Happy father's day, it's so good you were able to spend time together. I just lost my dad a week ago out of the blue - perfectly healthy at 63, bit of a beer gut, picks up a flu, tests negative for COVID, then 4 days later he never wakes up. Life is so fragile, you never know what can happen, so we gotta love each other while we're here.
You ever just like ever feel for a NBA franchise, like after they make a bad move "Like bro why would you do that to yourself", I feel for you Timberwolves fans.
@@hightide7662no he isnt. You guys gave away 5 players and 5 picks for a player that can play defense only and averages around 14 pts per game. Rudy Gobert might be the best paint defender in the league but even he got cooked by Jokic in the playoffs just like any other center would - and if you pay this much for the so called “best post-defender” and he defends against Jokic the same way any other center would, then you got fuckin scammed.
@@tenno5514Is that true? Holy shit that’s bad. Even if it’s all G-league players. 5 for one on its face is NEVER a smart move. But 5x5 for 1? Yeah the wolves have given up on winning 😂😂
Im honestly confused by the trade because they gave up some playmaking for more shot creation which they already had an abundance of. Not to mention Beal's contract is bigger so it isnt like a cap saving move. I definitely want to see things play out before having a definitive opinion, but I'm not liking the trade for Phoenix. CP3 has dealt with (untimely) injuries so I guess getting someone whos healthier is a positive in all this. Regardless though, it feels like a sidestep rather than a step forward.
It's called: KD throwing a tantrum. he genuinely believes Booker=Harden but no hamstring issues. Beal=Kyrie but no disappearing acts will win him the chip
As a wizards fan we all know long term this is a huge win. Brad can be a #2 or 3 on a championship caliber roster, but not with his current contract. I’m so happy the team finally has some direction, I’m ok with a rebuild, better than finish 7-11 every year
The Suns were going to have depth issues if they kept CP3 too. And it was very unlikely they would move him for multiple good role players. At least now they swapped him for a younger star in Beal. They still have some flexibility with moving Ayton for role players as well
@@ImBarryScottCSS? Super teams were a thing ten years ago not 20. 20 was shaq and Kobe with good role players, the pistons without any super stars, wade and shaq, the spurs, etc. No crazy super teams like this till Boston then Miami
@@SouthSide41209 that’s 2 always from ten. That’s pretty deep considering you gotta balance millions of dollars with players who all want millions of dollars. Balance attitudes split up PT so on and so fourth.. there deep with all things considered… any more people specifically for the nuggets being a small market team they wouldn’t have had the money for Quality bench players.
I forced this trade through on 2K23's GM mode and the Suns consistently had Beal on the trading block afterwards 😂😂Even 2K is like "WTF are y'all doin??"
So here's the biggest thing thing about Beal. I've been watching him since high school. Including at florida. He came into the league as a shooter and defender with a great handle and vision who had prototypical size. Being in Washington this long with an ASS supporting squad has changed what he's had to focus on and the amount of work he has to do for them to be okay. So he's absolutely more comfortable doing everything else besides scoring. And being a knock down shooter.
I just wanna shout the brilliance of the video title great video as always. As soon as I saw the trade news I was looking forward to this and you didn’t disappoint
I think the only thing Beal provides that wasn’t on this team last year was rim pressure. Beal gets significantly more looks in the paint compared to anyone on the playoff team
Whatever you think about Beal as a player....dude was shrewd enough to outmaneuver Washington's old F.O. by getting a max contract with a no trade clause.He held the high cards over the Wizards organization.That being said ...this bad trade won't help either the Wizards or the Suns in the long run.If the Wizards traded him a season or two earlier,they could have gotten much more back for the trade.And the Suns still will lack depth to win a championship.(Even if they trade Ayton.)
Been watching your videos for a couple year now and I follow you on Twitter and I gotta say you are definitely one of my favorite TH-camrs period and definitely one of my favorite Twitter follows. You’re post always have me fucking dead 😂😂 keep going bro 💯
Absolutely, 100 percent agree. They still can’t defend. Nuggets and a couple other teams(who will be healthier next season more than likely) are gonna score 125 a night on them. In a league that’s shown every season that the winners have solid wing defenders and balance in your starting 5, they chose to zag and just overload on small, poor defending volume shooters. Booker is definitely a better defender than he used to be but he’s still not that great. How does this team stop the Nuggets? Shouldn’t teams be maneuvering to beat them?
@@macman2141completely agree… totally feels like a billionaire who swung big and lost, then decided to double down and do the same thing again simply because he can
I have two questions for the Suns right now: 1) Who is going to play point guard and run their offense? Because right now they have absolutely no one who can set anyone else up to score. This means that there will be more isolation basketball, and we all saw that that doesn't work when you play a real team that plays together and can move as a unit on offense and defense (like my Nuggets). Sure, they have three guys that can easily go off for 40 every night, but how do you put that together? Who do you have that can balance that out and keep everyone happy. They have nobody to quarterback this team (and say what you will about CP3 but he can still do that at a high level) and that's going to cost them. 2) How are you going to even come close to having a competent defense? I like Devon Booker, Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal's game. None of those guys have ever been what I would even call a two way play, much less a defensive stopper. Also they're either going to have to play Beal or Booker at point, or go small basically every time they start. Again, you deal with teams that have real size (Nuggets, Wolves, Clippers) and you immediately find yourself with matchup problems on defense. On top of that their new head coach is Frank Vogel, how do those guys integrate into the type of system Frank wants to run? They only guy on this roster I could see maybe getting better under Frank's tutelage is Deandre Ayton, and that's a maybe. On top of all of that, what are they going to be able to pay the rest of their team? Loose change and copper bracelets from the local tourist shops? Because Booker, Beal and Durant all command top dollar. What the Suns needed to figure out was how to do was add more depth cheaply, not add another star (who's very similar to one they already have). This is a move in the opposite direction from what they needed as a team.
Suns had depth, they had no chemistry. Stop this lazy narrative. They won as soon as they tried Ross and Warren. That shows they weren’t prepared for Denver.
The one thing I’ll say though is at least the Suns didn’t clown up as bad as the TimberWolves. Wiz need one more good trade to get their rebuild started right
Even if the Suns didn't trade for Beal they don't have the cap room, picks or players to even get back a decent role player. Either way they are only left with minimum contract guys. It's easy to just say get better role players. But in actual reality, they just don't have the assets.
Exactly, thank you. Outside of this trade, suns only options were to cut CP3 and bring him back on a min then hopefully use their 5M MLE on a decent role player which they also got in the Beal trade with Jordan Goodwin
There’s no reason to believe Beal is going to play the same chucking way he did for a mediocre Wizards on a contending Suns roster. When the Wizards had Wall, Beal showed proficiency at playing off of another star. His total shooting splits recently are just OK but his catch and shoot stats are still ~40% which tells me the issue isn’t his talent, it was his fit and usage in Washington.
But is that not part of the general argument? If it would translate into the direction you put forth, you'd have an extremely overpaid catch-and-shoot roleplayer, right?
@@emielmedieval2exactly. beal is good and all, but if you’re using him just as a catch and shoot guy, he’s not worth it. you can get a decent 3&D guy for half the price. then there’s the issue with their non-complementary skillset.
