Don’t accept the friend zone fellas. Don’t think you can wait her out. Make your intentions clear to her. If she isn’t on board, you take your time and attention elsewhere.
Thank you, I agree so much. If a woman rejects you, please just move the f**k on. Don't murder her, don't r**e her, don't assauIt her. There are millions of other fish in the sea. We're not required to give you affection just because you took us out to eat or gave us flowers. We are human beings, not booties for rent. So many men are like the ones in this comment section; they only see women as s** vending machines. When you try to start out as friends and get to know them better before jumping into a relationship, they get mad and accuse you of "friend zoning" them... whatever that is. Men are terrifying.
@@bellebonebag8096 to the contrary, I will conduct myself in a way that will make you rethink letting me go. I will up my game, my confidence, my style, and my success. I had an ex girlfriend of mine nearly trip an old lady trying to get to me, just 6 months after she got married to some simp who got her pregnant. Many years ago we were together, and she seemed to forget about her new husband in that moment. Sometimes the grass isn’t greener
I like pie! :) and as a girl dating kinda confusing idk what's going on I'll just kinda roll with what ever unless someone asks me out if I like them like that then it's a sure thing if not then I'll say I'm not in a good place for dat but there an awesome person!
@@hannahmcclellan1825 stop playing dumb and typing like a 10 year old. "Im not in a good place for that right now" still gives hope and puts many desperate men in friendzone. although they are desperate and dumb for not cutting you off once you say that, you are still a terrible human being for doing that instead of making your intentions clear that you dont want them
Guys, I struggled until my 28 year of age with women. Here is a quick resume instead of listening to her because you might take it the wrong way : - Be a challenge - Stop being "nice" - Don't be too available - Tease her with humor, be playful - Never ever put her on a pedestal - Your compliments should rather be on her personality than her physical appearance. - Don't show any emotional reaction to whatever she says. If you don't like something, tell her in a calm manner. For example : Anytime a woman says that I'm nice I go for a saying like : "I have my moments, yes." I know it's sound stupid but it works. - If you like a girl that has a boyfriend and she seems to like you, stop whatever you're building in your mind. She's looking for a replacement and she'll do the same to you. - There isn't the "one". Just women. Take your chances. If you get rejected, you win. If you get her you win. Get your mindset right then go talk to women. Peace. Last thing : "Never showed any sexual interest", don't do that unless she seems interested in you, you'll just scare her away. Time limit to know if she likes you : first interaction to 2 months if you're patient, longer than that, forget it and move on.
@@markwillhite9200 exactly hahah there are THOUSANDS of available single women out there, to pedestal just ONE and do all this random shit is silly, the second she doesn't find you attractive, just move on. Complete waste of time.
Sounds like a lot of unnecessary work why not just keep money buy one of those sex dolls or something why waste it on a woman😂 You don't need them and you could get everything you need without them just seems illogical to put so much stress and effort into something so useless and very little application
I know you're just joking around but that doesn't work. They communicate with each other and actually prevent guys from getting closer that way. Like when you go to a bar and talk to a female and her friend suddenly pulls her away? That's how they do it. And that's even if she's really interested in you.
This is such BS She friendzoned you because she is not physically attracted to you Remember, Chad can: Act as a friend Put her on a pedestal Take no lead Create no tension Literally do NOTHING And she WILL still sleep with him
Also, just because I want sex from you has nothing to do with friendship or a relationship. That might develop over time, but is not my goal to start with. I'd rather become friends with people in fucking than fuck my friends, lol.
Exactly and never mind if you're someone like me that's more introverted there's no way I could want to be in a relationship with a girl before I'm friends with her first and let's ignore that one of the best foundations to build a relationship on is a pre-existing friendship
If it's true that the easier you are to get, the less value you have, then why do women get angry when someone says that having a high body count is unattractive?
Because women are indoctrinated to believe that it isn’t, but at the same time they’re indoctrinated to believe that it’s not good in men. World class third way feminism entered the chat and the world went to hell with it.
I was friendzoned by a girl , I liked for years. One day, I had enough, I cut off contact, started ignoring her and a year later, she started throwing hints and tried flirting with me. I was done with her at that point, tho!
A woman is not entitled to give a man her body if she doesn't want too. Friend zoned is a myth when men liked to used that when they can't get what they want from a woman.
@@NorthernSpartan Women don't know how to attract women. They give terrible advice. It is more than proven that women don't know what they want themselves. There's even solid studies on that. They say they're attracted to something but then their pussy dries up when that happens. And the opposite is true aswell.
There's a simple solution, don't chase self important, entitled brats. I know it's hard to find a good woman, but she might as well name her nonsense "how to attempt to turn a hooker to a housewife"
@@NorthernSpartan is she wrong? Lol, this like giving advice to a 5 ft 5 kid on how to make the nba. “Just be confident and practice”. Women literally have zero clue or empathy of the thousands of men they dismiss as invisible, to stare at their inflated feeds of celebrities and top 1%
I may be wrong and there will be exceptions to what I am about to say, but most relationships that start with friendship are usually the ones that last a lifetime. The reason for that is you didn't just jump right in with someone based off of their looks. As friends, you start to hangout, you know what each other likes, you vibe together. So even when you become lovers, the friendship remains and it becomes a beautiful relationship where you know the person inside and out.
This is absolutely true and why you can throw out any or all advice given by any female about how to get them. I met my wife as a friend, had no expectations of it proceeded to anything else. Then it just blossomed into romance. Had zero control over it doing so, did absolutely nothing to “make her like me”, or “win her over”, it just happened. If you start out as friends first you can literally break every romantic rule women set up for men which are usually illogical, contradictory, or even an impossible standard to live up to.
@@joshuaalexander3248 I see what you’re saying, but the thing is that worked because you were not trying to pursue her constantly and you was doing your thing
We’ve heard millions of times that guys only want one thing, and we don’t take the time to get to know women. So we do the right thing - take it slow, treat you as a human being, and wait for the right opportunity to express romantic interest - then get friend-zoned because we didn’t act fast enough. Not in a year or a month - it happens in a matter of DAYS. Can’t even take you on a second or third date without getting this nonsense.
It really depends on the type of woman you're after. A lot of the women I know usually befriend a man before deciding whether to date or not. I don't think her rules are all that universal.
I’m barely holding my laughter at your bitterness. Relax, my dude. There’s a 99% chance that you weren’t rejected because you “treated her like a human being”, or “took it slow”, or “were a nice guy”, or whatever bullshitty reason you came up with to convince yourself that she was a horrible person who didn’t choose you despite being “obliged” to. There is a ton of other reasons why people (not just women, but men as well) reject their potential partners - rejected person’s bad breath, weird/evil behavior, boring personality, different lifestyle/interests, ugly face, excessive weight, small d or t’s… well, you name it; sometimes people are in love with someone else, or maybe they just don’t want any relationships (like I do), sometimes you’re just “not their type”, or they don’t feel something more deep than just attraction to you. “Being nice” is in the end of that list, if it is there at all. But yeah, who cares! Just forget all that and continue to believe that simply pretending to be a nice person obliges every woman on that planet to date you despite all these possible reasons not to, or your fragile ego will be broken :D
The only way to get out of the friendzone is to gather the courage. Say your truth and if she doesnt like it, then move on. Female friends are high maintenance and most of them are really one sided. Women don't cherish their male friends as much as their male friends cherish them. It gives them power and they love that.
The truth is I used very poor judgment when the woman I met put me in the friend zone. I met the woman on an online dating site . Her name was Lisa, and she lived 18 blocks from my house. After our first date, she told me she liked me as a friend. She was so attractive that I kept seeing her, hoping to win her over . Five years later, we were still only friends. It was my fault that I wasted five years of my life chasing her. Don't be like me , please don't be a simp.
I learned my lesson. I was hoping that by writing down my story , other men would see themselves and wake up to this fact :the woman you are chasing after will never see you as anything more than a friend. I know I should have known better, but over the years, I have learned that movies and television are works of fiction. When a woman tells you she doesn't like you " that way," believe her.
guys shouldnt wonder about this happening. i can tell from my experience that they would always come up without me sending any signal, trying to get my attention and everything. so i dont know what else to do as treading them like a friend
But didn't she say what is actually in your advantage? She literally gave anti simping advice. To set boundaries and to prioritize yourself. If you want to "avoid this type of woman" , then what fucking type of woman do you want, fatherless incel?
I feel like women like to put too much emphasis on nebulous things like: "the vibe, the energy, the ick or the chemistry" You can't explain these well to men. We generally speaking want more tangible things like: is she attractive, good in bed, or just doesn't have a horrible personality. We can't afford to be super picky, so we'll have a hard time understanding what exactly do women want especially as this is not necessarily the same for every woman. There is no magic formula or cheatcode to the female brain. The best general advice one could give is: take care of how you look and dress, build some confidence, take the initiative, don't be distraught by rejection and most importantly: have integrity. That is it gents. Let's stop pretending that these dating influencers have all the answers to your issues and can tell you why women don't want you without knowing anything about you.
I was ignorant about the friendzoned too. I did believed being FRIENDZONED means Real friends " Not long time ago I did learn Keep you as an orbiter/backup plan. A singelmom who friendzoned me 11 years ago suddenly believed we could takes our friendship to the next level. Little did She know I Friendzoned her back 11 years ago "
Exactly why I don’t care about being single I’d rather be single then have to deal with these mind games women pull, why do women have to complicate everything, I said a long time ago I’m good with all that, I’ve been happier ever since lol
Same for me and what she's talkin about if you're more introverted your mind just don't work like that it's hard enough to make friends Let alone developing a friendship with the girl before you can even think about asking her out
True, but it’s also important to note that kissing the ground someone walks on can create a lot of pressure on that person to reciprocate. Not only a turnoff, but honestly anxiety inducing.
I always tell people that I express interest in that "I don't kiss your feet and I don't kiss your ass." They don't always like that but I agree with you.
