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- 12 different Catherine of Aragon depictions on screen in historical movies and tv shows. Some critically acclaimed, some forgetable.
Who is the best?
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While Charlotte Hope is an accurate portrayal of Catherine’s appearance, Maria Doyle Kennedy is the best.
Definitely and she is one of my favorites. Now Anne Boleyn is my favorite queen but Maria Doyle Kennedy made you feel for Catherine.
@@KaliBryant I completely agree! MDK gave me a new respect for CoA.
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I agree . Maria Doyle Kennedy is my pick
It’s funny that Katherine is almost always portrayed as being dark haired, dark eyed, and olive toned when that was how Anne was famously described. It’s as if people think Spanish = Hispanic, when Hispanics from the Americas tend to look quite different than Spaniards from Europe. Katherine was known for her auburn hair, fair skin, and blue eyes, and unlike Anne, was deemed quite a beauty in her youth. Anne was alluring and had beautiful dark eyes, but was not a great beauty by any means.
It's because most people have the image of the gypsy cantaor/a and bailaor/a with the sevilla regional clothes when they think of spain. But those are literally the gypsy people who settled in spain, they have a romani ethnicity and their own particular culture. Spanish people ( as in the ones who descend from the ones who have been longer in the peninsula ) are for the most part of celtic genes.
True and I agree
@@angiec2051 And Spanish is? I’m Hispanic on my mother’s side, with some of her ancestors hailing from Spain and others native to the Andes. Latin Americans are a mesh of several races, as well as native Americans and Europeans, whereas Katherine in the 1500s had white, European ancestry. Spanish people are from Spain, Hispanic or Latin American refers to those from or who have ancestors in Latin America.
@@angiec2051 Yes, but my point still stands that Katherine would have looked “white” as a European with her fair skin, auburn hair, and blue eyes, but in our modern day, when we hear Spanish, people think of Latin America, and darker hair, skin, and eyes, hence why her portrayals haven’t been the most historically accurate.
There was no need to be a dick, dude, I’m half “Hispanic”, with both Spanish and native Andean ancestry, I’m not trying to offend anyone or be incorrect.
@@angiec2051 If self righteous is the case, then pot, meet kettle. Again, you completely missed the point of my original post, instead wanting to harp on me for a misuse of “Hispanic” which is a term we are both correct on: it’s typically a term used for those who are Spanish speaking AND from Latin America, but I will concede to not being as specific as I should have. You chose to add eye rolling and shrugging emojis to make your point come across as petty and immature. If my pointing out that several casting directors chose to intentionally portray Katherine of Aragon as looking more Latin American than European, how does that make me self righteous when the casting directors themselves would be the ones assuming people’s ignorance? You are self righteous in your post for saying people like me are wrong, while you are right. I think we both have the same idea, you chose to insult me in your reply.
I’m tired of this thread, Angie, have the final word if you’d like. Enjoy the video ✌🏼
The Spanish Princess had the most accurate physical portrayal of Catherine of Aragon. All these portrayals of her being a dark-haired, dark-eyed and olive-skinned woman is a streotype.
Agree 1000%
No, Annette Crosbie and Frances Cucka came very close to accuracy re Katherine’s appearance.
And that's the only accurate thing about it... Hehe
Pero en carácter, no. La canadiense se acerca más.
I loved how dignified and powerful Maria Doyle Kennedy's Catherine was, nothing will top her performance for me. (I do appreciate how more recent portrayals of her try to honor her younger years as well, but I feel we haven't had a depiction that gives her full story justice yet.)
Maria Doyle.Kennedy did an absolutely beautiful job. The scene where she walks with regal dignity across the tribunal floor, only to kneel at her husband's feet, place her head against his hand, and offer obedience in the most faithful humility.
She was the daughter of the two most powerful monarchs in Europe at the time, Henry was the younger son of a bastard king with a tenuous claim to the throne he held. She was an amazingly strong person.
I used to wonder what the western world would look like if Henry had not put aside Catherine, and executed Thomas More. The whole United States would be different.
But there's no point in speculation. Perhaps my amazing husband who's family is from Chihuahua world never had existed, which would mean neither would our children. Most likely not me either, as Mary would have inherited the throne and then Mary Queen of Scots,.and there would have been no suppression of the Irish Catholic church, no famine, and no great Irish diaspora. Like I said, the western world would look entirely different.
