When you show maps, it would be helpful if you didn't play videos in the background: It makes it difficult to read them. Also, a little animation showing thrusts and battles would greatly improve the video.
This shows .. Mr Nehru didn't pay attention to Defence needs during his 17 years as PM...while Indian army was not having modern tanks, jets, and no proper infrastructure....listen after 9:15
Lal Bahadur Shastri 's little known repartee to President Gen . Ayub Khan of Pakistan. Gen Ayub was a hurly burly , Sandhurst trained Pathan. Ayub Khan used to feel very superior to Lal Bahadur Shastri Ji 's height. Lal Bahadur Shastri ( around Indo- Pak War of 1965 ) - "Gen Ayub Khan Kahate Hein Ki Yeh Hindustani Kya Ladengey. Yeh Log To Dhoti Pehentey Hain. "Mein Ayub Khan Ko Kehta Hoon - Phir Kya Agar Hum Dhoti Pehentey Hain. MERE JARNAIL TO PATLOON DALATEY HAIN. "
Another of him : Hamare pakistani bhai kehte thay ke nashta Amritsar mein aur dupahar ka khana Dilli mein hoga. Magar hum to abhi datun karne nikle thay, jo Lahore pahunch gaye" .
Failure has a different connotation in Pakistan. The mother of all ironies is Pakistan's "Defence Day" which is celebrated every year on the 6th of September to commemorate its utter DEFEAT in 1965. It's the war where Pak came to take Srinagar but ended up losing Lahore.
how did we lose Lahore? The closest u came to Lahore was BATA factory(which was taken by Indian 3 Jatt battalion) but India even lost that after Pakistani bombardment
@@zt3gaming796 nobody wanted to take lahore bhai ..its called opening a 2nf front ...if pakistan had occupied srinagar ...lahore wud ve been surely taken ...and negotiated
Of course it's defence of Lahore, we reached Lahore they surrendered and begged for peace, country defended successfully, this is the defence policy of Pakistan army.
It is generally believed here that Operation Grand Slam was successful but at the eleventh hour, Yahya Khan took command and messed up the attack. But the information secretary of Ayub Khan, Altaf Gohar, has written in his book, "Ayub Khan" that this operation had failed, and when President realized that, he gave the command to Yahya Khan to wrap up the action. Yahya Khan was actually starting to withdraw troops when the Indians attacked Lahore. I will wait for your comments.
This supposed success caused the conflict to spread into punjab proper and near Lahore. Pak army expected India to only fight on the Kashmir sector across the LOC and IB. Pak armys actios. On a divisional level are well rehersed and executed. But overall there is no clear war goal present in any of the wars. The only victory was Yahya dictatorship and the battlefields near Lahore which are Defense housing Colony 6-8 and Paragon city. So kudos you Pakistani citizens on this glorious achievement of DHAs which was claimed in the name of Grand slam.
no , The Operation Gibraltar went badly. The plan was to infiltrate thousands of troops into Jammu and Kashmir, India in the guise of 'mujahideen', who would carry out sabotage to demoralise the Indian forces and incite the local population to revolt. But the local population did not rise, the infiltrators were quickly identified and the Indian Army began to hunt them down.[19] In addition, the Indian Army moved across the cease-fire line to cut off the Pakistani infiltration routes and captured the Haji Pir pass in Azad Kashmir and some heights in the Kargil sector.[20]
@@sports-pirate There is no confusion about operation Gibraltar. I was asking about operation grand slam. It was launched to capture jummu. Here people believe that it was successful but at the 11th hour commander akhtar Hussain was removed and yahya was brought as commander which jeopardized operation. But Altaf Gohar, a civilion, has written that it was a failure from the beginning that's why yahya was brought to wrap up the whole action. What is the reality.
Time and again IAF has disappointed, be it operation safed sagar or the recent Balakot episode of shooting down own helicopter and also loosing an aircraft. This is ofcourse not the case with our other services, Thankfully!
Thanxs to great Nehru ,who ruled for 17 years..but didn't pay attention to Defence needs...listen at 9:15 onwards..pak were having patton tanks and star fighter, sabre jets, while IAF only gnat and Vampire jets unable to attack in night
Do you know the number of operations conducted by IAF and their heroics They were fighting Sabers with Hunter jets and still manage to defeat them. They downed an F16 with a Mig21 bison. How can you even forget that. IAF is the reason you can sleep in the open sky without worrying.
Lopsided. Using the word IRREGULAR so many times is incorrect, if correct war history is to be told. Each batch of irregulars was trained, armed and lead by Pakistani REGULARS who were wearing civil clothes AS IRREGULARS.
