Great video. I love the looks. They should make the pro 4x looks optional on other trims instead of old man chrome. I bet the pro 4x look would sell so many times more. Engine and transmission are great. Fantastic upgrades.
The Titan forums will tell you the OE Grabbers weakness is mud. Great on road behavior for a 33”, since it’s p metric not LT, but at the expense of mud traction. Here in the dessert no precipitation, no mud, no problem.
I think maybe a revised front fascia to improve the approach angle would be pretty helpful, as well as optional rock rails to put away those silly side steps.
Y'all should keep in mind that most owners will not take their truck into some serious off-roading trails. Most truck owners these days buy 'em as a status symbol with ridiculous fancy wheels and flat style [low profile] tires.
That was kinda painful to watch. You're not rock crawling, mud requires momentum not stop go stop go. I'm not a huge Nissan fan but that truck could've went further.
They do alot of unnecessary stop and go on alot of obstacles, seemingly right when a vehicle is about to make it, but maybe its because they dont want to tear the vehicle up since it isnt theirs. Still painful to watch him drive though lol.
Hes worried about the damage to the skidplate being more than what might be allowable for a test truck. You saw his face when it was crunching those rocks in the back up lol.
It looked like a what not to do off road video. Going through the mud so slow the tires cant clean out . then backing up hill in deep ruts while turning the wheel sharp? Why???
I agree. I've seen total mudding virgins do way better. Also, who the hell comes to a complete standstill and literally parks the truck in the worst/most technical area?
he stopped way to early, it would have made it, TFL, is very very critical of nissan , they are never of chevy , ford or ram, and they suck up to toyota, like saying nissan needs premium fuel for top power ratings, well gm's 6.2 also needs premium fuel for there power ratings, but never say that , and look at their video of razor rocks, with titan and trail boss and titan made it look easy going over them and trail boss struggled, but put down titan, and praised trail boss,
I was thinking of that exact video. Both trucks got through the obstacle, but the Nissan cruised through it with ease while the Trail Boss was awkward in places. Both nice trucks, but let's give Nissan credit here. The new Titan is seriously underrated, but I worry its sales won't increase because it has the stigma of being an "also-ran" truck when it is actually really competitive now.
I just watched that video...I haven't seen the nissians interior in person yet but the GMs is garbage. It certainly does seem like they love hating on the nissian.
Keep in mind these are press vehicles and TFL is trying not to damage them. I agree though the Titan would have made it through but I understand Steve stopped when he did.
I have seen tfloffroad take a 4 runner through heavy 3inch ice. But bail on this Titan at the deepest point when it wasn't challenged yet. I enjoy the reviews but this seemed biased IMO. That Titan would have finished if you let it.
This could potentially have to do with what the manufacturer does/does not let them do. Some of them say go ahead and take it on difficult stuff and don’t care about damage, while some may. Not sure if that’s the case here or not, but could be.
You only ever mentioned being in four high, I'm curious if you ever switched to four low and locked that rear differential when you were trying to get out of the shit?
So many trucks have been through those ruts that the center is so high won't be long no stock trucks will be able to get through there. Don't blame the Titan, seems like a decent truck. 😎👍🤙🇺🇸
Agreed. Stop and go. Stop and go. You don’t just stop in the middle of ruts and mud. Momentum is needed. Plus the tires suck. Put an actual AT or better and you’d be fine.
This guy is a terrible driver. No momentum and you could tell he was nervous by how hard he is breathing. Which shows he doesn’t know what to do. Learn to drive off road bro.
What's better than one TFL video on a Sunday morning? Two videos from TFL on a Sunday morning!! Great video content as usual bro!! Stay safe out there!!
Stephen, you have run the 4Runner TRD Pro through that in ICE and thrashed on it. Proving it can handle the hard stuff. I feel you must've got slapped down for that and are not allowed to bang the newbies up anymore. lol. While I agree press vehicles should be respected, people have come to your hydro Line tests to get the real deal feel. lol. You know that truck would have done it had you not been tethered back.
If I were doing an off-road/overland model, the interior would have neoprene seats; waterproof switches, controls and entertainment system. There'd be easily removed carpet, with rubber pad and/or bedliner coated floorboards with drain plugs. Also, I'd partner with aftermarket suppliers to offer dealer installed suspension lift/upgrades, bull bars, swing bumpers (with spare mounts), upgraded armor, dual battery, on-board air (CTIS?), exterior aux lighting, maybe a smallish built in frig, awning, upgraded tires, etc. Leave the leather, fancy stitching and fake roll bar for other models.
I think if Nissan had thrown on some of the General Grabber A/TX tires you would have done better in the mud. But they also probably went with something that was going to be a little less aggressive, even though it's their off-road variant, not everyone will be using it as such.
A lot of people talk about off roading and their trucks never even see terrain rougher that a parking lot. I’ve been through some stuff others would think twice about in a 2wd xterra. The Titan gives you a locking rear which a lot of trucks don’t come with and has LSD which a lot of trucks don’t come with also. The main thing people need to know about taking the beaten path is to drive smart, think about your approach and good AT or mud terrain tires and clearance are more important than anything else when off road.
The Titan would have gone through that, my 2019 Titan gets me through much worse when hunting, but you have to be confident, definitely had your mind made up about the truck before you tried, the wind dam on my 2019 F150 is lower than my Titan and would have been dragging a lot more, and ford put Pirelli Scorpions on it, now they were bad, I do agree with Daniel S. it seems the media is biased toward the Nissan, too bad they are great trucks.
