you could also go with Wind Master and one shot the smaller guys, and Way of the Flame the Oni. It's extremely versatile. I have Master's Katana on my Samurai sometimes and yeah, I have great results with it.
I’ve really gotta make a dedicated build with masters. I’ll give it a try!
I use water master and stone master with raging flame, i like it very much
@@Madness74747 I actually have 3 different Master's Katanas, each one set up a different way, and depending on how I want to play, I'll equip one of them.
@@joeyjones9041 yeah that's great, I suppose moon and stone or moon or wind is better but i feel so much more in control when i have water master and stone master. It's fun
@@Madness74747 honestly, each stance's master version is strong imo, I have a Samurai Build with the Legendary Katana Wrath of Sarugami which is a Water Katana and I have Intimidating Counter and Water Master as the perks, then I have Explosive Blade as the Class Ability and on my Samurai Charm I have Explosive Blade Radius 99.3%, don't remember the other stat, and for the perks I have Blessed Strikes and Leeching Parry. Water Master is the only Stance I use on that Katana and it does great in Survival and Story mode, I did win one Rivals match with the build, but I have a Fire Samurai Build with Forbidden Medicine and Liquid Courage as the Legendary items for my Rivals Build. To me Water Stance is the most versatile stance in the game, then I'd go with Moon Stance, Stone Stance isn't bad either. It all depends on what class you're playing as, the mode, and your playstyle. I have multiple builds for the Samurai, 3 builds for the Assassin, and 2 for the Ronin and Hunter to facilitate different playstyles and strategies.
Weightless spirit, heaven sting, masamune should be happy Jin dats just my opinion
As an assasin main i am offended. I play the stealth assasin build with cooldown reduction and the touch of heaven heals way more than the forbidden medicine and i dont have to go get ammo.
one of my friend suggested buffing weighless spirit so it does more damage the further the enemy is since it doesnt drop it can promte a sniper style play....tbh this bow has been useless ever since they patched the explosive arrow glitch...bc back then with draw speed and reload speed thiiiiiiiis thing was broken xD
I would gladly take that draw/reload speed back
Friends*
Agree with basically everything
Only thing I’d change is sacred iron to happy Jin tier, stagger damage is kinda underrated IMO
Thank you I been searching for all legendary available in the game and couldn't find one thank you so much
You’re welcome 😁
I love my Demon Seeds. Helps to control point, choke points, can stop charging spear Oni. Weaken plus Deep Bags plus Fired Up when I already have a fire build on my Samurai is a no brainer for me.
Really it stops charging oni? I’m have to try that out
@@GooshyG Yeah they have to run over more than one spike though. I basically play around the perimeter of the caltrops and bait enemies into it. Demon Seeds with Ghost Weapon Damage, Cooldown on Kill, Deep Bags, Fired Up
Sucker Punch should really do something about buffing the legendary half bows and legendary blow darts
Yeah some of the other legendaries need some love!
@@GooshyG no love at all feelzbad
I pulled the skipping stone bow and the suguru sight and dismantled the skipping stone idk I like sugurus sight it just hits hard asf with my hunter my power level is 112 rn and it does good for me i wish I didn’t dismantle the skipping bow now I feel like ima never see it again after watching this video
I personally love the masters katana just because of the flexibility with stances, and then lady sanjos surprise is also my favorite
Great video, Goosh! I appreciate these kind of breakdowns. I've been really into using the Heavenly Rebuke on my Ronin since I prefer to use water stance. Still considering Spirit Kunai over sticky bomb but I don't want to give up my Forbidden Medicine for the legendary slot. Gahhh... decisions. haha
Thanks! I love my spirit kunai, but sticky is a really good option with that increase GW dmg
Go for Rebuke and Spirit Kunai, honestly he can go without forbidden medicine and with the Kunai you can get your healing pot faster = more consistent use
The game changer for me was LIQUID COURAGE (resolve filler). Due to frequent ultis, My Samurai and Hunter turned from Average Joes to mass murderers!! It’s also great for Assassin. Ronin doesn’t need it.
Benkei (arrow immunity) is amazing and top tier. In addition to hwachas, it also protects against those machine gun style fire arrows from those teleporting onis. So, while your all teammates lie dead on the ground, you still kick ass.
I also love Shogun charm against flash and poison. Not only it protects you from another common cause of death (especially after exploding dead bodies), it also protects your eye health IN REAL LIFE from those annoying flashes.
