One Piece Creator Is QUITTING On The Story, And I Can't Blame Him.

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  • @samuek607
    @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can't read, so I hit private when I meant to publish this lol.
    I messed up something huge when writing this script, so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I'll probably get called out on it and have to make an apology video, but this one took way too much work to throw away, so I'll live with it😭

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only messed up on the timeline, I stand on every message I sent.

  • @srensen9948sander
    @srensen9948sander 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    First time hearing that oda ain't using enough details in his manga. Absolutely bunckers

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's factual. Recent One Piece has been nothing compared to the earlier part of the story that set everything up.

    • @KinoKwan17
      @KinoKwan17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@samuek607the details in the latter part is the recall. He set it up and he never forget.
      His event and character recall is out of this world.
      Imagine, bringing back Crocodile the perfect person to create the Cross Guild.
      Even Doflamingo, cannot think of Creating Cross-Guild because of his God Complex.
      And a lot more character recall and event.
      And the carpenter in Wano and in East Blue are brothers.
      Characters from Thriller Bark are now making sense.
      And a lot more too lazy to bring up.
      What I am trying to say is, Oda is Done planting the seeds, he is now harvesting the fruits of his foreshadowing and all the details the came with it.

    • @D__634
      @D__634 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​​@@samuek607the details post timeskip is way more complcated but at the same time we're getting answers, and more questions for us to theorize.
      Oda gives us more themes especially real life issues.
      What's really missing post timeskip is the strawhats just chilling each other in their ship.

    • @RaidSpinel
      @RaidSpinel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@samuek607proof that people will say anything to feed their god complex

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @RaidSpinel what does this mean? 😭

  • @Admiral-General_Aladeen
    @Admiral-General_Aladeen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Hm i can't really agree with all of your points here. First it makes sense that the stories are on a "bigger scale" now. The strawhats are a Yonkou crew now about to challange the WG.
    And while the "little" side stories have been reduced the worldbuilding has significantly increased. The arce are getting longer and longer. Too long in my opinion because Oda adds a ton of worldbuilding.
    Thats why i also can't really agree that he wants to quit. Woundn't he make the arcs shorter and cut back on things happening? It doesn't really make sense to me that he would like to stop but but then also include things like Otama/the Scabbards/Oden/Yamato.
    Like you showed in the video he just added Kumas backstory. Isnt that also like one of the earlier side stories? So he really wants to quit and then include Kumas and Bonneys backstory? That doesn't really make sense.
    Then you said he didn't include the backstories of several characters but you also don't want to spend to much time away from the straw hats. I mean how important is Zoros family tree or Koby relationship really for the story? I would agree that he included too many side characters but that is probably because like i said in the beginning they are about to change the world so Oda wants to make the world look as "alive" as possible. It's kind of a dilemma. If Kaido has only King Queen and Jack as relevant subordinates the world doesn't really feel alive since he is a Yonkou but if he has 30 named characters you can't really give all of them relevant stories.

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      First, I would like to clarify that I don't believe he has lost his passion or love for the story, he just doesn't want this to take any longer than it absolutely has to because he's too worn down. He wants to make an attempt at resolving everything he's set up.
      That being said, I don't think the arcs have any more worldbuilding than they did before, they just have a ton more characters stretching them out because it'll save more time overall than splitting them across several smaller arcs (think Enies Lobby vs Onigashima, both were brawls, but the sheer number of fights is what protracted the latter).
      The characters you listed were also plot essential, and couldn't really be removed. Otama's fruit ended up being the worst possible matchup for the *Animal Kingdom* Pirates, the scabbards were introduced in 2012 (one chapter after arriving in the New World) and were the entire reason the strawhats set Wano as a target in the first place, and Oden's death was the entire reason for the revenge quest, so it wouldn't make much sense (narratively) to leave out the origin of the grudge the entire arc was based off of.
      I'll give you Yamato though. Maybe something will come of him in the future, but Wano's next bodyguard maybe didn't need so much time.
      As for the high number of side characters, the point I was trying to make was that a lot of them were introduced/built up long before Wano when Oda likely envisioned giving them a character arc he no longer has the time for. Hawkins wasn't an actual crew member, but was tossed in there to tick a box, and Kaido's genuine subordinates were likely originally intended to have their time in the sun like Doflamingo's guys in Dressrosa. Bellamy, Senor Pink, Pica - that was probably what he was going for, but characters like Ulti/Page 1 and Fukurokuju ended up getting relegated to the SBS.
      Only plot-essential backstories are being kept in the story now (like Kuma's, which would tie up a character introduced in 2002 whose motives for helping the crew, joining the government, and leaving the revolutionaries would all be wrapped up, while introducing a new race and shedding light on the God Valley incident), but Oda used to give just about every named character with a story their time to shine, and this may be a matter of preference (I said in the video that I understand Oda's decisions), but that did more to make the world feel alive than including a ton of miscellaneous Extras.
      I'll admit that 'quitting' is strong and suggests he's being forced to keep going, but after the observations I've made (could be wrong), I just think he's cut out a lot of what he enjoys and is only doing what's absolutely necessary so he can finally rest.

