I think there is room for both perspectives and I enjoy watching them both, especially for the different angles covered. Not forgetting, this is free content which costs us nothing - and essentially: “you don’t like it, you don’t eat it”.
This is by far the best comprehensive review I have seen on TH-cam. The presenters voice speed and accent are audibly pleasant, the non verbal cues are professional, the knowledge base of the product is exceptional and the emphasis of excitement is timed perfectly. The camera quality is also exceptional and the placement of the camera in driving mode is correct. Other reviewers should study his method of delivery as a standard for car reviews. The base 718 Cayman is my favorite Porsche for real world (USA) driving and represents the purists pursuit of superior engineering and the art of sports car driving. This is my next car. Well done Sir. Subscribed!
So true! I think we are in the minority lol I heard it at the dealer with the sport exhaust and it sounded perfect enough for me. If people still want the distinctive sounds of the flat six they have used 2016/2015s GT4 still in great shape so I don't see the point of making reviews with a heavy portion based upon the disappointment of the reviewers about the new 4 cylinder's sound.
Best review of this car on the internet. This is a perfect sports car in my opinion of a sports car. It has; -Amazing design. -Good performance ( accelaraiton, handling, braking ) -Long-life engine. -Daily drive comfort -Amazing interior quality -Relatively economic fuel consumption -Enough storage space -Mechanical feel, not robotic. -Luxury and prestige. -Fair price. I really respect Porsche for this masterpiece. For example that little "718" mark behind the shift knob is not a need. But they decided to put it there and it is a nice detail for me. This is one of my dream cars. But it seems impossible for me to get one of these for now. Because it is about 130.000 € in my country (which is Turkey that all cars are expensive because of the taxes). Even if I earn money to afford 130k €, I am not sure this car worths that much money when other people all around the world have chance to buy it with less than half price. I think I am in love with this car that i wrote almost a story . :) Hope to get my dreams at a young age. Also hope for you. :)
You could buy it from Italy. I live in Greece and cars are expensive here too. I'll get one 2nd hand from italy with 10k kilometers. Basically new for half the price of a new one here in greece
Great review, thanks Thomas. I recently bought a loaded up 718 base Cayman having been influenced heavily by your review. I previously owned a 2013 Boxster base for 6 years so I am very familiar with the platform. My first drive was a 900 km (yes it was that far, I live in Canada) run through the mountains to my home from the dealership. As was the Boxster, this is a great drivers car and I have no real complaints about the flat 6 vs the new flat 4 except for a bit gruffness and slight turbo lag. Neither is a deal breaker. A complaint that I do have and that didn't reveal itself in a test drive is that the car produces a noticeable low frequency vibration from the firewall that increases with the use of the sport exhaust. After about an hour the sound became annoying and after several hours I developed a headache. The noise can be lessened by turning off the sport exhaust but still remains annoying. By the time I got home after 10 hours driving I was ready to sell the car. I did some research and found out something I never expected from Porsche. Inside the trunk is a "Soundaktor" unit. For those unfamiliar with these it consists of an electronic actuator that pipes sound from the engine to the firewall and uses the firewall as a resonator to "accentuate" the exhaust sound. I knew that automotive manufacturers used these in lower end cars but never expected to find one in a Porsche. I was always under the impression that Porsche used superior German engineering to produce pleasing exhaust notes and not fake electronic noise. It's blasphemy. Anyway, I found the circuit that powers the Soundoktor and disabled it by removing the fuse. To my ear there is a huge improvement in exhaust sound. It now sounds like the exhaust note is coming from the rear of the car, where it should be, instead of over your right shoulder and the annoying low frequency vibration is gone. Something to be aware of for anyone thinking about buying one of these.
Yes, I cannot believe that Porsche uses fake sounds in any car they produce. Much like Mercedes and their fake exhaust tips. I’m currently specing a Cayman and one of the first things I will do upon delivery will be to remove the same fuse.
Watched this video a year ago before I went and bought a 718 Cayman S. Love the car and thankyou for such a detailed and accurate review which helped me make my decision!
Really enjoy your candid opinions of the 718 across the entire line. Very helpful when considering what options to pay up for, and still have the Porsche experience. Thank you!
It's prettier than the Boxster and some would argue even the 911. And probably better balanced than both. Agree this is the ultimate sports car even over the 911!
***** Mr Moses believer it's in ref to the new engine, a throwback to their 4 cylinder race car of the late 50s/early 60s. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_718
Autogefühl. I have watched just about every videos there are on the 718 Caymans, 981 Caymans, and the GT4. My biggest difficulty as with most Porsche lovers, is the 4-cylinder engine’s lower tone pitch with respect to the 6-cylinder. As you I found the new cars are in every way better, from performance, to aesthetics, to comfort and user friendliness. Of course the 4-cylinder engine cannot sound the same as the 6. You are by far the best reviewer that details the subtle enhancements that few other mention (e.g. the very refined air vents). I think your review is on the whole very objective, logical, and with regard to emotions, and especially driving engagement. Most important you are one of the very few today test drive ones with manual gearbox. I have explored buying a lightly used 981 Cayman S, GTS, and even a GT4, but more and more, I am leaning towards order a new 718 to my specific options and color. A fine point. One can assess the engine under the interior cover for most minor maintenance like adding oil, changing filter, and may be changing the sparkplugs. Keep up the good work.
Update you asked and you get. :-) Today I found my nearly perfect GT4 3100 miles away. PCCB checked. Bucket seats - checked. Sport chrono - checked. My paint color - checked.
I love the tranquil tone of Autogefühl and the extra long reviews. Little to few youtube channels really do. Unlike most who sugar coat their vids with senseless noise. Awesome job, Thomas.
By the way, it would be cool if you could do videos of Young- and Oldtimers as well with a dedicated channel. "Autogefühl Klassik" or something similar.
