what's more impressive than the technique he displays is the fact that he's having a coherent conversation with the audience while doing it! what a badass. R.I.P.
I got lessons from Jim when he was 83 and his speed and his lessons changed my drumming life forever. R.I.P. Jim. He also had a talented son (Harry Chapin) and his daughter is still a great singer and touring. A true show biz family of talent. Respect.
The best thing Jim Chapin did was write his book, Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer. Developing the mind comes first, then your hands will follow.
I've been trying to learn this technique for a long time....then eventually I just quit. After seeing this one video. This has taught me more than all the other videos combined and makes me want to learn it again. Thank you Jim and R.I.P
This has to be the best explanation i could find for the molar technique. I never thought of ghosting the left hand i can see how it would really help.
I remember watching this video, and realising I was already employing this approach without even realising it. It really helped break down exactly what was was going on.
I had the pleasure of meeting Jim a few times, and got a lesson or two with him. This was a long time ago (mid 90's) He picked out my first pro level snare for me. What a cool guy! It was me and 2 other world class drummers, who studied with him when they were kids. Great memories
Intent.. that's what you see in him, feel when he's playing. His intent. He cares about music, drumming, and teaching. No ego. Not for shiny rocks, fancy wheels. Paper with pictures of Presidents. His independence is amazing. Perfectly symmetrical. And tone. Good lord....what a drummer. RIP in Jim... the world needs more people like that. The story of him keeping a lesson while in the hospital...
What a classy guy! As a HS Biology teacher (and closet drummer) I really respect the can-do, all business teaching method he exudes! People DO listen to a person who is professional looking and as skillful as this human! Thanks!!!
The late singer Harry Chapin's ("Cats In The Cradle" "Taxi") father, who was a well-known drummer of his era. He was inspired by drummer Gene Krupa & later they played together. The difference between Jim & other drummers is that he taught, led seminars, educated & wrote a two-volume legendary drum instructional book that was the Bible to drummers. The (Samuel) Moeller Method -- a rudimentary method Chapin studied. It was respected by many percussionists. He did what Buddy Rich said he couldn't do -- teach drums. This book was great. I learned a lot from it when I didn't have one on one lessons. Chapin was posthumously inducted into the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame in 2011.
Both, depending on musical context. It is more useful at triplets than doubles. 3 for the price of 1. You can play 4 or 5 or more too, but the rebound gets soaked up and the ending notes can get a bit slurred.
I don't know much about the Moeller system, but I did study with the late great Buster Bailey. His approach was TOSS THE FIRST STROKE AND DROP THE OTHER GUYS IN THERE. Same effect but different approach.
thanks for posting a response to my comment on Jim Chapin. I understand the Moeller technique is a technique, not a style. I am not sure it matters when your body does not respond over years. We change and so should our approach to grip, stick control, strength, and musical sesnibilities to perform drum set. I hope you are well these days. best to you and yours* sincerely, Austin Centolella
I picked up the basic moeller really fast because I learned it differently that he's teaching it here. Rather that think of those as three separate strokes, think of it as one stroke, the down stroke. The others just result from the rebound of that initial stroke. You don't really use your wrist and fingers to make the resulting 2 strokes, you really just direct them. What helps is to just do the initial and let the stick bounce by itself. Then begin to control those bounces.
I didnt know he had died, how sad. :( He taught me the technique in a drum clinic here in sweden, i have a picture with me and him even. Amazing drummer, i remember he could barely walk (it was like 6 years ago), but when he began drumming it was as if he was 20 years old. Amazing, absolutely amazing.
@PhantomDrums917. one thing i have learned about moeller man is you have to be persistent every day 1 hour to 2 hours... i have been going out it for about 8 months now and its really coming together nicely but you have to have FREE STROKE tap STROKE down pat and whipping motion you need to have a good concept of what you are trying to achieve... in these three strokes you playing example FREE STROKE.. catch into hand like throwing a ball.and just keep at it.. don't stop know what u are playing
I think Moeller is excellent for speed and endurance (as the video title says), but not for playing in low volumes and slowly. On the other hand, I think "Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer" is an excellent book. That`s really useful.
i use traditional grip and i control the stick with the forefinger and the thumb (just traditional). Maybe at the beginning the stick will slide out of your forefinger but after a little practice you get it.
