@@kristians2704 Yeah but he’s only critical of cars for no reason. And doesn’t address the important things. A lot of his complaints just don’t apply with the owner base.
Honestly, this kind of video is more of what the internet needs. $40k is a lot of money to most people. And while it’s cool to see content reviewers driving McLarens and Porsche Taycans, those are out of the scope of 99.9% of buyers. I much prefer to see something like this - about the practical realities of buying & maintaining a “normal” car - because it’s much more imminently helpful. Safety, reliability, and fuel economy aren’t “fun”, but they’re realities for most people, and they play heavily on people’s decision-making.
Reliability is the big one. There is a reason all the older toyotas/hondas with port injected N/A engines are holding their value, or appreciating in value. Those cars were built to last. Today's world of DI turbo 4 cyls with high pressure fuel pumps, plastic water/oil pump shrouds, etc are built with a short useful life in mind. So you will pay double what the old cars used to cost only for them to last 1/3 as long. You are better off leasing most (not all) new cars and swapping them out every 3 years.
I agree. So often people show a beautiful luxury car or even a premium car but never go over the ridiculous upcharges and reliability issues that often accompany them. They also don't show the reality of people struggling to afford these which is the case for the vast majority. I suppose they assume everyone leases these things for 36 months and then gets rid of it so they don't have to worry about long term actual ownership of the car they are reviewing
@@realbigtuna667 leasing is a horrible idea. I bought a nice 2012 Outback Limited and haven't had a car payment or mechanical issues yet. It's been great, and the best part is no dealership haggling, no stressing about making the next car payment, no worrying about what happens if I lose my job and I have to wonder how I can afford a 300-400 dollar a month lease. Nothing. I just save money each year I own the thing, it's wonderful. Leasing is only good if you're going to buy a big fancy German or British product that will need oodles of repairs
I don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers. I’ve been here since the beginning and the quality continues to amaze. Even after you defiled my 2015 mustang gt pp, I’d still be your friend.
Your last sentence kind of explains it. His brutally honest approach with nothing held back is certainly appreciated, but comes off as less entertaining/enjoyable compared to more upbeat channels. He’s like the George Carlin of reviewers. Once more people see it I think they’ll jump on board, but it’s not as universally appealing compared to the status quo.
Unless you're Doug, your channel probably is smaller than it deserves. The automotive community is already being taken up by so many people and almost all of them do it the same way so people probably either settled for what they've got, or the people looking at these aren't necessarily here to subscribe in the first place. When you think about most channels: gaming, storytime, makeup, etc., All of that is content that will evolve and continue to provide entertainment. But people who are looking for a car, once they get that car, they're off the market. They don't need to be looking at other car reviews, so they aren't sticking around/subscribing to see more. This has got to be one of the least rewarding categories you can choose to do on TH-cam, at least money wise. These guys get to have fun in their real lives of course, driving the latest and greatest from every maker and whatnot... But the demand will always be lower here than it is for much of other things you can do on YT.. because cars are expensive and chances are you can only choose one every 3 years at the quickest. Growth happens SLOOOOWLY, for everybody. This channel is no exception.
@@johnandstephanie377 when he was first poppin up, he was pretty interesting. it was cool to see cars up close like that. but it grew stale very quickly and i hardly ever watch his vids anymore. any shmuck could do what demuro does to be honest. doing what mark does though, that is much more time consuming and intensive. demuro aint got a camera car or even a nice camera really.
Begrudgingly bought an XC90 for my wife two years ago - man my doubts were wrong! Hands down the best car we’ve ever owned. Exceptionally engineered, incredible build quality and fit/finish, softest leathers, most comfortable seats, composed on the highway, and safety... I’ve since learned that nobody has EVER died in an XC90 - ever. One of the only mass production cars in the world to carry this. Also named the safest car in the world by a number of testing bodies around the world at the time it was released.
So with the 2016 or 2017 model years xc90 inscription years. Could you tell me how the model years did as far as reliability. Thinking about getting this in a month.
@@ryanjoseph8694 I have a 2017. I have had no major issues. I would recommend the xc90, even used. Edit: mine is also inscription. Well worth the extra imho. It is awesome.
@@hb2998 Well that’s good to know we will be getting our XC90 next week also inscription level with the air suspension, bowers and Wilkins, tow bar roof rails, booster seat pretty much fully loaded. Do you have a extended warranty on yours and if so who do you use if you don’t mind ?.
@@ryanjoseph8694 yes, i have 3 year extra for total of 8 years. I bought it because I have the air suspension and felt that might cause me troubles. No issues yet.
Agreed. And it was great he acknowledges the shortcomings of the xc90. I don’t like it when owner reviewers (eg most Tesla owner reviews) think their car is perfect.
@@Wasabi9111 Elon Musk is the reincarnation of Noah and the Model 3 is the Arc to carry us to an electrified salvation. He can do no wrong, how dare you defile the work of the chosen one!
volvo was a leader in the area but it wasn't because others didn't know how to do it - others just didn't consider it worthwhile to spend money in that field. however, with standardizations and regulations put by governments and insurance agencies, others eventually started to invest in this field. now they have matched volvo's safety in many ways by spending more time and money. although volvo remains good in safety, it's not unique like it once was.
According to IIHS Status Report published on May, 2020, Volvo XC60 4WD (model years 2014-17) has the worst fatality rate, almost double the rate of the next worst, Lexus NX 200t 2WD -- the 4WD version has the best rate, btw -- in the mid-size Luxury SUV segment. The fatality rates for Kia Sorrento 4WD and Hyundai Santa Fe 2WD/4WD are less than half the Volvo's rate. I also looked at IIHS report from 2017 (for model years 2011-2014), Volvol's S60 and XC60 were just in the middle of the pack -- the XC60 just ahead of Lincoln/Cadillac. So I must ask, are Volvo owners bad drivers?
Nothing makes you realize that Volvo is just a passenger vehicle, not a tank like getting in a crash. However, most people's Volvo breaks down before that.
Glad to mentioned the car prices “40k is a lot for me”,.... car prices are crazy and are only possible due to finance.... the world has gone mad where 100k is entry to many Marques and models.
@@FXIIBeaver its not just that, literally in the country 50 miles from me, the car is cheaper for 40k dollars. My dumbass country has insane co2 tax and cars are generally much more expensive. Easy government theft.
I've been driving Volvo for 35 years. I'm 6ft tall and I have never found another marque where the seats are so consistently comfortable for long journeys.
I've actually had trips where I got into the car with a sore back (e.g. from a heavy rucksack) and arrived with no aches/pains at all. This is why I bought the car, primarily, owing to a bad back. But even I'm surprised by how good the seats are.
I appreciate Mark sharing the concerns of the common man and approaching costs as a matter of the majority of viewers realistic budget. I agree that spending $30k-$40k of hard earned money is a lot! He is absolute correct. Costs of vehicles and so many commodities are getting out of hand.
Totally agree. I find it funny that entry-level crossovers start at 25-32,000 dollars. That's obscene. No wonder nobody has 400 dollars for an emergency. When you're a young adult, 25,000 on a car is an extravagance that few can afford unless they are the rare type of young adult making six figures. Even then, if you make 120,000, your taxed and end up bringing home 85,000, (if you live in the northeast, typically) then add rent, then add food, cost of living, etc. It all boils down to everyone being forced to lease or finance and never own because nobody should sacrifice half a years salary on a depreciating asset that does nothing but take you from your job and back
Love how he can relate to $40k being a lot of money for a car. It truly is and he mentioned he thinks most people can’t truly afford these things and he’s right!! People are taking out 96 month loans just to afford the monthly payment and they still end up underwater or having to get rid of the car and roll negative equity into something else. It’s absolutely crazy how expensive cars are. After you save for retirement, pay health insurance, mortgage, food, schooling, etc how are people affording more than a $20k payment!!
I have "bought" outright every car since I was 25.Once you buy one you now have equity.Also get a lower car then you can afford.I just bought a new CX-30 outright after selling a Stinger and I never had anything more then a middle class paying job--it is all about personal responsibility.95% of folks buy more car then they need.Instead of putting 35k down on a q3 or AMG 45 GLA--I was able to buy a CX-30.95% of people at least at the BMW near me finance their cars--so I chuckle when I see that new bimmer--knowing the person probably has a 700 dollar a month car payment on something that will be under water in 2 years.Cars have gotten way better and a 30k car today has features a 100k car had 10 years ago.My CX-30 can hit a mid 5 second to 60--which is on par with a100k mercedes 15 years ago.I love cars--but learned early on if you spend wisely you can "own" something nice without breaking the bank.Also--never finance--buy something older outright and have a mechanic check it.If you take care of cars they are reliable.I owned an olds aurorau years ago--supposedly one of the worst lemons ever made and I never had a problem with it because I had the basic maintnenece done.
@@khronin I've done the same thing. I am currently driving a 2012 Outback 2.5i Limited. I bought it outright freshman year of college a few years ago and I still drive it now that I am graduating soon. It's so nice not having to worry about 500-dollar payments for 36 months or more. Liberating actually. I could've probably leased a more expensive newer vehicle, but I didn't, and will likely own the car for 4 or 5 more years before buying another used car. I couldn't imagine spending more than 35k because the vast majority in this nation barely make over 65k, and 30k is half of someone's salary. Crazy to think people choose to spend half their salary on something as stupid as a vehicle.
@@colechapman6976 Yeah--I just sold the Mazda for a 2k profit and now own a kona N. am also rt at 40 years old and I am already semi retired because of being careful with money.Also the german luxury cars--are also the worst money pits by far--they lose the most value--have the lowest warranty coverage and the highest repairs.I just rented a Q3 Audi--57k was the sticker for it fully loaded--all it had on my kona was expensive leather and AWD--paid 35k for the Kona N
In my experience of cars = 52 years, reliability has a lot to do with how you look after the vehicle, that is the way you drive it, doing the correct servicing with quality lubricants and parts. My first cars were an Austin A40 to learn in, then a new Mini, then a Datsun over my first four or five years. Since then I have owned various brands, Honda Toyota, Ford, Subaru, Volvo, and Jeep and to be honest haven’t had any reliability issues with any of them. I currently own a 2014 Volvo XC60 D5 Luxury with extras…….a car which cost around $75,000 new in Australia (AUD). I bought it with 98,000 kilometres (67,000 miles) on the clock in excellent condition and paid $22,000 for it. This is the way to buy a luxury car including a Volvo. This car is an absolute pleasure to drive, very comfortable with good handling and excellent fuel economy. If something goes wrong with it, I’ll fix it because it’s worth fixing. So far at 112,000 kilometres all is well and the vehicle feels as solid and quiet as a new one. Happy. 😎
I persuaded my family to buy a V90CC wagon instead of other luxury brands SUVs and we all think that’s one of the best choice we made on cars. And the Bowers and Wilkins system is just a must have on any Volvos, just so so great
Thank you for emphasizing the importance of buying an extended warranty and the tire and wheel package when buying a Volvo or any European luxury car. It's not even optional, it's a necessity unless you intend on paying much more for repairs.
