Nicely crafted deck. Although personally I have given up on commanders that tell everyone in advance what you're about to do. The people I play with you'd probably end up winning games by copying some big creature on the board, then kill people with copies of that (ever used a kicked Rite of Replication on your opponent's Craterhoof Behemoth? ;) ), because they'll hardly ever let you keep Etrata on the board long enough to swing with her.
I’m looking at building Etrata with some of the gifts she got recently. Mari, Killing Quill and Ravensloft Adventurer give some easy hit counters and Ramses, Assassin Lord straight up ends the game if you kill someone with Etrata. Mirror Box, Lithoform Engine and Sakashima of a Thousands Faces are great additions/backups to key combo pieces too
Especially after how dull the most recent game was. Josh's deck was the only one that actually DID anything, and I might be wrong about this, I haven't watched it in forever, but I don't think the Etrata player even got her out!
Olivia's version is over 400 $ as well, this version is dirt cheap. but she played all the shapeshifters, some are pretty expensive, like Shakashima's Student, its like 26-27 $
Such a good deck! I already ordered most of these parts last week when I pulled Etrata! Didn't think to use the Transmute cards though... Time to dig out my old Dimir cards!
I got here so fast that it wasn't uploaded yet! I've been waiting hours for this!!! I'm quite interested in how you'll toy with Etrata. This will be interesting!
Etrata is one of my win-cons for my Yuriko deck and it's similar to your deck list (lots of clones and flickering triggers). Its pretty hilarious seeing copies of Etrata and Yuriko and just wipe everyone out lol.
Depends on how fast your usual opponents tend to react to stuff. Scepter makes your 1 mana spell a four mana spell, and how sure are you that you get to fire off the scepter more than once? If your answer to that is: "pretty often, because my playgroup doesn't play artifact removal", then go with the scepter.
You basically built this deck almost card for card how I would have built it. I never straight up just hit the Order button on a decklist....but this one will come close. Cannot wait to build this. As usual, amazing video Wedge.
Wedge, you are fantastic. Love your energy. I've rarely been interested in EDH, but this might just get me into it. Looks like a blast. Keep being awesome.
I have been thinking about building a deck around Etrata ever since she was spoiled. Loving this. I'm probably going to go a different route than mirror gallery and copy effects, since I already have a similar idea with Okaun/Zndrsplt and copying them and Krark's Thumb
i know this is a few years old but Why the greaves? the you can't target her with any blink. that stops most of the blink package. if anything switch that out with the cloak yo.
So on this public forum, I'm currently engaged in, everyone is telling me that Conjurers closet doesn't work with Etrada because she goes to the command zone at the end of your combat phase? Does Conjurers Closet actually let you exile her and bring her back without having to return her to the command zone?
One question, how does conjurer closet work with Etrata? Her trigger i think needs to be deal with as soon she hit an oponent and exile a creature. Conjurer's closet is at the end of step, so it does not work right? I imagine the closet is there because the deck is basically full of ETB effects
My version of the deck also runs Voltaic Key. Attack with Etrata, strionic resonator the trigger, respond with voltaic key, untap strionic resonator, copy the etrata trigger again, exile 3 creatures and kill a player stone dead in one combat step. :P
A land you should have mentioned is Hall of the Bandit Lord. Isn't cheap but free haste on a land is very nice in a deck like this : ) Awesome deck Wedge!
I love etrata, a little question, if I don't have mirror gallery, I can clone or target any cloning generating spells the token created by Helm of the Host to make more non legendary etrata tokens, right?
I love this deck but ... are you sure phasing triggers ETB abilities? I notice you called it flicker, but it’s not the same. I think you can still use it to save the commander lady though.
Sweet deck. It could use a couple of extra win conditions though. I know quite a few people that have decks with less than 3 creatures in them and lots of answers.