Another great review !! Love how you really get into the details and in a pace that makes it easy to understand. ps ! You could also give advice to certain car vloggers in UK on how to dress :-)
What a great and professional review! Thanks! I have been thinking about buying my first real sports car (it's about time, I'm 53) the coming year and this excellent review convinced me that the Cayman S probably is the car I will go for. For long I was locked on the much more expensive 911, but now I have reconsidered. And..what funny coincidence...the highway/motorway scenes (just before the Sturup Raceway scenes) was fimed just near by where I live :)
Great review Thomas! I personally really like the shape or the Cayman - with the mid engine variant. I have always found the 911 to have a bit of a hunchback with the engine back there.... (Although I would not refuse a 911 Carrera 4 GTS - if someone wanted to give me one) The additional storage is very handy. That color is nice, but the Miami Blue really 'pops" Thx and keep up the good work - Loyal subscriber here...
Brilliant review Thomas. You covered everything that matters to me; comfort, luggage space, and practicality. Most Porsche reviews concentrate on its on-track performance and while that is important in a Porsche, the reality is that most people never take their car anywhere near a racetrack. For me, everyday drivability is one of the most important things. I typically drive 45-50,000km per year so my car needs to be comfortable but also able to put a smile on my face. The 718 Cayman would most certainly do that for me. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
Yes, me too Miami Blue, with the non leather seats, really nice car hard to imagine why so many go for a 911.Its still a great car, but its so big & expensive compared to the Cayman.
One of the best reviews I have seen for a very long time.Clarkson,Hammond ,May,Needell or Harris not even in the same league.This is what review should be,instead of just thrashing a car around race circuit
Great review Thomas, this is a fantastic channel, really enjoy the full length detailed reviews! I’m convinced, I’m loving the Cayman, would probably go for the S though with sports exhausts.
I appreciate that you review the aesthetics of the cars. Most automobile reviews on TH-cam do not do this, and most of the reviewers lack your level of sophistication. Great job!
Amazing review, finally someone that talks about the everyday driver interest. Doesn't just take a car to the race track and call it a day, A thing a majority of people don't do.
Yeah the new flat 4 has kind of an "errrrrrrr" whereas the flat 6 had more of an "aaaah" or a "waaaaah". They'll probably improve the sound eventually, because there are a lot better sounding four bangers, kind of an exhaust note rough draft. And don't buy one in a right hand drive country, the intake is on the left side only, meaning less intake noise.
Really professional and nice review. Looks like could have been today. Thanks a lot 👍 I have just bought mine base Cayman. Looking forward to get it soon
This is an excellent review that actually covers the features of the car.I have just taken delivery of a white 718. This is a beautiful car. The performance and handling are unbelievable. Everything is so tight and well engineered. The balance and handling of my car, with the 20 inch wheels is just amazing. I also have a 1989 911 Carrera which is so raw compared to the Cayman. Both beautiful cars.
Excellent review as usual Thomas.Feel as though i was on the test drive with you! The 911 has become waaaaay to expensive for ordinary buyers,and I totally agree with you about the purity of the design-sports cars are for having fun.Keep up the great reviews!
Wow, top-notch review. It was in my recommendations and I didn't think I would finish it, but I couldn't stop. Such a beautiful car and the interior looks perfect.
Great review as always. Love this car, thinking on buying one, still having second thoughts on the color combo though. I love the red interior, which exterior color do you think would go best with it on this car? My first choice would be white exterior, but I'm starting to think that white is becoming too common, so I'd like to consider other colors, like this blueish gray we see on your review, it looks awesome, think it would be a good combo with red interior? Keep up with your great reviews Thomas!
thanks! I would stick with the standard interior as it seems you dont get any animal skin then - and it's the cheapest and already with great quality. Colours available for the standard trim seem to be black, beige and grey. That beige interior is kickass, however it seems the dashboard is also beige then and that causes some reflections
Congratulations this is the fullest presentation for the 718 , you show and you talk about everything and in my opinion the 718 with the 2litre base model engine is the best all around sport car that money can buy in our time. Wow , you are amazing , congratulations for once again.
Great review! I keep bouncing back between a base Cayman with a manual transmission and a Corvette with the big V8. I can't decide which one to spend my money on. Thank you for this amazing review.
Can I repost this? Can I like this comment 500 times?! Enough with the 4 cylinder talk. Amazing car, amazing price for what you get, and not a fucking lambo
Excellent review - love all the detail - how a review should be. Too many other reviewers spend too much time listening to themselves and not giving sufficient, balanced information. I agree with the below: gone to the top of my list of favourite reviewers.
What an amazing review it was! My favorite car is the gt4 and ive always loved the cayman more than the 911. Sad to see the 6cylinder go but the sound is not that big for me. Thanks for the review!
Finally, someone w/ reason and logic. Sound is wwaaaay overrated, considering all the other superior aspects of this car vs the older one. Unless the new one sounds like a scooter, which it obviously does not.
+Skill Sessions I think super loud exhaust noises are a bit immature. The greater handling, better ride, superior breaks and the new transmission make this car classier and better!
ICcreepers I feel the exact same way. Are you my long lost brother? LOL. *Performance* to me trumps all for sports cars, not what it sounds like, unless, ofc, it sounds like an ice cream truck.
I love these reviews. I make popcorn and watch them on the big screen. I never skip ahead and watch the full thing. This is the 5th time I've watched this review. I know I am getting the truth and an unbiased review.
Greetings from Germany. Love the facelift, especially the backside and the interior. I think this is the first time I want a porsche, should I ever be able to affort it one day. I would buy the sedan version though, the panamera.
The sport exhaust is the biggest waste of money possible. They charge $2,500 for a butterfly valve that makes your exhaust louder. You don't even get more horse power.
Greate scenery pick , picture perfect color wise, etc, like your style Tomas and way of presenting, and 4K & full view is an added bonus, you guys getting better with time just like vine, cheers !