Why , why ?? When anyone narrate Islamic barbarian hypocrisy & invasions They are very carefully, choose words with utmost care 🤔 & prefer just to read out loudly what they have been edited so many times. Is it because of Sar tan se Juda 🤔
Grand Slam should also be seen in light of quality of weapons held by both the forces . Patton tanks vs Centurions , T54,T55 , Centurian tanks and Star Fighters Vs Gnat and ,Hunters.
No mig 21 was there at that time ..gnat and Vampire jets were available which can only work in day time....it shows how Nehru didn't pay attention to Defence needs ..listen at 9:15
India was using T-55s as a fresh procurement in 1971. How did you bring in T-72s here in 1965 lmao? A total of 6 or 7 Mig-21s were here in India in 1965, and weren't used in operations, as they were too fresh & training & tactics development takes time. Pakistan enjoyed technological superiority hands down.
1. Indian Army never seems to have learnt its lessons- it failed to know that the Chinese built a road cutting us out of Aksai Chin in 1949, it could not anticipate Chinese attack in Oct 1962, it failed in 1965 miserably, and in 1999, in Kargil as well as in 2020 in Galwan again!! Every time we are taken by surprise, when as we look back, we come to know that there were enough indications for the Army to anticipate what could go wrong and take adequate precautions. 2. Indian troops cover these grave errors by giving a gallant performance in the battle field and many become martyrs. 3. Hope at least from now on, we do not encounter such failures by the Army.
Praveen Sir,, your choice of topic, explanation makes me listen to you with out any break.. its creating very much interest in knowing the inner details of wars.. thank you for all the work you do
@@nitinsingh9487 keep dreaming… well why didn’t you retaliate on 27/2 when PAF crossed your borders on bombed your territory??? your fighter jets all ran and after your armed forces have been on a spending spree which talks volumes
@@nitinsingh9487 Why shouldn't india become a part of China instead of staying as the absolute irrelevant country that barely wins 2 medals in Olympics? Don't give me nonsense patriotism and emotions, give me actual economic and strategic reason why india becoming a province of China would not be better for indians than it is right now...
Every indian student doesn't know. The whole point is that no one is concerned in schools to teach it , further more most teachers also don't know. I had few teachers who thought the map of india which is shown in our books , that maps international border is LOC and LAC.
You've made it as a series but there is no mention of episode number or sequence to follow. Links get missed somehow. please improve on that and republish again maybe.
It would have been nice if you could dwell and relate the commentary to the maps. You are just showing snapshots of the maps....atleast I did not understand it properly..... Very nice video though.
Hats off to Mr Praveen Swami for a brilliant and objective critique of the 1965 Indo- Pakistan War. Instead of a one sided, jingoistic and coloured presentation, he has pointed out clearly where our enemy did a better job and where we had faltered badly. Thank God, we have traveled far from 1965 and have acquired unquestioned overall superiority over Pakistan.
Maj Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik was most likely replaced because the army top brass didn't want to give credit to a Ahmadi Muslim. This possibility should have been mentioned.
the perilous situation that india faced in 1965 war due to gross incompetence, but the pakistani loss .was the result of underestimating indian resolve to open a new sector, opening up of a new sector in the IB took the pakistanis by surprise and panic the advance on lahore was to relieve the pressure on J&K
Major General Akthar Hussain was an Ahmadi Muslim and this was the only reason why he was replaced by Yahya Khan on strict instructions of Ayub Khan. Don't know how come you missed this point....it's widely known in annals of military history
@@animeshpanda7602 In a big what if scenario. If Major Rinchen's battalion had continued with their advances and cease fire had not been declared in 71 we would not have the need to deploy troops to Siachen at all, probably would have ended up with the entire or half of Baltistan under our control. Thereby denying Pak Army their base camp for any Siachen excursion.
Ya exactly every thing Mr Swami reading is absolutely true and he got information from his own army no wonder why India lost in 1962 i guess indian army sponsor historians were in coma otherwise they would have declared 1962 also victory
I just love the way this guy explains, what a quality journo to be found no place not even comparing to so called any west media also
Well said my friend
Jewel 💎 in crown 👑
Iaf just seem so incompetent
When you show maps, it would be helpful if you didn't play videos in the background: It makes it difficult to read them. Also, a little animation showing thrusts and battles would greatly improve the video.
It sounded like a match between a batsman who cannot bat and a bowler who cannot bowl.No surprises that it ended in a draw.
