lazer updates - October 8, 2022

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  • test out the new osu!mania skin: github.com/ppy/osu#running-osu
    read the full changelog: osu.ppy.sh/home/changelog/laz...
    peppy and pishifat walk through some of the most recent changes in lazer!
    lazer is the next major update to osu!. learn about it: • what is lazer?
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  • @alatreph
    @alatreph ปีที่แล้ว +1249

    lmao finding out that some of the key visual elements were just completely wrong after so many years is hilarious

    • @DeanHerbertMooCow
      @DeanHerbertMooCow ปีที่แล้ว +400

      yep! it's the kind of things you don't notice until you do, then you wonder how you ever missed it :)

    • @OMEGAXU
      @OMEGAXU ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ppy add the 32bit version

    • @OMEGAXU
      @OMEGAXU ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plz

    • @OMEGAXU
      @OMEGAXU ปีที่แล้ว

      Iwant to play it

    • @EmilM-pb2hn
      @EmilM-pb2hn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OMEGAXU y

  • @MiguelPereira-yw8rg
    @MiguelPereira-yw8rg ปีที่แล้ว +1174

    I always joked that lazer was not complete until smoke came out... Shoutout to goodtrailer for making lazer playable!

  • @spr_
    @spr_ ปีที่แล้ว +51

    when the smoke is sus 0:25

    • @DJruslan4ic
      @DJruslan4ic ปีที่แล้ว +4

      **Triangles but arranged to amoungus theme song (trap remix)**

  • @userlog2474
    @userlog2474 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    This is a great step toward making lazer feel like classic osu!.
    Also, I always wondered why lazer felt a little off. Thank you for clarifying and fixing.

  • @uwu3504
    @uwu3504 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I was heart broken when I couldn't draw during gameplay, read somewhere that the team didn't plan on adding it. So glad to see it's back :D

  • @terra_i5575
    @terra_i5575 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    I love watching lazer develop

    • @MHX11
      @MHX11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same especially with these entertaining update vids

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN ปีที่แล้ว +3

      now maybe peep a game dev stream live!? i know most are confused as what's going on but it's interesting stuff. aside from ppy many indie dev's stream them doing the thing and even play testing a stage or fixing bugs all the game dev stuff!
      And GDC (game developer conference) talks are awesome again kinda boring for most but still cool stuff.

    • @j.ivan42
      @j.ivan42 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

  • @Rezeee
    @Rezeee ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Thank you for the mania revamp! Playing through the mania playlists was a pain before but this should hopefully make it easier, I also found the long notes to be very janky but i thought it was just my pc and its not an issue for everyone else, glad to see that there was actually some bugs to it, playing LN maps in lazer was more of a pain than stable.

    • @albertfrengki
      @albertfrengki ปีที่แล้ว

      I think just remove the tail (i use transparent image for this purpose)

  • @ikkue
    @ikkue ปีที่แล้ว +54

    People are talking about the argon mania skin, I'm just here excited that I can finally have the in-game leaderboard permanently on. Also, I'm glad "Display highest combo rather than current combo for local play on leaderboard" got implemented after I left a discussion on it!
    Edit: Nevermind, it's just to toggle it off completely :( Please add a toggle to have it expanded permanently without having to hold down a key.

  • @i77-
    @i77- ปีที่แล้ว +37

    regarding the osu!mania skin:
    - make lower keymodes' columns wider and scale it up each keymode
    no one plays 4k with that thin of a playfield (at least at the top level)
    (for example: 4k = 65, 5k = 55, 6k = 48, 7k = 44)
    - get rid of the long note tails
    it just adds more unnecessary visual noise and makes the player confuse regular notes with releases (same thing as why there are no slider ends in the osu!std skin)
    please look for inspiration in the skins osu!mania players actually play with

    • @_TripleAAA_
      @_TripleAAA_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep I 100% agree, the end parts of the hold notes is very confusing

    • @Zekronz
      @Zekronz ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. Long note tails doesn't really make sense for a bar skin imo.

  • @pekorasfuturehusband
    @pekorasfuturehusband ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I don’t know why but I’m really enjoying these lazer update videos. Glad to see Lazer is slowly coming together. Keep up the good work!!!

  • @VoidZRD
    @VoidZRD ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1:06 i feel nostalgic hear pishi almost describing new tutorial

  • @DigBipper188
    @DigBipper188 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Just played a few maps in lazer and I can confirm... it's insane how much easier timing interpretation is on this version now the elements have been improved!!

    • @MrTomyCJ
      @MrTomyCJ ปีที่แล้ว

      Some thinds definitely improved, but don't you still feel like the follow circles in the sliders are wrong?

