Is the New 2020 Nissan Titan PRO-4X a Much a Better Towing Truck? Surprising MPG Review!
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Don’t care if its towing capacity is only 9200 pounds compared to 11,000. Honestly if you are towing over 8,000 on a regular basis you should have a 2500 series truck.
D Hogg what frequency would you start to lean 1/2 ton then?
Alan Bowers I would say anything above 5k I would go to full size 1/2 ton. Midsize are fine up to 5k. To compare a Colorado with 7k to a ranger with 7500 is pointless because I wouldn’t. tow that much with either of them.
Agree, but "regular basis" is the key word there. Most 1/2 ton owners only tow occasionally, and for them that extra capacity can matter.
The Titan’s tow rating is a non-issue. Most higher trim crew cab 4x4 half tons are rated between 9k-10k lbs.
The 12k+ ratings on commercials are only available on lower trims and/or smaller cabs and/or 4x2 and/or special order packages you’d never find on a dealer lot.
My 15 F150 crew 4x4 with Max Tow (not just regular tow package) and 3.5 is only rated for 9600 lbs, and that is pretty much the same as Titan in the real world.
In the half ton world, everyone seems to gravitate toward the tow rating when payload is actually the most important rating, because it is the most commonly breached rating, and its the payload that is truly this Titan’s Achilles’ Heel.
So the same tow rating (pretty much) as my F150, but very different payload ratings - 1300 lbs payload for the Titan vs 1700 for my F150.
A 400 lbs difference doesn’t sound like much until you think about this: With only a 200lb driver, both trucks can tow about the same. To wit: Deduct the driver from Titans payload and you’re left with 1,100lbs capacity for hitch tongue weight. Assuming a standard 12% tongue weight backs you into a max trailer weight of 9,166 lbs; under Titan Tmax - already lower than the Titan’s advertised max (perhaps Nissan is assuming the use case of a horse jockey shuttling his own horses to and fro?).
But say I take my family with me, like I might if I were going camping, and the story changes dramatically.
With the 4 of us tallying about 420 lbs, Titan leaves me only 880 lbs. A 12% tongue weight backs me into a maximum trailer weight of 7,300lbs. Start adding cargo in the truck and that figure starts dropping even more, fast.
Compare to my F150, which would leave me with a 1,280 lbs payload after my family piles in (which is about the same as the Titan’s to begin with), and I can still tow up to 10,600lbs assuming the same 12% hitch weight (not that I ever would but the “headroom” is nice).
I have no doubt that in the real world both trucks will tow dang near equally well (towing is about way more than power to pull). But DOT and highway patrol will run the numbers just as I’ve shown above, and if you are over the payload limit, you are busted - even if you say “but officer, I’m well below my tow limit!”
It’s not just Nissan that is guilty of this diversion tactic, either. Think about the 4th gen Rams, where crew cab v8 4x4s carried a payload rating of 900-1,000 lbs max. Same assumptions as above mean that with your family along, you could be limited to a 4,000 lbs trailer max! Yet Ram catalogs for that generation still stated a towing capacity around 9,500 lbs in that trim. Wow!!
This is where it’s time to get real. If you went by the numbers alone, this suggests you’d be better off towing the family and camper with a mid-size than a 4th gen Ram full size. Substitute the Colorado’s 1,378 payload in Crew Cab 4x4 guise, for example, and you are much more compliant with the numbers in this scenario than with the Ram. Nuts, right?
So yes, Nisssn really did handicap their Titan’s ratings. But not the way people think. The tow rating is just fine, but the payload lets down the whole equation. I suspect they did this to preserve sales of the XD and provide self-validation for the XDs business case.
That said this is all just a keyboard comparison of the stats. In my case if I had the funds I’d trade my F150 on a new Titan in a heartbeat. Stats are just part of the equation, and I value the whole package, and would never tow more than 6500lbs with my family on board anyway, so it works for me.