To get around opponents not playing creatures you can use things like Gilded Drake - steal their best creature/token and give them an Etrata target? True this only works once but...lols. Also Sculpting Steel can be amazing in this deck. Have it copy Strionic for 1 turn kill, Blade of selves for multi strike everyone, etc.
It doesn't work. When the drake gets exiled you own it, not them. Best way to get around it is to animate their artifacts with tezz agent off bolas or karn silver golem type effects. She only exiles creatures but cares about CARDS in exile.
Wedge, I built and played my own version of this deck and attempted to flicker etrata, but was told that because the card text has no spacing you cannot flicker in response to the trigger. Have you had this problem? How do you get around her trigger?
Honestly didnt think that's how ninjtus works but holy hell that's so ridiculous. I won't be building Etrata but i do have a Yuriko that i'm in love with a small etb flicker package so guess who is now going in it as another win con. What's that i hear??? Sweet value yes thank you wedge.
i have an interesting question: i tried this deck in Arena, and "shuffle Etrata in library" trigger can't be responsed or prevented, so after exiling opponent's creature with Hit counter, Etrata is immediately shuffled in library. Is that Arena's problem or Etrata's ability can't be prevented by MTG rules?
Would Aether Vial be a valid choice for this Deck? I have one lying around and think that even without the transmute and ninjutsu creatures there are enough 4 cmc creatures in the deck and converting them to instant speed is never a bad idea or am I wrong? Edit: There are 14 creatures with cmc 4 two of them are used for there ninjutsu/transmute so we are left with 12. One of these 12 is Etrata and if we ninjutsu her it would work. Or am i wrong and oversee some major flaw in my plan?
Looks good and cheap. Some of the expensive cards are extremely good but i think you can do it without them, dont think the deck will lose that much power. I have another card that might be worth it in this deck, Erratic Portal. No idea if it cost a lot but i know i have 1 around so
I dont get how you can flicker her in the middle of the trigger. Wouldnt you have to choose to get the hit counter and shuffle or neither? How can you put something on the stack inbetween one thing. Does each sentence count as a separate trigger?
You don't flicker in the middle of the trigger. You flicker when the trigger goes on the stack. Since the trigger isn't countered by the source just leaving play, making her leave the field makes the second half not exist, as she isn't the to shuffle. The two sentences do matter, but you still can't interrupt the effect. By two sentences, the abilities are seperate from each other. You don't only get the hit counter if she can be shuffled, you get it, then shuffle. Essentially: Trigger goes on stack You cast effect that removes creature Stack goes to resolve Creature removes Creature effect applies Hit counter goes on No chance to interrupt shuffle, since off of field means she can't be shuffled, thus fizzled I hope this clears it up. It's complicated, but once you figure it out, you begin to always see how it works, every time
Well Wedge....I made it.....and boy howdy does this deck make your opponent suuuuuper salty. Played my little brother in a 1v1 against his Shanna, Sissay's Legacy token deck. After nearly losing to Etrata's insta lose ability in the first game, he switched strategies to just play tokens. Let me tell you, Launch the Fleet with a Divine Visitation on the field is a scary situation. Luckily he tried to get rid of my Resonator with a Rec Sage and I was able to clone that to get rid of the Visitation. TL;DR this deck is broken and I think I don't even feel bad for playing with it in my 6 person playgroup that has a Niv Mizzet Parun Storm deck, Krenko mono red deck, Tetsuko deck, Scorpion God Zombie deck, and the aforementioned Shanna token deck. Cannot express enough gratitude for the tips and additions because I was gunna make a deck with her before I saw this video anyway.
I made a standard deck built around getting etrata in the graveyard and then using the new lazav to become etrata and then transform when he would be shuffled
He'd still get shuffled cause him morphing wouldnt remove the ability from the stack and he'd still be linked to the ability as a legal recipient of the effect. He's still the exact same legal permanent cause he never left the board or gained anything that would make him an illegal permanent for the ability while remaining on the board.