  • @ykiiren9477
    @ykiiren9477 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    this vid made me feel loved [i get 0 attention irl]

    • @1nvm
      @1nvm ปีที่แล้ว +5

      well yea u play osu

  • @turd0420
    @turd0420 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Boutta drink water and eliminate circles. Thank you again pishifat and peppy

  • @_c2
    @_c2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wasn't expecting for the argon skin to actually be readable on osu!mania... now if you excuse me, I'll be clearing gamma with this

  • @ItsPForPea
    @ItsPForPea ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I don't know why but I feel so happy when Peppy mentioned Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan! It's such a good game and I wish it got more recognition in the osu! community.

  • @cameleon._.
    @cameleon._. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:10 The game changing edition: legendary miss.

  • @callmespaghet
    @callmespaghet ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i just updated lazer and it just feels way better. I had a lot of problems to adapt to lazer but i didnt understand why until you told me in this update. Now i played for an hour and already adapted to the new update, so thanks for that! The return of smoke is also pretty nice, although i dont really use it that often. Only thing i still miss now is the stable map sorting system, which just makes a lot more sense than the new one, would really enjoy its return

  • @jofoxthecat727
    @jofoxthecat727 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm literally waiting each week for the new update video xD Pls keep on making them even after Lazers release!

    • @zaboss.
      @zaboss. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its funny to say but yeah same, I love these videos haha XD

    • @gutoguto0873
      @gutoguto0873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely, it just feels so good to hear about the changes.

    • @harukarunninggirl
      @harukarunninggirl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same

  • @nicosavlar
    @nicosavlar ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome changed as always, but kinda weird how the hitcircle is larger than the slider in argon.
    Also thanks for the flashlight omg, it was completely unnplayable before in comparison to stable :D

  • @jennassexdungeon
    @jennassexdungeon ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The mania argon skin looks like legos and it could never be better

  • @StackoTra
    @StackoTra ปีที่แล้ว +5

    can't believe this is Lazer Update!

  • @Nick-qb9zv
    @Nick-qb9zv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate these updates. Always good to see patch notes in such a digestable format.

  • @acreams
    @acreams ปีที่แล้ว +11

    About making gameplay feel more like stable, I noticed that in Lazer after clicking a circle the fade out animation goes into the circle and decreases in size while in stable the circle gets enlarged and expands outwards.

    • @DeanHerbertMooCow
      @DeanHerbertMooCow ปีที่แล้ว +18

      that's just the argon skin. you can use a classic skin if you prefer outwards expanding.

    • @Zhenmoron
      @Zhenmoron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DeanHerbertMooCow can skinners make the fade out animation like argon's?

    • @DeanHerbertMooCow
      @DeanHerbertMooCow ปีที่แล้ว +12

      eventually

  • @StefKRah
    @StefKRah ปีที่แล้ว

    I kept seeing those lazer update videos on my recommended tab on ytb, finally it made me get the lazer version after i haven't played osu! for more than one year :)

  • @Dondela_a
    @Dondela_a ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never played stable, osumania (Lazer) default skin is the normal one from the beginning. But damn, I loved what I see, I'll update as soon as possible to play.

  • @aoshi9254
    @aoshi9254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for making videos like this every week

  • @Daemonll
    @Daemonll ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love these lazer updates! :)

  • @Corne2Plum3
    @Corne2Plum3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    _2:37__ Why the arrows on the notes aren't pointing in the same direction with upscroll?_

  • @notappfarmer
    @notappfarmer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job! Looking forward to play osu!lazer 😉

  • @miwiki6
    @miwiki6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SMOKE IS BACK LET'S GOOOOOO!

  • @kemae
    @kemae ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love seeing other gamemodes getting more attention! ily peppy

  • @HellcatFTW
    @HellcatFTW ปีที่แล้ว +3

    finally, lazer is complete with smoke.

  • @FlamingTX
    @FlamingTX ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That mania skin makes me want to play osu again

  • @ETGamer0157
    @ETGamer0157 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally mania is getting recognized and playable again!

  • @chrispham6599
    @chrispham6599 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Osu Mania looking SO FREAKING CLEAN THOUGH

  • @AstoundLikesWoW
    @AstoundLikesWoW ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the osu standard changes to make it more like classic. I knew it felt different, I didn't know what though. I'll have to try this.

  • @xahnmx50
    @xahnmx50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the end When He Says “drink some water” killed Me 💀

  • @supernenechi
    @supernenechi ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using Lazer exclusively for a while now. I didn't explicitly notice the dimmed circles, but now that you mention it, actually that makes sense

  • @faner255
    @faner255 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so fucking hyped now about mania getting some attention when it comes to updates thx ppy!