Every guy has sexual interest in a woman. They just don't see it. At this point, I wonder if the best strategy is to treat them like crap, or at least like you have no interest and can live without them. Women seem to desire what they can't get.
nooo, see it has nothing to do with showing intentions or not, pay attention to the second point this woman stated, "being easy make you look less valuable in her eyes", many nice guys who take the friendship route already think the woman they re courting is the best, the queen, an oasis in a desert, a pink diamond and a lot of qualities she probably doesnt even has, and at the same time the guys treat themselves as worthless, women arent dumb and they can know if you re into the them since the first second they meet you.
I have tried this, and the results are disgusting. I tried it for about a week or two, in one of my classes. I had the girls after me like mfs. Then, I let out my true self, because I felt uncomfortable with all the attention. Girls are disgusting, in that way. As soon as you are YOU, they don't like it. They only want dangerous abusive narcissistic jerks. Period.
Lots of women are attracted by guys that kind of treat them like shit. The silver lining is, these women are only good for sex and that's it. So, if you want more than that, you're not missing out on much.
I can't stop laughing. It's all about how you LOOK. If you aren't handsome, you can try to "hit on her", you'll get labeled as a "creep". If you are not hitting on her, and try to be "friends", sure, she'll friendzone you. Now, if you are handsome and you "hit on her", great, she'll accept gladly. If not, and you are friendly, trust me, you WON'T get friendzoned, she will hit on you.
You're right to an extent, but so is she, when it comes to giving guys a chance to break out of that friendzone/not be put in there in the first place.
That's an answer that an ungodly uncivilized heathen would say and you're all going to be judged by what you say and do I hope you understand that you may not believe in God but you will before you know the next 20 30 40 years is up I can promise you that you're wrong I've taken human psychology and other classes is part of my engineering classes at a very highly respected engineering class A School. And no person that is a logical thinker thinks the way you do only some deluded teenager with the mind of a cat
“Start showing sexual interest!” Me: “Hey so we’ve been friends for while. And I don’t wanna overstep my boundaries, but I think perhaps we could be something m-“ **Gets Immediately Blocked**
I struggled with women for YEARS - mainly due to overthinking. If you're just average looking realize it's a numbers game and dumb luck for the most part, be forward but be a gentleman, if she's not interested just forget her and move on. If you put too much emphasis in a woman you're not in a relationship with yet that's when friend zone happens because some women can sense you are overinvested and will string you along to take advantage.
I was friend zoned. A few years later she married me. That was 35 years ago. She’s right, make your intentions known. Friend zone sucks. Better to move on.
From guy to guy, if she ever puts you in the friendzone clearly (aka I don't like you like that you're just a friend to me)... raise the bar on her, don't give her easy access to you and go make a new friend... If she aint ride or die with you... she don't deserve you as a friend anyway.
Yeah this actually happened to me 3 days ago. We were hanging out having a good time. We walked on the beach I made her laugh I bought lunch for both of us. We hung out for 8 hours that day talking about shit and having a good time. We've known each other since middle school. I finally asked her out and she paused. Then she explained how of a nice guy I was and how I treated her with kindness. She said she only sees me as a friend. Well that was the last time I hung out with her and talked to her. It definitely still hurts.
@@23mj57yeah, you deserve better. Not putting her down. Just that there's a better match for you. You could also trying changing your approach. Experiment and see what works.
Stop with the bullshit. This never happens in real life, only in your sad fantazy. If feminism is your excuse to never walking up to a woman then perhaps you don't deserve one.
I married my female best friend. In order to do that, I had to have a best friend, date my best friend and then marry that best friend. If you want someone you’re not friends with, this advice works perfectly. If you want to establish a friendship after romance and watch that burn multiple times before succeeding, this advice works perfectly. This is neither bad nor good advice, this is for “sigmas” and red-pillers. I’m neither Sigma nor Simp, so this isn’t advice I can use.
@@jamesrellera6437 My wife and I met in 2004, we were friends, we got married years later. Currently we run multiple businesses together and while marriage as a whole isn’t *easy*, I love her more every day and she loves me. Simple, right? If you want a simple solution, you can’t apply complicated solutions. I told her “I like you, let’s kick it,” she said “aight”. The rest is history. For all the girls that didn’t wanna kick it, no problem: you just made my life easier. I can’t focus on who and what matters most.
@@DaChefBoi Did you make the first move to establish a relationship, or how did you do it? I got friendzoned quite hard, even though I liked the girl in the beginning and vice versa.
@@dietrichrosiers8184 I absolutely made the first move…then again, I always made the first move. There are some women that weren’t on the same page as I was, they just wanted a “really close guy friend” and I’ll be honest and say I don’t have ANY “real close” female friends, never have. So, if you just want a friend, call me when you need me, but I’m taking my talents to South Beach with a fly hunnie that wants more than a “really close guy friend”. If she “friend zoned” you, she’s not worth your romantic attention. Not sure what your views are on having friends you were once romantically interested in, but I’m not for it…so my energy goes away from that situation….keeps things neat and tidy.
@@DaChefBoi That's a very fair assessment. It also avoids the problem of holding on to hope for her to 'change her mind' as time goes on. We could ask ourselves whether they were really friends in the first place.
Really simplifies it, yet it isn't always the case, emotions are a spectrum, how you express those emotions to people or any at all is what determines weither you want more or not. Relationships for any to be relevant, has to have some vulnerability, if neither party invests in being vulnerable with the other party, then there is no relationship, just a transaction.
This is also true but living in the US and UK also drastically increase your chances of constantly ending up in the friendzone, so level up and get out!!!
There is nothing wrong with being a girl's friend first. My gf of 4 years was my friend first. We knew each other by association (we shared a friend) for about 6 months then we actually started getting to know one another for about 2 months then we started dating. The problem with being friends first is some guys are friends for wayyyy too long. If you're close friends with a female for more than like 4-6 months without showing any sexual interest you've fucked up. I know its weird and its hard to make that transition from friends to dating without ruining the friendship, but it's a chance you have to take my friend.
Exactly if you’re interested in her romantically show intent but just don’t come off too strong or too forward show interest don’t be pretend to be her friend if you’re intentions are to date her and be in a relationship with her because it’s different then just being friends vs being in a sexual committed relationship but if you come off as a friend then that’s what you come off as she won’t know or can’t read you’re mind if that’s all you wannabe be to her is just a friend
@@adrianchico8886that seems deceptive though, I'm supposed to hide my true intentions for some time in hopes it improves my chances over time? Nah. We're on a hookup app, and she messaged me first, she's not asking for cooking advice lol. You don't shop for groceries at the DMV and you don't hit on women to make friends. I'm talking to you because I'm physically attracted to you, KNOW THAT and know it's the ONLY reason I'm talking to you, because there ARE other things I'd rather be doing. The only reason I'd make time to spend with someone is I like them. I don't spend time with people I don't like and you're a dumbfuck if you do. Always ask is what you're doing right now serve YOUR goals, and if not STOP DOING IT.
Billie spoke the real truth in who the real simps are. If you want to get out of the friendzoned, just be upfront about what you want in life and from her.
The more I think about the term friendzoned is not because there's something wrong with the guy. It's the girl. The girl thinks of herself too highly. She's too high maintenence. She's overvalued herself. The only things a women should be concerned about a guy is will he treat me good; will he be a good husband and father; and will he be a good provider and stick with through thick and thin? Nothing else should matter. His height, looks, money, and sexual prowess don't matter if he's an a hole. Same goes with women. Men want loyalty and we don't care what you look like or what you do if you treat us like garbage.
But also…. No one is obligated to date anyone.. man or woman. Sometimes someone not being interested in you has nothing to do with YOU. I was hung up on an ex for years, and even though I had offers from other men during that time- I genuinely wasn’t interested because my heart was stuck on someone else. I didn’t believe any guy deserved a girl whose heart wasn’t really in it. Then there’s people who are working on their issues and aren’t ready to date, or people recovering from addictions, trying to get out of debt, trying to get an education, making sure they’re healthy enough for a relationship, etc. So, it’s not always that women or men even think of themselves too highly. People have lots of reasons not to immediately want a relationship with someone. Men and women.
@ClaireAyers I agree with you in part. I wasted years on someone too. Then I realized why am I doing this when I could have been with someone. I'm not a person who wants to be single nor do I want constant friendship because those who swore to always be there left because they wanted someone. People have issues and baggage because of their past. Man and woman aren't meant to be alone and single it's not in their genetics. Infatuation fools you. You don't pick someone with the butterflies and the spark. This fades fast. You choose to be with someone and share their company with what they bring amd add to what you already have.
@@ray_dorian888 yes but initial attraction is often needed for both parties to be deeply interested in the long term. Many young people quit relationships thinking they’re supposed to always have a spark- mature people realize you build longevity and stability over time
@ClaireAyers Yes, there needs to be the initial spark which could be found in anything. But I know girls do friendzone for many reasons. Many of them are tests and games they play to see if you'll bite or are interested and how far you're willing to go. They also use this because you can get more from many guys in the zone than from one committed. For me, you have to have inner beauty and character. A 10 body won't get anyone very far. It's learning and loving every day and growing into something. Friends first and see what happens.
One thing I was never called was the "nice guy". If a women isn't interested in having a relationship WALK AWAY, another girl will be along in a NY minute.
Fun Fact: A lot of girls most of the time when they meet a super nice guy, they don’t wanna lose him as their friend so they soften the rejection by just including the word “friend” or saying “friendship.” For example, when I confessed to my friend that I liked her, she softened her rejection towards me by saying “you are such a good friend, that’s sweet that you like me”
I get where a lot of the sentiment comes from with saying "a friend and nothing more", but being a true friend isn't necessarily something lesser, sometimes it's not "more", it's just different. Good, solid friendships are valuable, too. But I do get it; if you're wanting a romantic/sexual relationship, then anything other than that feels like a failure.