I actually like the sound on start up. I've had one for 8 months and it's a joy. The performance is insane and you can see why Porsche had to hold back the Cayman cos it would smoke a 911 if they unleashed its full potential. And just look at it, inside and out it's stunning
Very very very motivational video, I have just receive my new 718 cayman today! Thanks for this absolutely brilliant videos! Very educative with accurate real guidance before buying one of these toys. Thanks for this great video! 😊
I absolutely love these reviews. Also (I am English) but I worked closely with Adam Opel AG for 10 years. The way you speak, act, and look is EXACTLY like my friend Dieter engineerings/design! Great!
*Here is constructive argument (opinion)on why this does not sound like Subaru (or any other japan cars, you should be smacked for even comparing them, different beasts), not here to argue how "good" it sounds tho* but gotta say the car sounds like the best stock 4 cyl ive ever heard aside from alfa. ----Lets talk about 3 elements of sound. *Rhythm* (in this case we will use the engine's sound pattern), *tempo* (in this case we will use how fast it revs to high revs), and *pitch or note* i guess 1: pattern- is still porsche. The rhythm of the engine is the same (very noticeable in high revs, in low revs harder to hear but ill explain later) 2: tempo - basically revs to higher end about same speed as previous gen. 3: Pitch/note- It is *lower* and that is one of the most notable thing our ear picks up. IT SOUNDS LOWER PITCHED. is that *bad?* personally i say its just different. If you dislike this specific note, then you must hate a lot of cars with low pitches like AMG, and muscle cars :( All of these elements *do not sound like subaru* BUTTT *NOW HERE ARE THINGS THAT U HEAR THAT MIGHT BE WHY YOU THINK THIS SOUNDS LIKE SUBARU* 1. the initial patterns are not quite the same: There are some air blowing like noise in the very first few revs. If that matters *THAT* much to you then dont get this car and continue to bash on it as it rightfully deserves your bashing in this case. 2. the totality of the Volume is reduced. It is also a natural occurrence because we naturally thing higher pitch things are louder, when it really isnt. It just kinda shocks your ears more. kinda like how spicy tastes nice but its a sensation of pain. personally i think this car is quite nice. *i wont say this is better sounding than flat 6, but it is simply different* WOULD be nice if its louder tho but keep in mind these are videos. Mics also do not pick up lower pitched things too well (depending on brand). I checked it out irl the other day, sounds damn damn loud.
Nicely done, Thomas. Those non-leather seats are great, just what I would order. I'm assuming the doors dash and console still have the stitched leather, or is that also faux leather?
thanks! Good question, I was thinking about that myself as well. Dashboard and inside of the doors are usually more leatherette than anything else, even in the Mercedes S-Class, as it is more durable. Not sure in this case, let me scroll some price lists and configurators ... ;)
It's really hard to find out. My current guess is that in the standard trim, it is faux leather and if you go for some higher spec animal skin seats, that will also put it on the dashboard. That's what I take from the configurator descriptions
Yes, I did the same thing. I couldn't tell from the written description when I selected the Sport-Tex Seats, but the image on the doors changed to having aluminum trim and stitching. I think it upgrades to leather on the surrounding surfaces when choosing the Sport-Tex. Looking at your excellent HD close-ups, I'm inclined to think this is the case. Maybe in the future they'll offer the full faux interior, but for now, the Sport-Tex Seats are a step in the right direction. Thank you.
yes exactly. Best is standard trim with alcantara/faux leather where you should also have the faux dashboard then - and save some money :) Dont understand why the cloth is more expensive than the alcantara as well
Thanks for this review. I just bought this Cayman S with the same interior. Really fun to drive and so classic. I wanted to get a 911 but this car was beautiful and a solid ride on top of it. It has 20 inch Carrera Wheels...More solid than a 911...like you said, you become 1 with the car. Nice Review!
The Cayman is a wonderful car. The new 4 is a deal braker for me. It sounds like my BRZ. I would have to go with an older H6 car. Now if the 4 was around 40k vs 60k I would have to eat my words.
I don't agree on the sound thing, and I think you are all in denial. Yes they don't sound as good anymore. But the major stigma around these cars were how slow they were. Yes they handled well, but they were slow. And I highly doubt any of you would gladly lose a race against something as mass produced as say an Audi s3, and tell yourself shortly afterward that "it's OK that I lost to a car worth $40k less than mine because it sounds better." That's utter rubbish.
Gabatron...Who buys a Boxster to drag race? The Boxster is one of the best handling cars money can by. If you want to crush an S3 buy a 32k Mustang GT. There will always be a faster car than yours. There is no car you can buy in America that handles better than the Boxster. I am not talking about the numbers. Feel and precision it is at the top. That H6 was at the top for feel and precision also. The new 4 has more power but a bit of that sweetness has been lost.
Wow, in the first part of this video the 718 sounds exactly like the Subaru WRX STi that I use to own. That isn't a bad sound, but if you close your eyes, I'd swear I was listening to a Subaru. I'm going to have examine this car closely at this years Werks Reunion.
After having owned several of the following Porsches; including 356, 356S90, 914 2.0, 944, 911's, and now the 718 Cayman "Base" Model with PDK, I can honestly say this is truly the most refined and exciting Porsche to drive, both on the motorway, track, and as a daily driver. Get over the "sound" and focus on the driving experience, which is truly exceptional. I enjoyed this review as well as the one for the Boxster S and believe that there is a true representation of the car's capabilities. I can tell you first hand that the "suggested" acceleration times are higher than I have had experience with in track timings.
Your reviews are fantastic. I remember the 944 and 968. Both had 4 cylinder engines and were great performers in the day. My concern is with the cost. I bought a used 991 C2S for the same money as the new Cayman S. Porsche's biggest rival may now be with their own cars on the used market.
