I think it’s interesting Kempy mentioning that the army camp stuff doesn’t work on this generation. I think that’s incorrect. I think it works perfectly. It toughens and bonds the right players and weeds out the wrong players. You put that Brisbane camp through an army camp pre-season and you’ll know exactly who you can build around. Penrith did it, worked okay for them.
I didn’t say the army stuff doesn’t work. I said I felt he was too old school to relate to the next generation. We used to do 6 day army camps now they are no longer than 2 nights. Things have changed. And I think all of the coaches from the early 2000s have changed with those times. Bellamy is no where near as hardcore as he was 20 yrs ago. Bennett isn’t either. Nor is Madge. Army camps still work just not ones as hectic as ones they used to do.
I used to be in the army, and got to participate in a broncos preseason camp (in Canungra), for one morning when prince and Wallace were tussling for the 7 jumper, and there was nothing they did at that camp they couldn’t have done back at red hill 🤷♂️ They weren’t doing it too tough to say the least, except for the fact they weren’t allowed beers at dinner time 😂
I couldn’t disagree with the sacking more strongly. I’m a cows fan, and after the cows finished top 4 we had a shocking year and finished 9th or 10th(?). Plenty of chat about Payten’s job. Then, the boys got over the hangover, and possibly themselves, and got back into their work. Finished top 5 the next year (this year). Broncos could very well have done what the cows did, but the broncos board did what they’ve done for a long time now and showed no patience and expected the same success they used to enjoy. I hope I’m wrong, I really do, but unless they have another coach lined up ready to go, this could go badly.
14th, 9th, runners up, 12th! Missing the 8, 3 years out of 4 is not good enough! We were getting thrashed towards the back end of the season and Kevvie completely lost the dressing room. If this was any other coach not linked to the Broncos with these results no one would blink an eye lid when they got the sack!
it's time for the old boys at the bronx to ZIP it. They are by far the most critical and loud out of all ex player groups. If they truly love the club they would have the clubs priorities always as the most important thing. I honestly believe they endorsed Kevie Walters so bad so they could all infiltrate and relive the glory days. It's insane now too think we won a wooden spoon and appointed a rookie coach to lead us out of that. If it wasn't for the strong roster arguments could be made we'd of been lucky to make it out of the bottom 4 with Walters at the helm.
The nrl has to be very careful of how they handle the KP situation if they’re gonna punish him. You don’t want to set a precedent that you then can’t take back if it ends up hurting the international game
I love Madge, but I think this hindsight of “he was actually doing a decent job at the Tigers” is bit of a stretch. The biggest issues that Madge had at the Tigers was that he was far too relentless and overtime his ability to get the best out of his players became untenable. He also had a horror run of recruiting players, specifically within player circles, players warned other players against being a player under his coaching. Tactically he didn’t really have an identity of what he wanted the team to do, season Madge was sacked he started off 0-7 and the big thing was “what is this team’s identity?” We can apply what we’ve seen since and talk about how he’s improved. But that’s as a rep coach, which is totally different, it’s short term, so players aren’t being pushed beyond their limits and as Madge says, it’s with the best players in the world. I think Madge’s best coaching position is rep football, he’s proven that he’s good at that.
Gotta agree with Sandor... if they leave Kevie at the steering wheel.... and the Broncos shit the bed.....it'll tarnish his status further. He doesn't deserve that.
Personally I think the issue Kevvie seemed to have was he wanted to be one of the boys too much, instead of creating a proper separation of coach and player group. Considering how egotistical and immature some of the current players seem I think they need a boss not a mate.
