How To Grow Mushrooms Outdoors! |6 Month UPDATE|
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- Growing mushrooms outdoors on a straw bale without sterilization of substrate. Oyster mushrooms growing in a natural environment instead of indoors. This video answers some of the questions subscribers have asked and gives future mushroom growing plans.
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best part : no sterilization! As a biologist I like your attitude :)
Sterilization almost deterred me from growing mushrooms! I was thinking how do they grow wild if they're so sensitive to competition? Turns out they're very tough
As a lazy person, so do I! Also, I don't want to burden my garden with residues or my wallet with huge electricity consumption
I struggled with alcoholism for 6 years or so. After 4 failed rehabs, I'm finally celebrating 8 MONTHS SOBER after an extremely impactful mushroom experience
edit: just hit my 9 month milestone :)
How do you mean by mushroom experience, can you help me with some info?
Please does anyone know any reliable source where I can get them?
Everyone has been talking about them here but no one cares to ask or drop details on how to reach out to them 🤦♂️
How do we get to him, is he on insta?
Yes. He's dr_danshrooms, he's the best shroom doctor ever.
Does he ship? Can he deliver to me here in Luxembourg🇱🇺
Yeck yess love this the mushrooms build the very foundation of our soils an life
They are great! They break down herbicides as well
I love you project and specially the easy part about no sterilization and "open ranch " mushrooms growing. I am going to try that , thanks 😎
It's a simpler way to get more mushrooms with less work!
Winecaps.. the garden giant also eat small nematodes in the soil. But be careful, if you eat them for more than 3 days in a row you most likely will have some serious gastric upset! So yeah grill them like a steak have them for a couple days, then give your GI tract a break!
I've always thought they would be great to grow next to a chicken run as they would then live off all the chicken poop, especially if you use the deep litter method.
Wine caps do good just about anywhere. I had them popping up more than 50 feet away from where I inoculated. They dominate over pretty much any other fungi or mold and I believe they enjoy their presence
Thank you for making things real. I found I was going to have to sterelize everything and I saw to much work. You make thing natural real which I like. I live in Victoria Australia its cold then rest of Australia this is awesome. Thanks
Mushrooms have been growing wild without people sterilizing their habitat so it only makes sense giving them natural growing conditions would work. My only problem is slugs. They took out all my bales last year. They did a number on my wine caps in woodchips too
Great to see success. Im growing outdoors as well. Beds, logs, crates and laundry baskets.
Ive got lions mane in a laundry basket...nothing happening yet. Blue oysters grow anywhere, and we have heaps, plus the golden oyster is powering away. We're in autumn now, and our winter doesn’t t reach freezing.
I bought big bags of hardwood jarrah wood dust, certified organic wheat seed, straw, brown rice, light malt and dextrose for food for the mycelium.
Im just having fun with it all. No point getting ourselves too consumed about perfection, after all, they grow in the wild anyway 😊
Anxious to hear how the lions mane turns out! Keep me posted!
I'm going to grab some of the mycelium and try inoculate some grain to keep it going just in case. The original block I was gifted has hardwood and grain only. Once I get good inoculation I'll use brown rice, the jarrah and grain to see if they will like that substrate. I did get one bloom on the first block and I'm doing a tincture with it. Brain food!!
Great to see it still producing after the first flushes. Great result for your project 😀
Today I noticed the bale had some little mushrooms that tried to grow again but must have dried out. I checked and the bale is still colonized even without winter protection. I have some cold rain coming this weekend. May get anothet flush!
I'm excited for future mushroom content! I really like that you're growing them in a completely different way to most of the mushroom videos I've seen by other people
Doing some wine cap trenches soon!
@@FastGardeningMichigan that would be great
i live in michigan too :D
Awesome!
Sweet! I just realized this video came out 4 weeks ago! I really want to get into growing mushrooms now! This video makes me So enthusiastic! I saw some mushrooms today growing on a tree! : )
The oysters and wine caps are the easy ones to grow
@@FastGardeningMichigan sweet! Thank you!
Thanks so much for the update. Looking forward to hearing more about your mush journey!
Mushrooms fascinate me. So much we do not understand about them
I"ve foraged for mushrooms with my dad years ago. My dad said worry about mushrooms that have no bugs in the wild! I love that you didn't do all the sterilization stuff. That seemed so weird to me since I've foraged for them.