Maybe you don't understand. They didn't need one player who's a shooter. They needed multiple good role players to compliment Booker and Kevin. The only chance they have now is trading Ayton for a handful of guys.
@@stpbasss3773 which I don’t even think he’ll be worth enough to get those guys. They are already over the max with heavy penalties. It’ll be very difficult for them to get depth
I agree they need a deeper bench; that’s what got them to the 2021 finals. However, CP3 and his piece of the cap space were a liability at this point. So I do think their focus needs to return to building the bench but I’m not upset with this move.
I think they will all compliment each other simply because of their gravities and the spacing will be really good. Like you said the Nuggets are kinda 7-8 deep. I think they definitely need to trade Ayton not because he sucks but because thats the only way they can acquire depth. Lets say they turn Ayton into Valunciunas and Herb Jones or Capela and Bogdanovic or Steven Adams or any good key pieces that they can get via a 2-4 team trade then it could work. Also I think theyre gonna trade Payne too cause theyre overloaded on guards and they just got Goodwin too. So if they can get 2-3 really good rotational players thru an Ayton trade, another 1 for payne then sign min vets for okay hustle players then that 7-8 deep formula the Nuggets have can still work out for the Suns. And just found out they got Isaiah Todd in the deal too. Not a huge name or not even impactful but he is a young prospect and who knows what him and Goodwin can develop into or if they can be packaged as well
3 things come to mind 1. I think if you can trade Ayton to a team like Dallas, for like Christian Wood, Hardaway and Mcgee, that gives you much needed depth, and if you can bring back Terrance Ross, Torrey Craig and Josh Okogie as well that's an ok group of wings 2. Devin Booker has shown enough potential as a PG that he can make it work, we saw in the playoffs after Paul went down he stepped up into that role, and I think with this much talent around him, and also Beal and KD aren't completley incapable of making plays they'll be OK there 3. As a Clippers fan, if Chris Paul finds his way back to this team, I'm gonna feel some type of way. I want Russ back, but I fully understand if he's not willing to take the max we can offer him which is 4 million, and instead goes to a team like Minnesota, or Chicago or MIAMI, cause I don't think they're gonna get Dame, unless they are offering up Bam.
On your first point, I don't get why Dallas would agree to the trade if it's one-sided. The Mavs will gut their 2nd unit and will get a questionable "big" while the suns will get a serviceable bench. Mind you these two teams are competing with each other and are in the same conference. If I was Dallas, I would be looking to sign and trade Kyrie, not the bench.
Isn't Wood a free agent? Even if a sign and trade is an option, the Suns can't do that because it hard caps a team. That being said they definitely need to try and flip Ayton for at least 2 rotation pieces, tho it's been reported that Beal wants to play with him.
is there a possibility that they jumped in on the trade after hearing how low the wizards would go to get rid of him, with the thought they can get in on a good draft night/early season trade with him or ayton?
Bradley beals trade clause FOLLOWS him to phoenix, so if they wanna trade him anywhere, he has to agree. They cant flip him like youre describing without his consent. Maybe the swap ayton tho
When you construct a roster every GM's goal is to create a team whose output is greater than just the sum its parts. Suns might have an Output lesser than he sum of it's parts.
@@anthonymercado8126 yeah it was beal to Miami I think Lowry is also in his last year of his contract and they were giving up the first round pick of this year and 2027 and more When teams give up picks in general it’s stupid lol
I see it as addition by subtraction: the Suns swapped their two most untradeable, unslightly contracts and got the other team's all-star, best bench guard and a young prospect in return. Teams won't be running down the Suns nearly as much without old hobbled CP3 dragging down their pace.
Phoenix’s game plan might be kill them with offense and we’ll take our chances on defense, I don’t think they’ll run them at the same time a lot but some sort of staggering, beal might just be the extra gun that distracts you long enough for the main gun to reload
@@djeman2525just sun's fans trying to prove this trade will put them over the edge 😂. They need depth they already have two superstars. These three superstar teams with a bunch of vet minimums on the bench isn't working obviously.
@@stpbasss3773 a bulls fan so that’s even worse 😂 but it’s not to prove they’re astronomically better, just that it’s not as terrible as everyone is making it out to be, look at the mavs a whole lot of depth and nothing to show for it. It’s all speculation till we actually watch a couple of games and see the fit
They would have regretted just running it back with Chris Paul even more, and can you name another Chris Paul trade that makes sense and doesn't involve giving up more than Landry Shammet?
Adding a 2 level scorer who generates pretty decent rim pressure who's a good playmaker for a player who was gonna get cut anyways, a terrible role player, & a few 2nds isn't a bad trade at all man. The suns got a 2-3 level scorer who's a good playmaker & a good POA defender on a cheap contract. People are saying " what about depth" when they most likely trade Ayton for depth & if they cut cp3 what kind of " depth "would they realistically be able to get? Like I'm all for depth & defense over star power but let's be honest who could the suns have gotten to rebuild an entire rotation? They upgraded the Cp3 AND landry spots now they can look to trade Ayton for some glue guys ideally People are overthinking this.
Booker, KD, Beal, and (for now) Ayton take up a HUGE amount of their cap. Sure, they're probably gonna trade Ayton for some more pieces, but his value is not high right now considering his playoff performance, his motor, and his stasis as a player.
everybody just stretching to make off-season content so they need to be drama queen hot-takers. he literally said multiple times that he definitely could be wrong 😅 so it’s definitely more like we’ll just have to wait and see I’m saying giving Booker a legit wingman baller (instead of dead-weight+tiny CP3) is potentially like infamous death squad of Steph & Klay + KD ; Then you have an attractive opportunity for whoever is gonna be a hungry role-player that promises to show to all year with a play-to-win mentality. Miami just proved you can run-the-gambit, but they didn’t have the offensive finishers to land KOs in the finals; that’s where you need a big three firing squad like vintage GS
It’s not the trade but the money they take in from Beal. They will not be able to get rid of Beal for 4 years. And he’s gonna eat up like 50 mil a year. It’s not that the trade doesn’t look good. It’s that his presence kills that teams chances to get better or get any depth. They’ll have a fine regular season and get blown out in the first round regardless of their seeding. And that’s not even talking about his fit on the court. Overlapping KD and Books work space to shoot lower percentage from 2 and 3. So you’ll lose looks for two great scorers to give a mediocre one more looks? This is like every team that stuck Westbrook on their roster. It’s just not gonna win you important games. Also Beal is a below average defender. He SUCKS on defense. I liked to suns potential after unloading Paul. Now they’re just gonna be the post bubble lakers and eventually the nets last season.