How can some of you not know that he grew up in a different time, when they talked with a different style. Some of you make me sad how critical you are, even of a wonderful man like this. STOP THE FUCKING HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that makes a lot of sense but maybe when getting the idea at the beginning it's good to break it down into the three strokes: initial, tap and rebound. But you're right, I think once it's up to speed it's one smooth movement and you get the resulting 3 strokes.
I studied with Joe Morello, who noted that Moeller technique is only useful if you're accenting alternate strokes. "What would you do if you had to execute two accents in a row with the same hand ?" Joe would point out. "Moeller has limited effectiveness," he would say. Anyone who has worked with Master Studies has quickly realized the limitations of this technique. Not knocking it by any means, certainly not minimizing Jim Chapin's talent, but rather commenting that Moeller is but one technique in a drummer's vast arsenal. It is by no means the only one.
+Dave Benning I forget the name of the studio but it was on Northfield Ave. in West Orange. I think it's now called NJ School of Percussion. I remember the waiting room filled with anxious students practicing before their lesson with the maestro. :)
Well, if you look closely he still is moving his elbows out but because he is doing it at such a high speed. at :24 you can really see his elbows move out because of a slower beat, and you can really hear those accents. I'm not so sure though, I've only been playing for 5 months or so.
I just feel the being able to play off the rebound expands your options, and not being able to limits them. Even Travis Barker can use the rebound probably, he just doesn't so he can play harder and swing his arms more.
I never had the chance to meet him/Sure he can continue to inspire/instruct anyone who is seriously trying to improve in drumming w/sticks/Can't hurt to explore options w/method/ stick control/I hope to find the words to translate my personal approach 4music/drum-set/I am more involved w/peripheral issues/personal interrelationship w/instrument(memory/personal strengths/limitations/musicality/choices) Inspired to find any discussion re: drumming/Very deep&soulful/ancient art form.
@PhantomDrums917 check out dave wekl advanced grip ! watch closely he is holding the stick witjh his middle finger & his thumb instead of the index finger letting the rebound do its work! hope it work! it did for me 270 bpm moeller stroke arrived today!
this could be due to where your holding the stick from the start. check out dave weckle's video on griping the stick on back to basics. you can find it on this site. i think this will help a bit on the grip issue you have. it worked for me.
No if you are able to finally grasp the moeller technique you will understand it, it is more than what he is playing which is what a lot of people dont understand, He's teaching the basic, It can be applied to the drumset. I cant do it, but have seen others that have.
Yeah,I control the fundamental with my wrist and then use my fingers for the other strokes. Is that right? I think i'll stick to the "Jelly system" lolz. I usually do exercises with my palm facing upwards and play strokes with single fingers working to my pinky. This "Moeller thing" I can't do.
Not to in any way discredit Mr. Chapin, but when he begins to play continuous singles with the accenting at around 3:15, I noticed that it's a different motion from when he is isolating each stroke at around 2:50 (which is almost like a traditional grip motion, but with matched). The motion he does at 3:15 seems to be like as if you were to do the motion with the bare hand. Just as observation!
What I enjoyed most was seeing Jim at the kit - he was an absolute badass on the drum kit ! The only issue I have with Moeller technique is that it’s very limited. If you’re not playing something with alternating accents, you’re out of luck using Moeller. Try playing Joe Morello’s Master Studies using Moeller ! LOL not happening.
I meant it more as that one should use the rebound when it's available. The heads on my toms are pretty loose, and since I've developed more ability to use rebound, playing on them has been easier. Obviously I have to compensate for a minimal rebound, but even using what rebound there is makes it easier.
This is so hard to do...I want to master this so bad but don't have the patients! Someone commented below asking how to apply this to your playing; I think it helps with your rolls around the kit and sharpens your technique. I would imagine you can apply this to the toms and hi hat while adding a bass stroke right?
Good point. However, if you watch videos of Dave Weckl explaining it, you can see that it requires you to use your wrist in a natural, relaxed, almost effortless fashion, rather than in a tense, tight, forceful manner which can cause injury. In any case, as speed increases, you start using your fingers alot more than the wrist. I do recommend that you watch Weckl's eplanation of this - with all due respect to Mr.Chapin, this vid is a bit dated and things may have changed for the better.