Lol
Meghdoot force was later rechristened as 9 Para(CDO), lt col megh Singh was the first CO of the unit.
It's sad that I didn't knew about him prior to that
This shows .. Mr Nehru didn't pay attention to Defence needs during his 17 years as PM...while Indian army was not having modern tanks, jets, and no proper infrastructure....listen after 9:15
Thank you Mr Swami. Your succinct explanation and solid research are the reasons why I subscribed to The Print.
Lal Bahadur Shastri 's little known repartee to President Gen . Ayub Khan of Pakistan.
Gen Ayub was a hurly burly , Sandhurst trained Pathan. Ayub Khan used to feel very superior to Lal Bahadur Shastri Ji 's height.
Lal Bahadur Shastri ( around Indo- Pak War of 1965 ) -
"Gen Ayub Khan Kahate Hein Ki Yeh Hindustani Kya Ladengey. Yeh Log To Dhoti Pehentey Hain.
"Mein Ayub Khan Ko Kehta Hoon - Phir Kya Agar Hum Dhoti Pehentey Hain. MERE JARNAIL TO PATLOON DALATEY HAIN. "
Another of him : Hamare pakistani bhai kehte thay ke nashta Amritsar mein aur dupahar ka khana Dilli mein hoga. Magar hum to abhi datun karne nikle thay, jo Lahore pahunch gaye" .
Failure has a different connotation in Pakistan. The mother of all ironies is Pakistan's "Defence Day" which is celebrated every year on the 6th of September to commemorate its utter DEFEAT in 1965. It's the war where Pak came to take Srinagar but ended up losing Lahore.
Thankyou. I chuckled.
Losing lahore wtf are you even blabbering about 😂
how did we lose Lahore? The closest u came to Lahore was BATA factory(which was taken by Indian 3 Jatt battalion) but India even lost that after Pakistani bombardment
@@zt3gaming796 our actual objective was to stop u from taking kashmir and we were successful at that.
@@zt3gaming796 nobody wanted to take lahore bhai ..its called opening a 2nf front ...if pakistan had occupied srinagar ...lahore wud ve been surely taken ...and negotiated
Of course it's defence of Lahore, we reached Lahore they surrendered and begged for peace,
country defended successfully, this is the defence policy of Pakistan army.
Reached Lahore ? Lahore as a district is too big you capture on post outside doesnt mean you captured the city idiot 😂
Akhtar Hussain Malik was an Ahmadi, and it was too much for Pak Army top brass to stomach it.
When religious radicalization go against own interest
Praveen Swami exceeds my expectations...
1947, 1965,1999 , India was not ready..we were caught napping..our politicians never paid attention to Defence needs
Our armed forces chiefs were also napping ...I think it's because we Indians are generally egocentric
It is generally believed here that Operation Grand Slam was successful but at the eleventh hour, Yahya Khan took command and messed up the attack. But the information secretary of Ayub Khan, Altaf Gohar, has written in his book, "Ayub Khan" that this operation had failed, and when President realized that, he gave the command to Yahya Khan to wrap up the action. Yahya Khan was actually starting to withdraw troops when the Indians attacked Lahore.
I will wait for your comments.
yeah it was Becuas gen akhtar malik was an ahmadi and ayub wanted yahya to be the next coas
This supposed success caused the conflict to spread into punjab proper and near Lahore. Pak army expected India to only fight on the Kashmir sector across the LOC and IB. Pak armys actios. On a divisional level are well rehersed and executed. But overall there is no clear war goal present in any of the wars.
The only victory was Yahya dictatorship and the battlefields near Lahore which are Defense housing Colony 6-8 and Paragon city.
So kudos you Pakistani citizens on this glorious achievement of DHAs which was claimed in the name of Grand slam.
no , The Operation Gibraltar went badly. The plan was to infiltrate thousands of troops into Jammu and Kashmir, India in the guise of 'mujahideen', who would carry out sabotage to demoralise the Indian forces and incite the local population to revolt. But the local population did not rise, the infiltrators were quickly identified and the Indian Army began to hunt them down.[19] In addition, the Indian Army moved across the cease-fire line to cut off the Pakistani infiltration routes and captured the Haji Pir pass in Azad Kashmir and some heights in the Kargil sector.[20]
@@sports-pirate There is no confusion about operation Gibraltar. I was asking about operation grand slam. It was launched to capture jummu. Here people believe that it was successful but at the 11th hour commander akhtar Hussain was removed and yahya was brought as commander which jeopardized operation. But Altaf Gohar, a civilion, has written that it was a failure from the beginning that's why yahya was brought to wrap up the whole action. What is the reality.
