@@Novusod What I have always found weird in women's friendships is that they will lie to each other all the time. I never understood it. Like "no, youre so pretty!" to their friend Gorlox the destroyer type person. My friends literally point out to me ive gained weight and im just like "ah sh*t, true" and I go back to the gym.
My cope is summed up best by a quote: “Chase butterflies and you’ll never catch them. Build a garden and then they’ll come. Even if they don’t, you’ll have your garden”
People don't want to be with somebody who. needs someone else to complete themselves or their life. Build a great life, and someone will want to be a part of it with you.
You don't even need to cope, just get off the dating apps and cold approach multiple women (kind of like what you're describing). If they show disinterest, move on immediately. Save yourself the time and energy and her the creep factor. Also, it depends on how much you vibe with a chick (sometimes ones you know)
The attractiveness/age correlation statistics hide a phenomena: the MOST attractive men do peak at 37, but the vast majority of men tank in their 30s, putting on a beer belly and losing muscle, which drives the average curve down.
@@rafaelamorim3527every men can age like fine wine. But most mens have shitty routines, habits and dont know how to take care for him self. If they would prioritize sleep, food, working out, skincare and mental health and stop doing their bad habits, it would easily double most men’s attractiveness
as a 27 year old virgin. Out of all my 6 best buddies I grew up with, they are all also absolute virgins +- 2 years my age. Everyone with their own place to rent, stable job and at least 4 of us are not obese lol. I can tell what lead to this tho. -None of us ever gained any visible muscle at all and I wouldnt exactly recommend modeling to anyone either. -Most of us work in tech, went to school in tech, studied in tech, so > or < 0 female friends or contacts built over the years. -We never went to drinking parties either. -We gamed a lot, so even less time spent in public. I think if I had to actually try avoiding women any harder, I wouldnt know what more I could do heh. I think clueless type of guys like us only avoided extinction historically because we got carried by arranged marriage honestly.
Yes, which was smarter than today. Dating is a scam and people fell for i. You need to spend a bunch of time and resources for it while time ago it was easy since you got someone anyway and back than all women where nice and beautiful
@@danicruz226cause they aren't problems. It's the path for success, while playing around leads to pregnancies when you aren't even capable of providing. What is he supposed to change? The dating market of the west itself is the only reason for the population collapse. This is why arranged marriages used to exist.
@@danicruz226 Have you ever heard people say "I'm going to start going to the gym this year, and lose some weight as my New Year's resolution!"? That's basically the reason. Establishing the habit of doing things with other people requires time, effort, and satisfying pre-requisites. It's not a switch you turn on, it's a full-blown lifestyle change. And people like me tend to be both reactive to the environment, as well as having a history where our ability to initiate and follow through on plans has been paralyzed by training. for example, it's easy to know that I should "reach out to people" or "join a club", but then I walk outside, and look around, and think "Well this is boring, what am I even doing here", and then turn around, walk back inside, do a search, click through the top few website results, fail to find something that looks good, and then get distracted by a youtube video, or a tutorial, or a book, or some video games, or netflix, or professional development, or a remote job, etc... And then there's the issue that meeting people requires you to know people, or be introduced, or know where to find people on a regular basis in a way where you can be friends. the longer you've been away from that, the more difficult it becomes to get plugged back in. You just loop the same day, over and over, as the years pass by.
Treat life as a game and spend time with women, for gathering moments.. not for future expectations.. you will definitely enjoy it.. I, once went to a movie with a girl, 3 years above my age on a bike.. which I thought was impossible in my life.. one more thing to say, girls also have a dirty mind. They just don't share it with anyone.. if you are able to open it.. you may get what you need... 👉👌
I'm in my 50s now, and looking back I can say that I got WAY more attention from women of all ages in the decade 35-45 than at any other stage of life.
Absolutely, 35-45 is truly men's prime. The fallacy with the study is that it doesn't take into account that women in their late 20s and early 30s become exponentially more desperate to find a partner while still looking for men older than themselves which results in dating becoming much easier for men between 35-45.
@@nitroneonicmanit also doesn't take into account that preferences need to be put into context. If a study shows that all other things being equal, mn who use pens are more attractive than pencils... That doesn't say anything about how important it is... Same with height, ya most mn want somebody like 5 inches shorter but most really don't care that much that it matters
@@nitroneonicmanso the reality is that for wmn age, looks, and chastity/baggage are literally what matter. Age especially because of fertility. Their smv is given to them and naturally declines or they ruin it with bad behavior. For mn age matters very little and it's just about working to increase smv. If you're a CEO billionaire who is confident, experienced, wise, and stylish at 22 great but even that guy will probably be better at 32
the reason they peak at that age is cuz they already had prior experience ffs lol dont think there'll be some blessing from the heavens that turns you into the rizzler at your 25th birthday
It is the average, does not reflect your specific case and a big bunch of men are as attractive (or unattractive) as you at this age. The most important thing inst age at all, but how you look at this age; I guess men at this age just happen to be more physically fit and corrected skin issues they may have had in the pas
@@DewiSant-o3y I mean if you aren't physically active people won't be attracted to you. Either find an easy high pay low hour job that allows you to dedicate 20 hours in the gym every week, or work a 50 hour a week job with low pay that keeps you in killer shape. I chose to be poor af and stay in shape. I miss money but the brainpower that comes with muscles is worth it on a karmic transcendental level. Still would rather be able to afford to live lmaooo. thats why im voting kamal
I wen on a big self improvement journey and at 29 i look the best i ever have. But i have to admit i was teased for looking very young up to like 24.... now i still have lustrous hair and a good physique and stepped up my fashion game big time.
@@Velociraith1Women are people too, but so are children so what's your point? Men and women are different so act accordingly and don't take them all that seriously especially in a dating market which is designed to screw you over as a man.
@@GigaNietzsche Ain't no way you just brought children into a conversation about ADULTS DATING! That's really flippin weird. Also my point is that the goal of dating shouldn't be just sex, aka what's perpetuated by social media, hookup culture and especially dating apps. All these things tend to make us objectify women or see them mainly as objects for sex more than people. The point of dating should be to create a connection with another human being. We call that a relationship. After we have that connection, then physical intimacy follows. In the modern world we've flipped that on it's head and now physical Intimacy comes before a strong connection. It's messed everything up. Since you seem a little bitter, and I don't blame you, try this. Get off the internet, get off porn, get off video games and live in the real world for a while, say a year or more. And if things still suck, fair enough, you have every right to complain. Otherwise, kindly please think before you speak. Thank you. Stay Humble 👊
@@Velociraith1 You're not very bright are you? My point is that sure women are people. But so are the elderly, children, lepers, queers, etc. Many people are people but that doesn't mean we're all the same or we're all equal. Far from it. If you treated women EXACTLY how you would treat men they would HATE it.
I think the golden age for men is between 25 and 40. If a man eat healthy, works out, and doesn’t have hair loss, he can still look good and be attractive past his 40s.
You are right about eating healthy food and working out but you all need to stop obsessing over hair loss, it's not that big of a deal. Men like Dwayne Johnson and Jason Statam are considered to be absolute chads. A woman with small tits can still be super attractive, same goes for bald men.
I am 27 and in a happy relationship with a foreign woman 3 years older than me. I have had my fair share of relationships throughout my twenties. All but one of them were great, and I have a lot of appreciation for women in general. But, here is what I have observed throughout theory and practice: 1. This is the most important one: Women are herd animals much more so than men. If the herd - women as a whole - keeps affirming that a Danny Trejo rather than a Henry Cavill is the peak of male attractiveness, individual women's attraction to the Danny Trejo type will increase at least a bit, even if that isn't their generally preferred type. 2. This also explains phenomena such as women breaking up with their boyfriends because one of their female friends talked trash about him. 3. Women care a lot about money and are willing to tune out many of their other sexual preferences if the man is rich. This also goes back to the herd animals thing, because status and the doors he can open for her matter more than "visceral" attraction, let's say. 4. Point 3 is even more striking considering women have a lower sexual disgust threshold, meaning they are grossed out in the bedroom quicker than men are. Money seems to override that, leading to women "closing their eyes and waiting for it to end" with some of those men. 5. Yet, if you yourself - even as someone without money - make yourself as attractive as possible through brains, muscles and grooming, and, more importantly, if you can earn a woman's trust, most of them will let you do some really nasty stuff in the bedroom and enjoy it. 6. A woman has to respect you in order to be attracted to you and for most women, that means you have to be superior to them in some way. Women like to date upwards, hence all the girl-bosses not finding long-term partners. That also explains things like height preferences, status preferences, etc. 7. Even if you have no money and no status, you can get into most women's pants by maximizing your looks and acting like you don't care. Women love bad boy behavior, because, again, it shows a kind of superiority. He is "above things". May not make for a relationship foundation, but is enough to bang, for sure. 8. Women like to be excited, meaning it is good if they have an emotion attached to you. That emotion doesn't even have to be positive; you can be an arrogant prick, as long as you are consistent. 9. That brings us to another important lesson: Men and women judge behavior quite differently. How many times have I thought of a man as an arrogant prick, and how many times were women all over him? How many times did I think of a woman as a self-absorbed bitch, but other women looked to her as a role model? Men, you can't equate women's judgement to your own. 10. Women doubt absolutely everything and it can ruin relationships. No matter how secure you make her feel and how much love you shower her with, she will doubt you and the relationship. There is no sleep in a relationship with a woman, it is a constant hustle. 11. At the same time, if they feel too secure with a man, they will be bored and also consider leaving him. They are always looking for a potential alternative. 12. That means, as a man, you are well-advised to keep her on edge as well, and signal that you are in a relationship with her because it is pleasant and makes you happy, but that can end anytime. For us, as men, that may seem manipulative - it is - and may not come naturally; but it provides her with the sense of latent drama she so desperately needs to stay excited. 13. The dating market is "ladies' choice" - they dictate how it works. For example, I have no doubt that men would be more than willing to date a taller woman - I know I would and plenty of my friends would too - BUT women would not date a shorter man. That is because they want to feel small (aforementioned superiority/status thing); so, men will preemptively say "Oh, I only date shorter women." because, yeah, of course! Because they only date taller men. Men will preemptively say that only shorter women are an option, because they know that taller ones won't care for them. 14. Men, never change for a woman, whether you are in a relationship or trying to adapt to the dating market. Live your life YOUR way. If you change, the women realize they are your superior and lose all respect, and hence their attraction for you. Even if you are downtrodden, outmatched, depressed, whatever - a man who bows down will never be respected by a woman. 15. Women are HORRIBLE communicators, despite what you (and they) have been told. Men are much better at communicating. Passive-aggressiveness, nagging, letting grudges build up ... these are all behaviors that are NOT respected in male culture, but they are defining of female culture. Men get mad about something and explode, they have a problem and they solve it or talk it out. That is a good way of communication. Women nag and think they are "constructively criticizing" the relationship. Most of the time, they have NO idea what they want and feel like talking in and of itself improves things. No. Vapid talk for the sake of talking turns one's voice into white noise. If you talk, communicate something. 16. As partners, women want to feel safe with you, if you can make her feel that way, you are winning. That doesn't invalidate the aforementioned: Never let her get too comfortable, hence bored. You should come across like a dangerous beast that miraculously tolerates and even appreciates her presence. I think women call that "love". 17. Speaking of love, men and women handle that very differently also. Women are much more rational and calculating about choosing partners than men are. Men fall in love, women choose who to love. 18. Try to find a woman with an intact family, including a healthy relationship with the father. A good father has an intensely positive effect on his kids; for daughters, it usually means that they are less prone to this neurotic behavior I mention throughout these points. 19. As we can see in the video, men rate women across a normal distribution. Men, that also means that you should be open to more and less attractive women. I know I've had prettier and less prettier partners. If you can at least find any physical beauty within her looks, think about her personality; there are many pretty women around the world, but how many are bearable for more than a couple of months? If you find a cool, friendly, warm, smart, relaxed woman with healthy values, think long and hard about letting her go because of some crooked teeth. Women reduce themselves so much to their looks that they often forget about having a personality. When those looks fade, what's left? Nah, if you find a good one, think about holding onto her. 20. Women are like cats: They may come to be pet and cuddled and give you all sorts of nice feelings, they stick around and you treat the well, everything is great and could go on like this - and then they leave, for no apparent reason, never to be seen again. Enjoy the time, but don't expect it to last, no matter how much love and effort you put in. Women are chaos and they themselves know it. TO CONCLUDE: There is a fair share of toxic behaviors in this list. Try to find a good woman that does not bring them to the table and does not bring them out in you. They are rare, but they exist. If you find one, and she doesn't look like a freightliner (on the condition that you don't either), get her and try to hold onto her. Be happy, just remember: They are cats.
Nice comment. I agree with many points! Women like cats is a great example. But I kinda diagree about attractivness.. Bcs looks and youth is very important for us men. But of course sometimes it better to be with a solid 7 than with a 10 who is psycho.
