It sounds like this narcissist was venturing into psychopathic territory. To have no feelings, no capacity to even rationally understand why someone is hurting, to not even care to try signals something is bad wrong or super evil. Also, the baby was inside the mother, so she did touch it, feel it, and know it was there. The relationship with the baby had already begun. That wife needs to run fast!
This is a good way to put it, you're right. This is likely how the narcissist sees every relationship. It's a transaction, and they aim to gain more from it than the other person.
Yes. My brothers wife passed away in January. He hadn't met either of them my brother or his wife. I wanted a hug and I was denied comfort. He said, I didn't know her. This was when I realized he truly lack compassion. He could mirror it, but not genuine sympathy for anything. Just like I was supposed to just get over him being persistent for me to terminate my pregnancy 3 months into our "relationship". After asking me to try. I had prayed for 8 years to have another child. And I was frightened into his needs, over my morals and values. 😢
I bet they'd cry over their next bonus from work ! Never seen it , never held it , knew it was due but it never arrived ! Narcissists are strange people !
A narcissist is borrowing someone elses body, and they have no connection to family because they are a low level demon. I have been dealing with one for 59 years, my own "mother". She has never felt the slightest affection to me.
@@forgiven5919 indeed, it is an ongoing struggle I don't think you are ever totally able to recover from, but you can choose to be happy and give yourself the love and respect you should have been given.
My husband was ANGRY about my miscarriage, a self-pitying "How dare this happen to me, I'm the angry victim" way instead of comforting me who was going through the physical pain and hormone roller coaster. He made me feel like total crap, even though miscarriages are super common, estimated 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. And this pregnancy was an oopsie, at first he was horrified, we already have 1 very difficult child, then he saw this as an opportunity for redemption to make up for his mistakes with the first... and I'm sure he was hoping for a boy this time... but he was LIVID when the pregnancy failed naturally.
Yes, my ex-narc too. I was 7 months pregnant. He started kicking and hitting things. Making it extremely difficult for me to deal with the loss and grief as I had to give my attention to him and calm him down. Making it all about him. All the while having 2 other children with me who he ignores most of the time…
Omg! Many years ago, my NM and stepdad drove from out of state to visit my husband and me. The day before they came, I had a miscarriage and had to have surgery. There were cards on the mantle from people at my church, my NM picked one up that said ‘Sorry for your loss”. She tossed it and said “What loss? All you did was have surgery”. The worst part is that years later, it happened again while they were visiting! She was not gonna let that or anything else ruin her sight seeing vacation.
We were married for 3 years. I got pregnant. The gynecologist asked me to be in the hospital at 8 in the morning. My husband said he can't take me by car to the hospital because he start to work et 6.45. Take the tram - he added. 😢
I had a miscarriage and felt so badly with both emotional and physical pain. He didn't take me to a hospital. What he said was: " Let's go to a fancy restaurant. "....🤢🤮
oh god my narc parent made fun of other women for crying over miscarriages, i was 10 years old and hearing her joke and make fun of her coworker who had multiple miscarriages made me feel sick. Her coworker went off sick because she was grieving and the narc didn't underdtand why it was a big deal. She fell out with her other coworkers for saying this outloud, she said "it's not my fault i could have 4 kids, why". She could not understand why her coworkers would dislike her for her lack of empathy. She didn't understand why the death of a wanted child would be traumatic. She was a horrible person, i'm so happy she is out of my life.
There comes a time of empathy whether you feel exactly like she does or not. It’s like when you’re growing up when you’re playing and you fall down. You feel pain and embarrassment. Your friend starts laughing or says something cruel to you. Your ‘friend’ has no empathy.
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My husband and mother in law(they are Indian) treated me so wrong when I had a miss-miscarriage, I suffered for months after it happened, the pain, the bleeding the emotional stress after realizing I carried them(twins) for months before finding out they had passed. I lost so much blood after that I needed surgery, still treating me like the servant/slave they thought I was. They told me “in India women have abortions and they go to work in the fields the same day” It happened 6 years ago, I still struggle with that. Can never forgive them.
