Top 10 Darkest Viola Pieces Ever Written

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  • When composers need to express a dark emotion such as grief, depression, or even terror, they often turn to the sound and character of the viola. Often, those pieces have ended up being the final works those composers ever wrote.
    Number 1 on this list is currently my favorite piece, and it is probably the darkest musical work you will ever hear.
    Vieuxtemps also wrote a gorgeous short piece called Capriccio for Solo Viola, but I only wanted to put one Vieuxtemps piece. On the same vein, Hindemith has a plethora of dark movements in his sonatas that could deserve a spot on this list. I just chose the work of his which I thought was darkest.
    How many of these pieces had you heard of before? Do you know one you think I have missed? Let me know in the comments!
    Links (DON'T SPOIL THE VIDEO FOR YOURSELF BY PEEKING AT THEM!)
    Vieuxtemps Elegy: • Henri Vieuxtemps: Eleg...
    Wieniawksi Reverie: • Ken Hamao plays viola:...
    Glazunov Elegy: • Glazunov Elegie for vi...
    Liszt Romance Oubliee: • An Imperfect Instrumen...
    Britten Elegy: • Benjamin Britten - Ele...
    Ligeti Sonata: • Yana Kucherova - Gyorg...
    Hindemith Trauermusik: • Paul Hindemith: Trauer...
    Howells Elegy: • Howells Elegy Op.15 - ...
    Stravinsky Elegy: • Igor Strawinsky: Élegi...
    Shostakovich Sonata: • Dmitri Shostakovich - ...
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  • @ViolaKing
    @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Number 1 on the list is currently my favorite piece (I’m also learning it)!
    Also the Vieuxtemps Elegy is in F minor instead of C minor as someone pointed out-my apologies! I realized that makes the keys of the first 3 pieces f, f#, and g minor all in a row. Maybe I am just a nerd but I find that oddly satisfying haha

    • @kelvinp.coleman563
      @kelvinp.coleman563 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's cool, F minor is darker than C minor anyway. 😁
      I don't really care for the Ligeti, or at least the first movement with the microtones, because no matter how deliberately it's been composed it just ends up sounding like a second-rate player hitting too many wrong notes, and there are more than enough unhelpful jokes about that sort of thing already. Perhaps it'd be easier to appreciate the conceptual intent if it were played on an instrument that doesn't routinely get trashed by non-experts - maybe give it to the clarinet, which often has a similar expressive quality to the viola (as well as almost the same range), and which is "easier" to "keep in tune", so that the deviations from standard harmonic writing will actually be recognised as a deliberate artistic choice by the majority of mainstream listening audiences.

    • @Someone2464-
      @Someone2464- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same i am a trumpet player but I like the dark emotion it shows a statement that Shostakovich is leaving us with and pain Shostakovich experienced.

  • @SSAviation737
    @SSAviation737 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Wow. The negative emotions of each piece are so deeply conveyed with the viola. Of course Shostakovich would be on the list, considering what he has been through.

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They sure are, that’s why it is such a special instrument

    • @henrigraber2741
      @henrigraber2741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does negative emotions exist ? I am not sure.

    • @SSAviation737
      @SSAviation737 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henrigraber2741 Yep

    • @henrigraber2741
      @henrigraber2741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "negative" would mean, in my view, this sort of emotion should not exist. But all kind of emotions have their place in our existence.

    • @SSAviation737
      @SSAviation737 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henrigraber2741 Well said.

  • @lovebug2207
    @lovebug2207 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I learned how to play the Viola in 7th grade
    I almost got to play at the Hershey Symphony in Pennsylvania. When that fell through I felt even more sadness at such an early age. The Viola was my first love and we understood one another.
    Time to buy a new 1 and pick up where I left off
    Thank you for sharing this video

  • @elissahunt
    @elissahunt ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I love this video! It clearly shows how lovely and expressive the viola can be. Yes, the pieces are dark, but they are also beautiful. And the video highlights not just some amazing pieces, but some terrific violists as well. Excellently done.

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I always end up discovering more great violists when I make videos

    • @Casutama
      @Casutama ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, I didn't think I'd see you in this comment section! I'm glad you love this video as much as I do!

    • @elissahunt
      @elissahunt ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Casutama I've been a fan of James since his original channel. He may have had a few hundred followers then, I don't recall. He's an amazing violist, and I love his content. I don't play viola, though it was my very first instrument. I had a horrible teacher who made me hate playing. Fortunately, instead of quitting altogether, I switched to clarinet.