I like "Lady Sanjo's Surprise" because:
1) Quick Cooldown
2) It's the only tool I've seen so far that can interrupt any enemy animation (charges with spears, spinning,etc)
Normal Dirt throw too interrupts every animation
I agree with everything but putting demon seeds in the dishonorable tier. It work well when spreading fire on a status build and really helps close the gap to get enemies down to a reasonable size health bar end game
I love the Master’s Katana, I feel confident fighting every type of enemy. Surprised it’s so low! Compared to other katanas, I honestly also find it the most fun, it’s the most engaging and requires some concentration because you’re constantly switching gears and tactics depending on the enemy whereas other builds more or less have a universal tactic they use against every enemy type
@@timothybabb9360 I think maybe you meant this for another comment but yea that is unfortunate
@@Yuber187 yep, thx
Thanks ! Yeah it’s def a different play style I’m not used to. I’ll have to try it out!
@@GooshyG give it a shot! It’s a lot of fun to me. Thanks for the tier list breakdown 👍🏽
I like it but I think having heavenly strike or extra damage is better. After getting used to being limited with stances, it just isn't the most effective anymore.
Woah 😳 BENKEI LAST STAND IS GOOD
Riiiiiight?!?
Enjo remorse is on every build for a reason. It's hard to deny all those damage buffs.
I was waiting for this and it finally came out
Try Masamunes edge with stone stance... what people dont know about the Stone hold heavy attack is that it does about 5 swings of damage with one swing... Do that with masamunes and 20% of hold button attacks will do 10 swings of damage. This will one shot any small enemy in the game, letting you instantly move to a new target. It can also one shot a quarter health fat Oni.
You should make an update tier list now that there won’t be any more patches. The last update gave pretty significant buffs to legendary charms and katanas
What you do to farm all these legendary items? Is running the first story still the best choice?
Trails of iyo definitely the best way of getting legendarys, i always get at least 2. If ur not ki lvl 120, severed hearts is probably ur best bet.
@@jamienguyen6603 Thank you for replying. I can only complete chapter 1 of Iyo’s Trail 😭 gonna find some luck there.
I want sp to add more legendaries to the game. Mainly ranged weapons and charms please
Yes! And ones NOT from the single payer. They cool and all but I wanna see something new
The mechanics would needs balance again and i think theyve done with updates
Good vid gooshy keep up the good work
Thanks!
18:00 that is one of the best in top because you can distract the enemy and cure yourself so they can’t kill you so easy specially in boss fights.
This is good, I havent used the Enjo at all, now im giving it a chance to test. Also the Benkei crap, thanks Goosh
Glad to help!
Can you make a new tier list?
There has been so many nerfs and buffs since this vid. less ammo gift locations. liquid courage is 1-2 resolve now. tengu demons do nearly double damage with crows, all katanas buffed to 25% melee resolve gains instead of 10%. ammo altar pickups now restore some health.
dual bladed staff brutes are nearly unstaggerable, and counter every melee attack after the first melee combo/hit. poison affects knock you off slack lines and thin walls now, and causes poison damage when you hit the ground. hanging on grapple hook and ladders still prevent poison damage.
there's a lot more.
the weightless spirit is on of the better bows to use now on non-hunter classes.
3 headshots gives 1 resolve. "bottle of liquid courage" and "weightless spirit" on an ultimate heavy build for samurai, and you can get 3 hachiman's fury in every wave.
i get 200+ kills every gold survival.
The healing gourd only works if there is someone to heal so it can be used while full but you have to be near someone damaged
If you run cool down stats on both your magma bomb and smoke bomb as a hunter, you’ll pretty much ALWAYS have a smoke bomb (you’ll be able to cycle through them). For me, I’d say that’s S tier.
“Bag tier” lol. But yeah it’s pretty good. I wouldn’t say it meta defining. So top of Happy Jin is pretty good right?
I feel like, ranking the legendary item should factor…the actual item that it is? That statement threw me off guard, but imma keep watching.
Enjoyable video, well done Gooshy😎
Level 130 ronin... played lots since update & still can’t get damn Heavenly Rebuke to drop ! 🤔😐😖😳
I’ve only got my second like a couple days ago. They don’t come by that often 😅 I wish you luck!
I didn't expect the teir lists to be the taka and teabagg 😂😂
Masters katana is fun taking down every enemy in seconds
I immediately added benkeis remorse and ran some blood and steel, tremendous help!
For my assassin build, I have spirit kunai and that resolve thing. It's been working out!
SK is the best!
