Thank you Lars, as always, you are an inspiration. Personally I have gone from " what the hell is going on, this is impossible!" to " yes,can do that" and I credit your easy going teaching style with this. I owe you a beer or two!
Lars, I remember almost 40 years ago using a drafting board and T square to draw a rib in class as part of required training as an aircraft mechanic. The idea being if someone brought an airplane to your shop that had damage of some sort that required a replacement rib you could make a pattern. Airfoil shapes are simply X, Y plots. I never did, and the technique would back then more easily apply to a rib made of small wooden components. After school I went on to work on airliners for awhile where "sheet metal" repair was left to gurus of the craft. However.... I am currently involve in amature/homebult airplane projects and the use of things like Fusion/ CNC/ 3D printing for ribs, cowlings etc. are opening up capabilities, possibilities like never before for individuals....... Thanks for your presentations, Bil
Hi Lars, a lot intersting method, Can I ask you, how could I get the cutting pattern of every single rib. I´m a Scale Rc Airplane Modeler and you can imagine how much I´ll appreciate that. Best regards.
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you should consider skin thickness from the OML with an offset value. And rib & flange thicknesses should be given as parameters that can be changed without going into the sketch. flange height should be calculated according to the number of rows and diameters of the fasteners that'll be used. And many more detail :) but a practical approach you did, congrats :)
Is there a way to define one rib section, complete with all its cutouts and such, and then "loft" it through the airfoil so you get the entire set of ribs, each sized proportionately for its position along the wing? THAT would be really helpful, not just for ribs of a wing but lots of other situations where one part needs multiple, slightly different-sized, components.
Hi Lars, love watching you tutorials pretty much everything I know about fusion is from watching your vids. just wondering for the cut outs in the ribs would it be possible to do two sketches on the outer most planes and do a loft to cut through all the ribs? is it possible to cut through them all using a loft command. Thank you for spending your time to help all of us out here learn how to use this awesome tool.
Yes it is. Tested it out just a minute ago. Also, instead of offset planes, you can do solid block and pattern that, and then loft/intersect those also instead of splitting bodies.
Generally since Ribs are made of sheet metal I just use the shell command to match the the thickness of the aluminum. I modeled a few experimental airplanes in Inventor to do simulation in ANSYS way back before F360 was around. However I am sure the same strategy would work well in F360. Now if only Frame Generator existed in F360.
It's not as good as idea as one would think on first glance. Wing ribs are stamped or hammered into shape, not really folded. I have tried it in Inventor which has more sheet metal functions then F360, it really did not give any real benefits in the modeling workflow. Also you can not select curves for folds in F360 which makes sheet metal work flow not that useful in this scenario.
Great video thanks a lot for this tutorial. What I am interested in is how to add these stabiliser bars to the other ribs without spending too much time on it. I am asking this because I want to create a wing for a model plane and 3d print the hole wing. This means i need a thin surface and inside a lot of stabiliser bars otherwise it would be not solid enaught. So compared to your video I do not want to create ribs at all just those stabilizers.
Hi Lars, I assemble flaps, ailerons and also full wings (Piper Cub Style) for a living. I have a metric TON of pictures for different styles of ribs if you want more info.
a mi me sirvio este video , claro realmente no es para un avion debe terner mucha ciencia... pero hay tantos perfiles aerodinamicos que sirven como por ejemplo para una turbina eolica autogenerador , gracias por el video.
I have the latest ver of Fusion and while trying to do the boundary fill after selecting the faces as you do then when I press "select cells" my screen goes blank and nothing fills back in!!
Lars Christensen, it's quite alright. Would be their loss, not yours... I was an aviation maintainer in the Navy, which is the only reason I mentioned.