  • @mecolayposting9315
    @mecolayposting9315 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the mania skin looks A LOT better, even if I'm not a bar skin player, it feels like a lot of improvement

  • @NotAbsoluteSpoon
    @NotAbsoluteSpoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think a good idea for mania would be is to choose what type of skin type you want like circle bar arrow or diamond it'd be a good idea especially for new players

  • @osuplaeyurreallygood
    @osuplaeyurreallygood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love these update videos

  • @Sylphvie
    @Sylphvie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Default mania skin is finally playable🙏😊

  • @evangelion_guy
    @evangelion_guy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I didn’t realise how much people like smoke" -peppy

    • @_c2
      @_c2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I like getting myself high (real)

  • @nick1752
    @nick1752 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really good update!!

  • @DefaultMushroom
    @DefaultMushroom ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even play osu! but this showed up in my recommendeds and the editing was really nice

  • @Bossgodora
    @Bossgodora ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HOLY FUCK SMOKE IS BACK

  • @nickelshark8163
    @nickelshark8163 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been wanting to play on Lazer more but as a mania player it was hard to play it for more than a couple songs. I'm definitely going to give it another try soon.

  • @jyunni
    @jyunni ปีที่แล้ว

    this is why i love osu! lazer. nice update!

  • @blumaNine
    @blumaNine ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pretty huge, great job

  • @Spiritwonder420
    @Spiritwonder420 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holyshit mania is finally getting some love on Lazer honestly I gave up on it a long time ago and just switched to djmax will give it a try later again

  • @Mahiro-ID
    @Mahiro-ID ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can mania mode add a invisible hitbox on mobile ver I'ts hard to click on touchscreen very small

  • @lazyh0rse
    @lazyh0rse ปีที่แล้ว

    omg, this is exactly my feeling playing this update, this version really reminds me of classic osu. Which made the gameplay a lot more immersive

  • @bamboozled614
    @bamboozled614 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in love with these videos

  • @spacestone29
    @spacestone29 ปีที่แล้ว

    imho about the 5/7/9k in mania: there should be an option to narrow the even numbered rows like in traditional BEMANI games

  • @xos3481
    @xos3481 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wondered why laser felt slightly off but now i see why and glad it's fixed. Gonna be using laser lots more now feels amazing to play.

  • @centdemeern1
    @centdemeern1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OH MY GOD THE SMOKE IS BACK HELL YEAH
    I always loved screwing around with it during breaks and being risky with it during gameplay to make my replays more entertaining for the 0 people watching :)

  • @NatannielEC
    @NatannielEC ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how the updates is presented

  • @CosmoBurst
    @CosmoBurst ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bug on mobile: If you are trying to delete/duplicate/edit a map (right click on PC) there is no way to do the action. (other than options menu, but the bug is still there :\)

  • @qwxtfr
    @qwxtfr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally mania is getting updates

  • @therealsuper5828
    @therealsuper5828 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these changes!

  • @arkfish
    @arkfish ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the new argon skin, but I feel like the notes in std take too long to fade out when you hit them. Sometimes it can trip you up and make you instinctually go to a note that's still fading out, especially on your first try on a map or on fast jump sequences.

  • @GivzzProductions
    @GivzzProductions ปีที่แล้ว

    pishifat telling me to go drink water got me feelin some type of way

  • @gobble_gang
    @gobble_gang ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The lazer mania skin has me hyped for what custom skins can look like

  • @YMilkshake
    @YMilkshake ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I feel like Lazer is now really close to stable, first it felt really different, but now it's improved so much!

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN ปีที่แล้ว +2

      well it's still has kinks that need to be worked out, tweaked or altered but it's getting good fast holy heck.

  • @supersophisticated9943
    @supersophisticated9943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, this was released on my birthday!

  • @pangetpampam8272
    @pangetpampam8272 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only problem left for me with laser visually speaking is the score counter and life bar at the top, I wish they'd make it look more inline with the rest of argon

  • @nizdren9540
    @nizdren9540 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I felt the lazer is running better and faster after the update. it was sooo heavy

  • @onyxiris6451
    @onyxiris6451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mania argon looks beautiful

  • @MoutonBinoclard
    @MoutonBinoclard ปีที่แล้ว

    You should put an option for removing the colors or editing them in game, monochrome can be cool somtimes

  • @axys6771
    @axys6771 ปีที่แล้ว

    excited for lazer

  • @jennassexdungeon
    @jennassexdungeon ปีที่แล้ว

    could you guys add optimizations to lazer? like adding an option to remove some animations? (like the moving triangles in the menus)

  • @waozer
    @waozer ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you add a way to use only bezier and hard slider lengths in the editor? I can't share my map with any of my friends if I use the perfect circle mode, which doesn't work on regular osu. Having an option to only use the regular osu slider lengths or whatever they're called would be very nice. It's a pain to constantly edit them and change them to bezier.

