Is Oleksandr Usyk now the greatest boxer of all time? | Fury vs Usyk reaction
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Oleksandr Usyk defeated Tyson Fury by split decision to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, the first since Lennox Lewis.
Fury was on the brink of being stopped in the ninth round as he received a standing count and Usyk added the WBC title to his WBA, IBF and WBO belts after earning victory with scores of 115-112, 113-114, 114-113 in Saudi Arabia.
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World Amateur Gold - Olympic Gold - Cruiserweight Undisputed World Champion - Heavyweight Undisputed World Champion : Can you name another? NO. … he is the greatest ever and that is in itself INDISPUTABLE
You're so right
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Nowere near the greatest
@@David-be7jn we don't give a damn about your opinion
@@David-be7jn cry baby, cry
They are all bums in this division. They wouldn’t lace Vitalis boots
He’s up there. You can’t deny it. That resume is unbelievable.
Yes, but he hasn't defended his undisputed title. You can't rank him as high as Holyfield or Frazier or Holmes or Ali who defended their undisputed titles against better competition than wobbly Fury.
@@johnsonanum I did say up there. I’m not saying he is number one, I agree you have to defend those titles. But he’s definitely the best of this generation for sure. And top 10 of all time imo. Easy to Slate fury also, but a lot of those names would struggle with fury pal.
@@astradala1845 Yes, he is arguably the best of his generation. But keep in mind that this generation spends too much time avoiding each other and Usyk has only fought 5 heavyweights (4 of them from one country).
@@johnsonanum For sure, but I would not say Uysk has avoided anybody ever, I think he is the one heavyweight who has gone for the big fights. The others talk and talk but never fight, like you said. I mean how long have we waited for Fury Vs AJ.
@@astradala1845 Perhaps Usyk fought those guys because they were the champions and he was the underdog of the division. I'll believe you if, now he's the champion, he takes on hungry younger fighters like Joseph Parker, Filip Hrgovic and Agit Kabayel.
Lomachenko, Usyk, GGG these guys had over 320+ Amature fights each.
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then switch flags Eddie would have them fast tracked after 5 fights.. It's a different mentality and ethic compared to the UK.. we love to rush fighters imo..
That’s why they so dominant when it comes to the pros they are fully formed.
We rush our fighters through which I get it’s a violent sport you want to be getting paid as soon as possible.
and Beterbiev
Professional fights are the measure of a great boxer. Beating up taxi drivers and receptionists in amateur fights doesn't count. Sugar Ray Robinson isn't the greatest PFP boxer because of his 85 amateur fights, but because of his 201 professional fights against many excellent fighters.
✅ Olympic Gold Medalist 🥇
✅ Undisputed Cruiserweight Champ 👑
✅ Undisputed Heavyweight Champ 👑
✅ Undefeated
✅ Lineal Champ
✅ Amateur record: 335 wins vs 15 losses!
Very humble champion, & undisputed gentleman. IMO, he is the GOAT! but absolutely one of the best of all time! 👑
Very impressive
Don’t think this record will ever be broken
If you didn't think he was special before the Bellew fight, i don't know what to tell you.
I’m only 28 but he’s the best I’ve ever seen. I can’t think of another boxer in the modern era that could overcome a 40lb weight difference. There’s weight categories for a reason and I get that it gets a bit different as the weights go up, but his CV is remarkable
He hasn’t fought anyone Ali fought great fighters
@@David-be7jn😂😂😂
Usyk is at least in the GOAT conversation,but in my book he is the GOAT
If Usyk is the best ever is arguable because there are a lot of factors to consider, but he is definitely the best ever in terms of achievements. He is Olympic gold medalist, amateur champion, undisputed cruserweight and heavyweight champion and still undefeated.
Ali won a gold medal as a TEENAGED light heavyweight! Then he became heavyweight champ at 22! Then he beat every great heavyweight in THREE different eras over 15 years and this was after being banned from boxing for 3 years in his prime!
Bottom line is that usyk is a great fighter but even his accomplishments pale in comparison to Ali!
National champ, european champ, world champ, 320+ amature fights, Muhammad Ali Trophy. Completely dominated cruiser weight division and moved up in weight division. Faced arguably two of the best Heavyweights in this era and won against both of them.
He lost a few in amateurs bro
@@rda6029 these are FACTS he's the GSP/Jones of boxing lol Ali was the greatest but I do believe that Usyk and Ali would a been a crazy ass fight but more than likely Ali woulda got that ass but who knows
@@rda6029 Ali never had the legendary amateur career Usyk has had, and he's lost 5 times whereas Usyk is undefeated as a professional.