Yep seen most of your video's, its with your help we start making chips next week.... i did try this but compressors for turbos are more complex www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinugawa-Billet-Compressor-Wheel-Fits-Holset-HX82-116-5-141-mm-8-8-blades/132587609868?epid=2157091544&hash=item1eded65f0c:g:O8gAAOSw8Zha1q1S
This was interesting. Thank you for taking this on. I am trying to learn to trace vintage plans for free flight vintage model airplanes from the thirties through the mid sixties in particular. There is a website with thousands of free plans fir download callled Outerzone. There was a master draftsmen and designer named Frank Zaic who published a beautiful series of model aeronautical yearbooks which featured all sorts of three view drawings submitted from around the world and of varying detail and accuracy. It would be interesting to see your approach for importing top and side view drawings into Fusion for tracing. Some drawings are quite accurate while others are in slight conflict between top and side views. Using actual airfoil ordinates is definitely my preference when given the chance- I look forward to the previous video. Thank you and enjoy your weekend.
Lars, that'd be great. I would request using 2D drawings which have been hand drawn. Typically, they don't always line up perfectly, they require compromise. Covering that particular element would be a bonus for me at least.
Hi Lars, I live and work in Australia. Visited your website and was sort of disappointed to know that you are not willing to take any paid work. However, I thought I should tell you my problem to seek help. I am not able to find any useful tutorial on TH-cam that describes how to create a quadcopter using Fusion 360. I am trying to learn how to design DJI Mavic 2 pro in Fusion 360. I work in the health industry and have nothing to do with fusion360 professionally but a few years ago I fell in love with 3D modelling. I want to learn it for fun. Would you be happy to help? Kindly let me know otherwise.
Don't know if you'll see this message or not. Hoping you will. I'm a new subscriber and love your videos. There very informative and I'm very thankful for them. I've seen on the fusion 360 website that you can get the program for free as a hobbies. I was wondering if you have any information on how to do this. If not that's fine but I figured if anyone would know you might thanks again
Hi Ben Underwood Thank you for watching! Yes, easy enough! Download the 30 day trial. After it installs, you will see there is a counter at the top of the window inside Fusion. This one will count down from 30 days. Click it and you can change from a 30 day trial to a hobbyist license. Best, Lars
You can get it essentially for free if you get it as "Startup Company". I don't think that it's totally, fully functional, but it's good enough for doing a lot of learning. You'll have to look around on their downloads page to find that option.
Thank you Lars, as always, you are an inspiration. Personally I have gone from " what the hell is going on, this is impossible!" to " yes,can do that" and I credit your easy going teaching style with this. I owe you a beer or two!
Lars,
I remember almost 40 years ago using a drafting board and T square to draw a rib in class as part of required training as an aircraft mechanic. The idea being if someone brought an airplane to your shop that had damage of some sort that required a replacement rib you could make a pattern. Airfoil shapes are simply X, Y plots. I never did, and the technique would back then more easily apply to a rib made of small wooden components. After school I went on to work on airliners for awhile where "sheet metal" repair was left to gurus of the craft.
However.... I am currently involve in amature/homebult airplane projects and the use of things like Fusion/ CNC/ 3D printing for ribs, cowlings etc. are opening up capabilities, possibilities like never before for individuals.......
Thanks for your presentations,
Bil
That is awesome to hear bil k .Thank you for watching the videos
Very interesting, thank you for your videos! Getting to know new stuff in Fusion every day!
As ever a great tutorial Lars, learned so much, if only I could remember it! :-)
That is awesome to hear Andy W .Thank you for watching the videos
hi! is there any method, after the extrude part, to apply these procedure to all of the ribs?
Watching in 2020, thank you for this Lars.
Superbly explained, I could do it side by side. Thank you
A great tutorial. For those making actual wing ribs remember to put in the holes for the spars.
Hi Hyss Thank you for watching!
Thank you for this video. It is supportive and useful in designing airfoil.
I've learned a lot from watching your videos. Thanks for another good one.
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!
I'm in a hail storm so had to stop under a shelter to watch you!
lol, be careful!!
fantastic video. Thank you. Very useful, and I like your approach to be lazy, and keep the repetitive work to a minimum!!
I can't help but wonder what the ribs would look like if you used that "G" button... could be really interesting! Loved the video!
Hi Dave Milunic Thank you for watching!
lol, I might have to try that! Thanks
Is it just me or is it cute that Lars says Alunimum? :D awesome video, best channel to be subscribed to
Hi Tarek Knanneh Thank you for watching!
lol, dang language :-)
Hi Lars, a lot intersting method,
Can I ask you, how could I get the cutting pattern of every single rib. I´m a Scale Rc Airplane Modeler and you can imagine how much I´ll appreciate that.