  • @joegarbage5908
    @joegarbage5908 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    have to be real this just seems like a long justification for nostalgia. the story is in its final phase, it's obviously going to be completely different in tone and form from when it started decades ago. sure its hard to watch things you used to like change as you get older but the story its telling isnt the same as it used to be. the only thing i could agree with in this video is maybe the paneling, but if it's necessary to tell the story for the sake of Oda's health i think thats fine. this whole video really just reads like sadness at the openendedness of the story winding down as it nears the climax, but that's a natural part of storytelling.

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Am I nostalgic? Definitely. Will I be at risk of self-harm when One Piece ends? 100%. I just still think that outside of tonal changes, the story really still is being sped up (rushed at times) and I wanted to point that out. As I said in the video, I understand because this is rough on Oda, and he needs to do what's best for him. We're on the same page there.

    • @joegarbage5908
      @joegarbage5908 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@samuek607 man im sorry thats a really weird thing to say. a good ending is the best thing a manga can have

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's true. I've just been reading One Piece for so long, and it's gotten me through every difficult part of my life. I honestly can't imagine what I'll do when I don't have it anymore.
      Hope natural causes get me before that day comes

    • @joegarbage5908
      @joegarbage5908 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@samuek607 thats why i was saying this seems like misplaces dread about the series ending. you can always reread one piece. you can be excited for oda's next work or another manga. one piece ending is a good thing for itself and its readers

  • @SyvRetcon
    @SyvRetcon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another banger by Ken-chan lol,,
    But also I agree, I love One Piece but it has it's flaws. When fans act like the series is 100% godly perfection and take criticism as some sort of attack,, it just reflects poorly on the rest of the fanbase. Main reason I try and stay off twitter (now X)

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've seen some of the crazy comments you get. You know better than just about anyone how outrageous the fanbase can be and it's sad😔

  • @kingthekingable
    @kingthekingable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Man I see what you tried to say but I cannot say I could agree. The way this show has evolved is something no one will appreciate. Things Oda has built with the storyline, I can only put Attack on Titan on the same level in terms of how it has made me feel. Although I did not love Punk Hazard's pacing, it gave us Wano being the conclusion of everything, and for most people Wano was their favorite arc after the time skip. Marineford is another example of multiple sub arcs being concluded which is why people loved it.

    • @kingthekingable
      @kingthekingable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Respect the time and work you put in though

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I 100% still think One Piece is the greatest, I just also believe that it isn't what it once was. All of the things Oda has built up are incredible, and this is an epic which will never be surpassed (I agree), I just think Oda is really slamming down on the gas pedal to get the story done so he can rest. That's all I was trying to argue.
      Also, appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts, means a lot!

  • @thewillofd4417
    @thewillofd4417 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The man is an absolute machine and been grinding for literal decades so I absolutely don’t blame him for wanting to get it done but I think the only decline I’ve noticed is lack of backstory or character building for the side characters like a senior pink and I still enjoy every chapter weekly the same I always have and as long as that’s the case I’ll continue reading.

  • @fulcagay1277
    @fulcagay1277 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How can you say you enjoyed the casual episodes like Gaimon's and then say Skypiea arc was not good because it wasn't following the story? You have some fair points but they're also full of contradictions 😅

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was lazy in the editing and just showed some random conversations, but my problem with Skypiea wasn't about the story, it was literally just the pacing.
      The entire survival game and the fights against the priests on Enel's island were dreadfully slow in the time that led up to the final battle. I enjoyed Jaya, thought dials were cool, appreciate the setting and all that, I just thought the pacing of that one specific section was hard to get through: it was episodes of running around and underwhelming enemies

  • @oleksandrbyelyenko435
    @oleksandrbyelyenko435 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am a diehard fan. And I agree that One Piece after timeskip doesn't have the same adventurous atmosphere. But I would argue that the fall is over. I mean from Return to Sabaody to Wano it was a mess. But the newest arc gives hope

  • @JmanAnimates
    @JmanAnimates 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was up to date with one piece during the time when the straw hats were separated. It was quite devastating to be honest but cool when it was revealed that there would be a time skip

  • @cww2490
    @cww2490 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skypea arc was great and is a favorite. Its the arc where the straw hats break into heaven, challenge god, overthrow god and steal his treasure.
    And its the only time Luffy wins the rock paper scissors of Devil Fruits against the main bad guy.