The guy didnt even put it in 4 low because 4 low disables the traction control in the new ones., im also doubting he ever used the lockers. Yhis whole review seems like a set up
I've always been a Chevy/GM fan but I bought a Titan this year...and I don't regret it one bit. Titan is assembled here in America and most parts for it are manufactured here too (more than any of the Big 3). Comparatively, it is actually MORE American than those 3. I smoked a Silverado just the other day, 2nd day off the lot lol. Also, I can absolutely get that truck, with those tires through that mud...this demonstration was thrown BC we can't hurt the media vic.
I have a 2019 px4 titan. The driveline is great, but like any stock truck, the main limiting factor is clearance. You could put a 8" lift fit on a AWD tesla and get through these trails no problem. When you are in mud and ruts, clearance is king and way more important then locking diffs as both tires are spinning freely though the open diffs.
Absolutely! That skid plate is tough, 1/4" think aluminum with even thicker welded, gusseted brackets (I've installed these on Titans before) would have been fine against the mud and grass, that's what it's made for!
For all those saying that Steve gave up too early, you can hear the first full send where he smashed the bumper, which is not a good thing to do especially in a press car. Therefore, to stop when it’s stuck, Steve made the correct decision to not damage the car further.
That truck needs wrangler duratracs. I like the tow hooks and the driver side grab handle on the A pillar...you hear me Toyota?? Nice truck but I just got a 20 TRD OFF ROAD Tundra. I get my truck in September. I went with reliabilty and Quality of Toyota. Stephen, you really do put the trucks thru their paces. You probably could have kept going. I would make my Tacoma do it.
The Ford is much better for the money in my opinion. It also seems like nissan stole a few details from Ford and Ram for this truck. Like the 2 tone tailgate similar to the Ram Rebel and Ford Raptor and the offroad screen on the gauge cluster that displays vehicle and steering angles that come on Fords FX4 packages. Also for 2020 we should be expecting MUCH better fuel mileage. Nissan is so far behind in the truck game, its unbelievable. Resale value for the Titan is also the worst out of all 1/2 ton light duty trucks coming in at 6th behind the Tundra, F150, Silverado, Sierra, and Ram.
Have a 2017 S RWD, took it's first run through the ice in Texas that hit a few weeks back. Absolutely no traction whatsoever, slid perpendicular in the middle of this back road that sloped on both sides into culverts. Backed up to ditch, put it in 1st gear and through 6inches of ice it got traction and made it up a hill. Full believer in operator but I get he didn't want to break anything and pay for it.
The engine and transmission are excellent, the truck is very quick. No cylinder deactivation, no auto stall, no turbos. The infotainment system is very good also. Seats are comfy but they sit too high in the vehicle and the wheel doesn’t tilt down far enough. Camera clarity needs to be improved. I have had mine for about a month.
The Titan will make it. You can’t stop in the deep mud you will sink keep forward momentum. I have an 18 pro 4x and have made it through deeper soup. Also it’s all about the experience of the driver and their experience with the truck.
If you go into the menu you can turn off emergency braking and it will keep the parking sensors off. (Must be done every-time you restart the truck) You can also add the Icon Vehicle Dynamic suspension system which gives you a 2” lift and it also rides much better on the road. I just upgraded mine at the dealer and it keeps the 100k warranty. The difference is significant over the standard Billstiens.
@@rockrunner387 Even in those states you have options. Most states just say it has to be visible but you're not limited to the factory mounting location. I think it's quite stupid that Nissan would put a lp frame hanging that low on the 'off road' trim though.
Thanks for the video! I just bought one to upgrade from my 2005 Titan! But never planned on doing much mudding. Some light occasional hauling, but that's it. How is it on payload?
You could have pushed through it. The SKID PLATE you kept calling the bumper was wider than the middle of the track and is ment to skid along when needed. I'm surprised you didn't gun through it like you usually do with the other brands. Turn off traction control and offroad that thing. It's made for it. Keep up the great work you do! I test drove a SV with all the bells and whistles. It was a beast. I really like the steering being a little heavy (like a truck) and it had an over abundance of power. Comfy and good visibility compared to Chevy. Good interior. I'll probably go with a Pro4X trim as I off road often. Discounts and deals should bring these down at least 10k
I feel like he ruined this review on ourpose because if he had it in 4 low the traction control automatically disables so he never had it in 4 low and i start to doubt the rear locker was ever on either
I really hope this truck sells well this year. It’s a underrated Offroad machine. Next time I’m on the market for a new truck, the titan pro4x is going to be at the top of my list
With nissan struggling, I had my fingers crossed that the titan would be the best truck deals of 2020, but I was wrong, the prices are a bit much for what they are going through. The SL 4x4 here is going for 60k here, I can get a nice equipped ram for almost 20k less.
I like it. More comparable to Chevy Z71 and Ford FX4. A 2 inch lift and some real tires would probably transform this thing. Same can be said for the Z71 and FX4. Do you think 35"s will clear the factory fender wells? They seem pretty tight.
I own a 2011 Titan Pro-4x. Mine has a mini-lift (+2" coilovers up front, +1" blocks in back, Fox 2.0 shocks all around) and more aggressive tires and it makes a massive difference in the off road capability of the truck. I drive a lot of trails pretty similar to this and never got stuck.