I love Maria Doyle Kennedy's Catherine. I can overlook her appearance being incorrect because she's just so good.
In "The Spanish Princess", Henry is depicted as a young man in his late teens, but he was actually a little boy of 10 when he first met Katherine.
The moment I saw how Prince Henry was portrayed in "The Spanish Princess," I knew it was going to be a ridiculous series. I was right.
The series Isabel got it right however, they made Henry VII too old.
Maria Doyle Kennedy will always and forever be my favorite Catherine of Aragon. She portrayed her so beautifully that I couldn't tear my eyes off the screen. She deserved all those rewards she got. After that Natalia Rodriquez.
Y.es I agree except that Catherine in reality had beautiful auburn hair. She is so often portrayed as a brunette. Mary was also a redhead.Catherine was a wonderful,strong,determined woman love always admired her.Henry a self centred man he didn't deserve her.
@@lynneturner553 Same here about the hair.
Maria Doyle Kennedy has been my favorite of the many portrayals of Catherine. I was surprised to find that Catherine of Aragon has a huge contemporary following in the UK and around the world.
There is actually a festival celebrated in England in Queen Catherine’s honour to this day
My favorites: Marie Doyle Kennedy, Irene Papas, Natalia Rodríguez and Melida Molina.
In my opinion, they all did their job well and honored the Queen they portrayed
I prefer Maria Doyle Kennedy. While physically she does not fit the description of Catherine of Aragon that history has left us as well as some of the other actresses who played her, I like how her she spoke her lines with a Spanish accent. Some of the earlier actresses spoke with English accents, which makes no sense to me. My mother is Korean and while she speaks perfect English there is an accent or a cadence to her voice that you can pick up that tells you that she grew up speaking a language that was not English. While my mother was certainly older then the age that Catherine of Aragon was when she moved to an English-speaking country, I think the same thing would have happened to Catherine and her English would have been tinted with the cadence of her native Spanish as Maria Doyle Kennedy's portrayal gives us. Also I think Kennedy's portrayal gives us a nice balance of the Spanish temper of Catherine, but also how it was leashed by her devotion to her faith.
I love Charlotte playing Catherine, but Maria Doyle will always be my Catherine of Aragon
The story of Queen Catherine is very touching and sad. Maria Doyle Kennedy as the Queen was perfect.❤
Since I only have seen a few of these depictions, I will admit that Maria Doyle Kennedy is my favourite. Even from these snippets of each portrayal, I think MDK is the best.
Thanks for creating this video and sharing it. Definitely makes me want to check out the films I have not seen, yet
She might not look like Katherine but she can nail the emotional part so well
Maria Doyle Kennedy was flawless, perfection as Catherine!
Queen Catherine of Aragon is my historic icon and I am a devoted follower of her and her daughter Queen Mary
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My favorites are: Annette Crosbie, Maria Doyle Kennedy, and Natalia Rodriguez
My guilty pleasures are: Charlottle Hope and Ana Torrent
My "good but not my faves/second-tier" are: Irene Papas, Rosalie Crutchley, and Joanne Whalley
My least faves are: Frances Cuka, Melida Molina, and Assumpta Serna
Note: I don't hate any of these portrayals even the one I like the least (Serna) I still think is ok.
Irene Papas comes to my mind when I think of Katherine of Aragon. I know she's not accurate portrait of Katherine as far as appierence concerned but she's so charismathic.....
I like all the actresses,but Maria Doyle Kennedy stole my heart in this portrayal💞🌟
Maria Doyle Kennedy. Enough said.
My favorite is Catherine in "Isabel" but I think the first actress you show in this video was also a very good one (1953)
The funny thing is that the first actress, Rosalie Crutchley, also played Catherine Parr in the TV show included in the third spot here, The Six Wives of Henry VIII.
Catherine is always portrayed as a dark haired, brown eyed Spaniard when contemporary portraiture showed her as a strawberry-blonde - ginger with blue eyes…stereotypes are hard to break I suppose
Maria Doyle Kennedy
Frances Cuka. She reminds me of Michael Sittow's portrait c.1502 of, possibly, the young Catherine. Shame that Frances Cuka didn't have more screen time, as she was a great Catherine.