The death of a child is one of the most difficult life experiences one can have. I lost a son when he was 42, just really finding his place in life. Losing a child who never had a chance to even breathe, a child upon which you have placed hopes and dreams, how is that not the same thing? I know mothers who lost a child through miscarriage, and every single one of them has never forgotten about that child, It is your child, a part of you, and a part of your heart, so for that to die is a reason for mourning just as any ohter human being.
Like my aunt and her husband ... in 2014 when I was 6 months pregnant I had premature labourpain. I reached the doc on time, my son is fine. But when these 2 people reached at the hospital: he was angry that we only told him 2 hours (!) later and made a big fuss out of it, didnt even ask me how I was. My aunt said to me, thinking she would give me some support: "well, dont worry. Even if your baby d*ed, well why being sad about it, these things happen. Nothing even happened to you, why are you upset? Get up, and move on"
That's horrible! My baby came 1 month premature and when we told my father in law once we were all safely home a few days later (baby was healthy whereas I had a life threatening blood clot in my leg) and let them know what happened, he was LIVID we didn't tell him sooner. WTH?!!! In fact, he refused to speak to us for a year until he was on his deathbed. I didn't want to visit, but my husband made me. FIL claimed he was suffering still alive because God wanted him to see his grandchild before he died. 🙄 I hope he's rotting in hell.
Wow! Great example of the lack of empathy. Severely narcissistic, in the sociopath or psychopath category. It reminds me a little of my parent who was also very insensitive. Like one time my classmate died in an accident, I had gone to school with her in small town for about 8 years, had been to her bday parties when we were young, currently had class with her. But this parent didn't see why I should be upset that she died.
Back in the day, my ex-fiance stood by while I was on a phone call with my parents telling me that my little 21 year old stepbrother had been murdered, shot in the face and stomped out. As I writhed on the floor in pain, he stood over me looking at me like I was crazy, not understanding my behavior. He wasn't my REAL brother after all. It was in that moment I knew I could not marry that man. And it is in this moment that I realize he was more than likely a narcissist and I dodged a HUGE bullet.
Darling...my mom used to tell us as kids she want to abort my brother and that she had 9 abortions😱😰...no wonder my panic attacks are massive...😰😱...shaming ghe children for their very existence😰
When I had a miscarriage he and his family acted like it never happened and never hugged me or console me in any way. His mother is the narc and he is also but his father is narc too…😂 they are all just really toxic 🤷🏻♀️
I am so sorry he said that to you 💔 😭 you baby exists and is with their Heavenly Father Who loves them unconditionally ❤️🩹 and they want you to know you are a wonderful mother ❤️
Years ago I had a bad pregnancy and the narc said going outside for a quick smoke, then left me in hospital to birth an almost 8 month term dead baby. Doctors refused to start the delivery process while I was alone. Narc would'nt answer calls to his cell phone. Eventually his family members stepped in and figured out where he was. They insisted that he return to the hospital 😢
Word. Iost closest person to me (family member) and my boss expected me to be at work and didnt understand why i had to go to the funeral. They are so cruel.
Glad my for my grandma who taught me lessons growing up about my femininity and how to care about myself. Still have scars in my heart about it. Reason why I didn’t want to have kids. Only pets
I can't even thumb this up. Hearing this opened a repressed memory of losing a baby in ectopic pregnancy, many years ago, I literally just realized we never even had a conversation about it. It was totally ignored, It felt like dieing a little everyday, I just couldn't pull myself out of it.the relationship for lack of a better term didn't last long after that. Thank you so much for this shared info. Out of sight no attachment. Explains a lot about some strange family behaviors too. I can't wrap my brain around this. I wonder Is it narcissistic that I avoid grief that way? Bury it.
He sounds like he’s being consistent with his disorder. He is what he is and it sounded like an honest explanation as to how he saw things. It’s interesting but I’d rather they be honest than be forced to wear a mask, then shock us when we let our guard down. When they respond like this, it breaks the bond that was glued by confusion. We release hope and accept that detachment might be the best way forward. It leads to freedom and awareness. I’m grateful for this.
My narcissit mother told to my wife that she doesn't miss anyone as long as he is not in front of her ! My wife, who is human contrary with my mother, was shoked. My mother even faked crying few months ago when her mother died, because i found absolutly no tear drop in her eyes, just yeling as if she was hurt. It was obvious that my mother won't cry for her mother since my grand-mother turned my mother to a narcissist by abusing her while she was a child. My grand-mother created a narcisist. Each time my mother bullied me or slandered me, she wanted to get revenge from her abusive parents.