My legendaries are
Assassin: magma bomb+forbidden medicine
Ronin: spirit kunai
Hunter: skipping stone+bottle of liquid courage
Samurai: masamune edge+bottle of liquid courage
i think the biggest reason people use(d) a legendary katana is for the god roll on melee damage.
especially with the new legendaries in game ( the gourd by far ) theres just better legendaries to use than a legendary katana.
spirit kunai on ronin is absolutely insane rn
Yeah the max stats does help. Besides stone striker, I never use a leggo katana these day
@@GooshyG i used yoshitsunes hand for a while, but only because i didnt have a good epic water katana
Agree on most of the list but The Mist of Yagata is little better than you realize, True it's just A Smoke bomb with small healing but between using The mist and regular smoke in saving life situation are whole different result. I would personally give it for Dishonorable or B Tier.
Anyway this is a good Tier list and very nice for new players.
Thanks!
Also, munitions and lucky make it a must on my Ronin, cause I use forbidden medicine. It's rare, sure, but being able to toss grenades, mist of yagata for more bombs, and possible 2 or more times comes clutch
You couldn't get footage of the lightning strike nor dodge flash legendaries?
I'm late to the party but nice vid!
Tbf tho even now the luck perk wirh only a 15% chance to reset cooldown ive found takes effect a bit often. There are some times where it might only happen once per story but theres other times ive gotten it back to back, so 20% id say wouldnt be that bad
i think shogun should be atleast one tier higher, since its good for ronin for the EXTRA 20% ghostweapon damage, ronin charm doesnt have ghostweapon damage, only the assassins one, i use shogun for 20% gw damage, spirit kunai 20% and caltrops (non legendary) 20% + the skill from ronin +50% gw damage. The kunais and caltrops are mad with all these stats stacked
Great list brothaVomit n Teabag Crew
Hahahha thanks dude. Chu already know
About the wrath of sarugami, it doesn't require a defensive playstyle in the duel at least. You can use moon stance with it for example to keep kicking iyo to force an attack to be countered instead of just standing there.
Is there something special about the moon kick or does any attack work? I used to throw out a single surging strike to force an attack but Idt it makes a difference
@@GooshyG Not really sure, but after two kicks iyo will always dodge my third kick and usually do a parryable attack right away. That's the trick I used to solo chapter 3 with less than 5 stacks on all classes that are able to do the black powder skip.
I stopped using any legendary swords. But! Only sword I like still is the sword does double damage with the samurai with forbidden med. but the build I have on that is melee damage with fire and super armor where I don’t get knocked back where I’m just doing burning damage. When enemies hit me, I have the bottle with damage resolve and taking less damage. I gain just as much or same as liquid bottle. Only ghost weapon build with this is using sticky bomb until I really need to use the bottle. But great video!
Thanks! 😁 awesome build
Thank you
I was today years old when I found out that you can jump over the hammer circle blast
Sweet! Been waiting for this
It’s out! Hope it helps!
You can build your alt quicker with the weightless spirit than the skipping stone bow😂
It's funny how the "worst legendary bow" later the last buff, now is one of the best Weapons of the game.
Haha I like it! They gotta buff more weapons
Yoshitsune needs to be atleast D tier bc when you use it i lets you focus on specific enemies and it does almost Critical strike damage,and the fact you get to do it several times while they are on the ground it makes it great for picking of enemies.
Yea I’d put it in D tier, I don’t think it’s F tier deserving lol
U can insta kill general spearman and or the super tanky gold generals with the heaven sting
List is agreeable, but heavens sting is super underrated! I made a super strong critical strike assassin build because heavens sting gives you a 25% assassination dmg, the healing smoke bomb gives a 25% assassination dmg, and using the first technique on assassin buffs assassination dmg 30%. That’s and extra 80%! Plus if you use the technique where your poison deals 2x dmg that’s 160% assassinnation dmg! Super effective!
But you can get that with an epic blow gun right?
@@GooshyG yea! That’s the heavens sting I was talking about lol
But you gotta trade the poison for that slow ass assassination animation. Tbh as a Assassin main, we should already come with quicker more sneaky ways to kill. My build would be perfect if I could get posion damage and quick assassination.
@@dejuanhickman3175 I agree we should be able to have access to quick assassination as assassins, but with my build it usually takes me around 2 critical strikes in my smoke and like 2-3 poison darts to take down most oni. The purple spear ones might take a little more after but I can still take them down pretty fast. Give it a shot and lmk. Also tell me ur build so I can try a new play style !
Ehhhh I prefer the weightless bow it’s far easier to get headshots for me as I’m running pure ronin but I might as well be an assassin the way I play lol….. might try the other classes just for the trophy!