DON'T YOU SHITTALK ABOUT HENRY CAVIL! Just kidding. Your first point is super important: Human cognition and values are NOT rational. They go through a long list of heuristics, biases and short circuits. One of the strongest of these is a social way of knowing and having values. Women are especially social thinkers. They are VERY easily influenced by their friends and family. If you date a girl and you meet her friends and don't get their approval you are almost likely toast. I once had a perfect relationship. Everything was amazing. Marriage was on the horizon. Her golddigger sister did not like me. She did not hate me or anything, just did not have a positive opinion about me, mostly because I was thinking about becoming a teacher in order to make the world a better place, and teachers don't earn much. Over the course of just a few weeks sis brainwashed my fiance into breaking up with me. Joke is on her though, as today I have beautiful kids and far more money I know how to spend, meanwhile she is almost a hobo with no kids, old and ugly.
you couldn't have summed it up more perfectly , if you don't mind me asking how did you make sure your current partner isn't subject to any of the things you mentioned in your comment
Fking youtube pretty much deletes every 2nd comment one makes in this topic including my replies to this wall of text. I'm shocked your comment stayed. It probably caused a memory overflow in whatever algorithm was trying to figure out if you are going against TH-cam's ideology.
The entire video refers to ONLINE dating and in reality, only to clicking but not to who really ends up with who. You should point that out more clearly. It's not what most people are interested in life. They don't wanna hook up with someone new all the time. They want to find a person they can see regularly, so it's more about how to be attractive for 3rd and 4th date. Stats will change massively. There's also data for this.
But as previously said, online dating IS reality. It's the reality now. Most couples start off online. And their online habits affect their irl habits as well. And they don't have to want to hook up with someone new all the time. Wanting to hook up with someone new every once in a while is enough to ruin any relationship, which is why it's much more difficult to have a healthy relationship lately. Relationship quality tanked with the advent of online dating. Who really ends up with who is also affected by online dating, because women end up with some dude that doesn't come even close to her online dating induced fantasies, and she'll never be happy with that guy, dooming the relationship in the short to mid term.
@@mrkiky still, the relative importance of the traits shown in the video are different outside of online dating. If I pay for a prostitute, I'll also look less for a high IQ compared to looks.
Its probably why its the only time of my life i got approached by à 23 yo girl and another 18 yo girl. It was never because i was actually attractive. I just "peaked". This is one of the funniest yet saddest things ever 😂😂😂. Im 33 now and im back to "normal" 😂😂😂...
Curious, what’s your height, fitness, rough attractiveness, lifestyle, and income (roughly). Not doubting you do well. More so that you may be an exception. Ex. I don’t doubt the 38 yr old, handsome fit, 6ft director of Marketing making $200k will thrive into his 30s.
In my early 20s, I really wasn't considered attractive. Most women didn't see me as dating material. Now, in my late twenties approaching 30, let me tell you things have changed. Complete 180°. Finished my engineering degree and started lifting, literally around 70% percent of women I engage with or encounter on the streets flirt with me, subtle or direct. Feels weird because I am basically still the same nerd that gets anxious easily. So quite hilariously I can't really take advantage of this.
You've figured out what works, now you just have to work on your charisma. I have always been attractive, both face and body (I'm 6 feet tall, 195 lbs, lean body mass) but I have an avoidant personality disorder, social anxiety and some depression, so I have the body and looks, but not the charisma.
The chart about profession is definitely spot on. When I joined the military I had a girl I was friends with comment about my uniform. She said, "that poor uniform..." I asked her what she meant, and she replied, "Its going to be all over the floor when I am done with you." That was definitely a confidence boost I wasn't expecting that day. 😆 Service, hospitality, and labor being so low is kind of unfortunate though. Those people are the backbone of society. People thank me for my service all the time, but its these people who have my thanks. And I truly mean that, as I've gotten older, and my previous career has taken its toll, these people have been a Godsend.
@@NelsonGuedes If you are good for society then you are an outlier and people hate outliers, they hate their betters. Society is a giant bucket of crabs.
Even profession is subjective. Since I don't make any distinction between a soldier and a serial killer, I would never get involved with a military man no matter how jacked they are. I don't support war pigs in politics or dating. Values trumps appearance.
I generally agree with the divorce graph, however one thing to keep in mind is that because of current divorce laws women are often net takers in a divorce, which makes divorce a somewhat more palatable option for them. Women get primary custody of children far more often, get spousal and child support far more often, typically contribute less to marital wealth and thus get cash they didn't work for, and more often get to remain in the marital home. Because of this, the downside risk for a woman in a divorce is far less.
This is why usually men are the one who ask women to marry them. If hookup culture has high risks for women, bc they might end up getting pregnant and 100% responsible for being the caregiver and the breadwinner for that family; divorce culture present a higher risk for men, since a lot of the families still see the man as the breadwinner and the woman as the caregiver exclusively. However, the risk is always higher for women when there's children involved: if the woman used to have a job and has a kid, there's a high chance she'll live her job at least in the first 2-5 years of the kid, if not forever, which creates a huge experience gap in a woman's career and makes her financially dependent to men, or, at least, it becomes more difficult for her to get a job. I think it's only fair that if men can call their's a child to who they contributed 1% into growing, women can call their's their husband's belongings as well.
@mujtabaalam5907 Agreed. I can't find any other reason that explains this other than women are generally more emotional and thus more likely to initiate divorce. If anything, same-sex females should have even higher chances of divorce.
And then there’s the outliers. I’m 47 and in the best shape of my life. Happily married for 13 years and getting told I’m aging like fine wine. I get more attention than I ever did in my thirties
My wife was loveliest in her 20s and hottest in her 40s. In our sixties we laugh a lot together, Find a love in your 20s- make it work. You may have to travel. Toys and "freedoms" are dust.
Ya he's wrong. Studies are clear that there's a looks threshold where that's the only thing that matters. Then it becomes about everything else and looks take a backseat
yeah, looks will only get their attention, but your overall status, personality, money situation, etc is what determines if she will keep seeing you or not.
Looks don't take u far if the girl is at your level w looks or higher. But if she's even 1 or 1.5 below (10 scale) oh boyy looks give u wings my friend 🪽 those women will even say they'll "wait for you' if you say emotionally u can't commit 🤫
The chart about females vs males max attractiveness is a good base, but still not showing the full truth. If men were completely free to choose without any legal and societal restrictions, they would choose even younger females partners as other, older data has shown. Still, great video again and keep up the awesome work!
Dating an attorney / lawyer was the most stupidest thing I ever did. Never date anybody who wants to be right all the time, has the mental arsenal to win every argument, and - in the end - can even use their job against you professionally. I'd like to hear from women who find lawyers attractive why they do. (In my case, the lawyer was the woman, so maybe male lawyers are different.)
Maybe I'm just being vulgar, but some people will just think the other person as a wallet so it doesn't matter what spew out of their mouth as long as the money flows.
The status of telling her girlfriends how her man is the big, big lawyer guy. The status of him always being well-dressed and of course the perceived high salary. Other to that job: doctor (healer), firefighter (real man), police man (good guy + fit + uniform) and pilot (traveller) are the archetypical jobs women love to see. Not to forget CEO of something (commanding people while earning a looooot).
Just to drive home the point; law is a career that attracts Psychopaths and narcisists. As does politics. (No surprises there). So the chances of getting a really troubling person are higher.
Maybe the woman is the only one who has the balls (hehe) to actually communicate that they’re not happy with the relationship? Men are notoriously shunned for being emotionally vulnerable. Easier to let it fizzle out and not admit defeat than it is to admit you’re wrong and find a solution better for BOTH.
The biggest problem no one speak about.. The biggest issue that often goes unmentioned is how men rate women based on pictures. Typically, women spend at least 30 minutes applying makeup before taking these photos. Without makeup, a woman's rating often drops by around 2 points. As a result, men's ratings of women without makeup closely resemble how women tend to rate men overall. So we are equal for attractiveness.
@@otaviotisikawa2594what does that even mean? The only reason the age gap thing is such drama in the West is because of progressives trying to manipulate mn into settling for leftovers
Women give me way more attention at 41 with a ring, two little kids, and haven’t touched a weight or done cardio in years than they ever did hitting the gym 5-6 days a week in my 20s.
"Preselection is a principle which dictates that women are more attracted to men that seem attractive to other women. The term “attractive” is quite relative. For example, if you’re constantly around women, it applies; if you’ve got a lot of pictures with beautiful women around you, it applies; if you’re talking to a beautiful woman and she looks like she’s having a good time, it applies; if you’ve got a girlfriend, it applies. Basically, if attractive women see you NOT getting rejected and that you’re OK in the presence of other equally attractive or more attractive women, they will be attracted."
@@user-gr1io9is3v No. Just that there's nothing sexier than an man who.can commit and participate in raising kids. Any animal can breed and reproduce. Takes an aware, evolved man to rear and guide children and be faithful to their mother and an example for the home.
This is a hard pill to swallow. But it's all true. When you're 18, you feel like you have all the time in the world for dating. But the years begin to zoom by as you fall into a routine. And the older you get, the faster time is perceived to go by. I always said "I'll worry about it another day." Well, today is that day I always put it off for. I'm 33 now and I still feel nowhere near ready to even try dating. My value is not where I want it to be and I don't yet feel truly happy and satisfied with myself to even consider sharing my life with somebody else. Maybe one day. But until then, I just continue walking past all these women, not even batting an eye at them.
I am 42 now and I identify myself with what you said in my old days. Now I might consider myself ready for sharing my life with someone but there is a thing, I feel really confortable the way life is now, less work more time and not too bad in the wallet, plus it is crazy to consider the size of the risk that a relationship brings to a man and then I decide to just live another day being myself and the way it always worked for me. When you are older it is harder to restart in life if a trusted person decides to ruin your life for whatever reason she might come up with. At this age, I feel that I am too picky, enough to acept and carry on life my own way. Just my experience here, hope that helps and I wish the best of luck with whatever decisions you take. Peace...
@@du4lstrik3 that’s a terrible mindset. People like yourself will end up with major regrets late in life because you wait for the perfect moment that will never arrive. You have to take the risk, or you’ll never your desired destination. Hopefully you come to that realization sooner than later
@@siddsunil3731 I mean I certainly jump on opportunities if they present themselves. I'm not shy when it comes to women. I just don't work the field and actively try to seek them out.
@@du4lstrik3 exactly my case. 34 here and its been a long timz since i look at women who are considered attractive. What is the point to be interested in what is not interested by you ? My friends do not seem to understand my point.
When they finally graduate into nesting mode, women value security, resources, and stability. Security is tied into the physicality of the man. If a man stays in shape and is halfway intimidating to other men, he doesn't drop off until his health does. That can be as late as the 60s.
Oh, this is not surprising at all. It is obvious for those of us who are not sleepwalking in this world. Basically, if you are a garbageman, women deem you to be a garbageman forever. If you are unemployed, there is still some hope that you are making money somehow, or will do in the future. I know a really low quality guy who used to be a bus driver, but women hated it. They considered it a loser's job. So he started selling drugs and women L-O-V-E-D it. Absolutely loved it. Ugh, don't take it as a career advice.
The revealed preferences basically reflects how much they can KNOW about the man's attributes AFTER ONE DATE. They definitely know what he looks like, reasonably good handle on fun, so on down to no real idea about sincerity. It's not the woman's long-term weightings.
Plenty of young women like older men. Maybe not the majority, but plenty do. Don't ever be intimidated by the disgusting social pressure against age gaps, just be discreet and don't let people know about it.
@@jp7357 "rich older men" versus men who are 10-20 years older. Two different concepts. He was denying that girls at their peak are attracted to men in their 30s. It's not just about money, if it were, they wouldn't have been attracted to me.
This is truly an online phenomena. In the courting before the internet, there was proximity only, and safety mattered. Like in other less developed countries a man can be seen as a protector if the police and government are corrupt.
I agree with the bit about online, its a bit fake, the fact is we probably had more successful marriages in the past because we met people in real life and really got to know them, generally they lived near us and had grown up with similar values and in the same environment, so we could relate to each other better. Just a thought.
You really are the most balanced and grounded in reality of all these "pill" channels and pill adjacent. Not bluepill thinking that looks dont matter and women don't lie, not too redpill thinking that mens primes are mid to late thirties, and not too blackpill thinking that looks is all that matters (it matters the most tho)
@@Twohandpair I'll get to the popular ones eventually, it just takes me forever to film/edit the videos lol. It's why I started the newsletter in the first place.
@@topy706 it also helps to know if its worth it to be interested in women (in correlation with your looks) or just forget about them. My looks cant afford to desire them, so i let myself forget about them. Most of the time, im not even looking at goodlooking women. And my friends dont know why im not interested anymore. They are in disbelief
This is ALMOST accurate. In the real world, it just keeps getting better and better for guys over 35 who want LTRs, if you have your act together. The reason is because the guys who are in shape, make good money, etc. and want LTRs are all married off before 40. So for a woman 30+ or 35+ who wants to date or get married, almost all the guys she will meet or see on dating apps are unsuitable guys (fat, poor, etc.). Women's preference will also start to shift significantly away from looks toward provisioning and husband/father traits over 30. So the kind of women you can pull over 30/35 for LTRs keeps improving if you are a suitable guy as you age. The problem with Tinder data is it's all centered on hookups, so of course it's looks and status.
@@DavidZ4-gg3dm No. Unfashionably dressed in a group of higher-earning dudes. I'm 6 feet tall and was the most masculine of the bunch (corporate drones). Beyond that, I have no idea what made her willing to struggle with her considerable approach anxiety to take her shot.
Dating. Are you kidding me? Compared to my best years in broadcasting at age 32, I have lost maybe 15% of what I had in objective attractiveness. I also have no debts, pay no interest, and run my own company. People think I'm in my early 50's, but I'm 72. Do you think most single (not divorced) women anywhere near my age could keep up with me, either in the bedroom or on a 5K run? I think not. The ones who could keep up would think that I am "grandpa old." So dating? Naw. No surprises in those graphs for me. I'm just waiting for the trumpet. Now, if guys like me were all A list actors...well, there is a different standard for those men, and we all know it.