  • @LorenzoWTartari
    @LorenzoWTartari 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't think the problem is characters not dying, I think it's characters "dying" and then showing up 4 chapters later, such as Pell or Kanjuro

  • @tkemroyable
    @tkemroyable 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There are so many ppl more invested mow then before...even tho the story ain't as interesting. But this final saga killing it

  • @gokhan1727
    @gokhan1727 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There is no good reason to want another gaimon

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is EVERY reason to want another Gaimon.

  • @asimplemanwithbigduck3949
    @asimplemanwithbigduck3949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bad take seems like trying too hard for views no need bro your other videos are very good even if they have less

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We'll be back to business as usual soon, but I fear the video I'm currently editing will disappoint you.

  • @victorbatista609
    @victorbatista609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro... if oda stuck to pre timeskip pacing, one piece would be done in 50 years instead of 30

  • @chicken29843
    @chicken29843 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Manga sales are down but what about other metrics? I feel like one piece has become huge in the west with casuals who dont read.

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe I address that closer to the end, when I look at trends and the online popularity graph over the years

    • @pockystick8557
      @pockystick8557 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@samuek607 what about its over all sales globally? One Piece for the first time became the best selling manga in US. It was already is in France and Viz is now shipping on the South East? What about Luffy at the Macy Parade? The collaboration with the LA Rams? Bro. Please do more research

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sales figures accounted for global sales, and the rest of those fall under the popularity I mentioned was at an all time high this year but didn't want to use as a defining metric for reasons I described.

    • @pockystick8557
      @pockystick8557 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@samuek607 then there's no ground for that argument then is there?

  • @pianistmuffin6882
    @pianistmuffin6882 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a word of advice: re read the entire series cause lowkey youre flat out wrong

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've watched One Piece, and read it 3 times. I still feel pretty confident saying it has lost something.

    • @pockystick8557
      @pockystick8557 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@samuek607 is it being story driven than character driven like it did back in Pre Time Skip? We rarely hang out with the strawhats because they are not the main focus of End Piece. Oda literally said that when the final saga begins we will see less and less of the main cast.

  • @boredcryptek5513
    @boredcryptek5513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My dude. I just couldn't disagree more... Oda's writing is paying off in dividends. Like because he setup so much most of the recent chapters answer several things and ask just as many questions. Like all across the board. His art style is still great and he is deliberate in his writing.
    Yes there are some characters that can't get as much screen time but he is putting it towards the right characters that actually have impact.
    If we are looking at why its less popular now than before look at where the metrics are pulled. You're looking at sales numbers in a world where most people are finding it free online in places that don't report back their success... 😊

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I actually agree that all of his setup is finally paying off, and don't think current One Piece is BAD, just worse than it was before (for the reasons in the video).
      Also, I did look at the popularity metrics that reflect... "unofficial" viewership, and explained why I didn't want to use that.

  • @JRMagro
    @JRMagro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The SBS reveals arent as damning as you make them out to be. It's not that he is revealing them in sbs instead of the manga. It's more so he revealed it in sbs because we wouldnt get the information otherwise. Finding out Zoros connections would have been nice, but unless it lead to some sort of revelation or character development, it wasnt really worth revealing and taking time away from the story at hand. I believe Oda had many potential plots he was planning on fitting into wano but realized there just wasnt enough time for all of them. So finding out about zoro and his family that have no real impact on the story at hand, didnt make the cut. Kid is a rival to luffy but his backstory didnt bring any relevant info to the main story (unlike laws backstory in dressrosa.)
    As long as we see kid lose his arm to beckman.. then im good lol.

  • @chicken29843
    @chicken29843 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People don't want to admit but he definitely has slowed down in the second half in terms of quality. Like the fiveish arcs before the time skip are certified classics like all-time anime arcs. Post Time skip is just not as good. A lot of spectacle and i actually think the lore and the plot itself is awesome, but the characters are really just less interesting. The island formula is getting a bit stale. I hope egghead has a subversion of expectations ala sabaody where the crew gets wrecked riding off a big high. Doesnt need to be that but i want that same impact.

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Coming off a power buff in Wano, I don't believe they're going to suffer a huge loss, and we also saw that Blackbeard's ship arrives at Egghead a couple of chapters back, so that probably provides the chaos they need to get away. Wouldn't mind if they lost, but I don't really expect it.
      Also, thanks for watching, and I appreciate you being the person who agrees with me!

  • @gokhan1727
    @gokhan1727 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your uploads are at the most random hours

  • @lrblueslowbro5302
    @lrblueslowbro5302 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nah this is bs.