    • @cindyrubinfine2941
      @cindyrubinfine2941 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brandenburg #6❤

  • @pibbles-a-plenty1105
    @pibbles-a-plenty1105 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Listening to sad music helps greatly to unburden myself from grief, anger and loneliness. I believe such works are a major pillar of the classical music genre. The viola is most expressive in this regard. Thank you.

  • @jameslewis4059
    @jameslewis4059 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi James.
    I'm James and a violist too. Hi. Yay for the viola.

  • @youzhang5018
    @youzhang5018 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Hey viola king! can you do a video which you rank viola pieces in a tier list in terms of difficulty like the one twoset did. I believe It'll be really helpful for lot of people

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That sounds like a fun idea, thanks!

    • @telebtw5697
      @telebtw5697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ViolaKing bump

  • @Casutama
    @Casutama ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I keep recommending this video to people because it explains so well, with so many music examples, and at the same time so succinctly, many of the things I have come to love about the viola. Thanks for making this!

  • @aidenplaysgames9905
    @aidenplaysgames9905 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great list! Lovee the shosty sonata. If this was the top 11 darkest pieces I'd add the frank bridge lament for 2 violas. Thanks for introducing me to the Stravinsky elegy!

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bridge is an excellent piece and certainly very dark. Chamber music wasn’t on my mind when I was making this list but it would definitely qualify since it’s comprised of 2 violas

  • @Cherry_sew_sweet
    @Cherry_sew_sweet ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love Shostakovich even though it makes me cry lol. Soviet composers were just a different breed

  • @masantonio8790
    @masantonio8790 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Vieuxtemps Elegie is in F Minor :)
    Anyways, nice list. The Elegie is also a super fun to play piece. Honorable mention IMO is the Schnittke Viola Concerto.

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agh ur completely right! And I even played it before too lol. This is what I get for doing my work in the AM hours…

    • @abigailcrossman3373
      @abigailcrossman3373 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely the Schnittke- So beautifully painful. Agree with Shostakovich sonata- really depressing and also Stravinsky Elegy- so lonely. None of this music should be listened to by anyone with suicidal tendencies!
      Not a viola piece, but Britten’s violin concerto (the recording by Lorraine McAslan) is so sad and poignant. I’m always in tears at the end and I’m not even that sort of person.

  • @ClassicalMusicbyRLLarsen-jp4rj
    @ClassicalMusicbyRLLarsen-jp4rj หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hooray for the viola! I love writing for it and giving it more chances to shine in quartets and small ensembles. Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @tonkaphilips4674
    @tonkaphilips4674 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video! I would also include alfred schnittkes viola concerto, specificly for one moment in which the viola and the piano play a simple, hopefull and yearning melody in an upwards sequence, but the strings slowly grow louder and louder with a disturbing cluster. that contrast gives me chills every time.

  • @prestonelliott24
    @prestonelliott24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i recently played trauermusik at a competition and i think the reason it is so hard is cuz of the really high musical expectation. if u play the piece like a robot u arent doing the piece justice. the more musicality u can add to it the better the piece will sound

  • @neilcam
    @neilcam ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A truly excellent list and a big part of why I love the viola so much!

  • @MILAMGM
    @MILAMGM ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Playing #2 🎻It breaks my heart every time 💔

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s on my bucket list as well. Good luck!

  • @songfulmusicofsongs
    @songfulmusicofsongs ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for the wonderful list! It's very interesting. Viola is an amazing instrument, an these pieces show how great it can be. It's such a nice video! Now I will be able to discover new colors that viola can express!

  • @oxoelfoxo
    @oxoelfoxo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    always like these types of videos. must look up the full length vids when the mood strikes.

  • @unbekannternutzer25
    @unbekannternutzer25 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Glasunov's elegy is my favourite piece for viola. But I listened to too much metal to get how sad it's supposed to be. At this point it's just a nice piece to me :)

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The melody been stuck in my head often since I made this video

  • @randylarosa7381
    @randylarosa7381 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    most excellent .Did you forget Fredrick Bridge, Sir Arnold Bax, Percy Grainger.

  • @grahamexeter3399
    @grahamexeter3399 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful compilation of beautiful dark works for my favourite string instrument. Thanks so much for including the Liszt ! He's so rarely taken into consideration as a chamber music composer, and the Romance and 2 Elegies deserve to be much better known. Your list plus Liszt's Elegies, Martinu's Rhapsody-Concerto, Britten's Lachrymae and Holst's Lyric Movement - another last work - would be my Top 15 darkest viola works. Plus there are plenty more! - e.g. Grisey, Dufourt, Gubaidulina and Kancheli - all dark, dark, dark ... and fabulous!

