Definitely. Since this is going to be the first Zelda movie, it would be better if it stuck to its roots of the early games. The newer games have great settings and stories, but since they have to be adapted into film with a limited runtime, it has a high chance of becoming an expedition dump. Also, they really can't take the mario movie route this time since it will be much more serious. The great thing is that the first two games aren't too specific on the story elements, so I think, if done right (A BIG IF) it can leave a lot of room for a really interesting adventure.
I really hope so, I think that the movie could take a lot of inspiration from the manga by Ran Maru as they introduce some interesting elements to the franchise such as Link being trained by a werewolf named Gump or that Link is accompanied by a parrot named Watto
YES especially the first one, I could see it in the same vain of the dnd movie with link just running around and just doing random stuff, maybe he might accidentally do some dungeons out of order and it could widen the audience of the original Zelda, as most people write it off as too cryptic
I will always defend the Zelda cartoon. Not everything has to "hold up" as an adult. 8 year old me was just happy seeing Nintendo cartoons with Nintendo music and Nintendo sounds, so it got the job done.
44 year old old me is just as happy as 8 year old me. Lol. I lived for Fridays! I was so happy when I found Zelda on a DVD and the dollar store, and then later on on Netflix.
In regards to Link's fate after waking the Wind Fish and ending up adrift in the ocean: in A Link Between Worlds there's Gramps who is the strongest opponent in the game, wears a green tunic, wields a Master Sword and any item Link can use and has a unique Zelda leitmotif in the end credits. It's not a big stretch to assume that Gramps is the Link from Past/Awakening/Oracles, running a sidequest to train new Links in his old age.
@@Kagomai15 unfortunately, its only through street pass battles i believe. im not positive but i think the thing is that you have to beat a bunch of street pass battles and get EVERY medal in order to fight gramps.
ya hero of legend hype. the game calls him legendary at some point... i think thats what his name is in game. or his status or something giving a hint of who gramps really was. lol. some channel also made some theory about this awhile ago. it was neat. lttp is my fav.
Kinda impossible for a spirit of the hero to reincarnate into a new hero if they're still alive no? Atleast the hero of time had the decency to die before meeting a new hero
15:50 About that.... in the manga version of LoZ2.... Awake Zelds does join Link on his adventures, and at one point while she was dressed as Link during a battle, she ends up killed by Ganon's minions to resurect Ganon... And when Link goes to revive Zelda, Ganon attacks em. And much to both their horrors, the corpse of Zelda falls into lava.... So yea to hide the fact that the current princess died horribly, when the sleeping Zelda was awakened, they all just pretended she was the other Zelda all along due to their similar looks... it's extremely messed up!
I never knew that, lmao! Which manga do you mean, though? There are 3 different ones based on Zelda 2. The wiki lists separate 'The Adventure of Link' manga series by authors Yuu Mishouzaki, Maru Ran, and Shigoto. Also, where can I read these?
they dont rly pretend since pretty much everyone saw her die right in front of them, it was pretty fucked up, Link goes fuckin ballistic on Ganon too the old Zelda does wake up and is more confused by all thats happened but the manga ends pretty quick afterwards
I've watched hundreds of hours of people going through Zelda history and this has things I have never heard of. I also really appreciate how you treated every project with respect and showed the love and time that went into each one. Thanks
The way the manga of a link to the past ended was realistic and bitter sweet. And i mean the version that was trickled out over a season of Nintendo Power mag in the early 90s. In case you never read it, it ends with Zelda approaching link as he places the master sword in its pedestal in the lost woods. He is all pimped out because he's now leader ift the Hyrulian Knights and protector of the Triforce. She tells him that while peace has been restored, its bitter sweet because her responsibilities to the kingdom, and his as a protector, disable them from ever seeing each other informally. She laments this sacrifice they make for peace ajtd covets her memories of being captive by Ganon because during that time she was connected to Link. She sheds a tear and her horse trots her away while link stands and sadly watches her leave. Then it goes to a shot a of the sword still in the pedestal, but now covered in moss and vines, showing that it was intouched for likely centuries. This indicated that Hyrule remains in a long period of peace from Ganon. Fantastic ending and I'd love to see something like that in the movie.
Minako Hamano's music in Link's Awakening are some of my absolute favorites. The Tal Tal Heights track has to be my favorite sort of remix of the standard Zelda theme
I always thought that the first two Zeldas would fit into the 80s fantasy movie worlds: Legend, Willow, Ladyhawke, Conan the Barbarian, Kull the Conqueror, Beastmaster, Krull, etc. and A Link to the Past started the Zelda Series as we know it.
You are right and I miss the 80s fantasy atmosphere. 80s fantasy is basically what a kid would come up with when they let their imagination run wild. Newer Zelda's got anime-ified.
@@Eener1000 No kidding. I remember a time when news of a Zelda live action film would be met with excitement. But now, there's so many anime fans in the Zelda community that it was booed for not being animated. Zelda has definitely attracted the anime crowd, and it's in no small part due to BotW.
@@KainYusanagi True enough. But that's not exclusive to the live action ones. The more recent seasons of the Castlevania animated series haven't been very good either tbh. Still, there *are* some good ones as well (Sonic, Mario, etc.) so it could work.
@@rocknatex5013 Even "the good ones" are really only good by comparison; they're decent movies on their own, sure, but they take a lot of artistic liberties with canon. Sorta like the first RE movie; decent flick, but it did a bad job of being accurate to RE, and the followup movies... Blegh.
I played Zelda in 1988, I was 5. I then received The Adventure of Link as a gift the next year; I'm still playing them now into my 40s (with Wind Waker being my favorite game of all time).