@@TheRicanNinja777 no he won't because just like the flicker effect, you can morph him in response to the shuffle trigger making him a different creature, which means that he doesn't have the ability anymore and can't be shuffled
I am impressed. Many comments proven wrong, 9 mana combos = insta-gig... Ahh... Edric smiles! Serious note, most of this is valid tech, but thd haters have a point, creature-lite decks need more attempts. Etrata is definitely Tier 3, a fun Tier 3, but Shu Yun is better and cheaper
actually, for etrata, like elenda you have to let elenda go to the graveyard for her ability to trigger. so with etrata you NEED to let her shuffle away for her trigger to even happed.
I am IN LOVE with this deck. Mirror Gallery is amazing. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do! :)
Wedge is starting to sound like Oprah.
"You get an Etrata, you get an Etrata, EVERYONE GETS AN ETRATA!!!
Hey wedge, why no Asceticism or any hexproof your creatures-effect? would be soooo good to splash in this deck!
Nicely crafted deck. Although personally I have given up on commanders that tell everyone in advance what you're about to do. The people I play with you'd probably end up winning games by copying some big creature on the board, then kill people with copies of that (ever used a kicked Rite of Replication on your opponent's Craterhoof Behemoth? ;) ), because they'll hardly ever let you keep Etrata on the board long enough to swing with her.
Have you actually played with this deck, Wedge?
@@muffZor89 It's a commander deck. You can't splash for colours unless you change commander which would defeat the purpose of building an Etrata deck.
I’m looking at building Etrata with some of the gifts she got recently. Mari, Killing Quill and Ravensloft Adventurer give some easy hit counters and Ramses, Assassin Lord straight up ends the game if you kill someone with Etrata. Mirror Box, Lithoform Engine and Sakashima of a Thousands Faces are great additions/backups to key combo pieces too
the outtakes at the end are actually a super great idea, keep'em from now on Wedge pls? :3
makes him seem like a "real human"
Agreed, it was hilarious 😂
You should get back on Game Knights and play this.
Especially after how dull the most recent game was. Josh's deck was the only one that actually DID anything, and I might be wrong about this, I haven't watched it in forever, but I don't think the Etrata player even got her out!
Olivia's version is over 400 $ as well, this version is dirt cheap. but she played all the shapeshifters, some are pretty expensive, like Shakashima's Student, its like 26-27 $
@@puffin-onehandedgamer1164 i agree, this need to be played, we need to see this and see how it works in real time.
Thank you for adding bloopers at the end- they're amazing lmao
Such a good deck! I already ordered most of these parts last week when I pulled Etrata! Didn't think to use the Transmute cards though... Time to dig out my old Dimir cards!
Honestly, thank you for adding the bloopers at the end. They always bring a smile to my face and make the video more personal.
I want to see an updated version of this
Pleasseee + new assassin's Creed card's and ninjustu 👀👀👀
I got here so fast that it wasn't uploaded yet! I've been waiting hours for this!!! I'm quite interested in how you'll toy with Etrata. This will be interesting!
Etrata is one of my win-cons for my Yuriko deck and it's similar to your deck list (lots of clones and flickering triggers). Its pretty hilarious seeing copies of Etrata and Yuriko and just wipe everyone out lol.
Wedge, I spotted a 1 mana instant speed flicker spell in your list, have you considered Isochron Scepter for your 2 CMC or less instants?
Depends on how fast your usual opponents tend to react to stuff. Scepter makes your 1 mana spell a four mana spell, and how sure are you that you get to fire off the scepter more than once? If your answer to that is: "pretty often, because my playgroup doesn't play artifact removal", then go with the scepter.
Hey Wedge, the bloopers at the end are perfect! Please include them when you have !
I’m glad your back please never leave again
FINALLY, COMMANDER!
I love your deck techs, miss your content, Wedge! Keep up with this good work!
Great videos, and the addition of bloopers at the end really get me. I love it!
