Absolutely. But when a cop murders a civilian, law enforcement always paints the victim as a bad guy so that the cop gets off. If you've ever gotten a traffic ticket you're painted as some kind of criminal mastermind who deserved getting killed.
Because he was otherwise a completely upstanding member of society and his community. An incredible young man that just liked to partake of something less harmful than alcohol. But because it's currently illegal in Texas outside of for medical purposes, it's the only thing they can say was wrong about him. But everyone knows that it wasn't actually wrong, so it prompted a huge backlash last month. Plus, it was only found in his apartment after a search (which wasn't really necessary), so Amber could never have known that he had it - thus it couldn't have been relevant to the crime.
For those who don’t know...a neighbor named Joshua Brown, who was the key witness who got Guyger convicted, was found murdered Friday Oct 4 shortly after the trial. He was 28 years old.
He was shot 1 in the mouth and another in the chest. If someone shoots at the mouth, it's to show that the guy was a snitch and this is what happens to snitches...This is too crazy, how do you Americans live with this? Edit: This was a tweet by Lee Meritt, Judge Clay Jenkins tweeted said it's thigh and back. Several witnesses have some differences of back and buttocks. Police confirmation from 3 hours ago, only said LOWER BODY. Apologies for the misinformation.
Black woman in her own home fired off warning shot while being abused and assaulted to protect herself, once again actually in her own home, got 20 years. #FACTS. Her true crime. She wasn't an Amber.
They twisted her story to make it seem she was in fear for her life. Instead, the prosecutor won the argument that she shot the gun in anger. It is ridiculous. There is a petition for her and other black men and women who are in jail for similar reasons. I don't know why I can't add the link.
Hey now, don't throw all of us under the bus because of one idiot, lol. I don't want to be compared to this monster. She deserves way more than 10 years; she straight murdered Botham Jean.
Ashtarte Not throwing you under the bus Ash but these white thinking judges without empathy for all, which are put in place by other 'white only' thinkers are a fundamental problem. Another Kavanaugh moment..of course her life will never be the same but there are black kids tried and sentenced like adults because the judges lack the empathy for them which they do have for Amber.. these kids will never hug their family in freedom again
@RONI He's great, isn't he? But he didn't exactly apply for the job as I understand it. He has a video clip on TH-cam somewhere where he talks about shopping somewhere and his phone rings and it's Jon Stewart asking him if he's interested in interviewing to host the Daily Show and he thought the guy was trolling him so he hung up! It's hilarious. I recommend searching it out.
Seriously. Even Trevor gives him mother and grandmother tons of credit, you’ll have to watch his Netflix video to see that. He’s humble as hell, and I love that about him. # Blessed.
AND This dialogue is well appreciated‼️ He’s listening like us all. Commenting of Who’s in with who’s commonalities was acute. But what is it we need? A bit of shade, a cool breeze on a hot day, with frosty drink in one hand? I’ll explain it; 🙏🏾 Monocultures are impossible to maintain over time, 🙏🏾 They simply burn 🔥themselves and their environments🔥out of existence
@ricky roach I just wish the people tired of being persecuted and the POTUS holding a bible in front of a desecrated church while smoke gassing peaceful protestors in the name of God out the way would just understand that him needing that photo op with a upside down bible is all love and what they need in a time of pain and hurt after the murder of another innocent.
He would have been shot when cops arrived. All you will hear from the press will be a black man broke in and shot a white female neighbor one floor below his apartment. After 3-hr. standoff with the police, the suspect was gunned down by the police. Motive unknown. Case closed.
The brothers forgiveness was for his own heart. Some people have to forgive or else hate will eat them alive. But the fact that the justice system failed THIS BADLY makes me sick to my stomach.
There's something really wrong with this world when a talk show host on "comedy" central makes more sense than most people especially people who are supposed to be in a position of power.
Lol you are so blind. Trevor Noah is in a position of power and he is brainwashing all of u. Making sure that nobody can see people as individuals instead of by their skin color. I agree she should serve 10yrs at least and that all drugs should be legal. Check out libertarians like Ron Paul. I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how much shit he says about republicans
What about Asians? What about Latinos? What about indigenous people? Why only to black? Dont you think it would be rascist to exclude others? It would be wrong in the same way as having a slogan "Black lives matter." No, "ALL and EVERY life matters!" Thats the correct slogan, yet I dont see anyone in America walking with such a billboard slogan. That could only mean that everyone is a rascist there.
@@russells9590 the whataboutisms don't really work here. There's a centuries old and continuing stigmatisation that comes with having darker skin or more melanin. Indeed it's not unusual to see some Asians and Latinos look down on Black folk. Hell, India till this day has an awful caste system - you'll rarely find dark skinned lead actors in Bollywood!!
@AL CAPPS I'm not saying the awful struggles other ethnicities have to face are nonexistent. My point was how the colour of Black skin in particular became a stigma by Western societies, after a legacy of slavery and segregation.
So why is no one talking about how her first reaction was to draw and fire her gun, and not to ask the very simple and very important question of "What are you doing in my apartment?" "Ma'am this is my apartment , yours is right over there" "Oh that's right, my bad lol"... The whole incident would have been avoided if she had only bothered to see the man in front of her as another human being and not as some monster criminal. Edit: Thanks for all of the up votes!
Because in 'Murica nobody talks if they can shoot somebody. Seriously though if he'd be a real intruder he'd most likely had a weapon and she'd be dead now.
No, for gun safety and responsible gun ownership you "know your target" and the guy was just hanging out in his apartment. I doubt he even had a threatening or suspicious stance. She shot him because he was black and she was conditioned to see a black man as a threat.
@swimingbird88 she could have left! She could have stepped out and called the police. Police call for backup all the time. That was one of the key points in the trial that she was able to leave. She could have left the apartment and if she had nobody would have died. Step out, call the police or backup or whatever and then they arrive at her actual apartment or they defuse the situation. She was not in a situation where her only recourse was deadly force. She had other options and many. She chose to kill him.
I am editing because Bitch wasn't drunk. I was wrong, I was remembering when this happened and news stated she was intoxicated although at trial, she was not intoxicated but sexting and distracted. Maybe That wouldn't have been how it went down. He might still would have died. This is why I hate alcohol, easy access to guns, and dumb humans with NO Self Control!
There’s a lot of disturbing things about this story, many of which Trevor brought up. However, from my non-American perspective, the thing that has struck me about this story is the repeated comments from American media of how “you should feel safe to not get shot in your own home”. Because, really, that’s how low your bar is now? Shouldn’t you be able to feel safe to not get shot REGARDLESS of where you are, REGARDLESS of the colour of your skin? Shouldn’t that be considered the bare minimum? You shouldn’t be upset that a black man got shot in his home by a white, off-duty police woman; you should get upset that a black man was shot at all. The fact that the only place one should expect to feel safe is in your own home is a sad indictment of American society.
In Texas, 10 years for walking in to someone’s apartment & killing him? Again, this happened in Texas, where most people get death penalty for the same crime, especially if brown or black
You're full of shit on that last bit. Show me the data that supports your racist idea that black and brown people are out to death more often than white people in Texas. You can't, because that data doesn't exist.
@@tenacious645 the fact that this white chic got ten years should be proof enough. Tell me about just one black person who committed murder and got a similar sentence.
You know what I wonder; If that man had shot and killed her ass for entering his home unannounced, how much time would these fools have tried to give him. After all, Everybody has a right to protect their home. Nobody has to wait for you to shoot first, because that could be the killshot.
tenacious645 Show you the data? Why should I invest my time for you, stop being lazy, open your eyes, and do some work yourself if you are so interested to know.....
Pritam Roy because Trevor tries his best to view things in a perspective intellectual/compasionate angle. having detached himself from the topic yet still inciting details with certain consideration of both side and all corners of the story.
Pritam Roy BS! Criminals no matter the color, or police should serve time and get punishment- weakening law will only cause more people not to abide by the laws!
@@adrianejackson5118 he didn't say weaken the law.. He said you should still be punished the same but the sympathy must be shown to all people not just white women
This is why I love Trevor. I didnt know where my anger was coming from because I too believe in forgiveness. I was so upset and outraged because my brothers and sister dont get the same empathy these white folks get. You explained my heartache and anger Trevor. Now I'm just crying😢😢😢
Yes! He hit it right! I was so upset and didn't know why! Now I know! That black boy needs to be hugged too. That black woman needs a hug and a lighter sentence too! We all need the same love and compassion that this ignorant racist was shown!
You said what I was thinking. I saw the hug as a child needing to forgive a murderer before it ate his soul, but also someone needing a hug himself. It was a natural and compassionate move. I marvel at his maturity
Abbas Salman in your bible it says strike off the heads off any that does not convert to Islam...look it up people it actually says that, they are also aloud to marry child’s brides but I guess that’s friendly too
Desmond Beats what a second how the fuck you just assumed I believe in that. What wrong man there is 1.8 B Muslims do you think all of them think the same
Thinking about this story made me so angry at the systemic injustices in this country. I was angry at the fact that before the trial I already expected a lenient sentence for the murderer, even though we all know it'd be different if the roles were reversed. I'm very grateful to Trevor for being able to talk about this so articulately and powerfully, yet reminding me to treat human beings with respect and compassion. There's a lot of work to be done, and we should be angry, but let's not lose ourselves, too.
@@mikeshardly this situation seem suspicious as well as coincidental in the timing. We don't have all the facts but when you're dealing with the trial of a cop implicated in a murder that brings doubt.
Big difference between a person who came to kill somebody and one who killed in defense of their well being. In most states, she would have never been given a murder charge, but a lesser, manslaughter, or a reckless manslaughter charge.
@swimingbird88 don't want to be pessimistic but until the system is freed from corruption and greed it will never change. Value of the dollar speaks volume in todays society, sadly.
@@Mckriscatun one of those about victims and prosecuted coming together. Not uncommon for some to forgive. Rae Carruth was forgiven byv the murdered girls mom. Rhianna forgave Chris Etc.
Trayvon Martin . . .news media said he had smoked weed (maybe days prior). Had nothing to do with anything related to his murder. - Great summation. The inequality is simply overwhelming.
What was the first leak (accident my ass) that was leaked the suspects name which only the cops knew for 3 days, or the accidental leak that Bothem had weed in his apartment? Of course to try to tarnish his image and justify his life wasn't worth much. so the cop killing of another unarmed black person (this time in "his" own home) that the judge allowed the murdering cop to use "his" castle defense since it was "his" home. The boldness and arrogance is just a silent message. And that is yeah, we all know what's going on, but what are you gonna do about it? And really what can be done about it when the police are policing the police?
That statement right there shows how bias can effect perception. I'm not saying you're wrong but the truth is that no one actually knows what she is thinking, but some of us will look at her through the lens of past experiences and constructs, and as a result, see her as someone grappling with her guilt while others will see her through the lens of past experiences and constructs, and as a result, see her as someone fearing jail.
Yeah but I'm sure she did a lot of laughing later, when she got a dose of reality. "I live in the US, I'm white and a cop that killed a black guy in cold blood; what the hell was I worried for? The guy's brother didn't even want me to go to jail. And I got hugged by the judge on top of that. So long suckers. Hahaha, hahaha, hahahaha.
@@jamesorsby7553 Even the fact that the justice system gave her the oppertunity to have the last laugh, irrespective of whether she chose to or not ( I mean, she might even get a decent job after getting out, but still), is a disgrace to the system itself.