@@daniels2761 no kidding. My Lexus and Acura over 200k miles just need oil changes. While still maintaining a refined, quiet, ride. Did I mention they were less than $20k? Blows my mind that people would still choose euro junk
@@supersabrosinho they feel the need to impress the hens in the school drop off line and soccer practice. Hubby needs to try to impress brother-in-law or golfing buddies. Meanwhile they have no money going into 529 plans and bare minimum for retirement savings.
Mark, I've owned my XC90 R Design for over 5 years. You are spot on with every pro and every con you mentioned. I've gotten to know my service advisor well, but I'm always well taken care of from the dealer. And despite the issues I've had with the car, it is simply my favorite. The looks are timeless, the interior space is comfortable, striking, and incredibly useable, and it's fairly peppy (considering its heft and small displacement). There still is no SUV I'd rather own, all these years later. Now, if you excuse me, I have to go schedule another repair.
But why? Why buy such an expensive vehicle that needs repairs that cost +1,000? The Huyndai Palisade, Kia Telluride, Genesis brand are all more reliable and cost less
@@har9312 As someone who has owned a 2011 and (now) 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe, I hear you so loud on the reliability. Our Hyundai's have never given us any problems. My husband had a CPO 2012 Audi A4 Avant that required a MAJOR repair about 2 years into ownership (that the extended warranty did not cover). When the Audi was totaled in our driveway (by a teenager on a joyride in his BMW), I swore that I would NEVER own another luxury car. And yet, here I am lusting over an XC90. I think it has to do with the mystique of the luxury brand. My Santa Fe Ultimate has more luxury and safety features than I could have ever dreamed of, but I still turn my head when I see those Thor's Hammer headlights coming down the road.
@@rachelposadafletcher6938 the Santa Fe has EVERYTHING any of the luxury brands offer. My friend has an XC40 and it has been a NIGHTMARE. He drives his 2006 civic all the time because the Volvo SUV is always in the shop
I've got an '03 9-3 and the poor thing looks like one of those background vehicles they use in post-apocalypse movies... We don't have the kind of harsh winters in Romania like we used to, so the underside's not that bad, but the years have turned the exterior into a mess. And what the guy said about acidic things, when I bought it from the previous owner it'd been parked in his yard under a tree for a little over a year, and the tree sap just dripped on the trunk lid. The top of the thing is now like a matte black, like someone painted it the wrong color, all the clear is just gone. When I got it home and washed it, where there had been bird droppings they'd eaten all the way through the paint to the metal. As if I needed one more reason to despise pigeons...
Sold my 2001 9-5 Aero with manual trans and the BBS optional wheels a few years back. Had 142k miles when I sold it to a Saab enthusiast. Still had the original clutch, and not a single issue in all of those miles aside from a cracked coolant crossover pipe at around 130k. Still ran great, but the turbo was on its way out and the clutch was just about at the point where it needed to be replaced. Hope that guy still has it. Great car and I miss it.
Saab's are wonderfully unique cars with a distinct style that will forever be timeless to me. Last year I bought a '10 9-3 Aero with the six speed and I love the car dearly. Too bad parts are getting rarer by the day, I have to take it to a specialist for repairs since he has the hookup. If only GM hadn't run them into the ground...
We got a CPO XC-60 T6 in July. Loaded with every option that comes on the Momemtum model except an upgraded sound sytem and the Polestar option. Only went with the 7 year extended warranty. Drove across country, 3700 miles, at the beginning of September. The car operated flawlessly. The best and most comfortable drive I have ever taken in a car. Not one twinge from my cranky lower back and my rear end never got tired. Every morning I felt as refreshed as I did at the beginning. Yeah, the system takes a minute or so to boot up but I don't need it right off the bat. No profile issues as our profiles are keyed to our keys. When I approach and unlock my profile is being loaded. Best of all, the wife loves the car. Not a problem so far except for a replaced washer pump under warranty. No sqeaks, no rattles, no thumps. Not one extraneous sound that should not be there.
I worked as a crash test Engineer in 2005-2006. Back then, and could be the case still, Side impacts had a higher probability of fatalities then all other accidents, front, rear, rollover. I am glad you survived that accident. I do miss the old civics otherwise.
Thanks Mark! Half way through my XC90 RDesign lease, was using your reviews from 2 to 3 yes ago to help me decide. My 2019 XC90 has Polestar, Bowers, Air Suspension, have taken it off road (Appalachia, it's decent surprisingly), love the audio and highway drive (I do 6-8+ hr drives) and appreciate the safety when my wife and daughter are inside!
My polestar, after 2000kms in the shop for 3 months, whilst trying to fault find the issue. Turns it was the supercharger bypass valve! Sold it immediately after!
@@astronmr20 Very true! It's shocking how little car salesmen know about the product they're selling. A couple years ago, I was at a Toyota dealership, putting in an order for a new Corolla (I wanted a manual, which wasn't on the lot, so the salesman did a factory order for me). Anyway, I brought my mom along, and I was explaining to her that the automatic Corollas have a CVT. So if anyone wants a conventional automatic transmission, they need to get a Camry, which shares the same 8-speed transmission as the RAV4. The salesman "corrected" me, telling me that the Camry has a CVT, and so does the RAV4. Um, no. Wow this dude never even bothered to read the window stickers, or watch a couple TH-cam videos. Seriously.
@@georgetheodossopoulos7827 Yes, I can't understand how someone can know nothing about the product they're selling. They don't need to be car enthusiasts, but there's no excuse for not knowing basic details. My knowledge of which transmissions are in which Toyota models comes from watching car reviews on TH-cam. It isn't some secret, specialized knowledge. But hey, to that salesman's credit, he was really easy to work with, and didn't try to cheat me. So, if I were looking for another car, I'd buy from him again. But he really should know some basic facts about cars!
We recently bought a 2018 Volvo XC90 and compared it to everything else on the market including the new MDX. Hands down the vehicle is fun to drive and the T6 is meant to be enjoyed on an open road. Thanks for confirming our choice!
That $40k purchase price is BANANAS - no one could say no to that. Edit: holy hell those repairs... that's like $15k in less than a year without the bumper to bumper you got - thank God you grabbed that.
@@caglioso if you get all the options yeah true sadly. The regular t5 2.0t with fwd and normal suspension will probably be as reliable as an accord...however it sucks you have to limit yourself to base models to not worry about your car breaking
@@caglioso I'm pretty sure this "German cars = unreliable" is just an american misconception/meme at this point. Most german vehicles are pretty alright in terms of reliability, though a bit high maintenance because they require more oil changes than japanese/korean cars. At least 40% of the vehicles in my country are german, 20% Volvos and the rest japanese,korean brands (and maybe a pinch of fiat/Peugeot)
I bought a 2017 S90 T6 inscription last year, and your review was a large factor in my decision to purchase it. I appreciate high quality audio in vehicles, and it's great to see a car reviewer that expands on that factor. Its unreal how high quality the B&W system is at a used car market price. Please keep informing your audience on that! It also inspires my confidence in ownership that you chose to purchase a Volvo as well. Thanks for the consistently great content; you have found an appreciative subscriber here.
@@yankylebowitz6361 It's been great. Quiet, comfortable, and looks great. Just missing a larger displacement engine like I used to have in my Q50. The power is adequate, but the sound and feel aren't the same. Overall, great car at the price if you're looking for luxury over sportiness.
@@alinazang6651 I bought it with 17,000 miles almost 2 years ago. I'm at 36,000 now with no mechanical issues whatsoever. I am religious about following the recommended maintenance plan with this vehicle. I plan to drive it for at least 5 more years or so, hopefully nothing catastrophic occurs!
@@dylanward9759I'm planning on getting the same car but undecided between the T5 and T6, would like to not have the supercharger, but I would LOVE to have Bowers & wilkins
I love watching these car videos, but man, this is a reminder that I have zero interest in ever buying a new (or even a moderately-priced used) car. You’re a better man than I am!
Two things 1. I appreciate again the different formula you did with this video. It truly is great to mix it up a little. PLEASE KEEP DOING THIS 🙏 2. I think we can all appreciate how far you have come since doing donuts with a lancer to where you are now making art like this
This video was great to see. I have owned a 2017 XC90, and presently a 2019 XC90 Inscription. Definitely share the same frustration with the darn brake rotors, but the overall comfort, drivability and usability of the XC90 has been fantastic. I stumbled onto this video as my lease is coming to a close and I'm considering buying the car and keeping it, vs. looking to another brand's new suv. The other SUV just doesn't come close in terms of features, materials, audio system and the list goes on. I do my own detailing so I've had the ceramic coat on since the first week of ownership. My car has 25,000 miles now and still looks new. I also have a great dealership here in PA, and they take good care of me and the car. Another reason I was weary of going for a different car. Your video has knocked me off the fence of moving to another brand suv. I'll be keeping my XC90 and getting that warranty for sure!! Thanks for doing this video!!
This was a very satisfying video to watch. You choosing to add the 1 million mile Volvo backed extended warranty, tire and wheel package (which you've used 2 times already), clear bra, paint protection, ceramic coating etc. You're doing everything that a new car owner, especially a new luxury car owner should do and sadly most don't.
It is your money, so why not? But none will help resale value in the end. Perfect cars with 250,000 miles don't really sell for more from their faded, scratched, and dented counterparts.
Yeah. I'm really considering a s60 t5 with just the 2.0 turbo and regular suspension. I'm worried about reliability but it's also probably the least mechanically complicated car they make. Soooo much less to go wrong. So I'm not sure if I should go for that warranty
@@daniels2761 If I buy a car brand new, I will be long dead before it reaches 250,000 miles since I don't drive much. I just want it to look attractive and clean while I own it.
I used to work for Volvo. They pour money into safety and leading edge technology instead of reliability and quality. It’s a non stop repair case on wheels.
Latter half of that statement must be in reference to the amount of production that happens in China, if I'm not mistaken. Last I heard, Polestar was a wholly Chinese brand aside from the engineering.
? My 2020 S60 hasn't been in once, except for 11/20 when I had a warped rotor. My 2012 S60 was solid as a rock until my brother whacked a tree, and my 09 S60 2.5T beater is rock solid too. Unless you mean the chinese production models, I can't agree. On a side note. The new XC40 is a cheap pile of shit for the price
From the warnings about owning a newer car like this out of warranty to what to do for any used (but not old) car for paint protection, just wow - lots of food for thought. Thanks for putting the time into this content, Mark.