This guy is the TEACHER_if you study percussion in college, you will have to study in depth his "Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer" book-a must for any drummer, let alone the jazz drummers. It is the bible for serious drummers. I studied it for a year and didn't scratch the surface-you can spend your whole life perfecting your playing with those books alone
You said yourself that you guide the rebound. The point of moeller is to whip your arm so that with the stroke you can get three strokes from the resulting rebound. What I was saying is that when learning how to do it, it's best to just do that whip and let the other two just bounce because it helps develop the feel of allowing the rebounds to happen and just guiding them, but you wouldn't play like that. Just like you wouldn't play the way he breaks it down in this video.
my right hand moellers automatically, i never even realized that thats whati was doing until i saw videos on it. You'd be surprised at the ammount of drummers, especially self taught ones, who use this and other techniques without even thinking about it, it being something that just came naturally to them as they learned.
There is a validity to this instruction, but it involves the spinal column, back/neck alignment seated, and arms mobility to acquire more than holding a stick approach. The stick is an extension but your grip is is the main thing. It is about not being tense or squeezing too hard while breathing and exerting a total body force. This takes more than a follow up tap. I am not a drum corp style. I am thinking drumset and musicality/groove/flow.
I got yer sack right here. Gotta problem wid dat? Didn't think so. Listen buddy, I heard some things - doesn't matter - I just heard some things. You know, from some bass players. Anyway, we're not gonna have that problem any more are we? No, dat's a good guitar player, didn't think we're gonna have any more discussion on this. Well, listen, thanks for having this little chat. Wanna eat? Let's go eat.
the stick is always perfectly positioned concerning how high it is going in space and the exact snare point it is hitting. Art is ridiculously precise on that - while Buddy was more relaxed, imo. But this is a very small detail. Can't think of anything beyond that very little observational detail.
I can't remember where... but I clearly remember that quote. I'll try to rescue it's source (but probably, I'll not find it). It was a very non-fortunate assertion. No doubt. There is one very specific thing that I really believe Art's left hand was superior at: total control of it's position. When I see an Art Verdi single stroke roll,
what's more impressive than the technique he displays is the fact that he's having a coherent conversation with the audience while doing it!
what a badass.
R.I.P.
"Advanced Techniques For the Modern Drummer" Best book I ever bought. Thank you, Jim! RIP
I got lessons from Jim when he was 83 and his speed and his lessons changed my drumming life forever. R.I.P. Jim. He also had a talented son (Harry Chapin) and his daughter is still a great singer and touring. A true show biz family of talent. Respect.
The best thing Jim Chapin did was write his book, Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer. Developing the mind comes first, then your hands will follow.
crazy uncle most of us drummers wish we had growing up! LOL
Brian
We did have him.
I am thankful every 4 set night for this video.
Facts man 🙌🏻🙌🏻❤️❤️ Could watch Mr Chapin all day long.
He's not crazy he's dead u drummer
I've been trying to learn this technique for a long time....then eventually I just quit. After seeing this one video. This has taught me more than all the other videos combined and makes me want to learn it again. Thank you Jim and R.I.P
His entire hand control is phenomenal!!! When he ghosts the notes for the triplets, the ghost hand just uses fingers, and the speed is excellent!
This has to be the best explanation i could find for the molar technique. I never thought of ghosting the left hand i can see how it would really help.
I remember watching this video, and realising I was already employing this approach without even realising it. It really helped break down exactly what was was going on.
Just phenomenal!!! Have seen this many times and still wowed! One of the greatest influences of our time! RIP Jim!
I had the pleasure of meeting Jim a few times, and got a lesson or two with him. This was a long time ago (mid 90's) He picked out my first pro level snare for me. What a cool guy! It was me and 2 other world class drummers, who studied with him when they were kids. Great memories
A true legend. Had the pleasure of meeting him at my old music college in Leeds - an absolute gent & master of technique.
Thanks for posting.
Oh my god!! My overall speed and control has improved so much because of this!!! Thank you Jim!!!!!!!
Intent.. that's what you see in him, feel when he's playing. His intent.
He cares about music, drumming, and teaching. No ego.
Not for shiny rocks, fancy wheels. Paper with pictures of Presidents.
His independence is amazing. Perfectly symmetrical. And tone. Good lord....what a drummer.
RIP in Jim... the world needs more people like that. The story of him keeping a lesson while in the hospital...
I took one lesson from Jim, and i've carried it with me my whole career....great educator.......Great asset to the world of drums!!!!!
Miss this guy....My teacher and good friend.Always answered the phone,Always there to help.
