Depends, im gonna back up the truck, and build an Empire, of Blood & Fleshes, Bones & Craked Bottles, buy up Rudys inventory, and lets sail to the sunset together😎👍🏻
@@boskarvil1570 I don't thinks so condsidering that Rudy is describing what sounds like a pyramid scam and he is still trying to sell people on the game.
imma be honest Long time Lurker This rudy is honestly one of your best videos made on this channel and why i like watching you. I hope you make more videos like this thanks for this magnum opus
So…. Investors who don’t *actually* play the game are mad because they can’t flip boxes/cards straight out of the gate for hundreds of dollars of profit? They’re mad because they can no longer abuse it? This is the world we live in. People are angry because they can no longer abuse something. As an outsider to FaB, all of this sounds like positive change for the game to me. White border cards in history reprint packs that don’t look as good, but give you cheap access to the cards you need? I wish Dragon Ball Super and Yugioh did that… The multiplayer thing sounds awesome.
Yugioh (TCG) does do that through their annual tin boxes (not the rarity drop but the increase in supply deflates prices) and eventual common reprints in structure decks. The OCG handles it way better because the demographic is different and as a general rule, Japanese companies keep the best stuff for themselves. :P
As a patreon who bought the $999 bundle.. I truly could care less….. Rudy is wrong literally 1 to 2 times out of every 30 product releases…my financial advisors have a way shitier record than that… and they don’t provide the daily comedy
Please don't ever forget that Rudy is primarily in it for the money. He might share some of his concerns but never all. And not to the extent that he undermines his own practice. Keep that in mind. Always. He has a business to run.
Makes me almost think they made 1st edition “less special” intentionally to screw them over. Now they likely are all removed from the distribution system (or negatively impacted in some way) and the removal of the 1st Ed stamp prevents issues like this from happening again while also making Cold Foils better for collectors
Throwing the unlimited booster box on the ground made me laugh out loud. thank u so much The history pack white border cards are so u can play without sleeves on the play ground concrete and use a rubber band to hold the deck together 😉😉😉
if they can pull off the PvE thing, that could really open the door for a lot of cool shit. bringing on traditional paper RPG players, and bringing traditional TCG players into that realm, and potentially even further, as well as offering multiple experiences for the new player, seems like an all around win, even if it means nuking the first edition for better longevity and an eventual separation of tiers once the full gameplay meta is established. people just want 10-year-plan results out of 3 years way too often.
The confidence is still gone since lss intentionally sabatosh its first edition print run from mon-everfest instead of keeping the product at 75k-85k throughout then announcing once everfest was oop that the game will be switching to a new model for fab 2.0 instead they printed mon to oblivion to make it not special anymore and piss of the collectors/investors and shake confidence in the game as a whole...
@@scififanman For everyone like you who's staying away because they tanked the market, there will be multiple people like me who'll give the game a new look because we don't want a CCG that caters to collectors where the cards cost any significant money.
It's great how one of Rudy's biggest complaints is how new Magic players do not have equity in their collections because they keep getting reprinted and crashing the value. But James's answer of reprinting but making it look WORSE will ensure the players who buy early will have truly rare and sought after cards. It's a really interesting concept. I think FaB will roar back to life with their next product cycle of 3. It's a great time to buy cold foils and sealed first ed for any long-term believer.
It’s a bullshit concept. Magic did it with white border core sets. Some of those core set cards are worth more than the original printing. If this is as tightly printed as they’re claiming, they could be more rare than rainbow foil staples, AND being the only printing in this style…..”ugly” or not that screams collectibility of the product. Odds are it will not have the intended consequences since EVERY store can order it. OR, it will not be a tight print run and we really will have chronicles 2.0
While I don't invest in FaB I am an LGS owner and my player base for FaB is mostly positive about the 2.0 changes. We have no plans to change how much we order due to the 2.0 changes.
Same here, also an LGS owner and the local community was all around happy with every announcement and we feel the game will now truly grow its playerbase now that there's a lower barrier to entry.
@@juanmanuelchairez389 Yep while all these changes might end up being bad for investors. I think they have a high chance of being good for the game overall.
This will tell the tcg world if a purely based players game can support a tcg on their own. The emphasis will be on the players to buy enough to keep the company afloat. This means lgs and the secondary market must see enough sales that allow them to buy and keep product stocked. As of now, there is no known metric to tell if so. So lets see if the players can keep the game afloat on their own. Im neither a player or investor btw.
@@EpicTubeHD it will be very similar to games like Wiess Schwarz. Most people buy Wiess to build decks and play the game. But a good number of people collect the signed cards ( in 1 - 4 boxes ) and invest in sealed product. The fact that they are keeping cold foils and making them even more chace will keep some of the collectors and investors around.
HOly crap mann, i haven't an anticipated a video from you in a very long time. Glad it's finally out. ANd i'm so glad it's a long conversation. Got my taco - chalupa extended cold foil chicken tendies to watch the video too.
certain distributors telling people oh...no...we don't have any...but if you get x number of unlimited we might be able to find you some...it's a shame
I am not a FAB player or investor. But to hear a company say they want to move away from investors and aim to put cards in the players hand.. truth be told, I support that. They unfortunately started with evil investors for their start-up (no offense Rudy, I myself am no Saint here either) so this led people to believe that FAB was more for investing then playing.. which is a very ugly thing. Now that I've heard James' side of the story, I want to buy product now and actually try it with friends.. cause I know nothing about the actual card game.
truth when i was first introduced to FaB people told me is was a "rich persons card game" im personally happy with the change going forward and hoping FaB sticks around
FAB said they wanted to put more cards in the hands of players- but what they have done in getting rid of 1 edition doesn’t make sense as a step to achieve larger production. The brilliance of Flesh and Blood’s 1st edition and unlimited edition was that both collectors and people who only wanted to play the game had releases specifically catered to themselves. Essentially they have abandon collectors to lump the the equivalent of mtg’s collector boosters into being just regular boosters-
This 100%. There wouldn't need to be a total freakout about the game and its survivability going forward if you believed in its gameplay and how fun it'd be to engage with. It needs to be a game that's involved and has an active playerbase to be successful, otherwise it dies off when something like this happens. You're essentially saying you don't believe in the game if you're not trusting its survivability going forward. I'm not a FAB player or investor myself, either.
@@justinlau1337 yes and you shouldn’t have to spend thousands. I’m not sure what relation what you are saying has to my point however. My point is you don’t need to destroy first edition to increase unlimited’s print run and get everyone the cards they want, while still giving collectors their own product. This is actually going to have the opposite effect- it will be harder to get cards and especially singles now that the value for the cards has plummeted and LGS’s are dropping FAB because their profit margins on the boosters has been burned away. FAB had an excellent system- why they are tearing it down for no apparent reason baffles me. Just print more unlimited and keep first edition.