As I have gotten older, the way I view attractiveness has changed. Mostly I care about a person who has the same values and someone who can communicate effectively. Looks are not a high priority at this point.
As a 29 year old guy that worked out regularly since like 18 and earlier, looks do matter, a lot of girls i've been with had a really positive reaction to my body and looks, so yeah, the most obvious way to be more attractive is to just be more physically attractive, good diet, good training plan, dress nicely, have your hair in order.. But other than that i feel like girls are much more interested in me since i started working 4 years ago and i started making a few times more than the average salary, it's not obvious at first of course, i'm not by any means rich, but it's obvious when they find out that i earn more, that they get more interested as well, it's a status thing, but also my confidence is higher so they pick up on that as well
Take it with a grain of salt. You have more status and wealth generally as you get older as a man so you will be a more attractive option for a women especially long term as you age if you stay fit etc as women look for better lifestyle. You have to be that type of men though.
Im legit a 26 year old virgin and have never had dating options. Ironically according to this video, i should be having the most amount of options currently but i dont have any at all. Kinda crazy
@@LoveMadeLogical that's a good question! I know as a teenager I was shy so I think that was the main reason. However once I turned 20, I was no longer shy but I kept getting rejected. I think alot of it is that I'm never in a conducive environment for dating. For example, I'm in med school with 30 students with women who already have bfs. They aren't open to set up guys either. So I'm just not in a great position currently
it's obvious, but try to gym-max, face-routine-max, socialize more (not necessarily with women, just to increase the social circle), pursue some goals outside of a job
Having watched this video I feel like it just reinforces everything we typically assume about men and women. It doesn't really chagne how I see dating because most dating these days is skewed by an algotythm of an app in the online dating stratosphere.
The quality of this video is definitely something I was not expecting - and although some of it seems to be known from prejudices, seeing the actual data is mind blowing!
Men's attractiveness is based on their ability to provide and protect and navigate the world. That is 40-50. A woman's attractiveness is based on how navigable her body is, that is 20.
It used to be that way, but things changed. Women can now mostly provide for themselves. Most attractive women in their 20s are dating someone within 10 years of them. I want to say 3-7 is the norm.
@@sgs8747 women can get a paying job, however they still want a man to provide for them or one that has an influx of resources to do so. Not only that many women are in debt and not in well paying jobs to begin with.
Based on the low sub count and some other things, I was initially expecting this to be some low-quality AI bot content farm video, but it actually turned out to be an astonishingly informative and well-evidenced video presented by a real person.
For my generation, the key to success was to reject the lie and resist the pressure to work hard and sign it all away for the betterment of the better half of society. Choosing to be anything other than a sacrificial utility could cost you friends and family not to mention society will try to take what you're unwilling to give of your earnings. Young men today are unaware how fortunate they are not having to choose what most men can't or face the truth most men won't while keeping your friends and family. They can't fault you for you're an eager lamb desperately awaiting slaughter but society will because the alternative can't be. I hope some of you take advantage of the current circumstances because you're going to face society's wrath for the choice that was made for you.
A man's physical prime is definitely 20-30 years of age, but the reason why some men 30+ arguably do better than men in their "prime" years is because of status and wealth in combination with their still decent looks.
I definitely got the most play in my early and mid 20’s in despite even moving to NYC in my early 30’s where everybody is screwing around and partying a lot compared to most other places. However I will say my *overall* social life was never richer or more intriguing than it was in New York…a high concentration of interesting/dynamic people live there after all. But back to getting laid and hooking up, a couple of things happen. By the time you’re in your early to mid 30’s a lot of your weekend partying buddies have settled down and are shopping at Walmart on Saturday night with the future ex-wife. Also you get a little pickier and mellow out a little. You’ve (hopefully) got other focuses that take more of you time and energy to where ending up in some random chicks bed and with a disgusting hangover the next day doesn’t quite have the allure that it used to.
I'm 39 year old white guy, 180cm always went to the gym 3 times a week, ate healthy, no receding hair line. Not very outgoing or social, but I do chat up the odd chick at the mall. I am still bedding chicks in their late 20s without a problem and i have higher standards now than I did in my 20s too. I feel like I haven't peaked yet.
Culture has a lot to do with mating. Back in the 1950s, there was a lot of pressure on both men and women to get married and have children. Homosexuality was only practiced in secret. Gender preference was extremely rare. People did what they were expected and pressured to do. So a lot more people got married, even though many didn't end up happily ever after. Today there is still some pressure, especially from parents, to get married, but the culture has totally changed. Sexual preference is now open. The rise of social media has reduced person to person interaction and dating. It seems to have led to some of the preferences seen in those graphs. As a happily married 60 something male, I sure am glad I am not starting out in my 20s today. I don't think I would have ended up where I am today.
@LoveMadeLogical idk I've seen a good amount of men in their 30s even early mid 40s who say they have more attention from women than they did in their 20s
@BryWMac yeah that's what I'm thinking. Most people hear 30 or 40 and they think of some guy who's fat and bald or at least Norwood 2. They think of some man who's more in his 40s or 50s but 30 even 35 isn't that different biologically from 25. I think that range can be pushed at least a bit further up if they exercise, eat well and get plenty of rest.
@@supermonk3y07 My experience and that of most of the guys I know is that we were almost invisible until our thirties. Not much has changed career or personality-wise, it's like we just weren't old enough for women to take us seriously
To add in, even in a non-romantic setting attractiveness biases exist. Which means you get treated worse if you're less attractive just out and about doing regular daily things.
I am objectively the most attractive now that I am 35 as I am much more muscular and cut than ever before, without losing hair or showing any other typical "old" traits And still I struggle much more to find a sexual partner than ever before. I think age is a factor by itself. Disregarding my otherwise better looks, just the fact that I am older makes me less attractive.
That is definitely a problem for some women, but perhaps you are not as tall or confident or are missing other traits that women find attractive. Keep in mind that height is by far the most attractive thing for women.
I think people on a dating website are preselected. If you are really good looking and successful, you might be able to find a partner offline, you do not even need to go to such a website. I understand that doing this is way more common than 20 years ago, but if data comes from online sources only it might not show the whole truth.
Extremely preselected. The highest user rate of any nation is about 30% and the ratio of male to female users is, on the app with the highest user rate, somewhere around 7:1, and that is likely _overestimating_ the female user rate. Women who can get the men they want largely do not use dating apps and the men who use dating apps are largely men who cannot get women and a small number of men who both want and can attract a disposable harem. These statistics are not representative of the general population but of a few minority (in some cases, extreme minority) subsets.
Yes. Dating apps filtrate us, the uglys and averages. Dating apps are acrually means to facilitate women to access the best men. Which facilitates natural sélection and makes upcoming générations even more good looking. (Which is happening every 10 years. People are more and more good looking). Personnaly i dont play this game. Its not made for me. This face and this body will go extinct and its fine
@@nevisysbryd7450 Well even with that taken into account. If you view statistics on the number of young adults who are in a relationship you can see that 40% of men are in a relationship. Wheras for women the number is as high as 70%. Which means a few subset of men do indeed have a harem or a lot of women are dating other women.
Yeah the top people don’t use dating apps and wouldn’t find anyone to swipe on, those apps are for the “average” ones who can’t walk into a cafe and meet someone
45 year old lawyer....never had a problem with women when I was younger but I would always approach....now with a grey beard and kids I get women from 25 to 65 approaching me all the time....Im actually shocked at how easy it would be if I wasnt married.
I used to consider myself fairly below average attractiveness and I struggled to get female attention. I've never gone through an extended dry spell though and have always been able to get laid, get a girlfriend, or get dates. Now I'm 34 and buying my first house, make pretty good money, work on my fitness, I do cool shit, have tons of cool friends, and I would consider myself actually average to slightly above average attractiveness now. I still have no problem getting dates and honestly getting female attention seems easier than ever now. I hooked up with around 8 women in the last 16 months and have a current long term FWB. I could definitely be doing worse. 🤷 I provide this just as my anecdote. At the end of the day you can build yourself up and do better. And it's true what they say - success builds confidence. When I was in my young 20s and lacked confidence with women it was harder, but the positive feedback of realizing women actually do like me gives me more confidence to shoot my shot. And now I effortlessly talk to any woman.. Just gotta build yourself up and keep trying. You'll get there
I (34M) can humbly say that I am in the top 5% of men: 6 ft 4, 220 pounds, muscular, long hair, good jawline and beard, etc. Manager at an engineering firm, make great money, fancy sports car, the whole thing. I can assure you that looks are not what women are after. Women want winners (or at least men that show the characteristics of a winner). 1. Confidence and good game. 2. Social circle with other (pretty) women. Try to get a pretty girl to know you talk to her hot friends or acquaintances and she'll definitely put you in a different category. 3. Big one here: status. Try to be known for something special in your area/city. Strong identity is important. 4. Looks. Above all of these, never quit and take as many shots as you possibly can.
I (35M) can humbly say that I am in the bottom 50% of men: 6 ft 1, 180 pounds, not fat and barely muscular (even though I exercise daily), shaved head (bald), weak jawline and can't grow a proper beard, big nose, etc. Senior at an engineering firm, make great money, fancy car, the whole thing. I can assure you that looks are what women are after. Women might want winners... after the looks match. 1. Confidence: check. "Good game": well, I make them laugh, but that's it. 2. Social circle with other (pretty) women: check (friends girlfriends mostly). They're actually actively trying to get me a partner, and recently discovering the harsh reality of dating for (bottom) men. 3. Status: check I guess? dunno. 4. Looks: Yeah, totally fail at that one. Makes everything else irrelevant. Everybody seems to believe they would do better than us ugly fellas in our shoes. It reminds me of really muscular guys in the gym thinking everybody can achieve the same through hard work. Reality is genetics is everything. And that's life. Period.
As a DBA, that R coefficient is a bit crazy. It's rare to see anything that high in any study, considering 0.7 is considered high in any situation. Even 0.3 is considered a moderate number.
cope, how many relationships do you see that are 10 years apart. At 38 you can get woman in their early thirties, which are either incapable of relationships, ugly or single mothers.
This guy is somewhat smart but misses a lot: Women are attracted to power…. Need to include discussions not of jobs but businesses , jobs hold little power. The age graph is only useful for the masses . Powerful men throw that off and are attractive to younger women’s
This is false... the problem with this research is that it doesn't account for your potential in your 40s but instead compares against the average person in their 40s. I get far more attention in my 40s than I ever did in my 20s or 30s. It's a function of how well you take care of yourself, your body game and your perceived social status and hierarchical dominance amongst your peers. I have access to many many more 18-24 year old women than I ever thought possible and it's definitely in part due to my age. A man reaches his sexual attraction peak in his mid-40s assuming he didn't let himself go, is fit, jacked and has experience and access to worldly possessions your younger self never would. I mean im 6'2" 240 lbs and jacked. I'm not an average looking dude an i make 6 figures so im just saying the potential may be there for some of you and if it is, this research is totally skewed.
Here is your answer, 6 feet 2, good looking. I can't achieve this with my 5 feet 6 crap. I have some some play, when I really try. But it is not attention.
"Your data is wrong" BECAUSE ITS SUBJECTIVE. Your fucking experience has nothing to do with statistics and averages. And basically stating that you're not only a 6 figure earner but also over 6 foot and jacked means you're delusional, you're top 1% with income and physique combined. You aren't the average and your experience doesn't reflect on the grand scheme of things.
As a gay man, I’m interested in what the data would be for men and men in terms of age and attractiveness. In the queer community, it’s very common for couple to be extremely different heights, and age gaps. I would say with gay men, they can evolve (including sexual roles). For example can like older men and be passive, but then as get older themselves become more dominant and like younger guys.
Quick FYI about the r value. If you square it, you get the variation it explains. For example, an r of 0.80 explains 64% of the variation (0.80² = 0.64). That means that physical attractiveness makes up of 64% of their positive response
This is a flawed study, If you are picking out potential mates from only online PHOTOS, then appearance is obviously what you have to go off of! In person, personality, being funny, being caring towards women in your envronment are all factors! Woman that are fun, flirty and smile alot are attractive in person even if in a photo they don't look like supermodels. Also if your just hooking up you are doing it for immediate gratification and the more beautiful the male or female is the more gratification you get. In person there are plenty of beautiful people that are just bad human beings and they would be perfectly fine for a hit and quit, you wouldn't want to date one! I mean if a girl has a drinking or drug problem I don't want to marry them but if they look like Jessica Alba then a ride isn't out of the question!
I'm 29 and I'm a virgin most of my life until 28. I started going to gym in my 27 and it's really game changer for me. Women in my workplace started to approach me because I'm the only guy in my office in twenties and got in shape.
People who have their stuff together enough to work and then put time into themselves like gym, sports, hobbies, interests immediately put themselves into the top 30 percent of potential partners.
As long as you stay in shape and don't lose your hair, you'll continue to get more attention from women (even women 20-25) as you age. In the US and the West in general, large age gap relationships are taboo, but in the rest of the world it isn't. I'm 40, live in Latin America, and I've never had so many 20-25 year old attractive women into me. I have so much more attention than I had in the US, and I get more attention from women in their early 20's than any other age group. Granted that's the age group that has the most single women.
I agree with most of what you said. It has not been my experience that I did better in my 20s with women. I progressively did better with the ladies as I aged until I hit my early 40s. I believe women initiate divorce more often because it’s simply benefits them more. There’s far less risk and far more reward if they get a divorce and move onto other options.