I experienced all of this in real time as it came out. It’s rare to see retrospective content take the releases in context like you did. I really appreciated that. The summer between getting the Nintendo Fun Club issue (pre Nintendo Power) that featured Zelda 2, and getting the game felt like an eternity. I was so hyped for 2, and loved it. ALttP blew me away - I still hold it above all others in my own head cannon. I remember how amazing little details were in this game, like the sound of the rain outside the initial Hyrule Castle run, but going into a basement level, you no longer hear it. Great video, man!
That was such a good issue and it pre-dated the idea of Ganon having been a human before becoming a pig because he was corrupted by power without wisdom. So cool.
Being as I was a kid in the 1980s, I thought it funny as i got older that cartoons from when I was a kid couldn't have dead people (unless you were Real Ghostbusters and they're ghosts), but things could die in cartoon movies.
Ghosts and other undead at the time were an exception because a rather semantic but important detail was specifically the "dying" part. Technically not depicting something dying if it's already dead.
Oh boy, smooching time! This was awesome! Thanks so much for all the work you put into this! I loved every minute of it and am glad to have so much more context for this franchise
Amazing how few subscribers he has, this is really really good content. Could maybe be trimmed down a little bit in places, but I thoroughly enjoyed it and was very impressed by the writing. Great balance of humour too, so many channels these days have way too much cringe - the jokes here were light and made me laugh, definitely helped the "flow" of it a lot.
I really wish more people knew of the stories and just how deep the stories of just the first 2 games themselves went. I could never hate Zelda 2 because even though the game itself is definitely insane, the story of the game over screen where Link is literally SACRIFICED and they use his blood to resurrect Ganon... like what? For a children's game in the 80s you don't expect such a dark story but I absolutely love the manuals for providing us with the backstories of the games. I wish more people would give the first games credit for giving us a story while also providing us with an action adventure/fantasy dungeon crawler experience as best they could for the hardware had at the time I haven't even watched the video yet but already I just know I'm gonna love this based on the title! Great video already LOL
Yeah. Personally, I enjoy The Adventure of Link. But it's hated often by people who have never even given it a shot, just because the Zelda community says it's bad. It's a shame, really.
ya its mostly shiggys fault earlier games nintendo made dont focus much on lore... he likes gameplay first then add story at the last. kinda style. lttp is when it first started coming all together. i hope they go with that for movie.
@@ssppeeaarr i agree. i think the era of the wild had its time but holy it's been beaten like a dead horse. i hope the movie focuses on the earlier games as well; we've seen the world of zelda in 3d for so long, i'd love to have the first 4 games breathe in some more 3d life (although i did love albw). it just feels like nintendo's forgotten that classical era of zelda completely with the era of the wild
The artwork in the manuals of the first 3 games is always what I picture Zelda as in my head. The cartoon was pretty good too, loved that they used the game's sound effects.
When I was a kid, Zelda was one of the few games my friend was allowed to play on his NES because his religious dad didn't like games that had magical or 'non christian' themes, but because Link had a cruciform on his shield he thought it was a christian game lol 😆
My first Zelda game was A Link to the Past. I’ve played nearly every single game; and this is an amazing video! I’m playing Tears of the Kingdom as I watch this.
I grew up with a SEGA Genesis, and rarely got to play any Nintendo games when I was a kid. The first two Zelda games were some of my favorites when I did have the chance. I saw a babysitter's husband playing Faces of Evil when I was little. At first I was really confused because I knew the character on the screen was supposed to be Link, but it was so different. However, I also thought it looked really cool, and too my small brain, even scary at times. I wished I could have played it myself. Watching him play Super Metroid was also my introduction to that series, even though I didn't get to play any of the games myself until Prime.
ITS SMOOCHING TIME my headcanon is that the nightmares invaded frim outside the windfishes dream as well. imagine being an intangible dream monster and stumbling into a place where you can actually make changes to the environment? you wouldnt want the 'dream god' to wake up either.
That part of the Zelda comic where Link walks through a wall to retrieve the magic flute in a secret room reminds me of level 2 in the second quest in the first game where the same thing must be done to acquire the same item...
I'm really glad you put this vid together. I don't think I saw the originals. I'm also glad you said all of this. As someone who really enjoys the original games over the newer ones, this showed a lot of love and respect.
Great video, dude! Subscribed! I wanted to add one thing about A Link To The Past: in the video, you say the king was presumed dead. He actually IS dead, and his corpse is shown on the throne in the title plot dump before you start the game.
I sadly didn't get to experience much of the classic Zelda era until I played LttP when they added OoT Link's voice in to the game lol I played that and got in to some of the older ones, really adored the Akira Himekawa manga version of LttP and have grown in to a massive Zelda fan ever since. My journey with Zelda started when I got a second hand N64 and OoT with it and then I-OH BOY, SMOOCHING TIME
Brilliant, insightful and yet lighthearted. Thank you (and your editor) for this video. My wife and I just jumped back into playing Zelda games together (the 3D ones) and now we are thinking about giving also the 2D games a closer look. To keep it short and simple: liked and subscribed.
That is actually pretty cool to learn the Palace Guardian Boss Monsters of Zelda II aren't even affiliated with Ganon, but rather the King of Hyrule. King has his own hidden army of Monsters.
When you think about it in many of the games the dungeons were built and mostly filled with enemies by the good guys. First 8 dungeons in the first one. Everything in "The adventure of Link", and the first 3 in "Link to the Past". They were protecting the Triforce shards, Triforce of Courage, and the key to draw the Master Sword.