What I would say fellas, if you state your interest to a woman and she friend zones you, stop doing as much and focus your energies elsewhere. Don't hang around, move on. At times you'll get together, at times, no. Show you have options 😊
My boys. Fix your game. Show them you can get shit done. But let them come to you. Don't run to them to show them. Attraction means people come to you. If you're chasing someone, means their attractive force beat yours. Things will naturally gravitate to you without you having to force them. That is an indication you're doing it right.
No one style works for everyone. My Dad got a lot of girls be being very outgoing, and he still is. He will talk to a random women he passes by or meets at the store (it is a miracle he has never gotten the cops called on him lol). He will get a random woman over to the house even in his 40s, not always for sex. Not how I do things, but it worked for him. And moreover, he is much shorter than me. Go figure. Charisma goes a long way.
@@genericdeveloper3966 Your dad sounds like someone who can communicate thoughts and get in sync with other people. Thats a quality. Not the rizz slang bs of new age. Anyway, cheers, learn from the man.
You don't have to become 10 times more attractive to people who actually understand that you are a person who has value they should appreciate in the first place.
If she puts you in the friendzone and she knows you like her more than a friend, she is your enemy, not a friend. Leave her dumbass and completely walk out of her life without hesitation. Do not look back. If you dont value yourself, how do you expect to be valued by anyone else?
That is the nice guy mentality being friends with a woman so she sleeps with you is wrong I tried that on my crush and now I'm friends with him because he's genuinely chill remembering that makes me feel like I should be arrested (14f)
@@Puffco716-vk5uf Lady or Man whatever you are. There are proper ways to form a relationship that is beneficial and fulling for both parties. Starting a relationship over lust doesnt work out for the best in the long run especially for females. I suppose a long fullfiling relationship that leads to marriage and companionship is way worse than having broken relationships and a bunch of kids out of Wedlock and being a single parent. What this "girl" just described is describing low quality females who will be used and abused. Life is better with stability and longevity not the immature mindset of chasing fleeting excitement continuously. If you doubt me take a look at which women marry and settle down with a loving family and who remain single or have a bunch of kids without any commitment and husbands 😂
@@Puffco716-vk5uf Since my last reply was deleted I'll keep it short. What that "child" just described will lead to pain and stress. It will not lead to a fulfilling relationship that will result in a great marriage and companionship. The women who follow that advice will either end up alone and or will be single mothers without any true happiness in their life
Totally valid perspective. Most guys don't become friends with women and do favors for them out of the kindness of their hearts. If a guy tries to hide his true intentions this way, he diminishes his masculine energy, he loses self respect, and it signals to the woman he is low value.
Women have "tried" to give me the friend-zone crap, but they quickly found out that, I'm not the guy that loans them money, gives them "help" or does "favors". 😂😂😂😂
@@RobertMorgan True. A woman who is less attractive will give a man everything. Same with a less attractive man with a woman. I think of an example from Biy Meets World. Whilst Lauren was more attractive, Topanga was willing to give Cory everything.
You know guys , ......relationships doesn't have to be complicated just in this years we making them a lot complicated for some reason ....WOMEN is the answer and that's our fault since 200 years ago but now we paying our fault ....... you can try and get out of friend zone and in my opinion if she is worth it then do it but if not then don't........just keep your eyes open and don't focus only on her because you might find the one which will gonna make you a better human everyday ....but if this woman is the one which is your friend then try as much harder as you can to get out of the friend zone my brother , she is definitely worth it
Billie; Excellent presentation and valuable tips! Yes, creating sexual tension is key. At the same time, I waste no time by asking her out right away, but only when I'm available. Of course, if we are going to a baseball or hockey game, has to be when the team is playing at home! Thank you!
Its because we are attempting to explain something with words that isn't verbal in nature socializing isn't an intellectual thing it has a lot more to do with your vibe and how u come off then what u say or do exactly but the more we try to define it with language the more reduce and constrain it to the bullet points that may or may not apply with the individual your dealing with
A chick that's actually into you, wants to be your friend. She simply not into you, period. Just move on.. I agree with the sexual thing thow. Stop hiding your intentions or interests. It really make no sense.
I’ve just started following her a couple of days ago, and this is the only video of hers that I have to disagree with everything that she was saying about women might have a point at least some of it does but, look for me in general, if I talk to a woman that doesn’t mean I’m trying to date her I like having female friends and I have it a half dozen practical reasons for it, just approve it. One of those reasons is if I’m going on a date with a girl, I would want to look my best possible, and since I have no fashion sense, who better than help me get dressed for a date with a woman, then another woman simple, practical legitimate. Another quick one, sometimes women you don’t make any sense to us guys you really don’t you might think you do but you don’t so in order to translate what you said it helps to have a female friend who can literally help you do that. However, there is a lot of what she said here that is wrong and I hate to say it but a lot of it. Women will Friendzone guys I’ve seen it I have two college degrees I’m not even kidding. I’ve been up and down the entire eastern seaboard of the United States, three different high schools I have seen and interacted with women from literally all over. And I can tell you that women will Friendzone men whether they show interest or not women will Friendzone men no matter if the guy tries to pursue her or not. The guy can place himself on the pedestal, and if the woman is not attracted to him, and or doesn’t wanna date him for whatever reason, she will call that guy, a snob or a jack ass. I’ve seen it over and over and over again. So listening to her advice guys. In this one particular case I’m gonna have to say don’t do it because the bottom line at the end of the day from everything that I’ve seen based off all my experience, on this experience of all the friends that I’ve ever had both men and women, I can tell you one thing. Women will Friendzone you if they don’t find you attractive in terms of physical looks but they find you attractive in terms of personality. However, they will also Friendzone you and keep you on the hook giving you just enough so that you don’t actually go out and find a real girlfriend on your own but you just stay there like a heart sick puppy if they think that you could be useful to them in someway. So yes, maybe it’s possible what you see might make you more attractive to certain women but at the end of the day if they’re gonna Friendzone you, they’re gonna Friendzone you. And that’s it in fact, for something as simple as just going up and asking for a woman’s phone number nowadays the only difference between her thinking you’re flirting and giving you her phone number and her calling the cops and Avenue arrested for sexual harassment is whether she finds you attractive or not, literally all regular situation like that, that’s it.
So the definition of a crazy woman is a woman that tells you to prioritize yourself and to set boundaries? If she is a "crazy" woman, then what is a good woman, incel? You males don't know what you want and make no sense
Being her friend is important as you want your would be girl friend to see you as someone she can trust and feel safe around, even better if you can make her feel special but flirting is important too witch is probably the main reason people get friend zoned. You need to be viewed as someone that's masculine, one way to do that is to take the lead on everything but without being controlling.
PS the whole friend zone thing usually means she's afraid of losing you but if you kind of make it apparent like walk away for instance and then she does lose you things change for her real quick
No mate a lot of the time it's because she's being smashed by aguy who's not emotionally available (because she's just a booty call) and thinks she can win him over with time. In the meantime she needs someone for emotional support so she will pretend to another guy that she's romantically interested but ''not ready yet''. It's because she is narcissistic and thinks she can compartmentalise people as if they are objects.
When they say they don't wanna lose my friendship, that's exactly when they do lose me...forever! Sorry, I only ever wanna be friends with girls I'm not attracted with , and I never make an active effort to meet those kind of girls either way xP but she's right, I used to make that mistake a lot. Don't be "the nice guy", don't be afraid to be yourself!
Nah if you just want to be friends I'm not looking for friends, I'm only "friends" with you because I want to date you and if you don't want to date I have no reason to keep talking to you. I've gotten the line"I think I'd be too much for you" WAY more...explain that one
As a realist I see it as I'm not going to waste my time on a friendship that's going to hurt me...I like you why would I want to stick around and watch you date other men?. How is it manipulative if I didn't manipulate you to do anything? It's your decision to not date me just like its my decision not to continue the friendship
@@TyrTheConquerorThis. Bro I'm sick of being told that if I'm nice to a woman I want to have sex with, I'm being manipulative. How does that make sense? I can't just be nice because I'm a nice person? As if desiring sex just makes me inherently bad LMAO a man is not a man if he isn't constantly craving sex.
@@kyleemeg2171never said being nice he said he wouldn't be friends if the intent of the other person was not to date because his intenet was not platonic friendship. You can be nice and cordial to people without becoming a part of their lives too. You took what he said and turned it I to something completely different. You just Cathy Newmaned this commenter.
@@guitarman0365 nah. If you’re only being nice to women in hopes that they sleep with you or date you…. That’s not being nice, that’s being manipulative. I said what I said, and it still stands. You should be able to be friends with someone without expecting more from that relationship. It’s called being JUST FRIENDS
My observation: Women when dating: "I want someone that is challenging. Not ALWAYS there for me. I dont want a FRIEND. I dont want him to be too nice" in Marriage: suddenly all the above goes away. She always wants you to be with her all the time whenever she needs him. She wants you to be nice. Boyfriend material vs Husband material are 2 different things... and that make things complicated 😢
No one in the “friend-zone” is actually a friend. Real friends actually genuinely love and care about each other like family. If someone calls you their friend but they wanna drop you or put you off as soon as it’s convenient for them, they were never your friend to begin with.
So you say the solution is to take the initiative and show that I desire her... But isn't that exactly why she answers with "You're such a great guy, but I don't wanna lose our friendship". I mean, why would she even say that if I don't take the initiative and show my interest? Am I crazy or does this make no fking sense at all
It makes perfect sense actually. What she’s saying is she doesn’t want to ruin the attention and favors she’s getting from you by having to offer you more. That’s all she’s saying. Ghost and walk away my man.