Each person should do their diligence to determine what works for them, but the manufacturers and regulators (and media) obfuscate the details so that it’s too confusing for the average person, and many just end up relying on anecdotal information from sales people and advertising.
If you read this far I am grateful for your time and hope it had been helpful. That said, I suspect most folks watching this are gear head types and already know this, while the folks that need the info most may never see it. Oh well, we tried.
Have a great day!!
Edit: corrected some wording.
@@upshifter5316 The LTZ is rated up to 13200.
Most underrated half ton truck on the market IMO as well. I was never interested in this truck until I drove one and now I drive only nissan trucks . Thanks for the awesome review.
nissan trucks are top notch. ford, chevy, and dodge got mothing on this truck even if its made in japan
@@bugoykikay8074 it’s designed in Japan. Made in Ohio.
@@SPPTA actually its the only truck made in tx.
The Titan is manufactured in Mississippi
Do You still have the titan?? If you do how is it holding up??
I have a 2018 Titan XD Pro4X and it's fantastic---I tow a 34 foot Keystone Outback rated at 8,500 lbs when fully loaded with gear and water in the tank. Why did I buy the Titan XD? Price. MSRP was $53,000 and I got it out the door for $39,000, basically just shy of 25% off MSRP. Another big reason to consider the Titan: the 5-year, 100,000 bumper-to-bumper warranty.
What is your fuel economy pulling your camper? Very curious as I'm thinking about getting rid of my Dodge 3/4t.
How did u get it down to that?! I've been going to dealership and the best I've gotten is $48k for a 2021 Pro4x XD
9200 lbs is a perfect number for a 1\2 ton. Any more weight and you need a 3|4 ton anyway.
Bryan E -I agree and was thinking the same thing while watching this👍🏻
Yeah same goes for the Tundra. Who’s really going to tow over 10 000 lbs with a half ton? Very few. The ones who do probably tow often and should get a 3/4 ton so it’s not so hard on the engine.
@@evandickson19 I agree that 10,000 is enough for a half ton, for most people anyway. Problem with the Tundra is that its payload is so low that you'll never get close to its max towing in the real world. If you are considering one, be sure to check out the yellow door jamb sticker for the actual payload of the particular truck you are looking at, you're likely to find it can't haul as much as a midsize truck, or even a minivan.
@@plmn93 There's the inverse for the F-150. It has great towing and payload numbers for a half ton but if you load it up to near the GVWR the rear suspension is squatting way too much.
@@plmn93 This, 100%
The vk56 is such an underrated engine
I'm excited for the Frontier redesign!
Ravi Panjini I’m am to!
I am enjoy the 2020 Titan reviews from TFL...keep them coming!
I shall never skip an ad. I want to see y’all put out vids!
Please put this truck and the XD on the ike gauntlet ASAP
That truck is gorgeous.
Honestly I’d take this over the tundra. And yes I’d take the Frontier over the Tacoma.
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You are not alone in that thinking I can assure you.
Yep, same here.
i have worked in a few mines over the world and the Tacoma and Hilux surprisingly doesn't hold up to abuse like the Frontier.. in saying that the later Frontier diesel is no good while the Hilux 3L diesel is solid
@@joebrown9621 Joe, what is that issue I hear about with Toyota's Diesel Exhaust particle filtration, that a lot of Toyota owners are having real problems with overseas?
Have you heard about this really expensive issue?
The titans as always been underrated especially in power and towing great trucks
Glad to hear the Titan is doing well.
One of the best trucks out there and one of the most reliable.
So underrated.
Extremely good looking truck. And nice job on the solo video.
Was waiting for you to do a loop without hauling anything for mpg. Did a nice job
I’ve always liked the Titan, especially the Pro4X package. It has a very smooth quiet ride for an off-road truck (wonder how decibels compare to it’s competitors). Love the pano roof! Thanks again, Andre!
