We Get Stopped In The Nissan Kicks e-POWER! | Number Coding Test and a Road Trip
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2024
- The Nissan Kicks e-POWER is exempt from the number coding scheme, according to the EVIDA law until 2030. We put the crossover to the test on the streets of Metro Manila, and even through the Central Business District of Makati. No window hours, coded for the day, and enforcers everywhere. Will we get stopped? We did, and then we went to Anvaya. Find out how Caco and Jack's little adventure panned out on this AutoDeal Special with the Nissan Kicks e-POWER.
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0:00 - Nissan Kicks e-POWER
0:17 - We Get Stopped In The Nissan Kicks e-POWER
0:21 - Number Coding Test in Makati
4:35 - Caco takes Jack to Anvaya
5:39 - Fuelling Up the Nissan Kicks e-POWER
6:41 - NVH Impressions
7:41 - Nissan e-Pedal
10:24 - Fuel Efficiency
11:58 - Running on Full EV
13:26 - Arriving at Anvaya
15:08 - Trip Summary
16:17 - Conclusion
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I think its about time that we put a mic on Jack. Love the banter always!
Up for this!
Up for this. And caco well be cameraman naman😁
OG TopGear feels..
"Isn't it a relaxing sign" Wise words form a wise man
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In short, it is categorized globally as a "Series Hybrid Vehicle", a type of hybrid that uses an internal combustion engine as a "range extender". The car is fully-electric powered, it just has a gasoline generator sustaining the batteries, as the name implies. It is also known in other countries as a "extended-range electric vehicle" or EREV. So yes, the Kicks e-POWER is an EV.
OMG THAT WAS YOU GUYS? I was a few cars behind you guys last Wednesday (August 9) going up SLEX from EDSA Magallanes late afternoon/early evening. I thought "Oh boy that guy is breaking coding". Imagine my surprise when they let you go. It all made sense when the MMDA officer suddenly shouted to his fellow enforcers "HYBRID!". You guys have no idea how much that changed my mind about getting a Hybrid/EV
Try Manila or Pasay. Probably the best place to test the coding there cause of the kinds of Enforcers there.
Native habitat of the endemic reptile Crocodylus kotongensis
It's like saying to test it in croc infested waters.
@@lieutenantkettch😂
I was gonna say the same!
Manila enforcers will try to confiscate your license even they are not permitted to. And will say they have no notice about it.
The test is flawed because if the officers pulled you over in the first place, they were unable to identify it as an HEV. If they did and all they needed was for you to vocally tell them it is an EV without them checking, then the system still doesn't work cause someone can just get a hybrid badge to put them without them checking the papers, for example the Corolla/Yaris Cross or the Innova Zenix that has both hybrid and non-hybrid variants, or the mild hybrid cars like the Ertiga, Okavango, and CX-60 which shouldnt be excluded. Also, the officers could probably just not care even if they see it and don't know it's an HEV.
In the future, EV/Hybrids will have their own type of plate.
But yeah, at the moment, unless the traffic enforcer was listening to their briefings (if they have any), what you have said has a likelihood of happening.
Well said
@@jeddpires yeah this definitely is the way, but it needs to be done by 2025, otherwise the differentiation won't be effective by 2030 unless they start giving more different rules between EV, PHEV/EV, and ICE
to be fair, not even the general populace is aware on what cars are EVs, HEVs, PHEVs, or regular ICE engines.
You either have to be an EV simp or a car guy updated with EV news to actually be aware which is which.
So I can't exactly blame them as well if not many of them don't know what is and what's not.
It also doesn't help that many car brands have hybrid and EV version of their regular cars.
A quick fix with this is to let LTO make specific plates for EVs and the like.
Or force manufacturers to make a specific design to ensure people will know it's an EV like say putting an EV badge on the front using a specific color on the front grille area (or the area where one should be found on an ICE engine) to denote that it's an EV.
Or hell, even a special sticker from LTO on the windshield should be enough to denote that it's an EV.