My first EVER big purchase from you was that Mon 1st bundle Rudy. At the time, I was thrilled and happy to purchase what I thought was a great bundle for a great price! I'm still here and I still purchase every FAB bundle you have, save for the Gem Keeper simply because I just couldn't afford it at the time. Happy to still be Patron! I like the game.
I appreciate your honesty and willingness to take a step back and see both sides. That’s really important. I know people are hurt. Me included. But, the world is volatile and it doesn’t help to be constantly negative. Appreciate you sharing your conversation with James.
The first time LSS addressed the public, was indeed the best time they've addressed. Cause they've only addressed something in that manner, ONE TIME in the history of LSS. One of their touting points was "We communitcate with and listen to the community" but that was one of the boldest lies LSS ever told.
Fortnite came out with the an average tower defense game and went unoticed, came out with a battle royale and took over the gaming world. Are we about to witness the TCG equivalent?
I still love you Rudy! I survived the Tcg sagas of the 90s (Star trek, Star Wars, Pokemon, Wyvern, Mtg, Vampire, L5R, etc). You got to take your hits and keep on trucking.
Yup. Some of those CCG's didn't last more than a couple runs. I was a big Star Wars CCG collector back in the day. It lasted the longest besides Magic and Pokemon and it died out in 2001. That tells you something about the potential lifespan of a CCG if you're not careful/lucky.
I member star trek tcg my bother was Collecting it. God I haven't though about that in such a long time. I'm still sad wyvern failed honestly but it was ahead of its time. With the rise of furry and scales nowadays it would be a smash hit in their community.
@@tysnow9524 Agree. Regarding Wyvern, this is a very strange story in itself. HackandSlash game is trying to revive the game, they sell boxes even in 2022... but the original company, USgames still exist, but refuses to sell the legal rights to produce more expansions but refuse to continue the game themselves...
The fact is the game is amazing and the art is beautiful. Growing pains are a part of life. To me this is just weeding out the undesirables, the people only in it for free tendies, not the love of the game. I think the moves James made with 2.0 were great. Buy in the dip, buy cheap first edition, buy black border unlimited. Personally I think it's a good move.... but hey, I'm just some timmy on the internet.
I signed up for your patreon about 2 days before Monarch sale went live.. I was so excited to have a chance at my first ever Flesh & Blood product bundle. I remember messaging you making sure a new patron could even purchase a bundle of a product that was that much in demand. 8pm hit & I've never been so excited to send someone 999$ lol.. Fast forward a year, even throughout all the negativity, I still have these damn boxes. Even though it hurts to look at the price of those boxes, they still bring me joy because I just remember the excitement of taking a big chance on a new product I thought had a lot of potential. I still don't know what I'll do with the boxes in the future but I'll worry about that later.
I feel like the people we lose on this ride are not worthy to carry this game. I came from Keyforge and a company that did nothing to make it work and despite a loyal player base they did nothing with it. Here we have a company that continues to evolve and try to do the right thing for the player, and still care about the chase and collectors if they aren't looking to just flip cards on the spots. I believe that Mr. White is doing everything he can to make his game the best version he can. Part of that is a learning curve, and the other is vision. Both change over time, and I believe in the game. I love it and I hope that things pan out too. Hope to see everyone in NJ for the PT. I will be in the Calling and bringing some spice. Cheers and thanks for the amazing video Senor Rudy.
100% this... He's doing it for the players, and literally every person at the armories I go to were really happy with the announcement. Hopefully this whole event teaches the 'investors' about being greedy.
I would have never touched a flesh-and-blood card if it wasn't for you Rudy I will never look back with negativity there is always highs and lows in life we have to take them as they come I think we all know that some people are just learning.... it's just a fact of life
Speak for yourself, I look back with negativity, I look forward with negativity, and even as we speak I have five other tabs open on reddit and private facebook groups posting negativity at full steam REEEEEEEEEEE
@@CrosswaIk the fact that Metazoo/Mike has released NFTs and keep announcing absolute dogshit like eBay cards and skateboards and regular playing cards and does promos for EVERYTHING... dude, I was into MZ before and have a small collection of it, but damn what an awful awful direction to take the game. I like the card artworks and have also made money off it, but no more of it for me. Definitition of "leaves a bad taste in my mouth".
@@patrickbateman69420 It's also weird that I haven't seen anyone talk about the like....200k tournament they announced? It's something like that...and only like top 4 get money so the prize is weirdly big and not distributed well. This game went from looking like a cute, fun, casual, nostalgic thing to looking so so sketchy. It's really starting to feel more like a collectible that focuses more on exclusivity and the top people, and less and less about growing a playerbase.
@@xSnarfsx yeah 100%, seeming sketchier and sketchier as it goes on and if they keep on going in this direction it's not going to gain popularity in the right areas, so it'll decline.
Hot take, the first priority for a card game should never be investors. Having a game that’s 3 yrs old and having boxes of product that’s several thousand dollars is just exclusionary to new players. If a card game dies bc no one plays the prices plummet anyhow.
I just don’t care anymore. I’ll continue to play and go down (or up) with the ship… All I heard in this video was angry Rudy rambling along with me getting a free Timmy extra bonus alternate showcase bordered surprise here in the next couple months for my blind loyalty to this channel and FAB… can’t wait!!!
From a community builder and semi competitive player I love the 2.0 announcements! Most of our players started with or after TOA so they don’t care about “getting fancy cards” they want to be able to buy a CnC and the Tunic so they can play. Every one locally is super exited and this will grow our community even more!
It's interesting to see this FaB social bubble with the pure collectors, cause my social bubble, the weekly Armory players and Pro Quest grinders, are so high on FaB 2.0. I had to actually try hard to find people who weren't incredibly happy with the announcement.
Yeah, I didn’t know there was any negative reaction from anyone until this video. But I’m only a player so I pretty much benefit from everything they announced. I think in the long term, collectors will benefit, too, though. Just collectible cards will get expensive, not necessarily the boxes themselves
From what I could gather after the 2.0 announcement: the people who actually play the game are delighted, the rest is saying FAB is dead 'cause they can't make quick money with it anymore 🤷🏻♀️ I love FAB 2.0 and I'm excited for it. James is right, 1ed and unlimited was not sustainable anymore, so props to him for actually going ahead and making ballsy decisions. I'm in here for the long run and all the upset timmys are welcome to leave 👋🏻
I mean, this is exactly how I feel about how Monarch was distributed. It was BULLSHIT. It was so damn hard to get the 1st edition and most scrambled to get whatever was available. With this world wide release I was ready and wanted to make positions in 1st Ed so I bought from wherever I could. When the distribution failed to actually sell the product it betrayed LSS, James , LGS, content creators, investors, collectors and the FUCKING players. No one walked away happy and that’s a shame because I love Monarch as it is an amazing set. So some ASSHAT that runs a few warehouses with forklifts, shelving and maybe a water cooler got to eat their steak dinner after duping the FAB community and guess what? Party’s over. Go get em James and Rudy, keep up the good work!