People complain how all the truck's can't match Fords 13k pounds or whatever but that's only with max out specs and I wouldn't feel safe driving a half ton with 13k pounds behind me......
I personally think that 13k rating is bullshit.
bud thedog I agree. I love my f150 but damn the truck only weighs almost 6k pounds how am I supposed to feel safe with more than double that behind me!! Although mines rated at 9k pounds like the majority of buyers.
Generally speaking, a truck built to handle 13K is going to handle 9K better than a truck rated for 9K. But yeah, 13K F-150s are unicorns built for marketing purposes. I'm pretty sure most aren't even rated for 10K. But the thing with F-150s is that once you step up from the 2.7 it's pretty easy to get enough payload to tow near its limit. So many trucks these days have pathetic payloads that will keep you from hitting their towing limits in the real world where you have passengers and cargo.
Silverado if rated highest. Not Ford. 2020 bumped to 13200
@@plmn93 the 13k rating is for the smallest available f150, a single cab 2 wd standard bed or long bed I think and not much else they basically she'd all that weight off for the trailer.
In the crew cabs they all have nearly identical ratings under. Not really sure why a fleet company would buy a half ton to tow 13k many just go ahead and buy an F250 or something like it. Just saw a tremor on the road that was cool.
well done Nissan, great looking truck!
I love how this thing freely revs. It is NOT afraid to get into its power band. This truck i feel like revs more than most, but i love that. My XD tows amazingly well.
Andrey, just remember the General Lee was painted Corvette Flame Red and that color is orange too.
Guys is Nathan OK, get worried about y’all when I don’t see you for a while. Great Video Andre, can’t put my finger on it, but as great as a truck as the Titan May be, just something about its looks I can’t get over, getting better though over the years.
Nathan’s fine he’s doing videos over at TFLnow: th-cam.com/video/K8nLVJnO8-w/w-d-xo.html
Nice Video. Nissan Titan is usually Underrated. This is a good truck!
For what I would use a truck for, I would buy this all day long over the Gladiator. I know, you can't fold down the windshield or remove the doors...but I also don't need an Advil after a road trip from the cabin noise in the Glad.
lol agreed!
It depends if the ford ,dodge and Chevy can tow more at the same price then it makes more sense to buy the other trucks.
@@pablochacon40 If you have the need to tow more than 9,000 lbs, you should really consider a heavy duty truck. It's not just about towing, it's also about stopping, suspension and frame. You will feel much more confident while driving, let alone safer. Good luck!
You touched the gas pump and then touched your mask 😂 great review though. The refresh seems like a worthy update. I love my '16 XD Pro-4X 5.6
And then touched his face!
Andre ( and for everyone), I don't want to be obsessed with COVID-19, but please don't touch your face (and the mask) if you didn't previously clean your hands. Stay safe, great job. Congrats. Greetings from Costa Rica
A 9,200 pound tow rating for a half ton Is really where all the half tons should be rated at. If you are going to tow much more than that you need to get a 3/4 ton or bigger.
TFL should consider a collaboration video with the BoostedBoiz. You guys are relatively close and could some reviews on their fleet. Great videos! Thanks!
I just got myself a 2019 Titan Crew Cab, and with the whole pandemic crisis I have not been able to drive it. Its just sitting in my driveway. I should have waited a little longer and i could have taken advantage of the new promotions going on with 5 month payment deferment. Either way I really want to get into a Pro 4X in this Red Alert red. It just an eye magnet.
I have my self a 2010 Nissan Titan and I’m in love with it very nice truck haven’t give me any engines or transmission problems it has 160k miles on it Ever since they came out on 2004 and I have had 3 titans a 2004-2006-Now a 2010
Hopefully Nissan will send TFLTruck the new XD next. The new styling and transmission (engine tuning, etc.) has me looking at the Titan XD Pro4X again. Why the XD version? Payload and Towing. Why Pro4X? Rear locker and other off road bits. Most half tons don't have the payload I want with the options I want and most 3/4 tons have more payload than I need.