@@urbaindelva7869 yea the new CBA will crush the suns even tho I expect them to trade ayton but all these teams that don't draft & develop well the cba will most likely crush them but I agree. And I see the negatives in this deal don't get me wrong, but I also think the things they needed weren't realistically obtainable
Eh as a Suns fan it's understandable why we did this. We were most likely gonna trade Paul or waive him and sign him back and still have nothing to get from free agency cause we had no money to begin with. Plus we did still got two players in return in this trade for Beal. Goodwin seems promising as a 24 year old and a much better defender than Shamet
Confession - I don't follow the Suns that closely -- Raptors fan here. But this gentleman nailed it. Excellent synopsis about why this is such a bad deal for Phoenix. The "Big Three" era of constructing super teams is over, but sadly there are front office staffers who haven't realized that and want the sugar high of instant gratification. You now have no bench whatsoever, and all that's required to turn this plan into a disaster for the Suns is an injury which, given the history of these three is more probable than not. There's a reason why players such as Mikal Bridges and OG Anunoby are so highly valued and were constantly mentioned in trade rumors. 2 way wing defenders who can guard multiple positions are hard to come by. They don't need to score 22 ppg, but they do all of the small things that in total add up to a complete TEAM. Catch and shoot 3 pointers. Hard screens. Tough defenders of the opposition's best players. These are roles that are as valuable as KD and Booker. So who is your shut down defender? Your boardman? This team will not beat Denver if you can't guard and stop people. Oh well...good luck Suns fans.
@@attackthem8908 it's called the off-season has barely just started lmao. FA hasn't even opened up yet 😂. agree with the OP stop thinking short term lol
KD is an overrated shooter? He has shot the three ball over 38.5 percent for 10 years in his career??? and over 40% for like six seasons, that’s not a great shooter? Also, KD has shot like 50-60% from the field in his career, that’s not great shooting?? He shoots mostly midrange from twos, come on man
The last few post seasons kd has missed a lot of open 3s and 2’s. He’s starting to drop off in the playoffs when he used to get better in the playoffs.
I completely agree. Not sure how the fit and role players are going to work. You cant just go get playoff caliber players. It's not all about getting as many all NBA players on your team as possible.
This is actually a good trade… they were already over the cap even if they didn’t have CP3’s contract so they would have been very limited on adding depth this offseason and even next offseason for that matter. They got a very good player for CP3, Shamet and 2nd round picks/pick swaps. Now the Durant trade is something that they are already regretting… they gave away 2 good young players… one being very good (Mikal) and on a very team friendly contract. Also the 4 first round picks for an aging player that is still good but is about to turn 35 years old and is injury prone. They basically gutted their core and mortgaged their future just to get knocked out of the 2nd round. They were a more complete team before the KD trade and would have had way more flexibility to improve their team and address their weaknesses.
I'm a Suns fan and I can't stand this trade. The team needs depth and defense, but instead we traded for a lesser Devin Booker. I like Beal but he's a terrible fit for this team.
On every championship level team, each position used to have a specific role on the team. Nowadays everyone is a hybrid scorer which sounds good on paper to team up, but there’s only one ball to work with. Denver winning this year and how they won should show you how to put a team together.
The thing is that these players can all change their games slightly to make it work. D Wade talked about this post-Mavs series about playing differently to make it work. So it’s possible that what on paper isn’t complimentary becomes complimentary. It’s just not likely.
This take is beyond lazy. He doesn’t seem to understand that the Suns main issue was that they had almost no chemistry and got injured as well. They had quality players on the bench but did not know how to use them. Suns absolutely did an amazing trade everyone loves the idea of role players > bradley beal but in reality this move elevates Book and KD’s game.
Agree. They will fill out the bench by trading Ayton or maybe Vogel can help Ayton develop the way Monty couldn't. Beal allows the Suns to stagger Book and KD's minutes and always have a major scoring threat on the floor, no matter what. It's a win!
Thank you Rusty. I was starting to feel like I was the only one who wasn’t moved by this trade. Not only for the exact reasons you and other TH-camrs pointed out, but also the fact that all three of those stars have a history of being injured. So they’ll be shelling out all that money to their stars and once one or two of them get hurt; they’ll be replaced by a guy who’s a vet minimum player.
@@Shortballa11 a lot of lakers fans (yes those dummies and I would know because I am one) are acting like it’s a great trade simply because they got Beal for pieces they were gonna give up anyway. But the thing is they don’t fit together well at all.
I think their three point % increases in total based on them shooting more catch and shoot rather than dribbling into the shot granted Beal and Booker are semi able to generate rim pressure DBook did in the postseason so hopefully he can span that into an 82 game sample
The reason I like this trade a lot is there really was the idea that flipping Paul for depth would have been very hard already. At most they open up a mid level exception which gets you at most maybe like a Gabe Vincent. Like you pointed out they still have the opportunity to trade DeAndre Ayton to help build out their depth. No matter what happened their depth was already gonna be shot. At least now when they double one of the players or the others they can have either Beal or one of Booker or Durant in opposite corners where the ball will get swims too. Plus you get a star for basically nothing cause you would probably waive Paul for free anyways
Also the whole three point shooting will improve across the board cause all of them will now be shooting far more catch and shoot threes which are far easier shots
They turned CP3 making 30 mill and Shamet making 10 mill into Beals 50 mill contract, even if they let CP3 walk it would cost them 15 mill and they would still have Shamets 10 mill contract
@@kiwavy??? They would've been in cap hell regardless, the Owner has already said he doesn't care how much money he has to spend so an extra 5 mill doesn't bother him
I think they will be great, but they have to find a way to add at least one other capable role player. Now KD and Book won't have to play 40+ minutes a night, their efficiency will skyrocket, and open shots will come easier than ever before. Cam Payne has shown to be a solid guard in the playoffs, they still keep Ayton, the free agency market should be good for them, assuming other players want to join this team for cheap. The next few months are going to be crucial, with the new rookies soon to be taking roster spots, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the suns round out this team to a satisfactory level. Frank Vogel is going to be a great fit here, he'll help hide their weaknesses on the defensive end. With KD getting older, this was a great move by the suns, they needed to do something big to contend with the current Nuggets roster.
Crazy how like every team KDs been on since the Warriors they’ve all been like clear championship or bust team’s simply because of how ridiculously busted the rosters he’s been on have been
It's always easy to shit on everything, but, who would they have traded for to get those things you mentioned? Who was the lockdown defender they were trading CP3 and Shamet for? They were stuck with either just waiving Paul to get 7mil to get a free agent, or get Beal and get 5mil to sign free agents
We needed another shooter. We also still need depth and someone who is a solid rebounder. Suns will surprise you with what they do. The owner is the wild card. He will spend.
you've got nothing to spend with bc of the new CBA which kicks in July 1st before free agency starts. unless you trade ayton for lesser contracts, this is your team for the year
The MLE is only removed if you go over the second apron, and I don't think that kicks in for one more year FYI. So you have to be something like 17 million over the luxury tax line before you lose your MLE (and the ability to take back more salary than you send out in trades, and the ability to sign buyout players, and I forget what else).