This is one of the most capable half tons on the market. First tip, you want 400 horses.....traction control off. Second the truck has a badass locker in the rear. I own an 18 and its a beast in sticky situations. I have a 2 inch leveling kit and Mts and no locker.
I think you would have needed more clearance than just about every truck in the market to make it over that rock while in the ruts. I do think those tires are only okay.. Put some Falken Wildpeaks on it and that would be a much better rig for the hydroline.
I was going to buy a titan exacty like this one with options. But got a different full size truck instead. But its a big difference over previous models.
As others have said, the only thing that was holding it back was the tires. If you were going to be doing hydroline regularly it might make sense to open the Nissan accessories catalog and get those Icon dampers that give you a 3 inch lift. But it is probably not needed for the sort of off roading most people do.
I'm so glad my ZR2 has no parking or reverse sensors, that would be so annoying on the trail. That Nissan would do great with a lift and some aggressive tires.
Ya know, this video makes me feel like this was an off road truck designed by an excel spreadsheet. They just went down the list of what others had done, and gave it many of the parts that others had. While having no off road understanding or experience. The parking sensor behavior is the perfect example.
Tires would definitely help, but I am sure the stock tire choice was made with fuel economy in mind. I know that won't make sense to some people because this is an "offroad" version of the truck, but more aggressive tires and removing the air dam would impact the mileage. Manufacturers have a lot to balance when making these choices.
The Trail Boss is no match for the Titan, it's open diff on the front, and yes, auto rear locker but once the rear lost all the traction the the front diff will also if it doesn't have enough traction. The Titan has rear locker and front ABLS which has the advantage over the Trail Boss except it's not lifted.
I have one pro 4x....best truck I never owned period......talk and laugh all you want but if you want the best American made truck.... it the Titan ...it more American made than the other big 3....love it... made in the USA 🇺🇸
great video Stephen ,this Titan Pro -4X for 2020 has allot of strengths over previous years and competitors, the powertrain especially, 60:1 crawl ratio is the best over any other full size truck by far, the only thing stopping it and you from going further up the trail was the tires and you said it at 2:53 all terrain tires is the Achilles heel of this truck when it comes to your hydro trail , which in my opinion is one of the best used on youtube reviews and the 2nd one was you do not own the truck and are being responsible for it, I know i did almost 9 yrs in the industry myself , the rest of this truck is kicks ass over the competition, in almost every way and have heard the sound system its sick and rocks out play some of your dads old favourite tunes and he'll tell you Hell yeah brother, Nissan could have gone a step farther and did like Chevy Trail Boss and used lift blocks on the body and gain instant 2" of lift and tires and it will have the same ability off road with the same tires , I'd say buy it and go aftermarket lift that is a quality package that keeps your front end geometry correct and off road tires going up to 35's of your choice and you'd be set for the next 10/12 years, the only truck to outlast it would be a Tundra TRD Pro great video once again Stephen, your thoroughness is your strength 👍
I don't think you gave the Titan a fair chance you basically went into the rut and said oop we are done. Mudding is all about pushing farther and you didn't push at all
Interesting video to be sure,..but I really wonder, how many actual Nissan Titan owners would bother to take their trucks into the back country like this? It's a valid question, is it not? If I owned a Titan, and I did want to drive on trails like this, the very first things I would buy and have installed would be tires ( and perhaps wheels ) that are made for these conditions. I'd bet that it's a great on-road driving and handling truck. Now I wonder when is the new bodied Nissan Frontier coming out,..there, should be a nimble truck for a on and off road driving,.... I hope!
I own a 2018 Pro 4x and I take my truck on various trails throughout Arizona. I ditched the stock tires around 5k miles for Falken Wildpeaks AT3s and I'm still riding on stock suspension. It's a simple truck, nothing fancy or gimmicky, and it has more than enough power for what most people use it for. Let's be honest, the full size truck market is now geared towards a wider range of people who don't really need a full size truck.
Let's all be clear here. There's a fine line between driver ability and vehicle ability. You never just slam on the brakes when entering a deep rut. That's just asking for problems in any stock off roading truck
I love the design and that color! Those Nissan V8's just sound so good. All new trucks just seem so overpriced though. Thats why I have a 2011 Titan still going 💪!
1 or 2 more inches of clearance and some better A/T or mud tires you would most likely have a better off roader. Thanks for sharing TFL and Stephen for the review and video.
not being able to actually turn off teh sensors annoys the hell outta me, specially the reverse on as I use mine to to a trailer and when i am trying to hurry up and back in a driveway off a busy road and it senses the trailer as I am back it up it locks up the breaks then I have to stop and turn it off and have almost been hit over that. that won't ever be fixed though as they discontinued the Titan
Have a 19 pro x. And the general grabbers suck. They turned like hockey pucks when the temperature drops sure They lasted for 2 yrs but horrible in mud and snow just upgraded to Firestone. AT2 will find out if there any better when the snow falls. But come on guy that truck would of went through that little bit of mud.
I'm with you on the sport bars, don't like them on any truck. Also any off road model should not have step bars, if they were somehow integrated into sliders that would be OK. I do like the new Titan though. Thanks for the vid!
The XD sits 2” taller, not sure why they didn’t do the same with the normal Titan. I’ve got the 21 xd pro4x and no issue. The skid plate is also the best in the biz.
I like the improvements for sure. Definitely needs a lift and that front skid plate moves far too much which makes me think its just for looks, not a solid bash plate. Speed would have helped but when it's not your truck you have to make that call. Keep up the good work love the content.