Great video and great deck tech Wedge! Covered all the angles I've heard of. Liked for sure!
No. Bad. Bad Wedge! Circumventing the Legend rule. Bad!
Really like the new font for the card prices. They look really nice.
This deck looks awesome, Wedge! And I love the outtakes at the end.
Lmfao the outtakes at the end, I like the addition Wedge
You basically built this deck almost card for card how I would have built it. I never straight up just hit the Order button on a decklist....but this one will come close. Cannot wait to build this. As usual, amazing video Wedge.
As someone who got a foil promo Etrata at prerelease, I am so tempted to build this right now.
Love that you used TMNT art for the background for the ninja creatures.
I love this build. It is out of my budget by a bunch, but that does not kill the awesome.Thank you for outtakes that made my day!
Bruuuuuuuh!!!! Wedge you gotta start including the bloopers in all ur vids. HILARIOUS
Wedge, you are fantastic. Love your energy.
I've rarely been interested in EDH, but this might just get me into it. Looks like a blast.
Keep being awesome.
I have been thinking about building a deck around Etrata ever since she was spoiled. Loving this. I'm probably going to go a different route than mirror gallery and copy effects, since I already have a similar idea with Okaun/Zndrsplt and copying them and Krark's Thumb
I really like the bloopers at the end
A Dimir commander, glad to see things moving in that direction Wedge
i know this is a few years old but Why the greaves? the you can't target her with any blink. that stops most of the blink package. if anything switch that out with the cloak yo.
Phasing does not happen on upkeep, it happens before you untap in your untap phase
I built my Etrata as an assassin theme/tribal. Not always winning with hit counters but controlling the board with constant spot removal.
So on this public forum, I'm currently engaged in, everyone is telling me that Conjurers closet doesn't work with Etrada because she goes to the command zone at the end of your combat phase? Does Conjurers Closet actually let you exile her and bring her back without having to return her to the command zone?
Appreciated the blooper reel at the end XD
Id like to see you play this on game nights or lrr
Great decktech Wedge, I'm super excited to try Etrata out! Love the bloopers. 😋
One question, how does conjurer closet work with Etrata? Her trigger i think needs to be deal with as soon she hit an oponent and exile a creature. Conjurer's closet is at the end of step, so it does not work right? I imagine the closet is there because the deck is basically full of ETB effects
My version of the deck also runs Voltaic Key. Attack with Etrata, strionic resonator the trigger, respond with voltaic key, untap strionic resonator, copy the etrata trigger again, exile 3 creatures and kill a player stone dead in one combat step. :P
A land you should have mentioned is Hall of the Bandit Lord. Isn't cheap but free haste on a land is very nice in a deck like this : ) Awesome deck Wedge!
Hwish you had a list of what cards are in the deck and an "X" mulitiplyer in your description.
I love etrata, a little question, if I don't have mirror gallery, I can clone or target any cloning generating spells the token created by Helm of the Host to make more non legendary etrata tokens, right?
Yes! A deck focused on my fav card from this set.
It’s a little too combo-y for my playstyle, but I still love it. Glad to see someone broke Etrata
Would ninja tribal work for this deck? All the artifacts and tutors you mentioned and sakashima just more ninjas is what I'm wondering
Dude! You just burned me on time! I am about to publish an Etrada EDH Deck Tech on Wednesday! Luckly I tried a control approach :D
I love this deck but ... are you sure phasing triggers ETB abilities? I notice you called it flicker, but it’s not the same. I think you can still use it to save the commander lady though.
1:02 nice little price animation and such
This looks like a fun and very intriguing deck wedge. Great content as always
That's IT ! Wedge broke magic ! :P .... Seriously though nice one man well done !
So question on Mimic vat. if it is destroyed, and i bring it back later, is the exiled card still linked to it?
Sweet deck. It could use a couple of extra win conditions though. I know quite a few people that have decks with less than 3 creatures in them and lots of answers.
