Even though my car makes less horsepower and doesn't handle as good as the 2020 I appreciate the scream from my KB2.2 cobra just a little more. Thanks for the cool video.
From 8:11 to 8:20?? How do the rotors knock against each other? I can understand thermal growth of the rotors? How does a normal supercharger live without locking itself up, without a clutched pulley? I don't think I have ever seen a blowoff or bypass pulley in the installation of a VMP supercharger?
Preston Hemmen I have one question is there a reason that mustang owners like their cars to be overly loud They want the loudest exhaust They want the thing to whine like a baby They want it to pop and backfire They want it to blow flames out the exhaust
@@crownvictorialifestyle4421 Its mostly a thing about testosterone lacking teens, it usually goes away. All the Honda and Volkswagen boys are the same, just worse sounding. Quality over Volume of sound.
@@crownvictorialifestyle4421 Answer is yes lol if you or the other person above me are trigged by exhaust /sound of a muscle car maybe you shouldn't be watching a video on it. Thank you for joining my Ted talk so the answer is yes.
Mark Bulva All good ideas but heads already CNC like the GT350. I believe they flow 5% better. That inlet between TB and rotor pack has largest bang for buck as the restriction.
Ford Australia Supercharged a 5.0 Coyote back in 2010 through to 2014 in the Falcon FPV Sedan and utility. The Supercharger was developed by Harrop Engineering and was a 1.9 litre capacity. The engines produced 315 and 335 KW with a Police special rated at 400 KW.
Another great video. Very informative. Great stuff. ;-) …. I hope Ford is listening and watching your videos, especially regarding the intercooler. ;-)
thanks Justin, I knew ford was going to step up their game to answer the call of the hellcat! this tvs looks almost like a long runner at least longer than the older shelbys.
Just one problem… The air doesn’t compress inside the rotors and then get blown out in a compressed state, it simply gets blown around the rotors and compresses upon exiting the rotors.
Leland Holton yes. It lets the rotors over-run freely so the accessory drive doesn’t take the force of trying to slow the rotors down to engine RPM on gear change.
So is that the only intercooler for this thing or is that just a second line of defense to make sure you're definitely getting cold air?? I have never seen a intercooler inside a supercharger before...
Most sit inside the intake manifold, underneath the blower discharge port... this one is kinda ass backwards, the rotors are on the bottom of the blower blowing up... Yes that’s the only intercooler, doesn’t do any good to cool the air before it gets compressed.
You state the “blow up” style supercharger is new for Ford.... wrong! Ford Australia did this back in 2010 with the Miami 5L, which was also Speed Density....
Do I get the hint that VMP is going to produce a more powerful and larger blower for the GT500? I think so! Wonder how much more power you can bump the 2020 GT500 up with just a bigger blower, bigger injectors and fuel system and other corresponding modifications that will help support each other for such high horsepower numbers.
I know people that have the new gt500 and have one on the way are kind of mad they can't hear the whine of the supercharger. I love the supercharger whine.
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No you don't know, they want to hear the engine exhaust not vacuum cleaner sound effects.
"Room for improvement..." so who is going to improve it? Modify and open the air inlet to allow more air flow already! How does this compare to the gen 5 whipple 3.0L? Is that what has been changed basically from the typical?
He said to "silence annoying supercharger noises". By a show of hands, how many say that supercharger noises are 'annoying'? Because the hellcat and redeye/demon supercharger noises says otherwise
Justin why you do everything in millimeters, why not standard sizes, where in America... Lol are you from across the pond?? Just wondering. Awesome info though..
Nice just wish that new gt 500 supercharger was as big or bigger than the gen 5 3.0 whipple in displacement so it could make like 800 wheel hp and 1000 crank
2020 gt500 check engine code p0106 usally the wrench light comes on a goes into limp mode have to turn it off wait a bit n till disappear for a bit n come again can someone pls help me???
That's a MAP sensor based code. If it's tuned, you need to contact your tuner or the speed shop that did the work to start diagnostics or if your stock, it needs to go to Ford. If you're local to New Smyrna Beach, FL we'd be happy to assist as well. Feel free to shoot us an email to sales@vmpperformance.com or give us a call at (321)206-9469 to speak with our support team.