@@robertfootball1 are we talking about the same thing? You're mixing up the girl who posted the video with the hypothetical girl one is trying to date. Here it is dumbed down for you: Me interested in girl A. Me TOOK INITIATIVE. Me asked for a date. Girl A said be friends. Girl in video says to me: TAKE INITIATIVE. Me says: I just did, that why girl A said be friends. She didn't just randomly say it, did she? It was an answer to something, it was an answer to ME TAKING INITIATIVE, THEN STOP TELLING ME TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE
I have a very platonic relationship with this girl. I used to like her a lot and stuff but now I just prefer having her as a friend. She likes the idea of us being friends. I prefer being friends. I know this has nothing to do with friendzone or anything but guys sometimes it’s good to have a girl as a friend. 👏
Setting boundaries and prioritizing yourself is "toxic advice"? Then what is the "healthy" advice, more exactly??💀💀 Men☕️ don't make any sense and don't know what they want
Only girl I was ever friendzoned by was a friend before I was out of a relationship. Wasn't till after the marriage I was in dissolved I grew feelings for her. Sometimes the answer is just no.
I've friendzoned men, the reason is because I straight up have just not been interested in them like that/haven't been interested in dating anyone. And just only saw them as friends, and that's it. No amount of these weird "rules" had anything to do with why I did it. I have never shown interest in any of said male friends either. I'm a woman and these are all just a bunch of heavily generalized, strange, rules. It's often not that deep. Sometimes she's just not into you, it's often for the same variety of reasons you may not be into someone else. Sometimes you just don't feel anything romantic or s*xual for them. Though sometimes friendzoning happens (regardless of gender) to let someone down nicely, especially if they're being creepy (yes women can be creeps too) and the person may be worried of how any other kind of letting down would make them react. I have also been friendzoned. It can suck, but it's not the end of the world. Everyone experiences rejection. It's just a part of life.
You still use men in the friendzone, for support or protection. Don't be hypocritical. Iflooks are not as important for women, there would be no men in a friendzone.
The irony here fellas is that by doing what she says, you're changing for women and not yourself. If you truly want to "change" or become a "better man for women," stop simping over women and go out and live. Surive a challenge. Do something that forces you to adapt. Best of luck. PS I am not telling anyone what to do. I just find it sad that many walk into her trap;)
Good to know I was always a friend to many beautiful women in my circle of trust when they were vulnerable Taking advantage of that vulnerability was not on my menu My pair are doing fine❤
I agree with the saying that goes, 'don't follow dating and flirting advices from other women if you want to date women', but in this case I will say that Billie gives great advice because of the fact that she's traditional and got redpilled so she'll tell you the truth, although it's hard to swallow.
A long time ago someone said that a woman generally knows within the first five minutes whether she would ever consider sleeping with a guy. That is how long you have to impress her upon first meeting her. From that point on you either confirm her original appraisal or you disqualify yourself by one means or another. Pretty sound advice if that is what you are looking for. If you are seeking a longer term relationship, however.. being friends is of the utmost importance. Hard to live with someone you can't stand.
It's five seconds for me and most men. I can't remember the last time I saw a woman and thought I want that, I need that. Nope, she's gotta make me want it.
Actually scratch that, it's faster than five seconds, I know the instant. And if I'm talking to her, I like her, there's no other reason to talk to her, unless she's a waitress or staff.
@@RobertMorgan Heh in today's 'dating market' most of em are not worth the five minutes truthfully. It is rare to find one worth dating and even more rare to find one that is wife material. It's all about 'me me me' in today's me-centric society where instant gratification rules and most people's patience is shorter lived than a fruit fly.
Best of luck to you all in trying to find love. But one thing I would say. Don't spend all your time trying to find love. Do what you need to do for yourself and to take care of yourself. Focus on your job and the real friends that you do have. That way if you don't find love. At least you have your own life.
Interesting to hear you're perspective. As a man, we aren't weaseling in. We're genuinely trying to form a relationship. "Growing a pair" is super accurate though. Not being direct is due to lack of self esteem. We're hoping you will see like us because "we're always there". But I guess that is just men projecting what they want onto women. They don't seem to lack for support like we do. So it's just not as valuable to them.
There is this mentality of you of being confident, knowing what you want, showing interest up front, don’t always be there, ect. ect. All this advice is coming from people dating and having fun, playing the emotional games. I just stopped caring. I just treat others like human beings, even the woman in my life, even the woman I find attractive. If I notice an opportunity worth fighting for then I’ll give it a shot. The thing is, you think you can just “know” someone in a few months. I don’t need to date someone to get to know them. I pay attention to how they act with other people. As for “Don’t always be available.” I mean, it depends on the motivation. You say, “Oh, being available makes you seem easy.” Wait until marriage when you are expected to be reliable. Life is hard, I think a partner who is will to help endure some of the har parts of life is a good thing. I have talked to girls who speak like this. They talk about their partners on how they are great guys and are funny. Those relationships all ended before college was over. The relationships that are still going are between people I know value their now spouses for being strong morally sound people.
What she says is on-point...especially when the guy is an 8 or higher. Otherwise, be prepared to take some rejection from time to time. But continue to work on yourself
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lmfao
😂😂😂😂
The ultimate friend zone. 😂
@@matthewzumbo9868 You think he's making a joke.
No you aren’t.
Don’t accept the friend zone fellas. Don’t think you can wait her out. Make your intentions clear to her. If she isn’t on board, you take your time and attention elsewhere.
@@mr.metamovies2419 doesn’t matter if none of the ladies ever want to be more than just a friend to you. Gotta switch it up.
@@mr.metamovies2419if you let a girl friend zone you it makes you a pussy in my eyes just don’t speak to her again
Thank you, I agree so much. If a woman rejects you, please just move the f**k on. Don't murder her, don't r**e her, don't assauIt her. There are millions of other fish in the sea.
We're not required to give you affection just because you took us out to eat or gave us flowers. We are human beings, not booties for rent. So many men are like the ones in this comment section; they only see women as s** vending machines. When you try to start out as friends and get to know them better before jumping into a relationship, they get mad and accuse you of "friend zoning" them... whatever that is. Men are terrifying.
@@bellebonebag8096 to the contrary, I will conduct myself in a way that will make you rethink letting me go. I will up my game, my confidence, my style, and my success.
I had an ex girlfriend of mine nearly trip an old lady trying to get to me, just 6 months after she got married to some simp who got her pregnant. Many years ago we were together, and she seemed to forget about her new husband in that moment. Sometimes the grass isn’t greener
No one cares if you "glow up" if they weren't attracted to you before. That's like putting glitter on a turd @@massimo7219
F all those rules. Relationships should not be so complicated.
100% Why the f is everything so complicated now? I mean...I never understood dating, but now? I should just fly to space at this point.
I don't know... Maybe it's because we let women define the "rules".
I think that is why it is so complicated, nothing make sense in their brains.
People just need to be sincere and mentally healthy, that's it
Think about it. It's a business and a market now, and people are making money 💰 from it especially on TH-cam.
Common Bayern fan W
Falling in love with someone should never be something this complicated. If you like them, you shouldn't act like a prize in order to attract them
I like pie! :) and as a girl dating kinda confusing idk what's going on I'll just kinda roll with what ever unless someone asks me out if I like them like that then it's a sure thing if not then I'll say I'm not in a good place for dat but there an awesome person!
@@hannahmcclellan1825 stop playing dumb and typing like a 10 year old. "Im not in a good place for that right now" still gives hope and puts many desperate men in friendzone.
although they are desperate and dumb for not cutting you off once you say that, you are still a terrible human being for doing that instead of making your intentions clear that you dont want them
@@hannahmcclellan1825which country r u in? I like your no-nonsense approach lol
@@andrejszasz2816 USA 🙃 and thank you but why do you want to know my country?
Some of y'all men are just mad because a woman doesn't want to give up her body to a man so y'all would used friend zoned.
Guys, I struggled until my 28 year of age with women. Here is a quick resume instead of listening to her because you might take it the wrong way :
- Be a challenge
- Stop being "nice"
- Don't be too available
- Tease her with humor, be playful
- Never ever put her on a pedestal
- Your compliments should rather be on her personality than her physical appearance.
- Don't show any emotional reaction to whatever she says. If you don't like something, tell her in a calm manner. For example : Anytime a woman says that I'm nice I go for a saying like : "I have my moments, yes." I know it's sound stupid but it works.
- If you like a girl that has a boyfriend and she seems to like you, stop whatever you're building in your mind. She's looking for a replacement and she'll do the same to you.
- There isn't the "one". Just women. Take your chances. If you get rejected, you win. If you get her you win.
Get your mindset right then go talk to women. Peace.
Last thing : "Never showed any sexual interest", don't do that unless she seems interested in you, you'll just scare her away. Time limit to know if she likes you : first interaction to 2 months if you're patient, longer than that, forget it and move on.
This girl sounds like she just read "Rational Male" and decided to spout it back.
Spot on.
If I need to play those kinds of games with a woman, I'm not interested in her. That means that she is a game player and needs to grow up.
@@markwillhite9200 exactly hahah there are THOUSANDS of available single women out there, to pedestal just ONE and do all this random shit is silly, the second she doesn't find you attractive, just move on. Complete waste of time.
Sounds like a lot of unnecessary work why not just keep money buy one of those sex dolls or something why waste it on a woman😂 You don't need them and you could get everything you need without them just seems illogical to put so much stress and effort into something so useless and very little application
If you leave me in the friends zone, you gon catch me in your friends phone.
Lol, for real
Clever 😏👍
That's even IF she wants you either. Lmaoooo.
This man is legend
I know you're just joking around but that doesn't work. They communicate with each other and actually prevent guys from getting closer that way.
Like when you go to a bar and talk to a female and her friend suddenly pulls her away? That's how they do it. And that's even if she's really interested in you.
This is such BS
She friendzoned you because she is not physically attracted to you
Remember, Chad can:
Act as a friend
Put her on a pedestal
Take no lead
Create no tension
Literally do NOTHING
And she WILL still sleep with him
Which explains why many women have such high body counts with non-relationship peers.
So was talking about relationship. Not sleeping with her.
Uhh... This is why people are so screwed up about relationships now. If i can't be your friend why the hell would i want a relationship with you?