I haven’t seen all of the depictions of Catherine but the ones I’ve seen are I think pretty consistent with her mix of stubbornness and bold temperament but also her devotion to Henry and her intent to be queen and stay queen as well as her faith. The Spanish princess portrays that period of widowhood that’s rarely seen portrayed and her true belief that she was meant to be queen of England.
the actress in the series Isabel is the one that looks like the portraits the most. the best characterization was MDK
No matter her hair color, these portrayals of Catherine are strong and admirable
Maria Doyle Kennedy will forever be my Catherine of Aragon ❤️ Queen of Hearts 💕
For a Spaniard I would vote for Natalia Rodriguez and Melinda Molina, for performance MDK and for appearance Charlotte Hope.
MDK was fabulous
I think Anette Crosbie is the most realistic looking of all the Katherines based on first hand accounts. In the White Princess, she is flame haired which is not quite right.
In the Tudors the look is completely wrong but Marie Doyle Kennedy delivered a beautiful performance.
Maria Doyle Kennedy. ❤ I remember watching The Tudors and was smitten by Catherine of Aragon because of her portrayal. Charlotte Hope was a gem, too, especially because she had the look down. Love, love, love Catherine of Aragon.
Natalia Rodríguez... En cualquier caso es un bonito homenaje a Catalina, hija que más se parecía a su madre, Isabel I de Castilla, la gran Reina, única... Saludos desde Madrid. Y gracias por recordar a nuestra Catalina ,una gran mujer.
Annette Crosbie hands down. Magnificent.
Marie Doyle Kennedy....with fairer makeup and blonde wig she would have been perfection.
Ana Torrent en sus pocos momentos en la película de la Otra Bolena se hizo notar y brillar como pocas lo lograron
All the British depictions of her are terrible. No surprise there. The Spaniards have the best depictions of Catherine.
Of course. The British portrayed her incorrectly because of prejudice!
annette crosbie , at least she looked like the real katherine of aragon.
maria Doyle in the Tudors is the best
Maria Doyle Kennedy..the best..I think so
and Irene Papas.
Maria Doyle Kennedy is Catherine of Aragon for me! Amazing acting.
She handles the soft and sweet side of Catherine and her fiery side very well
No doubt about it. Maria Doyle Kennedy
Crosbie and Serna are the Best By faaar
I think that Charlotte Hopes Portrayal is the best and I am saying that because when I look at Maria Doyle Kennedy all I see is Mrs Bates from Downtown abbey
When I look at Charlotte Hope, all I see is Myranda, Ramsey Bolton's girlfriend, from Game of Thrones 😀
In Mrs Bates I always saw Catherine of Aragon because I saw The Tudors earlier than Downton Abbey and also Catherine's role was much more significant than the minor role Mrs Bates played in DA
i really like the actress who plays her in isabel i want to watch the show now because her acting is good and the characterization seems on point not to mention her appearance is closer to the real catherine than the other portrayals. catherine from the spanish princess might be the closest appearance wise but the writing did catherine so dirty. it was disgusting and disrespectful to her legacy. the best out of all is maria doyle kennedy in the tudors. i couldn’t take my eyes off her she was so regal
Irene papas for me from Anne of a thousand days
my fav is probably Charlotte hope and Maria Doyle Kennedy as their apperence's were quite similar to catherine's also i love their actin skillls
Wrong. Katherine was red headed and blue eyed
Go Irene Papas -. Queen Catherine as Medea!
I wonder whether the costume designer got her inspiration for the Star Wars prequels. 🤔☺️
По всем источникам историческим Екатерина, никогда не показывала эмоции на людях как это в первом эпизоде показано она была религиозна, сдержала... Актриса молодец, а сценарий в этом моменте так себе... Она вызывала восхищение именно своим благородством , ну... Такое мнение у меня сложилось после просмотра документальных фильмов об этой эпохе
Nuestra Catalina de Aragón qué buena reina de España hubiese sido.
Sorry, Kennedy fans, but nothing gets past the hair colour of Catherine for me. The royal families of Europe were all at least distantly related and bore resemblance to each other. Black or very dark brown hair is not historically compatible, and that is, for me, the basis on which a portrayal rests. Then the comparison can begin. But that's just my taste.