Hi Thomas, just watched this older review because I just drove a 718 Cayman yesterday (a Valentine present from my girlfriend). More or less the same configuration as the Graphite Blue model in your review, but with PDK and a few more options like the sports exhaust, sports mode, Apple Carplay etc. And in gorgeous Lava Orange... I agree with you when you say that the normal Cayman is just fine : the 300ps are more than enough to enjoy this car to the full. A very enjoyable experience, in any case. I can start saving now ;-)
+Jano Guell Jano, I just had a look at your liked and favorite videos. After seeing what your taste in videos is, how can anyone take you comments seriously? I agree that the 718 doesn't sound as good as the previous engine, but by no means does the new engine sound crap - and in both versions, it puts out serious horsepower. If you think it sounds like a diesel BMW, I suggest you buy the BMW. A Porsche would be wasted on you.
Ron Gambol I haven't liked any videos since decades ago, because basically I only want to se videos, and I don't no in what what kind of way the videos that I liked make that much influence in how seriously my comments should be taked with, but any way, that was just my personal opinion, yes I think that a bmw one series with a tunned exhaust sounds as much as good and I also think that such a small engine that produces 300 HP is going to have durability issues, but again that's just my personal opinion and probably I'm not correct. And I'm sorry if my comment had ofended you, seriously, I didn't mean to.
great review. I have a Cayman 2015 and I love it, always ready to please. I'm still a bit iffy on the turbo change, but that's the old aspiratited driver in me
It's incredible how many times I've seen almost an identical comment. Oh the sound, oh the 4 not 6. It's a better car than it was and it's less harmful to the environment. And in 20 years, good luck finding a V6.
Great review as always! I am watching this review for the second time before I pull the trigger and put in an order for Base Cayman today. Thank you very much for your great work!
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I am watching this video 7 years after it was made. It is fantastic! Thank you for making this.
most welcome !
I'm getting one tomorrow, 7 years after it was made. Still looks way better than most new cars!
@@astone_ua That is fantastic! Enjoy!
A professional review, not another Chris Harris review drifting and complaining about the sound all the video.
keep supporting us!
Love your work, True car experts and enthusiasts.
Agreed, he’s a charismatic guy but drifting everywhere isn’t what cars are all about.
Absolutely....god forbid chris has some fun in a car.......I much prefer this massively overlong review as I also watch paint dry on my wall..yawn
I think there is room for both perspectives and I enjoy watching them both, especially for the different angles covered.
Not forgetting, this is free content which costs us nothing - and essentially: “you don’t like it, you don’t eat it”.
Just purchased my 2021 Cayman 718 base. Everything is perfect. Don’t need anything more from a Porsche. What a great value proposition.
This is by far the best comprehensive review I have seen on TH-cam. The presenters voice speed and accent are audibly pleasant, the non verbal cues are professional, the knowledge base of the product is exceptional and the emphasis of excitement is timed perfectly. The camera quality is also exceptional and the placement of the camera in driving mode is correct. Other reviewers should study his method of delivery as a standard for car reviews. The base 718 Cayman is my favorite Porsche for real world (USA) driving and represents the purists pursuit of superior engineering and the art of sports car driving. This is my next car. Well done Sir. Subscribed!
Well, he’s German, so expect excellence.
For once a review that isn't based around the lack of flat-six noise. It will be missed, but that's just an amazing car. Huge improvement.
indeed, thanks !
So true! I think we are in the minority lol I heard it at the dealer with the sport exhaust and it sounded perfect enough for me. If people still want the distinctive sounds of the flat six they have used 2016/2015s GT4 still in great shape so I don't see the point of making reviews with a heavy portion based upon the disappointment of the reviewers about the new 4 cylinder's sound.
Explain the massive sales drop afterwards
Sales drop? Fake news.
Pablo Herasme do you really think people would buy other cars just cuz it has 2 less cylinders?
Exterior design is breathtakingly gorgeous
Always a perfect narration and attitude! Absolutely lovely to watch all the Porsche reviews on this channel!
+Max Nits great to have u here!
Best review of this car on the internet.
This is a perfect sports car in my opinion of a sports car.
It has;
-Amazing design.
-Good performance ( accelaraiton, handling, braking )
-Long-life engine.
-Daily drive comfort
-Amazing interior quality
-Relatively economic fuel consumption
-Enough storage space
-Mechanical feel, not robotic.
-Luxury and prestige.
-Fair price.
I really respect Porsche for this masterpiece. For example that little "718" mark behind the shift knob is not a need. But they decided to put it there and it is a nice detail for me.
This is one of my dream cars. But it seems impossible for me to get one of these for now. Because it is about 130.000 € in my country (which is Turkey that all cars are expensive because of the taxes). Even if I earn money to afford 130k €, I am not sure this car worths that much money when other people all around the world have chance to buy it with less than half price.
I think I am in love with this car that i wrote almost a story . :) Hope to get my dreams at a young age. Also hope for you. :)
thanks so much, spread the word to your friends!
How are you doing now? Is the 718 still a dream car for you?
You could buy it from Italy. I live in Greece and cars are expensive here too. I'll get one 2nd hand from italy with 10k kilometers. Basically new for half the price of a new one here in greece
Best review Ive seen of a 718 cayman
thx so much!
This is a fine review. The presentation is second to none. Thank you Thomas.
thanks so much, keep tuning in!
That is a beautiful steering wheel.
agreed.. might have to see if i can snag one for my 981
The GT wheel is much better. No buttons. Just the drive selector. It’s perfect.