Look at the height of his snare as well it is perfectly lined up with the wrist motion and balance of a human being…. This gentleman is a master!!!!
I can only hope to live as long as Mr. Chapin and to have his great strength and use of hands as he demonstrates here.
Great demo by a great drummer, teacher and author.
What a classy guy! As a HS Biology teacher (and closet drummer) I really respect the can-do, all business teaching method he exudes! People DO listen to a person who is professional looking and as skillful as this human! Thanks!!!
this man inspired me from the day i started drumming
rest in peace man
love ya
the floor recognizes the gentleman from Massachusetts.
Jim is a legend. He has created the moeller technique for all drummers
There's a lot more on this. My teacher had the whole video. This great. Thanks for uploading!!
Jim's knowledge is timeless, as is the man himself. Thanks Jim for your wonderful contribution.
flawless technique
R.I.P Jim, one of the most inspirational drummers of all time. Stunning.
The late singer Harry Chapin's ("Cats In The Cradle" "Taxi") father, who was a well-known drummer of his era.
He was inspired by drummer Gene Krupa & later they played together.
The difference between Jim & other drummers is that he taught, led seminars, educated & wrote a two-volume legendary drum instructional book that was the Bible to drummers. The (Samuel) Moeller Method -- a rudimentary method Chapin studied. It was respected by many percussionists.
He did what Buddy Rich said he couldn't do -- teach drums. This book was great. I learned a lot from it when I didn't have one on one lessons. Chapin was posthumously inducted into the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame in 2011.
Thank you for posting jim's lessons.
Its helped out my playing.
thank you jim,
Both, depending on musical context. It is more useful at triplets than doubles. 3 for the price of 1. You can play 4 or 5 or more too, but the rebound gets soaked up and the ending notes can get a bit slurred.
Great explanation and demo...very clear and direct.
I don't know much about the Moeller system, but I did study with the late great Buster Bailey. His approach was TOSS THE FIRST STROKE AND DROP THE OTHER GUYS IN THERE. Same effect but different approach.
thanks for posting a response to my comment on Jim Chapin. I understand the Moeller technique is a technique, not a style. I am not sure it matters when your body does not respond over years. We change and so should our approach to grip, stick control, strength, and musical sesnibilities to perform drum set.
I hope you are well these days. best to you and yours* sincerely, Austin Centolella
I picked up the basic moeller really fast because I learned it differently that he's teaching it here. Rather that think of those as three separate strokes, think of it as one stroke, the down stroke. The others just result from the rebound of that initial stroke. You don't really use your wrist and fingers to make the resulting 2 strokes, you really just direct them. What helps is to just do the initial and let the stick bounce by itself. Then begin to control those bounces.
The old boy's nailed it.Fairplay.Good upload.
I didnt know he had died, how sad. :( He taught me the technique in a drum clinic here in sweden, i have a picture with me and him even. Amazing drummer, i remember he could barely walk (it was like 6 years ago), but when he began drumming it was as if he was 20 years old. Amazing, absolutely amazing.
Jim Chapin, was the man... I wish I could have taken lessons from him in person... Would have been awsome..
Yeah. I just watched Derrick Pope's video. He does a fantastic job of explaining moeller technique.
sick hands! O.G. status
@PhantomDrums917.
one thing i have learned about moeller man is you have to be persistent every day 1 hour to 2 hours... i have been going out it for about 8 months now and its really coming together nicely but you have to have FREE STROKE tap STROKE down pat and whipping motion you need to have a good concept of what you are trying to achieve... in these three strokes you playing example FREE STROKE.. catch into hand like throwing a ball.and just keep at it.. don't stop know what u are playing
This just expanded my horizons
Thank you so much! Greetings from Bosnia!!!
Haha! Love the "fledgling bird" analogy! I'm going to steal that one day.
phenominal power for a guy who must have at least been in his late 70s when this was recorded RIP Jim
A Giant amongst us all! RIP sir.
Mr. Chapin you are the best across the history
I knew Jim, Harry Chapin's dad....this man was a genius....and he is sorely missed..
His technic, insane
Also his technique is insane.
Thank you for this!
i've tried so hard to buy this.
But they never made it on DVD and they've discontinued the VHS.
dude! he keeps time prefectly while giving his monologue... crazy
If any one guy has mastered Moeller Technique, It was Mr. Chapin. One of the greatest teachers of the art as well.
