Why Toxic Orb Tatsugiri is BEING ABUSED by PROS! | Competitive Pokemon Analysis

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  • @Azzinothful
    @Azzinothful ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yeah, but wouldn't Dondozo has food poisoning?
    ..... I'll show myself out.

  • @themilkman7921
    @themilkman7921 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Only thing I could focus on the video is wolf’s inability to pronounce Pokémon names.

    • @tbolt__
      @tbolt__ ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I wouldn't call it an "inability to pronounce Pokemon names," I'd call it an "ability to mispronounce Pokemon names"

    • @sonicmoviefan063ez8
      @sonicmoviefan063ez8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doedozo

    • @JesseNightingale
      @JesseNightingale ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Baring new gen 9 mons he purposely says specific names wrong like Decidueye.

    • @coraldelaluna
      @coraldelaluna ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He said tatsugiri right tho

    • @Pao-vo8mf
      @Pao-vo8mf ปีที่แล้ว

      is that his name?

  • @richarajesh1260
    @richarajesh1260 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Wow that strategy seems messed up. Amazing content, keep up the good work!!

  • @dominicrochon5501
    @dominicrochon5501 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Murkrow with haze completely kills this strategy

    • @chompy_YT
      @chompy_YT  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeh that is tru

    • @dragongamer4753
      @dragongamer4753 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doesnt clear amulet prevent haze from working?

    • @dominicrochon5501
      @dominicrochon5501 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@dragongamer4753 No, clear amulet prevents stat drops but haze is a stat reset, not a drop. Haze therefore will reset the stats regardless of Dondozo's item

    • @dragongamer4753
      @dragongamer4753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dominicrochon5501 I saw a clip on showdown so i guess they got it wrong

    • @Kingdom-zu6tm
      @Kingdom-zu6tm ปีที่แล้ว

      Murkrow is also super common

  • @ImCoveredInFoamDawg
    @ImCoveredInFoamDawg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The community: “Omg this strat is op!!!!”
    Prankster Murkrow with Haze: *Allow me to introduce myself*

  • @TylerjWebb
    @TylerjWebb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I LOVE using sableye to burn tatsugiri first turn killing it after endure before Don can switch in. People usually disconnect 😂

  • @user-mx2vw9ep1w
    @user-mx2vw9ep1w ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If you revival blessing the tatsu and come back does ur dozo get +4

    • @muscularclassrepresentativ5663
      @muscularclassrepresentativ5663 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh shit now you're into something. I wonder if rest dondozo with leppa berry pawmot could get it to +6

  • @majinkevinci
    @majinkevinci ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I mean, this is definetively an overlook, it's not a bug, but it's around the same.
    But I like Gamefreak doing botched jobs at implementing new mechanics. It always makes for fun interactions like these.

    • @sofiacalado8836
      @sofiacalado8836 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think this is working within the boundaries of the game, i think implementing damage immunity would be a priority for them if it was the intention

    • @muscularclassrepresentativ5663
      @muscularclassrepresentativ5663 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sofiacalado8836 but they named the ability commander. He isn't commanding if he isn't in there, the whole point is using tatsu's brain. Maybe they left it like this for fun but if it's not a lazy oversight then it does still break the lore

  • @peomaster6914
    @peomaster6914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    back when it was the first weeks of Doubles OU i used to run into many Suicide leads + toxic orb tatsugiri, this strats are way more predictable than it might look so with my Brute Bonnet i could just safely sleep the tatsugiri and then clear smog the dondozo, ik today many use steel type to counter clear smog but i guess it works as well with Haze. Back then i just thought the strategy was really bad since you were sacrificing two pokemons for a broken combo that could get easly countered

  • @cedrichollowell856
    @cedrichollowell856 ปีที่แล้ว

    Explain why cramorant wasn't able to swallow the fish or Pikachu instead of waiting to be hit and return fire. Makes sense now with this mechanic. Imagine cramorant uses dive or surf and then has a fish. Cramorant uses swallow and recovers HP or plus 1 sp attack when swallowing Pikachu. Makes sense to me.

