Hi Phil, at the end of the day as long as you’re happy with what you are doing to me that’s all that matters. It doesn’t matter what other people think or do I think Jabari is going to be wonderful back on the water again instead of sitting in the yard and rotting away. Keep up the good work love your videos really appreciate what you are doing Cliff from Logan city Queensland Australia 🇦🇺 from the big island 🏝️🦘🧑🏾🦽🐨🌏
Not sure if you already know about it, but at work i use cake icing pipe bags for paying out my epoxy fillets, abit like a caulking gun. Works a treat.. nice n clean and fast.
You can now buy empty caulking tubes with plunger caps and extra nozzles. You mix up your epoxy (glue, or resin filler paste), wrap it in gladwrap to a sausage shape, poke a hole in the exit end, insert sausage into tube, add plunging end cap, use gun as per normal till empty, pull out exhausted sausage wrap, rinse with metho if needed, ready to go again with new nozzle!
Hi Phil your clearly a timber boat builder and a good one at that not many left around today . You asked for some feed back about bow thrusters and fitting . On the inside at the place i work we pack with timber bloking and ply lamanated all glued and screwed on top of that up to the hight of the ribs .This saports the cut ribs ends and plank ends and alows for a nice flat surface to glass to . There is probly 100 ways to do the same job for the same outcome good luck i am enjoying what i am watching and leaning some good things along the way
My mind drifts back to the 1970's and an album by Ian Dury and the block heads now if I remember correctly it was entitled New Boots and Panties, I remember thinking at the time probably not for granny.Poor old girl she might die of shame, mutton dressed as lamb.
I am sure Phil is so relieved that you don't have a problem with him installing a bow thruster lol , just teasing , but most boats would greatly benefit from bow thrusters and i am sure insurance claims would be greatly reduced and Phils boat would greatly benefit with a stern thruster as well IMO
The funny thing about all these faired bow thrusters is that it's seems to be only(for the most part) done on retro fits. Most professionally designed commercial boats just have a nice radius entering the thruster. Unless you have something to cover the hole while under way , you still have a large hole disturbing the water flow. But it could be important at speeds over 10 or 12 knots Most fot the fairing on factory/commercial boats is for aesthetic purposes. Hydrostatically, you still have a big hole in the side of your boat
Him Phil, have missed this channel and your rebuild due to various personal circumstances but yesterday re-found it and have binge watched everything to this stage. I live in Port Stephens and I ,as I said in a note to you when you purchased her, had looked seriously at taking Jabiru myself but reluctantly and fortunately realized that it was and is clearly beyond my limited ability, so have gone back to modifying and updating my ex- japaneze lifeboat into a 30ft steam powered vessel. Love timber boats and have also followed Leo's magic efforts with Tally Ho. Like you I also have 30 odd years owning and working a local fishing charter vessel and for exactly the same reason i am currently fitting a Bow Thruster . 30 ft and a long keel makes turning just about impossible and as I intend to navigate river and confined areas it's a no brainer. What tunnel size did you use? Cut off could be interesting Cheers Jim Booth
Hi Jim, Tunnel size is 125mm inside. I will sell it but would have to check what I paid for it. Including the taper, it is 610mm long and 530mm from the short end of the taper. May be a bit short for you.
Hi Phil, what species of timber are you using for the Spiling? I have just kicked of the resto of a 1932 20ft Huon Pine work boat and am interested in your response to the recalking dramas. Mine will be living on a trailer so it would suit me to do a spile and glass as mine is a batten seam carvel. what are you thoughts? thank you for spending the time on top of your labour of love to bring this project to the world, it is such a valuable resource for the future to keep wooden boat building alive.
Oh man... Fiberglass on a carvel planked hull AND a bow thruster.... Blasphemy against the boat gods! LOL. Not what i would do, but shes your boat and you do great work nonetheless.
I have no problem whatsoever with changes to a vehicle of any kind, which make it more controllable. Sometimes our obsession with originality would puzzle the original builders, I think...
Not quite sure why this bugs me.Owned lots of boats , none had a motor and never dreamed of a bow thruster. Bit old fashioned if you like. Good on you. Anything that makes handling easier , go for it.
The bow thruster is just for that one in fifty berthings where everything is going go bad. Good to know the expensive topside finish will be intact. A single repair could cost more than the bow thruster.
Hmm. I think your "proud" edges to the bow thruster are not the best design. On TH-cam, a professional analysis of entry shapes is provided called "Sleipner / Side-Power thruster systems - the importance of correct tunnel installation!" on the Sleipner Group Channel. The curved edges of the tunnel entry is more critical for both noise and efficiency.
Imagine putting an old boat onto a new bow thruster! I'm sure The Cutty Sark would have had one if they had been around back then. Nice work Phil.
Can't agree more.
Hi Phil, at the end of the day as long as you’re happy with what you are doing to me that’s all that matters. It doesn’t matter what other people think or do I think Jabari is going to be wonderful back on the water again instead of sitting in the yard and rotting away. Keep up the good work love your videos really appreciate what you are doing Cliff from Logan city Queensland Australia 🇦🇺 from the big island 🏝️🦘🧑🏾🦽🐨🌏
You don't need to explain anything, Phil. You can do what you like!
Thank you.
Not sure if you already know about it, but at work i use cake icing pipe bags for paying out my epoxy fillets, abit like a caulking gun. Works a treat.. nice n clean and fast.