My ex went to his uncle's funeral out of state, to "grieve" n be a part of d family etc. I stayed home bc I knew how belligerent he got traveling. Later the night of d funeral I got a call n I heard loud music playing in d background n someone talking very loudly on d phone saying, "guess who's driving around w their dead uncle in d front seat of their car?!" This person was laughing.👹 I thot I was being pranked I hung up. Got a call back n it was d same psycho on d phone saying d same thing. I asked who it was n it was my ex husband proudly driving his deceased uncle's ashes from one venue to d other for his extended family. 😳 🤢🤮 Very true story, wish I cud say it wasn't.
My narc husband came home three days after I lost our first child at 16 weeks and yelled at me for crying …saying “ I’m so sick of seeing you crying already…. Get over it.”….. 3 days after.
Omg. My great grandmother in the mid 1800s was put away into an institution because she was depressed over the death of a child. It was his child, too!!! But he put her away and then married another woman without divorcing her. I cried because I am related to him, too....this is the source of much trauma in my family.
my narc mother does the opposite. In an attempt to imitate feelings, she exaggerates them, which then puts the focus on her and how much 'empathy' she has. It actually convinces a lot of people.
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Right on Danish! My ex narcissistic husband said I didn't do anything because he didn't see me doing it, while he was away all day. He believes the house cleans itself and I bring home money without having to do anything 😅
Object constancy... I can relate to this. If they cannot see it touch it, it isn't real to them. Both my children struggle intensely with anxiety, and he has told them both numerous times to stop faking it, that anxiety isn't even real and that they are just making up excuses. Truly evil.
They are soulless humans, he told me he doesnt understand why i was so sad since it was not yet a fully developed human being when i had a miscarriage.........
I understand dissociation and detachment.. some people just cant feel the same things as others.. but goddang you can certainly make an effort to sympathize and console
As my sister in law had a miscarriage, the father of my Ex-Husband didnt show any emotions, like a refrigerator, this whole family dont have any emotions
It's so sad. 😪 people high in narcissism really don't grasp emotional maturity. Unfortunately, it always means these exact people don't truly know god, they only make it seem that way to manipulate creating more problems socially then they are aware of sometimes. It's truly like an infection of darkness spreading unawaringly, so easy. Easy instead of challenging is always tempting to steer towards mentally and emotionally vs true growth and prosperity. We will line up to lies and pay for them vs receiving free truths from the light up above and within us all. ✨️
Narc is not human like us Devoting our life to a narc Is not worthy Both me and my child are happier without him now We are no more being attacked or played or bullied by him
Yip...i know of a NARC whose girlfriend was living eith him slong with her disabled daughter. The daughter died in her sleep.... maybe. Anyway after crying fake tears un front if ithers....he woukdnt allow the Mother to cry & grieve. "Get over it" he raged. 6 mobths later he was arrested for domestic abuse after her broker her nose fie crying. God help her & may the truth of the little ones death be revealed honestly for healing or justice.🙏
Yep I don't think I really got to grieve over the loss of my unborn baby . We had just came from the Ultrasound and on the screen they showed there was no heartbeat. I was crying on the bus on the way home and he told me to stop crying because he was more worried about people on the bus thinking he made me cry
Narcissists don't have feelings - they are not capable to feel sorrow. My narcissistic mother doesn't show the signs of sorrow after my father died and she didn't cry even when her mother died - I was a child at that time and I always wondered how can she do that. They are emotionally completely dead persons! The child in them is dead.
100 % true, when i was depressed and very sad after miscarriage ,he become very angry and rude to me. I was so afraid to express ,experience my emotions too. nasty fellow
Wanted to share this my husband told me about his porn addiction. I immediately got a miscarriage. I did not want to hurt his feelings so ,I said that it it’s not from that. I have seen the signs before and had a hell of a life ,but that is the time when the mask slipped . Because he was more worried about his family member moving in . Even though I said I can’t because I need time. Which blamed me that I am very bad and worse than all of his family. unfortunately ,I did not have the time to process my grief . God has been good to me . For all of those out there may God bless you. and give you the strength. And if he wants you to leave pray and he will lead you out.