Interesting chat around Madge and you guys on Bloke when Madge was named NSW coach said he would be great for NSW or NZ too because its shorter camps would work better with his intensity and that a whole season of him, for multiple seasons too, might be too much to handle. But now he's the perfect choice for Broncos 🤔 I don't disagree and he probably is the best replacement, it would just be interesting now to see how he would go as a full time nrl coach again and how the broncos boys would go under him, especially the younger guys like Walsh etc. Certainly makes this fascinating for next year regardless 😄 And i do agree with Kempy that it should just be the best man for the job and the old boys need to just get over it. Shouldn't pick a weaker option just cause he's a Qlder, thats just dumb and illogical imo. But im from NSW so.. 🤷♂️😅
@BlokeInABar Yep he's probably the best replacement all things considered and yeah you're right, coaches do learn and improve and someone like him probably won't be overwhelmed either by coaching a big club like Brisbane. Im just interested to see how it all unfolds now. Assuming he gets the job too, i wonder what NSW do now as well. I liked him as NSW coach haha and there weren't a ton of great coaching options floating around when he took over
Michael Maguire's team results since 2014 - 7th, 12th, 12th, 9th, 11th, 13th. One final series in 6 years. He lost the playing group at Souths & was picking an old Farah over Cook. The following year after sacked at the Rabbits, they made a Prelim & Cook became a rep player. The players at the Tigers & Rabbits couldn't stand Madge. He hasn't kept up with the modern game. Meanwhile Holbrook has taken the Roosters from the 3rd worst attacking team in the comp to the best attacking team in the comp, in one pre season. & he had the Titans in the finals & in finals contention when he was sacked, with a worse roster. Holbrook is a modern day coach. Madge is a specialised 3 - 4 game series coach. Players can't stand him week to week.
The roster he had at the Rabbits & came 7th, 12th & 12th is absolutely no different to Kevvie missing the 8 in 3/4 years with the roster he had at the Broncos. Holbrook has proven he can turn rookies & up & coming players into better players. This year at the Roosters he has proven that he can improve a super star team. With the greatest respect coaching a team full of superstars in NSW & NZ in a 3 game series, is not a true reflection of how good of a coach you are. The way Cleary, Robbo & Bellamy transition rookies or unknown players into rep players is a true measure of how good of a coach you are. Madge lost 2 different clubs playing groups & hasn't had success in the NRL since 2014. Ballin had Broncos as the 2nd best defensive side in the comp in 2023. Pair him with Holbrook who had the Titans firing in attack & taken the Roosters from the 3rd worst attacking team in the comp to the best attacking team in the comp in one preason & you've got a perfect ying & yang combo - who's ego's won't get in the way of each other. Madge is Kevvie 2.0.
Maguire would be mad to take on the broncos job. Origin coach is the best job in the game, work for 5 months a year, 3 games and then go on holidays until February the next year. Red Hill is a snake pit, Madge would be undermined from day one. Powerhouse club? The broncs? Really?
Anyone can coach origin with talented players 😂😂😂 nrl coaching is much important and Madge is a professional youe not and yes the bronxos are a powerhouse club hate it or love it 😂😂
Kevys gone because the players wanted him out lol they’re surveyed the player on a bunch of shit and based off that they punted him. So that says everything you need to know
Knights staff also put out a statement. Not all of them were on board but to pretend like there wasn’t an error from at least one Knights staff is just not true.
@@BlokeInABar I heard plenty of criticism about the club in the poddy but nothing about Daddy Ponga. Also while I have your attention blokecraftbeer 2025 let's make it happen!
Its sbout time he gets sacked. The older boys from the broncos come out in defense of their mate which is admirablem but the fact is the broncos have only played finals once in the four years Kevie was coach. They also dropped the ball hard in 2022 when they slippef from 4th to 9 with 6 rounds to go. Last year they literally handed the title to penrith with 15 min to go. This year they had a shocking middle part of the year losing 6 in a row. Furthermore, his signing in recent times have been shocking. Bringing in Jayden Hunt, Fletcher Baker and Gogevski. Lets not forget his decision to not play the origin stars in a must win game. The amount of terrible decision that happened with him at the helm proves he is nowhere near NRL level as a coach. In the words of Cobbo he is a great bloke but not a good coach.