I have a 16 XD 5.6 and absolutely love it. Forget about tow rating, my Hemi ran was rated at 10k and my Titan is 11k. The difference towing the same trailer is night and day. You cant even feel by 5k boat behind the Titan. Ride is better and more controlled as is the braking.
XDs are awesome. Pro4x XD all the way!! Great towing, luxurious comfort ride.
Have 2017 titan pro4x love it. Have 90k on it, might go trade up for a 2020, screen look way nicer.
My wife has a Nissan Rouge and I like it , i like Nissan the Altima lasts for ever! other then the transmission they use im very pleased with Nissan.
Yeah, their cvt ruins an other wise very good car
I really wanna see you guys take the Titan to Moab and do Ike Gauntlet videos. I know it's difficult during these times, but when you can, I'd really like to see that.
Very underrated trucks, not sure why people are always hating on them. Most of the previous generation titans went well over 200,000 many over 300k. As for the msrp you can get these things for way under sticker, throw in the best warranty in the business and it’s a no brainer if you’re like me and drive one 10+ years. If your the type that trades every 4 years then you maybe should buy something else for the better resale value.
Easy....it's an Asian truck
It's an Asian truck built here in the states.Toyota is an Asian company and they still sell plenty of vehicles.
We owned a ´16 titan XD 5.0l turbo diesel PR and it was nothing but mechanical and electrical issues since day one. After 2 years we were tired of the truck being constantly in the shop and traded it in and took a HUGE hit on depreciation. We replaced it with an ‘18 titan XD single cab 5.6l gas, and it has been worry free, 0 issues. I wish our first titan had been as reliable but I wasn’t the only one with issues and that engine was thankfully removed.
First year bugs? Maybe
@@joshc606 No, it's just that engine in general. Absolute garbage, avoid them like the plague.
@@WilliamStewart1 the only major issue i heard about on that cummins is the turbo kept blowing out the blow off valves which tbh is a simple fix this complaint is only the second one ive seen saying that cummins engine is junk tbh so im guessing for every 10 good cummins titan theres one bad one, thats just from accounts ive both read and talked to actual owners about, and ive had quite a few titan owners with the cummins come into my parts store for parts on other vehicles they own and of course i love the titan i like to ask them their opinions on it
Love my Titan XD Pro4x! It's great to have something different than everyone else. Underrated truck for sure.. example: I accidentally towed 13,800 pounds of loaded up 30 ft cargo trailer with my XD last year from Seattle, WA to Phoenix, AZ. Went over mountain passes, and long windy stretches and it was stable as can be. Never had a worry beyond the normal... Even had power to accelerate up the mountains, and heavy braking without fade or any issues. My old 2018 F150 3.5 had more power down low, but this XD wins hands down for stability and confidence. For any haters, my friend loaded the trailer, and I didn't realize I was towing that much until I hit the scales close to home.
“Accidentally” 😆
Good to hear that it can handle it! Was it the Cummins or 5.6?
Man I miss my 2017 Titan. Traded it after my wife was hit head on in her 2018 Murano. I loved that truck but loved her more. I definitely be looking for a new Titan after we get passed this crazy lock down.
Did she survived?