@@dickmelsonlupot7697 yeah the plate number is really the easiest option to identify without asking for an OR/CR. Hybrid badges are cheap to buy and people can easily stick them on non-hybrid variants of hybrid vehicles. The other expectation is at the very least a training or circular to traffic enforcers regarding the hybrid vehicles available, but as they start to increase in numbers it's a less feasible solution
Been loving our Kicks VL!!! So much power to drive ❤️❤️❤️
Tried this in our Nissan Kicks a couple of months ago. Was driving with my farher… was stopped 8x in Makati but was let go. Each time, Makati Police: Ay, senior citizen. Ok na po. (Before I was able to say “EV”) hahaha
nakakalibang talaga kayo pauorin, its like watching buddy en sol review cars. CHEERS!
I love that you added subtext ❤
The thinking that nissan put into the engineering and methods for this is truly remarkable
hybrid cars was first use at the end of 90's therefore nothing is new here. you still need to replace the costly battery after 4-5 years
@@carlosmolina3850and how much is that? im curious 😅
@@carlosmolina3850both nissan and toyota batteries take 10 years before there will be any noticeable battery degradation
Nice to finally see Jack!
Poor Jack... this is like the Baguio episode of Corolla Cross hahahaha
SIR CACO, YOU'RE THE BEST MEN,AUTODEAL IS THE BEST CAR REVIEWS ALL AROUND,AUTODEAL IS THE BEST CHANNEL WHEN IT COMES TO CAR REVIEWS,GOOD JOB SIR CACO!
Approve of these types of vehicles. 👍
Nissan Kicks basically runs on the same principle as the Audi RS Q e-tron for Dakar; and that baby was quite the beast going toe-to-toe against Toyota's Hilux Dakar.
thanks you for a great "experience" video.
Nice ganda naman ng kicks nayan sir caco.....❤❤❤
Cant wait of your comparo of this and the yaris cross hybrid!
I like the effort of putting subtitle.
I knew there was a catch when Caco said he was taking Jack to Anvaya.
I always wondered myself how it would be like to drive an EV/HEV during coding day. Thanks for this test!
this is not an EV/PHEV car so not exempt from coding...
Ev po charged by built in generator lng
@@lorgienillgodinez9907 not considered an EV (which has no engine at all but purely electric motor) or PHEV - Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicle (there is an engine and electric motor which you can chrge from external source) ...while a Hybrid engine...has a smaller battery for the electric motor but cannot be charge from external source...anyway i stand corrected it is exempt from coding...
what a cool segment...
I want to see more Jack interaction please.
too surprising, for someone speaking fluently in english then mabibigla ka na lang ang galing mag tagalog din pala.ahaha. all praises to you sir
I thought you are going to test the FC by refuel tank again.
Did I miss the part where you tackled the consumption from when you got full tank?
Caco, this is a hybrid vehicle, series hybrid to be exact. Parallel hybrid naman yung sa Toyota.
Sir, is that vechile already has EMP(electromagnetic pulse) Protection?
Can you do Comparo about 2023 Nissan Kicks E-Power vs. 2023 Toyota Cross Yaris Hybrid? Thank you! :)
this vehicle in the philippines makes more sense... good work caco.
Hello sir, sana po magkaron ang comparison ang zenix at kicks? Which is better. Thank you po
can the backseat be reclined even just a bit?
His tagalog works, it works 👌🤘
This video most likely was recorded before the flooding issue in NLEX San Simon and the closure of the section of SCTEX going to Subic Bay.
"Coding po"..."EV po" hahahahahah i felt that.
Our First car of my fiancee very smooth and fuel efficient. Sobrang tahimik ng makina ,recommended ko to para sa mga bibili ng unang sasakyan. Downside para sakin mahina yung headlight
Which hybrid should i buy first? Kicks or corolla cross?
What is the price of replacement batteries? And how many years before they need to be replaced?
how did i just now notice that caco upgraded from his note8
I wish we had the e-power version in the U.S. I like my regular Kicks, but I'd like it more with e-power.
new kicks unit are issued temporary plate numbers in green lettering. supposedly to make them more identifiable as hybrid or ev. but i have seen nissan kicks with temporary numbers in black letterings. so i dont know anymore
this is pretty impressive... I wonder how much would be the average maintenance cost for this car
A good implementation would be, if LTO issues plates with a extra character for EVs. Like, start with “E” or something, like what they have in Taiwan. We cant expect every enforcer to know every car model and its specs... Saves time from getting flagged down and explaining.