So I opened my boxes of CRU/MON/TOA unlimited when I say the prices crash to $65/box like 6months ago. 1 case of each. I did get 2 fabled and 6 Legendary from among them. But I cracked to make decks with the cards as its a fun change-up from Mtg. I do still have 5 cases of WTR/ARC unlimited and will probably snag a case of CRU unlimited to sit on. The risk of $75/box isn't bad, I've spent $300 in gas boating in a day (pre-2020 gas prices). The upside is that if it succeeds with FAB 2.0 then win, as they'll stay or rise in price. If not, well for $75 I got a box of an enjoyable game to still use for a draft night w/ friends.
I look at TCGs and say that when you look at the MTG/Pokemon and others that succeed long term: The value of a box is partially driven by that 'dude! its a new set, we gotta try this, it looks awesome'; the other 1/2 is the fact that either the uncommons are super useful but not broken (mechanics) and the rare/mythics have a good number that are powerful and (that'd be great to have in the deck) which helps keep that initial EV for the box up. Afterwards if the cards aren't reprinted to oblivion, then the box value is going to multiple compared to expected EV of the cards. AT the same time you HAVE TO control power creep. MTG hasn't and that is arguably the issue since like Hours: not as much the multiple variants (which is bad tho). You have to try avoiding the current MtG trend of 1/3 of your rare/mythics get banned before rotating out because of broken/OP abilities and unchecked power creep.
Honestly I'm feeling very positive woth FAB. They are doing what I thought they would do and then some to address issues. I've seen a ton of positivity and some negativity, but the negativity comes from people who just do quick flips. They don't even know how to play the game. New faces will enter and will care more for the game. Stay the course.
Very good video. Heavily interested in the longevity of FaB so watched it all. I had a different take on 2.0, and think the majority of the FaB community did too. I actually think everything discussed in that article is good. Sure looking back to a Monarch print run of 125k you might think mistakes were made, but realistically the game was growing exponentially even despite a pandemic so I'm sure they thought, "let's make sure we print enough to meet demand." I think having too little product might have done worse for the game in general than by having too much, as evidenced by the rise in box prices AFTER the print run was detailed. Kudos to LSS for being such a transparent company.
So sabatosh the first edition print run with too high of number instead of having the mon-everfest block at 75k-80k displays per set then saying once everfest is open that they are moving to a new model makes sense for fabs longevity???
@@tysnow9524 yeah have to agree with you. This gave the appearance of transparency but really just shows how much LSS was lying. I mean did they just now realize the print runs are being so much larger or that 1st edition boxes were going away (conveniently after they distributed the final ‘special’ 1st Ed set like you mentioned)? They have lost my trust as a collector, but I get that if I was a player and actually liked the game then I would go out of my way to see the glass as half full here and try to not think the company is shady.
Agree, most people think they are entitled to knowing every single morsel of data the company is processing as well, i'm still trying to remember when MTG or Pokemon disclosed anything meaningful about print runs and rarities... its now been 30 years... :). The distributor's aka CFB and Team Covenant really betrayed LSS as a smaller game they just did what they wanted vs what was best for the market.
@@zacharyzuniga1599 I have to disagree with you. I don't think the utterly absurd growth of the game between CoW and Monarch could've been predicted by the company, especially when predictions on everything were far lower than normal due to the last 2 years of political corruption and nonsense. It seems they reacted simply to meet the ridiculous demand for the game. As for Tales of Aria and Everfest, sure, they could've announced things a bit sooner, but the decisions made in FaB 2.0 would've taken the company at least a year to work out and decide on and I think pre-emptively announcing stuff without having a clear path forward and solution to the problem would've been a worse decision.
@@Bumbum_Inspector LSS stated there would not be power creep and that first edition was for collectors. I think they have not done a good job keeping their promises. Do you disagree with this?
I backed up the truck on fab after this video. Getting first edition boxes for 70-80 bucks on recent first edition boxes, monarch at 150 seems like a long term no brainer. If the game survives these will be the golden age boxes. I am actually pretty excited too about pve format as I really like collaborative games. I was a buyer of the rudy drops and also have few regrets. I'm getting a chance now to reduce my cost basis on a quality product that others are dismissing in the short term.
There is a detail in Rudy's speech. I think he is incorrect in this: there isn't enought unlimited worldwide (distributors having empty stock) and that's why we need more needed cards to circulation.
I don't really have a dog in the race (only a couple of unlimited Arcane Rising and Monarch boxes that I'm still waiting to play with friends at some point), but I must say I can get behind the approach of the company in prioritzing accessibility to the game pieces while not damaging those who bought the first printing(s) of the product. The idea of making reprints look worse while functionally identical I find an interesting way to tackle the issue. And the PVE is a cool idea and a bet to further differentiate the game in the TGC market.
The whole idea was to follow 1993 Magic and James was aiming to recreate that model. Guess what, this is exactly what happened the step after Legends was to over print. Exactly what is happening to FAB. So as the saying goes 'The more things change, the more they stay the same.' Like seriously. I'm surprised your guys are surprised. shocked pikachu face.
Ah yes, the MTG set after Legends was The Dark. It was everywhere in every store, and it was horrible. Horrible value, horrible art (compared to Legends), horrible gameplay. Burt even as bad as The Dark was, MTG still had a Fallen Empires ahead of it. How did MTG ever survive?
@@JimboSkinner It was bought by Hasbro and got deeper pockets as a result. LSS got a very low % of the money made from FAB early on as it was all secondary market boom.
@@JimboSkinner Dark was a good set. It was popular even during release. Fallen Empires is where the wheels fell off. Prior, LGS would have to order exponentially more boxes then they needed just to get enough for their store. So they did the same with Fallen Empires. Problem was Fallen Empire was printed to infinite and beyond and all those over inflated orders were filled.
In my LGS, Bega, Australia, people play a lot of Flesh and Blood. It has taken the position of MTG standard, My little brain and wallet could not keep up with Standard, to many new cards and quick rotation. The average player at my LGS, has a job and other responsibilitys, the gaming is a hobby and social experience. Flesh and Blood has less new cards and reprinting old ones people know at a reduced price is good for kids with limited finances, and older brains running short of RAM. Whales still get there super rare shinny cards but get to play against players with competetive decks, they need somewere to flex. Parents like Mysealf who take their kids to in-store events, want a play experience that is affordable and the kids don't get slaughtered by pay to win customers. I am inspired by this vid Rudy It encourages me to want to keep playing Flesh and Blood, the model might make it a fun long term play experience with a digestible level of new cards and cheap old cards. And the multiplayer future sounds fun.
I liked what I read in the FaB 2.0 article, and I will be honest. I heard a bunch of bullshit sounding things from reasonable people as well as reasonable sounding things from bullshitting people, I'm confindent that I can tell that James White a reasonable person and the shit says is just makes sense. This guy delivered, delivers, don't care about big money, but their constumers. And if one thing is fucking sure in every industry is that this is the winning strategy.