Those statistics are problematic: First, attractiveness is largely defined by culture and by local social context. Culture even varies among each social classes, and even among "urban tribes." There are women that loves thugs, and other despise them and love "good citizens". Of course, exist the biological component, but it is entrenched with cultural-social aspects too. Second, there is a difference in what people says and what people does. Ex. younger women wouldn't tell so explicitly that they want a much older man than them (ex. 10+ years older and married), or that they want to participate of gang bangs; older women says that want younger men to date and hook up, because older people tend to be less embarrassed to say what they want. In general, people says what is expected to them to say, so you must take that into account. Third, always must be problematized the sample of people from which those statistics where taken. Fourth, must be taken in account the individual factor of preference, and that makes a "general rule for attractiveness" more even problematic and volatile, because can vary day to day.
If we reduce ourselves to an online commodity via dating apps than, of course, one is reduced to mere superficialities - looks and status. Go outside and meet people IRL. For men, in particular, it turns all the purported "data" on its head. I have two buddies who were absolute legends among women when they were single - both were balding and overweight. One was a barely 5 feet tall. Why? They had an abundance of charm, charisma, and confidence and, no, neither were rich.
The best advice I can give as a 48-year-old man to a young man: (1) Eating vegetables works. Walking a lot works. People routinely get my age wrong by 10-15 years. (2) The data presented here tells us that most women find most men to be not very physically attractive. But they still date us! This is actually good news: it's the things you can change that matter most (diet, exercise, interests... generally being invested in yourself) when it comes to meaningful relationships. All you gotta do is be better than your competitors, and men generally put so little work into ourselves that that's not THAT hard to do. Leading me to (3) Read "Models" by Mark Manson: it's the first non-garbage dating book for straight men I've ever seen. Successful dating is not about being dominant, it's about being non-needy; it's not about being smooth, it's about the capability to be vulnerable.
Neuroticism (experiencing more intensely negative emotions) is far more common in women due to our enlarged empathy, which we need in order to read or babies' needs through body language, and also to be the ones who protect them from everything.
Higher neuroticism does not equal higher empathy; it is caused by the amygdala overreacting to stimulus in the environment compared to someone who is low in neuroticism which corresponds with the amygdala not reacting as much or as intensely. This could be a result of genetics or environmental upbringing, but it does not necessarily change in relation to gender. It has more to do with the individual and the beliefs of the individual on whether or not they should self-improve in that area. Empathy specifically is from the anterior insular cortex, which deals with the majority of emotions themselves. They are derived from 2 different parts of the brain and while the parts of the brain can have an impact on each other, neuroticism does not have an impact on ability to feel empathy, however a smaller cerebrum (common in aspd) can cause a lack of empathy and a lack of neuroticism. Whoever told you neuroticism means higher empathy is a quack.
@@Nickel_Coin that's not what I said. I said due to the need of more empathy of women in order to reading babies, women tend to have higher neuroticism, as a maladaptative trait. I'm not at all saying neuroticism causes empathy. Anyways, it's just a theory I heard about. If this isn't an evolutionary maladaptative trait, then, why else would neuroticism be higher in women? (Actually asking)
@@Mrsgmuller73 "neuroticism (experiencing more intensely negative emotions) is far more common in women due to our enlarged empathy" - you. That is exactly what you said omg. Higher neuroticism among a general population (women specifically in this context) is typically caused by a mix of environmental factors and beliefs among that population on whether or not they should improve or not improve on certain areas (learned behavior). There isn't any consistent scientific evidence backing up a reason relating to empathy specifically why women would need to have higher neuroticism; it is most likely a learned behavior due to being constantly told they're under threat of being assaulted etc all the time when growing up as that will cause the amygdala in a developing brain to become larger and substantially more reactive thus resulting in high neuroticism.
You say at 4:21, “Physical attractiveness is just as important to women as it is for men; women just don’t admit it.” No, it’s not. For women, physical attractiveness is way more important than it is for men. While we, as men, are totally okay with dating average-looking women, women are only really interested in men who are in the top 10% of attractiveness. That’s a huge difference. The data also clearly shows that they think most of us are ugly as hell.
Women are ok with dating average looking men, just not having casual sex with them. All the data I've seen shows it's basically even in terms of valuing looks. On average of course.
Unemployed could definitely mean a lot of things that it is not a great data set. Someone who is say a artist or Musician or pursues creative expression who is technically unemployed would probably be more attractive than some dude just dwelling in his parents basement with no job.
artist/musician were on the chart separate from unemployed just not mentioned in the video. I agree that preferably the data would've been more specific(theres a difference between a doctor and a nurse) but you kind of have to work with what you got though when it comes to dating statistics.
A study, "Computational courtship understanding the evolution of online dating through" concludes that women are more selective than men, even for long-term relationships. As for Match, it's mostly used by older women. I think 25 to 32 is the prime age for men.
As a male I always perceived peak male attractiveness to be likely in the late 30s to early 40s. Whenever they achieve a rugged and masculine look without the baby face but before they harden up so much that they look too weathered. This could be extended well after or happen before late 30s too it’s a range of this “look” that men get. Women’s peak doesn’t abide by the same rules and is based solely on youthful beauty.
I am guessing the women are more cautious about picking men because in our society women are often expected to rely on the man more in the relationship.
There's also the fact that if she is sleeping around, then she will get a worse reputation for it than any man regardless of country or culture. (though it is much worse in places outside the west) Plus, the risk of date-rape is much higher so again, different standards for things like 'don't murder me' this is especially true in my country where women have become scared of dating apps after a string of tinder rape+murders.
Yeah I don't buy that men can't have a prime that sustains much longer than just to 30. The vast majority of men stop taking care of themselves at 30 especially in a chronically obese country like America. If you're jacked and have a good job I don't think age factors in much until you're probably 35 or so.
Attractiveness of women in the eyes of men is pretty much a naturally given thing. Most young chicks are attractive then quickly decline by 20 and crash by 30. Attractiveness of men in they eyes of women is largely a thing that can be trained. Except for height, which is a huge factor. But even if you are short you can learn to exude a certain aura and push the right buttons so women find you attractive. Men in their 30s and 40s can be super attractive to women, but most men grow a belly, don't groom themselves.
He doesn't understand stats at all and just says things at face value. He left off things like physical attraction being THE ONLY THING that matters up to a point and then is heavily diminishing. He also left out that age isn't tied to fertility as much and really doesn't matter in it if itself for mn, it's just about what you've accomplished by then/how good you still look.
@@txdmskexactly, that's why this black pill stuff annoys me. It's basically operating like wmn thinking their smv is given. No, it's 20% given and 80% earned outside of extremes. Vice versa for wmn
Actually, generally women are more attractive after 25. That’s when you have standards, style, confidence, education, maybe 1 relationship behind (I have had 1 bf this far, I don’t date casually) frontal lobe developed - same goes also for men or should be expected. But hear me out: Men want to put women in boxes, tell what’s their value and control them. Don’t fall for that. No one should do that for anyone. Older men target young women because they’re easier to manipulate. Stay safe girls and don’t waste your time on men and dating, develop yourself, your skills, education, friendships, family, travel, yourself, your hobbies and interests - invest only in healthy and kind men who want to grow and be good to you. This whole attractiveness thing is so superficial.
Great and true video. I got mostly all of this info from experience dating women during 10 years of college/grad school and also simply listening to what my ex-gfs told me about what women talk about at the wineries and girls nights out when the drinks start flowing. Case in point: never trust what a woman says she wants in a man - look at who they hookup with, cheat with, flirt with at work or the gym and swipe on when no one is looking.
Amazed that any of this is surprising. This is exactly what I saw growing up. You learned who the attractive guys are in your friendship group because girls would happily dole out the sexual favors. Strangely the same woman who ended up with those guys are now "checking in" decades later as they see fortunes change of more intelligent males. Would be great to be that percentage of male that is physically attractive, a nice guy and intelligent. There are lots of them and it feels so unfair 🤣
I'm 75 and I still haven't peaked
Maybe it was too low to have one anyway
Its funny when you are a 2/10 you were never worth anything
Bravo!
I'm 50+ and still a virgin.
@@rswow Dude, just pay for it.
I love how sincerety is so unimportant to women it's probably a turn-off
Yeah it was so small, but its the first they bitch about, they are such hypocrites
Women want to be lied to. Tell them that they are beautiful even if they are not.
@@Novusod What I have always found weird in women's friendships is that they will lie to each other all the time. I never understood it. Like "no, youre so pretty!" to their friend Gorlox the destroyer type person. My friends literally point out to me ive gained weight and im just like "ah sh*t, true" and I go back to the gym.
They love Chads.
@@jeepeedurocher😂 gorlox the destroyer
My cope is summed up best by a quote:
“Chase butterflies and you’ll never catch them. Build a garden and then they’ll come. Even if they don’t, you’ll have your garden”
Loving it.
People don't want to be with somebody who. needs someone else to complete themselves or their life. Build a great life, and someone will want to be a part of it with you.
This is the spirit! Love this! Thank you for sharing!
Now that I'm in my 30s and (thank god) don't have to date anymore, this is the best dating advice I've ever heard
You don't even need to cope, just get off the dating apps and cold approach multiple women (kind of like what you're describing). If they show disinterest, move on immediately. Save yourself the time and energy and her the creep factor. Also, it depends on how much you vibe with a chick (sometimes ones you know)
The attractiveness/age correlation statistics hide a phenomena: the MOST attractive men do peak at 37, but the vast majority of men tank in their 30s, putting on a beer belly and losing muscle, which drives the average curve down.
also attractiveness means better dressed, better shape than in 20s
most guys here have receding hairline and look tired by late20s early30s , i think 20 to 30 its real physical prime after you start aging slowly
@@rafaelamorim3527every men can age like fine wine. But most mens have shitty routines, habits and dont know how to take care for him self. If they would prioritize sleep, food, working out, skincare and mental health and stop doing their bad habits, it would easily double most men’s attractiveness
Hair loss too. Even for attractive men they still look best in their 20's
@@ardianha5346Nah, you can't look better as you age. You can only maintain your looks, soften the decline
as a 27 year old virgin. Out of all my 6 best buddies I grew up with, they are all also absolute virgins +- 2 years my age.
Everyone with their own place to rent, stable job and at least 4 of us are not obese lol.
I can tell what lead to this tho.
-None of us ever gained any visible muscle at all and I wouldnt exactly recommend modeling to anyone either.
-Most of us work in tech, went to school in tech, studied in tech, so > or < 0 female friends or contacts built over the years.
-We never went to drinking parties either.
-We gamed a lot, so even less time spent in public.
I think if I had to actually try avoiding women any harder, I wouldnt know what more I could do heh.
I think clueless type of guys like us only avoided extinction historically because we got carried by arranged marriage honestly.
Yes, which was smarter than today. Dating is a scam and people fell for i. You need to spend a bunch of time and resources for it while time ago it was easy since you got someone anyway and back than all women where nice and beautiful
You would have been the ideal husbands, unless woman wanted a fun partnernimstead of a reliable husband
If you know your problems why don't you change them
@@danicruz226cause they aren't problems. It's the path for success, while playing around leads to pregnancies when you aren't even capable of providing. What is he supposed to change? The dating market of the west itself is the only reason for the population collapse. This is why arranged marriages used to exist.
@@danicruz226 Have you ever heard people say "I'm going to start going to the gym this year, and lose some weight as my New Year's resolution!"?
That's basically the reason. Establishing the habit of doing things with other people requires time, effort, and satisfying pre-requisites.
It's not a switch you turn on, it's a full-blown lifestyle change. And people like me tend to be both reactive to the environment, as well as having a history where our ability to initiate and follow through on plans has been paralyzed by training.
for example, it's easy to know that I should "reach out to people" or "join a club", but then I walk outside, and look around, and think "Well this is boring, what am I even doing here", and then turn around, walk back inside, do a search, click through the top few website results, fail to find something that looks good, and then get distracted by a youtube video, or a tutorial, or a book, or some video games, or netflix, or professional development, or a remote job, etc...
And then there's the issue that meeting people requires you to know people, or be introduced, or know where to find people on a regular basis in a way where you can be friends. the longer you've been away from that, the more difficult it becomes to get plugged back in. You just loop the same day, over and over, as the years pass by.
All my life I was told to focus on my education and become successful in life. Now I've got a shit ton of money but no women. Couldn't be happier.
Treat life as a game and spend time with women, for gathering moments.. not for future expectations.. you will definitely enjoy it.. I, once went to a movie with a girl, 3 years above my age on a bike.. which I thought was impossible in my life.. one more thing to say, girls also have a dirty mind. They just don't share it with anyone.. if you are able to open it.. you may get what you need... 👉👌
Just buy them
🎯 winning formula
Happy at not getting any action?!
@@irgendeinname9256Essentially marriage. You get what you pay for. I'd stay with leasing though....😅😅😅
I'm in my 50s now, and looking back I can say that I got WAY more attention from women of all ages in the decade 35-45 than at any other stage of life.
Absolutely, 35-45 is truly men's prime. The fallacy with the study is that it doesn't take into account that women in their late 20s and early 30s become exponentially more desperate to find a partner while still looking for men older than themselves which results in dating becoming much easier for men between 35-45.
that's probably because you were in a better place.