To get around opponents not playing creatures you can use things like Gilded Drake - steal their best creature/token and give them an Etrata target? True this only works once but...lols. Also Sculpting Steel can be amazing in this deck. Have it copy Strionic for 1 turn kill, Blade of selves for multi strike everyone, etc.
It doesn't work. When the drake gets exiled you own it, not them. Best way to get around it is to animate their artifacts with tezz agent off bolas or karn silver golem type effects. She only exiles creatures but cares about CARDS in exile.
Thanks Wedge, I am very happy you are back
Wedge, I built and played my own version of this deck and attempted to flicker etrata, but was told that because the card text has no spacing you cannot flicker in response to the trigger. Have you had this problem? How do you get around her trigger?
Please do a Yuriko deck. I like mine, but I'd live to see your take on it seeing how you made a surprising Etrata edh deck!
This is essentially a hipster bad infect deck...I guess I can get behind that
Honestly didnt think that's how ninjtus works but holy hell that's so ridiculous. I won't be building Etrata but i do have a Yuriko that i'm in love with a small etb flicker package so guess who is now going in it as another win con.
What's that i hear??? Sweet value yes thank you wedge.
can sakashima be blocked? because the ability says etrata the silencer cant be blocked
When a card refers to itself by name it basically means "this card". Sakashima would be unblockable if she copied Etrata.
Yes Sakahima copies Etrata but it copies everything on the card. Power/tough and cmc even. That's what most clones do.
always looking for an interesting EDH deck to build maybe i'll give this one a shot.
A deck with Etrata , Mirror Gallery, ninjutsu and phasing? Best EDH deck ever!
i have an interesting question: i tried this deck in Arena, and "shuffle Etrata in library" trigger can't be responsed or prevented, so after exiling opponent's creature with Hit counter, Etrata is immediately shuffled in library. Is that Arena's problem or Etrata's ability can't be prevented by MTG rules?
The imposter can not target a legendary creature as they would both be destroyed right? Returning player so this confuses me.
I should have known that you would be one of the few people in this world to pronounce the name of solemn simulacrum properly! Thank you, Wedge!
your outtakes are great
How do you deal with opponents only playing tokens? Would you play some cards for force your opponents to have creatures?
This was amazing, can you do a list for the new Niv-Mizzet Parun and/or Lazav the Multifarious
Would Aether Vial be a valid choice for this Deck? I have one lying around and think that even without the transmute and ninjutsu creatures there are enough 4 cmc creatures in the deck and converting them to instant speed is never a bad idea or am I wrong?
Edit: There are 14 creatures with cmc 4 two of them are used for there ninjutsu/transmute so we are left with 12. One of these 12 is Etrata and if we ninjutsu her it would work. Or am i wrong and oversee some major flaw in my plan?
Nice deck tech. Keep this up!
Hey wedge you're having a good run! I like all your recent videos. Keep up the good work :)
Love the deck tech and your videos are seriously wicked and funny, keep it up! 👍🙌
Looks good and cheap. Some of the expensive cards are extremely good but i think you can do it without them, dont think the deck will lose that much power. I have another card that might be worth it in this deck, Erratic Portal. No idea if it cost a lot but i know i have 1 around so
does sakashima become unblockerble? as the card dont get the name etrata, and etrata names itself in it's abilitys?
Wedge, Command Beacon is expensive but has to be in this deck. Love the videos.
I love the outtakes they’re hilarious 😂
I dont get how you can flicker her in the middle of the trigger. Wouldnt you have to choose to get the hit counter and shuffle or neither? How can you put something on the stack inbetween one thing. Does each sentence count as a separate trigger?
You don't flicker in the middle of the trigger. You flicker when the trigger goes on the stack. Since the trigger isn't countered by the source just leaving play, making her leave the field makes the second half not exist, as she isn't the to shuffle.