Not exactly.... Early Zelda was highly religious, and a lot of it was changed to be less offensive, even today they still use the same religious imagery but try to hide it more. Before explaining I'm leaving this note. Note the final forms of villains are based on different versions of the bible(Hebrew, christian etc) as are a lot of plot points in Zelda, such as the flood: •Zant is noted to be a corrupted priest manipulated by Ganon (the devil equivalent) •Ganon takes the form of Baal •Twin Rova takes the form of a djinn(demon) •Vaati takes the form of a biblically accurate fallen angel •Majora is noted to be a demon
For example Ocarina of time: Ganon(beast) is based on Baal, who took over the desert king Ganondorf who was Hungry for power to protect his people the gerudo(moors)(even down to the flameco music) Baal is noted for being summoned by the sacrifice of children. Twin Rova becomes a djinn when combined(a djiin/demon, servant to the demon king Ganon) that's their true form. They taught Ganondorf magic for the sake of him losing himself and becoming Ganon/the vessel for ganon, the dark lord they serve. Triforce power(the power of god) is hidden in a temple, opened by a saint, and the chosen hero of said god. This happens because the people of Hyrule reject Ganondorf when he comes to them for help, he then seeks power, and with that power curses the people who refused to help him, the more he used the power the more sacrifices he had to make. No sacrifice was too much. But by the end he had forgotten why he was fighting to begin with(for his people) when freed in windwaker he seems to be more cautious in his use of power, and what he's willing to sacrifice for it.
This is really random but at about 41:32 it was mentioned that star signs were associated with the three goddesses and I would be curious, WHAT are their star signs? I‘ve been trying to find the answer but I only know the element each of them represents.
I find it interesting to compare how the Triforce is treated in this era in comparison to Ocarina of Time onward. Well the Triforce clearly has A physical form, the way they're treated is more of as a force or essence that happens to be possessed by certain characters. The almost treated as extensions of those characters, a part of them that can be removed and transferred, but not an item in their inventory. But in these early games they're very clearly and distinctly treated as physical artifacts. When Gannon stole the Triforce of power, he didn't merge and become one with it, he just took it as link would one of his items. Zelda didn't always have the Triforce of wisdom, because that would be like always having your phone. You could certainly do it most of the time, and constantly carrying around would be convenient, but there will always be points where it's just better to not have it on you, because it is a physical object that you have to store somewhere. It's an incredibly different approach to these artifacts that would eventually be discarded by Ocarina of Time.
what? The triforce has always been a physical object. You literally spend every game gathering the pieces of the broken triforce and putting them back together...hell, wind waker put you on a whole ass pirate treasure hunt complete with maps and swash buckling
27:39 Pictured boss is not Iron Knuckle, it's Helmet Head. Iron Knuckle is also only kind of a boss in Zelda II. They're the most common strong enemy you fight in dungeons, and one of them is fought as a boss with an extra first phase where it rides a horse. It has its own unique name though, Rebonack.
Years ago I was listening to an interview and before the concept of the time traveling microchips apparently they were going to call link Castiel or Costello I can't really remember but then it changed like so many things do in that franchise. They were looking for two western names to have in their high fantasy adventure, the other being Zelda named after the wife of the author of The Great Gatsby
Sony really tried to put the screws to Nintendo over that Playstation bit. They basically had a team that kept pushing Nintendo about a partnership, and Nintendo agreed to explore it, at which point Sony announced the Playstation and then told Nintendo they were getting all the profits from CD games that were sold, while leaving the cartridge profits to Nintendo. Sony was basically going to rob them blind by moving all development to CD, and basically just use Nintendo to get into the market.
This is a great video. I really liked it! One of the things I love about the CDI games is that it has the look of a pre-LoTR fantasy. Obviously, there were gritty fantasy before, but LoTR basically amplified a level of realism that everyone else seemed to latch onto. The CDI games look silly, and that's wonderful. Like a soft cover Del Rey novel.
Valiant Comics' take on Samus Aran remains, to this day, the best interpretation of the character ever. Nobody else, not even Nintendo themselves, has managed to top it.
I'm amazed with how many game review channels I've missed out on. I've been watching AVGN Matei NES punk Riggs etc for years. Better late than never. Subbed.
I used to have one of the Zelda 2 comic books, it was a hand me down from my older brother. I used to read it over and over but I haven’t been able to find it in a couple years. Thank you so much for linking the website to read the comics! Now I can finally find out what happens next!
Not sure if you knew about the heavy influence of Deep Purple's April for the theme song and a few other songs for the game and it's an awesome 14 minutes of a song too.
Small Correction: The Rosalina Backstory was never snuck into Super Mario Galaxy; that's a misinterpreted myth. What actually happened was that Koizumi wrote the story on the sly. When he finished it, he decided to show it Miyamoto and he approved of it, and they added it into the game as side content.
53:14 Retroactively, the Nightmare's final form may be based on Vaati, the villain from Four Swords who first appeared on the GBA version of Link to the Past. He had a similar form with swinging arms.
@7:55 when he's talking about how they weren't able to use the song due to copyright... They apparently got music from deep purple that sounds a little too close to just be inspired lol.
@@rocknatex5013 i recently replayed twilight princess and to be honest it reinforced my sentiment that while Breath of the Wild is one of my favorite games of all time, Twilight Princess is the best Legend of Zelda game.
Oh boy, smooching time! That was a really fun history lesson, and it definitely changed my perspective on that CD-i games. Yeah, we might laugh and balk at them for not having aged as well as a Link to the Past, but back in the day this kind of graphics were all the rage for how new they were and everyone was heads over heels for any full motion video sequences, no matter how shoddy.
I remember reading the manual to A Link to the Past for the first time and being absolutely awestruck as a child, dumbfounded even. Stories this epic simply weren't part of video games for me at the time, it was incredible - especially the illustrations, just too sick !