I bought a 2019 and i wish I would have waited one more year but the rebates and offers were so good. Mine has what this one has except the sun roof. Mine had tool boxes in the bed also. $44,000. I like sitting up in the seat also. Good video this is the first Nissan I have ever owned. I like it so far BUT whats not to like about a new truck....LOL
th-cam.com/channels/mZoB3FP4RKqJkvrWDmbdAQ.html
@William Vagabond I have one thing they do not tell you. 2018 can use any type of engine oil and the 2019 has to have Full Synthetic engine oil. If that makes a difference to you? Oil changes are more expensive. Rest is the same. Hold out for a 2020
@William Vagabond That could be because the salesman offered 5 free oil changes and told me I could pay to upgrade to full synthetic oil for an extra $90 bucks and the first time I went in I decided the full synthetic change and the service department told me that the 2019 could only take full synthetic oil so I went up front and told the salesman that and he went to the general manager and they agreed to give me all my free oil changes with free upgrades to full synthetic oil because the sales department had not been told of this change. I lucked out and I now have had it changed twice for free. That is all I know. I was told that the OEM cold not force a brand or type BUT the weight they could demand? Also they can't demand a brand of filters only that you use one? That what I am told. But for now it is free. Thanks for your email 👍.
Dick Tejano - If you are NOT using full synthetic to protect your substantial investment, then you need to be slapped!!! 👋
Good morning andres nice truck color excellent video great 👍 great job video excellent 💪💪💪💪🤝from New Jersey
Those are rather nice, and underrated. If for some reason I were to ever not buy a Toyota (I can’t imagine why that would be, but if) I would definitely like a titan.
Great review. Thank you for doing the review and not that kid.
Just bought one last week. Agree with seating position and camera, otherwise it is a great truck.
TFL please do a video on if a panoramic sunroof vs no sunroof is better or worse insulator for cold vs hot. Maybe use are bad ass Canadian friend to help with the cold test? Would be a great video.
These are so underrated. That said, Nissan should add the 4WD auto capability mode Ram has in the 1500's. Sometimes drivers want the added safety of 4WD auto up here in the midwest snow belt. 4WD auto only kicks in when you need it and puts less wear on the 4WD high gearing such as you will do in a Titan. In 4WD auto you can hit highway speeds with no problem. The Titan max speed in 4WD high is 62 MPH.
Nicely done as always. Topping off again. Need a warning on the truck. “We pumped the charcoal filter full of fuel on this truck”
One quick fill after the initial shut off isn't gonna contaminate the evap canister with raw fuel. It's only gonna do that IF you fill it to the bottom of the hole and your vehicle is parked just right on an incline.
k w actually in many instances it does just that. Having replaced an ombré of gas filled canisters it’s been my experience
@@06colkurtz usually what happens is the canister fills up with dirt and crap and doesn't vent properly resulting in a slow to fill/pump shuts off prematurely customer complaint, but yes it can happen
I have to say that model/color makes for a sharp looking truck.
i am a fan of Nissan. I have owned several Nissan Cars and all have been great vehicles. I have tried to be a Nissan Titan fan but can't seem to get there. The price of the Titan XD with the Cummings diesel was north the F-250 with a Power Stroke. The Powerstroke dwarfed the 5.0 Titan Diesel in power, towing and payload.
Granted, the test truck has all the bells & whistles but it is overpriced IMO. For similar money, you can have a F-250 XLT with premium package and Godzilla 7.3 V8 muscle. The 6.2 and 7.3 F-250 gas out perform all on regular fuel. Still, I love the look and I am cheering for Nissan to kill it with their full size truck on of these days. For some reason, they just cannot capture market share.
Nice video Andre
Agree 100% seating position is funky for tall guys. Wish the seat would lower maybe an inch/two? Engine sound makes up for any complaints :)
Great Review !! Grats Nissan!!
Nearly had a seizure trying to read the title of this video...
Danny Mac Thought I was the only one🤣🤣🤣
I came here for the sole purpose to comment FIX THE TITLE but instead I'll up vote your comment.
Same here lmao
Want to see you guys do the XD and have it maxed out to see how it does.
Ya know, I just did some research. That tow rating is actually really good. I have a 4X4 RAM 1500 crew cab short bed, it has a 8,300 lb tow rating. That Titan Pro 4X King cab or Crew cab has a 9,200 lb tow rating.
The "actual" towing ability of trucks is fascinating. Everyone bases tow rating off of what they hear on TV, or where ever. F150 states towing up to 13-14k lbs. HOWEVER, that is only on a very specific model. They model that is a long box, standard cab, no 4 wheel drive.
