Vanderhall Laguna - One Take
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- The Vanderhall Laguna is a Utah-built trike with an aluminum chassis, carbon fiber body, and retro-future styling. It features a 1.4L Turbocharged GM four-cylinder engine, front wheel drive, and an automatic transmission with paddle shifters. It has a removable carbon fiber roof, a well-built interior featuring nice materials, and way more brakes and tires than it will ever need.
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I feel bad for the founder for the inevitable demise of this thing...
Umad
shut the fuck up.
yea, $75 for a trike...
Once they get the few sales they will get from people with too much money with common sense sales will dry up...and this will just be another failed vehicle venture
Someone got offended lol. You must have invested in this shithole.
Trike lol good one
This is the perfect example of why it's so important to put together a strong business case and market study before blowing your life savings on a bad idea.
Two points: The new Venice model costs only $30,000. Also, the reviewer is an ass. The car has 200 horsepower, makes 200 ft/lbs of torque, and weighs only 1550 lbs. If he can't go fast in it- the problem is him, not the car.
JAMES HAY except that it's not a car, and it handles much worse than a car...
75k ? Chevy Sonic ?! FWD ??!!! Hell no ! Give me a Catheram instead thx
automatic
agreed
even the gauge cluster was chevy sonic which kills the interior.
Uh yeah. Pass.
a 620R is just as cool, costs way less and would absolutely wreck this thing... i don't see who would buy this.
I don't understand who their target market is. If it's not a "sports car" and instead a cruiser, why is it so loud?
Same reason people buy Honda's
+Yellow lmao
There is no market, they tried to create it. I get where they come from though, BMW invented the SUV coupe...
Rental companies in Florida, Los Angeles area, and Las Vegas.
+Yellow sounds like someone got embarrassed by a honda.
Yah... they're not going to sell ANY of these. Not for that price.
Hey +roadsuntraveled love your videos man!
They just need to make a detachable top for the venice. Sub 35000 for one of those would honestly not be bad. With the tunes that add 80hp and 100ftlb of torque and change the shift points, it really makes this thing a super good looking sell. I personally wont buy one until they start offering the manual again, but if they did I would give it a hard consideration.
I'm the kind of person who can find something positive in basically anything and everything.
Then there's this.
If someone is super wealthy and doesn't really care that much about driving dynamics and just wants to be seen cruising, this is definitely a possibility.
Alright good sir. I never said someone SHOULD buy it. That's the great thing about a free market. People can go buy whatever the hell they want with their money. After shooting and driving one of these, I'll never talk shit on someone who owns one because they are an interesting choice of car to go after. Yes, kinks need to be worked out and I personally would prefer a manual transmission. With that said, it's an entertaining ride. The reason why the car costs as much as it does is the insane attention to detail these guys have put into the construction of the vehicle (which Matt touched on in the review). Would I ever buy one? No. But if money isn't a problem for you in the slightest, then it's a fine car. Errrrr I mean trike.
You cant fix stupid,and you are stupid ass hell.
mindsmirror Nope,I am reffering to you.
+DuDe1040 thank you
Only a wealthy old man who doesn't know a thing about cars would buy this imo.
Exactly hahaha
But then again, Every single wealthy old man knows a lot about cars... or, at least know enough not to buy this POS.
Such a great idea spoiled by using the components off of a Sonic. The 6-speed automatic is problematic and one of the most laggy around. The Sonic drivetrain is the LAST choice I'd like to see in anything performance oriented. Oh wait, it's not supposed to be performance oriented, you're paying SEVENTY GRAND to "cruise around". Is it any coincidence you can't turn traction control off in a Sonic either? I think not. You say it's weird and different. By weird and different do you actually mean stupid and pointless?
yea seriously,its ugly and sounds like poo poo. a gm engine? straight garbage this machine is. $75000.that is robbery
+Taylor Ashworth The frustrating thing is you can actually turn the traction control all the way off in the Sonic. They could've at least tuned 50 more ponies out of the engine, and done something with the transmission for 70 grand. They're selling you half an economy car, half a motorcycle and instead of making the price meet in the middle are charging one arm and half a leg. I can't imagine the person that can justify purchasing this.
I dont get it... $75k for what? From where do they get their funding?
Mitt Romney.
Mormons
+Ricardo Villalva hahaha
Car Geeks Anonymous Ricardo Villalva It's the Joseph Smithmobile, DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM
=)
you basically get bike-car for that. This is a kit project in some countries but I also don't understand the ridiculous pricing for this? There isn't much technology to go and develop this coz it has been done too many times. $75k I can get a bnew corvette right?
you can have an Alfa 4C (weekend) and a Fiesta ST (daily) for the same price
Damn
Yeah this thing would be neat with RWD but its boutique price makes it not remotely worth it. A FWD 1.4T trike for Boxter/Z06/Hellcat money is just stupid for most people, idc how unique it is.
Exactly, you can get a used model s or m3 for that kinda money. Seems pointless to me
At $75k you're in the price bracket of a 2nd hand Ferrari 360 or 2nd hand Nissan GT-R, so someone must really have to want one of these to pass the other options up.