  • @themusiccovenant
    @themusiccovenant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing 👏

  • @pabproductions9166
    @pabproductions9166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d add Charles Koechlin Viola Sonata near the top of the list. Absolute technical monster of a piece but goes into some really dark places. He wrote it at the closing of WWI, having volunteered as an ambulance operator for the wounded.

  • @Reioloshi
    @Reioloshi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Speaking of Violas being able to express sadness, I played my favorite piece, Chanson Triste (Tchaikovsky) and once i played like the first 6 measures, my teacher told me to stop playing it because it sounded sad lol

  • @kalinditrue
    @kalinditrue 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great list! I was hoping to hear you talk about the Penderecki Cadenza. It’s just so apocalyptic and devastating! Maybe we need a part two to this video? 😉

  • @gabriellag1424
    @gabriellag1424 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great list! Also Penderecki Viola Concerto (or Cadenza) would fit into it.

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The cadenza definitely has some painful moments with all of the dissonances written in. There’s a case to be made for the full concerto as well but I ended up steering away from concerti since I felt the virtuosic element made them less sincerely expressive

    • @gabriellag1424
      @gabriellag1424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ViolaKing I only played the Concerto, not the Cadenza. I always felt that the second part of the Concerto(with the chromatic/virtuosic elements) express a lot of struggeling and pain. I think in this case virtuosity serves to express the deep meaning of the Concerto. But it is definetly not the case in every concerti.

  • @markcharles8781
    @markcharles8781 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you

  • @cosnzaidm5024
    @cosnzaidm5024 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice, I’m a sucker for solemn and dramatic pieces. And a piece with microtones? I wanna try it sometime …

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ligeti is probably one of the hardest pieces on this list partially for that reason-go for it!

  • @theMMAdhatter
    @theMMAdhatter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Howell's Elegy has always been my favourite, if only for its backstory, and the unique way in which it uses both a soloist and a quartet within the orchestral setting. But Vieuxtemps and Glazunov have always been right behind (because I'm basic AF and love me some romance lol)
    But I think a few of these wouldn't be out of place in a "darkest viola pieces" lineup:
    Forsyth's Chanson Celtique
    Joachim's Hebräische Melodien
    Pártos' Yizkor
    Jongen's Suite for Viola and Orchestra (esp. the first movement, Poème Élégiaque)
    Bridge's Lament for Two Violas (it easily edges out his Pensiero imo)
    Hovhaness' Chahagir
    Kancheli's Styx
    Lowry's Romanza for Four Violas
    Le Beau's Nachtstück (from Three Pieces)

  • @ClassicalRaritiesChannel
    @ClassicalRaritiesChannel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice compilation. Where is Schnittke's Concerto though!! 🙂

    • @songfulmusicofsongs
      @songfulmusicofsongs ปีที่แล้ว

      It's never too late. It can be an opportunity for more interesting content.

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was considering this and some other concerti such as Walton and Bartok. There’s certainly a case to be made for them, but I felt like the virtuosic element of them took away from the purity of a piece written only from a place of bedding to express a deep feeling. I also felt somewhat this way about the vieuxtemps elegy which is why it was lowest on my list

  • @googleuser2691
    @googleuser2691 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mr. King, if my mother was apart of the Dallas symphony and my grandmother was a instrumental teacher in Cuba and somehow it passed on to me where ive learned to play the euphonium, tuba, piano, trumpet and some Bass clarinet.. even though it's been so many years since I've played anyting do you think it would be just as easy to learn Viola, a string instrument that I have never even touched.. There is so much music like this or climactic music from movies where I feel everything and hear every little detail, it brings me great emotion and it's always been a dream to start on my own and just start learning so one day i can join an Orchestra. But with life and having to pay bills.. it just doesn't seem very feasible even with my musical Talent

  • @RomanGolubev_A
    @RomanGolubev_A 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not quite dark, but rather, as you said yourself, mixed emotions.

  • @alectronablack555
    @alectronablack555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video, King. More! More!! More!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @lpldl
    @lpldl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a fantastic list. But may I add two pieces into consideration? Berio's Sequenza VI for Viola, which is a vortex of aggressiveness. And Shostakovich's 13th String Quartet, which does center around the viola. Talk about hopelessness.

    • @lpldl
      @lpldl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And if we count string quartet pieces, Janacek's 2nd string quartet (Intimate Letters) is an extremely devastating piece. And it does highlights the viola quite often.