I don't know why I keep watching this but atleast I learned that jumps avoid brute oni aoe attacks.
:( you stole my look, the moustache bucket man was my thing ;
:( underpants in story too
Hahahha been doing it since day 1
Weightless Spirit in bottom tier is so laughable. It is such a strong bow, WS samurai and WS assassin are really strong too. And BELOW SUGARUS? Bruh lol. Insane take, hope you’ve come to your senses in the past year
Check the date. This was before the WS buff
When I used the kenjis shared brew I could use it at full health and fill my first resolve whenever
If we use Enjos remorse is it possible to still get the class perks?
Masamune would’ve been better off just saying 20% bonus damage. But no. The game about melee has to be about spamming bombs and bow attacks.
something I do with suguru sight hunter.
using the resupply perk and 50% of head shot perk.
and the assasionation attempted perk which gives you 100% draw and reload speed.
then just go wild after a smoke bomb.
with how the suguru sight works.
you have the regular draw. and reload aspect.
but a fix auto aim of 1.5 sec. the longer you hold the more accurate it is for head shots. there is no stats work around for this. only a game play one.
first of is distance. and charge time.
so doing it on melee range, barely charging can still gets to head shots.
so you can just rapid fire arrows. and resupply.
oh shoot nice! i'll have to try that out
Spell check on the title haha
But yeah pretty accurate list, I would say the saving grace for heavens sting is making story and trials fast… if your lucky 😆
Shoot Thanks
And yo, I am so unlucky with that thing. Maybe my luck is just trash tier lol
I agree with your opinion on the legendary‘s but There’s a trick with Kenji shared brewed you must have a black powder bomb throw it at yourself and then use Kenji shared brewed
A bit of a waste don't you think? Especially with the nerf to ghost offerings
Hahah i was gonna say, I ain’t gonna waste a bp just to heal a teammate lol.
Yo... Gooshy. Nice! I generally agree, though I would put Masumane's Edge and Demon Seeds in Happy Jin Tier. I might make some other adjustments because while some legendaries are cool, you'd never actually use them because there are just other better legendaries you would always use ahead of them....#Warhammer_1414 💯
So tru! Like masters katana! Sounds good but never used it haha
Gr8 list, Goosh =)
Thanks 🙏
I am looking for people to play with me, can I find a community for that 😅?
What is your gaming tag on PSN? It would be awesome to run a few games w/ you. Nice review! Been following since playing GOT. Keep up the awesome channel. Thanks for the updates.
Yeah no prob 😄 hmu when I stream!
I'm new to this game and i am hella confused. Can i just ask, at what part do i start to get legendary, or epic weapons? Is it once i complete the story missions? I wanna know
It's based on difficulty, silver can give legendary items but for guarantees, gold mode or higher is how you'll get them.
I think you need to add another tier. Because weightless spirit sucks so bad it doesn’t belong on the same level as any other legendary. It’s even worse than a standard Epic bow. It takes away your legendary slot but does nothing for you.
If they put that perk on a long bow with 200% zoom that might actually be dope. Like a sniper rifle.
Thank you king
You’re welcome sir
Finally an updated list
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I'm testing a Lady Sanjo 120 with Rancid× Fired up on my Ronin. My stats still need adjusting but I honestly don't think it's that bad. SK 120 SM+ HB good? No it's hard to beat that but better than sticky bomb? Possibly.. my theory is it falls in the middle between the 2 maybe magma could be slightly better because of the smoke .
I love using yoshitsunes hands for my samurai, can easily kill enemies quickly with the water master perk attached. its mainly focused on ultimate spams so no point using heavenly strike, only better katana is the moon master katana if your good at the animation cancel trick.
Does the square knockdown on this katana happen even on some oni enemies or just regular ones?
@@Madness74747 honestly i only use the triangle heavy attack for the surge strikes.
@@MegaZeb786 you could then just use a regular water katana in case you are not using that square knockdown perk when triggered and use the legendary slot for something else, it seems out of all legendary katanas this yoshitsune is kind of lackluster, but maybe having melee stagger damage and staggered damage as properties could make it good
@@Madness74747 thats the main reason, in less then 2 surge strikes u can stagger an oni and kill it. If it didnt have the stagger dmg then i wouldnt be using it in all fairness. I only use it on my Ronin, my Sam and Assassin use the epic water katana as their build is focus around ultimates and stealth so no point using yoshitsunes hand. At the end of the day its what build you are using.
@@MegaZeb786 yeah i was thinking of putting the yoshitsune one on a ronin too just for fun, thx man