The best thing about this video is that it feels like a friend is talking to you, honestly, without pretense. This was great. I have a 2019 XC-40 and, even with its flaws, I remain very pleased with it. I do wish the Bowers and Wilkins had been available.
I know this is an old video, you probably will never see this, but I’ve never enjoyed a car review video as much as I enjoyed this one. (My sister just got this exact model so I wanted to see what kind of vehicle she’s getting into) Just loved how you described the various items whether it’s things you like or things you aren’t crazy about, your descriptions & suggestions came across like a friend telling me about their vehicle. I could go on & on but won’t; I rarely comment on videos, especially car reviews, but had to let you know how much I enjoyed this particular review. Thanks for showing what a true car review should be; most seem to grab the dealer brochure & repeat the same thing I can read on the manufacturer website. Bravo 👏
Volvo CPO is still one of the best deals around. They always have issues, ours (P3 generation) nerfed a turbo, turbo oil line seals, two! Power steering pumps, and a few minor issues in the first 3 years of ownership. Since then it’s been smooth sailing with just regular wear and tear items. The warranty is def worth it to smooth out the teething problems they seem to have.
No amount of warranty extension would offset the disruption to one's daily life having to run to the dealer every few weeks to fix the next thing that breaks. And there will ALWAYS be something that breaks next on these. Was very tempted to go with an S90 CPO and upgrade the warranty as you have done but stayed with Lexus in the end. RIP to your Civic - glad you were OK!
Exactly, that's just it. If you're working 7 days a week as Mark said he does, this factor alone would have made it a hard pass for me. When you need a work vehicle, especially to go cross country often as said he would use it for, it's got to be reliable. In a few years we'll be watching a "Why I dumped the XC90" video.
with how much i go out of town reliability cant be a question, i lose too much money if i have to take off work even if the warranty work is free. i got a toyota for the sake of peace of mind
@@stefanrichard01 lol. Poor Mark... now he's playing Russian roulette with that used X7 he bought to replace it with. I can't see him keeping that much more than a year before he dumps that one too.
Luxury will only be worth it if it comes with peace of mind. Not having to worry about warranty, repairs and issues and cost of ownership is what you need from your luxury cars. Toyota and Lexus are the only cars you can trust out of warranty periods.
Excellent video on the ownership experience of these cars. I work at an independent Volvo shop and these are things I share with people when they’re looking to buy a newer model. I currently own 11 older Volvos and while they offer everything I could want and need in a car, most people aren’t too keen on the ownership of these. Always great content from you guys and it’s nice to know and hear actual car enthusiasts embracing one of the safest car companies on the planet!
@@didafm Some people do pay cash, it often makes more sense to finance. For example my credit score required such a payment to go higher as I wasn’t spending much at all
This is pure gold from the best channel on TH-cam hands down. I'm looking between a Volvo S60 T8, Audi S5 Sportback, and Genesis G70 (3.3L) for my next vehicle, and it's great to see some REAL HONEST ownership points, both good and bad about Volvo. It truly doesn't get any better than this.
Safety seems to be so overlooked in the YT community. I'd love to drive an 80 series Landcruiser every day just as much as the next guy.. or a 90s Tacoma. But I would NOT want to get in a crash in one of those! For that reason, I wouldn't drive a non-modern car every day.
The XC90 is one of my favorite 3 row SUVs today. I almost bought one new a month ago, but decided to keep my ‘17 Pilot a little longer to see what the ‘22 XC90 and next gen Pilot will be... The new MDX is looking good too.
Man, I’ve got the Volvo xc90 2017 and I’ve loved every bit of it. It drives so good every time I step in it and haven’t had anything broken in the 60,000 miles it has. Supercharger and turbo are the way to go!
Thank you for this video, confirmed my suspicions around reliability and for that matter with regard to so many cars in general being just far too complex mechanically. Where do apparently so many people, get so much money to spend on cars? Especially when almost none of them will last 10 years now, it's a mystery to me.
I opted for graphene coating rather than ceramic. It's not as hard, but it self heals in warm weather/sunlight. My xc90 is a 2017 with 70k on it and looks brand new (didn't when I bought it!) I even got a 5 year warranty on the coating job!
ive got a 2022 recharge and zero issues, the lag doesn't exist in the display anymore. great review. the gloss panels on the dash get dusty which is my biggest complaint. its roomy, comfy and stylish.
This is a beautiful Volvo Mark! Congratulations! It’s nice to see others like me who also are meticulous about their paint, and as you mentioned the pile of the carpet. I think about and look at those items often with my cars and I appreciate the details of these machines. I agree with the premise of everything you said. In the closing you mentioned a fraction of the protection process as being “Mental” and it really is! You’ve protected your investment here and there is a perception of value there.
Great video! I am a new XC40 owner and can relate to many of your points even though our models are different. I loved your comment about the alarms. The first time I realized that my Volvo is not going to harangue me endlessly about my seatbelt or hatch being open, that I was thrilled. It’s like my car was respecting me! Keep up the great work. You have created one of my favorite channels, again, by talking to me like an adult!
I had a 2016 XC90 and now a 2019 XC60 ... you're right the timeless look of these designs is what makes them what they are. I don't think a trendy Telluride or Palisade will look fresh 4-5 years down the line. I also have almost zero issues with both cars over the last 5 years. I know this is not the norm but maybe it's the base T5 engine both have and keeping the tech minimal not "fully loaded"
I've not had a check engine light on my 2018 XC90. I've had plenty of squeaks and rattles but the dealership has covered everything under warranty, including new brake pads and rotors due to squealing. It's not perfect, but it looks better than any other SUV on the market, is quiet and comfortable, and is worth the price when compared against the competition.
We picked up a 2019 XC90 inscription new based on your review a few years ago. The B&W system was the clincher. Absolutely love the car, it's been very reliable so far. Couldn't be happier driving this to work, we were thinking about a XC90 T8 recharge next year, but I'm starting to rethink that based on the complexity.
@@aircanuck nice! Do you use the electric component often? Just deciding between the t8 and t6 but I feel like the electric component may be useless and more risky out of warranty even though I’m planning on maxing out the extended warranty
@@prabeeshsidhu Sorry, I wasn't clear, we currently just have the T6, were thinking of going T8 next year. I share the exact same concerns as yourself. I haven't read anything that terrible on the reliability yet!
@@aircanuck my apologies I misread that too. I might just hold off on the t8. New technology is better left to be tested IMO. It’ll only be good after a few variations. It also has an effect on the size of the gas tank. T6 is 71 L while T8 is 50L. I only wish Volvo provided more colours! Good luck on your potential buy ahah maybe I’ll update this post when we pick up the car !
You, my friend, have the best XC 90 content I have found to date!! Thank you. The warranty might have saved me from a lot of expensive repairs. Sounds like I want to find a CPO with Volvo warranty.
I have a 2010 XC90 R-Design and just bought a 2018 XC90 R-Design in Bursting Blue 1 week ago! I love them. It was a no-brainer to buy it, it was a 1 owner under 50k miles and I bought it for $36k. I did buy the T5 (no 3rd row, while my 2010 R-Design has the 3rd row, I never use it, no I'm not selling it). Well, all of the ones like mine and the T6 with more mileage and 2017, 2018, 2019 with 65k or 70k miles for $45K. So Thanks to Carmax, I had it transported from Naples to NC. Took them forever to get my title, but it was worth it! Growing up my parents always had Volvos. Carmax only had 6 XC90s throughout the country and 3 R-Designs, my 2018, 2017, and 2019 ($49k).
I went with the Expel paint protection film. It wasn't cheap. However it was specifically cut so that it blends almost imperceptible into the different panels. This particular product was guaranteed for 10 years so I hope it holds up. I plan on ceramic coating it myself after the 30 day cure period.
There are many DITY ceramic products on the market now. I personally use Griot's 3 in 1 Ceramic spray. Spray it on, wipe it off. No residue and easily lasts 6 mos. You can get a bottle for < $30. I'm not convinced a professionally applied custom ceramic is worth the hundreds (many!) they cost..but YMMV.
I bought a 2017 in 2017 s90 T6 Inscription and had no problems whatsoever. Bent a rim couple of times (20” equipped), Volvo fixed it free of charge. Love this car.
I have an Xc90 t6 inscription 1st edition with air ride and 21' wheels. Love it. Best family car. I love it. I have a cpo warranty up to 100k miles. Ive notice i burn a qtr of oil every 400 to 600 miles which is a common issue. If you phone doesn't pair, dont delete it. just hit the bluetooth button, it will ask you to switch, then choose your phone. That works for me, especially with multiple users!
My first car was a '97 Volvo 850 GLT. I loved that car, and it truly made me appreciate Volvo's. Most importantly, it taught me how important having a safe car would be. The downfall was repairs. I mean, places wouldn't even bother to look at it. I've since then moved on to Acura's, and haven't regretted it. I don't think I could afford a new Volvo, especially with those repairs.
I bought a 2019 S60 T8 with Polestar optimization and Bowers & Wilkins this year, with the Volvo approved used car warranty. Very much thanks to your videos on these. I love the interior, drivetrain, and the styling, fearing the moment when the warranty ends and I'd have to change it to something else...
That's exactly the car I'm looking to buy in the near future. All my driving is highway and I've heard it's a fantastic car for that. How's the reliability been in the last year?
@@TheJLMDT nothing to complain about. Normal service is all that’s had to be done to the car. Only issue I’ve had is with the car heater through the mobile app, sometimes it claims to turn it on but when I get to the car it’s cold. Annoying, but rare enough that I don’t do anything about it.
Yeah, Volvo's decision to use a 2.0L 4cyl engine in *EVERYTHING THEY MAKE* made sense to the bean counters but Volvo's prior lineup of 4, 5, 6 & 8 cylinder engines made way more engineering sense.
Mark, I really really really appreciate your honesty and real world lengthy review for us out there. I owned a 2007 XC90 and loved it. Had it for 13 years but had to sell it after pouring $12k the last few years. I took a 2 year break from Volvo and now want to buy a 2020-22 XC90. I know it's worth it but the high maintenance cost is what kills me. With these newer technologies, I know it will be more expensive. I don't think buying an extended warranty will cover everything. As much as I love XC90s I'm not sure I want the headaches to hit the service shop regardless of extended warranty coverage (or not after fighting with tech guy when it's not covered). If I had the luxury of paying for maintenance anytime I need......I'd buy it all over again. But unfortunately, I'm going to play safe with Lexus or alike. Again, I truly appreciate your humble approach to the review. Thank you, Alec
Got a 3 year old 2017 T8 Twin Engine Polestar with the blond interior last year, you are right with the extended warranty. I bought a Volvo £500 warranty which I thought was a lot, but in 18 months of ownership It's needed: replacement rear door lock, drivers seat heating element, turn indicator module replacement and the biggie, rear electric axle clutch replacement for an eye watering £5000+.... ouch! All paid for by the warranty 😎. But, like you, I love this car. After all the issues, still the best I have ever driven and it's an Audi / BMW killer with that combined 415hp 5.4s 0-60 acceleration... But everyday driving to work and back I'm getting 100+ MPG. 🇬🇧 Great advice!