Sorry but a portrayal doesn't only have to be about the hair color. Who tf cares about the looks when the acting isn't even great?
Annette Crosbie had the right coloring, but she was way too old to play a 16 year old girl, which was how old Catherine was when she arrived in England.
is the monologue in all those trial scenes from her actual testimony?
Yes
@@Lily1127channel wow that's so awesome! it's incredible to think we have direct quotes from people who lived so long ago
Yes, every detail of both her and Thomas More's tribunals and trials and interrogations were extremely well documented as they concerned not just England, but Spain, Rome and the rest of Europe.
15:25 kid Henry VIII is so adorable
2:35😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It sounded so fake I couldn’t keep a straight face 💀
Damn couldn’t someone sneak a red haired boy in?
Frances Cuka's Catherine is Red Headed.
Charlotte Hope
Omg Yeah make the historically wrong dark skinned tone mean Spanish Queen the bad person in The Sword & The Rose. That wouldnt/shouldn't happen today lol
I liked Maria the best, she’s a excellent actress, but “The Tudors”🤦♀️. Appearance, D.
Irene Papas for me
nice spanish accent tho
And, same as the Anne Boleyn video, everyone is just going to say that Irish bint from Father Ted because nobody has seen anything else with Catherine of Aragon apart from The Tudors, even though it was SHIIIIIIIITE 🤣 People are so predictable. Assumpta Serna was amazing. And actually Spanish.
How do you know no one has seen any other depictions? Fans of this part of history notoriously watch and read every single depiction, shitty or not.
Well the prediction is wrong, I guess, many people say Crosbie or someone else in the comments 🤣 So yes, people did see many others productions, not just The Tudors 😀 After all, people are not so predictable, it seems.
Assumpta Serna was good but that miniseries Henry VIII was mediocre at best. Much more "shiiiite" than The Tudors, actually. Also very inaccurate historically.
"The Sword and the Rose" just stinks.
Yes, I cannot sit through the whole film, as I just want to slap Mary (Henry's sister). Talk about a royal brat! At least Glynis Johns, who plays Mary, had a better role a Winifred Banks in Mary Poppins.
Ana torrent
Why do they always pick such old actresses to play her she was only 46 when Henry “divorced” her
Good question. I looked up how old each actress was for the role.
Crutchley was 33 when she had to play a 30-year-old Catherine, I think that's a fair casting.
Papas was 43. She played a Catherine from age 42 to her death. I think that's also ok.
Crosbie was 36(!) when she played her from age 16 till her death. 36 was far too old to play a convincing teenager, but her age was good for the older parts.
Cuka was also 36 when playing her, starting from age 26 till her death. So they cast someone in the "middle" between 26 and 50.
Vasquet was 43, and Catherine should be around 35-40 in the few scenes she appears in. Could have been a bit younger actress, but not a terrible casting.
Ana Torrent was 42 when she played a Catherine between age 35 and death, again seens ok.
Serna was 46 when she played her between age 35 and her death.
Doyle Kennedy was 43-44 when she played a Catherine of age 33-50.
Joanne Whalley was the oldest, 53, and indeed she was too old to play Catherine between age 43 and 50.
@@Lily1127channel To be fair, I've read that the strain of Numerous Pregnancies prematurely aged Catherine, to the point that she looked decades older than she actually was at the time of her death.
@@eamonndeane587 Yeah, and anyway people nowadays (especially actresses!) age much more slowly than people so many centuries ago. Modern medicine, good nurishment, beauty industry and whatnot.
Maria Doyle Kennedy will always be Catherine to me
Yeah I also love her performance ❤ She was perfect in every scene.
Nope Annette Crosbie #1.
Each to their own, I guess. For me, Crosbie is so cringe sometimes... That cry when Henry tells her about his will to divorce... Absolutely cringey and not good acting. But I know the 1970 acting standards were different, but still. On the other hand, Maria Doyle Kennedy's reaction to the same is just perfection
Yes Crosbie's looks were very close to reality, but so were Charlotte Hope's, and that fact alone won't make you a good Catherine, acting skills will.
@@Lily1127channel I agree. That was a little overdramatic. Maria Doyle Kennedy was awesome.