They don't get attached. That's why that baby wasn't real to him. The things he said about "something she never touched" that's literally it. He didn't touch the baby, so to him it was just blood and goo. And to her it's the death of potential, she'll never know what or who that baby would've become...
OMG!!! My ex husband actually shamed for waking up crying because I told him I dreamed that the baby actually existed and that it's gone. He would get mad at me for even dreaming about it! He didn't even want me talking about it and he even went as far as to say "it was likely for the best. He probably had your bad genetics because you are always sick honey. I want you to be healthier when we plan it. Besides, I am not ready to share you with a baby".... Geeze....i actually blocked that one...I can't believe that actually happened.. haven't thought of it for 8 years.....may God give me justice 🙏
Mayb what this narc was saying was he cant tolerate her attention on anything but him...im betting his "WANTING HER TO "MOVE ON" WAS HIS MANIPULATIVE WAY TO DISMISS HER FEELINGS ..ERASE HER AS HE IS SO SELFISH LIKE ALL NARCS THEY CAN'T STAND KIDS NEEDING ATTENTION...POOR WIFE ..SO SORRY 4 HER LOSS..THATS THE NORMAL RESPONSE...MY GOSH.. WHAT A DEAD SOUL
Truly shocking, that baby was growing inside her. Thats attachment!
😵
Most natural attachment 🙏❤️
Literally.
There is no greater pain than the loss of a child
It sounds like this narcissist was venturing into psychopathic territory. To have no feelings, no capacity to even rationally understand why someone is hurting, to not even care to try signals something is bad wrong or super evil. Also, the baby was inside the mother, so she did touch it, feel it, and know it was there. The relationship with the baby had already begun. That wife needs to run fast!
That is exactly what my son in law said when my daughter had a miscarriage at 3 months. You are spot on. That is evil!
Make believe baby?!?! That was a real life human baby. 😢😢😢
Every relationship is a transaction…nothing more, nothing less.
@@MichelleKing-qy3zy How cold, this statement lacks understanding and empathy.
@MarionN-w3dI think they mean that's how narcissists see it... I think...
This is a good way to put it, you're right. This is likely how the narcissist sees every relationship. It's a transaction, and they aim to gain more from it than the other person.
@@rhetzel9031 The. " other " doesn't exist. Others aren't people, only things.
😮OMG that is so disgusting!
This proves that every negative comment about narcissists is true and demonic😮
Isn't this like psychopathy/sociopathy? The lack of empathy and feeling for the life of others?
I looked up the difference and my narc fell under the psychopath group. It's scary.
it most definitely is
@@lisagenx99 😮 Yes be careful n be safe n run if u can! ❤
Yes it is! And that’s exactly what people with NPD are! Sometimes I’m shocked that I survived my NM.
Its a common trait with both Psychopathy (obv) and NPD. There's overlap.
These people are very sad, they miss out on the most basic joys of life. They are their own worst enemy.
Yes. My brothers wife passed away in January. He hadn't met either of them my brother or his wife. I wanted a hug and I was denied comfort. He said, I didn't know her. This was when I realized he truly lack compassion. He could mirror it, but not genuine sympathy for anything. Just like I was supposed to just get over him being persistent for me to terminate my pregnancy 3 months into our "relationship". After asking me to try. I had prayed for 8 years to have another child. And I was frightened into his needs, over my morals and values. 😢
Hugs...😢
So sad 😢
I bet they'd cry over their next bonus from work ! Never seen it , never held it , knew it was due but it never arrived ! Narcissists are strange people !
Oh my God! Really so souless!
A narcissist is borrowing someone elses body, and they have no connection to family because they are a low level demon. I have been dealing with one for 59 years, my own "mother". She has never felt the slightest affection to me.
@forgiven. 💖💖💖💖🫂🫂🫂🫂
Yup, I have the same imposter as a mother, I am 58.
@VenusRising100 I am sorry that you also got this problem. We need to support each other. Best wishes to you❤️
@@forgiven5919 indeed, it is an ongoing struggle I don't think you are ever totally able to recover from, but you can choose to be happy and give yourself the love and respect you should have been given.