Nature does not sterilize! Mine definitely had bugs on them. If it's not good enough for the bugs, not good enough for me
are you in the UP? Subbing.... gonna try specializing in mushrooms, potatoes, and berries this year over in central wisconsin. and like you, my plan for the shrooms is to do straw bales and just leave them out. Our climate should grow a shitton of shiitakes and oyster mushrooms.
I am in SE Michigan but Im in a whacky microclimate. Those should all grow great!
oyster is your best competitor.
Pink oysters are my go to this year. Gonna grow them in spent bales from the chicken run during the summer
great follow up Thank you!!
Thanks for watching!
Once again very cool and I'm definitely going to try this
Good luck!
great to hear more mushroom content! i'm subscribed up after hearing that, thanks for the videos
Rough part about mushrooms is the reputable dealers make the spawn to order and thats not until may for me. Im getting anxious to try out some of my new ideas and try to make a self sustaining mushroom garden
Love your approach bud
Thanks!
Great video thanks for the update I will be trying your method 👍
Works great. Getting some more going in a couple weeks. Even trying Lion's Mane this way. Probably won't work but worth a shot
I saw a video of a guy who got glyphosate (Roundup) poisoning from just spreading inorganic straw on his garden.
He is now really sick, lost weight, is in chronic pain.
Only use organic straw.
I've found 2 places to get organic straw. It's rare.The process of growing and harvesting straw involves lots of herbicides and an agent to kill the straw to harvest.
Ok ok you got me.. first video i watched but im hooked.. youre gonna teach me how to shroom!
Subscribed :)
Thanks!
New viewer here and can't wait to follow. I will be copying (at least your ideas) on my balcony and a local forest! Cool videos and very engaging presentation.
Just ordered some italian oyster and lions mane spawn. Garden has been inoculated with 25 lbs of wine cap spaen and I have wine caps and shiitake growing inside as an experiment. Good luck. Mushrooms are cool to grow
Nice house.
Thanks
learning a lot. thx. as natural as possible makes them more potent too.
I didn't even cover the bale this year. Let the natural weather tske control so we'll see what happens. It's colonizing great. Italian oysters this time
I like how you think! Subscribed
Thanks!
Very cool, I am in Lansing and am obsessed with mushrooms, excited to see how your plans turn out, you inspired me to get a hay bale going, going to try propagating some native elm oysters in one
That would be awesome. I got some italian oyster spawn and some lions mane headed my way. Waiting for it to get warm for the pink oysters.
I've got some Wine Caps growing here for a year now and am super keen to learn of your upcoming turbo boosting method. (I also put them in a couple of different areas and am keen to expand)
You can order spawn covered dowels in 2 inch sections drill holes in beach logs and shove them in the holes that is the most natural way you can do it when you find them in the woods they are usually growing off a tree or a turned over stump one time I found them growing directly off swamp mud that was completely covered in hemlock debris use the dowels my friend excellent content go Michigan
I use dowels for shiitake
Good advice. I grow vegetables and my rule is - anything that grows lower than a bird flies gets washed before eating.
Gotta get them bugs off that live in the gills! Leave some for a protein boost.
try to ferment the straw in water. cover the straw completly with water for 2 weeks, it will stink, no worries. let it dry and then enoqulate it with the myecillium.
Fantastic videos. How about using logs with plugs for Lion’s Maine? It would take longer but we’re going to try here in tropical Puerto Rico, and will see in about a year!
Good idea. I do not want to cut any of my oaks and most already have fungus in them so lions mane may not be able to compete
I'm very interested in lions mane, cordyceps, red reishi and chanterelle. I know that the chanterelle grow on the roots of some trees so usually you have to do those when you plant certain trees
They are all fascinating. There's so much we don't understand yet
By the way I think the way to get more mushrooms is just to give it more "organic matter" (things that can burn) and since It already has mycelium inside the hay bale it will grow to the next place that it could and eat it and grow mushrooms from there!
That's true. Only concern was they didn't survive the winter but they did make it. Didn't cover it or anything and it got to 10 below zero
@@FastGardeningMichigan I see, great video!
you should definitely check out EM probiotika not just for the mushrooms but for everything in your garden, is the best natural thing you can do in terms of natural pest control and fertilizer and you can clean your house with it and it just makes for a healthy environment al over.