Tires tires tires. Nice truck. I’d lose the bars in the back. It would have made it but you can’t be damaging the press vehicle so it was wise to stop. I’m waiting for the new Frontier. If they make it slightly larger I’ll be happy.
You chose to take street tires into 9+” m in deep mud. You got what you asked for. Almost stuck. And then the Titan DID manage a 3-pt despite the way you tried to get it out of the track. Yes, street tires aren’t Moab or foot deep material. How did the Titan do for 5800 lbs and street tires? Damn fine!!
Was he trying to crawl through mud? And with the locker off? Turn the parking sensors off in the settings, its an option. Bad media for the Titan. 🤦♂️
I currently have a 2021 Titan Pro4x and can say that they are pretty decent offroad. But... the 9 speed trans absolutely sucks and has a ton of issues. Also if you find yourself in deep mud or sand the trans will bog down and wont give you any kind of real poer to get out of the situation. The stock Bilstien struts are absolute garage and give the worst ride ever on highway and will need to be replaced with upgraded Icon or Bilstien struts. There are a bunch of Titan fb pages you can join to see for yourself all the issues. About the only thing i love about this truck is the Fender sound system. Oh and fan clutch will have to be replaced close to yearly, otherwise it sounds like an airplane on every acceleration and loses power.
American AF! Terrible? Idk what you have been looking at. It has the better angles and TFL has taken it through the hydro line already and it actually could go through the course.
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Great video. I love the looks. They should make the pro 4x looks optional on other trims instead of old man chrome. I bet the pro 4x look would sell so many times more. Engine and transmission are great. Fantastic upgrades.
The Titan forums will tell you the OE Grabbers weakness is mud. Great on road behavior for a 33”, since it’s p metric not LT, but at the expense of mud traction.
Here in the dessert no precipitation, no mud, no problem.
A lot, really a lot of 5,6 the engine knocking. 2016 to 2019, probably 2020 too !
What a pile of crap that is a throw away
Floor it threw 4 feet water and see if she will make it
Fat man on Nissan that is so funny
8:23 - Full Send, slams bumper/skid plate into the ground
11:38 - "I'm really worried about that bumper" 😂
This sums it all up perfectly. Truck would have done fine going through that.
It would really be nice to see someone who actually knows how to go through the mud. Number 1 rule while mudding you don't stop!
I think Titan did great, all it needs better offroad tire and few more inches of ground clearance. It's 4x4 system is not lacking.
2.5 inch lift on it be better truck
gmc sierra2015 Nissan offers a dealer installed suspension lift by Icon Vehicle Dynamics.
I think maybe a revised front fascia to improve the approach angle would be pretty helpful, as well as optional rock rails to put away those silly side steps.
My thought exactly. Prepping it for the terrain it called for. Nice grabblers and adequate lift.
Y'all should keep in mind that most owners will not take their truck into some serious off-roading trails. Most truck owners these days buy 'em as a status symbol with ridiculous fancy wheels and flat style [low profile] tires.
That was kinda painful to watch. You're not rock crawling, mud requires momentum not stop go stop go. I'm not a huge Nissan fan but that truck could've went further.
They do alot of unnecessary stop and go on alot of obstacles, seemingly right when a vehicle is about to make it, but maybe its because they dont want to tear the vehicle up since it isnt theirs. Still painful to watch him drive though lol.
Yeah, and with an inch or two of lift and some ko2s (which most people will do anyways) that truck wouldve eaten that up instantly.
I thought the same thing. Mud requires momentum. They set the truck up to fail.
Hes worried about the damage to the skidplate being more than what might be allowable for a test truck. You saw his face when it was crunching those rocks in the back up lol.
What's momentum going to do when your tires are in deep ditches and you're high-centered?
It looked like a what not to do off road video. Going through the mud so slow the tires cant clean out . then backing up hill in deep ruts while turning the wheel sharp? Why???
And being I'm 4high no 4low with the rear locked.
read my mind there bro. it's a "what not to do" video
Worst off road driver ever!
Chuck Mathias exactly
I agree. I've seen total mudding virgins do way better. Also, who the hell comes to a complete standstill and literally parks the truck in the worst/most technical area?
he stopped way to early, it would have made it, TFL, is very very critical of nissan , they are never of chevy , ford or ram, and they suck up to toyota, like saying nissan needs premium fuel for top power ratings, well gm's 6.2 also needs premium fuel for there power ratings, but never say that , and look at their video of razor rocks, with titan and trail boss and titan made it look easy going over them and trail boss struggled, but put down titan, and praised trail boss,
You noticed that too...so obvious the Nissan won that day
I was thinking of that exact video. Both trucks got through the obstacle, but the Nissan cruised through it with ease while the Trail Boss was awkward in places. Both nice trucks, but let's give Nissan credit here. The new Titan is seriously underrated, but I worry its sales won't increase because it has the stigma of being an "also-ran" truck when it is actually really competitive now.
Yes..someone needs to cut down that tree on the rock course.
Well said! I got 18 Titan and do a lot off road. It more then capable.
I just watched that video...I haven't seen the nissians interior in person yet but the GMs is garbage. It certainly does seem like they love hating on the nissian.
The Titan absolutely would have made it through there, momentum is your ally while mudding
Keep in mind these are press vehicles and TFL is trying not to damage them. I agree though the Titan would have made it through but I understand Steve stopped when he did.