You can now buy empty caulking tubes with plunger caps and extra nozzles. You mix up your epoxy (glue, or resin filler paste), wrap it in gladwrap to a sausage shape, poke a hole in the exit end, insert sausage into tube, add plunging end cap, use gun as per normal till empty, pull out exhausted sausage wrap, rinse with metho if needed, ready to go again with new nozzle!
Great work. Excellent insights
Best wishes from Colorado. I'm enjoying your videos.
Hi Phil your clearly a timber boat builder and a good one at that not many left around today . You asked for some feed back about bow thrusters and fitting . On the inside at the place i work we pack with timber bloking and ply lamanated all glued and screwed on top of that up to the hight of the ribs .This saports the cut ribs ends and plank ends and alows for a nice flat surface to glass to . There is probly 100 ways to do the same job for the same outcome good luck i am enjoying what i am watching and leaning some good things along the way
Thanks for your comment and interest.
I look forward to these updates. I follow a few boat rebuilds and you offer a great laid back aussie perspective. Nice work.
Awesome, thank you!
I'm enjoying watching your progress
makes sense rather than ram the wharf/damage the boat as you said greenies will be at the helm ,have enjoyed your videos ,look forward for more .
My mind drifts back to the 1970's and an album by Ian Dury and the block heads now if I remember correctly it was entitled New Boots and Panties, I remember thinking at the time probably not for granny.Poor old girl she might die of shame, mutton dressed as lamb.
Looking fwd to hearing thoughts about leading/trailing edges!
Nice job Phil, I don't have a problem at all with a bow thruster in Jabiru, some things just have to be done for safety and or convenience. Seeya Rob
I am sure Phil is so relieved that you don't have a problem with him installing a bow thruster lol , just teasing , but most boats would greatly benefit from bow thrusters and i am sure insurance claims would be greatly reduced and Phils boat would greatly benefit with a stern thruster as well IMO
The funny thing about all these faired bow thrusters is that it's seems to be only(for the most part) done on retro fits. Most professionally designed commercial boats just have a nice radius entering the thruster.
Unless you have something to cover the hole while under way , you still have a large hole disturbing the water flow.
But it could be important at speeds over 10 or 12 knots
Most fot the fairing on factory/commercial boats is for aesthetic purposes.
Hydrostatically, you still have a big hole in the side of your boat
Yes. You make a good point. I don't have a logical or proven idea of what is the correct way to do it.
Him Phil, have missed this channel and your rebuild due to various personal circumstances but yesterday re-found it and have binge watched everything to this stage.
I live in Port Stephens and I ,as I said in a note to you when you purchased her, had looked seriously at taking Jabiru myself but reluctantly and fortunately realized that it was and is clearly beyond my limited ability, so have gone back to modifying and updating my ex- japaneze lifeboat into a 30ft steam powered vessel.
Love timber boats and have also followed Leo's magic efforts with Tally Ho.
Like you I also have 30 odd years owning and working a local fishing charter vessel and for exactly the same reason i am currently fitting a Bow Thruster . 30 ft and a long keel makes turning just about impossible and as I intend to navigate river and confined areas it's a no brainer.
What tunnel size did you use? Cut off could be interesting Cheers Jim Booth
Hi Jim, Tunnel size is 125mm inside. I will sell it but would have to check what I paid for it. Including the taper, it is 610mm long and 530mm from the short end of the taper. May be a bit short for you.
Hi Phil, what species of timber are you using for the Spiling? I have just kicked of the resto of a 1932 20ft Huon Pine work boat and am interested in your response to the recalking dramas. Mine will be living on a trailer so it would suit me to do a spile and glass as mine is a batten seam carvel. what are you thoughts? thank you for spending the time on top of your labour of love to bring this project to the world, it is such a valuable resource for the future to keep wooden boat building alive.
I'm just using radiata pine as that is easily available to me. I'll probably treat it with sealing epoxy on the inside before painting.
Oh man... Fiberglass on a carvel planked hull AND a bow thruster.... Blasphemy against the boat gods! LOL. Not what i would do, but shes your boat and you do great work nonetheless.
Would suggest hitting the wharf is a better option or sinking on the mooring because i couldn't get to her in time to pump out the leaking hull?
i always wondered why no one has come up with a simple sliding cover or flap , love this ship a lot
The stringers that you removed look like they were rotten.
I did cut out some rot, but they were mostly sound.
I have no problem whatsoever with changes to a vehicle of any kind, which make it more controllable. Sometimes our obsession with originality would puzzle the original builders, I think...
I believe your are correct in what you say here. Well said.
Not quite sure why this bugs me.Owned lots of boats , none had a motor and never dreamed of a bow thruster. Bit old fashioned if you like.
Good on you. Anything that makes handling easier , go for it.
The bow thruster is just for that one in fifty berthings where everything is going go bad. Good to know the expensive topside finish will be intact. A single repair could cost more than the bow thruster.
Hmm. I think your "proud" edges to the bow thruster are not the best design.
On TH-cam, a professional analysis of entry shapes is provided called "Sleipner / Side-Power thruster systems - the importance of correct tunnel installation!" on the Sleipner Group Channel.
The curved edges of the tunnel entry is more critical for both noise and efficiency.
Thank you. I'll look it up. Certainly not too late to change.