@@curious_one1156 I agree wholeheartedly. There needs to be a complete and total transformation of the justice system, but I guess if it hasn't happened in all this time , it probably never will. Smh
On top of that they give her 10 year witch mean she will be out in lest then 5 for good behavior !!!!! when the black lady that fired a warning shot gets i thank 20 to life!!! of course she was Black!!!! no Justice for us Black.
Not really, he just spent the entire video saying how he understands why people are outraged while not doing so for the accused. It may seem balanced to you, but for anyone coming from the other point of view, their points aren't even acknowledged in this video.
I'm a middle aged white woman, I can honestly say, her race played a huge part in the sentencing. If she were a woman of a color, 50 years, if she were a man of color, they would have maxed his sentence!! Our judicial system is out of control and completely biased. I've sat in a courtroom in my 20s and watched my white ex get probation, while his black co-defendant got 2 years. ***I want to note, my ex had a long criminal history starting at age 10. This was his friend's first offense. Color matters!! Believe it folks. The system is 100% rigged!!!
Jennifer Gridley -Not her race persay. If she had mousey brown hair and wore a size 18 she would have gotten a longer sentence. Call it what is....the prissy ass syndrome!!
I'm white and I dont believe this is real sounds like everyone gets what they deserve in different situations y all gotta stop blaming everything on race a better lawyer is usually the difference between sentences the judge was a black woman is she racist the jurors are mixed races are they all racist and easier on her because she is white get real dingdongs
@@Ericmcdonkey that's why he said "white woman tears"... yeahh she felt guilty yah she admitted she do wrong but another person there will not receive the same treaty/compassion as her... I trully admire her brother for forgiving her... not so much the judge for breaking Decorum but still is understandable... but you got so much cases of people of color getting so much worse for so much less... that you can't deny that still there is a 2 weight system...
It does, but I do actually think that in specific cases where that "excuse" is believable it should be taken into consideration during sentencing (but NOT convicting). Why? Because situational awareness is hampered in distress. People say "didn't she recognize the furniture??" well no not necessarily. Do you seriously think that if you walked into your house and found an intruder you would check the furniture surrounding you? NO, you wouldn't. You would see the potential threat because that is just how human nature is. And given that she was a police officer that makes this even more convoluted, because police SHOULD have training to overcome this natural human response to situational awareness reduction, but sadly they often dont.
@@paytcpaythecreator7264 I'm not going to read that wall of text but if it contains evidence not presented to me in the video then yes things may change. When I said to take it into consideration, ya know, like compare it with the other facts of the case
In HIS OWN HOUSE, eating ice cream and watching TV. She deserved more time. She had supposedly been trained to observe and make judgements. Rethink the training!
He was shot because of her police training. A normal person accesses the situation before pulling out a gun and killing somebody. Cops in the USA are taught (with popup targets) to shoot to kill first and access the situation after the person is dead. The motto of US law enforcement is "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.".
What? Even if it was her house and he had been intruding, if she finds him eating ice cream and watching tv, how would she be within her rights to shoot him?, ask him what he was doing there or even chase him out, but pull a gun on an unarmed man seems excessive regardless of the where and when
@TooMuchDramaInTheMilkyWay GalaxyThe excessive target practice is physiological training. It's to desensitize cops so they will kill people instantly on instinct.
I was in court once, and this hispanic man got 20 to life for having a ziplock bag full of weed. Sometimes I don’t understand the American justice system
American is ran by satan siblings. Yahawa says the world is giving to the wicked. America is babylon. I was shock to see people in other country are starting to see how evil America is.
I’m in tears right now and the only thing I can think of is “these tears don’t matter.” I will have to teach my daughter and son this one day and this hurts so much. I think he said it perfectly. We should be looked at with the same compassion. Looked at as a human being and not a life that should be thrown away. But we’re not 😢😢😢
In a time where people start to realize that weed isn't half as bad as it was made to appear and legislation around the world slowly starts to follow up on that no less.
Why there needs to be a national push for the end to federal marijuana prohibition. It hasn't worked, loss of tax revenue and has exacerbated racial discrepancies in the justice system.
One time I went home and found a dozen people going through my stach of cash so I got mad and pulled out my gun and demanded they hand it back to me in my bag. I ran out to call the cops only to realize I just robbed a bank. My bad.
T Knight drug dealers that drove 400 miles to exchange then shoot the kid in the mouth???? Cmon bruh... y’all didnt really believe that... think...! He was murdered for talking
She's out in 5 years, with good behavior. Won't be surprised if she's out sooner than that. They already murdered the neighbor who testified AGAINST her. Of course, the brother forgave her. Probably was intimated with his own life to convince for her to get the least amount of time.
How does a trained police officer walk into someone else's apartment, thinking that it is their own, and then shoot the person inside!!?? And how did this person even become a police officer in the first place!?
@@mjj1691 The door was also unlocked. That should have been another red flag. Then and there she should have realized it was the wrong apartment, or she should have thought that someone broke into her apartment and never even entered the apartment on her own.
You can blame that on entire USA. When little brown kids get killed in drone strikes and why this terrorism is never ending war they just say, "casualties of war" or "he'd end up a terrorist too" or "he shouldn't have been there, he was unlucky" etc etc!!
Arkham Assassin either way, it’s still the USA. Police of the world my ass... but now that you think about it how their own polices are back home, you’d understand why they call themselves the world police.. fucking pathetic.
Love how people try to blame the entire USA for one judge. Like how does one court case turn into people like @Arkham Assassin to talking about drone strikes and shit. In my county We’ve had the same black woman as a judge for 10+ years. She is super fair and everyone loves her. Just one judge in Dallas doesn’t reflect the whole damn country jeez
Let me say this again, a key witness was just murdered on Friday. I really hope his story will get the same attention and care that was felt for Amber, considering she’s the one guilty of murder.
@@gstar8425 No that's a reasonable argument. The original poster just reversed the circumstances, where they're asking if the sentence would have been as lenient had HE walked in thinking it was HIS house and shot HER in her home. The answer is no, they world have have tried for capital murder.
I love how the first thing out of her mouth was "I'm gonna lose my job." not "Oh my God, I just shot and killed a man. I just ended someone's life." Unbelievable.
I understand the point you are making, but it is part of human nature to focus on the most mundane things in a crisis (ie, someone’s house burning down and their first thought being about some simple chore they were planning on doing). There are certainly things to criticize in how she acted, but initially being incapable of focusing on the true tragedy of the situation is not one.
She thought the maximum punishment she is gonna get is losing her job and that's all she needed to worry about. If you look at past cop shootings where they shot innocent people, the maximum punishment they got was losing their job. Btw, cops are also trained to be a bit violent and not have emotional reactions on someone's death.
@@thrawncaedusl717 Focusing on mundane things in a crisis is not part of human nature. It is part of an animals nature. If YOU act like so, that doesn't mean that the rest of the world, is like you...
@V J I imagine me standing there and she gives me that book... "Erm, okeeeey and i use that for what now? I killed a person and going to jail for it, so this helps me...how?" Then the judge would instantly go back to her seat and curses me for beeing a godless person. And that was the story about how a judge shouldnt care about someones personal life.
She showed EXTREME bias, which no judge should do!😡 It would be like judge Ito👨🏻⚖ giving O.J. Simpson🏈 a hug!😅 However, the older I get, the better I understand our people. Black folks have been brainwashed to such a COMPLETE degree! It makes me very sad and mad!😡😔No one wants to be hated by the predominant group; to be on the bottom. Please see the "Willy Lynch Document". As a young boy, I remember watching Shirley Temple 📺 👩🏼bossing old Black folks around and, my sisters being presented with blonde Barbie dolls👧🏼 by relatives. MOST of the cartoons, kid shows and, movies I saw as a child, featured a "cute" little blonde girl or, "beautiful" blonde young lady being coddled, catered to, sought after or, rescued. Black Americans are the most despised people on Earth! We serve our country in the millitary, work in our communities as public servants and, even provide "the entertainment"😁☻ 💃🏿🎤🎺🎶🎷🎸for the comfort of "the mainstream" (you know who)! Yet, we are STILL the pararia of humanity. MAN, I just don't know anymore...smh😫😖😔We've done LITERALLY everything a people can do to gain acceptance or, at LEAST be "allowed" to live in peace. There are STILL those of "them" who hate Kappernick for starting the "kneeling thing", and STILL don't understand why he did it. May the good Lord grant the Botham AND Joshua Brown family solace. May He protect "Bunny" (the sista who sent the original footage📱 of 👮🏼♀️after she🔫☠Botham). Her story can be seen on African Diaspora TH-cam channel (formerly "The Advice Show"). I'm curious to see how my comment will haunt me in future; probably loose a job or something!😅 Peace, people! 👨🏾⚕️🏃🏾♂️👨🏿🏫
The world does not have a shortage of people who think like Trevor. The difference is Trevor has access to a platform and large enough audience to spread this message. People of color have been saying this for ages.
@@guershondorismond271 I agree.I guess what i am trying to get at it is that we don’t have enough influencers or people in power who have the same level of train of thought as him. I totally agree with you on what you’re saying !
She premeditated that murder. That young man’s apartment was directly above her apartment. The noise coming from the apartment directly above her apartment got on her nerves. “She ‘accidentally’ goes to the wrong floor” “She ‘accidentally’ opens the wrong door🚪 after standing on a mat she she doesn’t own” ALL burglars need to use that defense🙄 They accidentally went into the wrong house and accidentally killed the homeowner🤨
The sentence is too lenient. That was murder. If this was flipped, the white family would not have been so forgiving. Kudos for the brother he is a bigger man that i would ever be.
The jurors managed to get the verdict right, but felt an eye for an eye punishment was too extreme. An eye for an eye would be the death penalty for fuck sake! The prosecution wanted 28 years which meant a racist, murderer would be out in 14. How can that be considered too extreme? I don't understand this jury.
Eve O'Neill they wouldn’t have! he/she speaking base on facts & history. The defense had the audacity trying to paint the victim as as a weed smoking unruly bandit with a less than favorable history when he is the one laying 6 feet deep now you think if he was on the other end of that gun taking that white woman’s life her family would’ve been forgiving how naive can you be?
And makes people think its about race? Cmon be real. AG didnt get a hug cos she was white... she didnt get that level of compassion because she was white. She got all that love because botham was a loving and forgiving kid.
@@ytjoekim he wasnt talking about the family so much as the general tone around the trial. I love what the brother did. That shows a level of compassion that most people will never reach. But I dont think Trevor was so much criticizing the brother as he was the judge and he was correctly pointing out that young black men would not get that kind of treatment. Imagine if it was a black guy that walked into a white womans apartment "thinking it was his" and shot her. There would be no compassion or forgiveness. It would be outrage. And her sentence was definitely a result of sex and race.
@@rosshurst5630 why does it have to be a young black kid. Just turn it around the same way. If it was a young black kid that went into a wrong apartment and shot someone dead then no, but i think the same would have happened if it was a young white kid. What if it was a black officer that went into the wrong apartment and killed someone. I think he would have had the chance to get the same level of compassion. Dont you think? Dont get me wrong, racism is definitely a problem in this world, but not in every circumstance.
@@ytjoekim so you think the young kid would not have gotten the compassion but a black police officer would have? Yeah I dont necessarily disagree with that. I think being a white female officer was the perfect recipe for Amber to get off easy tho.
Ah yes, the whole "he had a tiny amount of marijuana in his system" that they do whenever an innocent black men gets killed by pigs, as though that completely justifies his murder.