Great review, thanks Thomas. I recently bought a loaded up 718 base Cayman having been influenced heavily by your review. I previously owned a 2013 Boxster base for 6 years so I am very familiar with the platform. My first drive was a 900 km (yes it was that far, I live in Canada) run through the mountains to my home from the dealership. As was the Boxster, this is a great drivers car and I have no real complaints about the flat 6 vs the new flat 4 except for a bit gruffness and slight turbo lag. Neither is a deal breaker. A complaint that I do have and that didn't reveal itself in a test drive is that the car produces a noticeable low frequency vibration from the firewall that increases with the use of the sport exhaust. After about an hour the sound became annoying and after several hours I developed a headache. The noise can be lessened by turning off the sport exhaust but still remains annoying. By the time I got home after 10 hours driving I was ready to sell the car. I did some research and found out something I never expected from Porsche. Inside the trunk is a "Soundaktor" unit. For those unfamiliar with these it consists of an electronic actuator that pipes sound from the engine to the firewall and uses the firewall as a resonator to "accentuate" the exhaust sound. I knew that automotive manufacturers used these in lower end cars but never expected to find one in a Porsche. I was always under the impression that Porsche used superior German engineering to produce pleasing exhaust notes and not fake electronic noise. It's blasphemy. Anyway, I found the circuit that powers the Soundoktor and disabled it by removing the fuse. To my ear there is a huge improvement in exhaust sound. It now sounds like the exhaust note is coming from the rear of the car, where it should be, instead of over your right shoulder and the annoying low frequency vibration is gone. Something to be aware of for anyone thinking about buying one of these.
Yes, I cannot believe that Porsche uses fake sounds in any car they produce. Much like Mercedes and their fake exhaust tips. I’m currently specing a Cayman and one of the first things I will do upon delivery will be to remove the same fuse.
Which fuse did you pull?
This video was amazing I'm going to get the base model it's my 1st sports car ever so for me it's more than enough
Watched this video a year ago before I went and bought a 718 Cayman S. Love the car and thankyou for such a detailed and accurate review which helped me make my decision!
Thanks please recommend 😎
Best car review I've seen. Maybe because this guy thinks like me, but he is great.
thanks, keep joining us!
Really enjoy your candid opinions of the 718 across the entire line. Very helpful when considering what options to pay up for, and still have the Porsche experience. Thank you!
great to hear that, hope u subscribed :)
Your reviews are just superb, really appreciate the level of detail you go into.
thanks man! Also check out our 2 new porsche reviews !
I'm saving up for the S Class Coupe you did a review on a while ago :)
Compare Porsche 718 Boxster review: th-cam.com/video/CT1JNv3Pk_M/w-d-xo.html
It's prettier than the Boxster and some would argue even the 911. And probably better balanced than both. Agree this is the ultimate sports car even over the 911!
***** Mr Moses believer it's in ref to the new engine, a throwback to their 4 cylinder race car of the late 50s/early 60s. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_718
Autogefühl v
Autogefühl. I have watched just about every videos there are on the 718 Caymans, 981 Caymans, and the GT4. My biggest difficulty as with most Porsche lovers, is the 4-cylinder engine’s lower tone pitch with respect to the 6-cylinder. As you I found the new cars are in every way better, from performance, to aesthetics, to comfort and user friendliness. Of course the 4-cylinder engine cannot sound the same as the 6. You are by far the best reviewer that details the subtle enhancements that few other mention (e.g. the very refined air vents). I think your review is on the whole very objective, logical, and with regard to emotions, and especially driving engagement. Most important you are one of the very few today test drive ones with manual gearbox.
I have explored buying a lightly used 981 Cayman S, GTS, and even a GT4, but more and more, I am leaning towards order a new 718 to my specific options and color.
A fine point. One can assess the engine under the interior cover for most minor maintenance like adding oil, changing filter, and may be changing the sparkplugs.
Keep up the good work.
thanks man! Keep us updated with your choice. Remember to order the 718 standard with alcantara or pick the fabric tex package!
Update you asked and you get. :-) Today I found my nearly perfect GT4 3100 miles away. PCCB checked. Bucket seats - checked. Sport chrono - checked. My paint color - checked.
I love your style, calmness and thoroughness. Really great review. Thank you.
Welcome!
I personally like the 911, but would be very, very, VERY happy with the Cayman =)
I love the tranquil tone of Autogefühl and the extra long reviews. Little to few youtube channels really do. Unlike most who sugar coat their vids with senseless noise. Awesome job, Thomas.
appreciated !!
By the way, it would be cool if you could do videos of Young- and Oldtimers as well with a dedicated channel. "Autogefühl Klassik" or something similar.
Another great review !!
Love how you really get into the details and in a pace that makes it easy to understand.
ps !
You could also give advice to certain car vloggers in UK on how to dress :-)
tack tore!
Absolutely fantastic overview of this wonderful Porsche. Well done! Your presentation style is so enjoyable.
thanks jonathan, you re always welcome!
What a great and professional review! Thanks! I have been thinking about buying my first real sports car (it's about time, I'm 53) the coming year and this excellent review convinced me that the Cayman S probably is the car I will go for. For long I was locked on the much more expensive 911, but now I have reconsidered. And..what funny coincidence...the highway/motorway scenes (just before the Sturup Raceway scenes) was fimed just near by where I live :)
Enjoy😀
I love your reviews. meticulous, informative, and to the point.
+Zapp Rogerstein (y)
Great review Thomas! I personally really like the shape or the Cayman - with the mid engine variant. I have always found the 911 to have a bit of a hunchback with the engine back there.... (Although I would not refuse a 911 Carrera 4 GTS - if someone wanted to give me one) The additional storage is very handy. That color is nice, but the Miami Blue really 'pops" Thx and keep up the good work - Loyal subscriber here...
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Brilliant review Thomas. You covered everything that matters to me; comfort, luggage space, and practicality.
Most Porsche reviews concentrate on its on-track performance and while that is important in a Porsche, the reality is that most people never take their car anywhere near a racetrack.