    • @ViolaKing
      @ViolaKing  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Berio crossed my mind but I felt like no one would want to listen to it because it’s so harsh! I would put it #1 on a list of difficult pieces though. As for chamber, dark viola-featuring pieces could make a whole other video

    • @lpldl
      @lpldl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ViolaKing That's very true... I watched a video with Amihai Grosz performing Berio which was fantastic. After that I sought out a recording and couldn't finish it... It's just so... noisy... I guess the visual added something to it. I'd be very happy if you made a chamber version of this list.😂 And of course there're the dark, viola-featuring orchestral pieces like Mahler 10... I mean who said viola doesn't have a repertoire?😅

  • @frankiestevonson7496
    @frankiestevonson7496 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played elegie for my music extension music and man I love it

  • @Violamanben
    @Violamanben ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great list and embarrassingly had more than one piece with which I was unfamiliar.
    I must admit I prefer to weep diatonically. I’ve heard the Shostakovich multiple times and it never grew on me.

  • @ivanpotter4634
    @ivanpotter4634 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you think about Viola Concerto & Orchestra composed by Sofiya Gubaidulina, or Viola Concerto & Chamber Orchestra composed by Krzysztof Penderecki? Gubaidulina - Viola Concerto is a masterpiece written especially as a tribute to Yuri Bashmett, for his exceptional viola virtuosity. I've heard many opinions about this piece, I know it, and I've also read that it is probably considered the best concerto ever written for this amazing instrument. One can also mention her concerto for two violas "Two Patts". I wanted to ask what do you think about these works? The same questions I have about Krzysztof Penderecki and his also known Concerto for viola and chamber orchestra. He became famous for this piece as a gift to Hugo Chavez at a celebration. I hope for an answer and best regards. I like your collection. Hence my questions about the opinion of my proposals. 🙂🤝🏻🎻

  • @josemotta9560
    @josemotta9560 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Foi vendo esta senhora tocar esta música e ao falar da viola que comprei a minha

  • @42pyroboy
    @42pyroboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    viola gang

  • @totalblxck
    @totalblxck ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why doesn't anyone talk about dark evil (angry) orchestral music? where and how to find it? Phrygian, Locrian type vibe and so on. Not a "dark" as gloomy daub, but an aggressive sound "to the face"
    btw last one piece was close

  • @christophzayas8613
    @christophzayas8613 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love dark music ❤

  • @slicedthree80_43
    @slicedthree80_43 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I studied under the same person as the woman who played #7

  • @kronoscamron7412
    @kronoscamron7412 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you get two violists to play together in time?
    Shoot one of them.

  • @MercurialMoon
    @MercurialMoon ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love romance oubliee

  • @daviddazasuarez2947
    @daviddazasuarez2947 ปีที่แล้ว

    🧐🧐🧐 It would have been wonderful to hear Yuri Bashmet’s version of the Schostakowitsch viola sonata…

  • @LukosCelestou
    @LukosCelestou 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the song that goes (A# A G C#) then goes (A# A {D E F#)

  • @PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS
    @PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where's the schnittke concerto

  • @jwhite3578
    @jwhite3578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Walton concerto is pretty dark

  • @lazycat724
    @lazycat724 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your voiceover audio is much louder than the music which is note optimal

  • @IsaacParkViolin
    @IsaacParkViolin ปีที่แล้ว

    !

  • @user-qj6lt7ir4u
    @user-qj6lt7ir4u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thomaso Albimoni

  • @lucyp863
    @lucyp863 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 set violin be like: lol

  • @DmitriShostakovichDSCH
    @DmitriShostakovichDSCH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i was just a bit extra like that. sorry 😅

  • @yassinebien
    @yassinebien ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi😉, I research about Some Piece but i can't find it please contact me at comment 🥰🥰

    • @yassinebien
      @yassinebien ปีที่แล้ว

      The piece is this:
      th-cam.com/video/1Kh3m19q9Lk/w-d-xo.html

  • @wakingtheworld
    @wakingtheworld ปีที่แล้ว

    Pity you had to talk through most of the music... we needed the info though... and guess it invites us to check out the full versions... Had you allowed more uninterrupted listening time, the vid would probably have run to 20 minutes...

  • @lizziesmusicmaking
    @lizziesmusicmaking ปีที่แล้ว

    Why listen to dark music? Catharsis. The same thing the ancient greeks sought when they invented tragedy.

  • @kennielsen8554
    @kennielsen8554 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, you are wrong. Viola sounds beautiful and only beautiful. You are the thing that is grief, depression and terror.

    • @joseph2832
      @joseph2832 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bullshit

  • @marywayzee
    @marywayzee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are you talking over the music? It totally ruined my experience of watching this video.