I was one of the few kids who watched the promo trailer for the LoZ show from the Super Mario Bros. Super Show dvds… seeing how DEEP it truly is from this video is crazy! Take this sub like a heart container and add an extra heart to your YT channel (no regrets on the lame joke btw)🤣🤣 Edit: 33:29 not the NyQuil chicken🤦🏾♂️💀😭😭
15:43 "Zelda rewards him with an all-out make-out sess." That's more than Mario ever got. Sometimes he gets a cake and a kiss on the nose, if he's lucky.
Okay the comic I really liked! How come out of all the Zelda channels and nine million timeline debates and theories, I haven't heard anyone else talk about these comics? Anyways good stuff, good stuff!
I had no clue about some of these games existing and as someone writing a Zelda comic about all Links and Zeldas in two kids heads, I got more stuff to reference
Ah, yes. Captain N. Years later, he'd get to pilot a Gundam in one of the most melodrama-heavy shows and get people to question his Surfer Dude accent.
Zelda's adventure actually looks kinda cool with the unique graphics from photos. I would have been excited as a kid in the 90's to see something like that.
Oh (hell no) boy, (I can't believe you're making me type out) smooching time! Seriously though, great video. As a hardcore Zelda fan, it's always cool to learn something new.
The Shadow Nightmares is a dark magic that was cast on the wind fish and it takes the shape of the forms you have faced before except for one. Being that the Wind Fish is a celestial Wind Element creature. It lines up with Vaati, the Wind Mage, even in form. This is a remnant of Vaati's old magic. Link just happened to enter it's dream that's been going for a long long time by being out in the middle of the ocean where this dream island exists. So he frees the Wind Fish from an old spell cast on it by an evil Wind Mage.
You showed the wrong boss for the Zelda 2 cartoon and comics bit. The Iron Knuckle is the boss of dungeon 3 (hence the mount). The one you showed was Helmethead from 2.
My first was Link to the past. I remember I had a subscription to Nintendo power and sometimes they would have Zelda comics. I remember enjoying them but not knowing where to find them fully printed
I actually have one of those copies of the Legend of Zelda comics from Valiant. They are so cool! I got it at Kmart back in the late eighties when I was a wee lad.
Nintendo confirmed a live action Zelda is in the works. Do you think an adaption of the first two games would work?
Definitely. Since this is going to be the first Zelda movie, it would be better if it stuck to its roots of the early games. The newer games have great settings and stories, but since they have to be adapted into film with a limited runtime, it has a high chance of becoming an expedition dump. Also, they really can't take the mario movie route this time since it will be much more serious. The great thing is that the first two games aren't too specific on the story elements, so I think, if done right (A BIG IF) it can leave a lot of room for a really interesting adventure.
I really hope so, I think that the movie could take a lot of inspiration from the manga by Ran Maru as they introduce some interesting elements to the franchise such as Link being trained by a werewolf named Gump or that Link is accompanied by a parrot named Watto
YES especially the first one, I could see it in the same vain of the dnd movie with link just running around and just doing random stuff, maybe he might accidentally do some dungeons out of order and it could widen the audience of the original Zelda, as most people write it off as too cryptic
Hey! I like your videos!
@@PartyDude_19 Imagining the parrot having the voice and personality of Star Wars Watto is stuck in my head now.
I will always defend the Zelda cartoon. Not everything has to "hold up" as an adult. 8 year old me was just happy seeing Nintendo cartoons with Nintendo music and Nintendo sounds, so it got the job done.
Lots of stuff that Link did ended up being used in future games. He rode on his shield after hitting a bomb.
44 year old old me is just as happy as 8 year old me. Lol. I lived for Fridays! I was so happy when I found Zelda on a DVD and the dollar store, and then later on on Netflix.
Dude ikr!? Lol... if you saw ANYTHING video game related from cartoons to Nick Arcade... we lost our collective flippin MINDS.
I didn't watch that show till my mid 20's, I have no nostalgia for it, and I think it's just fine, people just take this franchise way too seriously.
@@EQOAnostalgia this lol the SMB3 show having game footage from the world maps felt huge.
In regards to Link's fate after waking the Wind Fish and ending up adrift in the ocean: in A Link Between Worlds there's Gramps who is the strongest opponent in the game, wears a green tunic, wields a Master Sword and any item Link can use and has a unique Zelda leitmotif in the end credits. It's not a big stretch to assume that Gramps is the Link from Past/Awakening/Oracles, running a sidequest to train new Links in his old age.
I've beaten that game before and I don't remember fighting Gramps omg? I'll have to start a new playthrough!
@@Kagomai15 unfortunately, its only through street pass battles i believe. im not positive but i think the thing is that you have to beat a bunch of street pass battles and get EVERY medal in order to fight gramps.
@@murmirr daaang, oh well. Maybe there's a let's play of it somewhere lol
ya hero of legend hype. the game calls him legendary at some point...
i think thats what his name is in game. or his status or something giving a hint of who gramps really was. lol.
some channel also made some theory about this awhile ago. it was neat. lttp is my fav.
Kinda impossible for a spirit of the hero to reincarnate into a new hero if they're still alive no? Atleast the hero of time had the decency to die before meeting a new hero
15:50 About that.... in the manga version of LoZ2.... Awake Zelds does join Link on his adventures, and at one point while she was dressed as Link during a battle, she ends up killed by Ganon's minions to resurect Ganon... And when Link goes to revive Zelda, Ganon attacks em. And much to both their horrors, the corpse of Zelda falls into lava....
So yea to hide the fact that the current princess died horribly, when the sleeping Zelda was awakened, they all just pretended she was the other Zelda all along due to their similar looks... it's extremely messed up!