I concur! 😊
Maria Doyle Kennedy's portrayal for me has been the most moving, gut wrenching, tear inspiring piece of acting I have ever seen. Absolutely mind blowing. She was magnificent in the role.
Without a doubt one of the Best performances in The Tudors.
Katherine of Aragon had blue eyes and strawberry blonde hair.
Correct. A Spanish princess but a descendant of Edward III... with the Plantagenet strawberry blonde trait.
The dusky image is incorrect.
Catherine was such an intelligent and brave woman. She fought against enormous odds--against a ruthless, powerful megalomaniac [and dare I say psychopath] without flinching, ever. My favorte actress is Annette Crosbie. From the portraits I've seen of Catherine, I believe she resembles the Spanish princess the most.
She's the best Queen, and Annette crosbie is one of my favorites too
She did an incredible job portraying Queen Victoria in the BBC series about Edward VII. All 13 episodes are available here on TH-cam.
Precisely. She was most accurate both from Holbein's paintings and her temperament as described by those who knew her in letters.
I'm glad to see a few red-headed Catherines. People seem to forget that she had English blood and was auburn haired!
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People, like you, seem to forget that Spaniards are withe and her being white had nothing to do with her “””””English blood””””””
The Plantagenets were French
That is actually not entirely true. I know, there is period description which says red-gold, but it actually ment reddish gold. Strawberry blond. Originals by Sittow prove it. Her hair was like liquid gold, not auburn.
@@Risperanto so what if the Spaniards are white? Aren't the English are white as well?
@@hlwhhlwh2351That French DNA became very watered down over the decades.
Annette Crosbie probably was the best physical portrayal, but Maria Doyle Kennedy was the best actor.
Exactly
Annette Crosbie looks like Catherine, as does Frances Colka. Their accents strike me as a bit exaggerated, given how much of her life Catherine spent in England (though I have no idea, really, what Catherine would have sounded like -- I have never read that she had a pronounced accent, only that she was multilingual). Maria Doyle Kennedy did not look like Catherine, but she played the haughtiness and ultimate despair beautifully (and the steel in her eyes worked well). I also think something in her accent clicked for me, because it did not sound like too much. Natalia in the Isabel series is absolutely amazing. Seeing Catherine's strength during the difficult years of her youth -- a side rarely portrayed. Charlotte Hope looks and sounds like Catherine, but it's just hard to like The Spanish Princess. Sigh.
I love seeing a young fashionable strong catherine compared to the dowdy grumpy version often portrayed in Anne Centric stories xx
Annette Crosbie is the best in terms accuracy of Catherine's story as a whole. Irene Papas while doesn't look the part delivers a wonderfully sympathetic performance. Frances Cuka is also a fantastic with limited screentime and resembles the portraits the closest.
Catherine was mostly portrayed against Anne (who was also player of the game and a tragic loser) as an old, boring hag. When Henry married her, Spain was at the pinnacle of its power and (though Spanish Princess took some liberties), Catherine was a more modern, cultured and assertive, dare I say feminist then all Henry's wives. But then again, the rest saw what can happen with that man....
In terms of feminism, Catalina, Anne, and Catherine Parr would have great allies as they all believed in feminism especially regarding towards women having a right to education, it is tragic, however, that they couldn't have been allies due to Henry.
Catalina de Aragón was actually fair, auburn haired and blue eyed, like her mother, Queen Isabel of Castille. The Habsgurg kings that came afterwards in Spain were also blond or red headed, since they were of Austrian stock.
Annette Crosbie, for sure. I also spotted Glynis Johns in the first clips.
I love Maria Doyle Kennedy and Charlotte Hope
María Doyle Kennedy♥️😂🌷🌺
I love the human being that Catalina de Aragon was. She and her daughter Mary suffered a lot.
RIP Katherine Queen of England 💖😘♥️🌷🌺
Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷
One of my favorite scenes of MDK as Catherine in The Tudors was when she welconed the Spanish envoy. Oh my god, the moment she was announced, I was like "Should I bow?" 🤣 She just stood there but commanded respect. ❤
Maria Doyle Kennedy and Annette crosby were the best.