EVs and Hybrids will supposedly have green plates
@@jeddpires
That would sound dumbb and confusing simply because the old normal plates used green.
the addition of an "E" or "EV" somewhere in your plate number or using a different color like say blue
Meron nang nilabas na memo yung LTO regarding sa bagong plate numbers ng EVs at hybrids. It looks like yung last letter sa plate number would be V, W, X, Y, Z tapos yung middle letter sa EV is from A to M at sa hybrid from N to Z.
1:30 actually @SoJooCars tried this with the Ertiga a few months back.
Any e-powered 7 seaters Nissan Kicks to come.
The Nissan Kicks is fine. But it's kinda small. Will they bring in the bigger Nissan ePower X-Trail? The reviews of the X-Trail you see in TH-cam has even more features, like adaptive cruise control.
Then pay 3M pesos dude. You have that money?
The Plates should be unique in any way to id EV HYBRID HEV or any electric or semi electric car
Suggestion : put a different font color (blue) for the EVs. Sayang oras kaka abala din sa mga drivers and traffic officers.
Hope there's a common sign or sticker that indicates it's a hybrid or electric vehicle. I heard there's going to be a specific license plate color but I haven't seen one. For now, how do the hundreds of enforcers know which ones are EV and not---especially those models with both hybrid and internal combustion engines?
Pasig-Potrero Bridge now passable?
Beautiful sulit car!
"Welcome to Anvaya Jack!" 🤣🤣🤣
Is it true theres no spare tire? How long can you go on full EV?
Is it possible to buy & fit-in a spare tire sa boot, under the flat panel?
Wasn't Sojoocars the first one to try this on purpose? I believe it was the Suzuki Ertiga Hybrid that he tried this with
My exact thoughts
Apparently they don't watch each other's videos 😅
Nissan kicks had issues on its ac compressor. Mine was brojen down and was replaced for only 4000km odometer.
I wonder when we will get this version of the Kicks in North America?
Hope nissan makes a 7 seater variant e kick and a large battery
lets go to anvaya some time, you can bring a car you are reviewing if you would like to test out its fuel economy.
Thank you for the new video of Kicks. I was actually wondering if I shouldn't worry about number coding. By the way, should I tell the traffic enforcer that it's an "EV"❓
The previous comparison video with the Corolla Cross was a test under Christmas traffic, but this fuel consumption test was better than the previous one. 👍It's been a whole year since launch, but is there any update for the 2024 model?❓
this is not an EV/PHEV car so not exempt from coding...
@@rauldelossantos7700 EV, PHEV and HEV are exempted from coding. What is not exempted are the MHEVs or mild hybrid vehicles because they are not technically hybrids since their electric motor alone cannot be used to run the vehicle.
@@valalpasan4155 yes i stand corrected...thank you...
Yeah, every Wednesday too! You've got to know the words to say - Sir, electric po...
Sojoo made that first and tried it in a Suzuki Ertiga Hybrid.
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Are there traffic cameras that catch coding violators ( in non- contact apprehension zones ). ??
Max speed for full EV po?
Try 2024 Yaris Cross Hyrbrd Too.
In the first place, when will those in charge get that coding doesn’t really work in reducing traffic
Best area to try this is going to osmenia flyover.
Are there any indicators in the car that enforcers could based on if a car is EV (like an additional sticker)? Just curious, if they would just take the driver's word for it or would they know just by looking at it? Like, what if for other cars which has both non-hybrid/ev and hybrid/ev variant. Don't they have to ask for docs?
i would think they were trained to Identify the make and model as well as look for indicators like an EV badge/emblem somewhere around the car. I could be wrong but I thought that EV vehicles are/will be provided special plates for easier identification and would make it harder to fake like the EV badges/emblems.
Also, this is the Philippines, enforcers sometimes choose who to flag down. And sometimes just taking the driver's word is less of a hassle than asking for additional documents. Everyone has somewhere to be and work to do. 😅
On a side note, SoJooCars did this test with the Ertiga and enforcers also just took his word for it, even though he has the docs prepared.
@@pepitolopez4233 for me had to show the sales invoice since the new lexus es300h doesnt display any hybrid indicators anymore
this is not an EV/PHEV car so not exempt from coding...
@@rauldelossantos7700 The EVIDA Law covers hybrids, my friend. They just need to get their hybrid vehicle certified in LTO.