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I never knew that, lmao! Which manga do you mean, though? There are 3 different ones based on Zelda 2. The wiki lists separate 'The Adventure of Link' manga series by authors Yuu Mishouzaki, Maru Ran, and Shigoto. Also, where can I read these?
they dont rly pretend since pretty much everyone saw her die right in front of them, it was pretty fucked up, Link goes fuckin ballistic on Ganon too
the old Zelda does wake up and is more confused by all thats happened but the manga ends pretty quick afterwards
@DaveGrean History of Hyrule has the manga translated but its not a scanlation so u gotta read the text separately
Oh boy smooching time!
_horrified stalfos screaming_
Excuuuuse me
I've watched hundreds of hours of people going through Zelda history and this has things I have never heard of. I also really appreciate how you treated every project with respect and showed the love and time that went into each one. Thanks
The way the manga of a link to the past ended was realistic and bitter sweet. And i mean the version that was trickled out over a season of Nintendo Power mag in the early 90s.
In case you never read it, it ends with Zelda approaching link as he places the master sword in its pedestal in the lost woods. He is all pimped out because he's now leader ift the Hyrulian Knights and protector of the Triforce.
She tells him that while peace has been restored, its bitter sweet because her responsibilities to the kingdom, and his as a protector, disable them from ever seeing each other informally. She laments this sacrifice they make for peace ajtd covets her memories of being captive by Ganon because during that time she was connected to Link. She sheds a tear and her horse trots her away while link stands and sadly watches her leave.
Then it goes to a shot a of the sword still in the pedestal, but now covered in moss and vines, showing that it was intouched for likely centuries. This indicated that Hyrule remains in a long period of peace from Ganon.
Fantastic ending and I'd love to see something like that in the movie.
I'm getting Last Unicorn vibes
Minako Hamano's music in Link's Awakening are some of my absolute favorites. The Tal Tal Heights track has to be my favorite sort of remix of the standard Zelda theme
I always thought that the first two Zeldas would fit into the 80s fantasy movie worlds: Legend, Willow, Ladyhawke, Conan the Barbarian, Kull the Conqueror, Beastmaster, Krull, etc. and A Link to the Past started the Zelda Series as we know it.
You are right and I miss the 80s fantasy atmosphere. 80s fantasy is basically what a kid would come up with when they let their imagination run wild. Newer Zelda's got anime-ified.
@@Eener1000 No kidding. I remember a time when news of a Zelda live action film would be met with excitement. But now, there's so many anime fans in the Zelda community that it was booed for not being animated. Zelda has definitely attracted the anime crowd, and it's in no small part due to BotW.
@@rocknatex5013 To be fair, we've also had a ton of shitty live action adaptations of video games since those days, too.
@@KainYusanagi True enough. But that's not exclusive to the live action ones. The more recent seasons of the Castlevania animated series haven't been very good either tbh. Still, there *are* some good ones as well (Sonic, Mario, etc.) so it could work.
@@rocknatex5013 Even "the good ones" are really only good by comparison; they're decent movies on their own, sure, but they take a lot of artistic liberties with canon. Sorta like the first RE movie; decent flick, but it did a bad job of being accurate to RE, and the followup movies... Blegh.
I played Zelda in 1988, I was 5. I then received The Adventure of Link as a gift the next year; I'm still playing them now into my 40s (with Wind Waker being my favorite game of all time).
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Not my favorite game of all time, but Wind Waker is my favorite post-NES Zelda title.
Wind Waker is the best I remember playing thru it on the GameCube without guided help
@@AceLinker-w5v It was good but i didn't like the grinding for progression.
@@mver191 what grind? That game doesn't have a level up system unless you talking about rupees or items their isn't nothing hard about that game
I experienced all of this in real time as it came out. It’s rare to see retrospective content take the releases in context like you did. I really appreciated that.
The summer between getting the Nintendo Fun Club issue (pre Nintendo Power) that featured Zelda 2, and getting the game felt like an eternity. I was so hyped for 2, and loved it.
ALttP blew me away - I still hold it above all others in my own head cannon. I remember how amazing little details were in this game, like the sound of the rain outside the initial Hyrule Castle run, but going into a basement level, you no longer hear it.
Great video, man!
28:20 i love the idea that Ganon was a regular moblin who happened to find or steal the triforce of power😂. Link beats him and he runs off in terror.
Aw, you missed the comic where Link almost turns into Ganon and dies. It's was my favorite as a kid.
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That one particularly stuck with me, too
That was such a good issue and it pre-dated the idea of Ganon having been a human before becoming a pig because he was corrupted by power without wisdom. So cool.
Link is a self made prophesized hero. How inspiring a character.
Being as I was a kid in the 1980s, I thought it funny as i got older that cartoons from when I was a kid couldn't have dead people (unless you were Real Ghostbusters and they're ghosts), but things could die in cartoon movies.
The only exception was characters having dead parents. Usually the mom.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio True.
ya usa soft. 😟
meanwhile japs get some good animes. like dbz. 😄👌
Ghosts and other undead at the time were an exception because a rather semantic but important detail was specifically the "dying" part. Technically not depicting something dying if it's already dead.
Oh boy, smooching time!
This was awesome! Thanks so much for all the work you put into this! I loved every minute of it and am glad to have so much more context for this franchise
Oh man those 1980s cartoons was such a nostalgic trip. I was like 6 years old when they came out and I was obsessed with them
So what you're really tryin to tell us here bro is you were... "Hooked on the brothas"?
@@EQOAnostalgia who wasnt
Wow! Not a lot of channels on here that started up in 2006. Good on ya!
DANG... i thought i was early with 2011 lol. That's like... year 1.