Can you imagine the adulation & superlatives that would be flowing had Usyk been a smooth talking Brit? He would have been spoken of as the sportsman of the millennium. He absolutely has to be in the discussion for GOAT.
Exactly. British boxers are 50% hype, 30% talent and 20% ducking other boxers in their prime.
Facts! Even if he was American,
Sadly personality and marketability plays a big part in boxing
What a lad he is..not just a quality fighter but so humble as well..congratulations usyk..❤
He's cleaned out the Cruiserweights and Heavyweights, Congrats to Usyk a very Special fighter indeed
& Olympic Gold Medalist! He’s a legend
Usyk has achieved so much in 22 fights, one of the best this generation
Why would there be a re-match,Usyk has already humiliated him once and Fury was only saved by the ref last night....
Because its in the contract
@@CamMackay96yeah you mean like the same way Fury honored the rematch clause with Wlad?! 😅
Usyk shud retire now. He's done it all. Don't need the money. I widnt give fury a rematch. He got done embarrassed by the middleweight.
@@CamMackay96doesn't mean they have to fight ?..one could retire ?
@@Smiffy-72he could do but what does that do for his legacy?
Usyk, Loma, Messi, Federer - my favourite athletes. Humble warriors of Christ.
Best ever? no one could possibly know that but definitely the best of his era!!
They mean with everyone known in the history of Boxing.
@@stephenwangondu3618 Well my personal opinion for the 3 best heavyweights ever are 1. Lennox Lewis (Beat every man he ever stepped in the ring with) 2. Muhammad Ali 9 Greatest chin and lateral movement for a heavyweight) 3. Joe Louis (World champion for 12 years straight) So no I don't think Usyk is the best ever but is the best in this erra.
@@jjfredrickson3641Usyk would kill 180lb joe Louis
He’s definitely one of them. Humiliated Fury. Saved by the ref!
He didn’t humilitae him for gods sake
What a bizarre thing to say
Some fukin right knobs obviously had to many lines last night
@@TimComleytotally humiliated Fury. Schooled him, thrashed him, humiliated him. Just watch how ridiculous Fury looks bouncing around the ropes.
This is not Ali rope-a-dope this is Fury getting exposed in real time for the cherry picking fraud he’s been all along.
Sorry some harsh criticism from me, it’s not a personal attack on you, I just think Usyk is a far superior fighter.
Fury outboxed Usyk most the fight, apart from round 9 Usyk didn't do much.
Undisputed in cruiser and now heavy and undefeated I’m sorry but he has to been seen as the greatest of all time.. I no it’s hard to look at the past and compare but the greatness is real
Holyfield did the same.
You’re not serious 😂 he’s not the first to do that. Secondly the competition he beat isn’t all that. The only all time great he beat was arguably fury. And even then is fury an all time great? There are guys like Inoue who has done the same thing ln 3 weight classes
@@FrankieBlueEyes And Holyfield defended his undisputed heavyweight title three times (against legends like Larry Holmes and George Foreman), so he is still greater than Usyk.
@@FrankieBlueEyes Yeah, but Holyfield was never an Olympic Gold medalist like Usyk either. They are not the same. Usyk is much better.
@jboi6398 saying Usyk is much better is an opinion, and you're entitled to it. But don't state it as if it's an absolute fact. Especially when it's one that would be highly disputed by many. For the record, though, Holyfield is a big Usyk fan. He spoke to him before the fight and picked him to beat Fury..
He’s the greatest cruiserweight of all time no doubt.
Holyfield.
@@FrankieBlueEyes he’d beat Holyfield imo.
@@Asadali_98 I don't know about that. You probably didn't watch prime Evander.
@@Asadali_98 it's all opinions, who knows? I watched Holyfield in his prime as a cruiserweight and heavyweight and he was a great fighter. He's from my Era, so I am biased toward him. I will say this, Usyk is a guy that I think gets underestimated time and time again and just keeps proving people wrong.
@@lothianslegacy9409 it’d be a very good fight but I reckon usyk edges it.
For sure. He hasn't lost since the amatures and has beaten the best in every devision, cleaning out all the top guys as he's gone through. You can't say that about Ali, Tyson, Lewis. So guys, he is such a hard working and focused guy. The best ever.
I think he should retire honorably so he doesn't mess up his sublime records
Retire like a coward, yes. Just like Riddick Bowe.