I def agree. I take my ‘02 Pathfinder thru way worse stuff
My titan is a pavement princess lol
He should have turned off the traction control too...
@@rogerj412 Yet he full sended it at 8:23 and slammed the front bumper into the ground...
Kinda shifted into Roman style. Gave up to early.
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😂😂😂😂😂 i know right!
P.S. Roman is a bit of a pussy lol
I have seen tfloffroad take a 4 runner through heavy 3inch ice. But bail on this Titan at the deepest point when it wasn't challenged yet. I enjoy the reviews but this seemed biased IMO. That Titan would have finished if you let it.
And he was in 4high not 4low with diff locked. Seemed very bias to me.
This could potentially have to do with what the manufacturer does/does not let them do. Some of them say go ahead and take it on difficult stuff and don’t care about damage, while some may. Not sure if that’s the case here or not, but could be.
You only ever mentioned being in four high, I'm curious if you ever switched to four low and locked that rear differential when you were trying to get out of the shit?
Probably not
The truck can easily handle these things when you actually use all of the features available to you. Funny how that works eh?
So many trucks have been through those ruts that the center is so high won't be long no stock trucks will be able to get through there. Don't blame the Titan, seems like a decent truck. 😎👍🤙🇺🇸
90% driver error.
Agreed. Stop and go. Stop and go. You don’t just stop in the middle of ruts and mud. Momentum is needed. Plus the tires suck. Put an actual AT or better and you’d be fine.
@@RyanBennett_Gpd605 Yep put some BFG A/T tires on it and no problems.
Agreed.
I agree. He could’ve made it to the end also but he puss’d out. Don’t blame the truck
This guy is a terrible driver. No momentum and you could tell he was nervous by how hard he is breathing. Which shows he doesn’t know what to do. Learn to drive off road bro.
Those badges and stitching and various other trim pieces are actually a shade of orange, not red.
Right!
Awesome video! I think it’s a handsome truck! Can’t wait for the new redesign Nissan frontier 2021!
What's better than one TFL video on a Sunday morning? Two videos from TFL on a Sunday morning!! Great video content as usual bro!! Stay safe out there!!
Stephen, you have run the 4Runner TRD Pro through that in ICE and thrashed on it. Proving it can handle the hard stuff. I feel you must've got slapped down for that and are not allowed to bang the newbies up anymore. lol. While I agree press vehicles should be respected, people have come to your hydro Line tests to get the real deal feel. lol. You know that truck would have done it had you not been tethered back.
If I were doing an off-road/overland model, the interior would have neoprene seats; waterproof switches, controls and entertainment system. There'd be easily removed carpet, with rubber pad and/or bedliner coated floorboards with drain plugs. Also, I'd partner with aftermarket suppliers to offer dealer installed suspension lift/upgrades, bull bars, swing bumpers (with spare mounts), upgraded armor, dual battery, on-board air (CTIS?), exterior aux lighting, maybe a smallish built in frig, awning, upgraded tires, etc.
Leave the leather, fancy stitching and fake roll bar for other models.
I think if Nissan had thrown on some of the General Grabber A/TX tires you would have done better in the mud. But they also probably went with something that was going to be a little less aggressive, even though it's their off-road variant, not everyone will be using it as such.
Yeah, there is usually some reviewer that will scream about any tire noise, even if the truck is a master off road.
A lot of people talk about off roading and their trucks never even see terrain rougher that a parking lot. I’ve been through some stuff others would think twice about in a 2wd xterra. The Titan gives you a locking rear which a lot of trucks don’t come with and has LSD which a lot of trucks don’t come with also. The main thing people need to know about taking the beaten path is to drive smart, think about your approach and good AT or mud terrain tires and clearance are more important than anything else when off road.
The Titan would have gone through that, my 2019 Titan gets me through much worse when hunting, but you have to be confident, definitely had your mind made up about the truck before you tried, the wind dam on my 2019 F150 is lower than my Titan and would have been dragging a lot more, and ford put Pirelli Scorpions on it, now they were bad, I do agree with Daniel S. it seems the media is biased toward the Nissan, too bad they are great trucks.
The guy didnt even put it in 4 low because 4 low disables the traction control in the new ones., im also doubting he ever used the lockers. Yhis whole review seems like a set up
I really like the Titan, I know its not class leading but it's a solid work horse with a great warranty
I've always been a Chevy/GM fan but I bought a Titan this year...and I don't regret it one bit. Titan is assembled here in America and most parts for it are manufactured here too (more than any of the Big 3). Comparatively, it is actually MORE American than those 3. I smoked a Silverado just the other day, 2nd day off the lot lol. Also, I can absolutely get that truck, with those tires through that mud...this demonstration was thrown BC we can't hurt the media vic.
The look on Steven’s face and then sweet talking the truck is how every person acts when stuff starts going bad. Love it.
Love the Titan. Best truck I've ever owned.
Parking sensors automatically turn off when in 4-Low.
I didn’t know that. Neither does he. Good to know. Thanks.
easy fix is to go behind the bumper and cut the wires to the sensor. rear sensors are for idiots
There is a button to press to shut it off.
11:45 - 13:45: operator error. Truck's just a tool.
I have a 2019 px4 titan. The driveline is great, but like any stock truck, the main limiting factor is clearance. You could put a 8" lift fit on a AWD tesla and get through these trails no problem. When you are in mud and ruts, clearance is king and way more important then locking diffs as both tires are spinning freely though the open diffs.