That is EVIL!!!
Object constancy is totally nonexistant. OMG. Hard to comprehend how oblivious they are!
Object constancy - that is learned as a baby! When we play peek-a-boo, that is what we are teaching. Did his parents never play peek-a-boo with him?
Narcs are something else. So hardhearted!
My husband was ANGRY about my miscarriage, a self-pitying "How dare this happen to me, I'm the angry victim" way instead of comforting me who was going through the physical pain and hormone roller coaster. He made me feel like total crap, even though miscarriages are super common, estimated 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. And this pregnancy was an oopsie, at first he was horrified, we already have 1 very difficult child, then he saw this as an opportunity for redemption to make up for his mistakes with the first... and I'm sure he was hoping for a boy this time... but he was LIVID when the pregnancy failed naturally.
Yes, my ex-narc too. I was 7 months pregnant. He started kicking and hitting things. Making it extremely difficult for me to deal with the loss and grief as I had to give my attention to him and calm him down. Making it all about him. All the while having 2 other children with me who he ignores most of the time…
My X husband too...🫂
Omg! Many years ago, my NM and stepdad drove from out of state to visit my husband and me. The day before they came, I had a miscarriage and had to have surgery.
There were cards on the mantle from people at my church, my NM picked one up that said ‘Sorry for your loss”. She tossed it and said “What loss? All you did was have surgery”.
The worst part is that years later, it happened again while they were visiting!
She was not gonna let that or anything else ruin her sight seeing vacation.
They appear to be an empty shell no emotion what so ever 🤔
Rephrase
They ARE empty
Simply vicious!!! She Felt the baby, thru it's movements. This guy is Sick!
We were married for 3 years. I got pregnant. The gynecologist asked me to be in the hospital at 8 in the morning. My husband said he can't take me by car to the hospital because he start to work et 6.45. Take the tram - he added. 😢
Classic narc behaviour. No care or connection whatsoever. May we heal 💙
I had a miscarriage and felt so badly with both emotional and physical pain. He didn't take me to a hospital. What he said was: " Let's go to a fancy restaurant. "....🤢🤮
oh god my narc parent made fun of other women for crying over miscarriages, i was 10 years old and hearing her joke and make fun of her coworker who had multiple miscarriages made me feel sick. Her coworker went off sick because she was grieving and the narc didn't underdtand why it was a big deal. She fell out with her other coworkers for saying this outloud, she said "it's not my fault i could have 4 kids, why". She could not understand why her coworkers would dislike her for her lack of empathy. She didn't understand why the death of a wanted child would be traumatic. She was a horrible person, i'm so happy she is out of my life.
There comes a time of empathy whether you feel exactly like she does or not. It’s like when you’re growing up when you’re playing and you fall down. You feel pain and embarrassment. Your friend starts laughing or says something cruel to you. Your ‘friend’ has no empathy.
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My husband and mother in law(they are Indian) treated me so wrong when I had a miss-miscarriage, I suffered for months after it happened, the pain, the bleeding the emotional stress after realizing I carried them(twins) for months before finding out they had passed. I lost so much blood after that I needed surgery, still treating me like the servant/slave they thought I was. They told me “in India women have abortions and they go to work in the fields the same day”
It happened 6 years ago, I still struggle with that.
Can never forgive them.
Sending love and light. You will heal one day don't worry. May those twins find their way back into your life one day...
Just forgive for your own peace, forgive for your health and wellbeing
LEAVE HIM.
You don't have to forgive them. So sorry for your loss. Sending you Love, Light and Healing 💙
when you are crying over a loss, it takes attention away from them.
He felt nothing for his baby nothing for his wife’s feelings . He had no empathy for either one. In his mind he separated the mother from the child.
The death of a child is one of the most difficult life experiences one can have. I lost a son when he was 42, just really finding his place in life. Losing a child who never had a chance to even breathe, a child upon which you have placed hopes and dreams, how is that not the same thing? I know mothers who lost a child through miscarriage, and every single one of them has never forgotten about that child, It is your child, a part of you, and a part of your heart, so for that to die is a reason for mourning just as any ohter human being.