  • @TheLeft4Dead2Player
    @TheLeft4Dead2Player ปีที่แล้ว

    I play a reasonable amount of Flashlight and I am so so glad these changes were made - I thought for sure how it was before, was how the team wanted Flashlight to work moving forward, and was one of the main things that kept me away from lazer for the past few years.
    Appreciate these updates a lot as it really excites and amazes me just how far lazer has come.

  • @ThisIsRust
    @ThisIsRust ปีที่แล้ว

    smoke will forever be the best feature in oss

  • @Ericben1087
    @Ericben1087 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure if it was from a Lazer vs a computer update, but my audio offset was like -300 before, but now -80ms sounds right. Still too far off to play with hitsounds, but is still way better.

  • @ricememes
    @ricememes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should make the tile presses for mobile mania. Like how roblox games do it when your on mobile, how there is tiles across the screen instead of you having to directly press the notes.

  • @testhekid
    @testhekid ปีที่แล้ว

    finally lazer mania updates :D

  • @Mocxing
    @Mocxing ปีที่แล้ว

    wait what?!?! I seriously just downloaded Osu! Lazer yesterday randomly, and I have been playing on the Argon 2022 Skin it's great! :o

  • @ArisanKomplek
    @ArisanKomplek ปีที่แล้ว

    knowing they gonna update mania mode on lazer soon is great, now I have a reason to try it out again after a long time.
    the current (or the last time I played it) mania mode on lazer is just unplayable ngl.

  • @Faath2
    @Faath2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:28 im gonna pretend that I didnt see anything

  • @leekorner5854
    @leekorner5854 ปีที่แล้ว

    it might be cool to be able to change the column colors for mania

  • @frozenco2_
    @frozenco2_ ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the water check

  • @apr1l-813
    @apr1l-813 ปีที่แล้ว

    smoke makes me want to play osu again
    best feature man i swear

  • @skameyka2414
    @skameyka2414 ปีที่แล้ว

    there are 2 bindings for each key but only 1 for smoke key, i cant use it when i use different keyset

  • @miwiki6
    @miwiki6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    osu!mania is pretty playable now i guess, woah!

    • @starbreak__
      @starbreak__ ปีที่แล้ว

      is it? i kinda want to try lazer mania if that's the case

  • @herb._.
    @herb._. ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a problem with argon that after clicking a circle theres kind of a psuedo-hit lighting effect even when you have hit lighting off, its kind of distracting.

  • @MrTomyCJ
    @MrTomyCJ ปีที่แล้ว

    The sliders still feel quite different from the original osu! , I think it's the way the follow circle appears and dissapears.
    Some other things: the keybind to pause the music while in the home menu is missing, I would love to be able to use the in-game cursor also while in menus (not only during gameplay), the default cursor sensitivity is way off (hig. pres. mouse on), compared to the cursor sensitivity outside of the game (like 2 or 3 times slower in osu), and in-menu performance is still pretty bad. I know it will be worse than the original osu, but that does not mean it shouldn't run well on a not too old pc with a not too old graphics card.

  • @namthezoo
    @namthezoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the argon skin is really a banger ngl

  • @saladpoo
    @saladpoo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    new default mania skin looks pretty good ngl. one thing i would like to add, is that there needs to be better touch controls for mania and standard. it is very hard to hit streams on touch screen and very hard to play mania on touch screen too.

  • @deichuuh2480
    @deichuuh2480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very cooll now

  • @raze_sky
    @raze_sky ปีที่แล้ว

    mania on lazer is still hard for mobile perhaps any additional button in future updates

  • @R1L1.
    @R1L1. ปีที่แล้ว

    Feels a lot a like standard now but the sad part is you have to buy a gpu or lazer is not playable, I remember hearing people say lazer was gonna be optimised better and run better but some how it stutters more

  • @hentai3470
    @hentai3470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    smoke is out yay

  • @trioz1819
    @trioz1819 ปีที่แล้ว

    this update is a game changer literaly for osumania

  • @GalluZ
    @GalluZ ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know how to set up osu lazer on a table to so its stylus doesn't count as clicks? I wanna use the included stylus for my S7 FE, but unless I hover the screen with it, I can't press it on the screen while using a keyboard to register the clicks.
    Also the performance is almost sub-optimal, barely hitting 60 fps in this hardware, and there's not much stuff I could do in the graphics setting either.

  • @Mye_kuwu
    @Mye_kuwu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finaly the smoke is here, i realy love New skin

  • @RainStorm2
    @RainStorm2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow thats cool i hope now the original osu will have a feature to switch to lazer

  • @vtntgaming
    @vtntgaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice update!