A great example is that team USA, full of stars, even if they win gold, they had a tough time against well put teams even they are full of stars. Talents in the suns are redundant. This is a bad trade for them especially if they don't trade Ayton for depth. This off-season is the last chance to trade Ayton for depth because of the new CBA. You can't trade Ayton for an aggregate package, they can only trade him for another player in the new CBA that will be implemented next off-season. (except the MLE restrictions)
In the days of ai . You cna literally just copy and paste raptor scores and all that data into chatgpt and it will tell you what type of player your team needs . If a person is making these mistakes ,leave it to ai
The suns needed russ if u really think about it a top 10 playmaker last season, great for rebounding, adds defense at least in comparison to Beal! If he performs how he did in the playoffs that could have been a good fit on the suns for Russ
@@alexgonzales2001 or even better just trade Cp3 for Russ sign him to a 1 year vet min, keep shamet and the picks and just look towards free agency for depth
@@ozberkoz better than Beal, Westbrook knows his role and what he has to do and can still go Bum Ass Beal is inconsistent, injury prone and not a team player
The money sucks, but player wise, they got a 29 yr old All Star caliber player for the corpse of a 38 yr old CP3, and a guy with negative value in Landry Shamet.I'm going to let the offseason play out before I make any judgements about the Suns.Guess i'm in the extreme minority.I think Beal is a huge upgrade over CP3.He's been totally washed since the Dallas series in 2022.His slow down, half court, dribble dribble style is outdated.I actually felt like he bogged down the Suns offense at times.
Man, paying 50 million a year to a guy who will probably average 20ppg on the suns is crazy. And he got a no trade clause so have fun for the next 5 years
Well they brought in a defensive mastermind in Frank Vogel so that will definitely help the Suns defense. But depth will be a problem for this Suns team with the entire salary cap being anchored down by 4 guys
I'm pretty sure the 2nd apron provisions in the new CBA procedures Phoenix from signing in season buyout guys in addition to no mid-level exception. While I agree that Beal is not a fit with this roster I don't know that they had the flexibility to add guys in free agency. I might have that wrong but my understanding of their situation was that they didn't have the means to improve by adding crucial role players. In that context I don't completely hate the deal. They were going to jettison CP3 anyhow and they didn't really give up much draft capital. It's possible to make the case that adding Beal was the best case scenario in terms of extracting value from CPs expiring deal. To be clear I don't think Phoenix's title odds improved all that much. While this trade may not do what Phoenix hopes it does it's not an unmitigated disaster the way the Gobert trade was the second it happened.
The Suns really just pulled a Nets a few years after that disaster, but we also should remember the team Beal was coming from. As a Wizards fan, we did not have a good roster around him, and I'm excited to see what he does when hes not the primary defensive target. But I don't think that involves a championship
This aged perfectly
They are gonna regret it when free agency starts and they have less than a K to spend on the bench
Well, weren’t they already in the trouble even without trading for Beal due to CP3’s contract?
the suns weren't gonna get quality depth anyways that's what y'all are not getting
@@iamyourfathr420 yea but this makes it even worse
@@iamyourfathr420 CP only has about 15 mil guaranteed so they could’ve just waived him. Beal has another 4 years.
@@Joshknowsball0 "We're gonna die anyways, why not just kill ourselves?"
Happy father's day, it's so good you were able to spend time together. I just lost my dad a week ago out of the blue - perfectly healthy at 63, bit of a beer gut, picks up a flu, tests negative for COVID, then 4 days later he never wakes up. Life is so fragile, you never know what can happen, so we gotta love each other while we're here.
Sorry for your loss rip
Keep your head up man. Sorry for your loss. You got a love of love and support in this world ❤️
My condolescences. Keep killing it bro!
Rip to your pops bro
Sorry to hear that, hope you are doing well
You ever just like ever feel for a NBA franchise, like after they make a bad move "Like bro why would you do that to yourself", I feel for you Timberwolves fans.
Gobert is worth it
@@hightide7662 Minnesota sacrificing for another bleak future.
Watch Ant become part of another historical Big 3 later down the line.
@@hightide7662no he isnt. You guys gave away 5 players and 5 picks for a player that can play defense only and averages around 14 pts per game. Rudy Gobert might be the best paint defender in the league but even he got cooked by Jokic in the playoffs just like any other center would - and if you pay this much for the so called “best post-defender” and he defends against Jokic the same way any other center would, then you got fuckin scammed.
@@tenno5514Is that true? Holy shit that’s bad. Even if it’s all G-league players. 5 for one on its face is NEVER a smart move. But 5x5 for 1? Yeah the wolves have given up on winning 😂😂
@@hightide7662 3x defensive player of the year but cant be played in the 4th quarter or lockdown jokic man is the definition off overrated
Im honestly confused by the trade because they gave up some playmaking for more shot creation which they already had an abundance of. Not to mention Beal's contract is bigger so it isnt like a cap saving move. I definitely want to see things play out before having a definitive opinion, but I'm not liking the trade for Phoenix. CP3 has dealt with (untimely) injuries so I guess getting someone whos healthier is a positive in all this. Regardless though, it feels like a sidestep rather than a step forward.
It's called: KD throwing a tantrum. he genuinely believes Booker=Harden but no hamstring issues. Beal=Kyrie but no disappearing acts will win him the chip
They will only regret it if they don’t win a ring if they do nothing else matters everyone involved will be super hero’s to suns fans
Paul is done his body is done he can’t stay healthy in playoffs
Beal doesn't even play much he's prone to injuries just like kd snd booker
@@jdhiner1 exactly, he's like 38 years old and always injured.
As a wizards fan we all know long term this is a huge win. Brad can be a #2 or 3 on a championship caliber roster, but not with his current contract. I’m so happy the team finally has some direction, I’m ok with a rebuild, better than finish 7-11 every year
As a Wizard fan I’m gonna miss Wall and Beal but it’s really time to move on. Hopefully, we can go in the right direction.
The Suns were going to have depth issues if they kept CP3 too. And it was very unlikely they would move him for multiple good role players. At least now they swapped him for a younger star in Beal. They still have some flexibility with moving Ayton for role players as well
Someone gets it..
Doesn't Beal have a much bigger contract than CP3 with less of a history being as good as a point/playmaker?
@@navonmyhand7999 Would you rather have him or not have him? It's a no-brainer. They can have him on the 2nd unit as an offensive threat.
@@DIVISIONINCISION no way he's on the second unit. he's gonna be the number 1 or number 2 option now that book is projected to be point
@@navonmyhand7999 both have massive contracts CP was at 30 million for each of the next 2 seasons and Beal has 4 seasons left at 50 million each
Respect to you man for keeping up with the NBA news grind, you make night shifts a lot easier for me 👊
Facts especially in season when I can’t watch any games I come home and watch the vids or listen on the drive home
@@haydenfreeman7685iiiuui😅😅😅😅ooo😊
@@boyycarolina i know right
Kevin Durant is really in a rush to destroy another franchise with another Big 3.
You idiots keep thinking KD is behind this trade lol
They’re already fucked after their contention window inevitably closes
3 years in a row of teams with deep depth and chemistry winning the chip….and teams still scrambling to get the best names….shit is insanity
They literally think they are playing basketball 20 years ago.
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@@ImBarryScottCSS? Super teams were a thing ten years ago not 20. 20 was shaq and Kobe with good role players, the pistons without any super stars, wade and shaq, the spurs, etc. No crazy super teams like this till Boston then Miami
Nuggets played an 8 man rotation i dont get this deep depth talk
@@SouthSide41209 that’s 2 always from ten. That’s pretty deep considering you gotta balance millions of dollars with players who all want millions of dollars. Balance attitudes split up PT so on and so fourth.. there deep with all things considered… any more people specifically for the nuggets being a small market team they wouldn’t have had the money for
Quality bench players.