I'd be interested in what was in her system for her to not recognize her own home. Why would you think your key just stopped working, instead of realizing you're at the wrong apartment. It's not like the complex is a bunch of doors with no numbers..each apartment has a number to you know tell you which one is yours.
That was amazing! How is it that a young man from South Africa understands us here in America more than we do? Trevor's is a much needed voice in these crazy times.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Unfortunately I couldn't articulate my thoughts with the same level of vernacular ability as the host. Thank you Trevor for putting it so eloquently and comprehensive
Do y'all remember that white lady that aggressively harrassed those black folks for having a cookout and when the cops showed up she started crying so they could divert to her?? That's the magic of white woman tears.
While I'm happy that the jury actually convicted her, which was sadly not a sure thing despite the evidence, she was given an absurdly light sentence. If a black man had walked into Amber Guyger's apartment, shot and killed her, and used "I thought it was my apartment" as a defense, he would have been given the death penalty.
Not Even close to the same thing. What if a black woman cop walked into a white guys apartment, killed him and used what (from what I've heard about the circumstances) could be a believable excuse given more details? I assure you it would be about the same sentence. It's the female vs big strong guy aspect of it more than anything. This video goes into almost no detail about the case and is quite a stretch. Always seems to be about race with this guy.
Black, white, other, etc. If you kill someone in their own home, THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW!!! That, like everything else should be equal.
Her being able to use the castle defense is ridiculous to begin with. She wasn't being blocked in the apartment by him,all she had to do to save herself even if she did feel threatened was take 3 steps backwards and leave (even if it had been her place). She was not on duty and had no right to order anyone to do anything.
yeah. i find it inspiring how he speaks with such objective wisdom and logic when looking at issues like this. It'd be nice if politicians could think like this!
If I walked into my house (but really it wasn’t my house) and saw a man of any color sitting on “my” couch, I can only imagine that my first instinct would be to scream and run. I would call the police from the street/sidewalk then I could be told I am an idiot and it wasn’t my house but everyone would be alive! I am not or ever have been a police officer but I am licensed and trained to carry a gun, concealed or not. But if I have the option to flee and call the police that is what I am doing. Who shoots someone in the heart while they sit on a couch eating ? She was the one by the door with a clear chance to flee. The castle doctrine shouldn’t apply because she wasn’t home. It doesn’t matter if she said she thought she was! Now anyone can use that defense and reference this case. ‘I was sleep walking into wal mart and shot a cashier because I thought I was home and I have the right to protect my home’ WTH how about ‘I got drunk and went to my exes house but thought it was my house and I shot him and his new girl because I though i was home!’ Oh Lord - the can of worms this dumbass judge opened up!
The judge isn't responsible for the way the lawyers argued the case. Defense attorneys point to castle laws, and stand your ground laws in these trials and try to warp them to cover the actions of their clients. They've been using them that way long before this trial came along, and since the defense lost with a unanimous jury conviction, I don't think many defense lawyers will use this trial as precedent in future trials. I think what you said about being a licensed gun owner but choosing to flee is really interesting though. Most gun owners I know tend to brag about what awful fate awaits any hypothetical intruders that would dare to enter their home. They often say stuff like 'I ain't going nowhere. I'm dropping his expletive.' I've always thought this case was more about a trigger happy cop who lacked a realistic view and value for life than just a racist white cop. I've always felt that Botham would have still been murdered had he been a white man and this chick had walked through his door.
@@frattruck3382 "The judge isn't responsible for the way the lawyers argued the case. " Lawyers don't have free reign to say whatever they want to the jury. The judge decides whether the jury can hear certain types of arguments, depending on what other implications it has on the case, to try to present it with minimal prejudice. This is their most important part of the job in a jury trial. For example, the judge could have disallowed the lawyers to present this law pertaining to specific scenarios of people shooting while in their own home (this being a key factor), based on the fact that she....was actually in his house, and not her own....ya know?
Neon Bond, You still must have the complexion for protection and most likely a black person has to be on the losing end for that "I thought I ... was in my house" lie to work. You won't see black or white folks getting away killing unarmed white folks in their living room or anywhere else using that lie, oops I mean excuse. DL Hugely had already made the claim years before Amber Guyger murdered Bothem in his home with no remorse, until she was facing up to 99years, which most people with a clue knew she'd never get. " The worse place a black person can be is in a white person's imagination" DL Hughley
@@frattruck3382 youre probably right, BUUUT, if youve lived in an apartment complex, you know that you would at least slightly recognize the person who stays under you. The idea that this was not premeditated is simply hogwash. There are apartment numbers posted. They shoulda threw this bitch UNDER the fucking jail and come check on her in 10 years.
While I agree with everything Trevor says here, the real difference in this case is not only the race difference, but also the profession of the murderer. I think the fact that she was a police officer at the time of the murder, is ultimately what reduced her sentence. As a white male firefighter, I am also one of those that believe the sentence was way too lenient. Mistake or not, she still took an innocent man's life, and I believe the sentence provided to her, should reflect that.
I think one factor people are not ask adknowleding is that an officer if they truly thought it was there home is going to react faster for fear it is someone there for retaliation. Not saying this is right, or that the sentence I'd right. But I can understand a cop shooting before asking questions if they truly thought it was their home.
She should have stepped into the hallway and called for back up, she was trained? She should have known to do that, she walked in on him, even if he had been in her apartment, she didn't need deadly force in that situation. Seems like cops are a bit too trigger happy these days, being a cop doesn't give a person carte blanche to kill.
For me, the reaction was kinda different, I got angry seeing that scene, but not because she didn't deserve a hug or whatever, but because, even if Botham Jean was half as good a person as his brother seems to be, look at who we lost.
Forget skin color man. For Christ sake. The point of the kid doing what he did and saying what he said was for Christ... The Love of God. Tbh he exposed most of America's heart fr fr. This country is madd divided because of people like you and others who can't see pass skin color.
"Caps or white people", just another example of white people getting away with murder. because I don't believe if it was a black police officer who killed his white neighbor in their own house would receive 10 years of prison time. Just the image of black killing white carry the mandatory sentence of life in prison.
MLG Prussian another white person in their feelings because more and more people are noticing the obvious white Privilege. This guy said a black dude got 2 years a while ago for shooting another while on the ground. Jejejejeje nobody believe you, send me the link to the story, lmfao. this doesn’t even sound like something that would happen in America, to the so call black man. unless you find out that the story was the other person who end up getting shot on the ground was the initial attacker and as self defense this so call black person who got two years in jail was protected himself and sill end up getting 2 years in jail. That sound more believable in this racist White supremacy country.
@@QQhermano Yeah his story seems fishy AF. Even if it was legit, there are thousands more stories of black people getting fucked over because of their skin color and white people getting away with shit just because we are white.
I won't be surprised if these murderers are never found. I wonder if it's an intimidation tactic for the future saying "this is what happens to people who testifies against white people/cops" (if you're POC) :/
@Africandiasporanewschannel spoke to the female witness who videotaped it. She also has received death threats & they got her fired from her professional career. She has a go fund me as well
I pause my movie just to watch your behind the scenes. I love how cleverly he puts our thoughts and emotions into context. It's so well rounded and thought of.
Gives me chills too ! How can this be he home of the brave or the land of the free with this racism ? The victims family are really wonderful people I love them ! This horrid cop can be executed and it would not be a loss but the loss of the victim is huge as he was a very loving person
so when a burglar is cought robbing your house he just has to say: I thought, this is my house" and then he gets free ?? ( 5 years for murder means that every other crime is going to be sentenced as "not guilty") the judge has no right to hug a criminal !! JUdges have to be impartial !! That's their job !!
I surely dont want any cop to "accidentally" come into my home, shoot me and claim he/she thought it was their home. Very unfair to the victim. Trevor makes a great point in the end, we should all be treated with compassion like she was, but we can't forget that some crooked cops can use this same type of reasoning to commit more crimes in the future and learn on this verdict as past practice of the justice system.
@@ytjoekim That's not what I said. She could've been demon possessed for all I know. What I am saying is that it is still very unfair for the victim to not have a say in any of this. How do we know if the victim tried to let her know that she was mistaken and that it was truly his apartment? But then she fired her gun anyway. We do not know what went down, because we only have her word and not his = unfairness. Would you like for this event to happen again? Even anywhere in the world? I'm sure you dont.
@@kiyoponnn no thats exactly what im saying. Either on purpose or lack of training. But i dont think her killing him had to do with him being black. And just because she gets a bigger punishment, someone isnt going to go. Ok let me use that same excuse because she ONLY got 10 years in prison. 10 years in jail to ANYONE is a lot for them to imagine being locked up in a jail cell for that long. What im saying is this 10 year senrence is plently en9ugh for people to not want to use this same "excuse" amber did
@@ytjoekim But she'll be eligible for parole after 5 years, so it might not even be 10 years. And there are plenty of innocent people who have longer jail sentences
I don’t know how the Jeans were able to deal with their 18 year old embracing the murderer of his brother. I feel so terribly for the mother and father.
Not to mention him publicly stating how he wished she didn't have to do any jail time for killing his brother. When we got home, I would have kicked his crazy ass out. Maybe he could have lived with the cops family.
You assume all black people have the same life experiences. These people are not African American. They are St. Lucians (immigrants) who do not have the same generational baggage as those born here. He doesn't see the world as you do, but more than anything, we should not get to have a say in how someone chooses to grieve. Talk about the case and you can even tackle the judge's choice to hug her because this was not her brother, son, cousin or friend. But you leave that man's brother to do whatever TF he wants to do. It was HIS loss. We just got an invitation to see it.
i love these types of talks. trevor is hilarious and uses humor to perfectly deal with some of the bizarre things going on in our country. videos like this, though, where he is just genuinely expressing his take on the heaviness of a subject, are so grounding to watch.
I don't know how scared she was of this so called intruder sitting in front of the TV in house clothes eating ice cream. Also she knew him, had history with him and so she knew he lived upstairs.... This is completely wild...
olu Ave just google it. She filled several noise complaints against him about his music but it never saw the light of day in court for reasons that are unknown at the moment
@@oluave2211 they read text that she was sending him that had racial slur in them. There are also picture of them together. I'm not sure if they dated but they knew each other.
It was a well executed assassination. Which leads me to believe it was either the cops, some ex-military relative of Guyger or ...them. Possibly to aggravate a race war...
I've gotta say, I love these sincere moments with Trevor Noah. I wish more people would tune in to this kind of dialogue. I can see why Jon Stewart believed in you.
Well said, Mr. Noah. I found it interesting how dim the lights were in the studio audience, seemingly, as an aid to keep them calm. Very smart to do while speaking on such a “complicated” as you said, topics
There's so much wrong with this. First, the right to fire a gun in your own house REGARDLESS of the circumstances. Second, allowing that kind of self-defense defence when you're NOT in your own house. Third, allowing that awful and implausible excuse for a trained police officer, a so-called professional. Even without being trained you must be extremely intoxicated to mistake the house of somebody else for your own. Fourth, how did she get in there? Fifth, the non-threatening circumstances under which he was shot. Sixth, the witness being killed almost immediately after trial - despite her mild sentence. Taken everything into account it takes an astonishing level of naivety or bias to accept this made up story. This stinks in so many ways that it's not a stretch to think there's plenty of people having dirt on them. Without knowing the details but are any of these illogical things addressed during the trial? The murder of the witness calls for a thorough investigation into everything (including the judge in this trial) AND a new trial of this woman. Shameful, once again As a white man I admire the strength of the black community after countless of cruel injustices. Hopefully one day we all can live not only in peace but in a world that at least at a basic level deserves the label of fair and just. It's overdue that people are being held accountable for their actions, not by their skin color. I'm sick of it!