Kev was too matey matey with the players , too much booze ,, GF hangover , shorten pre season , las Vegas , crappiest draw , Origin , injuries , suspensions , poor rotation of the bench ( I like Corey Paix as a hooker but Billy was the 9 ) the list goes on
At end of day, club made a decision and nothing Kev could do to change that. All he is doing by fronting up is to protect/preserve his legacy. Almost guaranteed the club will pay out his full contract, they are just spinning it with PR that he is mutually resigning. Kev ain't stupid to leave money on table that he is entitled to legally and for his family. He won't be coaching again any time soon.
Yeah he was given the boot and they do have to pay out his contract. Walters loves the club enough to take a hit. Go and have a good rest Kev, enjoy a long relaxing break, you have earned it mate.
Had to watch the vid to make sure it’s not the great D Lockyer producing today
What’s doing with the Lockyer vs Kev chat? Seen it everywhere
@@Thisdracoundefeated maybe Lockyer wanted a tactical coach - remember Kev was sacked as an assistant prior to the 2006 season
@@Tonymarshall11 ahh forgot about 06, hope we can find someone who’s got the experience like beak said if we’re going for tactics
@beaksbag who do you think will be the next coach at the broncos aaaand don’t think Madge or who ever will give us a prem in 3 years?
@@ThisdracoundefeatedI haven’t this comment is just talking about his voice being croaky
This is the content we want and you continue to deliver! Love your work lads 🎉
Thx bro!
Lets hope Madge is happy to remain NSW coach and Nsw rugby league steps up $.
I think it’s interesting Kempy mentioning that the army camp stuff doesn’t work on this generation. I think that’s incorrect. I think it works perfectly. It toughens and bonds the right players and weeds out the wrong players. You put that Brisbane camp through an army camp pre-season and you’ll know exactly who you can build around. Penrith did it, worked okay for them.
I didn’t say the army stuff doesn’t work. I said I felt he was too old school to relate to the next generation.
We used to do 6 day army camps now they are no longer than 2 nights.
Things have changed. And I think all of the coaches from the early 2000s have changed with those times.
Bellamy is no where near as hardcore as he was 20 yrs ago. Bennett isn’t either. Nor is Madge.
Army camps still work just not ones as hectic as ones they used to do.
I used to be in the army, and got to participate in a broncos preseason camp (in Canungra), for one morning when prince and Wallace were tussling for the 7 jumper, and there was nothing they did at that camp they couldn’t have done back at red hill 🤷♂️
They weren’t doing it too tough to say the least, except for the fact they weren’t allowed beers at dinner time 😂
@@BlokeInABarlol flipflop
What are you basing this off are you an insider?
@@BlokeInABarI’d froth a 6 day camp why do you think players in my generation are softer? They’re paid more and do less.
I couldn’t disagree with the sacking more strongly. I’m a cows fan, and after the cows finished top 4 we had a shocking year and finished 9th or 10th(?). Plenty of chat about Payten’s job. Then, the boys got over the hangover, and possibly themselves, and got back into their work. Finished top 5 the next year (this year).
Broncos could very well have done what the cows did, but the broncos board did what they’ve done for a long time now and showed no patience and expected the same success they used to enjoy.
I hope I’m wrong, I really do, but unless they have another coach lined up ready to go, this could go badly.
14th, 9th, runners up, 12th! Missing the 8, 3 years out of 4 is not good enough! We were getting thrashed towards the back end of the season and Kevvie completely lost the dressing room. If this was any other coach not linked to the Broncos with these results no one would blink an eye lid when they got the sack!
it's time for the old boys at the bronx to ZIP it. They are by far the most critical and loud out of all ex player groups. If they truly love the club they would have the clubs priorities always as the most important thing. I honestly believe they endorsed Kevie Walters so bad so they could all infiltrate and relive the glory days. It's insane now too think we won a wooden spoon and appointed a rookie coach to lead us out of that. If it wasn't for the strong roster arguments could be made we'd of been lucky to make it out of the bottom 4 with Walters at the helm.
They don’t Tallis been broncos biggest hater since he got sacked and Broncos won 97&98 then by the time Wayne left he was on contract with titans
Great poddy lads!
He did the press conference and didn’t mention or thank the players once.. says a lot. On another note I hope they stay away from Michael Maguire
My beaks bag question, can matty take a strepsil for that gravel throat?