Big-ups to Rusty for spending father's day with his dad. Also agree 100% on the take.
Lol turned shamet and cp3 into beal. they woulda been lucky to trade them for low level roleplayers let alone beal.
I forced this trade through on 2K23's GM mode and the Suns consistently had Beal on the trading block afterwards 😂😂Even 2K is like "WTF are y'all doin??"
Kenny did this and they immediately traded Beal 😂. This is a crazy trade i don’t know what they were thinking.
So here's the biggest thing thing about Beal. I've been watching him since high school. Including at florida. He came into the league as a shooter and defender with a great handle and vision who had prototypical size. Being in Washington this long with an ASS supporting squad has changed what he's had to focus on and the amount of work he has to do for them to be okay. So he's absolutely more comfortable doing everything else besides scoring. And being a knock down shooter.
Damn Suns really ate this offseason
I just wanna shout the brilliance of the video title great video as always. As soon as I saw the trade news I was looking forward to this and you didn’t disappoint
I think the only thing Beal provides that wasn’t on this team last year was rim pressure. Beal gets significantly more looks in the paint compared to anyone on the playoff team
Whatever you think about Beal as a player....dude was shrewd enough to outmaneuver Washington's old F.O. by getting a max contract with a no trade clause.He held the high cards over the Wizards organization.That being said
...this bad trade won't help either the Wizards or the Suns in the long run.If the Wizards traded him a season or two earlier,they could have gotten much more back for the trade.And the Suns still will lack depth to win a championship.(Even if they trade Ayton.)
Aye Rusty we respect your uploading today with it being Father’s Day and already having a video up, you’re awesome man!
Been watching your videos for a couple year now and I follow you on Twitter and I gotta say you are definitely one of my favorite TH-camrs period and definitely one of my favorite Twitter follows. You’re post always have me fucking dead 😂😂 keep going bro 💯
Absolutely, 100 percent agree. They still can’t defend. Nuggets and a couple other teams(who will be healthier next season more than likely) are gonna score 125 a night on them. In a league that’s shown every season that the winners have solid wing defenders and balance in your starting 5, they chose to zag and just overload on small, poor defending volume shooters. Booker is definitely a better defender than he used to be but he’s still not that great. How does this team stop the Nuggets? Shouldn’t teams be maneuvering to beat them?
This trade has Mat Ishbia’s fingerprints all over it…he’s a hothead and should not be making GM decisions 😂
@@macman2141completely agree… totally feels like a billionaire who swung big and lost, then decided to double down and do the same thing again simply because he can
I have two questions for the Suns right now:
1) Who is going to play point guard and run their offense? Because right now they have absolutely no one who can set anyone else up to score. This means that there will be more isolation basketball, and we all saw that that doesn't work when you play a real team that plays together and can move as a unit on offense and defense (like my Nuggets). Sure, they have three guys that can easily go off for 40 every night, but how do you put that together? Who do you have that can balance that out and keep everyone happy. They have nobody to quarterback this team (and say what you will about CP3 but he can still do that at a high level) and that's going to cost them.
2) How are you going to even come close to having a competent defense? I like Devon Booker, Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal's game. None of those guys have ever been what I would even call a two way play, much less a defensive stopper. Also they're either going to have to play Beal or Booker at point, or go small basically every time they start. Again, you deal with teams that have real size (Nuggets, Wolves, Clippers) and you immediately find yourself with matchup problems on defense. On top of that their new head coach is Frank Vogel, how do those guys integrate into the type of system Frank wants to run? They only guy on this roster I could see maybe getting better under Frank's tutelage is Deandre Ayton, and that's a maybe.
On top of all of that, what are they going to be able to pay the rest of their team? Loose change and copper bracelets from the local tourist shops? Because Booker, Beal and Durant all command top dollar.
What the Suns needed to figure out was how to do was add more depth cheaply, not add another star (who's very similar to one they already have). This is a move in the opposite direction from what they needed as a team.
@@macman2141 I don't know Ishbia well, tell me about this because I'm curious.
@@macman2141new owner syndrome
I just worry about Phoenix's depth, which was lacking during the playoffs. Phoenix traded too many assets to acquire Durant
Suns had depth, they had no chemistry. Stop this lazy narrative. They won as soon as they tried Ross and Warren. That shows they weren’t prepared for Denver.
@@indamaking100% on Monty
@@indamakingso what happened games 5 and 6?
@@SimonLYW like I said they weren’t ready for Denver. Nuggets adjusted to the Suns adjustments
they lost no depth in the KD trade though, any PHX fan will tell you our bench was shit before the Durant trade lol
I was already going to like the vid, the “call that Bradley deal” line made me immediately slam that button though lol
He just called Booker, KD, and Beal secondary play makers?! Who the heck you call primary then?!
Point guards probably
Yep, Chris Paul.
This might be a crazy move but on draft night they should trade Ayton for a top 15 pick to get Dereck Lively and some other role player.
Lively is way too raw. Gonna need a year in the G league before he produces as a starter for a playoff team...
Take aged like fine wine, Lmao!!!
Mans built a team like he was playing 2k with no injuries and no fatigue.
One of the best videos you've made in a minute.
Excellent analysis.
Not taking anyone who has Curry and Lakers jerseys in the background seriously when it comes to Suns takes
The one thing I’ll say though is at least the Suns didn’t clown up as bad as the TimberWolves. Wiz need one more good trade to get their rebuild started right
Been waiting for your take on this!
Saving this video until 2024 playoffs, to see how it ages.
Suns really made out like bandits this offseason 😮
Even if the Suns didn't trade for Beal they don't have the cap room, picks or players to even get back a decent role player. Either way they are only left with minimum contract guys. It's easy to just say get better role players. But in actual reality, they just don't have the assets.
Exactly, thank you. Outside of this trade, suns only options were to cut CP3 and bring him back on a min then hopefully use their 5M MLE on a decent role player which they also got in the Beal trade with Jordan Goodwin
I mean Ayton might be able to net a few role players which would be the best to fill out the team.
@@lorddane4147 i doubt Ayton is worth much tbh
@@justinebautista1383 I'm hoping we can get like Josh Green and a Powell, Bertans, Kleber or McGee atleast if not 1 more role player for Ayton.
That’s cool. Nuggets in 6 again 🤣
Pheonix is a potluck where everyone brought fried chicken.
Congrats to the Suns for the (now) greatest trade of all times
There’s no reason to believe Beal is going to play the same chucking way he did for a mediocre Wizards on a contending Suns roster. When the Wizards had Wall, Beal showed proficiency at playing off of another star. His total shooting splits recently are just OK but his catch and shoot stats are still ~40% which tells me the issue isn’t his talent, it was his fit and usage in Washington.
But is that not part of the general argument? If it would translate into the direction you put forth, you'd have an extremely overpaid catch-and-shoot roleplayer, right?
@@emielmedieval2exactly. beal is good and all, but if you’re using him just as a catch and shoot guy, he’s not worth it. you can get a decent 3&D guy for half the price. then there’s the issue with their non-complementary skillset.