Also, just because I want sex from you has nothing to do with friendship or a relationship.
That might develop over time, but is not my goal to start with.
I'd rather become friends with people in fucking than fuck my friends, lol.
Exactly and never mind if you're someone like me that's more introverted there's no way I could want to be in a relationship with a girl before I'm friends with her first and let's ignore that one of the best foundations to build a relationship on is a pre-existing friendship
Because lust is approved.
Because with a friend you can't have intimate relationship, but with partner you can.
@@Aeonragnarok so, you're not friends with your partner? Seems like a pretty empty relationship.
If it's true that the easier you are to get, the less value you have, then why do women get angry when someone says that having a high body count is unattractive?
They hate the truth
Women love double standards
Because it means that being easier to get leads to higher body count? Idk please explain-
@@9a_23_tyrantqiu7 Yeah if you sleep with 30 dudes, it means it was really easy for 30 people to sleep with you.
Because women are indoctrinated to believe that it isn’t, but at the same time they’re indoctrinated to believe that it’s not good in men.
World class third way feminism entered the chat and the world went to hell with it.
I was friendzoned by a girl , I liked for years. One day, I had enough, I cut off contact, started ignoring her and a year later, she started throwing hints and tried flirting with me. I was done with her at that point, tho!
Girls just be like that.
Well done Bro
@@YaardennchuukNo, don't generalize.
A woman is not entitled to give a man her body if she doesn't want too. Friend zoned is a myth when men liked to used that when they can't get what they want from a woman.
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She has such great advice, she must have dated a ton of women to learn so much about em.
Or maybe she is a woman herself. Mind blowing i know
@@NorthernSpartan Women don't know how to attract women. They give terrible advice. It is more than proven that women don't know what they want themselves. There's even solid studies on that.
They say they're attracted to something but then their pussy dries up when that happens. And the opposite is true aswell.
Is she wrong tho? If you treat her like a celebrity she will treat you like a fan. that's a fact.
There's a simple solution, don't chase self important, entitled brats. I know it's hard to find a good woman, but she might as well name her nonsense "how to attempt to turn a hooker to a housewife"
@@NorthernSpartan is she wrong? Lol, this like giving advice to a 5 ft 5 kid on how to make the nba. “Just be confident and practice”. Women literally have zero clue or empathy of the thousands of men they dismiss as invisible, to stare at their inflated feeds of celebrities and top 1%
I may be wrong and there will be exceptions to what I am about to say, but most relationships that start with friendship are usually the ones that last a lifetime. The reason for that is you didn't just jump right in with someone based off of their looks. As friends, you start to hangout, you know what each other likes, you vibe together. So even when you become lovers, the friendship remains and it becomes a beautiful relationship where you know the person inside and out.
This is absolutely true and why you can throw out any or all advice given by any female about how to get them. I met my wife as a friend, had no expectations of it proceeded to anything else. Then it just blossomed into romance. Had zero control over it doing so, did absolutely nothing to “make her like me”, or “win her over”, it just happened. If you start out as friends first you can literally break every romantic rule women set up for men which are usually illogical, contradictory, or even an impossible standard to live up to.
@@joshuaalexander3248 Wow your story sounds so beautiful. I wish you and your wife all the happiness in the world!
Yeah, that should be common logic. The problem is that it isn't.
@@joshuaalexander3248 I see what you’re saying, but the thing is that worked because you were not trying to pursue her constantly and you was doing your thing
@@jasencadet12
But then, do people in the friend zone pursue someone constantly anyway? If you do that, you aren't really friends.
We’ve heard millions of times that guys only want one thing, and we don’t take the time to get to know women. So we do the right thing - take it slow, treat you as a human being, and wait for the right opportunity to express romantic interest - then get friend-zoned because we didn’t act fast enough. Not in a year or a month - it happens in a matter of DAYS. Can’t even take you on a second or third date without getting this nonsense.
It really depends on the type of woman you're after. A lot of the women I know usually befriend a man before deciding whether to date or not. I don't think her rules are all that universal.
Why are we dating if not for intimacy? The point is sex and kids, nothing else.
People are bad at doing things for the proper reasons.
100% agree. You nailed it.
@@icecreamcake6238 Agreed.
I’m barely holding my laughter at your bitterness. Relax, my dude. There’s a 99% chance that you weren’t rejected because you “treated her like a human being”, or “took it slow”, or “were a nice guy”, or whatever bullshitty reason you came up with to convince yourself that she was a horrible person who didn’t choose you despite being “obliged” to. There is a ton of other reasons why people (not just women, but men as well) reject their potential partners - rejected person’s bad breath, weird/evil behavior, boring personality, different lifestyle/interests, ugly face, excessive weight, small d or t’s… well, you name it; sometimes people are in love with someone else, or maybe they just don’t want any relationships (like I do), sometimes you’re just “not their type”, or they don’t feel something more deep than just attraction to you. “Being nice” is in the end of that list, if it is there at all.
But yeah, who cares! Just forget all that and continue to believe that simply pretending to be a nice person obliges every woman on that planet to date you despite all these possible reasons not to, or your fragile ego will be broken :D
Be honest. once you're in the friend zone, she will always see you as a friend and nothing more . Dump your female friend and go on to another woman.
"Dumb your female friend"
Why dumb a friend? You really hate women that much?
Or you hate friendships?
The only way to get out of the friendzone is to gather the courage. Say your truth and if she doesnt like it, then move on. Female friends are high maintenance and most of them are really one sided. Women don't cherish their male friends as much as their male friends cherish them. It gives them power and they love that.
The truth is I used very poor judgment when the woman I met put me in the friend zone. I met the woman on an online dating site . Her name was Lisa, and she lived 18 blocks from my house. After our first date, she told me she liked me as a friend. She was so attractive that I kept seeing her, hoping to win her over . Five years later, we were still only friends. It was my fault that I wasted five years of my life chasing her. Don't be like me , please don't be a simp.
I learned my lesson. I was hoping that by writing down my story , other men would see themselves and wake up to this fact :the woman you are chasing after will never see you as anything more than a friend. I know I should have known better, but over the years, I have learned that movies and television are works of fiction. When a woman tells you she doesn't like you " that way," believe her.
@@martinbrewi7323Not matter,,Treat her goodly, She will regret after merrige.
This right here is a good example of the kind of woman you want to avoid.
Yes!
guys shouldnt wonder about this happening.
i can tell from my experience that they would always come up without me sending any signal, trying to get my attention and everything. so i dont know what else to do as treading them like a friend
But didn't she say what is actually in your advantage? She literally gave anti simping advice.
To set boundaries and to prioritize yourself.
If you want to "avoid this type of woman" , then what fucking type of woman do you want, fatherless incel?
@@mr.metamovies2419why? Did you even watch her video?
Why do I wanna avoid a woman that tells me to set boundaries and to prioritize myself?
Are you traumatized? Fatherless?
I feel like women like to put too much emphasis on nebulous things like: "the vibe, the energy, the ick or the chemistry" You can't explain these well to men. We generally speaking want more tangible things like: is she attractive, good in bed, or just doesn't have a horrible personality. We can't afford to be super picky, so we'll have a hard time understanding what exactly do women want especially as this is not necessarily the same for every woman. There is no magic formula or cheatcode to the female brain. The best general advice one could give is: take care of how you look and dress, build some confidence, take the initiative, don't be distraught by rejection and most importantly: have integrity. That is it gents. Let's stop pretending that these dating influencers have all the answers to your issues and can tell you why women don't want you without knowing anything about you.
Well said!
I shortened it for you: just be chad
Don't forget astrology or as men call it "racism for liberal white women".
nebulos
I was ignorant about the friendzoned too.
I did believed being FRIENDZONED means Real friends "
Not long time ago I did learn
Keep you as an orbiter/backup plan.
A singelmom who friendzoned me 11 years ago suddenly believed we could takes our friendship to the next level.
Little did She know I Friendzoned her back 11 years ago "
Exactly why I don’t care about being single I’d rather be single then have to deal with these mind games women pull, why do women have to complicate everything, I said a long time ago I’m good with all that, I’ve been happier ever since lol
Same for me and what she's talkin about if you're more introverted your mind just don't work like that it's hard enough to make friends
Let alone developing a friendship with the girl before you can even think about asking her out
True, but it’s also important to note that kissing the ground someone walks on can create a lot of pressure on that person to reciprocate. Not only a turnoff, but honestly anxiety inducing.
I always tell people that I express interest in that "I don't kiss your feet and I don't kiss your ass." They don't always like that but I agree with you.
"I would just never want to lose your friendship." You just did, sweetypants.
Every guy has sexual interest in a woman. They just don't see it. At this point, I wonder if the best strategy is to treat them like crap, or at least like you have no interest and can live without them. Women seem to desire what they can't get.
Not what they can't get, they like a challenge
I learned that long ago. Treat a woman well and she loses interest. Treat them like crap and they beg at your feet. It's an Isaiah 5:20 thing.
nooo, see it has nothing to do with showing intentions or not, pay attention to the second point this woman stated, "being easy make you look less valuable in her eyes", many nice guys who take the friendship route already think the woman they re courting is the best, the queen, an oasis in a desert, a pink diamond and a lot of qualities she probably doesnt even has, and at the same time the guys treat themselves as worthless, women arent dumb and they can know if you re into the them since the first second they meet you.
I have tried this, and the results are disgusting. I tried it for about a week or two, in one of my classes. I had the girls after me like mfs. Then, I let out my true self, because I felt uncomfortable with all the attention. Girls are disgusting, in that way. As soon as you are YOU, they don't like it. They only want dangerous abusive narcissistic jerks. Period.
Lots of women are attracted by guys that kind of treat them like shit.
The silver lining is, these women are only good for sex and that's it. So, if you want more than that, you're not missing out on much.
“Start showing sexual interest! Grow a pair and take initiative!”