I love Marie Doyle Kennedy and Charlotte Hopes portrayal of Catherine
in terms of aspect the Spanish Princess is very acurate, in terms os personality Maria Doyle Kennedy, the firsts Catherines are absolute histerycals, and the other seems Henry´s mother more than his wife or an arabic woman
I also love Maria Doyle Kennedy's portrayal of Catherine. I found her madeup Spanish accent a bit weird at first but then I got used to it. And her acting is so great and a good tribute to the real Catherine. I don't even care that her appearance was not 100% like Catherine (although it would have been quite easy to just dye her hair to a lighter color, I don't know why they didn't...). The comparison between her and Charlotte Hope is the perfect example that just because you look very much like a certain historical figure, it doesn't mean you are the best casting choice to play him/her.
Honestly, I don't understand why there is still hype in history fan circles about the 1970 and 1972 Catherines. I also don't see why Crosbie won a BAFTA (although I know the the quality level of tv shows wasn't so high back then, so maybe the performance was good in 1970). But still today, on every historical forum about Catherine of Aragon, I always see that everyone praises the 1970 and 1972 Catherines and says Crosbie was THE benchmark Catherine of Aragon and soo great. I don't understand. I saw the series and I find her acting okay sometimes, but other times it's just so cringe.... Especially the hysterics.
@@Lily1127channel well, I agree with you on most things but I believe the reason why Crosbie won the BAFTA and people still praise her for her portrayal is that in 1970s most period dramas were rather theatrical and henceforth, her portrayal was marvellous.
It's the same with Elizabeth of York in The Shadow of the Tower which, if I'm not mistaken, came out in 1970 (or 1972). Very theatrical and hard to swallow but superior to those which came afterwards.
@@bellaoliveira4724 Yeah, you may be right. I can believe that in 1970 Crosbie was simply the best choice in BAFTA. However, her performance still seems very very theatrical to me. There are certain movies and productions and performances that age well throughout the years and decades, and there are those that don't age well. For me, Crosbie's performance as Catherine and the series in a whole did not age that well. I think another BBC historical series of the 1970s, "I, Claudius" aged very well on the other hand, and it still seems a very good series with very good acting, even today.
I just don't know why the 1970 Crosbie portrayal became the benchmark of Catherine of Aragon, when this performance did not age well imo, and both before and after her there were better and less cringey and less theatrical Catherines. I found 1969's Irene Papas much better, also of the modern depictions Maria Doyle Kennedy stands out by miles. But this is just my opinion, I know it is the unpopular opinion in this case because everyone seems to love Crosbie's Catherine.
@@bellaoliveira4724 I agree about the theatrics. I remember Angela Pleasance as Kathryn Howard screaming at the top of her lungs after her wedding night with Henry.
Personally I think Charlotte Hope from the Spanish Princess & Maria Doyle Kennedy from the Tudors were the best ones even if not the most accurate. That being said, we still don't have a perfect depiction of Catherine with the right appearance of strawberry blond hair and blue eyes AND the historical accuracy to go with it.
Agree with all of this. Katherine of Aragon need way more films and tv series about her and Mary I needs to be explored more. The last think I need is another Anne Boleyn show/movie, I like Anne, but she has been done to death, so has Elizabeth I. Charlotte Hope and Maria Doyle Kennedy are my faves so far.
@@bethanne1221A movie about Edward or Mary would be great, at least with becoming Elizabeth we could see more of Edward reign
@@vecturhoff7502 agreed!!! 💯
Maria Doyle Kennedy is who always comes to mind when I picture Catherine of Aragon, but Natalia Rodriguez and Melinda Molina are amazing as well.
Charlotte Hope was good, but the accent kind of bothered me.
I think it's more than the accent. The writing of the character wasnt good at all (they made her very different from the real Catherine). I think Charlotte could have been a great Catherine if they'd given her a proper script.
@@student05-bdes52 indeed. Charlotte was the most accurate physically, but they portrayed her as power hungry and emotionless. Everything she did in the Spanish princess was out of ambition.
I have seen almost all of these in their entirety, as Catherine of Aragon is one of my most favorite historical figures. Annette Crosbie's Catherine of Aragon will always be my favorite depiction of this great woman. She has the right physical traits (height and stature, hair color and skin tone), but also what I feel is the proper presence, including her unwavering resolve, regal bearing, and a royal control over her emotions (with her only breakdown of course being when Henry first mentions an annulment). I also really enjoy Irene Papas (who always pulls a great performance), Maria Doyle Kennedy (who is an force of nature in acting), and Natalia Rodriguez (who fits very well in the context of the series about Isabel).