As a Swede this makes me weirdly proud, a little sad its been in the shop that much. Never had problems with my 2015 S60 but this is a bit more complicated so that makes sense.
I have a feeling us Americans aren't getting the same quality you Europeans get out of audi, BMW, Volvo, saab, mercedes especially. Those cars are so shit here, break every time and parts were expensive. Love to hear about the general experience over there?
@@MrNightpwner I actually live in the States but have worked many years at dealerships in Sweden too. The cars are generally the same, there are two big differences imo - luxury cars come to the U.S. with mostly gas engines and they're always fully equipped. It's not uncommon to see a stick shift gearbox, manual adjusting cloth seats etc in Europe. The smaller diesel engines are a bit more reliable (outliers exist obviously) and less equipment is obviously less things to worry about.
My dads S60 was the worst thing ever. We had to get rid of it after less than a year. European branded and built. Sure it was used but so is every other car we have. We learned our lesson we will buy cars from the folks who can actually build cars. Toyota Lexus. We have had a total of 4 and all have been great to us.
@@baronvonjo1929 If it's the 2018 version then it's not built in europe, but in the US or China. Never had big issues with Volvo, and my friends kept buying Volvo without any issues so far. I've driven an v40, XC60, XC40 and a V60 personally, and the only issues I've had were the electronic boot not working and some problems with the stop/start in the newer cars - all very minor. I'm not sure what model you had, but the D3/D4/T4/T5 models were pretty reliable
I learned a lot about the exterior care and it was great to see the professional approach to getting it treated. Your personal thoughts on this were insightful and on point. Excellent video from start to finish.
So many people these days deciding between a $5000 Honda Civic and a $76,000 Volvo. This has really helped my decision and many others in the same situtation.
The sounds Volvo has programmed the car to make are so underrated. I'm glad you brought it up around 13:18. One of the things I appreciate the most with my 2015 S60 is the beeping for the Lane Departure Warning. It's almost pleasant to hear. Not obnoxious like toyota's and the likes of 'em...
Mark, how about you do the Fine Print series on car makes? Go through one's history, rise and downfall and best models? As always, thank you for an Amazing content! Give Jack a solid shoulder tap!
Found this late at night. Bought my 2021 XC60 T5 in Sept 2020. The ONLY problem I've had was my rear windshield wiper falling out, which they replaced for free. It's been a great car and I am so happy and I hope it will last as long as I am driving. I cannot afford another as the prices keep going up. Volvo is worth it if I can afford it.
Great video! Appreciate your objective feedback on a car I've been on the fence about buying for a year or so now. The only thing missing is your input on fuel economy. My current suv is a gas guzzler so I want as much efficiency as possible.
I say this is terrible advice. 10K is way too much for warranty. That 's enough to buy a couple of cheap used cars . And 40K for a used car...wow. Bad call...
Great video delivery. While i love entertaining videos from Cammisa and Hagerty, videos delivered with this calm, collected, not afraid to piss in anyones cheerios type attitude felte genuine and sincere. Your spirit reminds me of myself. The 7 day a weeker, no down time, no time for routine maintenance crap in my life bc of all the things im doing to help others and do for other people. Your tone, expressions and even silly mocking body gestures of other car dudes towards the end was spot on what many of us feel on the inside but rarely state openly. The idea that there are other people who are know what the end result they are looking for but arent sure how to go about getting it was just 100% spot on. Many of us know what we would like as a finished product but have our own day jobs and are not experts in the field of how to get what we want. I really felt like the coatings team you chose took the time to understand that and they explained everything to you in a teaching and guiding manner, not in a salesy or condescending manner. I subscribed. Please make more content like this. Keep it genuine!❤❤
I should have known you are a professional photographer! I have watched many of your videos and I have often remarked to myself how your cinematography is on a different level when compared to other TH-cam car review channels.
I appreciate this video, I've been considering a (cpo) volvo for my next car next year. I think the notes about what's gone wrong and the infotainment system will definitely weigh into my shopping decision and whether I get an extended warranty.
Thanks for this video! In the market now for a used/CPO, and this is exactly the kind of info someone like myself would need to hear. Special thanks for calling out the super/turbo engine/only buy it with a warranty in these, i had wondering what long term care of those was like. 👍🏾🙏🏾
Awesome video and awesome choice Mark! I choose the XC90 for the exact same reason, TWICE. But living in Norway, I now drive an EV (Audi E-Tron). Waiting for the next gen XC90 in EV form though! 😊😊
Hands down, Mr SavageGeese is the best, articulate reviewer on the good, bad, & ugly of any vehicle. Here, he does 28 minutes on a Volvo, and it feels like only half that time. Doing a great service for serious car shoppers like me. Thanks
Only the older ones, the new ones are giant piles of shit. I've seen front crank seals go bad on these 2.0L 4cyls at 30k miles, and the new engines in the 2022 B5/B6 models of the S60 and XC60 are popping CELs on the showroom floor. The fix is real simple sure, but this attention to quality as it leaves the factory is horrendous. Volvo is insane to recommend a 10k mile service interval on this sometimes twin-charged 4 cylinder that already has a 10:2.1 compression ratio. At higher mileage these will burn oil like crazy. Everyone in my shop who is qualified to rebuild engines (I am not yet) has had to replace pistons in these multiple times because the rings suck. TL;DR They don't make 'em like they used to, do not own this car without a warranty.
Owned several Audi and Volvos and choosing our q7 was so hard over the xc90. The interior and styling of the Volvo get the win, but the Audi takes the construction and drivetrain cake. Both are awesome really, so true about the R&D put into these things. They are such awesome cars.
I feel your pain! Cars and everything else is stupid expensive now. I don't understand how people can afford anything. My guess is every one is living the american dream to max and just keep swiping the Sh*t outta that AMEX. I contemplated hard doing PPF and ceramic on my Elise but its 15 years old and would basically need to be repainted first, so I just tell people, "it's a driver" lol. Keep the videos coming GOOSE
84 Month car loans, cheap credit, and debt out the wazoo. The only people with any money are the absolutely stinking rich and the very modest people that live next door ... and they're driving a 15 year old V70 that they bought used for a steal.
Finally someone who can can be honest and not rave about every cars
Because he bought it. It's not a press car.
@@zaitcev0 even when it's sponsored he says a bit of negatives.
That's the reason I unsubscribed doug de muro.
@@rozetca Doug Demuro is sometimes very critical of cars, just watch his review of the Lexus LX or Infiniti Q50 or Mercedes Metris
@@kristians2704 Yeah but he’s only critical of cars for no reason. And doesn’t address the important things. A lot of his complaints just don’t apply with the owner base.
Honestly, this kind of video is more of what the internet needs. $40k is a lot of money to most people. And while it’s cool to see content reviewers driving McLarens and Porsche Taycans, those are out of the scope of 99.9% of buyers. I much prefer to see something like this - about the practical realities of buying & maintaining a “normal” car - because it’s much more imminently helpful.
Safety, reliability, and fuel economy aren’t “fun”, but they’re realities for most people, and they play heavily on people’s decision-making.
I enjoy his stressing about protecting his comparatively expensive vehicle. One of us…
Reliability is the big one. There is a reason all the older toyotas/hondas with port injected N/A engines are holding their value, or appreciating in value. Those cars were built to last. Today's world of DI turbo 4 cyls with high pressure fuel pumps, plastic water/oil pump shrouds, etc are built with a short useful life in mind. So you will pay double what the old cars used to cost only for them to last 1/3 as long. You are better off leasing most (not all) new cars and swapping them out every 3 years.
@@realbigtuna667 leasing is for idiots and the rich.
I agree. So often people show a beautiful luxury car or even a premium car but never go over the ridiculous upcharges and reliability issues that often accompany them. They also don't show the reality of people struggling to afford these which is the case for the vast majority. I suppose they assume everyone leases these things for 36 months and then gets rid of it so they don't have to worry about long term actual ownership of the car they are reviewing
@@realbigtuna667 leasing is a horrible idea. I bought a nice 2012 Outback Limited and haven't had a car payment or mechanical issues yet. It's been great, and the best part is no dealership haggling, no stressing about making the next car payment, no worrying about what happens if I lose my job and I have to wonder how I can afford a 300-400 dollar a month lease. Nothing. I just save money each year I own the thing, it's wonderful. Leasing is only good if you're going to buy a big fancy German or British product that will need oodles of repairs
I don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers. I’ve been here since the beginning and the quality continues to amaze. Even after you defiled my 2015 mustang gt pp, I’d still be your friend.
Your last sentence kind of explains it. His brutally honest approach with nothing held back is certainly appreciated, but comes off as less entertaining/enjoyable compared to more upbeat channels. He’s like the George Carlin of reviewers. Once more people see it I think they’ll jump on board, but it’s not as universally appealing compared to the status quo.
Because demuro
Unless you're Doug, your channel probably is smaller than it deserves.
The automotive community is already being taken up by so many people and almost all of them do it the same way so people probably either settled for what they've got, or the people looking at these aren't necessarily here to subscribe in the first place. When you think about most channels: gaming, storytime, makeup, etc., All of that is content that will evolve and continue to provide entertainment. But people who are looking for a car, once they get that car, they're off the market. They don't need to be looking at other car reviews, so they aren't sticking around/subscribing to see more. This has got to be one of the least rewarding categories you can choose to do on TH-cam, at least money wise. These guys get to have fun in their real lives of course, driving the latest and greatest from every maker and whatnot... But the demand will always be lower here than it is for much of other things you can do on YT.. because cars are expensive and chances are you can only choose one every 3 years at the quickest. Growth happens SLOOOOWLY, for everybody. This channel is no exception.
@@devongee1776 I find demuro boring as fuck. Kudos to him, but he ain’t for me.
@@johnandstephanie377 when he was first poppin up, he was pretty interesting. it was cool to see cars up close like that. but it grew stale very quickly and i hardly ever watch his vids anymore. any shmuck could do what demuro does to be honest. doing what mark does though, that is much more time consuming and intensive. demuro aint got a camera car or even a nice camera really.