@@nitroneonicmanit also doesn't take into account that preferences need to be put into context. If a study shows that all other things being equal, mn who use pens are more attractive than pencils... That doesn't say anything about how important it is... Same with height, ya most mn want somebody like 5 inches shorter but most really don't care that much that it matters
@@nitroneonicmanso the reality is that for wmn age, looks, and chastity/baggage are literally what matter. Age especially because of fertility. Their smv is given to them and naturally declines or they ruin it with bad behavior. For mn age matters very little and it's just about working to increase smv. If you're a CEO billionaire who is confident, experienced, wise, and stylish at 22 great but even that guy will probably be better at 32
In my dating life I learned only one thing, white guy asian female works just fine. Don't even try to speak to a Western woman of any age!
dude when im at peak at 25 and still invisible its over 💀
If it happened to me at 30, it will happen to you. Im not attractive yet i got some attention weirdly
the reason they peak at that age is cuz they already had prior experience ffs lol dont think there'll be some blessing from the heavens that turns you into the rizzler at your 25th birthday
It is the average, does not reflect your specific case and a big bunch of men are as attractive (or unattractive) as you at this age. The most important thing inst age at all, but how you look at this age; I guess men at this age just happen to be more physically fit and corrected skin issues they may have had in the pas
Excel in non-physical attractive characteristics then
@@DewiSant-o3y I mean if you aren't physically active people won't be attracted to you. Either find an easy high pay low hour job that allows you to dedicate 20 hours in the gym every week, or work a 50 hour a week job with low pay that keeps you in killer shape.
I chose to be poor af and stay in shape. I miss money but the brainpower that comes with muscles is worth it on a karmic transcendental level.
Still would rather be able to afford to live lmaooo. thats why im voting kamal
I know stats say otherwise but I definitely feel more attractive at 31 than at any point before in my life.
It's an average, so you definitely might be. If you were fat in your 20s and got fit in your 30s you'd probably be more attractive in your 30s.
Did u self improved later in life?Like losing weight or learning fashion or anything like that.
“feel”
I wen on a big self improvement journey and at 29 i look the best i ever have. But i have to admit i was teased for looking very young up to like 24.... now i still have lustrous hair and a good physique and stepped up my fashion game big time.
@@LoveMadeLogical
Basically we can fix modern dating by 1, stop doing causal hookups, 2 stop using dating apps, cause dating apps are cancer, and 3, take of yourself.
And stop supporting it. No using slangs like rizz, baddies, or whatever is part of hookup culture
@@Gnomelander1400 exactly bro, like Women are people too.
@@Velociraith1Women are people too, but so are children so what's your point? Men and women are different so act accordingly and don't take them all that seriously especially in a dating market which is designed to screw you over as a man.
@@GigaNietzsche Ain't no way you just brought children into a conversation about ADULTS DATING! That's really flippin weird. Also my point is that the goal of dating shouldn't be just sex, aka what's perpetuated by social media, hookup culture and especially dating apps. All these things tend to make us objectify women or see them mainly as objects for sex more than people. The point of dating should be to create a connection with another human being. We call that a relationship. After we have that connection, then physical intimacy follows. In the modern world we've flipped that on it's head and now physical Intimacy comes before a strong connection. It's messed everything up. Since you seem a little bitter, and I don't blame you, try this. Get off the internet, get off porn, get off video games and live in the real world for a while, say a year or more. And if things still suck, fair enough, you have every right to complain. Otherwise, kindly please think before you speak. Thank you. Stay Humble 👊
@@Velociraith1 You're not very bright are you? My point is that sure women are people. But so are the elderly, children, lepers, queers, etc. Many people are people but that doesn't mean we're all the same or we're all equal. Far from it. If you treated women EXACTLY how you would treat men they would HATE it.
I think the golden age for men is between 25 and 40. If a man eat healthy, works out, and doesn’t have hair loss, he can still look good and be attractive past his 40s.
physical prime: 18-35
working prime: 18-45-49 ish.
Yea am gonna go for surgery , cuz it's my decision . Dont argue with me Society and God!??!
You are right about eating healthy food and working out but you all need to stop obsessing over hair loss, it's not that big of a deal. Men like Dwayne Johnson and Jason Statam are considered to be absolute chads. A woman with small tits can still be super attractive, same goes for bald men.
But you are not responsible for hair loss though …
Well, you might also want to lose some hair in places. Approaching my 30s, this new back hair really sucks.
I am 27 and in a happy relationship with a foreign woman 3 years older than me. I have had my fair share of relationships throughout my twenties. All but one of them were great, and I have a lot of appreciation for women in general. But, here is what I have observed throughout theory and practice:
1. This is the most important one: Women are herd animals much more so than men. If the herd - women as a whole - keeps affirming that a Danny Trejo rather than a Henry Cavill is the peak of male attractiveness, individual women's attraction to the Danny Trejo type will increase at least a bit, even if that isn't their generally preferred type.
2. This also explains phenomena such as women breaking up with their boyfriends because one of their female friends talked trash about him.
3. Women care a lot about money and are willing to tune out many of their other sexual preferences if the man is rich. This also goes back to the herd animals thing, because status and the doors he can open for her matter more than "visceral" attraction, let's say.
4. Point 3 is even more striking considering women have a lower sexual disgust threshold, meaning they are grossed out in the bedroom quicker than men are. Money seems to override that, leading to women "closing their eyes and waiting for it to end" with some of those men.
5. Yet, if you yourself - even as someone without money - make yourself as attractive as possible through brains, muscles and grooming, and, more importantly, if you can earn a woman's trust, most of them will let you do some really nasty stuff in the bedroom and enjoy it.
6. A woman has to respect you in order to be attracted to you and for most women, that means you have to be superior to them in some way. Women like to date upwards, hence all the girl-bosses not finding long-term partners. That also explains things like height preferences, status preferences, etc.
7. Even if you have no money and no status, you can get into most women's pants by maximizing your looks and acting like you don't care. Women love bad boy behavior, because, again, it shows a kind of superiority. He is "above things". May not make for a relationship foundation, but is enough to bang, for sure.
8. Women like to be excited, meaning it is good if they have an emotion attached to you. That emotion doesn't even have to be positive; you can be an arrogant prick, as long as you are consistent.
9. That brings us to another important lesson: Men and women judge behavior quite differently. How many times have I thought of a man as an arrogant prick, and how many times were women all over him? How many times did I think of a woman as a self-absorbed bitch, but other women looked to her as a role model? Men, you can't equate women's judgement to your own.
10. Women doubt absolutely everything and it can ruin relationships. No matter how secure you make her feel and how much love you shower her with, she will doubt you and the relationship. There is no sleep in a relationship with a woman, it is a constant hustle.
11. At the same time, if they feel too secure with a man, they will be bored and also consider leaving him. They are always looking for a potential alternative.
12. That means, as a man, you are well-advised to keep her on edge as well, and signal that you are in a relationship with her because it is pleasant and makes you happy, but that can end anytime. For us, as men, that may seem manipulative - it is - and may not come naturally; but it provides her with the sense of latent drama she so desperately needs to stay excited.
13. The dating market is "ladies' choice" - they dictate how it works. For example, I have no doubt that men would be more than willing to date a taller woman - I know I would and plenty of my friends would too - BUT women would not date a shorter man. That is because they want to feel small (aforementioned superiority/status thing); so, men will preemptively say "Oh, I only date shorter women." because, yeah, of course! Because they only date taller men. Men will preemptively say that only shorter women are an option, because they know that taller ones won't care for them.
14. Men, never change for a woman, whether you are in a relationship or trying to adapt to the dating market. Live your life YOUR way. If you change, the women realize they are your superior and lose all respect, and hence their attraction for you. Even if you are downtrodden, outmatched, depressed, whatever - a man who bows down will never be respected by a woman.
15. Women are HORRIBLE communicators, despite what you (and they) have been told. Men are much better at communicating. Passive-aggressiveness, nagging, letting grudges build up ... these are all behaviors that are NOT respected in male culture, but they are defining of female culture. Men get mad about something and explode, they have a problem and they solve it or talk it out. That is a good way of communication. Women nag and think they are "constructively criticizing" the relationship. Most of the time, they have NO idea what they want and feel like talking in and of itself improves things. No. Vapid talk for the sake of talking turns one's voice into white noise. If you talk, communicate something.
16. As partners, women want to feel safe with you, if you can make her feel that way, you are winning. That doesn't invalidate the aforementioned: Never let her get too comfortable, hence bored. You should come across like a dangerous beast that miraculously tolerates and even appreciates her presence. I think women call that "love".
17. Speaking of love, men and women handle that very differently also. Women are much more rational and calculating about choosing partners than men are. Men fall in love, women choose who to love.
18. Try to find a woman with an intact family, including a healthy relationship with the father. A good father has an intensely positive effect on his kids; for daughters, it usually means that they are less prone to this neurotic behavior I mention throughout these points.
19. As we can see in the video, men rate women across a normal distribution. Men, that also means that you should be open to more and less attractive women. I know I've had prettier and less prettier partners. If you can at least find any physical beauty within her looks, think about her personality; there are many pretty women around the world, but how many are bearable for more than a couple of months? If you find a cool, friendly, warm, smart, relaxed woman with healthy values, think long and hard about letting her go because of some crooked teeth. Women reduce themselves so much to their looks that they often forget about having a personality. When those looks fade, what's left? Nah, if you find a good one, think about holding onto her.
20. Women are like cats: They may come to be pet and cuddled and give you all sorts of nice feelings, they stick around and you treat the well, everything is great and could go on like this - and then they leave, for no apparent reason, never to be seen again. Enjoy the time, but don't expect it to last, no matter how much love and effort you put in. Women are chaos and they themselves know it.
TO CONCLUDE: There is a fair share of toxic behaviors in this list. Try to find a good woman that does not bring them to the table and does not bring them out in you. They are rare, but they exist. If you find one, and she doesn't look like a freightliner (on the condition that you don't either), get her and try to hold onto her. Be happy, just remember: They are cats.
Nice comment.
I agree with many points!
Women like cats is a great example.
But I kinda diagree about attractivness.. Bcs looks and youth is very important for us men. But of course sometimes it better to be with a solid 7 than with a 10 who is psycho.
DON'T YOU SHITTALK ABOUT HENRY CAVIL!
Just kidding. Your first point is super important: Human cognition and values are NOT rational. They go through a long list of heuristics, biases and short circuits. One of the strongest of these is a social way of knowing and having values. Women are especially social thinkers. They are VERY easily influenced by their friends and family. If you date a girl and you meet her friends and don't get their approval you are almost likely toast.
I once had a perfect relationship. Everything was amazing. Marriage was on the horizon. Her golddigger sister did not like me. She did not hate me or anything, just did not have a positive opinion about me, mostly because I was thinking about becoming a teacher in order to make the world a better place, and teachers don't earn much. Over the course of just a few weeks sis brainwashed my fiance into breaking up with me.
Joke is on her though, as today I have beautiful kids and far more money I know how to spend, meanwhile she is almost a hobo with no kids, old and ugly.
you couldn't have summed it up more perfectly , if you don't mind me asking how did you make sure your current partner isn't subject to any of the things you mentioned in your comment
Judging from your list, you must have been dating 12 year-olds so far. 😂
Fking youtube pretty much deletes every 2nd comment one makes in this topic including my replies to this wall of text. I'm shocked your comment stayed. It probably caused a memory overflow in whatever algorithm was trying to figure out if you are going against TH-cam's ideology.
The entire video refers to ONLINE dating and in reality, only to clicking but not to who really ends up with who.
You should point that out more clearly. It's not what most people are interested in life. They don't wanna hook up with someone new all the time. They want to find a person they can see regularly, so it's more about how to be attractive for 3rd and 4th date. Stats will change massively. There's also data for this.
This data has also been reviewed thousands upon thousands of times by better content creators. Not sure why this video was even made
But as previously said, online dating IS reality. It's the reality now. Most couples start off online. And their online habits affect their irl habits as well. And they don't have to want to hook up with someone new all the time. Wanting to hook up with someone new every once in a while is enough to ruin any relationship, which is why it's much more difficult to have a healthy relationship lately. Relationship quality tanked with the advent of online dating.
Who really ends up with who is also affected by online dating, because women end up with some dude that doesn't come even close to her online dating induced fantasies, and she'll never be happy with that guy, dooming the relationship in the short to mid term.
@@PepsiFuture can you share a link? Of the best one. Much appreciated
@@mrkiky still, the relative importance of the traits shown in the video are different outside of online dating. If I pay for a prostitute, I'll also look less for a high IQ compared to looks.
I was getting A LOT more play from dimes at age 30-33 than I was at 25-29. I would say men’s peak is definitely in the early 30s.
25-35 is prime, before that most men even have money to date properly
38 is prime. Source "corn" site data. Women peak is 25
Its probably why its the only time of my life i got approached by à 23 yo girl and another 18 yo girl. It was never because i was actually attractive. I just "peaked". This is one of the funniest yet saddest things ever 😂😂😂. Im 33 now and im back to "normal" 😂😂😂...
My guy, this is the average. It's not "100% of men peak in their 20s"
Curious, what’s your height, fitness, rough attractiveness, lifestyle, and income (roughly).
Not doubting you do well. More so that you may be an exception. Ex. I don’t doubt the 38 yr old, handsome fit, 6ft director of Marketing making $200k will thrive into his 30s.
In my early 20s, I really wasn't considered attractive. Most women didn't see me as dating material. Now, in my late twenties approaching 30, let me tell you things have changed. Complete 180°. Finished my engineering degree and started lifting, literally around 70% percent of women I engage with or encounter on the streets flirt with me, subtle or direct. Feels weird because I am basically still the same nerd that gets anxious easily. So quite hilariously I can't really take advantage of this.
