"I have many names." Really sums up Sauron, he's taken so many different forms and identities that he doesn't even know his true name anymore. Galadriel's line in The Hobbit "You are nameless, faceless and formless." Really rings true in this scene.
@@rohilnagar6991 I think that he was speaking partly by reflecting himself. Celebrimbor himself was too obsessed to create something magneficent and it blinded him the danger his kingdom was facing. The same way Sauron became obsessed to posses all the rings and create something that would bind them together. And in his eagerness he transfered a lot of his powers to the one ring. This lead him first to fall to the last alliance and then to Frodo. So in summary rings became his obsessio and this obsession destroyed him. Imagine if Sauron would not have created the one ring. He would have still a lot of power during the third age.Not perhaps Nazguls but he would have more options to plan his conquest. But no, during the third age he could only rely his underlings to do his will.
In Tolkiens lore Elves in particular get a vision of the future at the time of death…so no he may not have seen Frodo himself he absolutely saw that one ring would end up being Sauron’s demise…thats why he got so emotional after he said that and impaled him
This interaction gives Hurin and Morgoth vibes: "This last I say to you, thrall Morgoth," said Hurin, "and it comes not from the lore of the Eldar, but is put into my heart this hour. You are not the Lord of Men, and shall not be, though all Arda and Menel fall in your dominion. Beyond the Circles of the World you shall not pursue those who refuse you." "Beyond the Circles of the World I will not pursue them," said Morgoth. "For beyond the Circles of the World there is Nothing. But within them they shall not escape me, until they enter into Nothing." "You lie," said Hurin. "You shall see and you shall confess that I do not lie," said Morgoth.
Sauron created the rings, including the One, as a swift and efficient way to dominate Middle Earth. It externalized and amplified his power, but also made him completely dependent upon it. Tolkien says even Sauron could not have brought harm upon or undone the One Ring. His undoing was his need for perfection and efficiency.
Sauron doesn't lose because of the ring and he didn't do it for a need of perfection. He needs it for power. He should pretty much be near death this entire age. It's the ring that makes him as powerful as he becomes. The ring that keeps him alive through the 3rd age, and the ring WINS. The ring beats frodo and by extension would beat just about everyone else. 99.99% of that journey is inspired and motived by people wanting to destroy evil. If Sauron just accepted his fate at the end of 1st age he might've lived. So the problem is his goals from the beginning, this tech steal from Celebrimbor is an insane level up that can't be criticized too heavily considering his level of influence after that. Without it he fumbles around for a few centuries, weak as hell.
@@LordSpleach no, the elven rings were made at the end of season 1. with a similar illogicality, because Galadriel knew that the rings were Sauron's device
@NaughtySnuggles cuz if a show shows even a sniff of wokeness the hounds like critical drinker ans mauler will shred it to pieces lol, can't have shit nowadays
@@NaughtySnuggles The writers had to change to timeline for a more watchable format. They also have characters go through arcs so that they grow into the characters we know them to be. This pissed off a lot of Tolkien fans
@@Loadedice1 That's not what's bad about the show though. The one aspect that I see brought up the most by haters is how Galadriel was made stupid, selfish and cruel and that she had a romantic story with Sauron. Has nothing to do with wokeness. Also the existence of harfoots as nothing more than a marketing strategy. And if we're talking about inaccuracies to the lore, there's a very long list of them that has nothing to do with a back elf existing,
Someone posted a while back this is where Mairon truly died. I thought about that for some time and truly I think that what they writers were going for through season 1 and 2? Showing how a villain progressively gets more evil over time? He said when Morgoth lost he began to feel the light of the one again. Probably a lie knowing him but lets say it was part true that Eru gave him a chance to come clean. Interesting thought.
I would say this is the one time we see Mairon, in a moment of clarity, realizing what he's done to himself, but I can't say that. This is a corrupted Maiar grasping at a shadow. An uncertainty of a memory. And seeing that there is nothing, where there should have been something. "I have many names" is the last shred of kindness he can give himself. And what's equally expected is the orc's blank stare. Evil doesn't have a name. It's not one person. In this world it's a condition, and it never lets its victims breathe.