Definitely a lot of weirdness. If you go with the positive, she was out of it and this is like trying to open someone else's car when you're running on autopilot after a late shift. I can't picture being in someone else's home and not knowing it, but I don't pull 36 hours shifts either.
@@scorpionjs It was a 13 hour day. I'm sorry, I put that in on a regular basis, 60+ hours a week, never have I've ever walked into the wrong apartment, got on the wrong public transit train, jumped into the wrong uber/lyft. It takes a whole level of entitlement to try your key have it blink red, somehow have the door open, smell weed and still think I'm in the right place and then within seconds shoot a man dead, without attempting any level of resuscitation beyond a "sternum rub" while the possible life saving elements were in my backpack. Nope, I'm definitely going to text the guy I'm cheating with that "I need you, hurry, I fucked up."
Frank Forster Your comment exposes how stupid (ordinary) human beings are, because most people didn't think about these things. We are basically a minority in this world, I mean people like you and me who are smarter than the others
Because people will always focus on race, money, criminal pasts, religion, or sexual orientation. We are a species that thrives on hate and misery. Hell, the comments on this video mostly feature arguments that the violence should be continued into a race war while using homophobic slurs to instigate the hate
This is so pathetic! It’s so hard to imagine a woman walks in another man’s house and shoots him? They were neighbours so she obviously knew him. He was sitting and eating a damn ice cream, she didn’t have to use her gun. This is so wrong. And then they tried to find grounds to justify it, but couldn’t find anything against him. How is this even okay? She really doesn’t need any forgiveness, she has a background of being a racist. Sometimes people deserve the consequences of what they do. I think it’s unpopular opinion that he wouldn’t be shot if he wasn’t black! Sad.
She's out in 5 years, with good behavior. Won't be surprised if she's out sooner than that. They already murdered the neighbor who testified AGAINST her. Of course, the brother forgave her. Probably was intimated with his own life to convince for her to get the least amount of time.
if she ws drunk i could even in the "slightiest" try to understand ... but to shoot him!? did she even asked who is is while pointing a gun at him? why she didn't followed the cop protocol and cal backup! why she didn't even tried to talk! yet on the same side we have a bunch of histories where people kill someone by accident and get life in prison ...while that kid playing wrestling with her cousin , they put him in jail FOR LIFE...
What does his history with weed have anything to do with him minding his own business in HIS house and then getting shot?!?!
White media trying to smear his name. Like, does that justify his murder? Fuck America
Absolutely. But when a cop murders a civilian, law enforcement always paints the victim as a bad guy so that the cop gets off. If you've ever gotten a traffic ticket you're painted as some kind of criminal mastermind who deserved getting killed.
Because he was otherwise a completely upstanding member of society and his community. An incredible young man that just liked to partake of something less harmful than alcohol. But because it's currently illegal in Texas outside of for medical purposes, it's the only thing they can say was wrong about him.
But everyone knows that it wasn't actually wrong, so it prompted a huge backlash last month. Plus, it was only found in his apartment after a search (which wasn't really necessary), so Amber could never have known that he had it - thus it couldn't have been relevant to the crime.
Michelle Tran
White supremacy act to justify the murder.
...in his appartment, eating ice cream.
For those who don’t know...a neighbor named Joshua Brown, who was the key witness who got Guyger convicted, was found murdered Friday Oct 4 shortly after the trial. He was 28 years old.
He was shot 1 in the mouth and another in the chest. If someone shoots at the mouth, it's to show that the guy was a snitch and this is what happens to snitches...This is too crazy, how do you Americans live with this?
Edit: This was a tweet by Lee Meritt, Judge Clay Jenkins tweeted said it's thigh and back. Several witnesses have some differences of back and buttocks. Police confirmation from 3 hours ago, only said LOWER BODY. Apologies for the misinformation.
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So was this a gang member or a dirty cop trying to send a message?
@@kronasmotivationaldrink8342 betting cop
Yes and already they are trying to say it was gang/drug affiliated. It was a gang alright but not a street gang.
Black woman in her own home fired off warning shot while being abused and assaulted to protect herself, once again actually in her own home, got 20 years. #FACTS. Her true crime. She wasn't an Amber.
GFlury4 the sadness is that stuff like these happen all the time. We need jautice
They twisted her story to make it seem she was in fear for her life. Instead, the prosecutor won the argument that she shot the gun in anger. It is ridiculous. There is a petition for her and other black men and women who are in jail for similar reasons. I don't know why I
can't add the link.
And people this justice was served. Its pathetic.
Hey now, don't throw all of us under the bus because of one idiot, lol. I don't want to be compared to this monster. She deserves way more than 10 years; she straight murdered Botham Jean.
Ashtarte Not throwing you under the bus Ash but these white thinking judges without empathy for all, which are put in place by other 'white only' thinkers are a fundamental problem. Another Kavanaugh moment..of course her life will never be the same but there are black kids tried and sentenced like adults because the judges lack the empathy for them which they do have for Amber.. these kids will never hug their family in freedom again
Trevor honestly has a strong skill at helping people navigate complex emotions. Kudos to you, sir.
So well and so succinctly put!
@RONI He's great, isn't he? But he didn't exactly apply for the job as I understand it. He has a video clip on TH-cam somewhere where he talks about shopping somewhere and his phone rings and it's Jon Stewart asking him if he's interested in interviewing to host the Daily Show and he thought the guy was trolling him so he hung up!
It's hilarious. I recommend searching it out.
Sometimes we all need an explanation specialist.
Very insightful
I love how genuine this is. It’s so different from the scripted part of the show
Is this unscripted?
@@theunholysmirk yes
@@theunholysmirk yes dear
Trevor is sharp as a tack
If you think this is unscripted, the joke is on you.
Trevors mother deserves all the praise. And his grandmother and anybody else who raised him.
Mela, nice thought but it definitely robs Trevor of some credit.
Travis Allgeier If you think this comment robs Trevor of credit than idk what to tell you. Lol.
Seriously. Even Trevor gives him mother and grandmother tons of credit, you’ll have to watch his Netflix video to see that. He’s humble as hell, and I love that about him. # Blessed.
His mom should get all the praise and I don't think Trevor would disagree with you.
How about his father
Between the Scenes really showcases Trevor's empathy and him speaking his heart out to issues like these.
He is truly following the good tradition of Jon Stewart even here.
AND This dialogue is well appreciated‼️
He’s listening like us all. Commenting of
Who’s in with who’s commonalities was acute.
But what is it we need?
A bit of shade, a cool breeze on a hot day, with frosty drink in one hand?
I’ll explain it; 🙏🏾 Monocultures are impossible to maintain over time, 🙏🏾
They simply burn 🔥themselves and their environments🔥out of existence
Forgiveness is one thing, Justice is clearly another.
Say that AGAIN
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@ricky roach I just wish the people tired of being persecuted and the POTUS holding a bible in front of a desecrated church while smoke gassing peaceful protestors in the name of God out the way would just understand that him needing that photo op with a upside down bible is all love and what they need in a time of pain and hurt after the murder of another innocent.
If the roles were reversed where he walked in her apartment and shot her dead. Does anybody honestly believe he would only get 5 to 10 years?
He would never see freedom again and would now be appealing his death sentence.
He would have been shot when cops arrived. All you will hear from the press will be a black man broke in and shot a white female neighbor one floor below his apartment. After 3-hr. standoff with the police, the suspect was gunned down by the police. Motive unknown. Case closed.
25 to life....that would have been fair.
Like thy say in my family: Hell No!!!
My thoughts exactly. And he would easily have served 2 life sentences and the death penalty, if it were him doing the shooting.
The brother can hug her, that’s his right and his way of acceptance and forgiveness. The judge is a whole other thing, that was unacceptable
My opinion too.
They are both incredibly stupid
The judge should be disbarred for that, regardless of the verdict. She's a politically-instigated idiot.
The brothers forgiveness was for his own heart. Some people have to forgive or else hate will eat them alive. But the fact that the justice system failed THIS BADLY makes me sick to my stomach.
I just don’t like how the judge was treating her like she was the victim smh
There's something really wrong with this world when a talk show host on "comedy" central makes more sense than most people especially people who are supposed to be in a position of power.
Or most news shows
Exactly my thoughts. So sad!
Power corrupts. Especially here in America.
Lol you are so blind. Trevor Noah is in a position of power and he is brainwashing all of u. Making sure that nobody can see people as individuals instead of by their skin color. I agree she should serve 10yrs at least and that all drugs should be legal. Check out libertarians like Ron Paul. I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how much shit he says about republicans
@@actualideas8078 , stfu!!!
*"You would hope that same level of compassion and empathy would be applied to black people."*
Yesss
What about Asians? What about Latinos? What about indigenous people? Why only to black? Dont you think it would be rascist to exclude others? It would be wrong in the same way as having a slogan "Black lives matter." No, "ALL and EVERY life matters!" Thats the correct slogan, yet I dont see anyone in America walking with such a billboard slogan. That could only mean that everyone is a rascist there.
@@russells9590 the whataboutisms don't really work here. There's a centuries old and continuing stigmatisation that comes with having darker skin or more melanin. Indeed it's not unusual to see some Asians and Latinos look down on Black folk. Hell, India till this day has an awful caste system - you'll rarely find dark skinned lead actors in Bollywood!!
@AL CAPPS I'm not saying the awful struggles other ethnicities have to face are nonexistent.
My point was how the colour of Black skin in particular became a stigma by Western societies, after a legacy of slavery and segregation.
@@michaelotis223 -- Amazing you had to explain that.
So why is no one talking about how her first reaction was to draw and fire her gun, and not to ask the very simple and very important question of "What are you doing in my apartment?"
"Ma'am this is my apartment , yours is right over there"
"Oh that's right, my bad lol"... The whole incident would have been avoided if she had only bothered to see the man in front of her as another human being and not as some monster criminal.
Edit: Thanks for all of the up votes!
Because in 'Murica nobody talks if they can shoot somebody. Seriously though if he'd be a real intruder he'd most likely had a weapon and she'd be dead now.
Shoot first ask questions later
No, for gun safety and responsible gun ownership you "know your target" and the guy was just hanging out in his apartment. I doubt he even had a threatening or suspicious stance. She shot him because he was black and she was conditioned to see a black man as a threat.
@swimingbird88 she could have left! She could have stepped out and called the police. Police call for backup all the time.
That was one of the key points in the trial that she was able to leave. She could have left the apartment and if she had nobody would have died. Step out, call the police or backup or whatever and then they arrive at her actual apartment or they defuse the situation.
She was not in a situation where her only recourse was deadly force. She had other options and many. She chose to kill him.
I am editing because Bitch wasn't drunk. I was wrong, I was remembering when this happened and news stated she was intoxicated although at trial, she was not intoxicated but sexting and distracted. Maybe That wouldn't have been how it went down. He might still would have died. This is why I hate alcohol, easy access to guns, and dumb humans with NO Self Control!
There’s a lot of disturbing things about this story, many of which Trevor brought up.
However, from my non-American perspective, the thing that has struck me about this story is the repeated comments from American media of how “you should feel safe to not get shot in your own home”. Because, really, that’s how low your bar is now? Shouldn’t you be able to feel safe to not get shot REGARDLESS of where you are, REGARDLESS of the colour of your skin? Shouldn’t that be considered the bare minimum?