The model that everyone gets with crew cab, short box, 4x4, massaging seat, etc.... is more like 11k at best. My titan XD is 11k towing, but i guarantee that it will handle that 11k so much better than the f150. I'll trade slower acceleration any day for better stability.
Although this truck is very nice..I own a 2017 Titan!! I've always said my Titan tows like a train and rides like a cadillac!! I tow my 24 ft...travel trailer all day long and barely feel it behind my Titan..I love my truck..
I have a 2017 titan and one of the things I wish Nissan would have done differently was had more choices of rear end sizes. I towed a 7000lb camper over 400 miles up mountains and was that truck straining. I can't complain too much I got 10 mpg. I just wanted the truck to be comfortable towing that load.
I bet you could get $20-25k off right now in disaster market . This is buy time in
My book 😆 just bought Acura MDX for less than a Honda equal
Nice emoji. A collapsing economy is hilarious.
What year MDX? You like it?
I got $12,000 off a new 2020 Ram 1500 Crew Cab Laramie, plus a 7 year 100,000 mile warranty for just $5.00 more a month on my payment which is 0% for 84 months. 90 days no payments. They even gave me $26,000 for my 2017 GMC Canyon Crew Cab SLT after they offered me $22,000. It was the deal of the century and they are desperate. I did it all over the phone. I also put zero down. They delivered it, signed the contract and they drove away with my old truck. Easiest deal ever. It literally took 20 minutes for me to have the truck and they took off. No way you are getting $20,000 off this overpriced Nissan btw but you could get a really good deal if you act like you are not interested. They lowered it, lowered it basically to match the same payment I had with the Canyon. It was comical.
I doubt you'd get that much, but you'd definitely have once in a lifetime buying power.
I'm waiting to scoop up a used titan in a few months. Bet they drop 5k in 5 months.
You're right! That payload isn't bad, it's terrible
Comparable to other off road oriented trucks,
TFL what do you think of this as an long range overland rig in a King Cab with a 4-6” lift, new bumper, and 35-37s?
Titan is very tempting due to standard 'good engine' instead of penalty box base engine in other trucks. You can get some good deals - much better than GM, which I've given up on. BTW, not to harp on this but TOW/HAUL is important on highway driving because it prevents torque converter lockup so that the clutch doesn't burn out - that was its original reason for being.
In the words of Jeremy Clarkson...POWER!!!!
At 5' 16" I feel your pain Andre. The Nissan and the Toyota are not for people much over 6 feet tall. As always, great review 👍
J. G. Hahaha I’m the same height, and when I heard his review of the seating position I realized that as much as I would like to buy this truck, it’s not for me. I hate cars/ trucks that have the rear view (center) mirror so far down on the windshield. It drives me crazy. The only thing worse than that is not having a seat that will at least lower you to a reasonable height. The Tacoma is the same flipped way.
Pro4x is cool but can get the SV with 400 hp, 4wd, towing pack, adaptive cruise, heated seats, crew cab, and apple carplay for just over 50K. Thats 10K less than a similarly equipped domestic, and nissan dealers are already taking 10k off msrp. Hell of a lot of truck for 40k
$60,000 is too much. But who pays msrp anyway. In a year or two you’ll see these pro-4xs in the $40,000s like I saw some 2019 models for really cheap. If I didn’t get my ranger I would definitely be interested in the new pro4x!
Fully loaded leftover 2019 Pro-4x here for $38k. I'll wait until this time next year and get a 2020 lol.
Lokyr00 exactly! You could probably even have them go lower then that a little even!
Lokyr00 - yep, I’m buying one in 2021 and i am shooting for the $35k - $39k price point! I currently drive a 2005 Nissan Titan (that I purchased new) with over 250k trouble-free miles as a daily driver and that engine still brings a smile to my face. These trucks are extremely durable and they come with a 5 year / 100,000 mile warranty!