I think Moeller is excellent for speed and endurance (as the video title says), but not for playing in low volumes and slowly.
On the other hand, I think "Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer" is an excellent book. That`s really useful.
Thanks for the upload.
i use traditional grip and i control the stick with the forefinger and the thumb (just traditional). Maybe at the beginning the stick will slide out of your forefinger but after a little practice you get it.
Pure Genius...they're never be another.
How can some of you not know that he grew up in a different time, when they talked with a different style. Some of you make me sad how critical you are, even of a wonderful man like this. STOP THE FUCKING HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that makes a lot of sense but maybe when getting the idea at the beginning it's good to break it down into the three strokes: initial, tap and rebound. But you're right, I think once it's up to speed it's one smooth movement and you get the resulting 3 strokes.
I wish he was my drum tutor
You know, if I was the world's best drummer and had you as a fan, I'd really have to seriously consider where I was going wrong!
I studied with Joe Morello, who noted that Moeller technique is only useful if you're accenting alternate strokes. "What would you do if you had to execute two accents in a row with the same hand ?" Joe would point out. "Moeller has limited effectiveness," he would say. Anyone who has worked with Master Studies has quickly realized the limitations of this technique. Not knocking it by any means, certainly not minimizing Jim Chapin's talent, but rather commenting that Moeller is but one technique in a drummer's vast arsenal. It is by no means the only one.
Joe Morello? At Big Beat Studio?
+Dave Benning I forget the name of the studio but it was on Northfield Ave. in West Orange. I think it's now called NJ School of Percussion. I remember the waiting room filled with anxious students practicing before their lesson with the maestro. :)
only because Morello said it.............it not means that its true ;)
This is the reason my singles are fast with alternating accents but when I need singles without accent I'm nowhere near the same speed
Well, if you look closely he still is moving his elbows out but because he is doing it at such a high speed. at :24 you can really see his elbows move out because of a slower beat, and you can really hear those accents. I'm not so sure though, I've only been playing for 5 months or so.
I just feel the being able to play off the rebound expands your options, and not being able to limits them. Even Travis Barker can use the rebound probably, he just doesn't so he can play harder and swing his arms more.
I never had the chance to meet him/Sure he can continue to inspire/instruct anyone who is seriously trying to improve in drumming w/sticks/Can't hurt to explore options w/method/ stick control/I hope to find the words to translate my personal approach 4music/drum-set/I am more involved w/peripheral issues/personal interrelationship w/instrument(memory/personal strengths/limitations/musicality/choices)
Inspired to find any discussion re: drumming/Very deep&soulful/ancient art form.
@PhantomDrums917 check out dave wekl advanced grip ! watch closely he is holding the stick witjh his middle finger & his thumb instead of the index finger letting the rebound do its work! hope it work! it did for me 270 bpm moeller stroke arrived today!
A true icon! RIP Jim!!!!
this could be due to where your holding the stick from the start. check out dave weckle's video on griping the stick on back to basics. you can find it on this site. i think this will help a bit on the grip issue you have. it worked for me.
BEST DRUMMING HANDS IVE EVER SEEN!!!!
No if you are able to finally grasp the moeller technique you will understand it, it is more than what he is playing which is what a lot of people dont understand, He's teaching the basic,
It can be applied to the drumset.
I cant do it, but have seen others that have.
... I KNEW I LOVED THOS GUY FROM AN EARLY AGE! And of COURSE he wrote THE book on drumming!!!!
He is ambidextrous. Can sign his name with either hand. That's a gift. Most great drummers are.
What a complete load of shit.
Man, his hands are impeccable.
Yeah,I control the fundamental with my wrist and then use my fingers for the other strokes.
Is that right?
I think i'll stick to the "Jelly system" lolz.
I usually do exercises with my palm facing upwards and play strokes with single fingers working to my pinky.
This "Moeller thing" I can't do.
Not to in any way discredit Mr. Chapin, but when he begins to play continuous singles with the accenting at around 3:15, I noticed that it's a different motion from when he is isolating each stroke at around 2:50 (which is almost like a traditional grip motion, but with matched). The motion he does at 3:15 seems to be like as if you were to do the motion with the bare hand.
Just as observation!
What I enjoyed most was seeing Jim at the kit - he was an absolute badass on the drum kit !