Old boys theory starting to see some light. They don’t won’t this next gen to become great
The nrl has to be very careful of how they handle the KP situation if they’re gonna punish him. You don’t want to set a precedent that you then can’t take back if it ends up hurting the international game
I love your jacket Denan :)
I'm really disappointed that Mal named Coates in the Kangaroos squad. I wanted him to play for the Kumuls.
Are you okay Denan?
He's coffee zapped
I love Madge, but I think this hindsight of “he was actually doing a decent job at the Tigers” is bit of a stretch.
The biggest issues that Madge had at the Tigers was that he was far too relentless and overtime his ability to get the best out of his players became untenable.
He also had a horror run of recruiting players, specifically within player circles, players warned other players against being a player under his coaching.
Tactically he didn’t really have an identity of what he wanted the team to do, season Madge was sacked he started off 0-7 and the big thing was “what is this team’s identity?”
We can apply what we’ve seen since and talk about how he’s improved. But that’s as a rep coach, which is totally different, it’s short term, so players aren’t being pushed beyond their limits and as Madge says, it’s with the best players in the world.
I think Madge’s best coaching position is rep football, he’s proven that he’s good at that.
Taulagi chose Samoa over Kangaroos. He did it last year so he must be committed to them long term now
Well said kempy!👏👏👏🫶🫶🫶
@30:23 - 30:24 had me lolling
Didn't Murray Taulagi declare fir somoa last year
Murray Taulagi pled his allegiance to Samoa at last year's Pacific Series Kempy, so pretty much made himself unavailable for the kangaroos
Oh no way! I didn’t know. Fair enough. Thx bro 👊
Bring in Brad Thorn.
He left the reds because the job was too consuming. Multiply that by 1000 for life as the broncos coach
Gotta agree with Sandor... if they leave Kevie at the steering wheel.... and the Broncos shit the bed.....it'll tarnish his status further.
He doesn't deserve that.
Brad Arthur?
If he doesn’t want to play for Aus then he shouldn’t play for QLD go focus on your premiership then
Or does he want to play for NZ, but has to give up SOO to do so 🤷♂️
He wants a yr off after missing lots of games over the last few yrs what is your problem with that?
Agree with beak %100, I’d be getting Madge in
Yo keen for bags
Personally I think the issue Kevvie seemed to have was he wanted to be one of the boys too much, instead of creating a proper separation of coach and player group. Considering how egotistical and immature some of the current players seem I think they need a boss not a mate.
Can we get a text to speech for matty when his voice is fucked? 😂
Player revolt I think (Cobbo click wins the day). Madge is not right fit for Broncos.
Mam and Walsh are in Bali causing shit, so sack the coach hey
What did they do?
So I just heard you’re an embarrassment to your grandfather
Interesting chat around Madge and you guys on Bloke when Madge was named NSW coach said he would be great for NSW or NZ too because its shorter camps would work better with his intensity and that a whole season of him, for multiple seasons too, might be too much to handle.
But now he's the perfect choice for Broncos 🤔
I don't disagree and he probably is the best replacement, it would just be interesting now to see how he would go as a full time nrl coach again and how the broncos boys would go under him, especially the younger guys like Walsh etc.
Certainly makes this fascinating for next year regardless 😄
And i do agree with Kempy that it should just be the best man for the job and the old boys need to just get over it. Shouldn't pick a weaker option just cause he's a Qlder, thats just dumb and illogical imo. But im from NSW so.. 🤷♂️😅
Kind of as I mentioned bro. I’ve come around. Having spoken to a few NSW blues boys from their camp. He’s definitely improved.
@BlokeInABar Yep he's probably the best replacement all things considered and yeah you're right, coaches do learn and improve and someone like him probably won't be overwhelmed either by coaching a big club like Brisbane. Im just interested to see how it all unfolds now.
Assuming he gets the job too, i wonder what NSW do now as well. I liked him as NSW coach haha and there weren't a ton of great coaching options floating around when he took over
Michael Maguire's team results since 2014 - 7th, 12th, 12th, 9th, 11th, 13th. One final series in 6 years. He lost the playing group at Souths & was picking an old Farah over Cook. The following year after sacked at the Rabbits, they made a Prelim & Cook became a rep player.