Amazing how few subscribers he has, this is really really good content. Could maybe be trimmed down a little bit in places, but I thoroughly enjoyed it and was very impressed by the writing. Great balance of humour too, so many channels these days have way too much cringe - the jokes here were light and made me laugh, definitely helped the "flow" of it a lot.
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This OG theme Always give me chills and a rush of adrenaline.
I really wish more people knew of the stories and just how deep the stories of just the first 2 games themselves went. I could never hate Zelda 2 because even though the game itself is definitely insane, the story of the game over screen where Link is literally SACRIFICED and they use his blood to resurrect Ganon... like what? For a children's game in the 80s you don't expect such a dark story but I absolutely love the manuals for providing us with the backstories of the games. I wish more people would give the first games credit for giving us a story while also providing us with an action adventure/fantasy dungeon crawler experience as best they could for the hardware had at the time
I haven't even watched the video yet but already I just know I'm gonna love this based on the title! Great video already LOL
Yeah. Personally, I enjoy The Adventure of Link. But it's hated often by people who have never even given it a shot, just because the Zelda community says it's bad. It's a shame, really.
ya its mostly shiggys fault earlier games nintendo made dont focus much on lore...
he likes gameplay first then add story at the last. kinda style.
lttp is when it first started coming all together. i hope they go with that for movie.
@@ssppeeaarr i agree. i think the era of the wild had its time but holy it's been beaten like a dead horse. i hope the movie focuses on the earlier games as well; we've seen the world of zelda in 3d for so long, i'd love to have the first 4 games breathe in some more 3d life (although i did love albw). it just feels like nintendo's forgotten that classical era of zelda completely with the era of the wild
The artwork in the manuals of the first 3 games is always what I picture Zelda as in my head. The cartoon was pretty good too, loved that they used the game's sound effects.
When I was a kid, Zelda was one of the few games my friend was allowed to play on his NES because his religious dad didn't like games that had magical or 'non christian' themes, but because Link had a cruciform on his shield he thought it was a christian game lol 😆
Not as ridiculous as you think. The early games did allude to Christianity a few times.
Link was Catholic, lol. They only toned it down in America. I'm not joking, look it up
God imagine being that brainwashed
@@TIZFUNKWelcome to the 1980's Satanic Panic
@@TIZFUNKIm confident there are themes/political opinions that you would refuse to play a game over.
Well it is a whole post-apocalyptic timeline so it having way more depth than seen at first glance does make sense
It wasn’t that when it was made.
@@tylertanner7378 I know 7-7
But that's a retcon, This is about the original intent
@@jesusramirezromo2037 It's still not far off
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Miyamoto was inspired by his youth playing outside to create a game that inspired millions of kids to stay inside.
My first Zelda game was A Link to the Past. I’ve played nearly every single game; and this is an amazing video! I’m playing Tears of the Kingdom as I watch this.
Hearing Spirit Tracks music in the wild always heals my inner child. Hearing so much of it in the first 10 minutes almost brought me to tears 🥲
I grew up with a SEGA Genesis, and rarely got to play any Nintendo games when I was a kid. The first two Zelda games were some of my favorites when I did have the chance. I saw a babysitter's husband playing Faces of Evil when I was little. At first I was really confused because I knew the character on the screen was supposed to be Link, but it was so different. However, I also thought it looked really cool, and too my small brain, even scary at times. I wished I could have played it myself. Watching him play Super Metroid was also my introduction to that series, even though I didn't get to play any of the games myself until Prime.
Geez sure it was boring babysitting you.
Sorry, the picture of a 90s babysitter playing THAT is hilarious to me
ITS SMOOCHING TIME
my headcanon is that the nightmares invaded frim outside the windfishes dream as well. imagine being an intangible dream monster and stumbling into a place where you can actually make changes to the environment? you wouldnt want the 'dream god' to wake up either.
Love your vids, Mentok.
Awesome video! It was so nostalgic and the edits were great! Subbed!
That part of the Zelda comic where Link walks through a wall to retrieve the magic flute in a secret room reminds me of level 2 in the second quest in the first game where the same thing must be done to acquire the same item...
I usually just name link “bruh” makes for hilarious interactions
OoT: "bruh...Strange... It sounds somehow... familiar."
TP: "Mr. bruh! WAAAAAIT!"
WW: "bruh, the Hero of Winds!"
Yeah, I could see it lol
I'm really glad you put this vid together. I don't think I saw the originals.
I'm also glad you said all of this. As someone who really enjoys the original games over the newer ones, this showed a lot of love and respect.
Yo the editing on this is so damn funny, this is great!
you predicted EoW right here: 55:48
Great video, dude! Subscribed!
I wanted to add one thing about A Link To The Past: in the video, you say the king was presumed dead. He actually IS dead, and his corpse is shown on the throne in the title plot dump before you start the game.
I wonder if the giant bird from Windwaker is a reference to the parrot being turned into a giant in the manga.
I sadly didn't get to experience much of the classic Zelda era until I played LttP when they added OoT Link's voice in to the game lol I played that and got in to some of the older ones, really adored the Akira Himekawa manga version of LttP and have grown in to a massive Zelda fan ever since. My journey with Zelda started when I got a second hand N64 and OoT with it and then I-OH BOY, SMOOCHING TIME
LOL for realgba version i think with oot vocals. ruined my hype. 😟
nah jk. i liked those additions also with mario world got voices in gba ver.
Brilliant, insightful and yet lighthearted. Thank you (and your editor) for this video. My wife and I just jumped back into playing Zelda games together (the 3D ones) and now we are thinking about giving also the 2D games a closer look.
To keep it short and simple: liked and subscribed.