Brilliant narration and analysis of Operation Grandslam
Time and again IAF has disappointed, be it operation safed sagar or the recent Balakot episode of shooting down own helicopter and also loosing an aircraft. This is ofcourse not the case with our other services, Thankfully!
Thanxs to great Nehru ,who ruled for 17 years..but didn't pay attention to Defence needs...listen at 9:15 onwards..pak were having patton tanks and star fighter, sabre jets, while IAF only gnat and Vampire jets unable to attack in night
Do you know the number of operations conducted by IAF and their heroics
They were fighting Sabers with Hunter jets and still manage to defeat them.
They downed an F16 with a Mig21 bison.
How can you even forget that.
IAF is the reason you can sleep in the open sky without worrying.
This man has unique style of telling history
Where is lakhimpur case news the print
Am I the only one who is in love with Praveen Swami's incredibly beautiful voice? 🥺🥺🥺
Lopsided. Using the word IRREGULAR so many times is incorrect, if correct war history is to be told. Each batch of irregulars was trained, armed and lead by Pakistani REGULARS who were wearing civil clothes AS IRREGULARS.
Why , why ??
When anyone narrate Islamic barbarian hypocrisy & invasions They are very carefully, choose words with utmost care 🤔 & prefer just to read out loudly what they have been edited so many times.
Is it because of Sar tan se Juda 🤔
Pathan dictator ayub Khan tareen lost 1965 war
Beautiful reporting thnx ~~
Grand Slam should also be seen in light of quality of weapons held by both the forces . Patton tanks vs Centurions , T54,T55 , Centurian tanks and Star Fighters Vs Gnat and ,Hunters.
No mig 21 was there at that time ..gnat and Vampire jets were available which can only work in day time....it shows how Nehru didn't pay attention to Defence needs ..listen at 9:15
@@prashant245100 👍👍
T72????....dude this tank entered production in 1969...how could it be with india in 1965
@@nit23sharma 72. done
India was using T-55s as a fresh procurement in 1971. How did you bring in T-72s here in 1965 lmao? A total of 6 or 7 Mig-21s were here in India in 1965, and weren't used in operations, as they were too fresh & training & tactics development takes time.
Pakistan enjoyed technological superiority hands down.
1. Indian Army never seems to have learnt its lessons- it failed to know that the Chinese built a road cutting us out of Aksai Chin in 1949, it could not anticipate Chinese attack in Oct 1962, it failed in 1965 miserably, and in 1999, in Kargil as well as in 2020 in Galwan again!! Every time we are taken by surprise, when as we look back, we come to know that there were enough indications for the Army to anticipate what could go wrong and take adequate precautions. 2. Indian troops cover these grave errors by giving a gallant performance in the battle field and many become martyrs. 3. Hope at least from now on, we do not encounter such failures by the Army.
Remember, Pakistani were equally or more incompetent, they couldn't guess that the Indians will open a 2nd front and that too for Lahore
Nice one.. this is a 3 video series right ??
Wonderful!
Well covered sir.. Kudos to Meghdoot Force!
The delivery is poor Needs to adlib and not read from the script. Soporofic
Excellent narration.
Lucid and comprehensive.
Kudos.
Pakistan starts with a flourish and ends with a whimper!
Maj Gen Mallik was an Ahmedia and that was the reason why he was replaced.
Gen. J N Choudhary was not the competent General we thought he was.
Praveen Sir,, your choice of topic, explanation makes me listen to you with out any break.. its creating very much interest in knowing the inner details of wars.. thank you for all the work you do
Still now after balakot we downed our own helicopter.There seems to be something wrong which our army is still not able to rectify
It’s called incompetence!
@@samhussey7383there is nothing that can't be learned we are improving and this time if we cross ichogil canal will not stop at outskirts of Lahore.
@@nitinsingh9487 keep dreaming… well why didn’t you retaliate on 27/2 when PAF crossed your borders on bombed your territory??? your fighter jets all ran and after your armed forces have been on a spending spree which talks volumes
@@nitinsingh9487
Why shouldn't india become a part of China instead of staying as the absolute irrelevant country that barely wins 2 medals in Olympics?
Don't give me nonsense patriotism and emotions, give me actual economic and strategic reason why india becoming a province of China would not be better for indians than it is right now...
@@ululukululu450 tere naam ke jaisa hi tera dimag bhi hai.Why would India go to any axis?
I love the way you speak Ne Swami, putting emphasis on key words and paragraphs.