Nothing beats Maria Kennedy of the tudors. First series I saw of that time period and obsessed since. Also, this bugged me for so long. whats that gable hood Catherine wears in wolfhall. They had such good costumes for minor characters and Catherine wears a flabby thin thing on her head that wiggles with every movement. Anne also wore ill fitted clothing while ,minor back character's dresses were fitted fine. Carlos rey emperador actress was also very good. But I love every minute of Carlos
Yeah, Wolf Hall costumes were extremely praised by dress historians for the historical accuracy, but I also noticed that, accurate as they are, some costumes are just ill-fitting and flabby.
It's undeserved praise in my opinion. The hairbands in wolfhall which were supposed to be french hoods were, interesting. I will just leave it at that. Wolfhall still had me hooked, something in the performances kept me watching, in that regard it was good. Yet, Always amazes me how English productions dont take costuming from freelance historic costumers online. Prior attire for example, she is on youtube has amazing accurate dresses and she's one of many. I always think when I would direct a tudors set, I'd just ask one such talented lady.
@@Dryadkal Hm, I think this historical accuracy thing is relative in this case. Sure Wolf Hall costume design has its own differences from how the real Tudor gown looked like, but I think the reason why dress historians liked it so much was that it was still miles closer to reality than The Tudors costumes or The Spanish Princess or other modern Tudor drama costumes. So I guess they just appreciate that they haven't seen Tudor costumes in movie/tvshow so close to reality for a long long time (or ever?). I guess Carlos is not very known worldwide 😞
@@Lily1127channel no I think so as well. I wanted to mention that Carlos also got me hooked for their costumes, they are among the most accurate I have ever seen but then I am gushing about Carlos again. But now The tudors launched again on my TV and I scanned the back characters and their dresses have elements of good historic costumes. Mixed in with awful ones :) It's really weird to spot a well done gable hood on a background figure and gowns with bare arms on the next lady.. I guess they recycled every medieval ish gown they could find.
Richard Burton best Henry. I can't stop looking at him. Mary Doyle Kennedy is my vote for Catherine.
Richard Burton had a giant head!
He’s the worst Henry in my opinion after the one in ‘The Tudors. Bloody awful.
Annette Crosbie will FOREVER be THE Katharine of Aragon to me.
Unpopular opinion: I didn't like Spanish princess portrayal and I thought it was inaccurate in both personality and appearance-wise. There is just one description which says Catherine had red-gold hair, but look at Sittow's potraits(at originals) and you'll realise her hair was strawberry blond(hence reddish golden). Darker shade of golden strawberry blond, like liquid gold! Not dark auburn. Two colours are not even remotely close and it is as inaccurate as having Catherine with raven hair.
Catherine was nice, polite, good-hearted person who loved her daughter from moment she was born. She was no backstabing b. Also, she was not at Flodden and wouldn't ever risk her baby so recklessly and didn't become suddenly pious after being exact oposite of good christian for 2 seasons.
She also never wore italian fashion. People just got wrong idea, because of supposed italian hat she wore. But if you look at certain italian headwear it is almost identical to spanish headwear called cofia and somebody could easily mistaken the two. Maria Doyle Kennedy and Natalia Rodrigez far better embodied spirit of Catherine. The spirit, dignity, the grace, determination, good character.
Absolutely, the best perform and presence is Marya Doyle Kennedy , for age, graceful , classy, strong character and dignity queen . The only issue is Catalina was blonde .
Lately productions insist present these personalities young forever , Oh my ... 🤦🏻♀️ , that obssesion for ethernal youth . They are wrong .
Why did they portray her so often with black hair? she was fair haired.
Prejudice about the Spanish. I guess they simply thought that a Spanish woman had to have dark hair, without even doing the research what hair Catherine had in reality.
To emphasize the fact that she was Spanish and therefore different. I get that most Spanish people have dark hair and features, but not all of them are like that.