Now imagine in game of thrones when euron greyjoy speared that sand sister that they continued to have a conversation while she was suspended in the air lol
Hear me shadow of Morgoth, hear now the dying words of Celebrimbor, the rings of power shall be your prison and in the end I forsee that one alone shall be your utter destruction 💯💯💯💯
These two had the only good storylines in s2. Everything else felt like pointless fluff. Dunno if it was because of adaptation rights or what, but the Eregion plot should've been the focus from the start
I may be a bit lost in translation, does that mean that "lord of the rings" has to be understood as sarcasm ? As in he's not lord of anybody, just of "mere" rings ?
Imo, it means that Sauron, the new Dark Lord, is but a thrall and a pawn of the rings themselves. Which, in a sense, is true. Sauron's survival depended on the One Ring from the day he created it.
Not exactly... the title "Lord of the Rings" isn't intended as sarcasm.... but rather as a literal and symbolic reference to Saurons dominion and his method of control. Sauron crafted the One Ring....which is imbued with much of his own power to rule over the other Rings of Power. This gave him indirect control over the leaders of Elves, Dwarves, and Men who possessed these rings....thus extending his influence over much of Middle Earth. The title emphasizes both the literal aspect of his mastery over these powerful artifacts and the broader theme of domination and the corruption of power. It's a stark reminder of how Saurons influence is woven into the very fabric of the storys world.... affecting not just the ring bearers but the fate of all living in Middle Earth. So... while it might seem like he's just the lord of some rings...those rings represent a much larger scale of power and control.
@@RegentofSparta If Sauron had that sort of self-awareness the idea that someone would destroy the One ring would've crossed his mind. The writer's are playing up the soft boy act, so people who like to ship him and Galadriel feel vindicated. The truth is Sauron is completely absorbed with the thought of having power. They should've shown a look of smugness and satisfaction.
He used Celebrimbor's body as a war banner. So no, I don't think he gave a shit at this point. I think if he had feelings like that, he would've burned the body and kept a small trophy.
Really enjoyed this series tbh and I have no time for the whining fanboy haters. I grew up with the books 40 years ago, way before the films and this is a great prequel to the story.
"I have many names." Really sums up Sauron, he's taken so many different forms and identities that he doesn't even know his true name anymore. Galadriel's line in The Hobbit "You are nameless, faceless and formless." Really rings true in this scene.
Celebrimbor was right. Because the one ring was all that was needed to destroy Sauron.
but how can he forsee the frodo will destroy Sauron
@@rohilnagar6991 I think that he was speaking partly by reflecting himself. Celebrimbor himself was too obsessed to create something magneficent and it blinded him the danger his kingdom was facing. The same way Sauron became obsessed to posses all the rings and create something that would bind them together. And in his eagerness he transfered a lot of his powers to the one ring. This lead him first to fall to the last alliance and then to Frodo. So in summary rings became his obsessio and this obsession destroyed him.
Imagine if Sauron would not have created the one ring. He would have still a lot of power during the third age.Not perhaps Nazguls but he would have more options to plan his conquest. But no, during the third age he could only rely his underlings to do his will.
In Tolkiens lore Elves in particular get a vision of the future at the time of death…so no he may not have seen Frodo himself he absolutely saw that one ring would end up being Sauron’s demise…thats why he got so emotional after he said that and impaled him
I think Celebrimbors words hurt Sauron more than Sauron ever hurt him.
the dark fool created his own doom!
This interaction gives Hurin and Morgoth vibes:
"This last I say to you, thrall Morgoth," said Hurin, "and it comes not from the lore of the Eldar, but is put into my heart this hour. You are not the Lord of Men, and shall not be, though all Arda and Menel fall in your dominion. Beyond the Circles of the World you shall not pursue those who refuse you."