You can. Just choose and take one step at a time.
That's why 35-45 will truly be your prime. I'm telling you, I went through the same thing almost verbatim.
i bet you are not asian)))
You've figured out what works, now you just have to work on your charisma. I have always been attractive, both face and body (I'm 6 feet tall, 195 lbs, lean body mass) but I have an avoidant personality disorder, social anxiety and some depression, so I have the body and looks, but not the charisma.
LOL you're delusional if you think 70% of women 'flirt' with you.
The chart about profession is definitely spot on. When I joined the military I had a girl I was friends with comment about my uniform. She said, "that poor uniform..." I asked her what she meant, and she replied, "Its going to be all over the floor when I am done with you." That was definitely a confidence boost I wasn't expecting that day. 😆
Service, hospitality, and labor being so low is kind of unfortunate though. Those people are the backbone of society. People thank me for my service all the time, but its these people who have my thanks. And I truly mean that, as I've gotten older, and my previous career has taken its toll, these people have been a Godsend.
In my experience, the better you are for society the worse off you are treated...
@@NelsonGuedes
If you are good for society then you are an outlier and people hate outliers, they hate their betters. Society is a giant bucket of crabs.
Even profession is subjective. Since I don't make any distinction between a soldier and a serial killer, I would never get involved with a military man no matter how jacked they are. I don't support war pigs in politics or dating. Values trumps appearance.
@@NelsonGuedesYes. Teachers are also a prime example. What could be more important than preparing the next generation to.take over?
@@RC-eb5hqmost teachers are useless or indoctrinators
I generally agree with the divorce graph, however one thing to keep in mind is that because of current divorce laws women are often net takers in a divorce, which makes divorce a somewhat more palatable option for them. Women get primary custody of children far more often, get spousal and child support far more often, typically contribute less to marital wealth and thus get cash they didn't work for, and more often get to remain in the marital home. Because of this, the downside risk for a woman in a divorce is far less.
This is why usually men are the one who ask women to marry them. If hookup culture has high risks for women, bc they might end up getting pregnant and 100% responsible for being the caregiver and the breadwinner for that family; divorce culture present a higher risk for men, since a lot of the families still see the man as the breadwinner and the woman as the caregiver exclusively. However, the risk is always higher for women when there's children involved: if the woman used to have a job and has a kid, there's a high chance she'll live her job at least in the first 2-5 years of the kid, if not forever, which creates a huge experience gap in a woman's career and makes her financially dependent to men, or, at least, it becomes more difficult for her to get a job. I think it's only fair that if men can call their's a child to who they contributed 1% into growing, women can call their's their husband's belongings as well.
If that was true, women in same sex marriages would be less likely to divorce than women in single sex marriages, but that is not the case
@mujtabaalam5907 Agreed. I can't find any other reason that explains this other than women are generally more emotional and thus more likely to initiate divorce. If anything, same-sex females should have even higher chances of divorce.
@@revenger211 it is, just like in same sex men marriages cheating is more common than other scenarios
And they do. Lesbian couples have higher incidence of divorce than straight couples.
And then there’s the outliers. I’m 47 and in the best shape of my life. Happily married for 13 years and getting told I’m aging like fine wine. I get more attention than I ever did in my thirties
My wife was loveliest in her 20s and hottest in her 40s. In our sixties we laugh a lot together, Find a love in your 20s- make it work. You may have to travel. Toys and "freedoms" are dust.
Many people nowadays can't find anything, that is datable in their twenties
You got a better chance of winning the lottery than finding love like that.
You use hottest instead of beautiful to describe your wife. I don’t trust you
How many kids do you have?
“Hottest in her 40s”
My God, the crap people come up with to cope with monogamy.
This works for 1st dates only, then you meet and find out there is absolutely no chemistry. Looks will only take you so far. I speak from experience.
Ya he's wrong. Studies are clear that there's a looks threshold where that's the only thing that matters. Then it becomes about everything else and looks take a backseat
yeah, looks will only get their attention, but your overall status, personality, money situation, etc is what determines if she will keep seeing you or not.
Looks don't take u far if the girl is at your level w looks or higher. But if she's even 1 or 1.5 below (10 scale) oh boyy looks give u wings my friend 🪽 those women will even say they'll "wait for you' if you say emotionally u can't commit 🤫
The chart about females vs males max attractiveness is a good base, but still not showing the full truth.
If men were completely free to choose without any legal and societal restrictions, they would choose even younger females partners as other, older data has shown.
Still, great video again and keep up the awesome work!
The OkCupid data cuts off at 20. It's definitely likely women's prime it stretches down to at least 19, probably 18.
up to 10% of men would choose girls as young as 9
Exactly, trust no one, there are monsters everywhere.
@@zackdrake8735 trust is the bedrock of society.
@@zackdrake8735monsters? It’s just biology lol
Dating an attorney / lawyer was the most stupidest thing I ever did.
Never date anybody who wants to be right all the time, has the mental arsenal to win every argument, and - in the end - can even use their job against you professionally.
I'd like to hear from women who find lawyers attractive why they do.
(In my case, the lawyer was the woman, so maybe male lawyers are different.)
Maybe I'm just being vulgar, but some people will just think the other person as a wallet so it doesn't matter what spew out of their mouth as long as the money flows.
The status of telling her girlfriends how her man is the big, big lawyer guy. The status of him always being well-dressed and of course the perceived high salary.
Other to that job: doctor (healer), firefighter (real man), police man (good guy + fit + uniform) and pilot (traveller) are the archetypical jobs women love to see. Not to forget CEO of something (commanding people while earning a looooot).
Just to drive home the point; law is a career that attracts Psychopaths and narcisists. As does politics. (No surprises there). So the chances of getting a really troubling person are higher.
Last one is a proof why the reason a marriage doesn't work is more bc of the woman and not the man
could also be seen as men are more willing to put up with a shitty relationship than women🤷♂. Depends on how you look at it.
@@LoveMadeLogical Men value loyalty a lot more, and it shows.
Maybe the woman is the only one who has the balls (hehe) to actually communicate that they’re not happy with the relationship? Men are notoriously shunned for being emotionally vulnerable. Easier to let it fizzle out and not admit defeat than it is to admit you’re wrong and find a solution better for BOTH.
@@LoveMadeLogical yeah
@@joeyc9705 if a woman is not happy with the relationship is already over in her mind while the man choses to try to fix it
The biggest problem no one speak about..
The biggest issue that often goes unmentioned is how men rate women based on pictures. Typically, women spend at least 30 minutes applying makeup before taking these photos.
Without makeup, a woman's rating often drops by around 2 points. As a result, men's ratings of women without makeup closely resemble how women tend to rate men overall.
So we are equal for attractiveness.
Asking women what they want is always a losing strategy
Note that these observations are predominantly driven by US data. Results would be significantly different from other cultures.
Yeah.
Age difference matters less in other parts of the world.
@@perfectbeatwrong. Women are still viewed as expired milk past the age of 40, regardless of culture!!!
@@perfectbeat I mean yeah, in other countries they might not even get that far..
@@otaviotisikawa2594what does that even mean? The only reason the age gap thing is such drama in the West is because of progressives trying to manipulate mn into settling for leftovers
@@otaviotisikawa2594wdym? USA life expectancy is what, 75 years? Europe is 83-85, Japan, Korea etc. is 85...
Women give me way more attention at 41 with a ring, two little kids, and haven’t touched a weight or done cardio in years than they ever did hitting the gym 5-6 days a week in my 20s.
"Preselection is a principle which dictates that women are more attracted to men that seem attractive to other women. The term “attractive” is quite relative. For example, if you’re constantly around women, it applies; if you’ve got a lot of pictures with beautiful women around you, it applies; if you’re talking to a beautiful woman and she looks like she’s having a good time, it applies; if you’ve got a girlfriend, it applies. Basically, if attractive women see you NOT getting rejected and that you’re OK in the presence of other equally attractive or more attractive women, they will be attracted."
Low quality women, yes. Is that what you want?
They like to destroy as they are negative within, your life is a prime target
@@user-gr1io9is3v No. Just that there's nothing sexier than an man who.can commit and participate in raising kids. Any animal can breed and reproduce. Takes an aware, evolved man to rear and guide children and be faithful to their mother and an example for the home.
@@RC-eb5hq i will settle with a bit of both
Step 1: be attractive
Step 2: don't be unattractive
This is a hard pill to swallow. But it's all true. When you're 18, you feel like you have all the time in the world for dating. But the years begin to zoom by as you fall into a routine. And the older you get, the faster time is perceived to go by. I always said "I'll worry about it another day." Well, today is that day I always put it off for.
I'm 33 now and I still feel nowhere near ready to even try dating. My value is not where I want it to be and I don't yet feel truly happy and satisfied with myself to even consider sharing my life with somebody else.
Maybe one day. But until then, I just continue walking past all these women, not even batting an eye at them.
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I am 42 now and I identify myself with what you said in my old days.
Now I might consider myself ready for sharing my life with someone but there is a thing, I feel really confortable the way life is now, less work more time and not too bad in the wallet, plus it is crazy to consider the size of the risk that a relationship brings to a man and then I decide to just live another day being myself and the way it always worked for me.
When you are older it is harder to restart in life if a trusted person decides to ruin your life for whatever reason she might come up with. At this age, I feel that I am too picky, enough to acept and carry on life my own way.
Just my experience here, hope that helps and I wish the best of luck with whatever decisions you take.
Peace...
@@du4lstrik3 that’s a terrible mindset. People like yourself will end up with major regrets late in life because you wait for the perfect moment that will never arrive. You have to take the risk, or you’ll never your desired destination. Hopefully you come to that realization sooner than later
@@siddsunil3731 I mean I certainly jump on opportunities if they present themselves. I'm not shy when it comes to women. I just don't work the field and actively try to seek them out.
@@du4lstrik3 exactly my case. 34 here and its been a long timz since i look at women who are considered attractive. What is the point to be interested in what is not interested by you ? My friends do not seem to understand my point.
When they finally graduate into nesting mode, women value security, resources, and stability. Security is tied into the physicality of the man. If a man stays in shape and is halfway intimidating to other men, he doesn't drop off until his health does. That can be as late as the 60s.
I am SHOCKED that there are any jobs less attractive than unemployment. I honestly don't even believe the data, there has to be some major errors.
It’s not the jobs that are unattractive, it’s the perception of the men in them
@@serbu4169 yeahh, alex from target, who worked as a bagger, became famous and drooled upon cuz hes attractive
chad could be working in the sewers (unlikely) and still smash most women.
Sometimes it's better to say you're between jobs, job searching, or exploring new options rather than picking the lowest status option out of the gate
Oh, this is not surprising at all. It is obvious for those of us who are not sleepwalking in this world. Basically, if you are a garbageman, women deem you to be a garbageman forever. If you are unemployed, there is still some hope that you are making money somehow, or will do in the future. I know a really low quality guy who used to be a bus driver, but women hated it. They considered it a loser's job. So he started selling drugs and women L-O-V-E-D it. Absolutely loved it. Ugh, don't take it as a career advice.
The revealed preferences basically reflects how much they can KNOW about the man's attributes AFTER ONE DATE. They definitely know what he looks like, reasonably good handle on fun, so on down to no real idea about sincerity. It's not the woman's long-term weightings.
You may well be correct; I hadn't thought of that. Good point.
Plenty of young women like older men. Maybe not the majority, but plenty do. Don't ever be intimidated by the disgusting social pressure against age gaps, just be discreet and don't let people know about it.
Plenty of women like rich older men .. but - heads up - it isn't you're sex appeal or enhanced vitality
@@jp7357 "rich older men" versus men who are 10-20 years older. Two different concepts. He was denying that girls at their peak are attracted to men in their 30s. It's not just about money, if it were, they wouldn't have been attracted to me.
This is truly an online phenomena. In the courting before the internet, there was proximity only, and safety mattered. Like in other less developed countries a man can be seen as a protector if the police and government are corrupt.
I agree with the bit about online, its a bit fake, the fact is we probably had more successful marriages in the past because we met people in real life and really got to know them, generally they lived near us and had grown up with similar values and in the same environment, so we could relate to each other better. Just a thought.
You really are the most balanced and grounded in reality of all these "pill" channels and pill adjacent. Not bluepill thinking that looks dont matter and women don't lie, not too redpill thinking that mens primes are mid to late thirties, and not too blackpill thinking that looks is all that matters (it matters the most tho)
Just trying to see the world as accurate as possible, and hopefully convey that in my content.
@@LoveMadeLogical Brilliant work, hope you keep posting. You should turn some of your newsletter pieces into videos
@@Twohandpair I'll get to the popular ones eventually, it just takes me forever to film/edit the videos lol. It's why I started the newsletter in the first place.
The blackpill never fails. Looks is E V E R Y T H I N G. Any other reasoning is just a cope
@@topy706 it also helps to know if its worth it to be interested in women (in correlation with your looks) or just forget about them. My looks cant afford to desire them, so i let myself forget about them. Most of the time, im not even looking at goodlooking women. And my friends dont know why im not interested anymore. They are in disbelief
This is ALMOST accurate. In the real world, it just keeps getting better and better for guys over 35 who want LTRs, if you have your act together. The reason is because the guys who are in shape, make good money, etc. and want LTRs are all married off before 40. So for a woman 30+ or 35+ who wants to date or get married, almost all the guys she will meet or see on dating apps are unsuitable guys (fat, poor, etc.). Women's preference will also start to shift significantly away from looks toward provisioning and husband/father traits over 30. So the kind of women you can pull over 30/35 for LTRs keeps improving if you are a suitable guy as you age. The problem with Tinder data is it's all centered on hookups, so of course it's looks and status.