You'll stir up a hornet's nest. Generally speaking the advantages of the roots are cost of manufacturing and the bypass. Twin screw systems are adiabatically more efficient as they actually screw the air between the rotors. Roots style "pumps" the air around the rotors and between the casing. Hence the coating he referenced. In some ways it's similar to the pump on a jet ski. If the Delrin shroud that surrounds the impeller wears, the amount of force is reduced (which is why rental skis that have been flogged almost always go much slower than new skis). Anyway, that tolerance between the casing is crucial, but also a concern because of the rotors scrape the casing they can send shavings through your motor. The solution? Something that can mate tight to the casing but not nuke the motor if it sends through. At the end of the day, twin screw is generally superior because it'll make more power with less heat (all things being equal) but they're also GENERALLY more expensive. But these latest rounds of TVS variants are up in the price range of a twin screw (which makes no sense). For guys running E85 or race fuel, the differences shrink, but for guys running 93, IATs are huge. If a twin screw can produce 10lbs of boost and do it at a noticeably lower temperature, that's going to mean a big power difference in what timing and what power output the motor can safely make. Intercooling helps, but again, apples to apples a 3cubic foot cooler will cool better on a twin screw than a roots. So in theory you can run more boost at the same temp, same boost at lower temp or whatever combo makes more power. Roots have come a long way, but just know the whole reason they're popular is because it's generally cheaper technology and machining
That 92mm TB was originally going to be an frpp performance part for the gt350 but they cancelled the whole program because of cost issues, “track key, 100mm TB also got canceled Just a cool useless info
Old news to me...worked on the development of this engine for the last 2 years. That blower design made things a pain in the ass. Many failures with them as well.
Bro vmp was killing making parts, whatever that weird deal was with whipple did horrible for vmp, designing and engineering and explaining to everyone was rare for company to do
So if I remove the panel will there be more whine? I hate that Ford simply does not want us to hear american greatness but Dodge does and ever so SLIGHTLY Chevy as well.
I personally get really annoyed with supercharger whine like you have a muscle car and it’s like “blaaaaaaaaaa snarelllllllllll growl neeee neeee neee” and then you here a whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII like NO why would you want a crying little whatever it is while your hear a savage roaring snarling v8 I hate it so I love Ford supercharged vehicles.
Great video Justin and VMP. I look forward to my next VMP blower and us both having a new GT500!
Right on! Good times are to be had!
Even though my car makes less horsepower and doesn't handle as good as the 2020 I appreciate the scream from my KB2.2 cobra just a little more. Thanks for the cool video.
Giving a Subscribe 👍 Look forward to seeing what info your putting out..Great job on this!
From 8:11 to 8:20?? How do the rotors knock against each other? I can understand thermal growth of the rotors? How does a normal supercharger live without locking itself up, without a clutched pulley? I don't think I have ever seen a blowoff or bypass pulley in the installation of a VMP supercharger?
Very nice Design and it's nice to see the use of O-rings everywhere.
Great breakdown of the supercharger an definitely room for improvements that I'm gonna do lol homemade hotrod stuff
Wow! Great upload!!
Really awesome breakdown! Can't wait to hear with the panel removed!
So can the "Acoustical Panel" be removed to make the supercharger have more whine?
Preston Hemmen I have one question is there a reason that mustang owners like their cars to be overly loud
They want the loudest exhaust
They want the thing to whine like a baby
They want it to pop and backfire
They want it to blow flames out the exhaust
crown Victoria lifestyle yes
Harold Moss yes what
@@crownvictorialifestyle4421 Its mostly a thing about testosterone lacking teens, it usually goes away. All the Honda and Volkswagen boys are the same, just worse sounding.
Quality over Volume of sound.
@@crownvictorialifestyle4421 Answer is yes lol if you or the other person above me are trigged by exhaust /sound of a muscle car maybe you shouldn't be watching a video on it. Thank you for joining my Ted talk so the answer is yes.
I see a ported blower w bigger TB, a custom intercooler cartridge with a custom lid and of course a ported manifold and heads!
Mark Bulva All good ideas but heads already CNC like the GT350. I believe they flow 5% better. That inlet between TB and rotor pack has largest bang for buck as the restriction.
We all know the factory always leaves a lil sumpin sumpin that the aftermarket can fine tune. I’m sure the heads can be made to flow more lol!
Ford Australia Supercharged a 5.0 Coyote back in 2010 through to 2014 in the Falcon FPV Sedan and utility. The Supercharger was developed by Harrop Engineering and was a 1.9 litre capacity. The engines produced 315 and 335 KW with a Police special rated at 400 KW.
Another great video. Very informative. Great stuff. ;-) …. I hope Ford is listening and watching your videos, especially regarding the intercooler. ;-)
thanks Justin, I knew ford was going to step up their game to answer the call of the hellcat! this tvs looks almost like a long runner at least longer than the older shelbys.
Awesome video Justin
Just one problem… The air doesn’t compress inside the rotors and then get blown out in a compressed state, it simply gets blown around the rotors and compresses upon exiting the rotors.
Let the porting begin!
The man himself Justin Starkey!!
Great info as usual! Will you guys be doing any videos on Odin supercharger on 2018 & up F150?
Stay tuned, more Odin info will be hitting the channel in the near future!
Man that supercharger is like another engine. That thing is huge.