The only issue I have with Moeller technique is that it’s very limited. If you’re not playing something with alternating accents, you’re out of luck using Moeller. Try playing Joe Morello’s Master Studies using Moeller ! LOL not happening.
I meant it more as that one should use the rebound when it's available. The heads on my toms are pretty loose, and since I've developed more ability to use rebound, playing on them has been easier. Obviously I have to compensate for a minimal rebound, but even using what rebound there is makes it easier.
My instructor was taught by Chapin and im learning this now.... its not hard to learn if its the first technique you learn lol
Rip master drummer!thanks for all,god bless you!
You respect dead people not for being dead, but for the contributions they made to the rest of us while they were alive.
JC has serious control and strength. All drummers should take the time to develop those two things.
how do you grip the stick for traditional but still be able to chop it
HE'S SO WELL DRESSED!
Inspiration running through all our veins good moeller lesson
This is so hard to do...I want to master this so bad but don't have the patients! Someone commented below asking how to apply this to your playing; I think it helps with your rolls around the kit and sharpens your technique. I would imagine you can apply this to the toms and hi hat while adding a bass stroke right?
Yea man it adds flavor to your chops
WHY on earth would anyone dislike this video? They must not be drummers...
Good point. However, if you watch videos of Dave Weckl explaining it, you can see that it requires you to use your wrist in a natural, relaxed, almost effortless fashion, rather than in a tense, tight, forceful manner which can cause injury. In any case, as speed increases, you start using your fingers alot more than the wrist. I do recommend that you watch Weckl's eplanation of this - with all due respect to Mr.Chapin, this vid is a bit dated and things may have changed for the better.
he's 92 and still kickin ass!!!
@realcucus Will do. Got a direct link handy? :)
JIM CHAPIN! WAT A BOSS!!!
I LOVE YOU JIM CHAPIN!
This guy is the TEACHER_if you study percussion in college, you will have to study in depth his "Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer" book-a must for any drummer, let alone the jazz drummers. It is the bible for serious drummers. I studied it for a year and didn't scratch the surface-you can spend your whole life perfecting your playing with those books alone
You said yourself that you guide the rebound. The point of moeller is to whip your arm so that with the stroke you can get three strokes from the resulting rebound.
What I was saying is that when learning how to do it, it's best to just do that whip and let the other two just bounce because it helps develop the feel of allowing the rebounds to happen and just guiding them, but you wouldn't play like that. Just like you wouldn't play the way he breaks it down in this video.
These Jim Chapin videos could be great, but they SUCK because the audio and video are out of sync.
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my right hand moellers automatically, i never even realized that thats whati was doing until i saw videos on it.
You'd be surprised at the ammount of drummers, especially self taught ones, who use this and other techniques without even thinking about it, it being something that just came naturally to them as they learned.
There is a validity to this instruction, but it involves the spinal column, back/neck alignment seated, and arms mobility to acquire more than holding a stick approach. The stick is an extension but your grip is is the main thing. It is about not being tense or squeezing too hard while breathing and exerting a total body force. This takes more than a follow up tap. I am not a drum corp style. I am thinking drumset and musicality/groove/flow.
Curious question:When playing the first "whipping motion" on the single hand triplet, is the second and third note played bounced or stroked?
This is religion for me
😂
where do i put my sticks? how about right under my sac
I got yer sack right here. Gotta problem wid dat? Didn't think so. Listen buddy, I heard some things - doesn't matter - I just heard some things. You know, from some bass players. Anyway, we're not gonna have that problem any more are we? No, dat's a good guitar player, didn't think we're gonna have any more discussion on this. Well, listen, thanks for having this little chat. Wanna eat? Let's go eat.
Are u a drunk Russian?
calm down dude
LMFAO Just shove them up in there!!
Thats "Sac"religious!
the stick is always perfectly positioned concerning how high it is going in space and the exact snare point it is hitting. Art is ridiculously precise on that - while Buddy was more relaxed, imo. But this is a very small detail. Can't think of anything beyond that very little observational detail.
I can't remember where... but I clearly remember that quote. I'll try to rescue it's source (but probably, I'll not find it). It was a very non-fortunate assertion. No doubt. There is one very specific thing that I really believe Art's left hand was superior at: total control of it's position. When I see an Art Verdi single stroke roll,
amazing
I meant do you ever do three srokes in both hands, instead of using finger control in the other