You shouldn’t be upset that a black man got shot in his home by a white, off-duty police woman; you should get upset that a black man was shot at all. The fact that the only place one should expect to feel safe is in your own home is a sad indictment of American society.
History Eraser Button prove it detective
The bar is low man, REAL low.
MLG Prussian here is the proof www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/05/us/botham-jean-neighbor-killed/index.html
Agreed
It’s not that easy though. There is a clear racism thing here. That’s why things are the way they are.
I'm thinking if he was the one who came home and shot her thinking it was his house. What would the verdict have been
Not the same one, that's for sure. He would have not gotten the benefit of the doubt.
Texas has the death sentence. Him being a man would automatically qualify him. Women are given far smaller sentences for the same crimes.
@@zinjanthropus322 Women only getting 0,77 years for every year a man makes smh
it's crazy that they try to portrait her as the victim when she was the one killing a man is his own house while eating ice cream watching TV SMH
@@cesarnsanchez Who is doing that?
In Texas, 10 years for walking in to someone’s apartment & killing him?
Again, this happened in Texas, where most people get death penalty for the same crime, especially if brown or black
You're full of shit on that last bit. Show me the data that supports your racist idea that black and brown people are out to death more often than white people in Texas. You can't, because that data doesn't exist.
@@tenacious645 the fact that this white chic got ten years should be proof enough. Tell me about just one black person who committed murder and got a similar sentence.
@@tenacious645 No you're full of shit. You can say stupid stuff with a straight face, but You don't even believe what you write.
You know what I wonder; If that man had shot and killed her ass for entering his home unannounced, how much time would these fools have tried to give him. After all, Everybody has a right to protect their home. Nobody has to wait for you to shoot first, because that could be the killshot.
tenacious645
Show you the data?
Why should I invest my time for you, stop being lazy, open your eyes, and do some work yourself if you are so interested to know.....
Trevor's a THOUGHTFUL GUY, we need more of that...
I've never heard any person so well interpreting the real thing like this before ❤️
Pritam Roy because Trevor tries his best to view things in a perspective intellectual/compasionate angle. having detached himself from the topic yet still inciting details with certain consideration of both side and all corners of the story.
Pritam Roy BS! Criminals no matter the color, or police should serve time and get punishment- weakening law will only cause more people not to abide by the laws!
@@adrianejackson5118 he didn't say weaken the law.. He said you should still be punished the same but the sympathy must be shown to all people not just white women
This is why I love Trevor. I didnt know where my anger was coming from because I too believe in forgiveness. I was so upset and outraged because my brothers and sister dont get the same empathy these white folks get. You explained my heartache and anger Trevor. Now I'm just crying😢😢😢
Yes! He hit it right! I was so upset and didn't know why! Now I know! That black boy needs to be hugged too. That black woman needs a hug and a lighter sentence too! We all need the same love and compassion that this ignorant racist was shown!
She’ll probably only serve 5 or less. Smh
@@nancymesek she has no possibility for parole.
You said what I was thinking. I saw the hug as a child needing to forgive a murderer before it ate his soul, but also someone needing a hug himself. It was a natural and compassionate move. I marvel at his maturity
@@giovannalively Uh, source? I've been hearing all over that she can get out in 5 years with parole on good behavior.
Trevor is a funny guy, but he's also very intelligent and compassionate. Love this dude
When Keisha was on drugs she was called a crackhead, but when Becky is on drugs it’s called the opioid epidemic
Agree 100% media is brainwashing us like that for very long time
Desmond Beats wtf man I’m a friendly Muslim
Abbas Salman in your bible it says strike off the heads off any that does not convert to Islam...look it up people it actually says that, they are also aloud to marry child’s brides but I guess that’s friendly too
Terraj well muslim isn’t a race dumbass but ok
Desmond Beats what a second how the fuck you just assumed I believe in that. What wrong man there is 1.8 B Muslims do you think all of them think the same
Sadly the neighbor that testified against the cop received a harsher sentence than she did.
What are you referring to? I didn't read anything about the neighbor.
@@Rainy-In-The-Desert he was killed
Gosh, I wonder who could have done this thing? It's a mystery to everyone...
@@Rainy-In-The-Desert the neighbor was a victim of gang violence. He was murdered by the Blue Shield Gang.
@@j.a.alexander1867 How awful 😭 thank you for responding
Thinking about this story made me so angry at the systemic injustices in this country. I was angry at the fact that before the trial I already expected a lenient sentence for the murderer, even though we all know it'd be different if the roles were reversed.
I'm very grateful to Trevor for being able to talk about this so articulately and powerfully, yet reminding me to treat human beings with respect and compassion. There's a lot of work to be done, and we should be angry, but let's not lose ourselves, too.
John Chessant did you know a witness that testified against the cop, who lived in the building, was shot dead 10 days after the verdict?
John Chessant compassion is asymmetric in USA, black ppl hug and forgive, cops “compassion i that a new brand for toilet paper?
@@mikeshardly this situation seem suspicious as well as coincidental in the timing. We don't have all the facts but when you're dealing with the trial of a cop implicated in a murder that brings doubt.
Big difference between a person who came to kill somebody and one who killed in defense of their well being. In most states, she would have never been given a murder charge, but a lesser, manslaughter, or a reckless manslaughter charge.
@swimingbird88 don't want to be pessimistic but until the system is freed from corruption and greed it will never change. Value of the dollar speaks volume in todays society, sadly.
When’s the last time a white person gave a black person a hug after they killed their kin? Oh, wait, I forgot, that never happens.
AND no one can argue that they've ever seen it twice‼
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Thank You
Actually it has. I saw it on one pf those victims program shows
@@jackieburns5257 program?
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Paid ppl
@@Mckriscatun one of those about victims and prosecuted coming together. Not uncommon for some to forgive. Rae Carruth was forgiven byv the murdered girls mom. Rhianna forgave Chris
Etc.
Trayvon Martin . . .news media said he had smoked weed (maybe days prior). Had nothing to do with anything related to his murder. - Great summation. The inequality is simply overwhelming.
Yes, that still breaks my heart to this day.
Spot on. Nobody could miss who and what they attempted to portray that young man as. Totally disgusting and disgraceful.
What was the first leak (accident my ass) that was leaked the suspects name which only the cops knew for 3 days, or the accidental leak that Bothem had weed in his apartment? Of course to try to tarnish his image and justify his life wasn't worth much. so the cop killing of another unarmed black person (this time in "his" own home) that the judge allowed the murdering cop to use "his" castle defense since it was "his" home. The boldness and arrogance is just a silent message. And that is yeah, we all know what's going on, but what are you gonna do about it? And really what can be done about it when the police are policing the police?
I didn't see her crying because she murdered an innocent man sitting on his couch.
I saw a cop crying because she was going to jail.
Just saying.
That statement right there shows how bias can effect perception. I'm not saying you're wrong but the truth is that no one actually knows what she is thinking, but some of us will look at her through the lens of past experiences and constructs, and as a result, see her as someone grappling with her guilt while others will see her through the lens of past experiences and constructs, and as a result, see her as someone fearing jail.
@@TheMangomelon789 True.
Yeah but I'm sure she did a lot of laughing later, when she got a dose of reality. "I live in the US, I'm white and a cop that killed a black guy in cold blood; what the hell was I worried for? The guy's brother didn't even want me to go to jail. And I got hugged by the judge on top of that. So long suckers. Hahaha, hahaha, hahahaha.
@@jamesorsby7553 Even the fact that the justice system gave her the oppertunity to have the last laugh, irrespective of whether she chose to or not ( I mean, she might even get a decent job after getting out, but still), is a disgrace to the system itself.
@@curious_one1156 I agree wholeheartedly. There needs to be a complete and total transformation of the justice system, but I guess if it hasn't happened in all this time , it probably never will. Smh
And one of the witnesses who testified - Botham’s neighbor - was recently shot dead. Yes, he was black too
Something about that seems shadey.
Daniel Caceres I read about that today!! He was the KEY witness in the case
On top of that they give her 10 year witch mean she will be out in lest then 5 for good behavior !!!!! when the black lady that fired a warning shot gets i thank 20 to life!!! of course she was Black!!!! no Justice for us Black.
Please, lets not make this a conspiracy. It could've easily been coincidence as it could be someone retaliating for Guyger.
Thats because he heard what happened. That lady knew that man. He overheard their conversation. Its pretty fucked up.
Can't imagine she got just 10 years, she should have gotten life in prison.
Facts
I agree
@NonyaBusiness! for 2nd degree ? which should have been manslaughter by the letter of the law? sorry but you dont get 25 to life for that
Moses S Tucker Jr
Well, she's white, what can you expect!
The 10 years, or actually 5 years, is a what the life of Botham Jean is worth.
@NonyaBusiness! Fact is she will not do 5 years after she appeals and is let out within 5 or 6 months.
This is the most well balanced take I have seen on the issue. These are how people should analyse situations, carefully, Logically.
@AhmedAay truth
Not really, he just spent the entire video saying how he understands why people are outraged while not doing so for the accused. It may seem balanced to you, but for anyone coming from the other point of view, their points aren't even acknowledged in this video.
If she was black... no hugs, no love, just life in prison. Smh
How do you know?
So are you saying blacks love whites, but hate blacks?
But maybe THAT is the problem. Not the mercy, the lash thereof.
That's racist
I think we all know that by now 🙄
I'm a middle aged white woman, I can honestly say, her race played a huge part in the sentencing. If she were a woman of a color, 50 years, if she were a man of color, they would have maxed his sentence!! Our judicial system is out of control and completely biased. I've sat in a courtroom in my 20s and watched my white ex get probation, while his black co-defendant got 2 years.
***I want to note, my ex had a long criminal history starting at age 10. This was his friend's first offense. Color matters!! Believe it folks. The system is 100% rigged!!!
Jennifer Gridley -Not her race persay. If she had mousey brown hair and wore a size 18 she would have gotten a longer sentence. Call it what is....the prissy ass syndrome!!
@zonescat I remember that! Sad! They really do treat anyone that is not white different.
I'm white and I dont believe this is real sounds like everyone gets what they deserve in different situations y all gotta stop blaming everything on race a better lawyer is usually the difference between sentences the judge was a black woman is she racist the jurors are mixed races are they all racist and easier on her because she is white get real dingdongs
I dont like your kind for the EVIL SHIT YA DID AND YA STILL DOING IT man when the time come for PUNISHMENT cause the KING IS COMING and man.... Watch.
@@Ericmcdonkey that's why he said "white woman tears"...
yeahh she felt guilty
yah she admitted she do wrong
but another person there will not receive the same treaty/compassion as her...
I trully admire her brother for forgiving her...
not so much the judge for breaking Decorum but still is understandable...
but you got so much cases of people of color getting so much worse for so much less... that you can't deny that still there is a 2 weight system...
This sets a really bad precedent, letting anyone use the "I thought it was my house" defense
Don't worry. Everyone won't be able to use that card.
She should've known that wasn't her crib once she put the key in the lock and that bitch didn't turn.
It does, but I do actually think that in specific cases where that "excuse" is believable it should be taken into consideration during sentencing (but NOT convicting).
Why? Because situational awareness is hampered in distress.
People say "didn't she recognize the furniture??" well no not necessarily.
Do you seriously think that if you walked into your house and found an intruder you would check the furniture surrounding you? NO, you wouldn't. You would see the potential threat because that is just how human nature is.