*Well I’m in prison now, so thanks for that.*
I can't stop laughing. It's all about how you LOOK. If you aren't handsome, you can try to "hit on her", you'll get labeled as a "creep". If you are not hitting on her, and try to be "friends", sure, she'll friendzone you.
Now, if you are handsome and you "hit on her", great, she'll accept gladly. If not, and you are friendly, trust me, you WON'T get friendzoned, she will hit on you.
Your forgetting you need to be 6 ft w/ millions of dollars and have a body like a WWE wrestler
You're right to an extent, but so is she, when it comes to giving guys a chance to break out of that friendzone/not be put in there in the first place.
@@immune18 Correct. Most men will be friend zoned 99.999999% of the time. The key is do not let her put you there, just bounce. You will never et out.
That's an answer that an ungodly uncivilized heathen would say and you're all going to be judged by what you say and do I hope you understand that you may not believe in God but you will before you know the next 20 30 40 years is up I can promise you that you're wrong I've taken human psychology and other classes is part of my engineering classes at a very highly respected engineering class A School. And no person that is a logical thinker thinks the way you do only some deluded teenager with the mind of a cat
This is the reality we live in
1. if you attractive and rich, rules do not apply.
2. if you are not rule one, good luck.
Or just attractive. Many women lust after broke men. Even gold diggers will have real lust. It's strange. Always remain cautious, boys.
She speaks fluent womanese, also a great interpreter
Right, it’s impossible advice from a woman’s perspective. Thanks for the lecture lady.
Womanese, lol good one. She's betraying women to get views. She's as bad as all of them
@@jamesbroucek8186 she ain't betraying no one, she's being a professional creating good content.
@@spiderwebbmarketing you're just a simp
@@jamesbroucek8186he is "bad" for telling you to put boundaries and to priorize yourself?
Is she is a "bad" woman, then whats a "good" woman?
“When engaging the enemy know your enemy” -art of war
Take initiative. That's how you end up in jail
exactly its harassment if you are not attractive
All of this only works if she is interested you in the first place. Shoot your shot and move on.
Bro do you even lawyer?
‘Murica
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This works both ways and remember that guys never get compliments.
“Start showing sexual interest!”
Me: “Hey so we’ve been friends for while. And I don’t wanna overstep my boundaries, but I think perhaps we could be something m-“
**Gets Immediately Blocked**
I struggled with women for YEARS - mainly due to overthinking. If you're just average looking realize it's a numbers game and dumb luck for the most part, be forward but be a gentleman, if she's not interested just forget her and move on. If you put too much emphasis in a woman you're not in a relationship with yet that's when friend zone happens because some women can sense you are overinvested and will string you along to take advantage.
No labels, if you're average/above average/ below average, it applies to everyone.
Leave it women only want top 10%
I was friend zoned. A few years later she married me. That was 35 years ago. She’s right, make your intentions known. Friend zone sucks. Better to move on.
A few years is years more chance than most women give.
From guy to guy, if she ever puts you in the friendzone clearly (aka I don't like you like that you're just a friend to me)... raise the bar on her, don't give her easy access to you and go make a new friend... If she aint ride or die with you... she don't deserve you as a friend anyway.
Yeah this actually happened to me 3 days ago. We were hanging out having a good time. We walked on the beach I made her laugh I bought lunch for both of us. We hung out for 8 hours that day talking about shit and having a good time. We've known each other since middle school. I finally asked her out and she paused. Then she explained how of a nice guy I was and how I treated her with kindness. She said she only sees me as a friend. Well that was the last time I hung out with her and talked to her. It definitely still hurts.
@@23mj57 She missed out bro, put her down from that pedestal she aint worth it. You'll find better.
@@23mj57yeah, you deserve better. Not putting her down. Just that there's a better match for you. You could also trying changing your approach. Experiment and see what works.
@@23mj57 Spending 8 hours together is apparently romance-free, if the man is paying. She used you for a free meal.
Or it could be that woman are generally unapporachable anymore with the feminism and screaming harassment when a guy barely glances as hes walking by
Stop with the bullshit. This never happens in real life, only in your sad fantazy. If feminism is your excuse to never walking up to a woman then perhaps you don't deserve one.
Here’s the short to a youtube short. “Don’t have female friends”
Or have female friends because you want to BE friends with us, not because you wanna fuck us.
I mean, you can have friends who are women. Just dont be a womans friend solely to weasel in and get with her.
Sheesh! Sexist much?
Already been doing that for 16 years 💪😎🤏
Or, don't have attractive female friends (though ugly ones are usually better in bed).
I married my female best friend. In order to do that, I had to have a best friend, date my best friend and then marry that best friend. If you want someone you’re not friends with, this advice works perfectly. If you want to establish a friendship after romance and watch that burn multiple times before succeeding, this advice works perfectly.
This is neither bad nor good advice, this is for “sigmas” and red-pillers. I’m neither Sigma nor Simp, so this isn’t advice I can use.
Am interested to know more about your relationship dynamic
@@jamesrellera6437 My wife and I met in 2004, we were friends, we got married years later.
Currently we run multiple businesses together and while marriage as a whole isn’t *easy*, I love her more every day and she loves me.
Simple, right? If you want a simple solution, you can’t apply complicated solutions. I told her “I like you, let’s kick it,” she said “aight”. The rest is history.
For all the girls that didn’t wanna kick it, no problem: you just made my life easier. I can’t focus on who and what matters most.
@@DaChefBoi Did you make the first move to establish a relationship, or how did you do it? I got friendzoned quite hard, even though I liked the girl in the beginning and vice versa.
@@dietrichrosiers8184 I absolutely made the first move…then again, I always made the first move.
There are some women that weren’t on the same page as I was, they just wanted a “really close guy friend” and I’ll be honest and say I don’t have ANY “real close” female friends, never have. So, if you just want a friend, call me when you need me, but I’m taking my talents to South Beach with a fly hunnie that wants more than a “really close guy friend”.
If she “friend zoned” you, she’s not worth your romantic attention. Not sure what your views are on having friends you were once romantically interested in, but I’m not for it…so my energy goes away from that situation….keeps things neat and tidy.
@@DaChefBoi That's a very fair assessment. It also avoids the problem of holding on to hope for her to 'change her mind' as time goes on. We could ask ourselves whether they were really friends in the first place.
Attraction is not negotiable, is not a choice, doesn’t matter if you are her friend, if she likes you, she will make things happen, if not, not 🤷🏿♂️
Really simplifies it, yet it isn't always the case, emotions are a spectrum, how you express those emotions to people or any at all is what determines weither you want more or not.
Relationships for any to be relevant, has to have some vulnerability, if neither party invests in being vulnerable with the other party, then there is no relationship, just a transaction.
This is also true but living in the US and UK also drastically increase your chances of constantly ending up in the friendzone, so level up and get out!!!
There is nothing wrong with being a girl's friend first. My gf of 4 years was my friend first. We knew each other by association (we shared a friend) for about 6 months then we actually started getting to know one another for about 2 months then we started dating. The problem with being friends first is some guys are friends for wayyyy too long. If you're close friends with a female for more than like 4-6 months without showing any sexual interest you've fucked up. I know its weird and its hard to make that transition from friends to dating without ruining the friendship, but it's a chance you have to take my friend.
Exactly if you’re interested in her romantically show intent but just don’t come off too strong or too forward show interest don’t be pretend to be her friend if you’re intentions are to date her and be in a relationship with her because it’s different then just being friends vs being in a sexual committed relationship but if you come off as a friend then that’s what you come off as she won’t know or can’t read you’re mind if that’s all you wannabe be to her is just a friend
@Adrian Chico but women expect us men to read their mind though.
That's completely different, if she really was your friend first.
Meanwhile the advice is if she's not showing she's into you in the first 4-6 MINUTES, move on.
@@adrianchico8886that seems deceptive though, I'm supposed to hide my true intentions for some time in hopes it improves my chances over time? Nah.
We're on a hookup app, and she messaged me first, she's not asking for cooking advice lol.
You don't shop for groceries at the DMV and you don't hit on women to make friends.
I'm talking to you because I'm physically attracted to you, KNOW THAT and know it's the ONLY reason I'm talking to you, because there ARE other things I'd rather be doing.
The only reason I'd make time to spend with someone is I like them. I don't spend time with people I don't like and you're a dumbfuck if you do.
Always ask is what you're doing right now serve YOUR goals, and if not STOP DOING IT.
Billie spoke the real truth in who the real simps are. If you want to get out of the friendzoned, just be upfront about what you want in life and from her.
The more I think about the term friendzoned is not because there's something wrong with the guy. It's the girl. The girl thinks of herself too highly. She's too high maintenence. She's overvalued herself. The only things a women should be concerned about a guy is will he treat me good; will he be a good husband and father; and will he be a good provider and stick with through thick and thin? Nothing else should matter. His height, looks, money, and sexual prowess don't matter if he's an a hole. Same goes with women. Men want loyalty and we don't care what you look like or what you do if you treat us like garbage.
But also…. No one is obligated to date anyone.. man or woman. Sometimes someone not being interested in you has nothing to do with YOU.
I was hung up on an ex for years, and even though I had offers from other men during that time- I genuinely wasn’t interested because my heart was stuck on someone else. I didn’t believe any guy deserved a girl whose heart wasn’t really in it. Then there’s people who are working on their issues and aren’t ready to date, or people recovering from addictions, trying to get out of debt, trying to get an education, making sure they’re healthy enough for a relationship, etc.
So, it’s not always that women or men even think of themselves too highly. People have lots of reasons not to immediately want a relationship with someone. Men and women.
@ClaireAyers I agree with you in part. I wasted years on someone too. Then I realized why am I doing this when I could have been with someone. I'm not a person who wants to be single nor do I want constant friendship because those who swore to always be there left because they wanted someone. People have issues and baggage because of their past. Man and woman aren't meant to be alone and single it's not in their genetics. Infatuation fools you. You don't pick someone with the butterflies and the spark. This fades fast. You choose to be with someone and share their company with what they bring amd add to what you already have.