Like my aunt and her husband ... in 2014 when I was 6 months pregnant I had premature labourpain. I reached the doc on time, my son is fine. But when these 2 people reached at the hospital: he was angry that we only told him 2 hours (!) later and made a big fuss out of it, didnt even ask me how I was. My aunt said to me, thinking she would give me some support: "well, dont worry. Even if your baby d*ed, well why being sad about it, these things happen. Nothing even happened to you, why are you upset? Get up, and move on"
That's horrible! My baby came 1 month premature and when we told my father in law once we were all safely home a few days later (baby was healthy whereas I had a life threatening blood clot in my leg) and let them know what happened, he was LIVID we didn't tell him sooner. WTH?!!! In fact, he refused to speak to us for a year until he was on his deathbed. I didn't want to visit, but my husband made me. FIL claimed he was suffering still alive because God wanted him to see his grandchild before he died. 🙄 I hope he's rotting in hell.
Wow! Great example of the lack of empathy. Severely narcissistic, in the sociopath or psychopath category. It reminds me a little of my parent who was also very insensitive. Like one time my classmate died in an accident, I had gone to school with her in small town for about 8 years, had been to her bday parties when we were young, currently had class with her. But this parent didn't see why I should be upset that she died.
That's horrible and so sad 😢 they are non humans
Back in the day, my ex-fiance stood by while I was on a phone call with my parents telling me that my little 21 year old stepbrother had been murdered, shot in the face and stomped out. As I writhed on the floor in pain, he stood over me looking at me like I was crazy, not understanding my behavior. He wasn't my REAL brother after all.
It was in that moment I knew I could not marry that man. And it is in this moment that I realize he was more than likely a narcissist and I dodged a HUGE bullet.
Darling...my mom used to tell us as kids she want to abort my brother and that she had 9 abortions😱😰...no wonder my panic attacks are massive...😰😱...shaming ghe children for their very existence😰
She should run far away from that man. No child deserves that as a father. Sounds like my dad.
When I had a miscarriage he and his family acted like it never happened and never hugged me or console me in any way. His mother is the narc and he is also but his father is narc too…😂 they are all just really toxic 🤷🏻♀️
Run..your feelings are not being validated.It will not get better.
Get out now!!! It only gets worse when you have a child!!!
Yes they're toxic.... I have been physically and mentally abused by narc son and his family.... Even when I think about it now, I'm shivering..
That happened to me💔💔💔🥺🥺he told me my baby never exists 😭😭😭😭
I am so sorry he said that to you 💔 😭 you baby exists and is with their Heavenly Father Who loves them unconditionally ❤️🩹 and they want you to know you are a wonderful mother ❤️
Years ago I had a bad pregnancy and the narc said going outside for a quick smoke, then left me in hospital to birth an almost 8 month term dead baby. Doctors refused to start the delivery process while I was alone. Narc would'nt answer calls to his cell phone. Eventually his family members stepped in and figured out where he was. They insisted that he return to the hospital 😢
This is evil. I'm so sorry for you💔
Word. Iost closest person to me (family member) and my boss expected me to be at work and didnt understand why i had to go to the funeral. They are so cruel.
I experienced this 2 times w/ my soon to be ex., but now I don’t see him anymore; he does not exist 👍. It works for me.
No object constancy, brilliant observation
Most shocking thing is the government won’t tattoo their disorder on their foreheads once they’re diagnosed
??? Tattoo on their heads???
That's so true... They are like that
Whew....thats so...raw 🤢
I’ll tell you what I think, there’s nothing worse than a covert narcissist.
However if you called them out on it, they would play victim right away, how dare you do/say that to them!
Exactly 💯
I love when you give real examples
Glad my for my grandma who taught me lessons growing up about my femininity and how to care about myself. Still have scars in my heart about it. Reason why I didn’t want to have kids. Only pets
Make believe baby…???
That is gut wrenching.
I very much appreciate your insight, Mr Bashir.
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I can't even thumb this up. Hearing this opened a repressed memory of losing a baby in ectopic pregnancy, many years ago, I literally just realized we never even had a conversation about it. It was totally ignored, It felt like dieing a little everyday, I just couldn't pull myself out of it.the relationship for lack of a better term didn't last long after that.