Begrudgingly bought an XC90 for my wife two years ago - man my doubts were wrong! Hands down the best car we’ve ever owned. Exceptionally engineered, incredible build quality and fit/finish, softest leathers, most comfortable seats, composed on the highway, and safety... I’ve since learned that nobody has EVER died in an XC90 - ever. One of the only mass production cars in the world to carry this. Also named the safest car in the world by a number of testing bodies around the world at the time it was released.
Wow. I didn’t know that! Cool fact
Im just ready to buy a XC90 and so happy to hear that
As a Volvo tech, I’ll 100% recommend extended warranty 👍
Bought a '17 S60 T6 R-Design Platinum back in February. Got the 10 year unlimited mile warranty on it. Any reccomendation to keep it in good shape?
So with the 2016 or 2017 model years xc90 inscription years. Could you tell me how the model years did as far as reliability. Thinking about getting this in a month.
@@ryanjoseph8694 I have a 2017. I have had no major issues. I would recommend the xc90, even used. Edit: mine is also inscription. Well worth the extra imho. It is awesome.
@@hb2998 Well that’s good to know we will be getting our XC90 next week also inscription level with the air suspension, bowers and Wilkins, tow bar roof rails, booster seat pretty much fully loaded. Do you have a extended warranty on yours and if so who do you use if you don’t mind ?.
@@ryanjoseph8694 yes, i have 3 year extra for total of 8 years. I bought it because I have the air suspension and felt that might cause me troubles. No issues yet.
This is what I want from Mark, his experiences with cars and reasons why someone choose a certain type of car. Thanks, Mr Goose
Agree. I think I enjoyed this long term review and upkeep video better than his recent reviews. Reminds me of his old long-form reviews
Agreed. And it was great he acknowledges the shortcomings of the xc90. I don’t like it when owner reviewers (eg most Tesla owner reviews) think their car is perfect.
@@Wasabi9111 Elon Musk is the reincarnation of Noah and the Model 3 is the Arc to carry us to an electrified salvation. He can do no wrong, how dare you defile the work of the chosen one!
Nothing steers you into buying a Volvo like getting in a crash!
That is exactly why I got my first Volvo - a crash on the autobahn going 80 miles / 130 KMH.
Or simply steers you out of a 90's car.
volvo was a leader in the area but it wasn't because others didn't know how to do it - others just didn't consider it worthwhile to spend money in that field. however, with standardizations and regulations put by governments and insurance agencies, others eventually started to invest in this field. now they have matched volvo's safety in many ways by spending more time and money. although volvo remains good in safety, it's not unique like it once was.
According to IIHS Status Report published on May, 2020, Volvo XC60 4WD (model years 2014-17) has the worst fatality rate, almost double the rate of the next worst, Lexus NX 200t 2WD -- the 4WD version has the best rate, btw -- in the mid-size Luxury SUV segment. The fatality rates for Kia Sorrento 4WD and Hyundai Santa Fe 2WD/4WD are less than half the Volvo's rate. I also looked at IIHS report from 2017 (for model years 2011-2014), Volvol's S60 and XC60 were just in the middle of the pack -- the XC60 just ahead of Lincoln/Cadillac.
So I must ask, are Volvo owners bad drivers?
Nothing makes you realize that Volvo is just a passenger vehicle, not a tank like getting in a crash. However, most people's Volvo breaks down before that.
Glad to mentioned the car prices “40k is a lot for me”,.... car prices are crazy and are only possible due to finance.... the world has gone mad where 100k is entry to many Marques and models.
Mustang mach 1 in my country is $112k XD
@@dwade3202 Imports will always be pricey.
@@FXIIBeaver its not just that, literally in the country 50 miles from me, the car is cheaper for 40k dollars. My dumbass country has insane co2 tax and cars are generally much more expensive. Easy government theft.
@@dwade3202 ew. Government interference.
D Wade let me guess, Singapore/Germany?
I've been driving Volvo for 35 years. I'm 6ft tall and I have never found another marque where the seats are so consistently comfortable for long journeys.
Good to know, as I'm 5' 9" and most people don't get the height question.
volvo has the best seats of any car ive ever driven
I've actually had trips where I got into the car with a sore back (e.g. from a heavy rucksack) and arrived with no aches/pains at all. This is why I bought the car, primarily, owing to a bad back. But even I'm surprised by how good the seats are.
I appreciate Mark sharing the concerns of the common man and approaching costs as a matter of the majority of viewers realistic budget. I agree that spending $30k-$40k of hard earned money is a lot! He is absolute correct. Costs of vehicles and so many commodities are getting out of hand.
Totally agree. I find it funny that entry-level crossovers start at 25-32,000 dollars. That's obscene. No wonder nobody has 400 dollars for an emergency. When you're a young adult, 25,000 on a car is an extravagance that few can afford unless they are the rare type of young adult making six figures. Even then, if you make 120,000, your taxed and end up bringing home 85,000, (if you live in the northeast, typically) then add rent, then add food, cost of living, etc. It all boils down to everyone being forced to lease or finance and never own because nobody should sacrifice half a years salary on a depreciating asset that does nothing but take you from your job and back
@@colechapman6976 or be financially smart and just buy a used car?
@@nowaybruh145
Yes, buy a used Lexus.
@@oneviwatara9384 yep, that's what I did, got my wife a 2004 LX470 5 years ago, put 75,000 trouble free miles on it so far...
"One of my LOVERS" haha good one. We all know Jack is your only lover.
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He is talking about the Volvo service team, which he spends so much time with, Jack is getting suspicious.
Love how he can relate to $40k being a lot of money for a car. It truly is and he mentioned he thinks most people can’t truly afford these things and he’s right!! People are taking out 96 month loans just to afford the monthly payment and they still end up underwater or having to get rid of the car and roll negative equity into something else. It’s absolutely crazy how expensive cars are. After you save for retirement, pay health insurance, mortgage, food, schooling, etc how are people affording more than a $20k payment!!
I have "bought" outright every car since I was 25.Once you buy one you now have equity.Also get a lower car then you can afford.I just bought a new CX-30 outright after selling a Stinger and I never had anything more then a middle class paying job--it is all about personal responsibility.95% of folks buy more car then they need.Instead of putting 35k down on a q3 or AMG 45 GLA--I was able to buy a CX-30.95% of people at least at the BMW near me finance their cars--so I chuckle when I see that new bimmer--knowing the person probably has a 700 dollar a month car payment on something that will be under water in 2 years.Cars have gotten way better and a 30k car today has features a 100k car had 10 years ago.My CX-30 can hit a mid 5 second to 60--which is on par with a100k mercedes 15 years ago.I love cars--but learned early on if you spend wisely you can "own" something nice without breaking the bank.Also--never finance--buy something older outright and have a mechanic check it.If you take care of cars they are reliable.I owned an olds aurorau years ago--supposedly one of the worst lemons ever made and I never had a problem with it because I had the basic maintnenece done.
@@khronin I've done the same thing. I am currently driving a 2012 Outback 2.5i Limited. I bought it outright freshman year of college a few years ago and I still drive it now that I am graduating soon. It's so nice not having to worry about 500-dollar payments for 36 months or more. Liberating actually. I could've probably leased a more expensive newer vehicle, but I didn't, and will likely own the car for 4 or 5 more years before buying another used car. I couldn't imagine spending more than 35k because the vast majority in this nation barely make over 65k, and 30k is half of someone's salary. Crazy to think people choose to spend half their salary on something as stupid as a vehicle.
@@colechapman6976 Yeah--I just sold the Mazda for a 2k profit and now own a kona N. am also rt at 40 years old and I am already semi retired because of being careful with money.Also the german luxury cars--are also the worst money pits by far--they lose the most value--have the lowest warranty coverage and the highest repairs.I just rented a Q3 Audi--57k was the sticker for it fully loaded--all it had on my kona was expensive leather and AWD--paid 35k for the Kona N
I love your review vidoes, but this no-BS "story time" is just fantastic.
In my experience of cars = 52 years, reliability has a lot to do with how you look after the vehicle, that is the way you drive it, doing the correct servicing with quality lubricants and parts. My first cars were an Austin A40 to learn in, then a new Mini, then a Datsun over my first four or five years. Since then I have owned various brands, Honda Toyota, Ford, Subaru, Volvo, and Jeep and to be honest haven’t had any reliability issues with any of them.
I currently own a 2014 Volvo XC60 D5 Luxury with extras…….a car which cost around $75,000 new in Australia (AUD).
I bought it with 98,000 kilometres (67,000 miles) on the clock in excellent condition and paid $22,000 for it. This is the way to buy a luxury car including a Volvo.
This car is an absolute pleasure to drive, very comfortable with good handling and excellent fuel economy. If something goes wrong with it, I’ll fix it because it’s worth fixing. So far at 112,000 kilometres all is well and the vehicle feels as solid and quiet as a new one. Happy. 😎
Never purchase a new luxury car, either lease it or buy a CPO.
I persuaded my family to buy a V90CC wagon instead of other luxury brands SUVs and we all think that’s one of the best choice we made on cars. And the Bowers and Wilkins system is just a must have on any Volvos, just so so great
Thank you for emphasizing the importance of buying an extended warranty and the tire and wheel package when buying a Volvo or any European luxury car. It's not even optional, it's a necessity unless you intend on paying much more for repairs.
This video reminded me why we're a Japanse family now.
We had a used Volvo. Worst car related mistake we ever did. European cant build a car to save their life.
@@daniels2761 no kidding. My Lexus and Acura over 200k miles just need oil changes. While still maintaining a refined, quiet, ride. Did I mention they were less than $20k? Blows my mind that people would still choose euro junk
@@supersabrosinho they feel the need to impress the hens in the school drop off line and soccer practice. Hubby needs to try to impress brother-in-law or golfing buddies. Meanwhile they have no money going into 529 plans and bare minimum for retirement savings.
Old volvos are built like tanks, these are more fragile than an alfa and german car combined
Mark, I've owned my XC90 R Design for over 5 years. You are spot on with every pro and every con you mentioned. I've gotten to know my service advisor well, but I'm always well taken care of from the dealer. And despite the issues I've had with the car, it is simply my favorite. The looks are timeless, the interior space is comfortable, striking, and incredibly useable, and it's fairly peppy (considering its heft and small displacement). There still is no SUV I'd rather own, all these years later. Now, if you excuse me, I have to go schedule another repair.