@@ray_dorian888 yes but initial attraction is often needed for both parties to be deeply interested in the long term. Many young people quit relationships thinking they’re supposed to always have a spark- mature people realize you build longevity and stability over time
@ClaireAyers Yes, there needs to be the initial spark which could be found in anything. But I know girls do friendzone for many reasons. Many of them are tests and games they play to see if you'll bite or are interested and how far you're willing to go. They also use this because you can get more from many guys in the zone than from one committed. For me, you have to have inner beauty and character. A 10 body won't get anyone very far. It's learning and loving every day and growing into something. Friends first and see what happens.
Communication and time spent are mandatory.
Exactly. Accept the risk of rejection and make your intentions known from the start. Fortune favours the bold
Which is why shyness in men is a mental illness.
One thing I was never called was the "nice guy". If a women isn't interested in having a relationship WALK AWAY, another girl will be along in a NY minute.
Fun Fact: A lot of girls most of the time when they meet a super nice guy, they don’t wanna lose him as their friend so they soften the rejection by just including the word “friend” or saying “friendship.”
For example, when I confessed to my friend that I liked her, she softened her rejection towards me by saying “you are such a good friend, that’s sweet that you like me”
Don't confess to friends. You're just fueling their ego. Only be friends with those you don't find attractive.
Here it is broken down in a sentence or two. If you like her/find her attractive, don’t be her friend. Don’t be friends with women.
Be friends with women, but only the ones you want NOTHING from.
I get where a lot of the sentiment comes from with saying "a friend and nothing more", but being a true friend isn't necessarily something lesser, sometimes it's not "more", it's just different. Good, solid friendships are valuable, too.
But I do get it; if you're wanting a romantic/sexual relationship, then anything other than that feels like a failure.
Women are so complicated but yet again it’s my fault
Because society told men to not listen
What I would say fellas, if you state your interest to a woman and she friend zones you, stop doing as much and focus your energies elsewhere. Don't hang around, move on. At times you'll get together, at times, no. Show you have options 😊
My boys. Fix your game. Show them you can get shit done. But let them come to you. Don't run to them to show them. Attraction means people come to you. If you're chasing someone, means their attractive force beat yours. Things will naturally gravitate to you without you having to force them. That is an indication you're doing it right.
No one style works for everyone. My Dad got a lot of girls be being very outgoing, and he still is. He will talk to a random women he passes by or meets at the store (it is a miracle he has never gotten the cops called on him lol).
He will get a random woman over to the house even in his 40s, not always for sex. Not how I do things, but it worked for him.
And moreover, he is much shorter than me. Go figure. Charisma goes a long way.
@@genericdeveloper3966 Your dad sounds like someone who can communicate thoughts and get in sync with other people. Thats a quality.
Not the rizz slang bs of new age.
Anyway, cheers, learn from the man.
This is literally what SHE said in the video.
But for some reason she gets hate from saying this, but you get praise??
@@Asiwnskit's great advice for men, but her advice to women is terrible and part of what's keeping things so f-ed up.
@@RobertMorgan Nah. Women make the best out of men if they do their job. The problem is we live in an age of chaos.
You don't have to become 10 times more attractive to people who actually understand that you are a person who has value they should appreciate in the first place.
If she puts you in the friendzone and she knows you like her more than a friend, she is your enemy, not a friend.
Leave her dumbass and completely walk out of her life without hesitation. Do not look back.
If you dont value yourself, how do you expect to be valued by anyone else?
That is the nice guy mentality being friends with a woman so she sleeps with you is wrong I tried that on my crush and now I'm friends with him because he's genuinely chill remembering that makes me feel like I should be arrested (14f)
@@Puffco716-vk5uf
Lady or Man whatever you are.
There are proper ways to form a relationship that is beneficial and fulling for both parties. Starting a relationship over lust doesnt work out for the best in the long run especially for females.
I suppose a long fullfiling relationship that leads to marriage and companionship is way worse than having broken relationships and a bunch of kids out of Wedlock and being a single parent.
What this "girl" just described is describing low quality females who will be used and abused. Life is better with stability and longevity not the immature mindset of chasing fleeting excitement continuously.
If you doubt me take a look at which women marry and settle down with a loving family and who remain single or have a bunch of kids without any commitment and husbands 😂
@@Puffco716-vk5uf
Since my last reply was deleted I'll keep it short.
What that "child" just described will lead to pain and stress.
It will not lead to a fulfilling relationship that will result in a great marriage and companionship.
The women who follow that advice will either end up alone and or will be single mothers without any true happiness in their life
“She won’t notice you down there”
Such a powerful line I felt that
Totally valid perspective.
Most guys don't become friends with women and do favors for them out of the kindness of their hearts. If a guy tries to hide his true intentions this way, he diminishes his masculine energy, he loses self respect, and it signals to the woman he is low value.
I tried to move out of the friend zone by ceasing hiding my feelings. She ended our friendship via a text.
You at least got a text. I got the silent treatment ever since.
friend is how u start everything, that’s why men won’t let u have guy friends bcs we’re all started there
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck.
If you look like her friend and act like her friend, youre just the friend. Lol
Women have "tried" to give me the friend-zone crap, but they quickly found out that, I'm not the guy that loans them money, gives them "help" or does "favors". 😂😂😂😂
"Confidence doesn't make average guys more attractive. It just makes women wonder where they got their delusional balls from."
Same for women. If you want me to be impressed with anything other than your looks, you're a man, and I want a feminine woman.
Who gives a shit, it obviously makes you more experienced in the long run. Your social intelligence was earned in a cereal box.
@@RobertMorgan True. A woman who is less attractive will give a man everything. Same with a less attractive man with a woman. I think of an example from Biy Meets World. Whilst Lauren was more attractive, Topanga was willing to give Cory everything.
You know guys , ......relationships doesn't have to be complicated just in this years we making them a lot complicated for some reason ....WOMEN is the answer and that's our fault since 200 years ago but now we paying our fault ....... you can try and get out of friend zone and in my opinion if she is worth it then do it but if not then don't........just keep your eyes open and don't focus only on her because you might find the one which will gonna make you a better human everyday ....but if this woman is the one which is your friend then try as much harder as you can to get out of the friend zone my brother , she is definitely worth it
Billie; Excellent presentation and valuable tips! Yes, creating sexual tension is key. At the same time, I waste no time by asking her out right away, but only when I'm available. Of course, if we are going to a baseball or hockey game, has to be when the team is playing at home! Thank you!
I'm always bad at creating sexual tension.
Its because we are attempting to explain something with words that isn't verbal in nature socializing isn't an intellectual thing it has a lot more to do with your vibe and how u come off then what u say or do exactly but the more we try to define it with language the more reduce and constrain it to the bullet points that may or may not apply with the individual your dealing with
Instructions unclear
I will just ignore any woman
Men will follow all of this advice and it will still backfire one way or another. Damn social media
A chick that's actually into you, wants to be your friend. She simply not into you, period. Just move on..
I agree with the sexual thing thow. Stop hiding your intentions or interests. It really make no sense.
I’ve just started following her a couple of days ago, and this is the only video of hers that I have to disagree with everything that she was saying about women might have a point at least some of it does but, look for me in general, if I talk to a woman that doesn’t mean I’m trying to date her I like having female friends and I have it a half dozen practical reasons for it, just approve it. One of those reasons is if I’m going on a date with a girl, I would want to look my best possible, and since I have no fashion sense, who better than help me get dressed for a date with a woman, then another woman simple, practical legitimate. Another quick one, sometimes women you don’t make any sense to us guys you really don’t you might think you do but you don’t so in order to translate what you said it helps to have a female friend who can literally help you do that. However, there is a lot of what she said here that is wrong and I hate to say it but a lot of it. Women will Friendzone guys I’ve seen it I have two college degrees I’m not even kidding. I’ve been up and down the entire eastern seaboard of the United States, three different high schools I have seen and interacted with women from literally all over. And I can tell you that women will Friendzone men whether they show interest or not women will Friendzone men no matter if the guy tries to pursue her or not. The guy can place himself on the pedestal, and if the woman is not attracted to him, and or doesn’t wanna date him for whatever reason, she will call that guy, a snob or a jack ass. I’ve seen it over and over and over again. So listening to her advice guys. In this one particular case I’m gonna have to say don’t do it because the bottom line at the end of the day from everything that I’ve seen based off all my experience, on this experience of all the friends that I’ve ever had both men and women, I can tell you one thing. Women will Friendzone you if they don’t find you attractive in terms of physical looks but they find you attractive in terms of personality. However, they will also Friendzone you and keep you on the hook giving you just enough so that you don’t actually go out and find a real girlfriend on your own but you just stay there like a heart sick puppy if they think that you could be useful to them in someway. So yes, maybe it’s possible what you see might make you more attractive to certain women but at the end of the day if they’re gonna Friendzone you, they’re gonna Friendzone you. And that’s it in fact, for something as simple as just going up and asking for a woman’s phone number nowadays the only difference between her thinking you’re flirting and giving you her phone number and her calling the cops and Avenue arrested for sexual harassment is whether she finds you attractive or not, literally all regular situation like that, that’s it.
This is the definition of a crazy woman lol
So the definition of a crazy woman is a woman that tells you to prioritize yourself and to set boundaries?
If she is a "crazy" woman, then what is a good woman, incel?
You males don't know what you want and make no sense
Exactly and she knows good and well if an average-looking guy stepped up and grew a pair to her she would still reject him
Henry Cavill:"HAHAHA. She's funny.
Meanwhile, I'm Henry Cavill."
Being her friend is important as you want your would be girl friend to see you as someone she can trust and feel safe around, even better if you can make her feel special but flirting is important too witch is probably the main reason people get friend zoned. You need to be viewed as someone that's masculine, one way to do that is to take the lead on everything but without being controlling.
This would be good advice if women ever gave it to men in real life.