I was over 50 the first time a really attractive woman came on to me outside of work. She was 22. YMMV.
Were you rich at the time?
@@DavidZ4-gg3dm No. Unfashionably dressed in a group of higher-earning dudes. I'm 6 feet tall and was the most masculine of the bunch (corporate drones). Beyond that, I have no idea what made her willing to struggle with her considerable approach anxiety to take her shot.
@@jabba0975 daddy issues most likely
Dating. Are you kidding me? Compared to my best years in broadcasting at age 32, I have lost maybe 15% of what I had in objective attractiveness. I also have no debts, pay no interest, and run my own company. People think I'm in my early 50's, but I'm 72. Do you think most single (not divorced) women anywhere near my age could keep up with me, either in the bedroom or on a 5K run? I think not. The ones who could keep up would think that I am "grandpa old." So dating? Naw. No surprises in those graphs for me. I'm just waiting for the trumpet. Now, if guys like me were all A list actors...well, there is a different standard for those men, and we all know it.
As I have gotten older, the way I view attractiveness has changed. Mostly I care about a person who has the same values and someone who can communicate effectively. Looks are not a high priority at this point.
As a 29 year old guy that worked out regularly since like 18 and earlier, looks do matter, a lot of girls i've been with had a really positive reaction to my body and looks, so yeah, the most obvious way to be more attractive is to just be more physically attractive, good diet, good training plan, dress nicely, have your hair in order.. But other than that i feel like girls are much more interested in me since i started working 4 years ago and i started making a few times more than the average salary, it's not obvious at first of course, i'm not by any means rich, but it's obvious when they find out that i earn more, that they get more interested as well, it's a status thing, but also my confidence is higher so they pick up on that as well
Take it with a grain of salt. You have more status and wealth generally as you get older as a man so you will be a more attractive option for a women especially long term as you age if you stay fit etc as women look for better lifestyle. You have to be that type of men though.
peak for men is like 20 until late 30s. after 43, dating is sht for men.
Yeah but as you get older the women get more ran through
I got approached at 30 (i never was attractive) and i have no status whatsoever.
@@adrianbunea2006yes. So all of this is not worth it
@@SquallSZ yep. If you're not born pretty, tall, and go to the gym, just get used to the idea that all you're getting is Chad's leftovers
Well done sir, you’ve helped change how i view dating. Finally a click-bait title that actually delivers.
why? you shouldn't even listen to this. just play your cards right, take what you can get.
Im legit a 26 year old virgin and have never had dating options. Ironically according to this video, i should be having the most amount of options currently but i dont have any at all. Kinda crazy
Why do you think you've been struggling?
You look young for age? When I was 26 I looked 16 on a good day.
@@LoveMadeLogical that's a good question! I know as a teenager I was shy so I think that was the main reason. However once I turned 20, I was no longer shy but I kept getting rejected. I think alot of it is that I'm never in a conducive environment for dating. For example, I'm in med school with 30 students with women who already have bfs. They aren't open to set up guys either. So I'm just not in a great position currently
it's obvious, but try to gym-max, face-routine-max, socialize more (not necessarily with women, just to increase the social circle), pursue some goals outside of a job
acording to this video, it will only get worse from now on 💀
Having watched this video I feel like it just reinforces everything we typically assume about men and women. It doesn't really chagne how I see dating because most dating these days is skewed by an algotythm of an app in the online dating stratosphere.
I'm so glad I enjoy being alone, no big desire to be in a relationship with anyone. I've never been happier!
MATH DONT LIE, THANK YOU FOR THIS TRUTH
8 charts that show it's too late for me. lol
You and me both brother lol
Getting "Supreme Gentlemen" vibes from this fella.
real. the fact that its presented so well and in a nice package is making it rise in the algorithm. but its just a nicely packaged piece of rubbish
The quality of this video is definitely something I was not expecting - and although some of it seems to be known from prejudices, seeing the actual data is mind blowing!
301k visits and only 10.6k suscribers!
people are so silly.
This guy is an incredible content creator!
Thanks man
Thought the same thing.
Best advice is to start looking for a wife/husband in early twenties... and hopefully find a compatible one by 30.. and start a family.
Pretty much.
Not if you don't want marriage or kids.
@@DavidZ4-gg3dm True. But you clicked on this video because you're curious about dating. The natural goal of dating is marriage.
Men's attractiveness is based on their ability to provide and protect and navigate the world. That is 40-50. A woman's attractiveness is based on how navigable her body is, that is 20.
It used to be that way, but things changed. Women can now mostly provide for themselves.
Most attractive women in their 20s are dating someone within 10 years of them. I want to say 3-7 is the norm.
31 here dating a 22yo. it's awesome
jeremy meeks mogs this argument
@@sgs8747 women can get a paying job, however they still want a man to provide for them or one that has an influx of resources to do so. Not only that many women are in debt and not in well paying jobs to begin with.
Bruh, ur clearly regurgitating bs here. I can see where ur comming from lol
I love how clear and logical your approach is.
Based on the low sub count and some other things, I was initially expecting this to be some low-quality AI bot content farm video, but it actually turned out to be an astonishingly informative and well-evidenced video presented by a real person.
For my generation, the key to success was to reject the lie and resist the pressure to work hard and sign it all away for the betterment of the better half of society. Choosing to be anything other than a sacrificial utility could cost you friends and family not to mention society will try to take what you're unwilling to give of your earnings. Young men today are unaware how fortunate they are not having to choose what most men can't or face the truth most men won't while keeping your friends and family. They can't fault you for you're an eager lamb desperately awaiting slaughter but society will because the alternative can't be. I hope some of you take advantage of the current circumstances because you're going to face society's wrath for the choice that was made for you.
Incredible that humanity has been able to reproduce until now ...
Eh. Humans rarely reproduce. Generally it is subhumans that do the breeding.
I mean, arraged marriages were a prevslent thing... just sayin'
@@vaeldsable not really. This just shows how good we are at it. Women don't want to reproduce with unfit males, just like any other species.
Women weren't asked anything.
Feminism is the last stage of civilization before it collapses.
A man's physical prime is definitely 20-30 years of age, but the reason why some men 30+ arguably do better than men in their "prime" years is because of status and wealth in combination with their still decent looks.
Take it from a financially succesful 27 yo virgin,
Its better to have a house than a girl.
How do you know, you haven't had a women?
I definitely got the most play in my early and mid 20’s in despite even moving to NYC in my early 30’s where everybody is screwing around and partying a lot compared to most other places. However I will say my *overall* social life was never richer or more intriguing than it was in New York…a high concentration of interesting/dynamic people live there after all. But back to getting laid and hooking up, a couple of things happen. By the time you’re in your early to mid 30’s a lot of your weekend partying buddies have settled down and are shopping at Walmart on Saturday night with the future ex-wife. Also you get a little pickier and mellow out a little. You’ve (hopefully) got other focuses that take more of you time and energy to where ending up in some random chicks bed and with a disgusting hangover the next day doesn’t quite have the allure that it used to.
I'm 39 year old white guy, 180cm always went to the gym 3 times a week, ate healthy, no receding hair line. Not very outgoing or social, but I do chat up the odd chick at the mall. I am still bedding chicks in their late 20s without a problem and i have higher standards now than I did in my 20s too. I feel like I haven't peaked yet.
You haven't and it will continue for another 15-20 years.
Culture has a lot to do with mating. Back in the 1950s, there was a lot of pressure on both men and women to get married and have children. Homosexuality was only practiced in secret. Gender preference was extremely rare. People did what they were expected and pressured to do. So a lot more people got married, even though many didn't end up happily ever after. Today there is still some pressure, especially from parents, to get married, but the culture has totally changed. Sexual preference is now open. The rise of social media has reduced person to person interaction and dating. It seems to have led to some of the preferences seen in those graphs. As a happily married 60 something male, I sure am glad I am not starting out in my 20s today. I don't think I would have ended up where I am today.
I’m 28 and 18 year old women like me even more now than when I was 20. I look younger than my age though
It is an average. You may be an exception.
@LoveMadeLogical idk I've seen a good amount of men in their 30s even early mid 40s who say they have more attention from women than they did in their 20s
Lots of me let themselves go
@BryWMac yeah that's what I'm thinking. Most people hear 30 or 40 and they think of some guy who's fat and bald or at least Norwood 2. They think of some man who's more in his 40s or 50s but 30 even 35 isn't that different biologically from 25. I think that range can be pushed at least a bit further up if they exercise, eat well and get plenty of rest.
@@supermonk3y07 My experience and that of most of the guys I know is that we were almost invisible until our thirties. Not much has changed career or personality-wise, it's like we just weren't old enough for women to take us seriously
To add in, even in a non-romantic setting attractiveness biases exist. Which means you get treated worse if you're less attractive just out and about doing regular daily things.
I am objectively the most attractive now that I am 35 as I am much more muscular and cut than ever before, without losing hair or showing any other typical "old" traits
And still I struggle much more to find a sexual partner than ever before.
I think age is a factor by itself. Disregarding my otherwise better looks, just the fact that I am older makes me less attractive.
That is definitely a problem for some women, but perhaps you are not as tall or confident or are missing other traits that women find attractive.
Keep in mind that height is by far the most attractive thing for women.
@@txdmsk I'm 6'2" so that's not an issue for me.
Can’t tell if one is older if you look good 😅
@@txdmskFemale here and I LOVE short guys!
This is really strange! A 35 is a young man.. maybe you are just looking for in the wrong places
Problem with all of this data is that it comes from people who suck at dating and after to resort to online match making.
I think people on a dating website are preselected. If you are really good looking and successful, you might be able to find a partner offline, you do not even need to go to such a website. I understand that doing this is way more common than 20 years ago, but if data comes from online sources only it might not show the whole truth.
Extremely preselected. The highest user rate of any nation is about 30% and the ratio of male to female users is, on the app with the highest user rate, somewhere around 7:1, and that is likely _overestimating_ the female user rate.
Women who can get the men they want largely do not use dating apps and the men who use dating apps are largely men who cannot get women and a small number of men who both want and can attract a disposable harem. These statistics are not representative of the general population but of a few minority (in some cases, extreme minority) subsets.
@@nevisysbryd7450the data is also from when online dating was far less common with a social stigma attached to it.
Yes. Dating apps filtrate us, the uglys and averages. Dating apps are acrually means to facilitate women to access the best men. Which facilitates natural sélection and makes upcoming générations even more good looking. (Which is happening every 10 years. People are more and more good looking).
Personnaly i dont play this game. Its not made for me. This face and this body will go extinct and its fine
@@nevisysbryd7450 Well even with that taken into account. If you view statistics on the number of young adults who are in a relationship you can see that 40% of men are in a relationship. Wheras for women the number is as high as 70%. Which means a few subset of men do indeed have a harem or a lot of women are dating other women.
Yeah the top people don’t use dating apps and wouldn’t find anyone to swipe on, those apps are for the “average” ones who can’t walk into a cafe and meet someone
45 year old lawyer....never had a problem with women when I was younger but I would always approach....now with a grey beard and kids I get women from 25 to 65 approaching me all the time....Im actually shocked at how easy it would be if I wasnt married.
I used to consider myself fairly below average attractiveness and I struggled to get female attention. I've never gone through an extended dry spell though and have always been able to get laid, get a girlfriend, or get dates. Now I'm 34 and buying my first house, make pretty good money, work on my fitness, I do cool shit, have tons of cool friends, and I would consider myself actually average to slightly above average attractiveness now. I still have no problem getting dates and honestly getting female attention seems easier than ever now. I hooked up with around 8 women in the last 16 months and have a current long term FWB. I could definitely be doing worse. 🤷
I provide this just as my anecdote. At the end of the day you can build yourself up and do better. And it's true what they say - success builds confidence. When I was in my young 20s and lacked confidence with women it was harder, but the positive feedback of realizing women actually do like me gives me more confidence to shoot my shot. And now I effortlessly talk to any woman.. Just gotta build yourself up and keep trying. You'll get there
Sounds like you only considered yourself unattractive but actually weren't. Unless those girls were obese or something.
I (34M) can humbly say that I am in the top 5% of men: 6 ft 4, 220 pounds, muscular, long hair, good jawline and beard, etc. Manager at an engineering firm, make great money, fancy sports car, the whole thing. I can assure you that looks are not what women are after. Women want winners (or at least men that show the characteristics of a winner).
1. Confidence and good game.
2. Social circle with other (pretty) women. Try to get a pretty girl to know you talk to her hot friends or acquaintances and she'll definitely put you in a different category.
3. Big one here: status. Try to be known for something special in your area/city. Strong identity is important.
4. Looks.
Above all of these, never quit and take as many shots as you possibly can.
I (35M) can humbly say that I am in the bottom 50% of men: 6 ft 1, 180 pounds, not fat and barely muscular (even though I exercise daily), shaved head (bald), weak jawline and can't grow a proper beard, big nose, etc.
Senior at an engineering firm, make great money, fancy car, the whole thing. I can assure you that looks are what women are after. Women might want winners... after the looks match.
1. Confidence: check. "Good game": well, I make them laugh, but that's it.
2. Social circle with other (pretty) women: check (friends girlfriends mostly). They're actually actively trying to get me a partner, and recently discovering the harsh reality of dating for (bottom) men.