But why? Why buy such an expensive vehicle that needs repairs that cost +1,000? The Huyndai Palisade, Kia Telluride, Genesis brand are all more reliable and cost less
@HA R exactly i just dont understand
@@har9312 As someone who has owned a 2011 and (now) 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe, I hear you so loud on the reliability. Our Hyundai's have never given us any problems. My husband had a CPO 2012 Audi A4 Avant that required a MAJOR repair about 2 years into ownership (that the extended warranty did not cover). When the Audi was totaled in our driveway (by a teenager on a joyride in his BMW), I swore that I would NEVER own another luxury car. And yet, here I am lusting over an XC90. I think it has to do with the mystique of the luxury brand. My Santa Fe Ultimate has more luxury and safety features than I could have ever dreamed of, but I still turn my head when I see those Thor's Hammer headlights coming down the road.
@@rachelposadafletcher6938 the Santa Fe has EVERYTHING any of the luxury brands offer. My friend has an XC40 and it has been a NIGHTMARE. He drives his 2006 civic all the time because the Volvo SUV is always in the shop
@@har9312 unless u own one of about 200k units from 09 or 11 thru '15, with engine failure eventually.
The ghosts of my dearly departed SAABs look on with envy wishing they could get the Goose treatment.
I've got an '03 9-3 and the poor thing looks like one of those background vehicles they use in post-apocalypse movies...
We don't have the kind of harsh winters in Romania like we used to, so the underside's not that bad, but the years have turned the exterior into a mess.
And what the guy said about acidic things, when I bought it from the previous owner it'd been parked in his yard under a tree for a little over a year, and the tree sap just dripped on the trunk lid. The top of the thing is now like a matte black, like someone painted it the wrong color, all the clear is just gone.
When I got it home and washed it, where there had been bird droppings they'd eaten all the way through the paint to the metal. As if I needed one more reason to despise pigeons...
You don’t even know!
Ah yes, Swedish Automobile Always Broken :P
Sold my 2001 9-5 Aero with manual trans and the BBS optional wheels a few years back. Had 142k miles when I sold it to a Saab enthusiast. Still had the original clutch, and not a single issue in all of those miles aside from a cracked coolant crossover pipe at around 130k. Still ran great, but the turbo was on its way out and the clutch was just about at the point where it needed to be replaced. Hope that guy still has it. Great car and I miss it.
Saab's are wonderfully unique cars with a distinct style that will forever be timeless to me. Last year I bought a '10 9-3 Aero with the six speed and I love the car dearly. Too bad parts are getting rarer by the day, I have to take it to a specialist for repairs since he has the hookup. If only GM hadn't run them into the ground...
We got a CPO XC-60 T6 in July. Loaded with every option that comes on the Momemtum model except an upgraded sound sytem and the Polestar option. Only went with the 7 year extended warranty. Drove across country, 3700 miles, at the beginning of September. The car operated flawlessly. The best and most comfortable drive I have ever taken in a car. Not one twinge from my cranky lower back and my rear end never got tired. Every morning I felt as refreshed as I did at the beginning. Yeah, the system takes a minute or so to boot up but I don't need it right off the bat. No profile issues as our profiles are keyed to our keys. When I approach and unlock my profile is being loaded. Best of all, the wife loves the car. Not a problem so far except for a replaced washer pump under warranty. No sqeaks, no rattles, no thumps. Not one extraneous sound that should not be there.
I worked as a crash test Engineer in 2005-2006. Back then, and could be the case still, Side impacts had a higher probability of fatalities then all other accidents, front, rear, rollover. I am glad you survived that accident. I do miss the old civics otherwise.
Thanks Mark! Half way through my XC90 RDesign lease, was using your reviews from 2 to 3 yes ago to help me decide. My 2019 XC90 has Polestar, Bowers, Air Suspension, have taken it off road (Appalachia, it's decent surprisingly), love the audio and highway drive (I do 6-8+ hr drives) and appreciate the safety when my wife and daughter are inside!
5 years of ownership my 2016 V60 Polestar has been really good. Only had one issue. Front strut mount replaced and that’s it. So far so good
Get rid of it....now!!!!! You’re about to face thousands in repairs. I had no problems for five years either. Then came the sixth year of hell.
My polestar, after 2000kms in the shop for 3 months, whilst trying to fault find the issue. Turns it was the supercharger bypass valve! Sold it immediately after!
@@vc8160 The 2L 4 cylinder sucks. Its nowhere near as reliable as the inline
@@jtee5957 Year 6 and still rock solid. I do my schedule maintenance every year.
Imagine you're a salesman and he shows up to purchase a car. 😅
@Yirlani you missed the joke but I appreciate the insight.
Most salespeople are not like enthusiasts who know all the details.
@@astronmr20 Very true! It's shocking how little car salesmen know about the product they're selling. A couple years ago, I was at a Toyota dealership, putting in an order for a new Corolla (I wanted a manual, which wasn't on the lot, so the salesman did a factory order for me). Anyway, I brought my mom along, and I was explaining to her that the automatic Corollas have a CVT. So if anyone wants a conventional automatic transmission, they need to get a Camry, which shares the same 8-speed transmission as the RAV4. The salesman "corrected" me, telling me that the Camry has a CVT, and so does the RAV4. Um, no. Wow this dude never even bothered to read the window stickers, or watch a couple TH-cam videos. Seriously.
@@hamsterama it’s quite disappointing to see honestly. Shame these guys get paid to basically do nothing
@@georgetheodossopoulos7827 Yes, I can't understand how someone can know nothing about the product they're selling. They don't need to be car enthusiasts, but there's no excuse for not knowing basic details. My knowledge of which transmissions are in which Toyota models comes from watching car reviews on TH-cam. It isn't some secret, specialized knowledge. But hey, to that salesman's credit, he was really easy to work with, and didn't try to cheat me. So, if I were looking for another car, I'd buy from him again. But he really should know some basic facts about cars!
We recently bought a 2018 Volvo XC90 and compared it to everything else on the market including the new MDX. Hands down the vehicle is fun to drive and the T6 is meant to be enjoyed on an open road. Thanks for confirming our choice!
Damn, man... Volvo... now you're speaking my language! (Lifelong Volvo owner here for 25+ years)
That $40k purchase price is BANANAS - no one could say no to that.
Edit: holy hell those repairs... that's like $15k in less than a year without the bumper to bumper you got - thank God you grabbed that.
Lol, volvo has succeeded in becoming just as unreliable as the germans.
@@caglioso shut up
@@caglioso if you get all the options yeah true sadly. The regular t5 2.0t with fwd and normal suspension will probably be as reliable as an accord...however it sucks you have to limit yourself to base models to not worry about your car breaking
@@caglioso I'm pretty sure this "German cars = unreliable" is just an american misconception/meme at this point. Most german vehicles are pretty alright in terms of reliability, though a bit high maintenance because they require more oil changes than japanese/korean cars. At least 40% of the vehicles in my country are german, 20% Volvos and the rest japanese,korean brands (and maybe a pinch of fiat/Peugeot)
@@RaGeAlucard found the hyper sensitive insecure one. Enjoy your maintenance plan.
I bought a 2017 S90 T6 inscription last year, and your review was a large factor in my decision to purchase it. I appreciate high quality audio in vehicles, and it's great to see a car reviewer that expands on that factor. Its unreal how high quality the B&W system is at a used car market price. Please keep informing your audience on that! It also inspires my confidence in ownership that you chose to purchase a Volvo as well. Thanks for the consistently great content; you have found an appreciative subscriber here.
How your experience mean while ?
@@yankylebowitz6361 It's been great. Quiet, comfortable, and looks great. Just missing a larger displacement engine like I used to have in my Q50. The power is adequate, but the sound and feel aren't the same. Overall, great car at the price if you're looking for luxury over sportiness.
What's your mileage now? I'm really considering one of these.
@@alinazang6651 I bought it with 17,000 miles almost 2 years ago. I'm at 36,000 now with no mechanical issues whatsoever. I am religious about following the recommended maintenance plan with this vehicle. I plan to drive it for at least 5 more years or so, hopefully nothing catastrophic occurs!
@@dylanward9759I'm planning on getting the same car but undecided between the T5 and T6, would like to not have the supercharger, but I would LOVE to have Bowers & wilkins
I love watching these car videos, but man, this is a reminder that I have zero interest in ever buying a new (or even a moderately-priced used) car. You’re a better man than I am!
You are absolutely correct and I agree! I always say cars are rolling liabilities
Two things
1. I appreciate again the different formula you did with this video. It truly is great to mix it up a little. PLEASE KEEP DOING THIS 🙏
2. I think we can all appreciate how far you have come since doing donuts with a lancer to where you are now making art like this
This video was great to see. I have owned a 2017 XC90, and presently a 2019 XC90 Inscription. Definitely share the same frustration with the darn brake rotors, but the overall comfort, drivability and usability of the XC90 has been fantastic. I stumbled onto this video as my lease is coming to a close and I'm considering buying the car and keeping it, vs. looking to another brand's new suv. The other SUV just doesn't come close in terms of features, materials, audio system and the list goes on. I do my own detailing so I've had the ceramic coat on since the first week of ownership. My car has 25,000 miles now and still looks new. I also have a great dealership here in PA, and they take good care of me and the car. Another reason I was weary of going for a different car. Your video has knocked me off the fence of moving to another brand suv. I'll be keeping my XC90 and getting that warranty for sure!! Thanks for doing this video!!
This was a very satisfying video to watch. You choosing to add the 1 million mile Volvo backed extended warranty, tire and wheel package (which you've used 2 times already), clear bra, paint protection, ceramic coating etc. You're doing everything that a new car owner, especially a new luxury car owner should do and sadly most don't.
It is your money, so why not? But none will help resale value in the end. Perfect cars with 250,000 miles don't really sell for more from their faded, scratched, and dented counterparts.
Yeah. I'm really considering a s60 t5 with just the 2.0 turbo and regular suspension. I'm worried about reliability but it's also probably the least mechanically complicated car they make. Soooo much less to go wrong. So I'm not sure if I should go for that warranty
@@daniels2761 If I buy a car brand new, I will be long dead before it reaches 250,000 miles since I don't drive much. I just want it to look attractive and clean while I own it.
I used to work for Volvo. They pour money into safety and leading edge technology instead of reliability and quality. It’s a non stop repair case on wheels.
Latter half of that statement must be in reference to the amount of production that happens in China, if I'm not mistaken. Last I heard, Polestar was a wholly Chinese brand aside from the engineering.
In sweden any new volvo has had the most customer complaints and callbacks
? My 2020 S60 hasn't been in once, except for 11/20 when I had a warped rotor. My 2012 S60 was solid as a rock until my brother whacked a tree, and my 09 S60 2.5T beater is rock solid too. Unless you mean the chinese production models, I can't agree.
On a side note. The new XC40 is a cheap pile of shit for the price
But a Hyundai.
@@4.6_boat Well that’s a 2020... may not be the best example.