@@jhdivina you can get three of those type of guys for the price of one Bradley Beal season.
Maybe you don't understand. They didn't need one player who's a shooter. They needed multiple good role players to compliment Booker and Kevin. The only chance they have now is trading Ayton for a handful of guys.
@@stpbasss3773 which I don’t even think he’ll be worth enough to get those guys. They are already over the max with heavy penalties. It’ll be very difficult for them to get depth
I love this trade it makes the NBA more interesting
I agree they need a deeper bench; that’s what got them to the 2021 finals. However, CP3 and his piece of the cap space were a liability at this point. So I do think their focus needs to return to building the bench but I’m not upset with this move.
I think they will all compliment each other simply because of their gravities and the spacing will be really good. Like you said the Nuggets are kinda 7-8 deep. I think they definitely need to trade Ayton not because he sucks but because thats the only way they can acquire depth. Lets say they turn Ayton into Valunciunas and Herb Jones or Capela and Bogdanovic or Steven Adams or any good key pieces that they can get via a 2-4 team trade then it could work. Also I think theyre gonna trade Payne too cause theyre overloaded on guards and they just got Goodwin too. So if they can get 2-3 really good rotational players thru an Ayton trade, another 1 for payne then sign min vets for okay hustle players then that 7-8 deep formula the Nuggets have can still work out for the Suns.
And just found out they got Isaiah Todd in the deal too. Not a huge name or not even impactful but he is a young prospect and who knows what him and Goodwin can develop into or if they can be packaged as well
3 things come to mind
1. I think if you can trade Ayton to a team like Dallas, for like Christian Wood, Hardaway and Mcgee, that gives you much needed depth, and if you can bring back Terrance Ross, Torrey Craig and Josh Okogie as well that's an ok group of wings
2. Devin Booker has shown enough potential as a PG that he can make it work, we saw in the playoffs after Paul went down he stepped up into that role, and I think with this much talent around him, and also Beal and KD aren't completley incapable of making plays they'll be OK there
3. As a Clippers fan, if Chris Paul finds his way back to this team, I'm gonna feel some type of way. I want Russ back, but I fully understand if he's not willing to take the max we can offer him which is 4 million, and instead goes to a team like Minnesota, or Chicago or MIAMI, cause I don't think they're gonna get Dame, unless they are offering up Bam.
On your first point, I don't get why Dallas would agree to the trade if it's one-sided. The Mavs will gut their 2nd unit and will get a questionable "big" while the suns will get a serviceable bench. Mind you these two teams are competing with each other and are in the same conference. If I was Dallas, I would be looking to sign and trade Kyrie, not the bench.
That is way too much value for ayton
Isn't Wood a free agent? Even if a sign and trade is an option, the Suns can't do that because it hard caps a team. That being said they definitely need to try and flip Ayton for at least 2 rotation pieces, tho it's been reported that Beal wants to play with him.
Mavs are dumping Wood and he’s a free agent
That’s a dumb trade for the suns a bunch of third string players for a 18 and 10 young center
is there a possibility that they jumped in on the trade after hearing how low the wizards would go to get rid of him, with the thought they can get in on a good draft night/early season trade with him or ayton?
Bradley beals trade clause FOLLOWS him to phoenix, so if they wanna trade him anywhere, he has to agree. They cant flip him like youre describing without his consent. Maybe the swap ayton tho
As soon as I heard about the trade I was waiting for this video lol
When you construct a roster every GM's goal is to create a team whose output is greater than just the sum its parts. Suns might have an Output lesser than he sum of it's parts.
It's amazing how literally no one but the Sun's thinks this is a good trade
They gave up a washed Chris Paul and a useless role player for an all star
The fans know more than KD, Book and the Suns professionals
@@bigbucket3 a redundant all star.
It’s not a good trade at all.
@@anthonymercado8126 yeah it was beal to Miami I think Lowry is also in his last year of his contract and they were giving up the first round pick of this year and 2027 and more
When teams give up picks in general it’s stupid lol
They can trade Ayton for Depth and for those who watched this year playoffs you know that Booker cable enough to be a playmaker🤷🏾♂️
No the fuck they can't.
What type depth do y’all think ayton is getting now a days ?
@@jabaripenn551 a lot
@@justinroberts7373not happening
@@justinroberts7373 13 points 10 rebounds in the playoffs? That's not worth a lot.
I see it as addition by subtraction: the Suns swapped their two most untradeable, unslightly contracts and got the other team's all-star, best bench guard and a young prospect in return. Teams won't be running down the Suns nearly as much without old hobbled CP3 dragging down their pace.
Phoenix’s game plan might be kill them with offense and we’ll take our chances on defense, I don’t think they’ll run them at the same time a lot but some sort of staggering, beal might just be the extra gun that distracts you long enough for the main gun to reload
Finally a smart take lol.
@@djeman2525just sun's fans trying to prove this trade will put them over the edge 😂. They need depth they already have two superstars. These three superstar teams with a bunch of vet minimums on the bench isn't working obviously.
@@stpbasss3773 What depth are you getting for CP3 and Shamet ?
@@stpbasss3773 a bulls fan so that’s even worse 😂 but it’s not to prove they’re astronomically better, just that it’s not as terrible as everyone is making it out to be, look at the mavs a whole lot of depth and nothing to show for it. It’s all speculation till we actually watch a couple of games and see the fit
They would have regretted just running it back with Chris Paul even more, and can you name another Chris Paul trade that makes sense and doesn't involve giving up more than Landry Shammet?
100k views in less than a day? You killing it bro 🔥
First thing I said when the trade went down: "Rusty is gonna love this."
This trade is like trading in the brakes on your car for more wheels.
Adding a 2 level scorer who generates pretty decent rim pressure who's a good playmaker for a player who was gonna get cut anyways, a terrible role player, & a few 2nds isn't a bad trade at all man.
The suns got a 2-3 level scorer who's a good playmaker & a good POA defender on a cheap contract. People are saying " what about depth" when they most likely trade Ayton for depth & if they cut cp3 what kind of " depth "would they realistically be able to get? Like I'm all for depth & defense over star power but let's be honest who could the suns have gotten to rebuild an entire rotation?
They upgraded the Cp3 AND landry spots now they can look to trade Ayton for some glue guys ideally
People are overthinking this.
Booker, KD, Beal, and (for now) Ayton take up a HUGE amount of their cap. Sure, they're probably gonna trade Ayton for some more pieces, but his value is not high right now considering his playoff performance, his motor, and his stasis as a player.
everybody just stretching to make off-season content so they need to be drama queen hot-takers.
he literally said multiple times that he definitely could be wrong 😅 so it’s definitely more like we’ll just have to wait and see
I’m saying giving Booker a legit wingman baller (instead of dead-weight+tiny CP3) is potentially like infamous death squad of Steph & Klay + KD ;
Then you have an attractive opportunity for whoever is gonna be a hungry role-player that promises to show to all year with a play-to-win mentality.