Hey Rudy. Always loved watching you. Just now coming back. Still Lve you . you helped me so much man. I owe you so much.I really do and my family does as well. Thank you for everything you ever taught me and told me. Thank you man. I love you/ we love you. Please be safe/ be careful. We all know how humans can act/be. Love you deerly
Well, i heard about this video from some mutual friends. I think what LSS is doing is great with Flesh and Blood 2.0. It's a shame that the distribution network didn't perform very honestly, and also a shame that some of the larger merchants were playing investor. I was surprised at some of the stock that was available and bought some myself to average my basis out. I have a 225 case position now of Monarch with a cost basis of 690 on average. I will continue to buy the first editions's moving forward but with more of an eye for a discounted box/cases. I will be wary about pre releases and pre orders... to me that is the smart thing to do, to minimize the basis. I will then observe the new behavior on this new set and pivot my behavior accordingly. I still maintain a monster position, and have sold 0. Someday maybe ill submit a video to Rudy showing him the horde :). I'm loving the vision of James White, it aligns with my own ethos. Sincerely, Whale Dale
There is a lot of negativity around Flesh and Blood, but thanks to you pushing this game I was able to build my channel around it and earn a decent monthly income. It is still far from livable (currently around 500 a month), but it shows the market is there. I did MTG content for over a year and was only losing money, I did FAB for over a year, I'm making money. On top of that, I keep an eye on the game's growth and in the past 3 months we've seen an increase of around 10% in competitive players, so if that trend continues, we might end up with around 60k players in no time. At that point a 125k print run is nothing.
Take the professors advice and buy singles. Aside from the equipment, most decks are cheap as all get out because the product is printed into oblivion once unlimited is taken into account. Even the majority of majestics can be had for around $2-5. Just gotta be smart, not trying to get lucky with a box. Also, a box is the worst thing you can do aside from as an investment. Boxes have like $40 EV attached to them. Hell of a lot less than the cost of the box
Dude, that was a fucking journey. Happy to be on this road with ya man! Flesh and Blood introduced me to this Patreon and you, and it's been great. Keep on keepin on, and if we don't all get rich, it's been a blast either way.
I still love the game and will continue to play the heck out of it. The only thing that this 2.0 changes for me is I'll probably open less product. I buy a lot of boxes/cases of first edition. Idk how much I'll open going forward... Will have to see I guess. Very likely will just buy singles I want.
I'm so happy they got rid of First edition. Loving my 1st edition and unlimited, true history in the making. Players can now be happy and investers hold on to those 1st editions and 125k for Monarch 1st edition before you know it they will be gone. Wow it's crazy to keep repeating 1st edition Monarch never to be seen again 💥💥💥💙
It's kinda crazy, I've been watching your content for about 4 years and some change. But the thing is, I have never bought or owned any MTG, FAB or any other cardboard. I should have but I just never did, still just love the content like this and it's always nice to hear from you and get a gage of how the antiquities market is doing. Thanks for all the Tacos
Investors losing profit.. it's all a risk guys.. but thanks to you they have the capital to make the game bigger. And that's what they are trying to do. Expand and make the game even bigger. It's a risk bubble will pop and start to grow again. Paper burns but diamonds last forever...
He spoke for an hour, and I have no idea what his opinion is on anything other than we should continue to buy cardboard.
Stay the course!
Come on now, that's not true, we know he still loves Tacos.
“I knew it was a pump and dump scheme!” screamed the people looking to pump and dump.
Lol so true
Well done.
We need more of these in-depth conversations from Rudy always interesting!
Long explanations are often a sign of deception. Is this one of those instances?
*_*nervous cackle*_*
@@scotthelgert6473 and that is just wrong to say that😊
Depends, im gonna back up the truck, and build an Empire, of Blood & Fleshes, Bones & Craked Bottles, buy up Rudys inventory, and lets sail to the sunset together😎👍🏻
@@boskarvil1570 I don't thinks so condsidering that Rudy is describing what sounds like a pyramid scam and he is still trying to sell people on the game.
imma be honest Long time Lurker This rudy is honestly one of your best videos made on this channel and why i like watching you. I hope you make more videos like this thanks for this magnum opus
So…. Investors who don’t *actually* play the game are mad because they can’t flip boxes/cards straight out of the gate for hundreds of dollars of profit? They’re mad because they can no longer abuse it? This is the world we live in. People are angry because they can no longer abuse something.
As an outsider to FaB, all of this sounds like positive change for the game to me. White border cards in history reprint packs that don’t look as good, but give you cheap access to the cards you need? I wish Dragon Ball Super and Yugioh did that… The multiplayer thing sounds awesome.
Yugioh (TCG) does do that through their annual tin boxes (not the rarity drop but the increase in supply deflates prices) and eventual common reprints in structure decks. The OCG handles it way better because the demographic is different and as a general rule, Japanese companies keep the best stuff for themselves. :P
As a patreon who bought the $999 bundle.. I truly could care less….. Rudy is wrong literally 1 to 2 times out of every 30 product releases…my financial advisors have a way shitier record than that… and they don’t provide the daily comedy
You might need to get some new financial advisors my guy.
@@nathanielreusser5723 I've heard good things about michael reeves' goldfish
Just buy Gamestop. Not financial advice.
The correct phrase is "I couldn't care less".
"I truly could care less" means you care.
You do not have financial advisers you actually pay youre full of shit bubba
Rudy once again, showing he’s a legit dude. Appreciate the detail, the candidness, honesty, appreciate it all.
Please don't ever forget that Rudy is primarily in it for the money. He might share some of his concerns but never all. And not to the extent that he undermines his own practice. Keep that in mind. Always. He has a business to run.
Sounds like those FaB "partners" used their position to become "personal collectors" rather than promote the game by providing supply to the market.
Yep and Fab had plans to intentionally sabatosh 1st edition as well so both factors created the perfect $#!t storm.
Makes me almost think they made 1st edition “less special” intentionally to screw them over. Now they likely are all removed from the distribution system (or negatively impacted in some way) and the removal of the 1st Ed stamp prevents issues like this from happening again while also making Cold Foils better for collectors
Exactly, then they were cash strapped and raced to the bottom. If they just did their job it wouldn't of been so volatile.
Man you looked wrecked
Throwing the unlimited booster box on the ground made me laugh out loud. thank u so much
The history pack white border cards are so u can play without sleeves on the play ground concrete and use a rubber band to hold the deck together 😉😉😉
if they can pull off the PvE thing, that could really open the door for a lot of cool shit. bringing on traditional paper RPG players, and bringing traditional TCG players into that realm, and potentially even further, as well as offering multiple experiences for the new player, seems like an all around win, even if it means nuking the first edition for better longevity and an eventual separation of tiers once the full gameplay meta is established. people just want 10-year-plan results out of 3 years way too often.