From the warnings about owning a newer car like this out of warranty to what to do for any used (but not old) car for paint protection, just wow - lots of food for thought. Thanks for putting the time into this content, Mark.
The best thing about this video is that it feels like a friend is talking to you, honestly, without pretense. This was great. I have a 2019 XC-40 and, even with its flaws, I remain very pleased with it. I do wish the Bowers and Wilkins had been available.
I know this is an old video, you probably will never see this, but I’ve never enjoyed a car review video as much as I enjoyed this one. (My sister just got this exact model so I wanted to see what kind of vehicle she’s getting into)
Just loved how you described the various items whether it’s things you like or things you aren’t crazy about, your descriptions & suggestions came across like a friend telling me about their vehicle.
I could go on & on but won’t; I rarely comment on videos, especially car reviews, but had to let you know how much I enjoyed this particular review.
Thanks for showing what a true car review should be; most seem to grab the dealer brochure & repeat the same thing I can read on the manufacturer website.
Bravo 👏
That's hands down the best looking XC90 I've seen of the current generation
I was honestly looking at the s90 T6 CPO with the warranty. This is great!
Do it. I absolutely love my S90, extended wheelbase, Pilot Assist, th-cam.com/video/pn5NUMp63Hg/w-d-xo.html
Volvo CPO is still one of the best deals around. They always have issues, ours (P3 generation) nerfed a turbo, turbo oil line seals, two! Power steering pumps, and a few minor issues in the first 3 years of ownership. Since then it’s been smooth sailing with just regular wear and tear items. The warranty is def worth it to smooth out the teething problems they seem to have.
I own a 2020 XC60 T8 RECHARGE. Best car I have ever owned. Completely satisfied. No problems at all.
No amount of warranty extension would offset the disruption to one's daily life having to run to the dealer every few weeks to fix the next thing that breaks. And there will ALWAYS be something that breaks next on these. Was very tempted to go with an S90 CPO and upgrade the warranty as you have done but stayed with Lexus in the end. RIP to your Civic - glad you were OK!
Exactly, that's just it. If you're working 7 days a week as Mark said he does, this factor alone would have made it a hard pass for me. When you need a work vehicle, especially to go cross country often as said he would use it for, it's got to be reliable. In a few years we'll be watching a "Why I dumped the XC90" video.
with how much i go out of town reliability cant be a question, i lose too much money if i have to take off work even if the warranty work is free. i got a toyota for the sake of peace of mind
@@JL-rj9fl lol you called it!
@@stefanrichard01 lol. Poor Mark... now he's playing Russian roulette with that used X7 he bought to replace it with. I can't see him keeping that much more than a year before he dumps that one too.
Luxury will only be worth it if it comes with peace of mind. Not having to worry about warranty, repairs and issues and cost of ownership is what you need from your luxury cars. Toyota and Lexus are the only cars you can trust out of warranty periods.
admit it @savagegeese, the real reason you needed this car was the Bowers and Wilkins audio option :-)
That's one of the reasons I bought my 2020 V60 Cross Country, it's like a sound orgasm.
Nice, but given the mechanical issues, there's no way I could commit to a car like this.
All your videos are fantastic. Been following for 7 years now, but this one was also EXACTLY what I needed. Thanks!!
Excellent video on the ownership experience of these cars. I work at an independent Volvo shop and these are things I share with people when they’re looking to buy a newer model. I currently own 11 older Volvos and while they offer everything I could want and need in a car, most people aren’t too keen on the ownership of these. Always great content from you guys and it’s nice to know and hear actual car enthusiasts embracing one of the safest car companies on the planet!
I can confirm 40 grand is a very large amount of money.
That's just the cost of an average car.
@@ChickenC0re if its not alot of money why do people not pay cash then and always finance for 5+ years
@@didafm It is a lot of money. My point is, is that 50% pay more than that. It's ridiculous.
@@ChickenC0re ya and those people have to be slaves at work and they can't retire early hahah
@@didafm Some people do pay cash, it often makes more sense to finance. For example my credit score required such a payment to go higher as I wasn’t spending much at all
This is pure gold from the best channel on TH-cam hands down. I'm looking between a Volvo S60 T8, Audi S5 Sportback, and Genesis G70 (3.3L) for my next vehicle, and it's great to see some REAL HONEST ownership points, both good and bad about Volvo. It truly doesn't get any better than this.
Safety seems to be so overlooked in the YT community. I'd love to drive an 80 series Landcruiser every day just as much as the next guy.. or a 90s Tacoma. But I would NOT want to get in a crash in one of those! For that reason, I wouldn't drive a non-modern car every day.
The XC90 is one of my favorite 3 row SUVs today. I almost bought one new a month ago, but decided to keep my ‘17 Pilot a little longer to see what the ‘22 XC90 and next gen Pilot will be... The new MDX is looking good too.
Stay with the Japanese most reliable cars. Do not buy Chinese clunkers (even if they now own the Volvo badge)
New Pilot looks good.
Man, I’ve got the Volvo xc90 2017 and I’ve loved every bit of it. It drives so good every time I step in it and haven’t had anything broken in the 60,000 miles it has. Supercharger and turbo are the way to go!
I will appreciate it if u give me any advice , im looking at buying one. Hope u have yours yet
My wife and I are strongly considering getting an XC90. This video was perfect man. Thanks so much for putting out quality content!
Thank you for this video, confirmed my suspicions around reliability and for that matter with regard to so many cars in general being just far too complex mechanically. Where do apparently so many people, get so much money to spend on cars? Especially when almost none of them will last 10 years now, it's a mystery to me.
I opted for graphene coating rather than ceramic. It's not as hard, but it self heals in warm weather/sunlight. My xc90 is a 2017 with 70k on it and looks brand new (didn't when I bought it!) I even got a 5 year warranty on the coating job!
I don’t even plan to purchase a Volvo but I watched this video as if I was.
Amazing.
ive got a 2022 recharge and zero issues, the lag doesn't exist in the display anymore. great review. the gloss panels on the dash get dusty which is my biggest complaint. its roomy, comfy and stylish.
I’ve have a 2019 xc90 t6 since new and haven’t had one issue ever with it!! At 60k now 💪🏼
This is a beautiful Volvo Mark! Congratulations! It’s nice to see others like me who also are meticulous about their paint, and as you mentioned the pile of the carpet. I think about and look at those items often with my cars and I appreciate the details of these machines. I agree with the premise of everything you said. In the closing you mentioned a fraction of the protection process as being “Mental” and it really is! You’ve protected your investment here and there is a perception of value there.
I subscribed to SG and now I don’t need my daily therapy sessions.
Daily.. lol
Great video! I am a new XC40 owner and can relate to many of your points even though our models are different. I loved your comment about the alarms. The first time I realized that my Volvo is not going to harangue me endlessly about my seatbelt or hatch being open, that I was thrilled. It’s like my car was respecting me! Keep up the great work. You have created one of my favorite channels, again, by talking to me like an adult!
I had a 2016 XC90 and now a 2019 XC60 ... you're right the timeless look of these designs is what makes them what they are. I don't think a trendy Telluride or Palisade will look fresh 4-5 years down the line. I also have almost zero issues with both cars over the last 5 years. I know this is not the norm but maybe it's the base T5 engine both have and keeping the tech minimal not "fully loaded"
I've not had a check engine light on my 2018 XC90. I've had plenty of squeaks and rattles but the dealership has covered everything under warranty, including new brake pads and rotors due to squealing. It's not perfect, but it looks better than any other SUV on the market, is quiet and comfortable, and is worth the price when compared against the competition.
We picked up a 2019 XC90 inscription new based on your review a few years ago. The B&W system was the clincher. Absolutely love the car, it's been very reliable so far. Couldn't be happier driving this to work, we were thinking about a XC90 T8 recharge next year, but I'm starting to rethink that based on the complexity.
Did you buy an extended warranty?
@@prabeeshsidhu No, we don't anticipate holding on to it out of warranty
@@aircanuck nice! Do you use the electric component often? Just deciding between the t8 and t6 but I feel like the electric component may be useless and more risky out of warranty even though I’m planning on maxing out the extended warranty
@@prabeeshsidhu Sorry, I wasn't clear, we currently just have the T6, were thinking of going T8 next year. I share the exact same concerns as yourself. I haven't read anything that terrible on the reliability yet!
@@aircanuck my apologies I misread that too. I might just hold off on the t8. New technology is better left to be tested IMO. It’ll only be good after a few variations. It also has an effect on the size of the gas tank. T6 is 71 L while T8 is 50L. I only wish Volvo provided more colours! Good luck on your potential buy ahah maybe I’ll update this post when we pick up the car !
I had that car. Literally went 30k without changing the oil. Nothing ever broke on that car
Peter Francis Geraci ads were part of my childhood thank you Mr. Goose
His office was right next to Victory Auto Wreckers.
Haha classic.I remember my moms friend going on a date with him.Was as boring and monotone as his ads
You, my friend, have the best XC 90 content I have found to date!! Thank you. The warranty might have saved me from a lot of expensive repairs. Sounds like I want to find a CPO with Volvo warranty.
I have a 2010 XC90 R-Design and just bought a 2018 XC90 R-Design in Bursting Blue 1 week ago! I love them. It was a no-brainer to buy it, it was a 1 owner under 50k miles and I bought it for $36k. I did buy the T5 (no 3rd row, while my 2010 R-Design has the 3rd row, I never use it, no I'm not selling it). Well, all of the ones like mine and the T6 with more mileage and 2017, 2018, 2019 with 65k or 70k miles for $45K. So Thanks to Carmax, I had it transported from Naples to NC. Took them forever to get my title, but it was worth it! Growing up my parents always had Volvos. Carmax only had 6 XC90s throughout the country and 3 R-Designs, my 2018, 2017, and 2019 ($49k).
As someone that's going to be in the market for a car soon, you should definitely do more videos like this it was very informative
Now this is a video relevant to my interests. Savage Geese, welcome to the GOAT Crew.
I went with the Expel paint protection film. It wasn't cheap. However it was specifically cut so that it blends almost imperceptible into the different panels. This particular product was guaranteed for 10 years so I hope it holds up. I plan on ceramic coating it myself after the 30 day cure period.
There are many DITY ceramic products on the market now. I personally use Griot's 3 in 1 Ceramic spray. Spray it on, wipe it off. No residue and easily lasts 6 mos. You can get a bottle for < $30. I'm not convinced a professionally applied custom ceramic is worth the hundreds (many!) they cost..but YMMV.
I bought a 2017 in 2017 s90 T6 Inscription and had no problems whatsoever. Bent a rim couple of times (20” equipped), Volvo fixed it free of charge. Love this car.