Miami just proved you can run-the-gambit, but they didn’t have the offensive finishers to land KOs in the finals; that’s where you need a big three firing squad like vintage GS
It’s not the trade but the money they take in from Beal. They will not be able to get rid of Beal for 4 years. And he’s gonna eat up like 50 mil a year. It’s not that the trade doesn’t look good. It’s that his presence kills that teams chances to get better or get any depth. They’ll have a fine regular season and get blown out in the first round regardless of their seeding. And that’s not even talking about his fit on the court. Overlapping KD and Books work space to shoot lower percentage from 2 and 3. So you’ll lose looks for two great scorers to give a mediocre one more looks? This is like every team that stuck Westbrook on their roster. It’s just not gonna win you important games. Also Beal is a below average defender. He SUCKS on defense. I liked to suns potential after unloading Paul. Now they’re just gonna be the post bubble lakers and eventually the nets last season.
@@urbaindelva7869 A team will bite the bullet on DA. We literally saw Westbrook, who was at his lowest value, get trade for quality depth
@@urbaindelva7869 yea the new CBA will crush the suns even tho I expect them to trade ayton but all these teams that don't draft & develop well the cba will most likely crush them but I agree. And I see the negatives in this deal don't get me wrong, but I also think the things they needed weren't realistically obtainable
As a Suns fan I am so confused on this trade and don't know how to feel yet...i wanna see the rest of the off season first
If the Suns are able to get depth(like a shooter, a role player and a center) from say trading Ayton then this might turn out good. It depends.
FINALLY someone from that side that gets it! Sorry your team screwed themselves man from a Bulls fan im not looking forward to next year
Eh as a Suns fan it's understandable why we did this. We were most likely gonna trade Paul or waive him and sign him back and still have nothing to get from free agency cause we had no money to begin with. Plus we did still got two players in return in this trade for Beal. Goodwin seems promising as a 24 year old and a much better defender than Shamet
He's still more useful than the corpse of cp0 who's been injured 4/5 last playoffs
You aren’t a suns fan
Confession - I don't follow the Suns that closely -- Raptors fan here. But this gentleman nailed it. Excellent synopsis about why this is such a bad deal for Phoenix. The "Big Three" era of constructing super teams is over, but sadly there are front office staffers who haven't realized that and want the sugar high of instant gratification. You now have no bench whatsoever, and all that's required to turn this plan into a disaster for the Suns is an injury which, given the history of these three is more probable than not. There's a reason why players such as Mikal Bridges and OG Anunoby are so highly valued and were constantly mentioned in trade rumors. 2 way wing defenders who can guard multiple positions are hard to come by. They don't need to score 22 ppg, but they do all of the small things that in total add up to a complete TEAM. Catch and shoot 3 pointers. Hard screens. Tough defenders of the opposition's best players. These are roles that are as valuable as KD and Booker. So who is your shut down defender? Your boardman? This team will not beat Denver if you can't guard and stop people. Oh well...good luck Suns fans.
Been waiting for this vid
Rusty buckets just a suns hate channel at this point
An unstoppable team in the 90's iso era
I'd totally watch the bulls beat them in six
90s iso era? how old are you?
The bulls or rockets would sweep
@@aintpace old enough to watch NBA, you? old enough to watch just youtube 90's dunks?
The Suns defensive liabilities *really* don't make sense considering they play in the same conference as Nikola Jokic and now Victor Wembamyama.
Bingo
This isn’t Phoenix’s only move this offseason. Let’s stop the short term thinking
How do you know that? Do you work in the Pheonix Suns front office?
@@attackthem8908 it's called the off-season has barely just started lmao. FA hasn't even opened up yet 😂. agree with the OP stop thinking short term lol
What's gonna be their excuse when they lose in the 2nd round next season
This trade
@@Roihclem871 😂😂 yep
KD is an overrated shooter?
He has shot the three ball over 38.5 percent for 10 years in his career??? and over 40% for like six seasons, that’s not a great shooter?
Also, KD has shot like 50-60% from the field in his career, that’s not great shooting?? He shoots mostly midrange from twos, come on man
He said Beal blows.
@@MrSulfor he said in his video that kd is one of the most overrated shooters ever
The last few post seasons kd has missed a lot of open 3s and 2’s. He’s starting to drop off in the playoffs when he used to get better in the playoffs.
That title was a bar good on you rusty
I completely agree. Not sure how the fit and role players are going to work. You cant just go get playoff caliber players. It's not all about getting as many all NBA players on your team as possible.
Like I've said on other videos on this trade, the Suns are one injury away from missing the play-in.
2. Dbook and Kd are the kind of guys that can still get you through the regular season assuming Ayton and Beal still healthy.
This will be even worse than when the Nets traded for Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett all these years ago if Phoenix fails to win a ring next season
No it won’t
Just makes the Warriors chances for moves so much better
This is actually a good trade… they were already over the cap even if they didn’t have CP3’s contract so they would have been very limited on adding depth this offseason and even next offseason for that matter. They got a very good player for CP3, Shamet and 2nd round picks/pick swaps.
Now the Durant trade is something that they are already regretting… they gave away 2 good young players… one being very good (Mikal) and on a very team friendly contract. Also the 4 first round picks for an aging player that is still good but is about to turn 35 years old and is injury prone. They basically gutted their core and mortgaged their future just to get knocked out of the 2nd round.
They were a more complete team before the KD trade and would have had way more flexibility to improve their team and address their weaknesses.
It seems the people who hate this trade are the same people who were wrong & only wanted Beal on a team they preferred.
and people who understand basketball
They just got smaller
Tell me your a Suns fan without telling me your a Suns fan.
I cant wait for the suns to get beat in the first or second round and see KD cry because his 4th failed superteam didnt win him a ring.
I'm a Suns fan and I can't stand this trade. The team needs depth and defense, but instead we traded for a lesser Devin Booker. I like Beal but he's a terrible fit for this team.
On every championship level team, each position used to have a specific role on the team. Nowadays everyone is a hybrid scorer which sounds good on paper to team up, but there’s only one ball to work with. Denver winning this year and how they won should show you how to put a team together.
You'd think that but no😅
Do these hybrid scorers contribute much when they don’t have the ball in their hands?
The thing is that these players can all change their games slightly to make it work. D Wade talked about this post-Mavs series about playing differently to make it work. So it’s possible that what on paper isn’t complimentary becomes complimentary. It’s just not likely.
This take is beyond lazy. He doesn’t seem to understand that the Suns main issue was that they had almost no chemistry and got injured as well. They had quality players on the bench but did not know how to use them. Suns absolutely did an amazing trade everyone loves the idea of role players > bradley beal but in reality this move elevates Book and KD’s game.
Agree. They will fill out the bench by trading Ayton or maybe Vogel can help Ayton develop the way Monty couldn't. Beal allows the Suns to stagger Book and KD's minutes and always have a major scoring threat on the floor, no matter what. It's a win!
I read that the bucks were on the list of trade options, it’s crazy how he chose to rob depth from the suns than have infinite space with giannis.
Thank you Rusty. I was starting to feel like I was the only one who wasn’t moved by this trade. Not only for the exact reasons you and other TH-camrs pointed out, but also the fact that all three of those stars have a history of being injured. So they’ll be shelling out all that money to their stars and once one or two of them get hurt; they’ll be replaced by a guy who’s a vet minimum player.