@@rauldelossantos7700 but it's a hybrid, so it is still within the scope. Full EV/PHEV and Hybrid (regardless if the gas engine makes the car move, the electric motor, or both) are exempted.
Maybe try to drive at City Of Manila.
Unfortunately it is not listed on the recent confirmed ev list from DOE. Only the Nissan leaf got included on the list.
good one!
Yes it is under HEV together with the Corolla Cross
Makati is probably where most electrified vehicles drive on a regular day. 😂
Are Hybrids exempted too?
The color coding applies to the subtitles :)
Hey u funny guys. I would say it's an EV with an Range Extender. Love it
I think this is not the first time, sojoocars already did this using the ertiga hybrid.
I think the ertiga and all the other mild hybrid cars will soon not be exempted from coding per the recent DOE memo since they are basically kind of fake hybrids.
Sana ilagay ito sa Terra
'Jack' I fully endorse immediate industrial action (strike) untill work conditions improve. We need management accountability. 😎
EV are ok but the sound of a crossplane R1 1:51 that jack can't resist...
Some enforcers are probably gonna rely on the No Contact Apprehension systems, in which case, it will also test tje system if they've encoded the coding exemption for EVs already, or they will make Hybrid/EV owners go through a lot of inconvenience to contest the apprehension.
The latest list I saw isn't even updated. They don't even have Tesla, unfortunately. Hopefully, they get to update the list soon.
Jack looks sleepy while holding the phone.. hehehe.. it's so funny because when there's something he wants to interject to make fun of Caco, he suddenly awakens, like a Kraken! hehehe
Curious why Kicks did not use their 1.0 engine for charging?
1.0 is definitely more fuel efficient than 1.2 engine.
The smaller the engine the higher the revs to produce more charging power.
@@milopichu and what is the RPM range to charge the battery?
@@suroysuroypinas any naman BUT for example accelerating hard ka, the battery will deplete easily also. So need mag rev higher ng engine to compensate for the decreased batter depletion. Assuming na naturally aspirated ang setup, di hamak na mas maraming power napoproduce ng larger engine per cycle which requires less RPM. Ultimately naman all of its power goes through the battery.
I have just 1 thought, I don't know if it's right, but, why don't they have a small generator connected
to the electric motor of the car, that feeds the battery as well at the same time, so while you're
driving and using the electric car, the generator connected to it is charging its battery again without
having an ICE.?
Strange or rather nice law, because in Jakarta which enforce the same vehicle number plate restriction like Manila, kicks not consider full ev, hence can not go through restricted area, unlike pure ev like ioniq or even small ev like air ev. However maybe Manila can use ev identification like Jakarta which use blue line vehicle plate number for pure ev.
In Manila as long as it’s a full hybrid, a PHEV, or a BEV, it is exempted.
In Manila we have a green line plate for Hybrid. It's relatively new format so..
How much it costs in US$ there in PH please?
I hope Nissan add this technology to the New Patrol and the next generation Terra.
Drove the honda crv on coding day in makati they didn’t stopped either
Kinda telling that ur having this video bout Nissan Kicks days right after the Yaris Cross release hmmm 🤔 😏😝
What is the mileage for engine oil change?
What happens if they fully implement the no-contact apprehension policy?
diba pag nagparehistro ka dun makikita yun? so pag nagparenew ka eh pakita mo na EV yan sampal mo sa kanila na mali sila haha!
QC area from Manila going to UPD - huli ng huli ng Nissan Kicks EV .. experienced twice na. ---Enforcer said : Pinpahuli na daw ngayon 😮
After showing the documents they let us go.
Knowing the track record of the LTO with plates, goodluck getting those EV plates til the Evida Law expires. Owning Hybrids/EVs and getting to your destination on-time will be a headache getting pulled-over every corner.
Not hating EVs or Hybrids, I just don't trust our government to deliver on their end on-time.
How about diesel hybrid? When? 😁
I wonder how the Nissan Kicks would fair against flood in Metro Manila🤔🤔🤔🤔
Innovation in utility vehicles is part of a continuing progress in the world we lives in. But i disagree having this marketing strategy just because it is not addressing the traffic system issues currently in the Philippines but instead this approach is just adding to the problems in the roadway congestions. Why? having exempted in the Coding System apparently implemented in various urbanized cities means is just a temporary relief to vehicle owners, but in general it is not adding value to all other means of transport . In the long run E-vehilcles will be regulated too. Just sharing an opinion.👍
How are EV cars performing through shallow flooded streets?