@@johnsonanum Smart men retire before it's too late and severe damage gets done, get a clue kid
Like a coward? I think you are talking about Luke Fury, mate. Luke never gave Vladimir a rematch. He could have fought Aj years ago bust he hasn't. Usyk beat him and then Aj twice. @johnsonanum
Top 3 best boxers right now
Usyk 🇺🇦 Inoue 🇯🇵 Bud 🇺🇲
All undefeated and all 2x division undisputed champions
But one did it with a 40 pound disadvantage
And then add the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev , if it happens , and we should have the top 4 , p4p
Hrgović is top 3
Canelo?
@@francosteinmann3238Usyk win Beterbiev two times in amateur
His ring IQ and intelligence is incredible. He just finds a way to win. He's amazing .
No he's just the best around right now, you can only be the best in your time in your chosen sport
Usyk is one of the best ever without a doubt.
If he could also successfully defend his title against Hrgovic, Parker, Zhang, Wilder or Kabayel. Itd be hard not to consider him the goat.
Comparing athletes across generations is tough, and we should factor in how they compared to their peers at the time. Even so, prime 1960s Ali was untouchable in more ways than one - unbeatable and virtually unhittable with superhuman reflexes. He was freakishly exceptional, gifted with natural talent. Just imagine Ali with today's nutrition and training. Scary. I'd say he's cemented as the GOAT.
Meanwhile, Usyk will certainly go down as one of the GOATs.
No one never been UNDISPUTED in two weight categories only USYK DONE IT and in just 22 fights so there is no comparison to be made against no one.
To me OLEKSANDR USYK IS GOAT
Usyk is human after all .What a legend .
Usyk as of today is definitely the most accomplished boxer of all time.😀 No doubt.
Think Sugar Ray Robinson may have something to say about that ...
All our champions are overrated these days. But put them in a ring with Ray Robinson or Harry Greb or Sam Langford or ......and they won't last 20 rounds.
@@johnsonanumyeah ok unc take your meds
@@johnsonanum😂🤣🤡
It will never be done again
Tyson, Knockout (TKO) - Round 9
You cant be the best ever because its impossible to compare different era's, just be happy with best of his time in boxing, hope he retires unbeaten,one more fight and call it a day
Usyk oozes class. Absolute legend of a man
He's in the conversation for sure. He needs a few more high profile fights imo.
Definitely among the very best
No mention of Lennox Lewis?
Lewis is the goat.
Lewis is great but at the time of his career no one was saying that
@@jasonallatt5410 they were
Lewis was beat
@@stevenicol1 nope, I remember loads of people saying that the last generation was better. Always the same. People are appreciated after they retire. Don’t forget Lewis was knocked out twice by one punch. Not knocking him because he revenged the losses but people were calling him chinny.
One of the best, to all the old heads, embrace greatness
No
I’m 19 and I learned about the heavyweights who were some of the best heavyweight of all time in boxing history
Muhammad Ali number one
Number two joe Louis
Usyk is not even a top ten heavyweight of all time
@@shazebahmed0704 you overrate past fighters. happens in every sport. athletes are always better than the last generation
@@oliviertrudel2384 that’s not true usyk would not beat Ali joe Louis George Foreman Larry holmes joe Frazier
Riddick bowe evander Holyfield lennox Lewis
@@shazebahmed0704 he would. like it or not fighters always get better.
Best boxer of this era
Achieved a lot in a short time
Hats off to him
Usyk should retire on top
Definitely in the top 10.
Mile Tyson ? Ali? Sugar ray Robinson? Mayweather? Lewis? Joe Louis?
Mike tyson lost to evander. Usyk vs evander would be a close fight
Ray Robinson was the goat over 200 professional fights 89-0 as a amateur
I remember when fury said usyk maybe Alexander but he is the greatest...it was a good fight for both too...
I’d say probably one of the top 3 heavyweights of all time imo, can’t rank him below the top 5. In terms of greatest boxers of all time, that one is harder to break through, too many legendary fighters in history, certain in that he isn’t number 1 but could break top 10, which is nothing to be scoffed at.
Could break top 10? You're having a laugh. No one has achieved what he achieved and we dont know when somoen will. Holyfield was undesputed not in the 4 belt era. Usyk has beat everyone on away soil, won the muhammed ali trophy, olympic gold medal, european champ, and hes fought agaisnt monsters who are all way taller, heavier, and higher reach. Ali fought agaisnt people hen was taller than. Usyk doesnt get the credit he deserves
@@rediii9239 Top 10 boxers of all time? I think it’s possible he’s broken into that, but are you insane saying there’s no doubt? Have you seen some of the names that there are on this list? Forget amateurs, many fighters won Olympic gold etc. it means nothing, we’re talking about pro boxing, although we can name people like Ray Robinson who went 84-0 with 69 KO in amateurs and as a pro was undisputed in 2 divisions multiple times having gone on an 89 fight win streak. Or Ali who beat multiple generations of legendary fighters during the golden age of heavyweight boxing, including peak Foreman who even 20 years later became world champion. Or Joe Louis who had 26 defences of his world title. Or Pacquiao who won titles in 8 divisions, or Mayweather who beat the who’s who in a good age of lightweight and welterweight boxing. Or Henry Armstrong who held 3 of 8 glamour division world titles at one time and went 27-0 in 1 year with 26 KOs. Or Roberto Duran who was a career lightweight and won titles as high as light heavyweight.