Thank you so much for this shared info. Out of sight no attachment. Explains a lot about some strange family behaviors too. I can't wrap my brain around this.
I wonder Is it narcissistic that I avoid grief that way? Bury it.
It was real to that woman feeling it grow.
He sounds like he’s being consistent with his disorder. He is what he is and it sounded like an honest explanation as to how he saw things. It’s interesting but I’d rather they be honest than be forced to wear a mask, then shock us when we let our guard down. When they respond like this, it breaks the bond that was glued by confusion. We release hope and accept that detachment might be the best way forward. It leads to freedom and awareness. I’m grateful for this.
My narcissit mother told to my wife that she doesn't miss anyone as long as he is not in front of her ! My wife, who is human contrary with my mother, was shoked. My mother even faked crying few months ago when her mother died, because i found absolutly no tear drop in her eyes, just yeling as if she was hurt. It was obvious that my mother won't cry for her mother since my grand-mother turned my mother to a narcissist by abusing her while she was a child. My grand-mother created a narcisist. Each time my mother bullied me or slandered me, she wanted to get revenge from her abusive parents.
My ex went to his uncle's funeral out of state, to "grieve" n be a part of d family etc. I stayed home bc I knew how belligerent he got traveling. Later the night of d funeral I got a call n I heard loud music playing in d background n someone talking very loudly on d phone saying, "guess who's driving around w their dead uncle in d front seat of their car?!" This person was laughing.👹
I thot I was being pranked I hung up. Got a call back n it was d same psycho on d phone saying d same thing. I asked who it was n it was my ex husband proudly driving his deceased uncle's ashes from one venue to d other for his extended family. 😳 🤢🤮 Very true story, wish I cud say it wasn't.
Heartless, cruel, no empathy, no sympathy. They are evil, void of emotion and empathy.
NARS have no remorse whatsoever period
Because they have no soul 😢😢😢
Frightening
"Make believe baby" WOW!
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My narc husband came home three days after I lost our first child at 16 weeks and yelled at me for crying …saying “ I’m so sick of seeing you crying already…. Get over it.”….. 3 days after.
Omg. My great grandmother in the mid 1800s was put away into an institution because she was depressed over the death of a child. It was his child, too!!! But he put her away and then married another woman without divorcing her. I cried because I am related to him, too....this is the source of much trauma in my family.
My narc soon to be ex husband told my friend he didn't understand why I was so upset when my mother died.
Wow....just wow. I'm so sorry😢
@whatdoIknow127 Thank you. It took me 12 more years after that to leave him.
sorry to hear, he may not just be a narc rather either a sociopath or a psychopath
my narc mother does the opposite. In an attempt to imitate feelings, she exaggerates them, which then puts the focus on her and how much 'empathy' she has. It actually convinces a lot of people.
This happened to me 4 times. It's so chilling that my narcissistic husband doesn't care how his cold, calloused attitude hurts me.
my god! No words I have to describe my anger !
Thank you for clearing up my mind God bless you Dr I always go and say that you are the best and the one who has helped Me through understanding throughout this entire journey and made me feel that it’s not my fault you have no idea how much you have blessed Me and I know God has a very big reward a faithful very big reward just for you
Right on Danish! My ex narcissistic husband said I didn't do anything because he didn't see me doing it, while he was away all day. He believes the house cleans itself and I bring home money without having to do anything 😅
Object constancy... I can relate to this. If they cannot see it touch it, it isn't real to them. Both my children struggle intensely with anxiety, and he has told them both numerous times to stop faking it, that anxiety isn't even real and that they are just making up excuses. Truly evil.
One word, Heartless!
They are soulless humans, he told me he doesnt understand why i was so sad since it was not yet a fully developed human being when i had a miscarriage.........