I have an Xc90 t6 inscription 1st edition with air ride and 21' wheels. Love it. Best family car. I love it. I have a cpo warranty up to 100k miles. Ive notice i burn a qtr of oil every 400 to 600 miles which is a common issue.
If you phone doesn't pair, dont delete it. just hit the bluetooth button, it will ask you to switch, then choose your phone. That works for me, especially with multiple users!
My first car was a '97 Volvo 850 GLT. I loved that car, and it truly made me appreciate Volvo's. Most importantly, it taught me how important having a safe car would be. The downfall was repairs. I mean, places wouldn't even bother to look at it. I've since then moved on to Acura's, and haven't regretted it. I don't think I could afford a new Volvo, especially with those repairs.
I think Acura and Lexus would be the only new luxury cars I'd even get close to
@@LLG47 Agreed. I'm not a huge personal fan of Lexus, but their reliability is excellent.
I bought a 2019 S60 T8 with Polestar optimization and Bowers & Wilkins this year, with the Volvo approved used car warranty. Very much thanks to your videos on these. I love the interior, drivetrain, and the styling, fearing the moment when the warranty ends and I'd have to change it to something else...
That's exactly the car I'm looking to buy in the near future. All my driving is highway and I've heard it's a fantastic car for that. How's the reliability been in the last year?
@@TheJLMDT nothing to complain about. Normal service is all that’s had to be done to the car. Only issue I’ve had is with the car heater through the mobile app, sometimes it claims to turn it on but when I get to the car it’s cold. Annoying, but rare enough that I don’t do anything about it.
Yeah, Volvo's decision to use a 2.0L 4cyl engine in *EVERYTHING THEY MAKE* made sense to the bean counters but Volvo's prior lineup of 4, 5, 6 & 8 cylinder engines made way more engineering sense.
Mark, I really really really appreciate your honesty and real world lengthy review for us out there. I owned a 2007 XC90 and loved it. Had it for 13 years but had to sell it after pouring $12k the last few years. I took a 2 year break from Volvo and now want to buy a 2020-22 XC90. I know it's worth it but the high maintenance cost is what kills me. With these newer technologies, I know it will be more expensive. I don't think buying an extended warranty will cover everything. As much as I love XC90s I'm not sure I want the headaches to hit the service shop regardless of extended warranty coverage (or not after fighting with tech guy when it's not covered). If I had the luxury of paying for maintenance anytime I need......I'd buy it all over again. But unfortunately, I'm going to play safe with Lexus or alike. Again, I truly appreciate your humble approach to the review. Thank you, Alec
Got a 3 year old 2017 T8 Twin Engine Polestar with the blond interior last year, you are right with the extended warranty. I bought a Volvo £500 warranty which I thought was a lot, but in 18 months of ownership It's needed: replacement rear door lock, drivers seat heating element, turn indicator module replacement and the biggie, rear electric axle clutch replacement for an eye watering £5000+.... ouch! All paid for by the warranty 😎.
But, like you, I love this car. After all the issues, still the best I have ever driven and it's an Audi / BMW killer with that combined 415hp 5.4s 0-60 acceleration... But everyday driving to work and back I'm getting 100+ MPG. 🇬🇧
Great advice!
As a Swede this makes me weirdly proud, a little sad its been in the shop that much. Never had problems with my 2015 S60 but this is a bit more complicated so that makes sense.
I have a feeling us Americans aren't getting the same quality you Europeans get out of audi, BMW, Volvo, saab, mercedes especially. Those cars are so shit here, break every time and parts were expensive. Love to hear about the general experience over there?
@@MrNightpwner I actually live in the States but have worked many years at dealerships in Sweden too.
The cars are generally the same, there are two big differences imo - luxury cars come to the U.S. with mostly gas engines and they're always fully equipped. It's not uncommon to see a stick shift gearbox, manual adjusting cloth seats etc in Europe.
The smaller diesel engines are a bit more reliable (outliers exist obviously) and less equipment is obviously less things to worry about.
My dads S60 was the worst thing ever. We had to get rid of it after less than a year. European branded and built. Sure it was used but so is every other car we have.
We learned our lesson we will buy cars from the folks who can actually build cars. Toyota Lexus. We have had a total of 4 and all have been great to us.
@@baronvonjo1929 If it's the 2018 version then it's not built in europe, but in the US or China. Never had big issues with Volvo, and my friends kept buying Volvo without any issues so far. I've driven an v40, XC60, XC40 and a V60 personally, and the only issues I've had were the electronic boot not working and some problems with the stop/start in the newer cars - all very minor. I'm not sure what model you had, but the D3/D4/T4/T5 models were pretty reliable
@@MrNightpwner europeans have higher tolerance for repairs and high maintenance cost. More willing to put up with issues for the sake of technology.
I learned a lot about the exterior care and it was great to see the professional approach to getting it treated. Your personal thoughts on this were insightful and on point. Excellent video from start to finish.
So many people these days deciding between a $5000 Honda Civic and a $76,000 Volvo. This has really helped my decision and many others in the same situtation.
My friend is on her second Volvo, and they were ALWAYS in the shop. ALWAYS!!
The sounds Volvo has programmed the car to make are so underrated. I'm glad you brought it up around 13:18. One of the things I appreciate the most with my 2015 S60 is the beeping for the Lane Departure Warning. It's almost pleasant to hear. Not obnoxious like toyota's and the likes of 'em...
Mark, how about you do the Fine Print series on car makes? Go through one's history, rise and downfall and best models?
As always, thank you for an Amazing content! Give Jack a solid shoulder tap!
Looking forward to more updates on this acquisition. Everything about Mark is so dead genuine including the sarcasm and self loathing. 😂
Nice choice with the film and ceramic coating. I'm considering the XC90. I'd do the same exact thing. Minus the tints, illegal in NY.
Everything’s illegal in New York. What a nanny state. 😂
On my second Volvo now. Got the XC40 when it first came out. Loved it!! Now I have a new 21 XC60 with maroon brown leather. They are perfect vehicles!
Found this late at night. Bought my 2021 XC60 T5 in Sept 2020. The ONLY problem I've had was my rear windshield wiper falling out, which they replaced for free. It's been a great car and I am so happy and I hope it will last as long as I am driving. I cannot afford another as the prices keep going up. Volvo is worth it if I can afford it.
Great video! Appreciate your objective feedback on a car I've been on the fence about buying for a year or so now. The only thing missing is your input on fuel economy. My current suv is a gas guzzler so I want as much efficiency as possible.
Nice warranty. You're going to have a new car by the end of that.
If you replace every part on a car over time... is it the same car?
@@tim3172 it's still A car :P
I say this is terrible advice. 10K is way too much for warranty. That 's enough to buy a couple of cheap used cars . And 40K for a used car...wow. Bad call...
@@ML_1515 He doesn't want a cheap used car. He knows the Volvo and its risk factors. The deal is worth it to him and I agree.
Turbo charging + super charging + air suspension = Lease only. But you got a great deal on this one used. Great warranty deal. Beautiful vehicle.
Great video delivery. While i love entertaining videos from Cammisa and Hagerty, videos delivered with this calm, collected, not afraid to piss in anyones cheerios type attitude felte genuine and sincere. Your spirit reminds me of myself. The 7 day a weeker, no down time, no time for routine maintenance crap in my life bc of all the things im doing to help others and do for other people. Your tone, expressions and even silly mocking body gestures of other car dudes towards the end was spot on what many of us feel on the inside but rarely state openly. The idea that there are other people who are know what the end result they are looking for but arent sure how to go about getting it was just 100% spot on. Many of us know what we would like as a finished product but have our own day jobs and are not experts in the field of how to get what we want. I really felt like the coatings team you chose took the time to understand that and they explained everything to you in a teaching and guiding manner, not in a salesy or condescending manner.
I subscribed. Please make more content like this. Keep it genuine!❤❤
I should have known you are a professional photographer! I have watched many of your videos and I have often remarked to myself how your cinematography is on a different level when compared to other TH-cam car review channels.
I appreciate this video, I've been considering a (cpo) volvo for my next car next year. I think the notes about what's gone wrong and the infotainment system will definitely weigh into my shopping decision and whether I get an extended warranty.
Thanks for this video! In the market now for a used/CPO, and this is exactly the kind of info someone like myself would need to hear. Special thanks for calling out the super/turbo engine/only buy it with a warranty in these, i had wondering what long term care of those was like. 👍🏾🙏🏾
Awesome video and awesome choice Mark! I choose the XC90 for the exact same reason, TWICE. But living in Norway, I now drive an EV (Audi E-Tron). Waiting for the next gen XC90 in EV form though! 😊😊
Hands down, Mr SavageGeese is the best, articulate reviewer on the good, bad, & ugly of any vehicle. Here, he does 28 minutes on a Volvo, and it feels like only half that time. Doing a great service for serious car shoppers like me. Thanks
Shopped this against a GX460 you reviewed. Both great cars. But chose the GX460. As you mentioned, reliability is most important here.
The best thing about Volvo's is that their engines are near impossible to break, however once they do break they're impossible to fix.
Only the older ones, the new ones are giant piles of shit. I've seen front crank seals go bad on these 2.0L 4cyls at 30k miles, and the new engines in the 2022 B5/B6 models of the S60 and XC60 are popping CELs on the showroom floor. The fix is real simple sure, but this attention to quality as it leaves the factory is horrendous. Volvo is insane to recommend a 10k mile service interval on this sometimes twin-charged 4 cylinder that already has a 10:2.1 compression ratio. At higher mileage these will burn oil like crazy. Everyone in my shop who is qualified to rebuild engines (I am not yet) has had to replace pistons in these multiple times because the rings suck.
TL;DR They don't make 'em like they used to, do not own this car without a warranty.
Owned several Audi and Volvos and choosing our q7 was so hard over the xc90. The interior and styling of the Volvo get the win, but the Audi takes the construction and drivetrain cake. Both are awesome really, so true about the R&D put into these things. They are such awesome cars.
I feel your pain! Cars and everything else is stupid expensive now. I don't understand how people can afford anything. My guess is every one is living the american dream to max and just keep swiping the Sh*t outta that AMEX. I contemplated hard doing PPF and ceramic on my Elise but its 15 years old and would basically need to be repainted first, so I just tell people, "it's a driver" lol. Keep the videos coming GOOSE
84 Month car loans, cheap credit, and debt out the wazoo. The only people with any money are the absolutely stinking rich and the very modest people that live next door ... and they're driving a 15 year old V70 that they bought used for a steal.
A lot of people leasing which allows you to get a much nicer car that you can't afford.
2019 V90 owner here- this video is on point with the infotainment hate, the interior love and the B&W stereo which is just stupidly awesome.
I’ve been driving Volvo for years.i just got a new xc40.great cars