And there are many other legendary achievements in the history of boxing.
Usyk is a great fighter and I’m being generous when I say he could break in with these guys, because some of the achievements of these guys are other worldly.
And discrediting Ali in poor taste when it’s long been said this era has an overrated set of heavyweights. The only legit heavyweights Usyk fought taller than him are AJ and Fury, unless we’re also counting the legendary Dubois.
He’s nowhere near any conversation of one of the greatest😂😂😂 his pro career hasn’t got the depth to even think this!!! He’s only had 20odd fights!!!!!You do realise fury lost to an mma fighter mind and now your all going crazy cause usyk beat him
Usyk is one of the greatest of all time! And Usyk won very convincingly! So send the memo to any delusional fools Usyk clearly won and is certainly one of the greatest of all time!!!
Yes....yes he is!
Usyk is now a top 5 boxer of all time.
usyk to be pro trainer in the future . and to be talked about like gus damato
He is definitely in the discussion but imho he isn’t in the top five. Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran, Joe Louis and Henry Armstrong will NEVER be dethroned. They were rarified specimens of the sport.
The rematch will be highly anticipated. Tyson Fury is a smart fighter and he will be back much better.
As long as Fury don't call himself the greatest I'm good!
What a humbler for the big mouthed Fury fans.
You guys please keep silent abeg 😂😂😂
I think hes deffo put himself in the conversation
Yep hes a GOAT
Yes he is (of this era only, he's not moving Ali or either Lewis). I'm a massive, massive Fury fan but the truth is the truth. Fury imo, had the chance to take his spirit. He had him hurt at times but seemed to hesitate after key body shots. The clowning around, goading, showing off at times, not wise from Fury. It was too close at times but ultimately it comes down to woulda, shoulda, coulda. Fury had chances to win this but Usyk's technique and IQ can't be ignored. Simple as that. It should have been stopped in round 9, Fury has amazing recovery skills but if the ref doesn't intervene he goes out on his back.
Cleared entire heavyweight devision in 6 fights!
Yes, Usyk is the Greatest
Yes, Muhammad Ali is the greatest heavyweight ever.
@@johnsonanum Klitschko had more title defenses than Ali and was a longer reigning champion
@@jboi6398 Yes, but Klitschko dominated a much weaker era of heavyweight boxing than Ali. Ask anyone who knows boxing history.
@@johnsonanum Ali lost usyk did not
He did what he had to ,humbly, he is there for boxing. Never put no boxer down. They tried playing and mocking him, ref and one judge were seemingly shady. He is not a big mouth ,braggart, or smart ass. Bratya walk away now and avoid the drama. Nahshee loodeh. Slava .
The people do not even realize how hard it is to fight against a guy who is 5kg heavier than you, but not even 15 kg it's immense advantage and gigantic reach advantage and usyk beat 3 OF THEM
Of all time? Hard to say. Of the last two decades? 100% yes.
No, come on. I'm not having that. He's at the top table, let's just leave it at that.
It took almost 24 years to get a new Undisputed Heavyweight Champion and it took Usyk only 6 fights at Heavyweight to become Undisputed champion. 50 years time we will be talking about Olexander Usyk.
Greatness. Legend. G.O.A.T
Nah
Yes
He is definitely the best boxer of this generation.
Maybe not the greatest of all time, but certainly the greatest of our time ❤
I think a prime Ali beats Usyk but hes definitely in the convo
He beat bigger heavier opponents and beat opponents in their back yard guys a winner 22 fights thats crazy 😊
Usyk is very special and the best of his generation but to say he's the best ever, I'd have to disagree. I think Lewis, Ali, Tyson fought much tougher era's.
Madness
Usyk is, just like Fury, one of the all time greats, but but no means, just like Fury isn't, the greatest of all time. To be be that you have to rule for many years and beat top opposition.
Greatest ever no not in my opinion, but he’s the best of this era and an all time great
You have to put him up there, Unified Cruiser and Heavy in so few fights.