Bacnow that’s good! They are very underrated. I may look into them depending on how much I like the bronco
MSRP on that truck should be $46k, then purchase for $38k...
i actually top off because of tfl🤣🤣🤣 that hitch is awesome. if i towed I'd want it.
Nissan trucks are just perfect for hauling but the part that I like is the driving of the truck everywhere
W/ depreciation should make for a great bang for the buck purchasing used with low miles
Time will tell if this Nissan 9 speed is durable or not. Maybe the Ford/GM 10 speed would have been worth a consideration
Our dealers in Denver area have these marked down $8-10k right now. If I didnt have a 2017 I'd go get one
11.9 mpg towing?! My Suburban only gets 8.6 unladen!! I'm in the wrong truck. Oh, and love the background music. DX Commander uses that same tune to kick off his live streams.
Amazing truck love it
Regarding towing numbers, compare a Pro4x towing number to a Ram Rebel and Trailboss, the numbers are a lot closer then the numbers journalist tend to use which are for standard 1500s, Nissan doesn't get it's fair shake man
It actually should be the best
15:57 Tall people problems. For me, also 6'2'' the temperature up there by the headliner is significantly warmer when you're that close on a summer day. You definitely feel the heat.
Looks like a nice truck... love that rear pop-out step! I think Toyota’s getting left behind when it comes to interiors especially their trucks
Glad to see the Titan is still getting 11mpg. My ‘04 gets 11mpg year round, regardless of how I drive. Gotta love the spice the 5.6 has though. I have headers and a tune and it rips around town.
thats 11.9 while towing a load the new titan far better without the load than the first gen body style titan in fuel economy and thats the 2016 body style titan and the new current one
Just took our 2021 on a 3k mile trip and the display showed 19.9mpg for the whole trip (no towing). Parts of the trip were 2 lane highway with speed limit of 65mph and the display had climbed to 20.6mpg for a good portion of the trip.
The wind in Texas an Oklahoma dropped it back to under 20 but I'm happy with it.
Honestly the improvements Nissan made turned it into a decent truck. This has made it into my top 3 of trucks I would buy.
My list is
1.Ford
2.Toyota
3.Nissan
4.GM
5.Ram
One engine is all you get? That is more than good enough if the engine puts out 400 horsepower and 413 foot pounds of torque. And it seems to rev to redline FAST!
but it only gets that if you use premium most expensive fuel. you use 87 octane it only gets like 300 something horsepower
@@jamescalvert240 390hp and 394ft lbs of torque
Do a white pro-4x xd towing 5000lbs travel trailer
Andre, how many cycles can the Gen Y hitch take before failure?
I love that truck, seems very capable
So when are you redoing the 1989 f350?
badass truck, only thing missing a front guard and beefy mickeys wheels
Does Nissan still recommend putting the truck in 4th or 5th gear while in tow mode like the previous generation?
I would tKe this over the Ford, looks better, sounds better and most of the time Nissan has better discounts. Plus from what I’ve heard online it handles the 9k lbs better than it should.
Thank you so much for mentioning the seating position. I feel like I am sitting in a high-chair with some of these vehicles. It's ridiculous. Why do they make the seats sit so high?
troy Jefferson short people visibility
Because it's more comfortable. Ever been in a Tacoma? It's like sitting in a lifted Corolla with your feet splayed out in front of you. Horrible for long drives. The chair-like seating position is one of my favorite features of full size trucks.
I can tell you that I find it extremely more comfortable to have my legs out in from of me, like being in a recliner then sitting in a booster seat. I've rode in a Tacoma for a round trip at about 10 hours and was pretty dang comfortable, used to do it in an old square body S10, really loved it's seating position. But it does seem like most older guys prefer a straight up seating position but it kills my back and butt after an hour to be like that.
can you switch it to a tow mirror?? would the set up affect the 360 degree camera ??