Ill check it out
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Thanks!
The hard wood - soak it Cold Water Lime Pasteurization- and go for it- been wanting to do it myself- Portabello~!
I am not a fan of pasteurization due to extra labor. I like outdoors in a natural setting. But my indoor shiitake and Italian oysters are doing good in clear jugs
Try mushroom "totems" would be perfect for your area
Ive discoverer my microclimate is unreliable when it comes to rain so the totem method crossed my mind but i did logs instead sealed with wax for shiitake
try an electroculture antenna in the straw bale and see how many pests leave
I use copper to deter slugs. It does slow them down but some are very persistent
This is an awesome video, have they flushed any this spring?
I'm dispersing this bale. It is very broken down but there are still mycelium present. I want to take it and mix it with fresh straw in a pile to see if it will repopulate
@@FastGardeningMichigan Sounds like a good video!
PERMACULTURE!
Great follow-up! I bought one of those “Just straw” 1 cubic foot bales and plan to try Lions Mane. I’ll probably just fill the plastic bad surrounding the bale with hot water, let it soak, then punch holes in the bottom for it to drain. What do think about leaving the plastic on while it’s colonizing then make slits for fruiting like one would do with hw substrate?
There will need to be airflow into the bag during colonization. Lion's mane is a tricky mushroom. It colonizes straw but doesn't fruit as great, if at all. It's more of a wood loving fungi. I know soybean hull and fuel pellets are a popular mix for indoors. It's also sensitive to fruiting conditions and aborts easily if everything isn't right. I might play around with them more this winter and get some logs going next spring. This year I spent a lot of time making shiitake logs and growing mushrooms in my garden. I did inoculate a bale with lion's mane and left it outside just to see what happens. It's spreading in the bale but I haven't seen any indication of fruting.
Hi, what type of climate are you in? I’m also getting ready to try with lion’s mane outdoors. I live in southern Spain. Very hot and dry in summer but we’re hoping the rains will start now, in fall. I’m looking forward to hearing what the results for the lion’s mane were
I do not expect results from lion's mane. They really desire wood over straw. Our climate is usually hot and humid in the summer but it gets dry in the winter. The spring and fall seasons seem to be a middle point that the mushrooms like. Had some good flushing on Italian oysters and wine caps this year but the slugs decimated them as soon as they came! Slugs have never been this bad
Sir, are those wood chips? You can grow mushrooms on all of that. Check-in on some chemistry. I would love to have a chat about it. I cultivate mushrooms and teach about it. Don't make the beds. You just need a long, hand shovel or hand planter shovel. I can tell you about some other types of mushrooms that you could try. Like you can put the wine cap spawn down on Cardborad, chicken wire on that, Straw on that, and make that the chicken coop bed. You will never have to clean chicken poop again. And finally the Hericium erinaceus is the lions mane you want. I have grown lions mane in doors and out doors. You don't need a sterile environment. You just need the right environment. LM loves air and does not do well without it. You need high FAE and high humidity.
I have never considered mushrooms in the chicken area. May have to explore that!
The mushrooms never grow in the coop due to foot traffic. they migrate the fruit to the yard.@@FastGardeningMichigan
@@Billdow00 They are very vigorous migraters. I've got them popping up 50 feet from where I originally put them in my garden. They may make a nice addition to my composting runs. Final product could be a bacteria and fungally present compost. Best of both worlds.
Don't waste them give them away1?
Freeze them?
IDK.
I loved this experiment.
Thanks for the video.
I ate them. Delicious
Super interesting -- my uncle has this wooded area . . . been thinking about mushrooms. Do deer eat a) the mushrooms, b) the hay?
No problems with deer but the italian oysters that popped up in my garden were devoured imediately by something. Might be chipmunks
@@FastGardeningMichigan the dreaded chipmunk! Super interesting shroom info -- very much appreciated! (personally very overwhelmed by all the 'stuff' the indoor shroom growers are doing).
Can we grow chiitake mushrooms this way? What anout chantarelle mushrooms?
Not shiitake. Those need wood. Chanterelle I'm not sure. Never grew them.. Yet.
Great job. Where can I get morels seed? Will morel grow like this?