The titan pro4x XD is my dream truck. Can't wait to get one in three years lol
He has a skid plate but keeps going about the bumper? SEND IT!!!!
Absolutely! That skid plate is tough, 1/4" think aluminum with even thicker welded, gusseted brackets (I've installed these on Titans before) would have been fine against the mud and grass, that's what it's made for!
For all those saying that Steve gave up too early, you can hear the first full send where he smashed the bumper, which is not a good thing to do especially in a press car. Therefore, to stop when it’s stuck, Steve made the correct decision to not damage the car further.
That truck needs wrangler duratracs. I like the tow hooks and the driver side grab handle on the A pillar...you hear me Toyota?? Nice truck but I just got a 20 TRD OFF ROAD Tundra. I get my truck in September. I went with reliabilty and Quality of Toyota. Stephen, you really do put the trucks thru their paces. You probably could have kept going. I would make my Tacoma do it.
Best move TFL has done is getting you on the team for truck reviews.
Love this truck, will be my next purchase when the F 150 dies
when an f150 dies, you'll be too old to drive
The Ford is much better for the money in my opinion. It also seems like nissan stole a few details from Ford and Ram for this truck. Like the 2 tone tailgate similar to the Ram Rebel and Ford Raptor and the offroad screen on the gauge cluster that displays vehicle and steering angles that come on Fords FX4 packages. Also for 2020 we should be expecting MUCH better fuel mileage. Nissan is so far behind in the truck game, its unbelievable. Resale value for the Titan is also the worst out of all 1/2 ton light duty trucks coming in at 6th behind the Tundra, F150, Silverado, Sierra, and Ram.
Gosh I love this truck, just got mine. Gun Metal and man I'm dying to take it on 4WD lo. Some time soon.
His reactions when he’s backing out of the mud. Priceless! Lol!
Have a 2017 S RWD, took it's first run through the ice in Texas that hit a few weeks back. Absolutely no traction whatsoever, slid perpendicular in the middle of this back road that sloped on both sides into culverts. Backed up to ditch, put it in 1st gear and through 6inches of ice it got traction and made it up a hill. Full believer in operator but I get he didn't want to break anything and pay for it.
The engine and transmission are excellent, the truck is very quick. No cylinder deactivation, no auto stall, no turbos. The infotainment system is very good also. Seats are comfy but they sit too high in the vehicle and the wheel doesn’t tilt down far enough. Camera clarity needs to be improved. I have had mine for about a month.
I really like how this proved this truck is just an appearance package
Its not just an appearance package, a he just proved is that he's a shitty driver
The Titan will make it. You can’t stop in the deep mud you will sink keep forward momentum. I have an 18 pro 4x and have made it through deeper soup. Also it’s all about the experience of the driver and their experience with the truck.
If you go into the menu you can turn off emergency braking and it will keep the parking sensors off. (Must be done every-time you restart the truck) You can also add the Icon Vehicle Dynamic suspension system which gives you a 2” lift and it also rides much better on the road. I just upgraded mine at the dealer and it keeps the 100k warranty. The difference is significant over the standard Billstiens.
A more aggressive tire and a delete on the parking sensors, and you're all set for off-road
Duratrac is always the answer
"and you're all set for off-road" - unless your state required a front license plate.
Nissan does make it pretty easy to turn off the sensors until you want them again. It’s a setting in the center menu.
@@rockrunner387 Even in those states you have options. Most states just say it has to be visible but you're not limited to the factory mounting location. I think it's quite stupid that Nissan would put a lp frame hanging that low on the 'off road' trim though.
@@rogerj412
Its not Nissan or any other manufacturer's fault. Blame the state government for that dumb idea.
Thanks for the video! I just bought one to upgrade from my 2005 Titan! But never planned on doing much mudding. Some light occasional hauling, but that's it.
How is it on payload?
I was going to pick one up, but for overlanding I’m looking more towards the power wagon
Put a 3-6 inch lift on it, some 33-35 inch MT’s and you’re good to go.
That's a great looking truck, but the warrior still looks so much better. Once again, another great honest review.
You could have pushed through it. The SKID PLATE you kept calling the bumper was wider than the middle of the track and is ment to skid along when needed. I'm surprised you didn't gun through it like you usually do with the other brands. Turn off traction control and offroad that thing. It's made for it. Keep up the great work you do! I test drove a SV with all the bells and whistles. It was a beast. I really like the steering being a little heavy (like a truck) and it had an over abundance of power. Comfy and good visibility compared to Chevy. Good interior. I'll probably go with a Pro4X trim as I off road often. Discounts and deals should bring these down at least 10k
I feel like he ruined this review on ourpose because if he had it in 4 low the traction control automatically disables so he never had it in 4 low and i start to doubt the rear locker was ever on either
I'll still buy the pro 4x as tested. Im not too hardcore into off roading so this titan works for me. Plus I feel comfortable in it
buy american
@@dbegley990 This Truck is made in America lol. The Ram is made in mexico mostly.
I really hope this truck sells well this year. It’s a underrated Offroad machine. Next time I’m on the market for a new truck, the titan pro4x is going to be at the top of my list
With nissan struggling, I had my fingers crossed that the titan would be the best truck deals of 2020, but I was wrong, the prices are a bit much for what they are going through. The SL 4x4 here is going for 60k here, I can get a nice equipped ram for almost 20k less.