For me, everyday drivability is one of the most important things. I typically drive 45-50,000km per year so my car needs to be comfortable but also able to put a smile on my face. The 718 Cayman would most certainly do that for me. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
so true m8
Yes, me too Miami Blue, with the non leather seats, really nice car hard to imagine why so many go for a 911.Its still a great car, but its so big & expensive compared to the Cayman.
way to go m8
One of the best reviews I have seen for a very long time.Clarkson,Hammond ,May,Needell or Harris not even in the same league.This is what review should be,instead of just thrashing a car around race circuit
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Great review Thomas, this is a fantastic channel, really enjoy the full length detailed reviews! I’m convinced, I’m loving the Cayman, would probably go for the S though with sports exhausts.
thanks Stephen!
They are kind of a bargain. In the UK can get them from around £30k for a 2014 one. Insurance I was surprised being £1380 for me at 21
I appreciate that you review the aesthetics of the cars. Most automobile reviews on TH-cam do not do this, and most of the reviewers lack your level of sophistication. Great job!
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I really like the guy who is pressenting the car. Will subscribe just for him.. cheers mate!!!
love to hear that, welcome!
Amazing review, finally someone that talks about the everyday driver interest.
Doesn't just take a car to the race track and call it a day, A thing a majority of people don't do.
+Abrahim Yaqut appreciated!
Yeah the new flat 4 has kind of an "errrrrrrr" whereas the flat 6 had more of an "aaaah" or a "waaaaah".
They'll probably improve the sound eventually, because there are a lot better sounding four bangers, kind of an exhaust note rough draft.
And don't buy one in a right hand drive country, the intake is on the left side only, meaning less intake noise.
+wtlisat tbh I was being a little facetious, but it might actually be having that impact.
No 4 cylinder will ever sound as good as a six cylinder, no matter what you do with the exhaust note.
Phos9 nonsense
Really professional and nice review. Looks like could have been today. Thanks a lot 👍
I have just bought mine base Cayman. Looking forward to get it soon
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That is a stunning color.
This is an excellent review that actually covers the features of the car.I have just taken delivery of a white 718. This is a beautiful car. The performance and handling are unbelievable. Everything is so tight and well engineered. The balance and handling of my car, with the 20 inch wheels is just amazing. I also have a 1989 911 Carrera which is so raw compared to the Cayman. Both beautiful cars.
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Excellent review as usual Thomas.Feel as though i was on the test drive with you! The 911 has become waaaaay to expensive for ordinary buyers,and I totally agree with you about the purity of the design-sports cars are for having fun.Keep up the great reviews!
+Jeffrey Killicoat 👍🏁
Wow, top-notch review. It was in my recommendations and I didn't think I would finish it, but I couldn't stop. Such a beautiful car and the interior looks perfect.
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As Usual, Very Detailed In-Depth! 👌 Perfect review Thomas! 👍
way to go !
The 718 Cayman is a beauty, such a refined and top balanced sportscar. There's no better today indeed
Great review as always. Love this car, thinking on buying one, still having second thoughts on the color combo though.
I love the red interior, which exterior color do you think would go best with it on this car?
My first choice would be white exterior, but I'm starting to think that white is becoming too common, so I'd like to consider other colors, like this blueish gray we see on your review, it looks awesome, think it would be a good combo with red interior?
Keep up with your great reviews Thomas!
thanks!
I would stick with the standard interior as it seems you dont get any animal skin then - and it's the cheapest and already with great quality. Colours available for the standard trim seem to be black, beige and grey. That beige interior is kickass, however it seems the dashboard is also beige then and that causes some reflections
Congratulations this is the fullest presentation for the 718 , you show and you talk about everything and in my opinion the 718 with the 2litre base model engine is the best all around sport car that money can buy in our time. Wow , you are amazing , congratulations for once again.
+Anton26 🏁🏁🏁🏁
Wow that's a beautiful interior.
Great review!
I keep bouncing back between a base Cayman with a manual transmission and a Corvette with the big V8. I can't decide which one to spend my money on. Thank you for this amazing review.
Thanks 🙏
*porsche always pursued speed and tracking, if you want enthusiasm go to Ferrari. QUIT COMPLAINING.*
italian/german
Can I repost this? Can I like this comment 500 times?! Enough with the 4 cylinder talk. Amazing car, amazing price for what you get, and not a fucking lambo
Excellent review - love all the detail - how a review should be. Too many other reviewers spend too much time listening to themselves and not giving sufficient, balanced information. I agree with the below: gone to the top of my list of favourite reviewers.
Cheers man pls tell ur friends :)
What an amazing review it was! My favorite car is the gt4 and ive always loved the cayman more than the 911. Sad to see the 6cylinder go but the sound is not that big for me. Thanks for the review!
thanks m8 !
Finally, someone w/ reason and logic. Sound is wwaaaay overrated, considering all the other superior aspects of this car vs the older one. Unless the new one sounds like a scooter, which it obviously does not.
+Skill Sessions I think super loud exhaust noises are a bit immature. The greater handling, better ride, superior breaks and the new transmission make this car classier and better!
ICcreepers I feel the exact same way. Are you my long lost brother? LOL.
*Performance* to me trumps all for sports cars, not what it sounds like, unless, ofc, it sounds like an ice cream truck.
good thoughts guys
I love these reviews. I make popcorn and watch them on the big screen. I never skip ahead and watch the full thing. This is the 5th time I've watched this review. I know I am getting the truth and an unbiased review.
way to go my friend :-)
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Greetings from Germany. Love the facelift, especially the backside and the interior. I think this is the first time I want a porsche, should I ever be able to affort it one day. I would buy the sedan version though, the panamera.
Viele Grüße :)
Great review Thomas, as always, pertinent and honest. I hope they let you share the GTS with us too. Thanks for your work.
+PeterGeneva thank you, yes that will be coming in November now
AWESOME REVIEW !!!! loved it
The way you care about your viewers and show every paint color is awesome! Danke schön autogefühl !!
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19:38 you can call the devel "types 666 into phone function" 😂😂😂😂👌
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@@autogefuehl I am getting this car in 2021...do you still recommend it today? Danke Schön!
just bought a 2018 Cayman S and you have described it perfectly. Many Thanks
enjoy!