The two sentences do matter, but you still can't interrupt the effect. By two sentences, the abilities are seperate from each other. You don't only get the hit counter if she can be shuffled, you get it, then shuffle.
Essentially:
Trigger goes on stack
You cast effect that removes creature
Stack goes to resolve
Creature removes
Creature effect applies
Hit counter goes on
No chance to interrupt
shuffle, since off of field means she can't be shuffled, thus fizzled
I hope this clears it up. It's complicated, but once you figure it out, you begin to always see how it works, every time
okay that makes sense, thanks
Thank you. Building it!
Maybe a standard version? :)
oh this looks fun was looking for something to play with dimir
Any clone would work, since the legend rule is a replacement you can put her in the command zone.
Well Wedge....I made it.....and boy howdy does this deck make your opponent suuuuuper salty. Played my little brother in a 1v1 against his Shanna, Sissay's Legacy token deck. After nearly losing to Etrata's insta lose ability in the first game, he switched strategies to just play tokens. Let me tell you, Launch the Fleet with a Divine Visitation on the field is a scary situation. Luckily he tried to get rid of my Resonator with a Rec Sage and I was able to clone that to get rid of the Visitation. TL;DR this deck is broken and I think I don't even feel bad for playing with it in my 6 person playgroup that has a Niv Mizzet Parun Storm deck, Krenko mono red deck, Tetsuko deck, Scorpion God Zombie deck, and the aforementioned Shanna token deck. Cannot express enough gratitude for the tips and additions because I was gunna make a deck with her before I saw this video anyway.
I can't wait for your next video!
The BLOOPERS ARE THE BEST
wouldn't the Lightning Greaves prevent Etrata from being targeted by ur own spells??
Yes
I love this deck tech - I have to buy this deck now
Figured command beacon would be in here in case etrata does end up costing a lot of mana
I made a standard deck built around getting etrata in the graveyard and then using the new lazav to become etrata and then transform when he would be shuffled
He'd still get shuffled cause him morphing wouldnt remove the ability from the stack and he'd still be linked to the ability as a legal recipient of the effect. He's still the exact same legal permanent cause he never left the board or gained anything that would make him an illegal permanent for the ability while remaining on the board.
@@TheRicanNinja777 no he won't because just like the flicker effect, you can morph him in response to the shuffle trigger making him a different creature, which means that he doesn't have the ability anymore and can't be shuffled
Thanks man love the card, deck looks sick
Just insanity. This is GOOD STUFF.
I would suggest forbidden orchard if your op isn't playing a lot of creatures
HATERS, TELL ME NOW HOW BAD KAMIGAWA WAS!!!! ILL WAIT...NOT
Hey Wedge, you working on that amazing Zombie/Undergrowth Deck?
Lets see this deck on game nights and if prof uses a lazav deck it might be trouble
No offense wedge I've seen a lot of deck techs for her but to honest I love your deck list a more.
I am impressed. Many comments proven wrong, 9 mana combos = insta-gig... Ahh... Edric smiles!
Serious note, most of this is valid tech, but thd haters have a point, creature-lite decks need more attempts. Etrata is definitely Tier 3, a fun Tier 3, but Shu Yun is better and cheaper
actually, for etrata, like elenda you have to let elenda go to the graveyard for her ability to trigger. so with etrata you NEED to let her shuffle away for her trigger to even happed.
God you're fucking bad at magic.
wait were is Contempt? its like hand built for this deck!
Apparently I tried this and it doesn't work
*Read Fleshwrither at **3:22* ... WTF , I NEVER HEARD OF THAT THING !!!!
Very nice... too bad my friend plays Nekusar and never plays creatures :/
Just keep swinging till they die.
Easier said than done :/
You can animate his artifacts with karn silver golem or other similar effects. She only cares about cards in exile not creatures
Lol, love the bloopers
Your content recently has been amazing thanks wedge, go play some g/r pummeler in modern jff ques