And given that she was a police officer that makes this even more convoluted, because police SHOULD have training to overcome this natural human response to situational awareness reduction, but sadly they often dont.
Exactly. That is the biggest danger. The issue is that this will only be a defense white people can use.
@@paytcpaythecreator7264 I'm not going to read that wall of text but if it contains evidence not presented to me in the video then yes things may change. When I said to take it into consideration, ya know, like compare it with the other facts of the case
In HIS OWN HOUSE, eating ice cream and watching TV. She deserved more time. She had supposedly been trained to observe and make judgements. Rethink the training!
I believe that our country policing system and training need to be investigated.
He was shot because of her police training. A normal person accesses the situation before pulling out a gun and killing somebody. Cops in the USA are taught (with popup targets) to shoot to kill first and access the situation after the person is dead. The motto of US law enforcement is "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.".
What? Even if it was her house and he had been intruding, if she finds him eating ice cream and watching tv, how would she be within her rights to shoot him?, ask him what he was doing there or even chase him out, but pull a gun on an unarmed man seems excessive regardless of the where and when
@TooMuchDramaInTheMilkyWay GalaxyThe excessive target practice is physiological training. It's to desensitize cops so they will kill people instantly on instinct.
BUT THEY FOUND MARIJUANA THERE HE’S CLEARLY A HARDENED CRIMINAL
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I was in court once, and this hispanic man got 20 to life for having a ziplock bag full of weed. Sometimes I don’t understand the American justice system
It's going to remain the same if you, the people who see the wrong, the injustice, the double standard, don't demand for more..simply equality.
Unfortunately our justice system has been twisted to serve those with money, police serve/protect property owners and not communities, not lives.
@@lks2144 They made Trump the president,
So something is really wrong with Americans nowadays
American is ran by satan siblings. Yahawa says the world is giving to the wicked. America is babylon. I was shock to see people in other country are starting to see how evil America is.
Some days I just want to have Trevor just talk about stuff. Like, there's no need for a fully produced show. Just Trevor, a mic and a topic.
Charlie Criscola he has a podcast
Lol he has a team of writers
Trevor is a simple-minded racist, propaganda machine that should GTFO TV
Zach Donahue ummm huh?
Charlie Criscola agreed!
I’m in tears right now and the only thing I can think of is “these tears don’t matter.” I will have to teach my daughter and son this one day and this hurts so much. I think he said it perfectly. We should be looked at with the same compassion. Looked at as a human being and not a life that should be thrown away. But we’re not 😢😢😢
I'd happily hug her & let her know I've sincerely forgiven her...right after she's sentenced to life imprisonment (or the death penalty)
“She shot him buuuuuutttt he did smoke weed a couple times”
😒 the double standard is sickening
keelyman ja asf
You know in the trial it was found she was denied a job for a failed polygraph where she smoked weed
In a time where people start to realize that weed isn't half as bad as it was made to appear and legislation around the world slowly starts to follow up on that no less.
@keelyman ...yup, it's character assassination.
Why there needs to be a national push for the end to federal marijuana prohibition. It hasn't worked, loss of tax revenue and has exacerbated racial discrepancies in the justice system.
I actually really like when Trevor is more serious
I do too. Watching when he's being inteviewed gives you a taste of how well spoken and intelligent he is.
Love him either way and you're right too......a more serious Trevor demands a listening ear.
I need a balance of both serious and funny from him because most time the news is too much most days.
Fergus McCallum me too
Heavy issues… when he made a Star Wars joke at the start of a clip on mass shooting, I stopped watching for a month…
One time I went home and found a dozen people going through my stach of cash so I got mad and pulled out my gun and demanded they hand it back to me in my bag. I ran out to call the cops only to realize I just robbed a bank. My bad.
Too funny! But very poignant
Let’s not forget that his neighbor was murdered in his apartment. If more Witnesses are murdered, is it still a coincidence?
Shelly Bee yeah her walking into his apartment is no coincidence but carry on
No, wrong. He was killed in the parking lot, apparently during a drug deal.
T Knight drug dealers that drove 400 miles to exchange then shoot the kid in the mouth???? Cmon bruh... y’all didnt really believe that... think...! He was murdered for talking
WOW! Just like when trump's homeboy got locked up and "committed suicide "!! That was just TOO convenient for some people!
Witness was killed in his new place, by 3 black men for drugs. Now is this STILL a race issue? NO, it NEVER was.
Only 10 years while people get the same sentence for the possession of a small amount of weed
Blessed Child blame the republicans for that
Nope, it was actually started by Bill Clinton. Blame the Democrats!
Started by Clinton... please... it's been going on waaay longer than that. Sad but true.
She's out in 5 years, with good behavior.
Won't be surprised if she's out sooner than that. They already murdered the neighbor who testified AGAINST her.
Of course, the brother forgave her. Probably was intimated with his own life to convince for her to get the least amount of time.
@@FF-fd4tm war on drugs was started by Nixon and harsh sentences started with Reagan. Both Republicans. Nice fail.
Trevor has the most well thought out takes I've ever seen, he's honestly amazing.
How does a trained police officer walk into someone else's apartment, thinking that it is their own, and then shoot the person inside!!??
And how did this person even become a police officer in the first place!?
Hobbes Hobbiton there was also a red mat outside his apartment door.. she should’ve known it wasn’t her home even before walking in
Failure of the system. She should never have been a cop.
it's easy...just be born white (or an elitist) in an unjustice society. its smooth⛵ sailing🛥️ for you after that.....🍹🥂🍾
@@mjj1691 The door was also unlocked. That should have been another red flag. Then and there she should have realized it was the wrong apartment, or she should have thought that someone broke into her apartment and never even entered the apartment on her own.
Hobbes Hobbiton How does anynone (if not drunk or high) walks into another person's apartment thinking that its their own?????
Trever Noah is a true leader. I am so thrilled he is in the position that he is in, for all to hear his messages.
Man, this turning the other cheek thing sure is rough when you're dealing with people who would rather take your eye
How do you know that is the case?
Would rather take everything, I didn't know you could get 5 years for murder. How is that even possible
@@smith3949 well, all we have to go off of is history and current events, and neither tell a compelling story to the contrary
Earth how did she have the keys to the wrong apartment again?
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Empathy and compassion are missing in the justice department when it comes to African Americans.
Marky McNasty and that’s exactly how they set it up to be.
Unfortunately. 😰🥵
You can blame that on entire USA. When little brown kids get killed in drone strikes and why this terrorism is never ending war they just say, "casualties of war" or "he'd end up a terrorist too" or "he shouldn't have been there, he was unlucky" etc etc!!
Arkham Assassin either way, it’s still the USA. Police of the world my ass... but now that you think about it how their own polices are back home, you’d understand why they call themselves the world police.. fucking pathetic.
Love how people try to blame the entire USA for one judge. Like how does one court case turn into people like @Arkham Assassin to talking about drone strikes and shit. In my county We’ve had the same black woman as a judge for 10+ years. She is super fair and everyone loves her. Just one judge in Dallas doesn’t reflect the whole damn country jeez
Let me say this again, a key witness was just murdered on Friday. I really hope his story will get the same attention and care that was felt for Amber, considering she’s the one guilty of murder.
Sheree Sipots never
It's not!
I love when Trevor talks about serious things. He is so insightful and intelligent. Thank you Trevor.
If he had confusingly walked into her home, believing it was his, and shot and killed her, would the law have treated them the same? Would the media?
Exactly.
Nope, He would have been treated as some thug trying to do a robbery and in self defense she shot and killed him.
christopher tracy In Texas too! Capital murder.
@@gstar8425
No that's a reasonable argument. The original poster just reversed the circumstances, where they're asking if the sentence would have been as lenient had HE walked in thinking it was HIS house and shot HER in her home. The answer is no, they world have have tried for capital murder.
My question exactly. You must begin to fight against this divide in the system ..police, justice.
I wonder if this is scripted or Trevor is just talking from his heart. The eloquence and narration of his words amazes me. I love this guy!
Why should this be scripted?? I think most people think that way.
Its scripted ofcourse
Behind the scenes arent scripted.
And the original show hes also writing his jokes along with a team.
So either way its coming from his mind.
I love how the first thing out of her mouth was "I'm gonna lose my job." not "Oh my God, I just shot and killed a man. I just ended someone's life." Unbelievable.
I understand the point you are making, but it is part of human nature to focus on the most mundane things in a crisis (ie, someone’s house burning down and their first thought being about some simple chore they were planning on doing). There are certainly things to criticize in how she acted, but initially being incapable of focusing on the true tragedy of the situation is not one.
Have you ever done a thing that is on the side of evil vs good?
She thought the maximum punishment she is gonna get is losing her job and that's all she needed to worry about. If you look at past cop shootings where they shot innocent people, the maximum punishment they got was losing their job. Btw, cops are also trained to be a bit violent and not have emotional reactions on someone's death.
@@thrawncaedusl717 Focusing on mundane things in a crisis is not part of human nature. It is part of an animals nature. If YOU act like so, that doesn't mean that the rest of the world, is like you...
@@e.p.4767
Humans are animals. Especially in fundamental behavioral patterns.
I dont like Judges hugging anyone.
yes thank u
@V J I imagine me standing there and she gives me that book... "Erm, okeeeey and i use that for what now? I killed a person and going to jail for it, so this helps me...how?"
Then the judge would instantly go back to her seat and curses me for beeing a godless person. And that was the story about how a judge shouldnt care about someones personal life.
Officially the trial was over before his brother got on the stand. The jury was gone. Everyone was acting in their individual citizen capacity.
It’s unprofessional for the judge to hug her
It's worse that she gave her a bible.
Absolutely.
Maybe the judge was afraid for her life too
She showed EXTREME bias, which no judge should do!😡 It would be like judge Ito👨🏻⚖ giving O.J. Simpson🏈 a hug!😅 However, the older I get, the better I understand our people. Black folks have been brainwashed to such a COMPLETE degree! It makes me very sad and mad!😡😔No one wants to be hated by the predominant group; to be on the bottom. Please see the "Willy Lynch Document". As a young boy, I remember watching Shirley Temple 📺 👩🏼bossing old Black folks around and, my sisters being presented with blonde Barbie dolls👧🏼 by relatives. MOST of the cartoons, kid shows and, movies I saw as a child, featured a "cute" little blonde girl or, "beautiful" blonde young lady being coddled, catered to, sought after or, rescued. Black Americans are the most despised people on Earth! We serve our country in the millitary, work in our communities as public servants and, even provide "the entertainment"😁☻ 💃🏿🎤🎺🎶🎷🎸for the comfort of "the mainstream" (you know who)! Yet, we are STILL the pararia of humanity. MAN, I just don't know anymore...smh😫😖😔We've done LITERALLY everything a people can do to gain acceptance or, at LEAST be "allowed" to live in peace. There are STILL those of "them" who hate Kappernick for starting the "kneeling thing", and STILL don't understand why he did it. May the good Lord grant the Botham AND Joshua Brown family solace. May He protect "Bunny" (the sista who sent the original footage📱 of 👮🏼♀️after she🔫☠Botham). Her story can be seen on African Diaspora TH-cam channel (formerly "The Advice Show"). I'm curious to see how my comment will haunt me in future; probably loose a job or something!😅 Peace, people! 👨🏾⚕️🏃🏾♂️👨🏿🏫
I'm glad i wasn't the only one bothered by that. The fact that she gave her a bible feels particularly off. What about separation of church and state?