Nice review, the Titan is a good looking truck and capable.
I like it. More comparable to Chevy Z71 and Ford FX4. A 2 inch lift and some real tires would probably transform this thing. Same can be said for the Z71 and FX4. Do you think 35"s will clear the factory fender wells? They seem pretty tight.
Not sure why everyone reviews this truck with the general grabbers. Those tires are made for dry dirt roads only.
I own a 2011 Titan Pro-4x. Mine has a mini-lift (+2" coilovers up front, +1" blocks in back, Fox 2.0 shocks all around) and more aggressive tires and it makes a massive difference in the off road capability of the truck. I drive a lot of trails pretty similar to this and never got stuck.
This is one of the most capable half tons on the market. First tip, you want 400 horses.....traction control off. Second the truck has a badass locker in the rear. I own an 18 and its a beast in sticky situations. I have a 2 inch leveling kit and Mts and no locker.
Although NO WHERE near as capable, I so miss my Nissan mini trucks / commuter trucks from the 80's and early 90's.
Nissan just needs to release and put into production the Titan Warrior Concept, then it can really be competitive with the off road package.
My 2019 Pro4x would've done that trail with ease.
i love to watch this guy! he really push to limit
I think you would have needed more clearance than just about every truck in the market to make it over that rock while in the ruts. I do think those tires are only okay.. Put some Falken Wildpeaks on it and that would be a much better rig for the hydroline.
Falken Wildpeak AT3 have saved my ass on numerous occasions and I only have a 2wd Titan. Lol!
You can buy a 2in lift for a couple hundred bucks.
Sounds to me all then titan needs in order to take on the mud is: 2"lift, and better tires.
I love the truck raised it up about 3 inches. Put some Coopers on it the truck performs awesome when you have somebody. That knows how to drive it..
Very nice truck, and i like the front look... Titan Pro4x needs batte off-road tires(Nitto), and 3' lift...
I was going to buy a titan exacty like this one with options. But got a different full size truck instead. But its a big difference over previous models.
As others have said, the only thing that was holding it back was the tires. If you were going to be doing hydroline regularly it might make sense to open the Nissan accessories catalog and get those Icon dampers that give you a 3 inch lift. But it is probably not needed for the sort of off roading most people do.
If the belly drags , it's just about over for any truck !
Yup
I'm so glad my ZR2 has no parking or reverse sensors, that would be so annoying on the trail. That Nissan would do great with a lift and some aggressive tires.
All that stuff can be turned off in the settings, he just didnt do it and allowed himself to be annoyed lol
Maybe a quality leveling kit to improve that approach angle and of course a good set of tires could help... Still fairly impressed with the truck!
You quit too early in that one hole!
He’s worried about a front bumper but backs over a tree! Lol!!!!
Ya know, this video makes me feel like this was an off road truck designed by an excel spreadsheet. They just went down the list of what others had done, and gave it many of the parts that others had. While having no off road understanding or experience. The parking sensor behavior is the perfect example.
Tires would definitely help, but I am sure the stock tire choice was made with fuel economy in mind. I know that won't make sense to some people because this is an "offroad" version of the truck, but more aggressive tires and removing the air dam would impact the mileage. Manufacturers have a lot to balance when making these choices.
The Trail Boss is no match for the Titan, it's open diff on the front, and yes, auto rear locker but once the rear lost all the traction the the front diff will also if it doesn't have enough traction. The Titan has rear locker and front ABLS which has the advantage over the Trail Boss except it's not lifted.
I have one pro 4x....best truck I never owned period......talk and laugh all you want but if you want the best American made truck.... it the Titan ...it more American made than the other big 3....love it... made in the USA 🇺🇸
great video Stephen ,this Titan Pro -4X for 2020 has allot of strengths over previous years and competitors, the powertrain especially, 60:1 crawl ratio is the best over any other full size truck by far, the only thing stopping it and you from going further up the trail was the tires and you said it at 2:53 all terrain tires is the Achilles heel of this truck when it comes to your hydro trail , which in my opinion is one of the best used on youtube reviews and the 2nd one was you do not own the truck and are being responsible for it, I know i did almost 9 yrs in the industry myself , the rest of this truck is kicks ass over the competition, in almost every way and have heard the sound system its sick and rocks out play some of your dads old favourite tunes and he'll tell you Hell yeah brother, Nissan could have gone a step farther and did like Chevy Trail Boss and used lift blocks on the body and gain instant 2" of lift and tires and it will have the same ability off road with the same tires , I'd say buy it and go aftermarket lift that is a quality package that keeps your front end geometry correct and off road tires going up to 35's of your choice and you'd be set for the next 10/12 years, the only truck to outlast it would be a Tundra TRD Pro great video once again Stephen, your thoroughness is your strength 👍
I own a 2019 and I wish they would have put a digital speedo in the center. It is the only thing I miss over my Chevy. Great Video
I’ve got a 2018 and wish the same thing. I keep the steering wheel so low that it’s tough to read the gauge sometimes.
@@peachpole ........I like the truck power and everything. Pulls all my trailers and radio is awesome. Glad you like yours. Be Safe
I don't think you gave the Titan a fair chance you basically went into the rut and said oop we are done. Mudding is all about pushing farther and you didn't push at all
That lisence plate placement for an offroad version is hilarious! How much approach angle does it remove?😂
What do you guys think the new one with gas vs the last year model with Cummins?