  • @gonzaurra1
    @gonzaurra1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's why Haze Murkrow is dominating

    • @pug8714
      @pug8714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not specifically, just stat raising in general. It and clear smog are just good

  • @just_a_rebel8261
    @just_a_rebel8261 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Poisoned sushi

  • @Manakyn
    @Manakyn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So... Does Dondozo just swallow Tatsugiri? He was bound to eat the boss sooner or later...

  • @JesseNightingale
    @JesseNightingale ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn didn't think the day would come that people would want to actively kill there own pokemon in competitive but here we are lol

  • @startedlizard8678
    @startedlizard8678 ปีที่แล้ว

    And then murkrow uses haze and they cry

  • @skwovetboi_the_squirrel_king
    @skwovetboi_the_squirrel_king ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haze+toxapex: ima bout to end this man’s whole career

    • @chompy_YT
      @chompy_YT  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya this video didn't age all that well 😂😭

  • @NoYouActuallylemao
    @NoYouActuallylemao ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wouldnt the strat get countered if you just dont hit tatsugiri? thats like the first thing that came to mind as soon as i saw it the very first time

    • @StrudelHalfBaked
      @StrudelHalfBaked ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not shown in the clip, but Wolfe has his Annhilape use Final Gambit while Tatsugiri uses Endure. Endure lets Tatsugiri survive on 1 HP, and Final Gambit faints Annhilape which lets Dodonzo come in immediately and swallow Tatsugiri before it faints from poison.

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You mean Endure. Endeavor does damage.

    • @StrudelHalfBaked
      @StrudelHalfBaked ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Smart1529 yep, meant endure. My smoothbrain used the wrong "End-" move 😅

    • @lemguins7031
      @lemguins7031 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the other half of the team does follow me, wide guard, destiny bond, rage powder or other diverting moves/abilities it sort of counters that on the momento turn and manual switching on the next turn has top priority besides pursuit which doesn't accomplishmuch on a fodder support. They'd be sacrificing a mon, but You'd need something like arrowkuda's ability or shadow tag or block, to fully ensure disrupting it without potentially being in a worse spot wasting the turn hitting tatsugiri.

  • @SouIworld
    @SouIworld ปีที่แล้ว +20

    its not really busted, you are pretty much gambling with 2 Pokemon slots that you'll be able to bring tatsugiri down to 1 hp before the enemy pummels you or counters your strategy

    • @chompy_YT
      @chompy_YT  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean still tho it is a very viable strategy at least in the beginning of the format

    • @toucanman1372
      @toucanman1372 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just use endevor with a low up fast Pokémon and it just half’s its hp making it really easy to kill

  • @tyvonable
    @tyvonable ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can still counter that strategy and pretty easy too

    • @chompy_YT
      @chompy_YT  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh with murkrow now

  • @GlacierMoonDragon
    @GlacierMoonDragon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Welp Talonflame and Jolteon are going to be killing this strat

    • @toast2492
      @toast2492 ปีที่แล้ว

      How would they jolteon I get with t bolt but why talonflame

    • @GlacierMoonDragon
      @GlacierMoonDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toast2492 Talonflame learns Brave Bird & Tailwind. Jolteon learns Volt Switch, and gets the ability Quick Feet.

    • @toast2492
      @toast2492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GlacierMoonDragon still dondonzo is bulky it can take a hit then OHKO jolteon or talonflame

    • @GlacierMoonDragon
      @GlacierMoonDragon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toast2492 Thats where Gastrodon or a Fairy type come in.

    • @toast2492
      @toast2492 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GlacierMoonDragon I see gastradon but why a fairy type

  • @jayjones4175
    @jayjones4175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is slither wing still banned?

  • @Solkahnart2
    @Solkahnart2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Burn,Poison, or salt cure tatsugiri turn 1 and it'll negate toxic orb and die turn 1

    • @chompy_YT
      @chompy_YT  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Burn, or salt cure but yes

  • @RULERZREACHF4N6146
    @RULERZREACHF4N6146 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think foofootoo was the first TH-camr to use this strategy

    • @chompy_YT
      @chompy_YT  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh was he? Then I apologize for not crediting him

  • @RULERZREACHF4N6146
    @RULERZREACHF4N6146 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toxsugiri

  • @sirarthurkingofbobland4159
    @sirarthurkingofbobland4159 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pros? , ah!.. u mean Fortnite kids born in the 00s that used a rental code?