The world really has a shortage of people who have insights like trevor !!!
Saurav Pratap Chhetri The sane Western World has this insight. The USA is the exception
The world does not have a shortage of people who think like Trevor. The difference is Trevor has access to a platform and large enough audience to spread this message. People of color have been saying this for ages.
@@guershondorismond271 I agree.I guess what i am trying to get at it is that we don’t have enough influencers or people in power who have the same level of train of thought as him. I totally agree with you on what you’re saying !
I love how Trevor can put into words so easily what i have such a hard time expressing
She premeditated that murder.
That young man’s apartment was directly above her apartment.
The noise coming from the apartment directly above her apartment got on her nerves.
“She ‘accidentally’ goes to the wrong floor”
“She ‘accidentally’ opens the wrong door🚪
after standing on a mat she she doesn’t own”
ALL burglars need to use that defense🙄
They accidentally went into the wrong house and accidentally killed the homeowner🤨
The sentence is too lenient. That was murder. If this was flipped, the white family would not have been so forgiving. Kudos for the brother he is a bigger man that i would ever be.
The jurors managed to get the verdict right, but felt an eye for an eye punishment was too extreme. An eye for an eye would be the death penalty for fuck sake!
The prosecution wanted 28 years which meant a racist, murderer would be out in 14. How can that be considered too extreme? I don't understand this jury.
Yes exactly he's a bigger man than I would be too...
José Lopez he’s not a bigger man he’s a fool. The woman was not looking for forgiveness and would not have asked if she got off.
Eve O'Neill they wouldn’t have! he/she speaking base on facts & history. The defense had the audacity trying to paint the victim as as a weed smoking unruly bandit with a less than favorable history when he is the one laying 6 feet deep now you think if he was on the other end of that gun taking that white woman’s life her family would’ve been forgiving how naive can you be?
@@eveoneill2767 The simple fact that we are discussing this case is because its uniqueness.
I love these clips when Trevor just talks to the audience.
Ross Hurst his real genius comes out.
And makes people think its about race? Cmon be real. AG didnt get a hug cos she was white... she didnt get that level of compassion because she was white. She got all that love because botham was a loving and forgiving kid.
@@ytjoekim he wasnt talking about the family so much as the general tone around the trial. I love what the brother did. That shows a level of compassion that most people will never reach. But I dont think Trevor was so much criticizing the brother as he was the judge and he was correctly pointing out that young black men would not get that kind of treatment. Imagine if it was a black guy that walked into a white womans apartment "thinking it was his" and shot her. There would be no compassion or forgiveness. It would be outrage. And her sentence was definitely a result of sex and race.
@@rosshurst5630 why does it have to be a young black kid. Just turn it around the same way. If it was a young black kid that went into a wrong apartment and shot someone dead then no, but i think the same would have happened if it was a young white kid. What if it was a black officer that went into the wrong apartment and killed someone. I think he would have had the chance to get the same level of compassion. Dont you think? Dont get me wrong, racism is definitely a problem in this world, but not in every circumstance.
@@ytjoekim so you think the young kid would not have gotten the compassion but a black police officer would have? Yeah I dont necessarily disagree with that. I think being a white female officer was the perfect recipe for Amber to get off easy tho.
This is exactly why I love Trevor Noah: absolutely spot on.
@@vaera975 this called dark humour ..u nonsense.
Trevor’s response is remarkable, he hit the nail on the head. #compassion
She got ten years, eligible for parole in 5 years. In other words she got 5.
And if it had been the other way around, him shooting her, he would probably have gotten the death penalty.
We'll see in 5 years. Murder convicts don't usually get paroled the 1st time they come up.
And the witness got the death penalty...
@@JayJay-xf2jf Yea, isn't that a little weird ?
@@chrise.321 Unless she was a cop
Ah yes, the whole "he had a tiny amount of marijuana in his system" that they do whenever an innocent black men gets killed by pigs, as though that completely justifies his murder.
I'd be interested in what was in her system for her to not recognize her own home. Why would you think your key just stopped working, instead of realizing you're at the wrong apartment. It's not like the complex is a bunch of doors with no numbers..each apartment has a number to you know tell you which one is yours.
Astral huy c That part! 👏🏾👏🏾
it was a tradgedy! so many mistakes!
It's Like, He's Got Weed, He Got What He Had Coming.
@@sugarbearjohnware8462 weed? seriously? how many states is it legal, a minor carry in his own home didnt deserve this
That was amazing! How is it that a young man from South Africa understands us here in America more than we do? Trevor's is a much needed voice in these crazy times.
One of my wishes in life is to just sit with Trevor and hear his take on matters
Same!
I agreed !! When my husband got arrested for Marijuana the court wouldn't allow for him to hold his son for a minute our son was 3 day old
She'll be out 3 -5 years. Meanwhile a Black man gets 45 years for killing a dog.
Black Girl Magic I have no problem with someone getting 45 years for killing a dog but I think she should’ve gotten life
Want ?!
45 years
Nic W What??
The man you're referring to got 6 years for killing a police dog on purpose. The other sentences were for other crimes stacked on top.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Unfortunately I couldn't articulate my thoughts with the same level of vernacular ability as the host. Thank you Trevor for putting it so eloquently and comprehensive
Agree, Thanks for Trevor.
Do y'all remember that white lady that aggressively harrassed those black folks for having a cookout and when the cops showed up she started crying so they could divert to her?? That's the magic of white woman tears.
Barbecue Becky
While I'm happy that the jury actually convicted her, which was sadly not a sure thing despite the evidence, she was given an absurdly light sentence.
If a black man had walked into Amber Guyger's apartment, shot and killed her, and used "I thought it was my apartment" as a defense, he would have been given the death penalty.
At the very least he would be given more that 10 years
Facts!
Not Even close to the same thing. What if a black woman cop walked into a white guys apartment, killed him and used what (from what I've heard about the circumstances) could be a believable excuse given more details? I assure you it would be about the same sentence. It's the female vs big strong guy aspect of it more than anything. This video goes into almost no detail about the case and is quite a stretch. Always seems to be about race with this guy.
Ballsrog if it was a black female cop it would have been exactly the same, pretending otherwise is only convincing yourself.
Black, white, other, etc. If you kill someone in their own home, THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW!!! That, like everything else should be equal.
Her being able to use the castle defense is ridiculous to begin with. She wasn't being blocked in the apartment by him,all she had to do to save herself even if she did feel threatened was take 3 steps backwards and leave (even if it had been her place). She was not on duty and had no right to order anyone to do anything.
Who else thinks Trevor Noah is the best late-night host
I do
He is, by a very far margin. Funny, objective, cute, smart and discerning; all in one
Ahh he isn't there yet. Stephen comes first in my book then trevoh
Nah I prefer John Oliver
He is getting there he has moments, then he has other moments which are not as bright.
You summarized this so well! Bless you
I love this man, he never disappoints me when he is touching delicate issues
yeah. i find it inspiring how he speaks with such objective wisdom and logic when looking at issues like this. It'd be nice if politicians could think like this!
I agree. I'm continually impressed by his insight and opinion. He's extraordinary.
True, he is very intelligent.
I agree with what Trevor said about the empathy
It's not used for other people in actual unfortunate circumstances
If I walked into my house (but really it wasn’t my house) and saw a man of any color sitting on “my” couch, I can only imagine that my first instinct would be to scream and run. I would call the police from the street/sidewalk then I could be told I am an idiot and it wasn’t my house but everyone would be alive! I am not or ever have been a police officer but I am licensed and trained to carry a gun, concealed or not. But if I have the option to flee and call the police that is what I am doing. Who shoots someone in the heart while they sit on a couch eating ? She was the one by the door with a clear chance to flee. The castle doctrine shouldn’t apply because she wasn’t home. It doesn’t matter if she said she thought she was! Now anyone can use that defense and reference this case. ‘I was sleep walking into wal mart and shot a cashier because I thought I was home and I have the right to protect my home’ WTH how about ‘I got drunk and went to my exes house but thought it was my house and I shot him and his new girl because I though i was home!’ Oh Lord - the can of worms this dumbass judge opened up!
@Neena Bond well said! I totally agree!!
The judge isn't responsible for the way the lawyers argued the case. Defense attorneys point to castle laws, and stand your ground laws in these trials and try to warp them to cover the actions of their clients. They've been using them that way long before this trial came along, and since the defense lost with a unanimous jury conviction, I don't think many defense lawyers will use this trial as precedent in future trials. I think what you said about being a licensed gun owner but choosing to flee is really interesting though. Most gun owners I know tend to brag about what awful fate awaits any hypothetical intruders that would dare to enter their home. They often say stuff like 'I ain't going nowhere. I'm dropping his expletive.' I've always thought this case was more about a trigger happy cop who lacked a realistic view and value for life than just a racist white cop. I've always felt that Botham would have still been murdered had he been a white man and this chick had walked through his door.
@@frattruck3382 "The judge isn't responsible for the way the lawyers argued the case. "
Lawyers don't have free reign to say whatever they want to the jury. The judge decides whether the jury can hear certain types of arguments, depending on what other implications it has on the case, to try to present it with minimal prejudice. This is their most important part of the job in a jury trial.
For example, the judge could have disallowed the lawyers to present this law pertaining to specific scenarios of people shooting while in their own home (this being a key factor), based on the fact that she....was actually in his house, and not her own....ya know?
Neon Bond, You still must have the complexion for protection and most likely a black person has to be on the losing end for that "I thought I ... was in my house" lie to work. You won't see black or white folks getting away killing unarmed white folks in their living room or anywhere else using that lie, oops I mean excuse. DL Hugely had already made the claim years before Amber Guyger murdered Bothem in his home with no remorse, until she was facing up to 99years, which most people with a clue knew she'd never get. " The worse place a black person can be is in a white person's imagination" DL Hughley
@@frattruck3382 youre probably right, BUUUT, if youve lived in an apartment complex, you know that you would at least slightly recognize the person who stays under you. The idea that this was not premeditated is simply hogwash. There are apartment numbers posted. They shoulda threw this bitch UNDER the fucking jail and come check on her in 10 years.
Trevor Noah ALWAYS comes straight with it!
Love watching these tidbits
While I agree with everything Trevor says here, the real difference in this case is not only the race difference, but also the profession of the murderer. I think the fact that she was a police officer at the time of the murder, is ultimately what reduced her sentence. As a white male firefighter, I am also one of those that believe the sentence was way too lenient. Mistake or not, she still took an innocent man's life, and I believe the sentence provided to her, should reflect that.
That is called manslaughter.
I think one factor people are not ask adknowleding is that an officer if they truly thought it was there home is going to react faster for fear it is someone there for retaliation. Not saying this is right, or that the sentence I'd right. But I can understand a cop shooting before asking questions if they truly thought it was their home.
Would the same be accorded to a non-white?
She should have stepped into the hallway and called for back up, she was trained? She should have known to do that, she walked in on him, even if he had been in her apartment, she didn't need deadly force in that situation. Seems like cops are a bit too trigger happy these days, being a cop doesn't give a person carte blanche to kill.
@@Shane-zq7bx so you're going to tell us that his home was decorated the same as her home to the point she couldn't tell the difference?
For me, the reaction was kinda different, I got angry seeing that scene, but not because she didn't deserve a hug or whatever, but because, even if Botham Jean was half as good a person as his brother seems to be, look at who we lost.
Exactly!
Forget skin color man. For Christ sake. The point of the kid doing what he did and saying what he said was for Christ... The Love of God. Tbh he exposed most of America's heart fr fr. This country is madd divided because of people like you and others who can't see pass skin color.