Please excuse his ignorance. NO SUPERCHARGER NOISE IS ANNOYING.
the more noise the better fam
You tell that dude is not a car guy lol
Good information, good video
SWEET content!!
Doesn’t the clutched pulley help with belt longevity preventing belt slip at rapid rpm changes?
Leland Holton yes. It lets the rotors over-run freely so the accessory drive doesn’t take the force of trying to slow the rotors down to engine RPM on gear change.
Yes, though we never had an issue with belt life on the older GT500s at this power level.
So is that the only intercooler for this thing or is that just a second line of defense to make sure you're definitely getting cold air?? I have never seen a intercooler inside a supercharger before...
Most sit inside the intake manifold, underneath the blower discharge port... this one is kinda ass backwards, the rotors are on the bottom of the blower blowing up... Yes that’s the only intercooler, doesn’t do any good to cool the air before it gets compressed.
hey when you tear down engine and mod it with your parts, does that automatically void the car warranty?
Very nice and very similar to the IHI unit on the HEMIs even the Litens pulley.
Nice video, very informative!
Would love to have one on my GT350
I just changed the pulley on mine and now it produces 40 psi and 1380 hp.
You state the “blow up” style supercharger is new for Ford.... wrong! Ford Australia did this back in 2010 with the Miami 5L, which was also Speed Density....
Do I get the hint that VMP is going to produce a more powerful and larger blower for the GT500? I think so! Wonder how much more power you can bump the 2020 GT500 up with just a bigger blower, bigger injectors and fuel system and other corresponding modifications that will help support each other for such high horsepower numbers.
I read that the new gt500s supercharger is the same as the 2019 corvette zr1 supercharger, is that true???
Same rotors in a different case design
@@VMPPerformanceTV So they are still two different superchargers?
@@VMPPerformanceTV in a sense
I know people that have the new gt500 and have one on the way are kind of mad they can't hear the whine of the supercharger. I love the supercharger whine.
No you don't know, they want to hear the engine exhaust not vacuum cleaner sound effects.
"Room for improvement..." so who is going to improve it? Modify and open the air inlet to allow more air flow already! How does this compare to the gen 5 whipple 3.0L? Is that what has been changed basically from the typical?
Does the crank pulley on this engine have a keyway?
That Supercharger has 2.65 times moe Displacement than my Daily driver... Glad i got a GT in the Garage too.
Gen3r
@303StreetMachines I dont think so. Justin told me Gen3r is superior in every way street or race.
@303StreetMachines How much cheaper is a Gen2r compared to Gen3r?
@303StreetMachines Gen3r is $1500 more than Gen2r head unit. May as wekl get a Gen3r.
He said to "silence annoying supercharger noises". By a show of hands, how many say that supercharger noises are 'annoying'? Because the hellcat and redeye/demon supercharger noises says otherwise
Mr. dark man they learned from terminator and previous gt500 😂😂
Justin why you do everything in millimeters, why not standard sizes, where in America... Lol are you from across the pond?? Just wondering. Awesome info though..
Nice just wish that new gt 500 supercharger was as big or bigger than the gen 5 3.0 whipple in displacement so it could make like 800 wheel hp and 1000 crank
Are you making aftermarket kit for new Shelby gt 500 that better than fords ? Louisville Kentucky watching
Lund Racing already cracked 900+ whp today ???
Why put a supercharger on if u dont wanna hear it??😂😂I want mine to scream!!😂👌🏼
2020 gt500 check engine code p0106 usally the wrench light comes on a goes into limp mode have to turn it off wait a bit n till disappear for a bit n come again can someone pls help me???
That's a MAP sensor based code. If it's tuned, you need to contact your tuner or the speed shop that did the work to start diagnostics or if your stock, it needs to go to Ford. If you're local to New Smyrna Beach, FL we'd be happy to assist as well. Feel free to shoot us an email to sales@vmpperformance.com or give us a call at (321)206-9469 to speak with our support team.
@@VMPPerformanceTV has jlt intake but not tuned it’s either or map sensor in back of supercharger or front?
So is this better than a Whipple?