Great video! Would love to see more vids of the 2020 Titan going offroad from you guys!
Your Dad knew those tires and soft suspension wouldn't pass the test. I heard it in his voice when he said "I don't know."
Nothing a leveling kit can't fix man . truck was doing great .
Interesting video to be sure,..but I really wonder, how many actual Nissan Titan owners would bother to take their trucks into the back country like this?
It's a valid question, is it not?
If I owned a Titan, and I did want to drive on trails like this, the very first things I would buy and have installed would be tires ( and perhaps wheels ) that are made for these conditions.
I'd bet that it's a great on-road driving and handling truck.
Now I wonder when is the new bodied Nissan Frontier coming out,..there, should be a nimble truck for a on and off road driving,.... I hope!
I own a 2018 Pro 4x and I take my truck on various trails throughout Arizona. I ditched the stock tires around 5k miles for Falken Wildpeaks AT3s and I'm still riding on stock suspension. It's a simple truck, nothing fancy or gimmicky, and it has more than enough power for what most people use it for. Let's be honest, the full size truck market is now geared towards a wider range of people who don't really need a full size truck.
@@s13one80 I also run Falken Wildpeak AT3. They are great tires and have saved my ass numerous times.
Let's all be clear here. There's a fine line between driver ability and vehicle ability. You never just slam on the brakes when entering a deep rut. That's just asking for problems in any stock off roading truck
I love the design and that color! Those Nissan V8's just sound so good. All new trucks just seem so overpriced though. Thats why I have a 2011 Titan still going 💪!
I agree. My 2013 is still running great.
1 or 2 more inches of clearance and some better A/T or mud tires you would most likely have a better off roader. Thanks for sharing TFL and Stephen for the review and video.
Everyone knows you don’t “Creep” thru mud. Momentum and hi revs are the trick.
Exactly, you have to sling your tires clean to get traction.
But the bumper was still hitting everything
FhargaZ he has a skid plate. That’s what he was hearing.
I agree, kind of a better truck, but it wouldn't catch my eye as an off road truck. Awesome review, hopefully Nissan watches your channel.
not being able to actually turn off teh sensors annoys the hell outta me, specially the reverse on as I use mine to to a trailer and when i am trying to hurry up and back in a driveway off a busy road and it senses the trailer as I am back it up it locks up the breaks then I have to stop and turn it off and have almost been hit over that.
that won't ever be fixed though as they discontinued the Titan
I have the Grabber X3's on my Power Wagon and they love that slop!
Power wagon dont care!
Better tires and a higher lift, she would have went through just fine. I got the 2019 and the 4x4 on her is amazing.
Have a 19 pro x. And the general grabbers suck. They turned like hockey pucks when the temperature drops sure They lasted for 2 yrs but horrible in mud and snow just upgraded to Firestone. AT2 will find out if there any better when the snow falls. But come on guy that truck would of went through that little bit of mud.
I'm with you on the sport bars, don't like them on any truck. Also any off road model should not have step bars, if they were somehow integrated into sliders that would be OK. I do like the new Titan though. Thanks for the vid!
The XD sits 2” taller, not sure why they didn’t do the same with the normal Titan. I’ve got the 21 xd pro4x and no issue. The skid plate is also the best in the biz.
I like the improvements for sure. Definitely needs a lift and that front skid plate moves far too much which makes me think its just for looks, not a solid bash plate. Speed would have helped but when it's not your truck you have to make that call. Keep up the good work love the content.
You totally damaged the skid plate. It was crooked there at the end of the video. Lol 😂
Nothing a good old hammer cant fix!
Tires tires tires. Nice truck. I’d lose the bars in the back. It would have made it but you can’t be damaging the press vehicle so it was wise to stop. I’m waiting for the new Frontier. If they make it slightly larger I’ll be happy.
Would 4-lo and /or diff lock help the driver? This truck has those.
You chose to take street tires into 9+” m in deep mud. You got what you asked for. Almost stuck. And then the Titan DID manage a 3-pt despite the way you tried to get it out of the track. Yes, street tires aren’t Moab or foot deep material. How did the Titan do for 5800 lbs and street tires? Damn fine!!
Was he trying to crawl through mud? And with the locker off? Turn the parking sensors off in the settings, its an option. Bad media for the Titan. 🤦♂️
Correct.
He seems like another Titan hater.
My Titan is absolutely one of the best trucks on the market.
I currently have a 2021 Titan Pro4x and can say that they are pretty decent offroad. But... the 9 speed trans absolutely sucks and has a ton of issues. Also if you find yourself in deep mud or sand the trans will bog down and wont give you any kind of real poer to get out of the situation. The stock Bilstien struts are absolute garage and give the worst ride ever on highway and will need to be replaced with upgraded Icon or Bilstien struts. There are a bunch of Titan fb pages you can join to see for yourself all the issues. About the only thing i love about this truck is the Fender sound system.
Oh and fan clutch will have to be replaced close to yearly, otherwise it sounds like an airplane on every acceleration and loses power.
The custom trail boss would of handled that with no problem. It also sales between 38,000,-43,000 dollars.
The trail boss did terrible off road, it’s essentially a Z-71 with a tough appearance package, which DOES NOT make it a good wheeler.....just sayin’
American AF! Terrible? Idk what you have been looking at. It has the better angles and TFL has taken it through the hydro line already and it actually could go through the course.
I have taken mine on the trails here in SC, NC, and TN and it has taken everything so far.