That is actually pretty cool to learn the Palace Guardian Boss Monsters of Zelda II aren't even affiliated with Ganon, but rather the King of Hyrule. King has his own hidden army of Monsters.
It’s wild that Zelda’s main theme was knocked out in an evening
When you think about it in many of the games the dungeons were built and mostly filled with enemies by the good guys. First 8 dungeons in the first one. Everything in "The adventure of Link", and the first 3 in "Link to the Past". They were protecting the Triforce shards, Triforce of Courage, and the key to draw the Master Sword.
Not exactly.... Early Zelda was highly religious, and a lot of it was changed to be less offensive, even today they still use the same religious imagery but try to hide it more.
Before explaining I'm leaving this note.
Note the final forms of villains are based on different versions of the bible(Hebrew, christian etc) as are a lot of plot points in Zelda, such as the flood:
•Zant is noted to be a corrupted priest manipulated by Ganon (the devil equivalent)
•Ganon takes the form of Baal
•Twin Rova takes the form of a djinn(demon)
•Vaati takes the form of a biblically accurate fallen angel
•Majora is noted to be a demon
For example Ocarina of time:
Ganon(beast) is based on Baal, who took over the desert king Ganondorf who was Hungry for power to protect his people the gerudo(moors)(even down to the flameco music) Baal is noted for being summoned by the sacrifice of children. Twin Rova becomes a djinn when combined(a djiin/demon, servant to the demon king Ganon) that's their true form. They taught Ganondorf magic for the sake of him losing himself and becoming Ganon/the vessel for ganon, the dark lord they serve. Triforce power(the power of god) is hidden in a temple, opened by a saint, and the chosen hero of said god.
This happens because the people of Hyrule reject Ganondorf when he comes to them for help, he then seeks power, and with that power curses the people who refused to help him, the more he used the power the more sacrifices he had to make. No sacrifice was too much. But by the end he had forgotten why he was fighting to begin with(for his people) when freed in windwaker he seems to be more cautious in his use of power, and what he's willing to sacrifice for it.
This is really random but at about 41:32 it was mentioned that star signs were associated with the three goddesses and I would be curious, WHAT are their star signs? I‘ve been trying to find the answer but I only know the element each of them represents.
I find it interesting to compare how the Triforce is treated in this era in comparison to Ocarina of Time onward. Well the Triforce clearly has A physical form, the way they're treated is more of as a force or essence that happens to be possessed by certain characters. The almost treated as extensions of those characters, a part of them that can be removed and transferred, but not an item in their inventory. But in these early games they're very clearly and distinctly treated as physical artifacts. When Gannon stole the Triforce of power, he didn't merge and become one with it, he just took it as link would one of his items. Zelda didn't always have the Triforce of wisdom, because that would be like always having your phone. You could certainly do it most of the time, and constantly carrying around would be convenient, but there will always be points where it's just better to not have it on you, because it is a physical object that you have to store somewhere. It's an incredibly different approach to these artifacts that would eventually be discarded by Ocarina of Time.
what? The triforce has always been a physical object. You literally spend every game gathering the pieces of the broken triforce and putting them back together...hell, wind waker put you on a whole ass pirate treasure hunt complete with maps and swash buckling
27:39 Pictured boss is not Iron Knuckle, it's Helmet Head. Iron Knuckle is also only kind of a boss in Zelda II. They're the most common strong enemy you fight in dungeons, and one of them is fought as a boss with an extra first phase where it rides a horse. It has its own unique name though, Rebonack.
Years ago I was listening to an interview and before the concept of the time traveling microchips apparently they were going to call link Castiel or Costello I can't really remember but then it changed like so many things do in that franchise. They were looking for two western names to have in their high fantasy adventure, the other being Zelda named after the wife of the author of The Great Gatsby
New to your channel, but loved this video a lot. Liked, subbed, grateful for the content.
Sony really tried to put the screws to Nintendo over that Playstation bit. They basically had a team that kept pushing Nintendo about a partnership, and Nintendo agreed to explore it, at which point Sony announced the Playstation and then told Nintendo they were getting all the profits from CD games that were sold, while leaving the cartridge profits to Nintendo. Sony was basically going to rob them blind by moving all development to CD, and basically just use Nintendo to get into the market.
This is a great video. I really liked it!
One of the things I love about the CDI games is that it has the look of a pre-LoTR fantasy. Obviously, there were gritty fantasy before, but LoTR basically amplified a level of realism that everyone else seemed to latch onto. The CDI games look silly, and that's wonderful. Like a soft cover Del Rey novel.
Valiant Comics' take on Samus Aran remains, to this day, the best interpretation of the character ever. Nobody else, not even Nintendo themselves, has managed to top it.
Agreed
Is that the 2000s manga version?
@@Wanten-the-stormtrooper nope, Valiant are American comics
@@mbii7667 Thanks for clarifying! Would those be the ones who did the Captain N comics back in the day?
@@Wanten-the-stormtrooper yup
19:02 i spit my god damn chips out at my work screen at this part.
I'm amazed with how many game review channels I've missed out on. I've been watching AVGN Matei NES punk Riggs etc for years. Better late than never. Subbed.
19:02 As a kid I was stuck between wanting to chuckle, and thinking to myself "does nobody else notice this?"
I used to have one of the Zelda 2 comic books, it was a hand me down from my older brother. I used to read it over and over but I haven’t been able to find it in a couple years.
Thank you so much for linking the website to read the comics! Now I can finally find out what happens next!
No mention of the Nintendo Power magazine The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past comics series?
F you cutting off the seagull like that. That's one of the most touching moments in the entire Zelda franchise
Not sure if you knew about the heavy influence of Deep Purple's April for the theme song and a few other songs for the game and it's an awesome 14 minutes of a song too.