Always look forward to hearing from you. 👍
Hi Harvinder,
Hope to see you in comments section more often! Thanks for writing in.
Every indian student doesn't know. The whole point is that no one is concerned in schools to teach it , further more most teachers also don't know. I had few teachers who thought the map of india which is shown in our books , that maps international border is LOC and LAC.
It is just a figure of speech. Our education syllabus is already overloaded and adding in more war history would only make it worse.
You are amazing Praveen
Thanks for not painting a Rossy picture of the war.
It shows we are to much careless even having a Rouge neighbor.
pakistan ka namm na loo tu tati nai ati india main
Kyun tum log commode ho kya
irregular या मुजाहिद्दीन?
Looking forward to Part 3. Loving this short series 👍🏻
Wao !!! what a report !!! I wonder why Indian authors can not write good war fictions when such wonderful material is available !!!!
Mr. Swami , Thank You for the episode which clarifies then actual situation without ambiguity.
You've made it as a series but there is no mention of episode number or sequence to follow. Links get missed somehow. please improve on that and republish again maybe.
Are there any books or other material on the exploits of this meghdut force?
It would have been nice if you could dwell and relate the commentary to the maps. You are just showing snapshots of the maps....atleast I did not understand it properly..... Very nice video though.
Thank you for such an objective narration...
Your post will get more hits from Porkistan. You Seem to be more interested in that .
If Pakistan dares to do any such thing now, they will loose their part of Kashmir too
Abhinandan bhul gya kya
U always nail it Swami
Pakistan is very good at giving dramatic names to all its failed operations .
Hats off to Mr Praveen Swami for a brilliant and objective critique of the 1965 Indo- Pakistan War. Instead of a one sided, jingoistic and coloured presentation, he has pointed out clearly where our enemy did a better job and where we had faltered badly. Thank God, we have traveled far from 1965 and have acquired unquestioned overall superiority over Pakistan.
After the low of 1962 the Indian armys performance in 65 was ok. But let it be known that Indias hero of 1965 war was Lt Gen. Harbaksh Singh
12:06
Aimed at Akhnur, not Chhamb ✌
Praveen should do podcasts as well.
Great research and commentary but poor visuals
boring..he is just reading the script..
@theprint - Great Channel, the only issue is understanding your content is really tough.
Maj Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik was most likely replaced because the army top brass didn't want to give credit to a Ahmadi Muslim. This possibility should have been mentioned.
Most of the Print Articles are demoralizing
Drones(AI) will be effective for infntration.
v interesting narration of operation grand slam .
Thr Ahmadiyya General was replaced. The same people who wanted Pakistan desperately. Now of course made into a non entity.
Thank you for such informative video.
More graphics less reading please
Great informative episode
Absolutely loving this series
Nicely explained
the perilous situation that india faced in 1965 war due to gross incompetence, but the pakistani loss .was the result of underestimating indian resolve to open a new sector, opening up of a new sector in the IB took the pakistanis by surprise and panic the advance on lahore was to relieve the pressure on J&K
Ezcellent .. GENERAL MALIK was an AHMADIYA no way could Pakistan let him take credit for anything.. and yahya the less said the better
Thank you for the nice description of events
Major General Akthar Hussain was an Ahmadi Muslim and this was the only reason why he was replaced by Yahya Khan on strict instructions of Ayub Khan. Don't know how come you missed this point....it's widely known in annals of military history
He managed to capture Chhamb which was returned. Irony is that in '71 another Ahemaddiya captured Chhamb. In response we gained Kargil heights.
@@animeshpanda7602 Also we took a small chunk of Baltistan courtesy of Major Chewang Rinchen.
@@fretted4life these captures helped in '84 for controlling Siachen.
@@animeshpanda7602 In a big what if scenario. If Major Rinchen's battalion had continued with their advances and cease fire had not been declared in 71 we would not have the need to deploy troops to Siachen at all, probably would have ended up with the entire or half of Baltistan under our control. Thereby denying Pak Army their base camp for any Siachen excursion.
@@fretted4life and we could have got access to Afgan and China couldn't have got any Gilgit baltisthan soil
Thanks!
Dear George,
Thank you for supporting our journalism.
Indians movie are like dushman bht zyada hen this show power of Pakistan k salon ki kitni phatti ha,😂
We should not stop till the evil ideology and the state is completely destroyed
Ya exactly every thing Mr Swami reading is absolutely true and he got information from his own army no wonder why India lost in 1962 i guess indian army sponsor historians were in coma otherwise they would have declared 1962 also victory
Yes only dictator army general speaks truth.