The confidence is still gone since lss intentionally sabatosh its first edition print run from mon-everfest instead of keeping the product at 75k-85k throughout then announcing once everfest was oop that the game will be switching to a new model for fab 2.0 instead they printed mon to oblivion to make it not special anymore and piss of the collectors/investors and shake confidence in the game as a whole...
@@scififanman all Johann@a
@@tysnow9524 wut? You should proof read before posting.
@@scififanman Agreed about PVE, I've been waiting for Magic to innovate this for years. If Fab does I'll definitely be checking it out.
@@scififanman For everyone like you who's staying away because they tanked the market, there will be multiple people like me who'll give the game a new look because we don't want a CCG that caters to collectors where the cards cost any significant money.
It's great how one of Rudy's biggest complaints is how new Magic players do not have equity in their collections because they keep getting reprinted and crashing the value. But James's answer of reprinting but making it look WORSE will ensure the players who buy early will have truly rare and sought after cards. It's a really interesting concept. I think FaB will roar back to life with their next product cycle of 3. It's a great time to buy cold foils and sealed first ed for any long-term believer.
It’s a bullshit concept. Magic did it with white border core sets. Some of those core set cards are worth more than the original printing. If this is as tightly printed as they’re claiming, they could be more rare than rainbow foil staples, AND being the only printing in this style…..”ugly” or not that screams collectibility of the product. Odds are it will not have the intended consequences since EVERY store can order it. OR, it will not be a tight print run and we really will have chronicles 2.0
While I don't invest in FaB I am an LGS owner and my player base for FaB is mostly positive about the 2.0 changes. We have no plans to change how much we order due to the 2.0 changes.
Same here, also an LGS owner and the local community was all around happy with every announcement and we feel the game will now truly grow its playerbase now that there's a lower barrier to entry.
@@juanmanuelchairez389 Yep while all these changes might end up being bad for investors. I think they have a high chance of being good for the game overall.
This will tell the tcg world if a purely based players game can support a tcg on their own. The emphasis will be on the players to buy enough to keep the company afloat. This means lgs and the secondary market must see enough sales that allow them to buy and keep product stocked.
As of now, there is no known metric to tell if so. So lets see if the players can keep the game afloat on their own. Im neither a player or investor btw.
@@EpicTubeHD it will be very similar to games like Wiess Schwarz. Most people buy Wiess to build decks and play the game. But a good number of people collect the signed cards ( in 1 - 4 boxes ) and invest in sealed product.
The fact that they are keeping cold foils and making them even more chace will keep some of the collectors and investors around.
HOly crap mann, i haven't an anticipated a video from you in a very long time. Glad it's finally out. ANd i'm so glad it's a long conversation. Got my taco - chalupa extended cold foil chicken tendies to watch the video too.
certain distributors telling people oh...no...we don't have any...but if you get x number of unlimited we might be able to find you some...it's a shame
I am not a FAB player or investor. But to hear a company say they want to move away from investors and aim to put cards in the players hand.. truth be told, I support that. They unfortunately started with evil investors for their start-up (no offense Rudy, I myself am no Saint here either) so this led people to believe that FAB was more for investing then playing.. which is a very ugly thing. Now that I've heard James' side of the story, I want to buy product now and actually try it with friends.. cause I know nothing about the actual card game.
truth when i was first introduced to FaB people told me is was a "rich persons card game" im personally happy with the change going forward and hoping FaB sticks around
dude ever since they announced unlimited sets flesh and blood has clearly been all about affordability
FAB said they wanted to put more cards in the hands of players- but what they have done in getting rid of 1 edition doesn’t make sense as a step to achieve larger production.
The brilliance of Flesh and Blood’s 1st edition and unlimited edition was that both collectors and people who only wanted to play the game had releases specifically catered to themselves. Essentially they have abandon collectors to lump the the equivalent of mtg’s collector boosters into being just regular boosters-
This 100%. There wouldn't need to be a total freakout about the game and its survivability going forward if you believed in its gameplay and how fun it'd be to engage with. It needs to be a game that's involved and has an active playerbase to be successful, otherwise it dies off when something like this happens. You're essentially saying you don't believe in the game if you're not trusting its survivability going forward. I'm not a FAB player or investor myself, either.
@@justinlau1337 yes and you shouldn’t have to spend thousands. I’m not sure what relation what you are saying has to my point however. My point is you don’t need to destroy first edition to increase unlimited’s print run and get everyone the cards they want, while still giving collectors their own product. This is actually going to have the opposite effect- it will be harder to get cards and especially singles now that the value for the cards has plummeted and LGS’s are dropping FAB because their profit margins on the boosters has been burned away.
FAB had an excellent system- why they are tearing it down for no apparent reason baffles me. Just print more unlimited and keep first edition.
My first EVER big purchase from you was that Mon 1st bundle Rudy. At the time, I was thrilled and happy to purchase what I thought was a great bundle for a great price! I'm still here and I still purchase every FAB bundle you have, save for the Gem Keeper simply because I just couldn't afford it at the time. Happy to still be Patron!
I like the game.
Dude, calm down, too much wholesomess in my taco Tuesday TH-cam chat hurts.
😎 amen brother. Got mon 1st and cracked a box. Got a husk and left the other sealed. Still a patron.
Similar story, first big Patreon purchase with Rudy, I did end up opening mine and I continue to buy more :)
Whoa.....is that un uncut sheet for the 2018 Ira decks??? Something tells me Rudy has the only one. Absolutely Amazing!
I wasn’t interested in FaB and now I am. These changes sound cool.
I appreciate your honesty and willingness to take a step back and see both sides. That’s really important. I know people are hurt. Me included. But, the world is volatile and it doesn’t help to be constantly negative. Appreciate you sharing your conversation with James.
Staying the coarse got you this far Rudy. A new format and becoming a real player in this market is bold. Lets see what happens this could be amazing
Last 60 seconds...Rudy's realizing we're off the edge of the map. There's no data... Here, there be monsters!
The first time LSS addressed the public, was indeed the best time they've addressed. Cause they've only addressed something in that manner, ONE TIME in the history of LSS. One of their touting points was "We communitcate with and listen to the community" but that was one of the boldest lies LSS ever told.
Fortnite came out with the an average tower defense game and went unoticed, came out with a battle royale and took over the gaming world.
Are we about to witness the TCG equivalent?
Appreciate your thoughtful response as always. This news makes me like FaB even more.
"Every time I get up, I look at a piece of 'Monarch.'" *hurls booster box onto the floor*
I still love you Rudy! I survived the Tcg sagas of the 90s (Star trek, Star Wars, Pokemon, Wyvern, Mtg, Vampire, L5R, etc). You got to take your hits and keep on trucking.
Haha I still have a few sleeves Star Wars cards. They’re priceless
Yup. Some of those CCG's didn't last more than a couple runs. I was a big Star Wars CCG collector back in the day. It lasted the longest besides Magic and Pokemon and it died out in 2001. That tells you something about the potential lifespan of a CCG if you're not careful/lucky.