Great job, this entire video is very fascinating. So much info I never knew I wanted. I love Zelda 2 btw!
Did not expect such a wholesome look at the CDI games, it was well done!
3 mins in and I already love your presentation style and video editor subscribed :) take care!
i am so ready to watch this, hell yeah
Dude what a GREAT TRAVEL was watch this video, I feel transported to all games! Thanks for this effort! ❤
Then you find out that both Zelda and Link in the cartoon are into tease and denial, and everything is both way funnier and more uncomfortable.
Small Correction: The Rosalina Backstory was never snuck into Super Mario Galaxy; that's a misinterpreted myth. What actually happened was that Koizumi wrote the story on the sly. When he finished it, he decided to show it Miyamoto and he approved of it, and they added it into the game as side content.
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Retroactively, the Nightmare's final form may be based on Vaati, the villain from Four Swords who first appeared on the GBA version of Link to the Past. He had a similar form with swinging arms.
@7:55 when he's talking about how they weren't able to use the song due to copyright... They apparently got music from deep purple that sounds a little too close to just be inspired lol.
Even if I love OoT, I miss this era of Zelda.
Heck, I miss the OoT era of Zelda now that we've made the switch to open world.
@@rocknatex5013 i recently replayed twilight princess and to be honest it reinforced my sentiment that while Breath of the Wild is one of my favorite games of all time, Twilight Princess is the best Legend of Zelda game.
Oh boy, smooching time! That was a really fun history lesson, and it definitely changed my perspective on that CD-i games. Yeah, we might laugh and balk at them for not having aged as well as a Link to the Past, but back in the day this kind of graphics were all the rage for how new they were and everyone was heads over heels for any full motion video sequences, no matter how shoddy.
Dude those sonic posters are badass
I remember reading the manual to A Link to the Past for the first time and being absolutely awestruck as a child, dumbfounded even. Stories this epic simply weren't part of video games for me at the time, it was incredible - especially the illustrations, just too sick !
Nice shot of the Game Play Counselors at NOA hangin out.
I was one of the few kids who watched the promo trailer for the LoZ show from the Super Mario Bros. Super Show dvds… seeing how DEEP it truly is from this video is crazy! Take this sub like a heart container and add an extra heart to your YT channel (no regrets on the lame joke btw)🤣🤣
Edit: 33:29 not the NyQuil chicken🤦🏾♂️💀😭😭
15:43 "Zelda rewards him with an all-out make-out sess."
That's more than Mario ever got. Sometimes he gets a cake and a kiss on the nose, if he's lucky.
Smoooooching tiiime! Awesome vid man.
What song is at 30:37? I recognize it but I can’t think of the name and Shazam has let me down once again.
I got you! It’s a sped up version of Light’s them from Death Note. I tend to use it for all of my rants 😂
nice video bro
There is also comics based on link to the past that were also pretty serious
Had this on while at work and its a great and quality video, youve got my subscription
For names, if it isn't a variant of my screen name, it's either Link because I'm boring, or Lonk because I think that's hilarious.
"Lonk from Pennsylvania"
Lonk is a classic
Okay the comic I really liked! How come out of all the Zelda channels and nine million timeline debates and theories, I haven't heard anyone else talk about these comics? Anyways good stuff, good stuff!
I had no clue about some of these games existing and as someone writing a Zelda comic about all Links and Zeldas in two kids heads, I got more stuff to reference
Ah, yes.
Captain N.
Years later, he'd get to pilot a Gundam in one of the most melodrama-heavy shows and get people to question his Surfer Dude accent.
27:03 what is the background song? I hear it often in memes and I can't ever seem to find it
Zelda's adventure actually looks kinda cool with the unique graphics from photos. I would have been excited as a kid in the 90's to see something like that.
I got to be a janitor at the junior high school in Bozeman, Mt. for several years. Those kids kept current with gaming. They were fun.
Oh boy! Smooching time! Well produced video
had to pause the video because the sentence "zelda, link, and kevin" had me trying so hard not to laugh i teared up
Excellent editing.
Oh (hell no) boy, (I can't believe you're making me type out) smooching time!
Seriously though, great video. As a hardcore Zelda fan, it's always cool to learn something new.
did i watch the individual videos? yes. am i watching the compilation? yes.
Oh boy smooching time. Great video
28:45 what is this song being played in the background
The Shadow Nightmares is a dark magic that was cast on the wind fish and it takes the shape of the forms you have faced before except for one. Being that the Wind Fish is a celestial Wind Element creature. It lines up with Vaati, the Wind Mage, even in form. This is a remnant of Vaati's old magic. Link just happened to enter it's dream that's been going for a long long time by being out in the middle of the ocean where this dream island exists. So he frees the Wind Fish from an old spell cast on it by an evil Wind Mage.
26:35 Love the Korone clip used here XD
That little clip of AVGN saying "Wow,what an asshole" made me laugh so hard, I was not expecting that
You showed the wrong boss for the Zelda 2 cartoon and comics bit. The Iron Knuckle is the boss of dungeon 3 (hence the mount). The one you showed was Helmethead from 2.
These were great videos. It was before my time and yet I still love the classic Zelda era.
I grew up with the original Zelda. Still love that game. I've basically broken that game.
Watching this and man, I hope you are hyped for the new top-down zelda!
My first was Link to the past. I remember I had a subscription to Nintendo power and sometimes they would have Zelda comics. I remember enjoying them but not knowing where to find them fully printed
I actually have one of those copies of the Legend of Zelda comics from Valiant. They are so cool! I got it at Kmart back in the late eighties when I was a wee lad.