Rlly? I’ve only seen bad reviews on the trade. I don’t know anyone that thought this was a good move
@@Shortballa11a lot of fans see three stars on a team and instantly start gushing over title contention.
@@Shortballa11 a lot of lakers fans (yes those dummies and I would know because I am one) are acting like it’s a great trade simply because they got Beal for pieces they were gonna give up anyway. But the thing is they don’t fit together well at all.
I think their three point % increases in total based on them shooting more catch and shoot rather than dribbling into the shot
granted Beal and Booker are semi able to generate rim pressure DBook did in the postseason so hopefully he can span that into an 82 game sample
The reason I like this trade a lot is there really was the idea that flipping Paul for depth would have been very hard already. At most they open up a mid level exception which gets you at most maybe like a Gabe Vincent. Like you pointed out they still have the opportunity to trade DeAndre Ayton to help build out their depth. No matter what happened their depth was already gonna be shot. At least now when they double one of the players or the others they can have either Beal or one of Booker or Durant in opposite corners where the ball will get swims too. Plus you get a star for basically nothing cause you would probably waive Paul for free anyways
Also the whole three point shooting will improve across the board cause all of them will now be shooting far more catch and shoot threes which are far easier shots
They turned CP3 making 30 mill and Shamet making 10 mill into Beals 50 mill contract, even if they let CP3 walk it would cost them 15 mill and they would still have Shamets 10 mill contract
Bro you failed maths?
@@kiwavy??? They would've been in cap hell regardless, the Owner has already said he doesn't care how much money he has to spend so an extra 5 mill doesn't bother him
@@willgreig4077 tru
I think they will be great, but they have to find a way to add at least one other capable role player. Now KD and Book won't have to play 40+ minutes a night, their efficiency will skyrocket, and open shots will come easier than ever before.
Cam Payne has shown to be a solid guard in the playoffs, they still keep Ayton, the free agency market should be good for them, assuming other players want to join this team for cheap. The next few months are going to be crucial, with the new rookies soon to be taking roster spots, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the suns round out this team to a satisfactory level.
Frank Vogel is going to be a great fit here, he'll help hide their weaknesses on the defensive end. With KD getting older, this was a great move by the suns, they needed to do something big to contend with the current Nuggets roster.
Crazy how like every team KDs been on since the Warriors they’ve all been like clear championship or bust team’s simply because of how ridiculously busted the rosters he’s been on have been
It's always easy to shit on everything, but, who would they have traded for to get those things you mentioned? Who was the lockdown defender they were trading CP3 and Shamet for?
They were stuck with either just waiving Paul to get 7mil to get a free agent, or get Beal and get 5mil to sign free agents
trading for names instead of fit is a crazy trend in the nba rn
We needed another shooter. We also still need depth and someone who is a solid rebounder. Suns will surprise you with what they do. The owner is the wild card. He will spend.
you've got nothing to spend with bc of the new CBA which kicks in July 1st before free agency starts. unless you trade ayton for lesser contracts, this is your team for the year
Well our off-season got right
The MLE is only removed if you go over the second apron, and I don't think that kicks in for one more year FYI. So you have to be something like 17 million over the luxury tax line before you lose your MLE (and the ability to take back more salary than you send out in trades, and the ability to sign buyout players, and I forget what else).
It's crazy u would think Beal is 35 dudes like 28
A great example is that team USA, full of stars, even if they win gold, they had a tough time against well put teams even they are full of stars.
Talents in the suns are redundant. This is a bad trade for them especially if they don't trade Ayton for depth. This off-season is the last chance to trade Ayton for depth because of the new CBA. You can't trade Ayton for an aggregate package, they can only trade him for another player in the new CBA that will be implemented next off-season. (except the MLE restrictions)
This take ages like milk
Lol we shall see soon
@@pandorum67 we shall 🫡
@@nickross4263 Wolves in 4
@@nickross4263 we did see after all, Beal is injured dogshit
They didn't learned their lesson against the Denver Nuggets.
I think a Suns to Bulls trade works. They can grab Caruso, DJJ, and maybe another role player who can help the Suns.
Suns can't even afford me at this point 😂 Ayton is a distressed asset so we have to lower our expectations on what he is worth.
In the days of ai . You cna literally just copy and paste raptor scores and all that data into chatgpt and it will tell you what type of player your team needs . If a person is making these mistakes ,leave it to ai
The suns needed russ if u really think about it a top 10 playmaker last season, great for rebounding, adds defense at least in comparison to Beal! If he performs how he did in the playoffs that could have been a good fit on the suns for Russ
AND HES WAY CHEAPER
Can they still net Russ for the Vet min? If he wants a title he could help them out. Tho I wouldn't want Book to play the 3 .
@@alexgonzales2001 or even better just trade Cp3 for Russ sign him to a 1 year vet min, keep shamet and the picks and just look towards free agency for depth
At this point in his career, Russ is not gonna make any team's championship chance better. It would be funny to see him with KD though:D
@@ozberkoz better than Beal, Westbrook knows his role and what he has to do and can still go Bum Ass Beal is inconsistent, injury prone and not a team player
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It’s crazy how Theodore from Alvin and the chipmunks knows so much about basketball
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The money sucks, but player wise, they got a 29 yr old All Star caliber player for the corpse of a 38 yr old CP3, and a guy with negative value in Landry Shamet.I'm going to let the offseason play out before I make any judgements about the Suns.Guess i'm in the extreme minority.I think Beal is a huge upgrade over CP3.He's been totally washed since the Dallas series in 2022.His slow down, half court, dribble dribble style is outdated.I actually felt like he bogged down the Suns offense at times.
Man, paying 50 million a year to a guy who will probably average 20ppg on the suns is crazy. And he got a no trade clause so have fun for the next 5 years
Well they brought in a defensive mastermind in Frank Vogel so that will definitely help the Suns defense.
But depth will be a problem for this Suns team with the entire salary cap being anchored down by 4 guys
good luck with Vogel getting them to play tough defense
I'm pretty sure the 2nd apron provisions in the new CBA procedures Phoenix from signing in season buyout guys in addition to no mid-level exception.
While I agree that Beal is not a fit with this roster I don't know that they had the flexibility to add guys in free agency. I might have that wrong but my understanding of their situation was that they didn't have the means to improve by adding crucial role players. In that context I don't completely hate the deal. They were going to jettison CP3 anyhow and they didn't really give up much draft capital. It's possible to make the case that adding Beal was the best case scenario in terms of extracting value from CPs expiring deal. To be clear I don't think Phoenix's title odds improved all that much. While this trade may not do what Phoenix hopes it does it's not an unmitigated disaster the way the Gobert trade was the second it happened.
The Suns really just pulled a Nets a few years after that disaster, but we also should remember the team Beal was coming from. As a Wizards fan, we did not have a good roster around him, and I'm excited to see what he does when hes not the primary defensive target. But I don't think that involves a championship
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Bradley Beal finessing front offices the league over.
Very Interesting perspective and trade. Maybe it's a set up for another trade down the road.