Morels are extremely difficult to cultivate. They form relationships with the roots of trees.
Some have had success brewing morels into an aerobic tea and spreading on woodchips but doesn't seem to work for every one
I saw some online doing a slurry method and watering it down and pouring in many different shaded places. I guess the mushrooms can sprout within 100ft radius from where the slurry was poured.
Would this technique work for wine caps too do you think, and other types of mushrooms other than oyster? Planning a mushroom bed/ considering your bale method!
Wine caps need dirty soil to grow. They love to colonize the straw, but to fruit need to form a relationship with microbes in the soil. That's why when people layer wine caps beds most of them pop up from the ground elsewhere. I think as far as bales, oysters are the best choice BUT there's no harm in trying new things! I put lion's mane in one, not expecting much, but who knows!
You could inoculate wine caps into a bale then bury it with soil dug up from outside, or at least incorporate soil into the bale while inoculating. It's been called difficult or impossible to cultivate wine caps indoors but I just did a video of fantastic results growing inside. Experimentation leads to new discoveries
Horse manure (or hay grown for horses) is notorious for being contaminated. They use some of the most powerful and persistent herbicides available to give them the "perfect" hay the owners want.
If you dont see seeds or weeds it's got herbicides.
I guess the bales don’t get hot internally enough to do any damage?
No. They are dry so its mostly carbon and not enough nitrogen to heat up. Being in the shade helps too.
I want to share some information with you.
You must use rain fall,
Rainfall will remove all pesticide or insecticides from peddy.
Wait for rain to clean peddy.
Second suggestions is,
You imagine crud making process.
Curd is added to milk.
Same method you put another bunch of peddy on older ones, when you have harvested enough mashroom and you know it is becoming dry.
You just put new dry bunch bunch on top of first one.
Rain and atmosphere will do job. Rain will make it wet.
My request is put new peddy during rainfall or near rainfall.
Mashroom will spread automatically.
Again you remove some pieces from older bed of mashroom and put on new bed of mashroom.
Keep experimenting.
Very nice job.
Jay shree ram.
These stay outside in the woods and are exposed to all natural elements
Is it possible to grow amanita mushrooms in this or another way? I mean a bale of straw
Not sure! Haven't researched them yet
Electricity / lightning really shocks mushrooms into growing!👍
Shocks everything into growing. Had a sunflower grow 12 inches over night during a tornado warning. I get excited everytime I see lightning
@@FastGardeningMichigan Wonder if electroculture or those galvanised trellises help to conduct the ⚡🌩into the ground!
@@EasyEarPiano i find it interesting as an electrician. But i see no feasible way to test the theory. If you plant in a pot, it's not grounded so electrical charge has no reason to enter. If you plant in the ground, the whole area is grounded so it's hard to tell if the copper windings have any benefit vs. plant around it. Electricity is always searching for ground. Thats why you can grab live electric and not get shocked if you're wearing good shoes.
Just remembered a teenager in village in Sth Africa found a way to run a fridge and tv plus other electrical appliances using a rock. Wonder if adding basalt or rocks which transmit to the substrates could help attract lightning strikes during storms? Or would there be a risk of instant BBQ?
@@EasyEarPiano copper is the best conductor for the price. Unless you want to try gold but that a little more costly 😂
Instead of straw bells please advise on how l may use soyabean stocks then would also love step by step from begging
Same process as the bale. You could also layer it on the ground and add the spawn between layers. These are easy mushrooms to grow!
Around here, they only come out in the fall. But those are white oysters, not blues. I've grown the blues inside, but didnt work very well for me.
These are blue oysters from NorthSpore
What kind of grass
This is wheat straw
The costs and just sheer amount of fussing it takes with indoor mushrooms just does not seem worth it to me, another awesome video thankuuuu
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I want to take the spawn from the wild and grow it.
Genetic diversity!
Mushrooms can be dried and eaten like chips.
These tasted like fries cooked in almond oil. Me and my kid devoured them!
No interesting. But how will I get the ingredients for growing mushrooms
So interesting but how will I get the ingredients for growing mushrooms
@@user-cb5kf7ko9n there are suppliers that sell sawdust spawn online
Your audio a bit overdriven and clipping.
I know.. This mic is very inconsistent