I understand dissociation and detachment.. some people just cant feel the same things as others.. but goddang you can certainly make an effort to sympathize and console
Total lack of empathy. No surprise
Now i undertood why they are monsters
As my sister in law had a miscarriage, the father of my Ex-Husband didnt show any emotions, like a refrigerator, this whole family dont have any emotions
Wow smh That’s crazy
😡 He’s so Crew saying that to his wife 🤠👨🏽🦼
I think even if they see it they turn it into a lie
It's so sad. 😪 people high in narcissism really don't grasp emotional maturity. Unfortunately, it always means these exact people don't truly know god, they only make it seem that way to manipulate creating more problems socially then they are aware of sometimes. It's truly like an infection of darkness spreading unawaringly, so easy. Easy instead of challenging is always tempting to steer towards mentally and emotionally vs true growth and prosperity. We will line up to lies and pay for them vs receiving free truths from the light up above and within us all. ✨️
So.. scientologists 😅😂
Narc is not human like us
Devoting our life to a narc
Is not worthy
Both me and my child are happier without him now
We are no more being attacked or played or bullied by him
He hates all God's creation, human or animal.
Narcissists have no real relationships💁🏻
One is dure life is easier if you live that way😢
WOW !!!!!
That’s shocking. 😳
Is it possible for someone to be born with narcissistic traits if a parent is a narcissist?
Yes.
Yip...i know of a NARC whose girlfriend was living eith him slong with her disabled daughter. The daughter died in her sleep.... maybe. Anyway after crying fake tears un front if ithers....he woukdnt allow the Mother to cry & grieve. "Get over it" he raged. 6 mobths later he was arrested for domestic abuse after her broker her nose fie crying. God help her & may the truth of the little ones death be revealed honestly for healing or justice.🙏
Yep I don't think I really got to grieve over the loss of my unborn baby . We had just came from the Ultrasound and on the screen they showed there was no heartbeat. I was crying on the bus on the way home and he told me to stop crying because he was more worried about people on the bus thinking he made me cry
Narcissists don't have feelings - they are not capable to feel sorrow. My narcissistic mother doesn't show the signs of sorrow after my father died and she didn't cry even when her mother died - I was a child at that time and I always wondered how can she do that. They are emotionally completely dead persons! The child in them is dead.
100 % true, when i was depressed and very sad after miscarriage ,he become very angry and rude to me. I was so afraid to express ,experience my emotions too. nasty fellow
Now I realised it after years,I had many abortions.
She had a miscarriage that is very real. Very upsetting to a woman who wants a child
Wanted to share this my husband told me about his porn addiction. I immediately got a miscarriage. I did not want to hurt his feelings so ,I said that it it’s not from that. I have seen the signs before and had a hell of a life ,but that is the time when the mask slipped . Because he was more worried about his family member moving in . Even though I said I can’t because I need time. Which blamed me that I am very bad and worse than all of his family. unfortunately ,I did not have the time to process my grief . God has been good to me . For all of those out there may God bless you. and give you the strength. And if he wants you to leave pray and he will lead you out.
They don't get attached. That's why that baby wasn't real to him. The things he said about "something she never touched" that's literally it. He didn't touch the baby, so to him it was just blood and goo. And to her it's the death of potential, she'll never know what or who that baby would've become...
OMG!!! My ex husband actually shamed for waking up crying because I told him I dreamed that the baby actually existed and that it's gone. He would get mad at me for even dreaming about it! He didn't even want me talking about it and he even went as far as to say "it was likely for the best. He probably had your bad genetics because you are always sick honey. I want you to be healthier when we plan it. Besides, I am not ready to share you with a baby"....
Geeze....i actually blocked that one...I can't believe that actually happened.. haven't thought of it for 8 years.....may God give me justice 🙏
This completely disgusts me! But for some reason is not at all surprising!😢😢😢. Evil people.
Psychopathy
Further evidence that they are babies/toddlers in adult bodies. Scary thought and scary reality for their children if they have them.
How can we make naraccist cry without gng to another source and stop with us begging us ???
When they cry, it doesn't help.
Mayb what this narc was saying was he cant tolerate her attention on anything but him...im betting his "WANTING HER TO "MOVE ON" WAS HIS MANIPULATIVE WAY TO DISMISS HER FEELINGS ..ERASE HER AS HE IS SO SELFISH LIKE ALL NARCS THEY CAN'T STAND KIDS NEEDING ATTENTION...POOR WIFE ..SO SORRY 4 HER LOSS..THATS THE NORMAL RESPONSE...MY GOSH.. WHAT A DEAD SOUL
i also think same way .... m i a narc