PS the whole friend zone thing usually means she's afraid of losing you but if you kind of make it apparent like walk away for instance and then she does lose you things change for her real quick
No mate a lot of the time it's because she's being smashed by aguy who's not emotionally available (because she's just a booty call) and thinks she can win him over with time. In the meantime she needs someone for emotional support so she will pretend to another guy that she's romantically interested but ''not ready yet''. It's because she is narcissistic and thinks she can compartmentalise people as if they are objects.
She's just using you.
When they say they don't wanna lose my friendship, that's exactly when they do lose me...forever! Sorry, I only ever wanna be friends with girls I'm not attracted with , and I never make an active effort to meet those kind of girls either way xP but she's right, I used to make that mistake a lot. Don't be "the nice guy", don't be afraid to be yourself!
So you're pretending to be someone's friend to get laid? What a POS
“Take initiative”
Proceeds to be told ewww or be accused of sexual assault
💯 percent truth. Lotsa guys need to hear that
Nah if you just want to be friends I'm not looking for friends, I'm only "friends" with you because I want to date you and if you don't want to date I have no reason to keep talking to you. I've gotten the line"I think I'd be too much for you" WAY more...explain that one
If you’re only being nice to someone because you want sex or a relationship from them…… that’s not being nice, that’s being manipulative.
As a realist I see it as I'm not going to waste my time on a friendship that's going to hurt me...I like you why would I want to stick around and watch you date other men?. How is it manipulative if I didn't manipulate you to do anything? It's your decision to not date me just like its my decision not to continue the friendship
@@TyrTheConquerorThis. Bro I'm sick of being told that if I'm nice to a woman I want to have sex with, I'm being manipulative. How does that make sense? I can't just be nice because I'm a nice person? As if desiring sex just makes me inherently bad LMAO a man is not a man if he isn't constantly craving sex.
@@kyleemeg2171never said being nice he said he wouldn't be friends if the intent of the other person was not to date because his intenet was not platonic friendship. You can be nice and cordial to people without becoming a part of their lives too. You took what he said and turned it I to something completely different. You just Cathy Newmaned this commenter.
@@guitarman0365 nah. If you’re only being nice to women in hopes that they sleep with you or date you…. That’s not being nice, that’s being manipulative. I said what I said, and it still stands. You should be able to be friends with someone without expecting more from that relationship. It’s called being JUST FRIENDS
My observation:
Women when dating: "I want someone that is challenging. Not ALWAYS there for me. I dont want a FRIEND. I dont want him to be too nice"
in Marriage: suddenly all the above goes away. She always wants you to be with her all the time whenever she needs him. She wants you to be nice.
Boyfriend material vs Husband material are 2 different things... and that make things complicated 😢
No one in the “friend-zone” is actually a friend. Real friends actually genuinely love and care about each other like family. If someone calls you their friend but they wanna drop you or put you off as soon as it’s convenient for them, they were never your friend to begin with.
So you say the solution is to take the initiative and show that I desire her... But isn't that exactly why she answers with "You're such a great guy, but I don't wanna lose our friendship". I mean, why would she even say that if I don't take the initiative and show my interest? Am I crazy or does this make no fking sense at all
It makes perfect sense actually. What she’s saying is she doesn’t want to ruin the attention and favors she’s getting from you by having to offer you more. That’s all she’s saying. Ghost and walk away my man.
@@robertfootball1 are we talking about the same thing? You're mixing up the girl who posted the video with the hypothetical girl one is trying to date.
Here it is dumbed down for you:
Me interested in girl A.
Me TOOK INITIATIVE.
Me asked for a date.
Girl A said be friends.
Girl in video says to me: TAKE INITIATIVE.
Me says: I just did, that why girl A said be friends. She didn't just randomly say it, did she? It was an answer to something, it was an answer to ME TAKING INITIATIVE, THEN STOP TELLING ME TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE
@@iamspencerx they’re all the same thing, that’s the point I’m making. The girl in the video is no different than the hypothetical girl you mentioned.
I have a very platonic relationship with this girl. I used to like her a lot and stuff but now I just prefer having her as a friend. She likes the idea of us being friends. I prefer being friends. I know this has nothing to do with friendzone or anything but guys sometimes it’s good to have a girl as a friend. 👏
So what I get from that is “ I am just her property and nothing else “ F that bullshit thank goodness I am not that 👌
If I don't start out being friends with a woman first, how will we ever get to know each other. I'm with you on everything else.
Toxic advice
Well it applies to those kind of girls. Real men don’t want that crap
Like a beta would say. This is facts
@@NorthernSpartan what would a beta say exactly?
People calling others "beta" are the most beta people on the planet.
Setting boundaries and prioritizing yourself is "toxic advice"?
Then what is the "healthy" advice, more exactly??💀💀
Men☕️ don't make any sense and don't know what they want
Only girl I was ever friendzoned by was a friend before I was out of a relationship. Wasn't till after the marriage I was in dissolved I grew feelings for her. Sometimes the answer is just no.
I do to women all the time😂 I friendzone them on purpose
@@Floridahehe As a left leaning woman that isn't sexist to me
@@Floridahehe I know but I just wanna make sure that I could be safe from (those guys)
I've friendzoned men, the reason is because I straight up have just not been interested in them like that/haven't been interested in dating anyone. And just only saw them as friends, and that's it. No amount of these weird "rules" had anything to do with why I did it. I have never shown interest in any of said male friends either.
I'm a woman and these are all just a bunch of heavily generalized, strange, rules. It's often not that deep. Sometimes she's just not into you, it's often for the same variety of reasons you may not be into someone else. Sometimes you just don't feel anything romantic or s*xual for them.
Though sometimes friendzoning happens (regardless of gender) to let someone down nicely, especially if they're being creepy (yes women can be creeps too) and the person may be worried of how any other kind of letting down would make them react.
I have also been friendzoned. It can suck, but it's not the end of the world. Everyone experiences rejection. It's just a part of life.
You still use men in the friendzone, for support or protection. Don't be hypocritical. Iflooks are not as important for women, there would be no men in a friendzone.
The irony here fellas is that by doing what she says, you're changing for women and not yourself. If you truly want to "change" or become a "better man for women," stop simping over women and go out and live. Surive a challenge. Do something that forces you to adapt. Best of luck.
PS I am not telling anyone what to do. I just find it sad that many walk into her trap;)
Relationships aren’t actually complicated at all if you really understand that almost everything is about how you look these days.
There's nothing wrong with having women friends - as long as that is the intended relationship.
Tried this, in jail and have so much s**, this worked thanks!
Honestly, I would love it if a guy was my friend first, at least then, I know him
Good to know
I was always a friend to many beautiful women in my circle of trust when they were vulnerable
Taking advantage of that vulnerability was not on my menu
My pair are doing fine❤
It's time to pack our bags, lads
I agree with the saying that goes, 'don't follow dating and flirting advices from other women if you want to date women', but in this case I will say that Billie gives great advice because of the fact that she's traditional and got redpilled so she'll tell you the truth, although it's hard to swallow.
A long time ago someone said that a woman generally knows within the first five minutes whether she would ever consider sleeping with a guy.
That is how long you have to impress her upon first meeting her. From that point on you either confirm her original appraisal or you disqualify yourself by one means or another.
Pretty sound advice if that is what you are looking for.
If you are seeking a longer term relationship, however.. being friends is of the utmost importance. Hard to live with someone you can't stand.
It's five seconds for me and most men.
I can't remember the last time I saw a woman and thought I want that, I need that.
Nope, she's gotta make me want it.
Actually scratch that, it's faster than five seconds, I know the instant. And if I'm talking to her, I like her, there's no other reason to talk to her, unless she's a waitress or staff.
@@RobertMorgan Heh in today's 'dating market' most of em are not worth the five minutes truthfully. It is rare to find one worth dating and even more rare to find one that is wife material. It's all about 'me me me' in today's me-centric society where instant gratification rules and most people's patience is shorter lived than a fruit fly.
Best of luck to you all in trying to find love. But one thing I would say. Don't spend all your time trying to find love. Do what you need to do for yourself and to take care of yourself. Focus on your job and the real friends that you do have. That way if you don't find love. At least you have your own life.
"Put yourself on a pedastal" explains alot about her 😂
Interesting to hear you're perspective. As a man, we aren't weaseling in. We're genuinely trying to form a relationship. "Growing a pair" is super accurate though. Not being direct is due to lack of self esteem. We're hoping you will see like us because "we're always there".
But I guess that is just men projecting what they want onto women. They don't seem to lack for support like we do. So it's just not as valuable to them.
There is this mentality of you of being confident, knowing what you want, showing interest up front, don’t always be there, ect. ect.
All this advice is coming from people dating and having fun, playing the emotional games.
I just stopped caring. I just treat others like human beings, even the woman in my life, even the woman I find attractive. If I notice an opportunity worth fighting for then I’ll give it a shot. The thing is, you think you can just “know” someone in a few months. I don’t need to date someone to get to know them. I pay attention to how they act with other people.
As for “Don’t always be available.” I mean, it depends on the motivation. You say, “Oh, being available makes you seem easy.” Wait until marriage when you are expected to be reliable. Life is hard, I think a partner who is will to help endure some of the har parts of life is a good thing.
I have talked to girls who speak like this. They talk about their partners on how they are great guys and are funny. Those relationships all ended before college was over. The relationships that are still going are between people I know value their now spouses for being strong morally sound people.
What she says is on-point...especially when the guy is an 8 or higher. Otherwise, be prepared to take some rejection from time to time. But continue to work on yourself
After watching this short i am just loving the most complex topics of calculus 🌚💀
Broooooooo
I had an exam in complex calc today and have one about probability tomorrow... And that sheeeeet(being taught in foreign language) is still 100 times easier to understand ahhahahahaha
@@АндрейЦарьков-з8и can relate! 🥲
Holy crap, you're absolutely right for once. I'm going to watch this 10 more times.
There is nothing wrong with friend zone. It is much better than being her bf or f buddy.