I member star trek tcg my bother was Collecting it. God I haven't though about that in such a long time. I'm still sad wyvern failed honestly but it was ahead of its time. With the rise of furry and scales nowadays it would be a smash hit in their community.
@@tysnow9524 Agree. Regarding Wyvern, this is a very strange story in itself. HackandSlash game is trying to revive the game, they sell boxes even in 2022... but the original company, USgames still exist, but refuses to sell the legal rights to produce more expansions but refuse to continue the game themselves...
@@tysnow9524 I am still happy i got my Jean Luc card, worth 2 pennies now days, back in days was on par with unlimited Black lotus!
Great video Rudy! Im still invested and playing FAB myself and really excited to see how the PVE pans out! Thanks for all the info!
We needed those cards for the armoury's and calling's.
I can't belive those greedy channel fire smaugs kept them all for themselves.
Couldn’t afford to buy Monarch back then, still can’t afford to buy at $164.
Commoner maybe for you?
Come'on, Rudy! You still had 1 more monarch box to toss. I laughed so hard when you threw the first one!
The fact is the game is amazing and the art is beautiful. Growing pains are a part of life. To me this is just weeding out the undesirables, the people only in it for free tendies, not the love of the game. I think the moves James made with 2.0 were great. Buy in the dip, buy cheap first edition, buy black border unlimited. Personally I think it's a good move.... but hey, I'm just some timmy on the internet.
Agreed. If prices go down I'll just keep buying. 😄
I'm doubling down on FAB, LSS, and James White
I signed up for your patreon about 2 days before Monarch sale went live.. I was so excited to have a chance at my first ever Flesh & Blood product bundle. I remember messaging you making sure a new patron could even purchase a bundle of a product that was that much in demand. 8pm hit & I've never been so excited to send someone 999$ lol.. Fast forward a year, even throughout all the negativity, I still have these damn boxes. Even though it hurts to look at the price of those boxes, they still bring me joy because I just remember the excitement of taking a big chance on a new product I thought had a lot of potential. I still don't know what I'll do with the boxes in the future but I'll worry about that later.
I've opened boxes from him like just month ago. Get Legendary Light Armor, so I'm not mad at all!
You know it's real when Rudy comes out the gate with the hard Fs.
I feel like the people we lose on this ride are not worthy to carry this game. I came from Keyforge and a company that did nothing to make it work and despite a loyal player base they did nothing with it. Here we have a company that continues to evolve and try to do the right thing for the player, and still care about the chase and collectors if they aren't looking to just flip cards on the spots. I believe that Mr. White is doing everything he can to make his game the best version he can. Part of that is a learning curve, and the other is vision. Both change over time, and I believe in the game. I love it and I hope that things pan out too. Hope to see everyone in NJ for the PT. I will be in the Calling and bringing some spice. Cheers and thanks for the amazing video Senor Rudy.
100% this... He's doing it for the players, and literally every person at the armories I go to were really happy with the announcement. Hopefully this whole event teaches the 'investors' about being greedy.
Well said 👍🏻
powerful stuff Rudy. Thank you for your service. Even through all of this, FaB remains one of the greatest gaming experiences I have ever known.
I would have never touched a flesh-and-blood card if it wasn't for you Rudy I will never look back with negativity there is always highs and lows in life we have to take them as they come I think we all know that some people are just learning.... it's just a fact of life
Speak for yourself, I look back with negativity, I look forward with negativity, and even as we speak I have five other tabs open on reddit and private facebook groups posting negativity at full steam REEEEEEEEEEE
Did they collapse or print into oblivion
Well fucking said, mate. I 💯 agree!
@@CrosswaIk imagine speculating on cardboard so much that you're out 6 figures lol
@@CrosswaIk lmao fools. Hahahahah
A games company actually caring about the game first. How dare they!
@@CrosswaIk do they even have players?
@@CrosswaIk the fact that Metazoo/Mike has released NFTs and keep announcing absolute dogshit like eBay cards and skateboards and regular playing cards and does promos for EVERYTHING... dude, I was into MZ before and have a small collection of it, but damn what an awful awful direction to take the game.
I like the card artworks and have also made money off it, but no more of it for me. Definitition of "leaves a bad taste in my mouth".
@@patrickbateman69420 It's also weird that I haven't seen anyone talk about the like....200k tournament they announced? It's something like that...and only like top 4 get money so the prize is weirdly big and not distributed well. This game went from looking like a cute, fun, casual, nostalgic thing to looking so so sketchy. It's really starting to feel more like a collectible that focuses more on exclusivity and the top people, and less and less about growing a playerbase.
@@xSnarfsx yeah 100%, seeming sketchier and sketchier as it goes on and if they keep on going in this direction it's not going to gain popularity in the right areas, so it'll decline.
FAB 2.0 let’s go!!! Been waiting for Rudy’s thoughts
Too much “F” word on this video which means this is serious conversation
I like long videos on this channel 😎 perfect timing
Dude the emotions in your eyes tells more of a story than your words
So...he speculated, tried to corner the market, got fckd and now is upset?
Me, saving up for a box of unlimited watching how those poor boxes are destroyed.
Was thinking the same thing...
Communication from James White on this one was a home run. Loved the honesty, transparency and passion in the article. Big fan of Fab 2.0
We need Rudy to interview James.
Hot take, the first priority for a card game should never be investors. Having a game that’s 3 yrs old and having boxes of product that’s several thousand dollars is just exclusionary to new players. If a card game dies bc no one plays the prices plummet anyhow.
My take exactly. Hyborian Gates sealed boxes are $13 . . .
This response is almost the exact opposite of the player base. The player feedback is overwhelming positive for this move.
My liege.
However many setbacks you may have faced, you are and always will be the King of Tacos and Magic.
i still dont have/can't afford key cards like C&C and skullcap, i'm all for the history set!
I'm excited. All I see is the game I love is growing, so not going anywhere anytime soon.
Damn, great unfiltered Rudy deep-dive into the FaB news. That PvE announcement sounds very intriguing and could make or break the game...
I don't play FaB but the PvE thing definitely sounds pretty awesome. Interested to see what it is all about.
I just don’t care anymore. I’ll continue to play and go down (or up) with the ship… All I heard in this video was angry Rudy rambling along with me getting a free Timmy extra bonus alternate showcase bordered surprise here in the next couple months for my blind loyalty to this channel and FAB… can’t wait!!!
From a community builder and semi competitive player I love the 2.0 announcements!
Most of our players started with or after TOA so they don’t care about “getting fancy cards” they want to be able to buy a CnC and the Tunic so they can play.
Every one locally is super exited and this will grow our community even more!
It's interesting to see this FaB social bubble with the pure collectors, cause my social bubble, the weekly Armory players and Pro Quest grinders, are so high on FaB 2.0. I had to actually try hard to find people who weren't incredibly happy with the announcement.
Couldn't agree more, everyone i know at my locals(30+ people) are super happy.