The players at the Tigers & Rabbits couldn't stand Madge. He hasn't kept up with the modern game.
Meanwhile Holbrook has taken the Roosters from the 3rd worst attacking team in the comp to the best attacking team in the comp, in one pre season. & he had the Titans in the finals & in finals contention when he was sacked, with a worse roster.
Holbrook is a modern day coach. Madge is a specialised 3 - 4 game series coach. Players can't stand him week to week.
The roster he had at the Rabbits & came 7th, 12th & 12th is absolutely no different to Kevvie missing the 8 in 3/4 years with the roster he had at the Broncos.
Holbrook has proven he can turn rookies & up & coming players into better players. This year at the Roosters he has proven that he can improve a super star team.
With the greatest respect coaching a team full of superstars in NSW & NZ in a 3 game series, is not a true reflection of how good of a coach you are. The way Cleary, Robbo & Bellamy transition rookies or unknown players into rep players is a true measure of how good of a coach you are.
Madge lost 2 different clubs playing groups & hasn't had success in the NRL since 2014.
Ballin had Broncos as the 2nd best defensive side in the comp in 2023. Pair him with Holbrook who had the Titans firing in attack & taken the Roosters from the 3rd worst attacking team in the comp to the best attacking team in the comp in one preason & you've got a perfect ying & yang combo - who's ego's won't get in the way of each other.
Madge is Kevvie 2.0.
Bruh... Broncos number 7 is NSWs rep player.
Maguire would be mad to take on the broncos job. Origin coach is the best job in the game, work for 5 months a year, 3 games and then go on holidays until February the next year.
Red Hill is a snake pit, Madge would be undermined from day one.
Powerhouse club? The broncs? Really?
Anyone can coach origin with talented players 😂😂😂 nrl coaching is much important and Madge is a professional youe not and yes the bronxos are a powerhouse club hate it or love it 😂😂
Kevys gone because the players wanted him out lol they’re surveyed the player on a bunch of shit and based off that they punted him. So that says everything you need to know
The "guy" managing him is his dad, stop shitting all over Newcastle club staff
Knights staff also put out a statement. Not all of them were on board but to pretend like there wasn’t an error from at least one Knights staff is just not true.
@@BlokeInABar I heard plenty of criticism about the club in the poddy but nothing about Daddy Ponga. Also while I have your attention blokecraftbeer 2025 let's make it happen!
Stay patient, Broncos fans
Its sbout time he gets sacked. The older boys from the broncos come out in defense of their mate which is admirablem but the fact is the broncos have only played finals once in the four years Kevie was coach. They also dropped the ball hard in 2022 when they slippef from 4th to 9 with 6 rounds to go. Last year they literally handed the title to penrith with 15 min to go. This year they had a shocking middle part of the year losing 6 in a row. Furthermore, his signing in recent times have been shocking. Bringing in Jayden Hunt, Fletcher Baker and Gogevski. Lets not forget his decision to not play the origin stars in a must win game. The amount of terrible decision that happened with him at the helm proves he is nowhere near NRL level as a coach. In the words of Cobbo he is a great bloke but not a good coach.
Kev was too matey matey with the players , too much booze ,, GF hangover , shorten pre season , las Vegas , crappiest draw , Origin , injuries , suspensions , poor rotation of the bench ( I like Corey Paix as a hooker but Billy was the 9 ) the list goes on
At end of day, club made a decision and nothing Kev could do to change that. All he is doing by fronting up is to protect/preserve his legacy. Almost guaranteed the club will pay out his full contract, they are just spinning it with PR that he is mutually resigning. Kev ain't stupid to leave money on table that he is entitled to legally and for his family. He won't be coaching again any time soon.
Yeah he was given the boot and they do have to pay out his contract. Walters loves the club enough to take a hit. Go and have a good rest Kev, enjoy a long relaxing break, you have earned it mate.
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