"Beyond the Circles of the World I will not pursue them," said Morgoth. "For beyond the Circles of the World there is Nothing. But within them they shall not escape me, until they enter into Nothing."
"You lie," said Hurin.
"You shall see and you shall confess that I do not lie," said Morgoth.
"Are you Sauron?"
"I have many names."
"...is Sauron one of them, or?"
No seriously. 😂
SHADOW OF MORGOTH !!!!!
He said the thing!
Sauron created the rings, including the One, as a swift and efficient way to dominate Middle Earth. It externalized and amplified his power, but also made him completely dependent upon it. Tolkien says even Sauron could not have brought harm upon or undone the One Ring. His undoing was his need for perfection and efficiency.
Sauron doesn't lose because of the ring and he didn't do it for a need of perfection. He needs it for power. He should pretty much be near death this entire age. It's the ring that makes him as powerful as he becomes. The ring that keeps him alive through the 3rd age, and the ring WINS. The ring beats frodo and by extension would beat just about everyone else. 99.99% of that journey is inspired and motived by people wanting to destroy evil. If Sauron just accepted his fate at the end of 1st age he might've lived. So the problem is his goals from the beginning, this tech steal from Celebrimbor is an insane level up that can't be criticized too heavily considering his level of influence after that. Without it he fumbles around for a few centuries, weak as hell.
Calebrimbor : Sauron....Lord of the rings!
*roll credits
It truly was a shawshank redemption
"welp, time to forge One Ring that my entire existance will hinge on"
Wait, did he kill Celebrimbor before he made the 3 Elven Rings?
@@LordSpleach no, the elven rings were made at the end of season 1. with a similar illogicality, because Galadriel knew that the rings were Sauron's device
@@blueshit199 and apparently before the other rings got made.
The way he lifts and holds him up is so scary holy shit
Say what about the show but actor play Sauron did great job
I love the show not sure why people dislike it
@NaughtySnuggles cuz if a show shows even a sniff of wokeness the hounds like critical drinker ans mauler will shred it to pieces lol, can't have shit nowadays
@@NaughtySnuggles The writers had to change to timeline for a more watchable format. They also have characters go through arcs so that they grow into the characters we know them to be.
This pissed off a lot of Tolkien fans
It’s a pretty terrible show that isn’t true to the lore of Tolkien. Humanising orcs and all lmao
@@Loadedice1 That's not what's bad about the show though. The one aspect that I see brought up the most by haters is how Galadriel was made stupid, selfish and cruel and that she had a romantic story with Sauron. Has nothing to do with wokeness. Also the existence of harfoots as nothing more than a marketing strategy. And if we're talking about inaccuracies to the lore, there's a very long list of them that has nothing to do with a back elf existing,
The show is beginning to redeem itself.
Fuck no it isn’t
0:20 Speak "Friend" and enter.
Mellon!
Someone posted a while back this is where Mairon truly died. I thought about that for some time and truly I think that what they writers were going for through season 1 and 2? Showing how a villain progressively gets more evil over time? He said when Morgoth lost he began to feel the light of the one again. Probably a lie knowing him but lets say it was part true that Eru gave him a chance to come clean. Interesting thought.
"I helped shape the destiny of Middle Earth. I crafted the Rings of Power"
"Only you could have achieved such art... Celebrimbor!"
Celebrimbor: If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Sauron: Bet?
I would say this is the one time we see Mairon, in a moment of clarity, realizing what he's done to himself, but I can't say that. This is a corrupted Maiar grasping at a shadow. An uncertainty of a memory. And seeing that there is nothing, where there should have been something. "I have many names" is the last shred of kindness he can give himself. And what's equally expected is the orc's blank stare. Evil doesn't have a name. It's not one person. In this world it's a condition, and it never lets its victims breathe.
Now imagine in game of thrones when euron greyjoy speared that sand sister that they continued to have a conversation while she was suspended in the air lol
one of the shows of all time
Hear me shadow of Morgoth, hear now the dying words of Celebrimbor, the rings of power shall be your prison and in the end I forsee that one alone shall be your utter destruction 💯💯💯💯
Sauron is literally the only good thing about this show.