Yeah, I didn’t know there was any negative reaction from anyone until this video. But I’m only a player so I pretty much benefit from everything they announced. I think in the long term, collectors will benefit, too, though. Just collectible cards will get expensive, not necessarily the boxes themselves
From what I could gather after the 2.0 announcement: the people who actually play the game are delighted, the rest is saying FAB is dead 'cause they can't make quick money with it anymore 🤷🏻♀️
I love FAB 2.0 and I'm excited for it. James is right, 1ed and unlimited was not sustainable anymore, so props to him for actually going ahead and making ballsy decisions. I'm in here for the long run and all the upset timmys are welcome to leave 👋🏻
The FAB 2.0 article was incredibly forthcoming and I agree with basically all of it
You didnt do anything wrong when you sold the Monarch kits. I still have faith in the game and now is the best time to buy.
I think PVE finally got me on board with FAB. Thanks for the update!
I was hoping one of these long conversations would come out soon
His voice is like a combination of Fergie and jesus
He's wondering about why the pricing moved the way it did. I guess this is one of those sell the rumour, buy the news events.
@@ggdaved4146 I'm not sure about that. But for a long video about a card game I'm not really into, it was good.
A long monologue
@@ggdaved4146 His voice helps me sleep. 😂
As long as FaB is fun to play, it will keep going, and will appreciate in value.
I mean, this is exactly how I feel about how Monarch was distributed. It was BULLSHIT. It was so damn hard to get the 1st edition and most scrambled to get whatever was available. With this world wide release I was ready and wanted to make positions in 1st Ed so I bought from wherever I could. When the distribution failed to actually sell the product it betrayed LSS, James , LGS, content creators, investors, collectors and the FUCKING players. No one walked away happy and that’s a shame because I love Monarch as it is an amazing set. So some ASSHAT that runs a few warehouses with forklifts, shelving and maybe a water cooler got to eat their steak dinner after duping the FAB community and guess what? Party’s over. Go get em James and Rudy, keep up the good work!
So I opened my boxes of CRU/MON/TOA unlimited when I say the prices crash to $65/box like 6months ago. 1 case of each. I did get 2 fabled and 6 Legendary from among them. But I cracked to make decks with the cards as its a fun change-up from Mtg.
I do still have 5 cases of WTR/ARC unlimited and will probably snag a case of CRU unlimited to sit on. The risk of $75/box isn't bad, I've spent $300 in gas boating in a day (pre-2020 gas prices). The upside is that if it succeeds with FAB 2.0 then win, as they'll stay or rise in price. If not, well for $75 I got a box of an enjoyable game to still use for a draft night w/ friends.
I look at TCGs and say that when you look at the MTG/Pokemon and others that succeed long term:
The value of a box is partially driven by that 'dude! its a new set, we gotta try this, it looks awesome'; the other 1/2 is the fact that either the uncommons are super useful but not broken (mechanics) and the rare/mythics have a good number that are powerful and (that'd be great to have in the deck) which helps keep that initial EV for the box up. Afterwards if the cards aren't reprinted to oblivion, then the box value is going to multiple compared to expected EV of the cards.
AT the same time you HAVE TO control power creep. MTG hasn't and that is arguably the issue since like Hours: not as much the multiple variants (which is bad tho). You have to try avoiding the current MtG trend of 1/3 of your rare/mythics get banned before rotating out because of broken/OP abilities and unchecked power creep.
Honestly I'm feeling very positive woth FAB. They are doing what I thought they would do and then some to address issues. I've seen a ton of positivity and some negativity, but the negativity comes from people who just do quick flips. They don't even know how to play the game. New faces will enter and will care more for the game. Stay the course.
PvE FAB will be insane
Very good video. Heavily interested in the longevity of FaB so watched it all. I had a different take on 2.0, and think the majority of the FaB community did too. I actually think everything discussed in that article is good. Sure looking back to a Monarch print run of 125k you might think mistakes were made, but realistically the game was growing exponentially even despite a pandemic so I'm sure they thought, "let's make sure we print enough to meet demand." I think having too little product might have done worse for the game in general than by having too much, as evidenced by the rise in box prices AFTER the print run was detailed. Kudos to LSS for being such a transparent company.
So sabatosh the first edition print run with too high of number instead of having the mon-everfest block at 75k-80k displays per set then saying once everfest is open that they are moving to a new model makes sense for fabs longevity???
@@tysnow9524 yeah have to agree with you. This gave the appearance of transparency but really just shows how much LSS was lying. I mean did they just now realize the print runs are being so much larger or that 1st edition boxes were going away (conveniently after they distributed the final ‘special’ 1st Ed set like you mentioned)? They have lost my trust as a collector, but I get that if I was a player and actually liked the game then I would go out of my way to see the glass as half full here and try to not think the company is shady.
Agree, most people think they are entitled to knowing every single morsel of data the company is processing as well, i'm still trying to remember when MTG or Pokemon disclosed anything meaningful about print runs and rarities... its now been 30 years... :). The distributor's aka CFB and Team Covenant really betrayed LSS as a smaller game they just did what they wanted vs what was best for the market.
@@zacharyzuniga1599 I have to disagree with you. I don't think the utterly absurd growth of the game between CoW and Monarch could've been predicted by the company, especially when predictions on everything were far lower than normal due to the last 2 years of political corruption and nonsense. It seems they reacted simply to meet the ridiculous demand for the game. As for Tales of Aria and Everfest, sure, they could've announced things a bit sooner, but the decisions made in FaB 2.0 would've taken the company at least a year to work out and decide on and I think pre-emptively announcing stuff without having a clear path forward and solution to the problem would've been a worse decision.
@@Bumbum_Inspector LSS stated there would not be power creep and that first edition was for collectors. I think they have not done a good job keeping their promises. Do you disagree with this?
The start of this video freaked me out, ending allayed all my fears, thanks Ruders!
I just deleted a negative post I had no need to post. Time to move on.
Coward.
I love you Rudy. Ups downs everything in between you have taught me so much. I am grateful. Thanks man.
Scared for potential damage in image but proceeds to partner up with metapoo..
I backed up the truck on fab after this video. Getting first edition boxes for 70-80 bucks on recent first edition boxes, monarch at 150 seems like a long term no brainer. If the game survives these will be the golden age boxes. I am actually pretty excited too about pve format as I really like collaborative games. I was a buyer of the rudy drops and also have few regrets. I'm getting a chance now to reduce my cost basis on a quality product that others are dismissing in the short term.
There is a detail in Rudy's speech. I think he is incorrect in this: there isn't enought unlimited worldwide (distributors having empty stock) and that's why we need more needed cards to circulation.
Agree, say Magic has a third of product distribution in USA. FaB has currently half in the USA? Definitely more room for the game to grow in.
Great content Rudy. Watched the whole thing, because I’m also passionate about FAB. Thank you.