Sometimes too, fair hair darkens a little as person matures. Also if you do see the portrait of Katherine in a gable hood: no hair is showing at all. Ditto the gable hood portrait of Jane Seymour. People to this day leave pomegranates at Queen Katherine’s grave. Pomegranates were her heraldic device.
But had blue eyes. As in The Tudors,
(Ann Boleyn had dark eyes and in The Tudors blue), we can make a lot of problems concerning all those facts : Henri VIII was NOT handsome and J.R. Meyers doesn’t look like him at all.
Shall I go on ? …. 😮
I applaud them all but my favorite is hands-down Marie Doyle Kennedy.
Woaw those "earlier ones" really played Queen Catherine as almost hysterical 😔. Though they did better with Catherine's actual strawberry blond hair colour. Why they went back to dark brown/black?!🤔
But I really liked portrayals of Catherine of Aragon by Spanish actresses like: Assumpta Serna and Ana Torrent in (2003) 'Henry VIII' and (2008) 'The Other Boleyn Girl'.
And the job done by Maria Doyle Kennedy is really good, in 'The Tudors' ('07-'10). Though the 14 years age difference between her & Jonathan Rhys Meyers was "a bit" more 😉than the actual 6 years age gap, between Catherine & Henry✌🏻.
And well 'The Spanish Princess' 🤦🏼♀️('19-'20)....the less said the better 🤐👍🏻
Yeah, I must admit I have never understood the hype about the 1970 Catherine performance by Crosbie. Not only that it won a BAFTA back then (I know the the level of tv shows wasn't so high back then, so maybe the performance was good in 1970), but still today, on every historical forum about Catherine of Aragon, I always see that everyone praises the 1970 and 1972 Catherines and says Crosbie was THE benchmark Catherine of Aragon and soo great. Honestly, I don't understand 🤷♀️ I saw the series and I find her acting okay sometimes, but other times it's just so cringe.... Especially the hysterics.
I agree with you about Serna and Torrent, they both raise the level of the production they are in with their performances.
And Maria Doyle Kennedy is just perfection ❤ I found her madeup Spanish accent a bit weird at first but then I got used to it. And her acting is so great and a good tribute to the real Catherine. I don't even care that her appearance was not 100% like Catherine (although it would have been quite easy to just dye her hair to a lighter color, I don't know why they didn't...). The comparison between her and Charlotte Hope is the perfect example that just because you look very much like a certain historical figure, it doesn't mean you are the best casting choice to play him/her.
My intro to the Tudors was the Masterpiece Six Wives of Henry the Eighth, with Keith Michell. It’s time I’ve seen him since childhood!
This vídeo is amazing, Thanks for the recopilation!! My personal favourites are María Doyle Kennedy and Paola Bontempi, both show the dignity she had, how good queen & kind woman she was and also her religious & motherly side! About appeareance, I think the most accurate one for adult CoA is Frances Cuka, she's very pettite, chubby , with round face, the same brunette hair color CoA has in her potraits & blue eyes! Also, though she didn't got many screentime since it was a movie of Henry's entire life, I really liked Frances' performance, probably one of the most accurate CoAs on my opinion. As young CoA, I really like both Isabel's CoA and Annette Crosbie, though Crosbie as adult CoA is way too innacurate. My least fave potrayal is probably TSP, her personality is totally changed, same seems to happen with that first potrayal you showed here (I didn't know it), CoA seems to be potrayed as villain of Mary Tudor when they were friends!!
All those poor women that victim to him. His std is most likely the cause of the babies dying.
That's what a lot of research points to these days.
Catherine had light coloured hair ..... Annette Crosby is the best. Catherine's accent wasn't so strong .. she had been in England for several decades.
The Scottish and Irish actresses did a good job with the accent, specially with the rrrr sounds , other ones not so good (except obv the Spanish)
Actually Henry VIII's first wife was more of a redhead, but since Spanish women tend to be thought of as all dark-skinned, black-haired and dark-eyed, that's how it stayed in the movies.
The same happens with King Philip II of Spain who was blond with light eyes but naturally they follow the stereotypes that even the Spaniards themselves like to present if they are going to be Hollywood actors, numerous Spanish actresses and actors have not been able to make their careers because they are blond, light-eyed even with the Spanish accent have not been able to play Hispanics.