The man has done everything in boxing, beat the best, schooled the best. And for suxh a small guy to school the big heavyweights.
The GOAT, Werry Nice, Werry Feel!
You have got to be kidding me? Emile Griffith, Sugar Ray's (x2), Ali, Frazier, Duran, Hagler, Pacquaio, Mayweather, Jones. Hes not even in the debate.
Usyk has to be up there with the greatest
Forget me nots..he's the best now
You can't compare generations.
Well,he could be good but Muhammad Ali remains the greatest of all time coz he combined a lot of things,so entertaining,very fast, the science of art etc
The best ever by a mile .
Nope, too five yes but not the best.. I can think of five others that would knock him out
I’d say he is, I thought Fury would destroy him.
He’s tiny as a heavy weight and beat everyone
USYK is definitely in the conversation for greatest boxer ever because he did it in only 22 professional fights.
Holyfield done the same in 24 fights but in a much better division plus Holyfield is also the only 4 time heavyweight champion! Usyk hasn’t got the depth or longevity to even consider that😂😂
Certainly the most accomplished HW of all time.
Better than Ali?
No.
Yeah all the noise is settled now, kudos to Usyk for overpowering Fury
Least fights of all time to attain goat status talk…
No. This generation yeh you can say that but when different era has their best ever & theyre all diffrent then you cant compare them
What do you mean closed fight ? USYK beats him clean period
What sort of title is that? Best boxer of all time? He’s fantastic but best of all time is a stretch.
It’s absolutely pathetic I think! Usyks professional career doesn’t have the depth or longevity to even think about this! It’s sad if you ask me
He is the best boxer. There are boxers and there is USYK17
GOAT he is. What a performance by the Ukrainian. Ukrainian boxing is something 👏
Let’s not pretend that the heavy weight division is anything but a shadow of what it once was.
I’m old enough to know that every knob head from each era thinks the era before was better. Trust me in 20 years they will look back at this is a golden era.
@@jasonallatt5410 not true but fighters now avoid each other a lot more to stay undefeated and fight no bodies for the cash and hype. Why has aj not had a fight with fury?
If anything Uysk would of found it easier. The boxers of today are huge.
@kb4903 The sport has simply changed. But then, so has the world. Footballers are now billionaires, boxers can earn more than 100mill per fight, and the size of organisation between each event is colossal.. That's no fault of the fighters and doesn't take away from their ability. You'd need some special rose tinted goggles to suggest that a Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, or Joe Louis wouldn't struggle in today's Cruiserweight division, let alone modern HW, where your average fighter is 6ft 4+, 240+ pounds, has access to world class training and nutrition.... Times change. To repeat one of the comments above... we are fortunate enough to live through a golden era.
@@robbieburtt5942 maybe be. But Lewis Tyson would smash any of these fighters imo.
Usyk actually won by TKO but the ref messed up
It's not down to Fury to dictate if he has a rematch, if anything, it will be Usyk. Fury has 0 belts.
Amazing Champion 🎉. However I pray he lives to a very old age cos that's over 300+fights/concussion 😮
usyk is an all time great
Mohammed Ali is GOAT
Ali lost
Usyk is the man
Definitely a great but definitely a shame he was amongst fighters nowhere on his level, I said from day 1 he beats everybody at hw except AJ (if Joshua used his size and went at Usyk)
I laughed when i read the headline. Grow up.
Not even close. If fury went & won 100 AMATEUR fights that wouldnt make him the goat.
For Usyk's professional career, again not even close. His last 3 opponents were good yes in Fury, dubois & Aj but thats as far as it goes in terms of real pedigree (No i dont inc you Chisora).
The rest were just tin cans.
Im not saying that being undefeated isnt impressive but the top 2 weight classes of voxing have had but s handful of true superstars for the last 20yrs & even then, they spend yrs ducking each other.
I KNOW that anyone over the age of 30 would be able to pick a minimum of 5-10 boxers better than Usyk.
Being i.e 7th doesnt put you in the conversation to be the goat, top 3 does! 😂
No, but he is among the greatest..
Usyk and sugar ray Robinson are the goats
No. Argument for top 10 but his level of competition has been too low historically speaking to rank him higher. Perhaps just behind Holyfield.
If he beats tyson in the rematch i think he is.....
Of course not. Usyk is obviously a fantastic boxer and arguably the best of his era but Ali is still the GOAT in my opinion. If Fury wins the rematch and they have a 3rd match, whoever wins that one is the best of this era and will maybe go down in history as one of the best of all time.
Usyk is no joke