3. Status: check I guess? dunno.
4. Looks: Yeah, totally fail at that one. Makes everything else irrelevant.
Everybody seems to believe they would do better than us ugly fellas in our shoes. It reminds me of really muscular guys in the gym thinking everybody can achieve the same through hard work. Reality is genetics is everything. And that's life. Period.
Looks accurate enough, that's why women like each other more now 😤
As a DBA, that R coefficient is a bit crazy. It's rare to see anything that high in any study, considering 0.7 is considered high in any situation. Even 0.3 is considered a moderate number.
No, the peak of the smv of men is about 38 years, not 26 years!
cope, how many relationships do you see that are 10 years apart. At 38 you can get woman in their early thirties, which are either incapable of relationships, ugly or single mothers.
And it doesn't drop off a cliff either.....this vid is a joke.
This guy is somewhat smart but misses a lot:
Women are attracted to power….
Need to include discussions not of jobs but businesses , jobs hold little power.
The age graph is only useful for the masses . Powerful men throw that off and are attractive to younger women’s
This is false... the problem with this research is that it doesn't account for your potential in your 40s but instead compares against the average person in their 40s.
I get far more attention in my 40s than I ever did in my 20s or 30s. It's a function of how well you take care of yourself, your body game and your perceived social status and hierarchical dominance amongst your peers. I have access to many many more 18-24 year old women than I ever thought possible and it's definitely in part due to my age. A man reaches his sexual attraction peak in his mid-40s assuming he didn't let himself go, is fit, jacked and has experience and access to worldly possessions your younger self never would.
I mean im 6'2" 240 lbs and jacked. I'm not an average looking dude an i make 6 figures so im just saying the potential may be there for some of you and if it is, this research is totally skewed.
Here is your answer, 6 feet 2, good looking. I can't achieve this with my 5 feet 6 crap. I have some some play, when I really try. But it is not attention.
The "I" is the answear you are projecting top 5% as the avg. of 100% you are thinking like avg. woman wanting to get top 1% men.
"Your data is wrong" BECAUSE ITS SUBJECTIVE. Your fucking experience has nothing to do with statistics and averages. And basically stating that you're not only a 6 figure earner but also over 6 foot and jacked means you're delusional, you're top 1% with income and physique combined. You aren't the average and your experience doesn't reflect on the grand scheme of things.
"This is false."
This is data. Get the actual data to prove otherwise, or else your words are essentially meaningless.
You're spot on, I fully agree with you
As a gay man, I’m interested in what the data would be for men and men in terms of age and attractiveness. In the queer community, it’s very common for couple to be extremely different heights, and age gaps. I would say with gay men, they can evolve (including sexual roles). For example can like older men and be passive, but then as get older themselves become more dominant and like younger guys.
Quick FYI about the r value. If you square it, you get the variation it explains. For example, an r of 0.80 explains 64% of the variation (0.80² = 0.64). That means that physical attractiveness makes up of 64% of their positive response
thank you
And by extension, the steongest factor in succes from dating
This is a flawed study, If you are picking out potential mates from only online PHOTOS, then appearance is obviously what you have to go off of! In person, personality, being funny, being caring towards women in your envronment are all factors! Woman that are fun, flirty and smile alot are attractive in person even if in a photo they don't look like supermodels. Also if your just hooking up you are doing it for immediate gratification and the more beautiful the male or female is the more gratification you get. In person there are plenty of beautiful people that are just bad human beings and they would be perfectly fine for a hit and quit, you wouldn't want to date one! I mean if a girl has a drinking or drug problem I don't want to marry them but if they look like Jessica Alba then a ride isn't out of the question!
I'm 29 and I'm a virgin most of my life until 28. I started going to gym in my 27 and it's really game changer for me. Women in my workplace started to approach me because I'm the only guy in my office in twenties and got in shape.
People who have their stuff together enough to work and then put time into themselves like gym, sports, hobbies, interests immediately put themselves into the top 30 percent of potential partners.
Why bother with dating? Play games, browse tiktoks, watch TH-cam - enough, right?
As long as you stay in shape and don't lose your hair, you'll continue to get more attention from women (even women 20-25) as you age. In the US and the West in general, large age gap relationships are taboo, but in the rest of the world it isn't. I'm 40, live in Latin America, and I've never had so many 20-25 year old attractive women into me. I have so much more attention than I had in the US, and I get more attention from women in their early 20's than any other age group. Granted that's the age group that has the most single women.
I agree with most of what you said. It has not been my experience that I did better in my 20s with women. I progressively did better with the ladies as I aged until I hit my early 40s. I believe women initiate divorce more often because it’s simply benefits them more. There’s far less risk and far more reward if they get a divorce and move onto other options.
It baffles me how some broke, 145 pound young guy under 25 is more desired than a muscular, high-earning guy in his early thirties.
She won't feel like she deserves you. Women hate themselves.
probably isn't more desired, those charts are just statistics
Those statistics are problematic: First, attractiveness is largely defined by culture and by local social context. Culture even varies among each social classes, and even among "urban tribes." There are women that loves thugs, and other despise them and love "good citizens". Of course, exist the biological component, but it is entrenched with cultural-social aspects too. Second, there is a difference in what people says and what people does. Ex. younger women wouldn't tell so explicitly that they want a much older man than them (ex. 10+ years older and married), or that they want to participate of gang bangs; older women says that want younger men to date and hook up, because older people tend to be less embarrassed to say what they want. In general, people says what is expected to them to say, so you must take that into account. Third, always must be problematized the sample of people from which those statistics where taken. Fourth, must be taken in account the individual factor of preference, and that makes a "general rule for attractiveness" more even problematic and volatile, because can vary day to day.
If we reduce ourselves to an online commodity via dating apps than, of course, one is reduced to mere superficialities - looks and status. Go outside and meet people IRL. For men, in particular, it turns all the purported "data" on its head. I have two buddies who were absolute legends among women when they were single - both were balding and overweight. One was a barely 5 feet tall. Why? They had an abundance of charm, charisma, and confidence and, no, neither were rich.
The best advice I can give as a 48-year-old man to a young man: (1) Eating vegetables works. Walking a lot works. People routinely get my age wrong by 10-15 years.
(2) The data presented here tells us that most women find most men to be not very physically attractive. But they still date us! This is actually good news: it's the things you can change that matter most (diet, exercise, interests... generally being invested in yourself) when it comes to meaningful relationships. All you gotta do is be better than your competitors, and men generally put so little work into ourselves that that's not THAT hard to do. Leading me to
(3) Read "Models" by Mark Manson: it's the first non-garbage dating book for straight men I've ever seen. Successful dating is not about being dominant, it's about being non-needy; it's not about being smooth, it's about the capability to be vulnerable.
Neuroticism (experiencing more intensely negative emotions) is far more common in women due to our enlarged empathy, which we need in order to read or babies' needs through body language, and also to be the ones who protect them from everything.
Women's feelings are fine. The mistake western society made was to give women so much power. No society in history did that.
Higher neuroticism does not equal higher empathy; it is caused by the amygdala overreacting to stimulus in the environment compared to someone who is low in neuroticism which corresponds with the amygdala not reacting as much or as intensely. This could be a result of genetics or environmental upbringing, but it does not necessarily change in relation to gender. It has more to do with the individual and the beliefs of the individual on whether or not they should self-improve in that area. Empathy specifically is from the anterior insular cortex, which deals with the majority of emotions themselves. They are derived from 2 different parts of the brain and while the parts of the brain can have an impact on each other, neuroticism does not have an impact on ability to feel empathy, however a smaller cerebrum (common in aspd) can cause a lack of empathy and a lack of neuroticism. Whoever told you neuroticism means higher empathy is a quack.
@@Nickel_Coin that's not what I said. I said due to the need of more empathy of women in order to reading babies, women tend to have higher neuroticism, as a maladaptative trait. I'm not at all saying neuroticism causes empathy. Anyways, it's just a theory I heard about. If this isn't an evolutionary maladaptative trait, then, why else would neuroticism be higher in women? (Actually asking)
@@Mrsgmuller73 "neuroticism (experiencing more intensely negative emotions) is far more common in women due to our enlarged empathy" - you. That is exactly what you said omg. Higher neuroticism among a general population (women specifically in this context) is typically caused by a mix of environmental factors and beliefs among that population on whether or not they should improve or not improve on certain areas (learned behavior). There isn't any consistent scientific evidence backing up a reason relating to empathy specifically why women would need to have higher neuroticism; it is most likely a learned behavior due to being constantly told they're under threat of being assaulted etc all the time when growing up as that will cause the amygdala in a developing brain to become larger and substantially more reactive thus resulting in high neuroticism.
>Enlarged empathy
And who said Wmen can’t be funny?
You say at 4:21, “Physical attractiveness is just as important to women as it is for men; women just don’t admit it.”
No, it’s not. For women, physical attractiveness is way more important than it is for men. While we, as men, are totally okay with dating average-looking women, women are only really interested in men who are in the top 10% of attractiveness. That’s a huge difference. The data also clearly shows that they think most of us are ugly as hell.
Women are ok with dating average looking men, just not having casual sex with them. All the data I've seen shows it's basically even in terms of valuing looks. On average of course.
@@LoveMadeLogical Why would they date them if they don't find them attractive?
I am 35. I am screwed. I hope to become a desert monk now lol
Try ASMR .
Unemployed could definitely mean a lot of things that it is not a great data set. Someone who is say a artist or Musician or pursues creative expression who is technically unemployed would probably be more attractive than some dude just dwelling in his parents basement with no job.
artist/musician were on the chart separate from unemployed just not mentioned in the video. I agree that preferably the data would've been more specific(theres a difference between a doctor and a nurse) but you kind of have to work with what you got though when it comes to dating statistics.
A study, "Computational courtship understanding the evolution of online dating through" concludes that women are more selective than men, even for long-term relationships. As for Match, it's mostly used by older women.
I think 25 to 32 is the prime age for men.
23-33 id say
or 17-30
Makes sense. I mean, if you already are pickier for short term, why not go for the extra mile to add the resources
Thanks for reminding me to not even think about dating.
PA matters more in online dating than in real life.
Nah that gap should be way wider in the 30s and 40s. Men peak financially while women hit the wall.
if he were actually opposing the status quo this video wouldn't go viral. TH-cam doesn't allow viral dissent.
As a male I always perceived peak male attractiveness to be likely in the late 30s to early 40s. Whenever they achieve a rugged and masculine look without the baby face but before they harden up so much that they look too weathered. This could be extended well after or happen before late 30s too it’s a range of this “look” that men get. Women’s peak doesn’t abide by the same rules and is based solely on youthful beauty.
At age 30 and beyond, there are no handsome or ugly men. Only rich and poor men.
I am guessing the women are more cautious about picking men because in our society women are often expected to rely on the man more in the relationship.
There's also the fact that if she is sleeping around, then she will get a worse reputation for it than any man regardless of country or culture. (though it is much worse in places outside the west)
Plus, the risk of date-rape is much higher so again, different standards for things like 'don't murder me' this is especially true in my country where women have become scared of dating apps after a string of tinder rape+murders.
Yeah I don't buy that men can't have a prime that sustains much longer than just to 30.
The vast majority of men stop taking care of themselves at 30 especially in a chronically obese country like America. If you're jacked and have a good job I don't think age factors in much until you're probably 35 or so.
Attractiveness of women in the eyes of men is pretty much a naturally given thing. Most young chicks are attractive then quickly decline by 20 and crash by 30.
Attractiveness of men in they eyes of women is largely a thing that can be trained. Except for height, which is a huge factor. But even if you are short you can learn to exude a certain aura and push the right buttons so women find you attractive.
Men in their 30s and 40s can be super attractive to women, but most men grow a belly, don't groom themselves.
He doesn't understand stats at all and just says things at face value. He left off things like physical attraction being THE ONLY THING that matters up to a point and then is heavily diminishing. He also left out that age isn't tied to fertility as much and really doesn't matter in it if itself for mn, it's just about what you've accomplished by then/how good you still look.
@@txdmskexactly, that's why this black pill stuff annoys me. It's basically operating like wmn thinking their smv is given. No, it's 20% given and 80% earned outside of extremes. Vice versa for wmn
Actually, generally women are more attractive after 25. That’s when you have standards, style, confidence, education, maybe 1 relationship behind (I have had 1 bf this far, I don’t date casually) frontal lobe developed - same goes also for men or should be expected. But hear me out: Men want to put women in boxes, tell what’s their value and control them. Don’t fall for that. No one should do that for anyone. Older men target young women because they’re easier to manipulate. Stay safe girls and don’t waste your time on men and dating, develop yourself, your skills, education, friendships, family, travel, yourself, your hobbies and interests - invest only in healthy and kind men who want to grow and be good to you. This whole attractiveness thing is so superficial.
Great and true video. I got mostly all of this info from experience dating women during 10 years of college/grad school and also simply listening to what my ex-gfs told me about what women talk about at the wineries and girls nights out when the drinks start flowing. Case in point: never trust what a woman says she wants in a man - look at who they hookup with, cheat with, flirt with at work or the gym and swipe on when no one is looking.
Exactly. Don't trust what women are saying. Look at the "novels" (smut) they are reading.
Amazed that any of this is surprising. This is exactly what I saw growing up. You learned who the attractive guys are in your friendship group because girls would happily dole out the sexual favors. Strangely the same woman who ended up with those guys are now "checking in" decades later as they see fortunes change of more intelligent males. Would be great to be that percentage of male that is physically attractive, a nice guy and intelligent. There are lots of them and it feels so unfair 🤣