Talion enters the chat
"You are banished from death Ranger, a curse binds us within the walls of Arda"
No Glug! Don't tell him your name!
Ooooohh so that's why it's called that
No one who says “You’re wrong” is a true evil dark lord. Man….why Amazon.
These two had the only good storylines in s2. Everything else felt like pointless fluff. Dunno if it was because of adaptation rights or what, but the Eregion plot should've been the focus from the start
Why is Sauron mean to that poor hobbit?
Lord of the Rings.
No lord of the cocks
I may be a bit lost in translation, does that mean that "lord of the rings" has to be understood as sarcasm ? As in he's not lord of anybody, just of "mere" rings ?
Imo, it means that Sauron, the new Dark Lord, is but a thrall and a pawn of the rings themselves. Which, in a sense, is true. Sauron's survival depended on the One Ring from the day he created it.
Not exactly... the title "Lord of the Rings" isn't intended as sarcasm.... but rather as a literal and symbolic reference to Saurons dominion and his method of control. Sauron crafted the One Ring....which is imbued with much of his own power to rule over the other Rings of Power. This gave him indirect control over the leaders of Elves, Dwarves, and Men who possessed these rings....thus extending his influence over much of Middle Earth.
The title emphasizes both the literal aspect of his mastery over these powerful artifacts and the broader theme of domination and the corruption of power. It's a stark reminder of how Saurons influence is woven into the very fabric of the storys world.... affecting not just the ring bearers but the fate of all living in Middle Earth. So... while it might seem like he's just the lord of some rings...those rings represent a much larger scale of power and control.
Perhaps in the show's version of the story, though not in the original Tolkien story.
I think he should have repeated I foresee … I foresee
Why is Sauron crying?
I asked myself that same question.
Because he is damned and he now realizes on some level at least that
@@RegentofSparta If Sauron had that sort of self-awareness the idea that someone would destroy the One ring would've crossed his mind. The writer's are playing up the soft boy act, so people who like to ship him and Galadriel feel vindicated. The truth is Sauron is completely absorbed with the thought of having power. They should've shown a look of smugness and satisfaction.
@@GrandBlackPiano-v4vHe had that self-awareness at this point. Later on, it's buried underneath his ego and megalomania.
He used Celebrimbor's body as a war banner. So no, I don't think he gave a shit at this point. I think if he had feelings like that, he would've burned the body and kept a small trophy.
Craft? 😂😂😂Your only craft is treachery.
Really enjoyed this series tbh and I have no time for the whining fanboy haters. I grew up with the books 40 years ago, way before the films and this is a great prequel to the story.
No
"I didn't realize it was the same guy because he had a wig!"
Clearly you haven't watched the season 🤣
Baby Sauron, cry cry
Yeesh. They spent how much on this show? The dialogue is like B-grade fan fiction.
You’re b grade human
Poor Brimbo Forgins from Eregionshire 😥
rip the greatest Burglahobbit there ever was
@@blueshit199 The king of dwarves Saurin is being a little bit mean to his friend brimbo? Maybe that ring is giving him gold sickness.
I have never used the pen name: "me gust a football."
I am not a Cause Airy Anne.
somehow the way he killed celly in the games was more brutal and impactful even tho there was almost no dialog
Too bad this show sucks…
Now he just needed to say The Hobbit and all three series would be name dropped. What utter schlock.
What is this freak show? Why are there black elves and why the white ones look like Rohan villagers.
Are you talking about the moriquendi?
I bet you think Aragorn was white in the books too XD
that's Celebrimbor of Calenardhon
Chinese Elf too, the writers and showrunners are st3pid
Tolkien described Aragorn as ‘having a shaggy head of dark hair flecked with grey, and in a pale stern face a pair of keen grey eyes’
This show makes me sick.
🤮