Привет!) Ниссан хорош. Stay safe, take care! Nissan is a real alternative.
Do you have to tow with tow mode on? I have a 2022 pro 4x and have a camper that is around 5000lbs. I was in tow mode but I wondered if it was really necessary.
I want one just like this one.
It would interesting to see 0 to 60 in the Polaris on the pavement at your test track.
I LOVE the redesign! I wish though it had a few things such as a heads up display, better camera quality (also, noticed the lag), same tailgate step like the F-150, a longer bed about 7ft, about 3in higher off the ground and a larger fuel tank option like the F-150 (36gal). At least give us the option to add these things.
Good Morning My Good Friends Of The Fast Lane Trucks God Bless You All & All Of You're Whole Families Today From You're Good Friend Timbo White
I hope to rebuild the Armada family cars, with the same design and structure as Titan
Nissan does weird things, wouldn’t be surprised if they put the Cummmins diesel in the Armada
What's the HP and Torque , fuel economy when running 87 octane fuel? Pretty sure most of us don't like forking out the big bucks for premium fuel??
Its not a new engine...its just some tuning made to the old one. I have a 19 Pro4x and its a pretty stout truck. Look at some of the drag race vids on this channel..the Titan motor gets alot of respect.
I like this truck, I really do, but correct if I am wrong the payload on Pro 4x is only 1260 lbs, which is a total joke for a 1/2 ton truck. Before saying that this is off-road, my ZR2 -- a midsize, purpose-built for heady-duty off-roading -- has the factory payload of 1240 lbs. Compare that with another 1/2 ton off-roader, Trail Boss with the payload of around 1640, and I would have to pass on this truck unfortunately.
Wish they had the option for the older grill style I am appalled by the new one, my 87 f250 still keeps up with the big dogs with it's 4.9L straight 6 and some pretty heavy gearing 5.16 rear T18 manual gearvender od 4x4 service truck still gets about 18 highway 14 city towing gets about 16 highway with 6K pounds
@William Vagabond I miss my 06 loved it plenty of power 4 door short bed 4x4 base model for 26K
I'm a Chevy man, yes those Ford 4.9l 300s can still get modern day truck mpgs with the best of em w/o the need of 7,8,9 speed autos and can clocked to 500,000 miles like a diesel cause Ford overengineered em. If Ford produces those engines again i definitely buy one. Oh and the Titan trucks are something to consider to buy for your budget.
How does it compare to a regular titan. That model is too expensive. Really looking forward to seeing you guys react to any of the full sized suvs. With the excursion being roumored to return, hope you can get one of those as well.
@William Vagabond can it pull the same amount? I have a big boat. Heavy and 12 feet tall sitting on the trailer
sketchyssk8shop Yeah pretty much the exact same. I also consider getting one.
The motor is the same...a simple tune upgrade increases the power. The seats and stitching look the same as my 19 pro4x...all the bed lighting is the same. Some good upgrades but alot of the same .. which I like.
Looked at these 2020 pro 4x trucks recently but the dealers are only carrying ones that are $60k discounted to 52k still thats alot.
I think I've narrowed down to Ford V8 or Toyota Tundra. Ford would be F250 V8. Not sure what wheel base to get or some of the other technical options I should hunt for.. Damn doing a build and two V8s Ugh. Which exile ratio?
Now that production has restarted at Ford, I just put my order in for an F250 spec'd out with the Tremor pkg and other farkles...right around $55k (not including tax), so...to each, their own.
andre you use a mask but then you touch your brow when you get back in the truck. take some sanitizer. much respect and i always enjoy your reviews
It was funny to hear Andre reference the tailgate applique, as Roman & Tommy had a difference of opinion. If I recall correctly, that's 2 votes for applique (Roman & Andre), 1 vote from Tommy for not an applique. The winners are clear. Sorry Tommy. LOL