35:30 Nervous Laugh Rudy going in my Hall of Fame Playlist LOLOL
I don't really have a dog in the race (only a couple of unlimited Arcane Rising and Monarch boxes that I'm still waiting to play with friends at some point), but I must say I can get behind the approach of the company in prioritzing accessibility to the game pieces while not damaging those who bought the first printing(s) of the product. The idea of making reprints look worse while functionally identical I find an interesting way to tackle the issue. And the PVE is a cool idea and a bet to further differentiate the game in the TGC market.
The whole idea was to follow 1993 Magic and James was aiming to recreate that model. Guess what, this is exactly what happened the step after Legends was to over print. Exactly what is happening to FAB. So as the saying goes 'The more things change, the more they stay the same.' Like seriously. I'm surprised your guys are surprised. shocked pikachu face.
Ah yes, the MTG set after Legends was The Dark. It was everywhere in every store, and it was horrible. Horrible value, horrible art (compared to Legends), horrible gameplay. Burt even as bad as The Dark was, MTG still had a Fallen Empires ahead of it. How did MTG ever survive?
@@JimboSkinner It was bought by Hasbro and got deeper pockets as a result. LSS got a very low % of the money made from FAB early on as it was all secondary market boom.
@@JimboSkinner Dark was a good set. It was popular even during release.
Fallen Empires is where the wheels fell off. Prior, LGS would have to order exponentially more boxes then they needed just to get enough for their store. So they did the same with Fallen Empires. Problem was Fallen Empire was printed to infinite and beyond and all those over inflated orders were filled.
In my LGS, Bega, Australia, people play a lot of Flesh and Blood. It has taken the position of MTG standard, My little brain and wallet could not keep up with Standard, to many new cards and quick rotation. The average player at my LGS, has a job and other responsibilitys, the gaming is a hobby and social experience. Flesh and Blood has less new cards and reprinting old ones people know at a reduced price is good for kids with limited finances, and older brains running short of RAM. Whales still get there super rare shinny cards but get to play against players with competetive decks, they need somewere to flex. Parents like Mysealf who take their kids to in-store events, want a play experience that is affordable and the kids don't get slaughtered by pay to win customers. I am inspired by this vid Rudy It encourages me to want to keep playing Flesh and Blood, the model might make it a fun long term play experience with a digestible level of new cards and cheap old cards. And the multiplayer future sounds fun.
Great video! I appreciate you, Rudy! Love the nervous laugh!!!
I think a lot of people actually enjoy these videos Rudy. I don't play FaB, but I'm super into the video.
Here we go! This is the one we’ve been waiting for!
I like the way rudy is gonna make the ppl who got burnt a great deal for them to recoup sum of there loses
I liked what I read in the FaB 2.0 article, and I will be honest. I heard a bunch of bullshit sounding things from reasonable people as well as reasonable sounding things from bullshitting people, I'm confindent that I can tell that James White a reasonable person and the shit says is just makes sense. This guy delivered, delivers, don't care about big money, but their constumers. And if one thing is fucking sure in every industry is that this is the winning strategy.
Hey Rudy. Always loved watching you. Just now coming back. Still Lve you . you helped me so much man. I owe you so much.I really do and my family does as well. Thank you for everything you ever taught me and told me. Thank you man. I love you/ we love you. Please be safe/ be careful. We all know how humans can act/be. Love you deerly
Well, i heard about this video from some mutual friends. I think what LSS is doing is great with Flesh and Blood 2.0. It's a shame that the distribution network didn't perform very honestly, and also a shame that some of the larger merchants were playing investor. I was surprised at some of the stock that was available and bought some myself to average my basis out. I have a 225 case position now of Monarch with a cost basis of 690 on average. I will continue to buy the first editions's moving forward but with more of an eye for a discounted box/cases. I will be wary about pre releases and pre orders... to me that is the smart thing to do, to minimize the basis. I will then observe the new behavior on this new set and pivot my behavior accordingly. I still maintain a monster position, and have sold 0. Someday maybe ill submit a video to Rudy showing him the horde :). I'm loving the vision of James White, it aligns with my own ethos. Sincerely, Whale Dale
Really good video. I will probably have to rewatch this to help keep processing the changes.
There is a lot of negativity around Flesh and Blood, but thanks to you pushing this game I was able to build my channel around it and earn a decent monthly income. It is still far from livable (currently around 500 a month), but it shows the market is there. I did MTG content for over a year and was only losing money, I did FAB for over a year, I'm making money. On top of that, I keep an eye on the game's growth and in the past 3 months we've seen an increase of around 10% in competitive players, so if that trend continues, we might end up with around 60k players in no time. At that point a 125k print run is nothing.
Daimond hands everyone! in 25 years those boxes are worth $500k each its first edition beta!
125k boxes isn’t that much in the grand scheme of things rofl lmfao
Problem is, if you want to establish a new card game you can’t have boxes priced at $1000.
You need to get the cards into people’s hands.
Take the professors advice and buy singles. Aside from the equipment, most decks are cheap as all get out because the product is printed into oblivion once unlimited is taken into account. Even the majority of majestics can be had for around $2-5. Just gotta be smart, not trying to get lucky with a box.
Also, a box is the worst thing you can do aside from as an investment. Boxes have like $40 EV attached to them. Hell of a lot less than the cost of the box
Dude, that was a fucking journey. Happy to be on this road with ya man! Flesh and Blood introduced me to this Patreon and you, and it's been great. Keep on keepin on, and if we don't all get rich, it's been a blast either way.
This is one of the best videos you’ve done in a while. Thank you
I still love the game and will continue to play the heck out of it. The only thing that this 2.0 changes for me is I'll probably open less product. I buy a lot of boxes/cases of first edition. Idk how much I'll open going forward... Will have to see I guess. Very likely will just buy singles I want.
To quote Burt Gummer, "I feel like I was denied need to know information"! Good video Rudy!
I'm so happy they got rid of First edition. Loving my 1st edition and unlimited, true history in the making. Players can now be happy and investers hold on to those 1st editions and 125k for Monarch 1st edition before you know it they will be gone. Wow it's crazy to keep repeating 1st edition Monarch never to be seen again 💥💥💥💙
The uncut Ira deck sheet is sick! Also. This is the best Rudy video ever.
This may be controversial but...
I love your content Rudy👍
At first i thought we were playing connect 4 from the chair.
It's kinda crazy, I've been watching your content for about 4 years and some change. But the thing is, I have never bought or owned any MTG, FAB or any other cardboard. I should have but I just never did, still just love the content like this and it's always nice to hear from you and get a gage of how the antiquities market is doing. Thanks for all the Tacos
wtf!?
Investors losing profit.. it's all a risk guys.. but thanks to you they have the capital to make the game bigger. And that's what they are trying to do. Expand and make the game even bigger. It's a risk bubble will pop and start to grow again. Paper burns but diamonds last forever...
Rudy is the truth I wish I could become a patron
Monarch 1st is overprinted!!!
!remindme 10 years