@@atvlogs6713 You completely missed the point.
@@breadbread4226 eh. I'm to tired to rebuttal so... Okay
Only 10 years for murder. Just another example of cops getting off for literal murder.
"Caps or white people", just another example of white people getting away with murder. because I don't believe if it was a black police officer who killed his white neighbor in their own house would receive 10 years of prison time. Just the image of black killing white carry the mandatory sentence of life in prison.
Shut the hell up. A black dude got 2 years in prison a while back for shooting someone while they were on the ground, it’s not anything special
3GRAMS OF CRACK COCAINE - 25-LIFE MANDATORY MINIMUM
MURDER - NO MANDATORY MINIMUM
MLG Prussian another white person in their feelings because more and more people are noticing the obvious white Privilege. This guy said a black dude got 2 years a while ago for shooting another while on the ground. Jejejejeje nobody believe you, send me the link to the story, lmfao. this doesn’t even sound like something that would happen in America, to the so call black man. unless you find out that the story was the other person who end up getting shot on the ground was the initial attacker and as self defense this so call black person who got two years in jail was protected himself and sill end up getting 2 years in jail. That sound more believable in this racist White supremacy country.
@@QQhermano Yeah his story seems fishy AF. Even if it was legit, there are thousands more stories of black people getting fucked over because of their skin color and white people getting away with shit just because we are white.
This is my favorite episode Trevor!
Your analysis captures my general mindset.
Tame your biases towards others, otherwise it keeps you evil.
And now the neighbor who testified was found shot dead on Friday night. And the woman who rec. Guyger has been missing for awhile.
#ADOSORBUST
I won't be surprised if these murderers are never found. I wonder if it's an intimidation tactic for the future saying "this is what happens to people who testifies against white people/cops" (if you're POC) :/
Wow
@@KurenaiKimitsu the murderers are likely the ones investigating the case ...
@Africandiasporanewschannel spoke to the female witness who videotaped it. She also has received death threats & they got her fired from her professional career. She has a go fund me as well
@@ADOS_TNT I found out too thanks to Phil and TADC.
I pause my movie just to watch your behind the scenes.
I love how cleverly he puts our thoughts and emotions into context. It's so well rounded and thought of.
The dissecting of the nuances of threads of societal thinking by Trevor gave me chills.
Gives me chills too ! How can this be he home of the brave or the land of the free with this racism ? The victims family are really wonderful people I love them ! This horrid cop can be executed and it would not be a loss but the loss of the victim is huge as he was a very loving person
He made racist jokes the way he always does. Should of been canceled over his jokes about Jews!
You Should have Chills, GOOD
so when a burglar is cought robbing your house he just has to say: I thought, this is my house" and then he gets free ??
( 5 years for murder means that every other crime is going to be sentenced as "not guilty")
the judge has no right to hug a criminal !! JUdges have to be impartial !! That's their job !!
The neighbor that testified was found dead yesterday or today.
This is the treatment WE get . THEY get light sentences and forgiveness for committing a crime. WE get murdered for witnessing a crime.
Isn't that horrible. After the brother n many hugged that Bitch n he gets murdered.
I'll bet the cops did it.
I'm not afraid to say that...
@@janlynnsimpson4300 maybe he will hug whoever shot the witness next since im sure that shooter deserves compassion too
He was shot once in the mouth and in the chest.
Only police should have guns
She got only 10years for killing a guy in his home?
Yup. 5 really.
Would most likely get 3 for good behavior.
That’s white privileged for you... this is how racist the court system is
She's white end of story
@@magicoke1 SNAPS
I surely dont want any cop to "accidentally" come into my home, shoot me and claim he/she thought it was their home. Very unfair to the victim. Trevor makes a great point in the end, we should all be treated with compassion like she was, but we can't forget that some crooked cops can use this same type of reasoning to commit more crimes in the future and learn on this verdict as past practice of the justice system.
Oh so you think she went into his home with the intent to kill botham?
@@ytjoekim That's not what I said. She could've been demon possessed for all I know. What I am saying is that it is still very unfair for the victim to not have a say in any of this. How do we know if the victim tried to let her know that she was mistaken and that it was truly his apartment? But then she fired her gun anyway. We do not know what went down, because we only have her word and not his = unfairness. Would you like for this event to happen again? Even anywhere in the world? I'm sure you dont.
@@ytjoekim Please tell me how one can mistake another person's home for their own? It was either on purpose or she was on drugs
@@kiyoponnn no thats exactly what im saying. Either on purpose or lack of training. But i dont think her killing him had to do with him being black. And just because she gets a bigger punishment, someone isnt going to go. Ok let me use that same excuse because she ONLY got 10 years in prison. 10 years in jail to ANYONE is a lot for them to imagine being locked up in a jail cell for that long. What im saying is this 10 year senrence is plently en9ugh for people to not want to use this same "excuse" amber did
@@ytjoekim But she'll be eligible for parole after 5 years, so it might not even be 10 years. And there are plenty of innocent people who have longer jail sentences
I don’t know how the Jeans were able to deal with their 18 year old embracing the murderer of his brother. I feel so terribly for the mother and father.
Not to mention him publicly stating how he wished she didn't have to do any jail time for killing his brother. When we got home, I would have kicked his crazy ass out. Maybe he could have lived with the cops family.
He should respect his own brother first.
Basics come first. Justice comes first.
How could he.
He forgived her sins against him as recommended in the bible.
You assume all black people have the same life experiences. These people are not African American. They are St. Lucians (immigrants) who do not have the same generational baggage as those born here. He doesn't see the world as you do, but more than anything, we should not get to have a say in how someone chooses to grieve. Talk about the case and you can even tackle the judge's choice to hug her because this was not her brother, son, cousin or friend. But you leave that man's brother to do whatever TF he wants to do. It was HIS loss. We just got an invitation to see it.
ObesePuppies
The New Testament is full of love and forgiveness.
Maybe you should read it instead of making prejudiced comments.
i love these types of talks. trevor is hilarious and uses humor to perfectly deal with some of the bizarre things going on in our country. videos like this, though, where he is just genuinely expressing his take on the heaviness of a subject, are so grounding to watch.
I don't know how scared she was of this so called intruder sitting in front of the TV in house clothes eating ice cream. Also she knew him, had history with him and so she knew he lived upstairs.... This is completely wild...
Is that true? No one anywhere that said they have a history
They never met before.
olu Ave just google it. She filled several noise complaints against him about his music but it never saw the light of day in court for reasons that are unknown at the moment
I think that has more to do with what societies view as appropriate/reasonable reactions to certain situations.
@@oluave2211 they read text that she was sending him that had racial slur in them. There are also picture of them together. I'm not sure if they dated but they knew each other.
I can’t wait until he covers the death of the witnesse who testified against Guyger
NNA S - I still hope he says something. It IS news.
I just heard about that a few hours ago. It will be interesting to hear/see` comments on that.
It was a well executed assassination. Which leads me to believe it was either the cops, some ex-military relative of Guyger or ...them. Possibly to aggravate a race war...
@@armageddon4831 Probably the cops.
@@Odinsday Johnny truth said it was well executed, that doesn't sound like something the police are capable of.
this is Trevor's one of the best!
I've gotta say, I love these sincere moments with Trevor Noah. I wish more people would tune in to this kind of dialogue. I can see why Jon Stewart believed in you.
From here on out that judge needs to hug every person convicted in her courtroom no matter what race the person is...
Judges shouldn't be hugging criminals
@@TokyoBlue587
Yet she did here
Who cares what race she is!!??? Get over race people or we will never learn
Actually she should hug any person that cries in her courtroom.
@@cicic5340 lmao
One of the two witnesses was murdered and the other ostracized!
There were at least four. The others didn't want to testify for fear of losing their lives.
Well said, Mr. Noah.
I found it interesting how dim the lights were in the studio audience, seemingly, as an aid to keep them calm. Very smart to do while speaking on such a “complicated” as you said, topics
There's so much wrong with this. First, the right to fire a gun in your own house REGARDLESS of the circumstances. Second, allowing that kind of self-defense defence when you're NOT in your own house. Third, allowing that awful and implausible excuse for a trained police officer, a so-called professional. Even without being trained you must be extremely intoxicated to mistake the house of somebody else for your own. Fourth, how did she get in there? Fifth, the non-threatening circumstances under which he was shot. Sixth, the witness being killed almost immediately after trial - despite her mild sentence. Taken everything into account it takes an astonishing level of naivety or bias to accept this made up story.
This stinks in so many ways that it's not a stretch to think there's plenty of people having dirt on them. Without knowing the details but are any of these illogical things addressed during the trial? The murder of the witness calls for a thorough investigation into everything (including the judge in this trial) AND a new trial of this woman. Shameful, once again
As a white man I admire the strength of the black community after countless of cruel injustices. Hopefully one day we all can live not only in peace but in a world that at least at a basic level deserves the label of fair and just. It's overdue that people are being held accountable for their actions, not by their skin color. I'm sick of it!
Definitely a lot of weirdness. If you go with the positive, she was out of it and this is like trying to open someone else's car when you're running on autopilot after a late shift. I can't picture being in someone else's home and not knowing it, but I don't pull 36 hours shifts either.
@@scorpionjs It was a 13 hour day. I'm sorry, I put that in on a regular basis, 60+ hours a week, never have I've ever walked into the wrong apartment, got on the wrong public transit train, jumped into the wrong uber/lyft. It takes a whole level of entitlement to try your key have it blink red, somehow have the door open, smell weed and still think I'm in the right place and then within seconds shoot a man dead, without attempting any level of resuscitation beyond a "sternum rub" while the possible life saving elements were in my backpack. Nope, I'm definitely going to text the guy I'm cheating with that "I need you, hurry, I fucked up."
Frank Forster Your comment exposes how stupid (ordinary) human beings are, because most people didn't think about these things. We are basically a minority in this world, I mean people like you and me who are smarter than the others
Because people will always focus on race, money, criminal pasts, religion, or sexual orientation. We are a species that thrives on hate and misery. Hell, the comments on this video mostly feature arguments that the violence should be continued into a race war while using homophobic slurs to instigate the hate
@@scorpionjs I know my place by the smell.
Good to see you discussing this we are still upset about this from st Lucia
This is so pathetic! It’s so hard to imagine a woman walks in another man’s house and shoots him? They were neighbours so she obviously knew him. He was sitting and eating a damn ice cream, she didn’t have to use her gun. This is so wrong. And then they tried to find grounds to justify it, but couldn’t find anything against him. How is this even okay? She really doesn’t need any forgiveness, she has a background of being a racist. Sometimes people deserve the consequences of what they do. I think it’s unpopular opinion that he wouldn’t be shot if he wasn’t black! Sad.
I agree.
She's out in 5 years, with good behavior.
Won't be surprised if she's out sooner than that. They already murdered the neighbor who testified AGAINST her.
Of course, the brother forgave her. Probably was intimated with his own life to convince for her to get the least amount of time.
Yeah pretty much on board with ya.
DG 4 she used to date him? where the hell you getting this information from
if she ws drunk i could even in the "slightiest" try to understand ... but to shoot him!? did she even asked who is is while pointing a gun at him? why she didn't followed the cop protocol and cal backup! why she didn't even tried to talk! yet on the same side we have a bunch of histories where people kill someone by accident and get life in prison ...while that kid playing wrestling with her cousin , they put him in jail FOR LIFE...
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