You'll stir up a hornet's nest. Generally speaking the advantages of the roots are cost of manufacturing and the bypass. Twin screw systems are adiabatically more efficient as they actually screw the air between the rotors. Roots style "pumps" the air around the rotors and between the casing. Hence the coating he referenced. In some ways it's similar to the pump on a jet ski. If the Delrin shroud that surrounds the impeller wears, the amount of force is reduced (which is why rental skis that have been flogged almost always go much slower than new skis). Anyway, that tolerance between the casing is crucial, but also a concern because of the rotors scrape the casing they can send shavings through your motor. The solution? Something that can mate tight to the casing but not nuke the motor if it sends through. At the end of the day, twin screw is generally superior because it'll make more power with less heat (all things being equal) but they're also GENERALLY more expensive. But these latest rounds of TVS variants are up in the price range of a twin screw (which makes no sense). For guys running E85 or race fuel, the differences shrink, but for guys running 93, IATs are huge. If a twin screw can produce 10lbs of boost and do it at a noticeably lower temperature, that's going to mean a big power difference in what timing and what power output the motor can safely make. Intercooling helps, but again, apples to apples a 3cubic foot cooler will cool better on a twin screw than a roots. So in theory you can run more boost at the same temp, same boost at lower temp or whatever combo makes more power. Roots have come a long way, but just know the whole reason they're popular is because it's generally cheaper technology and machining
How would u make that supercharger whine?
The best Chanel.
The best car
Masdt of more waynin sound of th s chrg?
Great video
Annoying?!?! Blasphemy!!! Love the whine of a roots or the scream of a screw!! It’s my symphony
great vid thanks
Did you guys buy a 20 gt500 and will be tearing the whole thing down? A gen 3r and a manual trans swap would sure help that grandpa car out. ;)
Cool video
Thx!
But Is It Better Than The Odin Supercharger?
Will this fit on my 2007 Equinox?
Gross
@@tylercouture216 yOLO
😂😂😂😂😂💀🔫
@@BIGKATFRED haters gunna hate
This was great
Thanks! 😀
@@VMPPerformanceTV my pleasure, I've got a baby aussie m90 on my v6, I'd love to see what you guys can do with them
Pretty much like the earlier s197 saleen blower
That 92mm TB was originally going to be an frpp performance part for the gt350 but they cancelled the whole program because of cost issues, “track key, 100mm TB also got canceled
Just a cool useless info
Neat!
Old news to me...worked on the development of this engine for the last 2 years. That blower design made things a pain in the ass. Many failures with them as well.
What the difference between this supercharger and dodge's supercharger?
What type of failures?
@@that0871 LOL not much, a former Chrysler guy now at Ford worked on this project....can you tell!?
@ rotors wearing into the case and blowing aluminum shavings through the engine....happened many times.
@@MyFriendPeter-d4k lol 💀... The bearings on the 15 hellcat would go out I wonder if this the same guy lmao
Much larger core than I thought would be there. Let’s just get rid of that mat haha.
Putting a tvs on the gt 500?
The stock blower is a TVS. Same Eaton rotor pack as VMP blower. VMP design is just more efficient.
Interesting 👍🇺🇸🔧🚘🏇🔴🇺🇸
Ohhh boy I know u about to come out with 3.65 now. 😮👀
🤷♀️
The Crapmaro zl1,1le destroyer
@Mason Elam zl1 barely beat a gt350r.
@Mason Elam stick to imports cause you dont know shit about the s550 platform😂😂😂
HotShotVQ35 😂😂😂
@Mason Elam you must be drunk, didn't you read where mike probst said FORGET THE CRAPMARO, when it came to the new GT500
Basically there's another 400hp to be made 🤔?
Yes! We'll find it soon enough
Bro vmp was killing making parts, whatever that weird deal was with whipple did horrible for vmp, designing and engineering and explaining to everyone was rare for company to do
Measurements in inches would be a lot nicer.
@coyote 5.0 Nobody cares about the outdated Imperial system, get with the times
Front feed from factory
sounds like alot of strain on that crank and extra weight
There are annoying supercharger noises?
no such thing!
Are there? 🤷♀️
So if I remove the panel will there be more whine? I hate that Ford simply does not want us to hear american greatness but Dodge does and ever so SLIGHTLY Chevy as well.
Just another reason why I canceled my order = speed density.
@Just Wryt I am guessing you meant to say your. Looks like you skipped English in high school.
@Just Wryt Can you speak English?
Joe D Welcome to the TH-cam comment section where grammar and punctuation are optional so you better get used to it.
@@CatchMeNever Just shows their lack of education.
Hmmmmm it's no secret now lol
Annoying super charger noises..... it's like heaven calling
2009 Technology used in GM Cars. 🤷🏾♀️
Who wants to take away the supercharger whine? That's weak!
I personally get really annoyed with supercharger whine like you have a muscle car and it’s like “blaaaaaaaaaa snarelllllllllll growl neeee neeee neee” and then you here a whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII like NO why would you want a crying little whatever it is while your hear a savage roaring snarling v8 I hate it so I love Ford supercharged vehicles.
clearly vmp it's doing reverse engineering. good lucky to guys make a new bets supercharger.
Basic
Clickbait LAME
Wonder why they didn’t use a Kenne Bell? Oh yeah because they suck LOL
Do they really?
great video
When you install an aftermarket pulley do you lose the clutch?
Yes, you will loose the pulley clutch.