  • @srensen9948sander
    @srensen9948sander 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man clearly misunderstanding whole cake😂😂😂man acting like katakuri wasn't one of the bedst fight and backstory still there plus sanjis backstory. Plus a lot more you just ignore

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's completely independent of what I said 😭

  • @chicken29843
    @chicken29843 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bruh togashi should just write the rest of Hunter x Hunter his manga is basically just a book anyway

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm so hurt he won't just team up with an illustrator, he's barely drawing anyway😔

  • @Homijreggel
    @Homijreggel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm i don't agree with your statements it's only logical that the side stories are going down cause the main story is coming to culmination.
    and the overal world building has been growing exponentially.
    And i absolutely disagree with your statement that Oda is giving up in his story.
    Sorry but the amount of foreshadowing is insane and every time you rewatch or read onepiece you allways find something that turns out to be an awesome detail we all missed.
    But i personally think your opinion overall is just not objective or you don't get what it is about somehow.
    Also one piece it's popularity has never been higher with the live action and everything else that's up right now.
    And you can't make an ongoing 30 year story if you do not have passion about your story.
    Also why would he not have passion if he is so adimantly fixated on making sure the live action adaptation captures the essence of one piece.
    I just don't see how you got to your conclusion.

  • @inn8204
    @inn8204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whack

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No u

  • @MEklelty
    @MEklelty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can kinda see where your coming from but there can only bee so much build up and set up in a story, we are in the pay off phase of one piece there's no need to keep adding stuff to leave the viewer wondering where the story will go next we are waiting to see what everything has been leading up to already.

  • @srensen9948sander
    @srensen9948sander 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Get glasses

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Way ahead of you

  • @gregorythestallion2984
    @gregorythestallion2984 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, I'm a nee One Piece watcher, and I'm starting Punk Hazard.
    And, honestly, I'm already losing steam to keep watching, and my biggest issue is: the Straw Hats.
    Like, after Shabondi, they just feel flat.
    First, we had the Marinefort arc, which was quite terrible for me. Lots of plot device character being introduced, lots of new faces risking their lives as if I even cared, and then THE second worst death in anime that I have seen.
    And then, after all of that, Return to Shabondi and Fishmen Islan did an excellent job at showing that Marinefort was a useless arc because none of the straw pirates grew. Yeah, they got stronger, but that hardly counts when they were already getting stronger every arc just because.
    Luffy kept ignoring important bits, was still rush, was still irresponsable, and so on. Not only regressing him before Marinefort, regressing him even before Waterseven.
    I loved Jimbei, but the first thing they do to him is kick him out of the story.
    Nami had a chance to have a great character moment, but Sanji kept running that scene and then Luffy finished killing it.
    None of the other Starw Hats did anything interesting aside from "helping".
    And, overall, they are just feeling like a vihacules rather than characters. We sit on them, watch the ride and watch everyone else being more interesting.

  • @yeminthway830
    @yeminthway830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    L video. If you think Oda and one piece’s lacking, give one example of a book or anything that is better with the length of one piece.

    • @marcnawezi1877
      @marcnawezi1877 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is merely any comparison lenght wise so it’s impossible. But DBZ has always been epic to the point that Gohan transforming in SSJ2 is still the most epic anger scene all mangas included.

    • @samuek607
      @samuek607  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I didn't say One Piece was lacking, or even compare it to anything else. I was comparing late One Piece to early One Piece 😭

    • @beshoyyoussef2814
      @beshoyyoussef2814 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Length doesn’t equal quality lol. Deathnote, AoT and full metal alchemist are MASTERFUL stories that didn’t need 1107+ chapters to tell. The only reason the OP fan base is so large now is bc older people thatve read it weekly since pre-timeskip still read it bc of a sense of obligation and seeing how it ends. And newer people come in every year to see it. So the fan base slowly increases bc of that length. But the story itself has a lot of flaws and I can name 5 off the top of my head
      1. Lack of character deaths, which ruins tension
      2. Fake tension (dedicating a few pages to make you think a character is in danger when they CLEARLY won’t be)--did anyone really believe the ship sank in Whole Cake island when he drew that flag in the water LOL
      3. Too many instances of off screening what the fans want to see (major fights or conversations bc of ‘mystery’) literally no reason to hide who shanks was telling the Gorosei about. He could’ve said “I’m here to warn you about Blackbeard/Luffy/Kidd/Foxy” and it would do nothing. Mystery just for the sake of mystery.
      4. Females all look the same artistically except for big mom
      5. Very very long

    • @friendlylion1356
      @friendlylion1356 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly do not care about character death tensions. Yes, the tension is exciting, but I would much rather have characters live long boring lives than die. Even if characters get resurrected in a weird way, I'm still glad that they are alive. This is just my opinion, you do you 😅 see ya