The sport exhaust is the biggest waste of money possible. They charge $2,500 for a butterfly valve that makes your exhaust louder. You don't even get more horse power.
Panthers1521 it’s included with all models as of 2018 no addl cost
Greate scenery pick , picture perfect color wise, etc, like your style Tomas and way of presenting, and 4K & full view is an added bonus, you guys getting better with time just like vine, cheers !
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Thomas, what is your personal car? :)
The Homepage says a Jaguar XF and Jaguar XK.
What a terrible german.
Each day he has a new car
One with sense
An eloquent description of as near to perfect as a driving experience can be. A truly exquisite car.
Cheers!
I actually like the sound on start up. I've had one for 8 months and it's a joy. The performance is insane and you can see why Porsche had to hold back the Cayman cos it would smoke a 911 if they unleashed its full potential. And just look at it, inside and out it's stunning
Very very very motivational video, I have just receive my new 718 cayman today! Thanks for this absolutely brilliant videos! Very educative with accurate real guidance before buying one of these toys. Thanks for this great video! 😊
congrats =)
Best Cayman review on TH-cam.
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A 475 bhp 718 Cayman Turbo would destroy half of the 911s !
In Full HD Full screen and Full lenght !
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Keep up the good review!
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I absolutely love these reviews. Also (I am English) but I worked closely with Adam Opel AG for 10 years. The way you speak, act, and look is EXACTLY like my friend Dieter engineerings/design! Great!
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*Here is constructive argument (opinion)on why this does not sound like Subaru (or any other japan cars, you should be smacked for even comparing them, different beasts), not here to argue how "good" it sounds tho* but gotta say the car sounds like the best stock 4 cyl ive ever heard aside from alfa.
----Lets talk about 3 elements of sound. *Rhythm* (in this case we will use the engine's sound pattern), *tempo* (in this case we will use how fast it revs to high revs), and *pitch or note* i guess
1: pattern- is still porsche. The rhythm of the engine is the same (very noticeable in high revs, in low revs harder to hear but ill explain later)
2: tempo - basically revs to higher end about same speed as previous gen.
3: Pitch/note- It is *lower* and that is one of the most notable thing our ear picks up. IT SOUNDS LOWER PITCHED. is that *bad?* personally i say its just different. If you dislike this specific note, then you must hate a lot of cars with low pitches like AMG, and muscle cars :(
All of these elements *do not sound like subaru* BUTTT
*NOW HERE ARE THINGS THAT U HEAR THAT MIGHT BE WHY YOU THINK THIS SOUNDS LIKE SUBARU*
1. the initial patterns are not quite the same: There are some air blowing like noise in the very first few revs. If that matters *THAT* much to you then dont get this car and continue to bash on it as it rightfully deserves your bashing in this case.
2. the totality of the Volume is reduced. It is also a natural occurrence because we naturally thing higher pitch things are louder, when it really isnt. It just kinda shocks your ears more. kinda like how spicy tastes nice but its a sensation of pain.
personally i think this car is quite nice. *i wont say this is better sounding than flat 6, but it is simply different* WOULD be nice if its louder tho but keep in mind these are videos. Mics also do not pick up lower pitched things too well (depending on brand). I checked it out irl the other day, sounds damn damn loud.
I've just purchased a 718 Cayman.
What a beautiful little car.. It really is next level..
Nicely done, Thomas. Those non-leather seats are great, just what I would order. I'm assuming the doors dash and console still have the stitched leather, or is that also faux leather?
thanks! Good question, I was thinking about that myself as well. Dashboard and inside of the doors are usually more leatherette than anything else, even in the Mercedes S-Class, as it is more durable. Not sure in this case, let me scroll some price lists and configurators ... ;)
It's really hard to find out. My current guess is that in the standard trim, it is faux leather and if you go for some higher spec animal skin seats, that will also put it on the dashboard. That's what I take from the configurator descriptions
Yes, I did the same thing. I couldn't tell from the written description when I selected the Sport-Tex Seats, but the image on the doors changed to having aluminum trim and stitching. I think it upgrades to leather on the surrounding surfaces when choosing the Sport-Tex. Looking at your excellent HD close-ups, I'm inclined to think this is the case. Maybe in the future they'll offer the full faux interior, but for now, the Sport-Tex Seats are a step in the right direction. Thank you.
yes exactly. Best is standard trim with alcantara/faux leather where you should also have the faux dashboard then - and save some money :)
Dont understand why the cloth is more expensive than the alcantara as well
Great point!
Beautiful review. Best I've seen of the Cayman, and very clear on the add on extensions too.
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great review, beautiful car!
thanks bro!
Thank you for a proper review, much better than those 5-minute videos with some info from the manufacturers website and a few shots and not much more
+Dmitry L 🤘
great review !! thanks thomas
appreciated !
From all the reviews i have seen for the 2017 718 Cayman/Cayman S, yours is definitely the best. Thank you.
thanks keep recommending us!
Tomas is a really busy guy =)
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That color is absolutely STUNNING! 💙 I’m speechless. And jealous 😂😍
I would love the 911 with the cayman porportions
dacid kapura Then buy a Cayman!
Thanks for this review. I just bought this Cayman S with the same interior. Really fun to drive and so classic. I wanted to get a 911 but this car was beautiful and a solid ride on top of it. It has 20 inch Carrera Wheels...More solid than a 911...like you said, you become 1 with the car. Nice Review!
+Nicole Rubio enjoy ✌️
Finally it's here!!
Excellent review! Looking at the 2019-2020 models, this was very informative. Well done! 🧚🏻♂
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The Cayman is a wonderful car. The new 4 is a deal braker for me. It sounds like my BRZ. I would have to go with an older H6 car. Now if the 4 was around 40k vs 60k I would have to eat my words.