Best regards.
you should consider skin thickness from the OML with an offset value. And rib & flange thicknesses should be given as parameters that can be changed without going into the sketch. flange height should be calculated according to the number of rows and diameters of the fasteners that'll be used. And many more detail :) but a practical approach you did, congrats :)
what is that machine in the background to the left?
Is there a way to define one rib section, complete with all its cutouts and such, and then "loft" it through the airfoil so you get the entire set of ribs, each sized proportionately for its position along the wing? THAT would be really helpful, not just for ribs of a wing but lots of other situations where one part needs multiple, slightly different-sized, components.
Hi Roger Garrett Thank you for watching!
My first thought was scaling, but using parameters might be the trick :-)
When you're trying to teach people how to use a neat design tool but end up getting a moist mouth 9:17
fantastic video - thank you!
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!
Hi Lars, love watching you tutorials pretty much everything I know about fusion is from watching your vids. just wondering for the cut outs in the ribs would it be possible to do two sketches on the outer most planes and do a loft to cut through all the ribs? is it possible to cut through them all using a loft command. Thank you for spending your time to help all of us out here learn how to use this awesome tool.
Yes it is. Tested it out just a minute ago. Also, instead of offset planes, you can do solid block and pattern that, and then loft/intersect those also instead of splitting bodies.
Great answer Harri!
Thank you for watching guys!
Generally since Ribs are made of sheet metal I just use the shell command to match the the thickness of the aluminum. I modeled a few experimental airplanes in Inventor to do simulation in ANSYS way back before F360 was around. However I am sure the same strategy would work well in F360. Now if only Frame Generator existed in F360.
You can use the sheet folding workflow in Fusion now.
Hi OahuPilot Thank you for watching!
I would love Frame Generator in FUsion :-)
It's not as good as idea as one would think on first glance. Wing ribs are stamped or hammered into shape, not really folded. I have tried it in Inventor which has more sheet metal functions then F360, it really did not give any real benefits in the modeling workflow. Also you can not select curves for folds in F360 which makes sheet metal work flow not that useful in this scenario.
How would you repeat for remaining 6 outboard ribs with the holes to make more easy peasey?
You could sketch the cut out holes on the first and last rib and then loft cut through all. A year late, sorry. 😊
Great video thanks a lot for this tutorial. What I am interested in is how to add these stabiliser bars to the other ribs without spending too much time on it. I am asking this because I want to create a wing for a model plane and 3d print the hole wing. This means i need a thin surface and inside a lot of stabiliser bars otherwise it would be not solid enaught.
So compared to your video I do not want to create ribs at all just those stabilizers.
You are so very welcome :-) Thank you for watching!
I will need to gain some aviation knowledge to know exactly what you are looking for :-)
saving my life
Hi Lars,
I assemble flaps, ailerons and also full wings (Piper Cub Style) for a living.
I have a metric TON of pictures for different styles of ribs if you want more info.
Hi Ryan Kirk Thank you for watching!
I am not sure I dare to venture to much further down this road :-) Before you know it I want my pilot license :-)
a mi me sirvio este video , claro realmente no es para un avion debe terner mucha ciencia... pero hay tantos perfiles aerodinamicos que sirven como por ejemplo para una turbina eolica autogenerador , gracias por el video.
I loved this vid thanx.
This will really be handy when I'm trying to make my paper model of an airplane.
Can you share a live session of making spars in it too
I have the latest ver of Fusion and while trying to do the boundary fill after selecting the faces as you do then when I press "select cells" my screen goes blank and nothing fills back in!!
Facing the same issue! :/ Did you find a solution yet?
Hi, it looks like you have to select rib's and airfoil plane too .Not only ribs planes. I hope it will help.
The "spar" carries the load(transfers) to the fuselage.
One thing I noticed was that there was no place for a fuel cell in the wings. Also, maybe plan for wingtip lights, slats, flaps, and ailerons.
