What about Müsing bows? They are slightly heavier and more flexible, are they still stiff and light enough to get out of the danger zone of 50 to 80 Hz or not?
Yes, they are. The Müsing bows are now played by thousands of players all round the world and so far we have not received any feedback that someone would experience fatigue or pain with a Müsing bow. Initially I was not completely sure, as there is not enough research done as to the precise problematic frequency range, but apparently we are outside of that spectrum with all our bows.
The fundamental resonance is a result of the stiffness against the weight of the bow. Most carbon bows are similar in weight and stiffness to wooden bows, so their fundamental resonance is the same. Some bow are a bit stiffer, so their resonance is a bit higher, but not enough to move out of the dangerous frequency range. As far as I know only our bows solve this problem.
I'd be interested to see a video of your process for manufacturing the Arcus bows. Have had mine for around 14 years and have always been curious about how it was made. BTW when I got mine I was suffering from "tennis elbow" in my bow arm using a heavier wooden bow and this went away after switching to the Arcus and has never recurred. I always assumed that the lighter weight was the main factor.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Fiddler Steve! Sorry we never got back to you on this comment. I'm happy to hear that your pain disappeared since you're using an Arcus bow. That is actually something that a lot of musicians experience. You are correct, the lighter weight is responsible for that. Together with the much higher stiffness, it produces a basic resonance which is one octave higher than that of a wooden bow. We found that the low frequency vibrations of a wooden bow (around 50 Hz) is actually causing pain in the players' thumb, backhand, wrist, elbow and shoulder.
@@ARCUSMuesing I too can't wait to see your manufacturing process, I am sure you can still show your bows being being made without revieling your secrets.
I have scoliosis. And at times, I have arm bow ache but much of the time is from stress. I ve had to concentrate on relaxing my shoulder and neck plus using an bent end pin and it has helped a lot. Plus stretching before and after playing. I disagree with your take on this.
Hello Picco, here is Bernd Müsing. I also have a Scoliosis, so I guess I know what you are into. I used to have serious problems when playing wooden bows, but they have disappeared since I play my own Arcus bows. (Besides I found swimming is the best medicine for me.) What exactly are you disagreeing with, by the way?
Well, we put an engraving to the side of the stick, which says ARCUS and then the type, for example ~T6~. On the underside, covered by the frog you will also find a serial number.
Of course we have done lots of measurements. But not only we have, you may search for "Violin bow vibrations" by Colin E. Gough from the School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Birmingham, Birmingham B15 2TT, United Kingdomof Physics (Received 27 October 2011; revised 21 February 2012; accepted 23 February 2012). It gives a fundamental resonance of 50.7 Hz. But you can find more literature of course. So no, it's not made up but proper Science.
What about Müsing bows? They are slightly heavier and more flexible, are they still stiff and light enough to get out of the danger zone of 50 to 80 Hz or not?
Yes, they are. The Müsing bows are now played by thousands of players all round the world and so far we have not received any feedback that someone would experience fatigue or pain with a Müsing bow. Initially I was not completely sure, as there is not enough research done as to the precise problematic frequency range, but apparently we are outside of that spectrum with all our bows.
Thank you for sharing the information. Would you think that all carbon bows would display the same property of resonating at higher frequencies?
The fundamental resonance is a result of the stiffness against the weight of the bow. Most carbon bows are similar in weight and stiffness to wooden bows, so their fundamental resonance is the same. Some bow are a bit stiffer, so their resonance is a bit higher, but not enough to move out of the dangerous frequency range. As far as I know only our bows solve this problem.
I'd be interested to see a video of your process for manufacturing the Arcus bows. Have had mine for around 14 years and have always been curious about how it was made. BTW when I got mine I was suffering from "tennis elbow" in my bow arm using a heavier wooden bow and this went away after switching to the Arcus and has never recurred. I always assumed that the lighter weight was the main factor.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Fiddler Steve! Sorry we never got back to you on this comment.
I'm happy to hear that your pain disappeared since you're using an Arcus bow. That is actually something that a lot of musicians experience. You are correct, the lighter weight is responsible for that. Together with the much higher stiffness, it produces a basic resonance which is one octave higher than that of a wooden bow. We found that the low frequency vibrations of a wooden bow (around 50 Hz) is actually causing pain in the players' thumb, backhand, wrist, elbow and shoulder.
@@ARCUSMuesing I too can't wait to see your manufacturing process, I am sure you can still show your bows being being made without revieling your secrets.
I have scoliosis. And at times, I have arm bow ache but much of the time is from stress. I ve had to concentrate on relaxing my shoulder and neck plus using an bent end pin and it has helped a lot. Plus stretching before and after playing. I disagree with your take on this.
Hello Picco, here is Bernd Müsing. I also have a Scoliosis, so I guess I know what you are into. I used to have serious problems when playing wooden bows, but they have disappeared since I play my own Arcus bows. (Besides I found swimming is the best medicine for me.) What exactly are you disagreeing with, by the way?
How do I know which one I have
Well, we put an engraving to the side of the stick, which says ARCUS and then the type, for example ~T6~. On the underside, covered by the frog you will also find a serial number.
Hey I just saw ur video and I’m wondering. I don’t know the difference between an Arcus now and a normal bow.
Well, the difference is pretty much everything: Materials, weight, stiffness, camber (curve), shape,... play, sound, comfort,...
This 50hz,you just Made in Up.
Of course we have done lots of measurements. But not only we have, you may search for "Violin bow vibrations" by Colin E. Gough from the School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Birmingham, Birmingham B15 2TT, United Kingdomof Physics (Received 27 October 2011; revised 21 February 2012; accepted 23 February 2012). It gives a fundamental resonance of 50.7 Hz. But you can find more literature of course. So no, it's not made up but proper Science.
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