Perfectly said. F1 needs to understand how important sound is apart of our obsession for speed.
its 50k here
Good thing it IS 60 k with some simple packages MSRP (at least where I am. Even after converting to USD). But I added a some more and got a 110k one
I don't agree on the sound thing, and I think you are all in denial. Yes they don't sound as good anymore. But the major stigma around these cars were how slow they were. Yes they handled well, but they were slow. And I highly doubt any of you would gladly lose a race against something as mass produced as say an Audi s3, and tell yourself shortly afterward that "it's OK that I lost to a car worth $40k less than mine because it sounds better."
That's utter rubbish.
Gabatron...Who buys a Boxster to drag race? The Boxster is one of the best handling cars money can by. If you want to crush an S3 buy a 32k Mustang GT. There will always be a faster car than yours. There is no car you can buy in America that handles better than the Boxster. I am not talking about the numbers. Feel and precision it is at the top. That H6 was at the top for feel and precision also. The new 4 has more power but a bit of that sweetness has been lost.
The best reviewer in youtube so far... thanks for your videos from Spain!
gracias!
Wow, in the first part of this video the 718 sounds exactly like the Subaru WRX STi that I use to own. That isn't a bad sound, but if you close your eyes, I'd swear I was listening to a Subaru. I'm going to have examine this car closely at this years Werks Reunion.
TheVaughnShow more bang for the buck with your car STI
Many people say the looks are much better now but sounds like the Subaru performance car
Nothing at all wrong with the looks of eithir the 981 or 987.
Beautiful Cayman love the color and Thomas your presentation is spot on.
+Mark Day 👌👌
Really not so keen on the four cylinder car.
Then you'll hate the monopole plasma drive.
Great thorough review. I pick up my 718 Cayman S in October. Can't wait. I will be my first Cayman after 3 Boxsters and two GT's. Still have a RS!
+James Suttie thx and have fun! Why did u switch?
52 thousand euro's?!?! In the Netherlands it starts from 71 thousand euro's...
you can get a base model in Germany, thats maybe the reason. Also different taxes..
Maybe the equivalent of $35,000 euro for base model in Canada.
Bijtelling is a bitch. Base model is 55K in Belgium.
We pay $134,000 in Australia for the basic car. the :S" is almost 200k.
Yeah, prices are laughably expensive in Auz, no doubt about it.
The spec on this Cayman is absolutely perfect! A great mix of new colours/materials combined with the classic Cayman shape.
the 2016 flat six is better
Carl D Yeah the engine. Overall I would take the 718 tho
Miss the sound of the six...
After having owned several of the following Porsches; including 356, 356S90, 914 2.0, 944, 911's, and now the 718 Cayman "Base" Model with PDK, I can honestly say this is truly the most refined and exciting Porsche to drive, both on the motorway, track, and as a daily driver. Get over the "sound" and focus on the driving experience, which is truly exceptional. I enjoyed this review as well as the one for the Boxster S and believe that there is a true representation of the car's capabilities. I can tell you first hand that the "suggested" acceleration times are higher than I have had experience with in track timings.
thanks for the feedback!
Call the devil 😜
Your reviews are fantastic. I remember the 944 and 968. Both had 4 cylinder engines and were great performers in the day. My concern is with the cost. I bought a used 991 C2S for the same money as the new Cayman S. Porsche's biggest rival may now be with their own cars on the used market.
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looks like Volks Wagen Sciroccio from the back
Doesn't most everything?
Hi Thomas, just watched this older review because I just drove a 718 Cayman yesterday (a Valentine present from my girlfriend). More or less the same configuration as the Graphite Blue model in your review, but with PDK and a few more options like the sports exhaust, sports mode, Apple Carplay etc. And in gorgeous Lava Orange...
I agree with you when you say that the normal Cayman is just fine : the 300ps are more than enough to enjoy this car to the full. A very enjoyable experience, in any case. I can start saving now ;-)
thanks and nice present =)
If i bought this car and someone asks about the specs of the engine i well be embarrassed to say its 2 liter 4 cylinder engine
Yeah, But I wish the Golf R or S3 could at least sound like this. Sounds really good for a little 2l 4c :)
***** Oh I forgot that, thx :)
yes but from an engine that sounds like crap for a car like this and with the same displacement that a BMW one series diesel
+Jano Guell
Jano, I just had a look at your liked and favorite videos. After seeing what your taste in videos is, how can anyone take you comments seriously? I agree that the 718 doesn't sound as good as the previous engine, but by no means does the new engine sound crap - and in both versions, it puts out serious horsepower.
If you think it sounds like a diesel BMW, I suggest you buy the BMW. A Porsche would be wasted on you.
Ron Gambol I haven't liked any videos since decades ago, because basically I only want to se videos, and I don't no in what what kind of way the videos that I liked make that much influence in how seriously my comments should be taked with, but any way, that was just my personal opinion, yes I think that a bmw one series with a tunned exhaust sounds as much as good and I also think that such a small engine that produces 300 HP is going to have durability issues, but again that's just my personal opinion and probably I'm not correct. And I'm sorry if my comment had ofended you, seriously, I didn't mean to.
great review. I have a Cayman 2015 and I love it, always ready to please. I'm still a bit iffy on the turbo change, but that's the old aspiratited driver in me
Subaru or Porsche? My ears can't tell.
Don't stress. The view of the Porsche tail lights disappearing into the distance will give the game away.
It's incredible how many times I've seen almost an identical comment. Oh the sound, oh the 4 not 6. It's a better car than it was and it's less harmful to the environment. And in 20 years, good luck finding a V6.
Great review as always! I am watching this review for the second time before I pull the trigger and put in an order for Base Cayman today. Thank you very much for your great work!
Wow, that's cool to hear that you enjoy our review. Lets us know more if you got the car!
and dont forget to get fabric or alcantara seats =)
Exhaust sounds like your running a garbage disposal under water.