Hi Tharonous West Thank you for watching! Yes, I don't think I am getting any design position at Boing soon :-)
Lars Christensen, it's quite alright. Would be their loss, not yours... I was an aviation maintainer in the Navy, which is the only reason I mentioned.
any chance you mite do a turbo compressor wheel, would help me lots with jet engine design
Hi Andy Morris Thank you for watching!
Did you see this video:
th-cam.com/video/EDoPMN2QnhE/w-d-xo.html
BEst,
Lars
Yep seen most of your video's, its with your help we start making chips next week.... i did try this but compressors for turbos are more complex www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kinugawa-Billet-Compressor-Wheel-Fits-Holset-HX82-116-5-141-mm-8-8-blades/132587609868?epid=2157091544&hash=item1eded65f0c:g:O8gAAOSw8Zha1q1S
I have to create spars in it too
Can you help
This was interesting. Thank you for taking this on. I am trying to learn to trace vintage plans for free flight vintage model airplanes from the thirties through the mid sixties in particular.
There is a website with thousands of free plans fir download callled Outerzone. There was a master draftsmen and designer named Frank Zaic who published a beautiful series of model aeronautical yearbooks which featured all sorts of three view drawings submitted from around the world and of varying detail and accuracy.
It would be interesting to see your approach for importing top and side view drawings into Fusion for tracing.
Some drawings are quite accurate while others are in slight conflict between top and side views.
Using actual airfoil ordinates is definitely my preference when given the chance- I look forward to the previous video. Thank you and enjoy your weekend.
Hi Robert Vander Voort Thank you for watching!
Yes, I need to do a video where I bring in 2D drawings with different views.
Have a great weekend!
Lars, that'd be great. I would request using 2D drawings which have been hand drawn. Typically, they don't always line up perfectly, they require compromise. Covering that particular element would be a bonus for me at least.
I find it harder to draw anything in Fusion360, Autocad is easy. Tried a couple of times and only get frustrated.
mine doesnt have "patch" tools or whatever.
Hi Lars, I live and work in Australia. Visited your website and was sort of disappointed to know that you are not willing to take any paid work. However, I thought I should tell you my problem to seek help. I am not able to find any useful tutorial on TH-cam that describes how to create a quadcopter using Fusion 360. I am trying to learn how to design DJI Mavic 2 pro in Fusion 360. I work in the health industry and have nothing to do with fusion360 professionally but a few years ago I fell in love with 3D modelling. I want to learn it for fun. Would you be happy to help? Kindly let me know otherwise.
Alright what are we making here. An airplane or an offset plane?
Are You a modeller?( Do You build aircraft?)
No he does not. He admits at the beginning that he knows nothing about aircraft.
Laser cnc ???
ty best tutorial
Laris Christensen thank you very much Please tell me how wont to jet engine
Don't know if you'll see this message or not. Hoping you will. I'm a new subscriber and love your videos. There very informative and I'm very thankful for them. I've seen on the fusion 360 website that you can get the program for free as a hobbies. I was wondering if you have any information on how to do this. If not that's fine but I figured if anyone would know you might thanks again
Hi Ben Underwood Thank you for watching!
Yes, easy enough! Download the 30 day trial. After it installs, you will see there is a counter at the top of the window inside Fusion. This one will count down from 30 days. Click it and you can change from a 30 day trial to a hobbyist license.
Best,
Lars
You can get it essentially for free if you get it as "Startup Company". I don't think that it's totally, fully functional, but it's good enough for doing a lot of learning. You'll have to look around on their downloads page to find that option.
Cool !!
Thank you MvdG
162 Livestreams!!!
5 minute problem in half hour 😄 Realy are you lazy?
Mmmmm ribs!!
right!?! :-)
I need help
Me caes mal, por que quiero saber todo lo que tu sabes y no puedo =(
On a project
whew too much talk get to the meat of the subject tyvm
Cwn you make for me a design
Ich wohnen in der Nare auf detroit
Please
What the hell is alunimum? Ha!
:-)
Did you mean AL-loo-min-e-um?
didnt work
Too complicated
I'm sorry.
@@cadcamstuff Could be done much easier
how to do it easily?