E-Power!
last time nasa makati ako three enforcers saw my car they just ignored me, mine even is not an ev... 🤷🏻♂
this is not an EV or PHEV...this is just a hybrid engine and still considered as an ICE system...also hybrids has better mileage in city driving than hiway...
agreed. we should not look into the drivetrain but the emissions or gas consumption! Nissan Kicks does not deserve to be exempted from the coding scheme.
Though I am a fan, I wish your video showed the page down/up from what you showed for the FC Average. It would have shown the following. FC Average, total distance traveled, total running time, average speed. Friend has a Kicks and it can't get anywhere near 25km/l on the highway.
Also, for whatever reason, Nissan PH model of Kicks does not have the "feature" to show the battery level (as if on a cellphone) on the lower left hand side of the dash board. It is actually a feature available in Thailand Models and the screen should be there in the Kicks we get here in the PH, just that the "software" does not include it. It didn't make sense not to have it as you would always see the battery charge level, and whether or not it is charging just being a small icon on the lower left side of the dashboard, regardless of what page of the MID dashboard you are on. You can look for it in the manual and they list it as "if equipped".
😂 I don't know how your friend drives but 25km/L is actually pretty average for a kicks on a highway. Most ppl that have kicks (we have a group page that frequently shares our FC with routes&load included) can get it to 25-35 easily.
@@josephcadiao5751 like i said, the data on that page of the Kicks dashboard MID would have been clear info as those numbers on those four (fc average, total distance travelled, average speed, total running time) all tally if you try to check using 2 of the logged figures to manually compute Also just because you are running the Kicks at 90 or 100kph or any other vehicle, does not automatically mean the logged “average speed” would show 90 or 100kph, because it includes slower speeds before you reach toll booths and any slow down on the highway. That’s why the data (or screen capture of that page) would clear up this question.
You could get 25km/l to 35km/l on the Kicks MID with a specific snap shot in time of the Kicks along the Highway, heck even the city. They even had their Fc average in their makati crawl at around 13.5km/l showing (said 14km/l in the video at around 6:00 mark) and im not arguing against that. It will happen in the more realistic scenarios. And usually that’s for typical city traffic average speeds of around 12kmph to 13kmph, with lots of idling time.
Friend is able to achieve digital MID FC average of around 16 to 17km/l (manual computation is closer to 15 to 16km/l about a 5% variance), with logged average speed of about 14 to 15 kmph city driving.
Highway trying to keep a maintained 90kmph to 100kmph speed with some mixed settings start and finish (as well as any slowdowns) would net an average speed (logged) of about below 60kmph but still not getting actual near 25km/l.
Again, that is his experience and he shares with me. Great if you get 25 to 35km/l easily. But wouldn’t you agree that page on the MID dashboard would have provided clearer information on how the 25km/l average was logged/recorded?
@@mjss1984 Not against it but I'd rather have blind spot monitoring like in Thailand than that feature. And yeah, +5/-5 variance in digi FC vs Full Tank method is pretty accurate.
@@josephcadiao5751 true. Especially for the TOTL Kicks, I do believe having the BMS with FCW completes the package in terms of safety monitoring. AEB is a nice to have when you really need it.
That part of the screen that I would just want Nissan PH to enable via software is an oddity because Nissan has said that part of the screen (lower left hand side) is there. The computer and MID has the software already to monitor battery level, whether charging, discharging and regening in the first page of the MID dashboard anyway. Why isn't that easy to view small icon(s) on the lower hand side available though if the screen is there? It seems odd to "exclude" the feature via software if the hardware is already there. That way you never really need to go to the page 1 of the MID Dashboard if you are monitoring your battery charge level as you are nearing your destination to shut off the vehicle.
I don't clock enough kilometers in a year to enjoy the benefits of the hybrid TBH, that's why I didn't. Kicks is nice, but I think the main upgrade they would need to consider for future is a better suspension that allows for "more travel/cushioning" but I do understand there is limited space between the tires and the wheel arch as it is already. For the price, especially for the base and mid trim Kicks, there really is not much to find to be "wanting".