+Seth Christian Plenty more to add to that list. Virtually the entire used AMG/M fleet, aston martins, bentleys... the list goes on. Can't think of a compelling reason to buy this other than its uniqueness
I am so sick and tired of people bashing. Vanderhall has developed some cool looking autocycles. I would imagine nearly all of the negative critics couldn't afford one and that's why they knock it. I personally like the style, far more than the Slingshot and other 3 wheeled trikes. I've ridden motorcycles for 35 years and the Vanderhall is a great alternative to be on a motorcycle. My wife loves the idea as well... Great job Vanderhall
Yeah, 75k equalls cayman, boxster, or corvette.
75,000 for a fwd, auto, three wheeler slower than most miatas, I'll take 0!
I can't believe that they put this into production. How can they think that this will be a success? The first thing that comes to mind watching this car is "bankruptcy".
One word to describe this vehicle is "California"
I live in Cali and you are so right.
I love Matts honesty, he is never rude but always honest in his opinnions of cars which is something severely lacking in a lot of motoring journalists who pander to the marketing departments of car companies and their advertising revenue
the automotive equivalent of a fashion accessory.
What the fuck? Automatic? Front wheel drive? Looks weird as fuck? 75 fucking grand? Who the fucking fuck in the world would buy this shit?
Did anyone else from the UK think it said Vauxhall?
yah, haha
+snipeish1 Well that's who makes the engine.
Yep..
it kind of is one technically.
Yup, haha! I'm sure there's some last gen Corsa in there somewhere :P
75K For a Chevy sonic powered trike? Fuck that.
Loud, slow, front wheel drive automatic trike cobbled together with Chevy Sonic parts for 75 Grand. That Cadillac ELR ain't looking to bad now is it?
The Vanderhall Laguna starts at $50k, not 75. It is not slow, the final version is around 160 horsepower and weighs 1600 pounds. It is not blisteringly quick, but it's not slow either.
The exhaust is definitely loud though, and a little buzzy. And for my size a manual in it would be out of the question, but it is a cruiser, who needs a manual?
200 HP
That Chevy Sonic gauge cluster.
Brandon Edge Yep I watched that one the other day, lol.
Really baffling that they didn't go with Honda's K series motor for this thing. GM must be giving away this motor/trans for them to go with this combo in lieu of better options.
That's just my opinion though.
What a great honest review; thanks for not masking your true feelings without being rude! That's what makes a great auto journalist!
$75.000,front wheel drive AND looks like a dogs dinner? SUCCESS!
Not saying anything but what I'm saying - if you drop by Vanderhall's website, you can get the Vanderhall Laguna for $50K. The "Bespoke" trim, their highest level, is the one that's $77K. $27K is a lot of difference in price when comparing this thing against competitors.
You could probably rent these out in Miami and Southern California. But at that price point it's not worth it
yep.
I might not like the concept, but I admire the group of people that came together and created another vehicle for Matt to test. Even if the car/motorcycle hybrid isn't that great, at least they made something and hopefully the next one is better. Cheers to Matt and cheers to the creators!
Garbage. Why would someone spend $75,000 on this rather than a Corvette?
Ironically it is probably 60 year old+ Corvette owners with too much money and not enough taste buying this thing.
+Noah B I'm just saying that because you can get a brand new Vette for the same price.
You could get that "it just gets louder not faster" front wheel drive experience from a $1500 Civic with a sidepipe.
75k?? I'm buying a T-Rex instead...
Ok, haters, this thing need some tuning. And a muffler. Tuning the thing will make all the difference and this thing will come to life in an amazing way. It's just too cool to not be better.
can i do this mod on my chevy sonic?
Scrolling on my feed and I see that, instant click :D
I know some poor guy has poured his heart and soul into this thing, but... shit.
I'm sorry dude...
yeah, it's a designer wankfest. i'm sure some rich hairdressers will pick them up, but that's about it.
the quality of materials in this with the looks of the slingshot and the engine of the trex would be a great toy
with those glitches in the drive train the word nope comes to mind
Never thought a Chevy sonic engine would sound that awesome. Yeah it has straight pipe exhaust but still. It has a nice American growl
I'm pretty sure the problem lies in the fact that your buying a sonic and then paying for them to ruin it with a markup for a profit margin... It's a losing business model right out the gate. I'd feel bad for the creator if his problems weren't all self inflicted.
This is why you're great Matt! You say it how it is, exactly how you see it. I applaud you for that sir.
$75k? Why not get a C63 which is BOTH a sports car AND comfortable cruiser 🙄
IMO this is the best looking model in the trike market. With that being said, I would still opt for the performance and drivability of an Ariel Atom. You can tell that a lot of work went into this (99% of the people commenting have no idea on how R&D, craftsmanship, and production somehow magically affect pricing), but the Ariel Atom out does this on so many levels.
Cool concept. Just with my personal driving style I see it as a death trap.
This drive reminded me of the last time I drove a rental car.
They should add a torquey electric motor in the rear wheel to improve performance and you could chose FWD/RWD/AWD on the fly (kinda like volvo's T8 drivetrain)
best sounding chevy sonic ever.
Do more vids on your Corvette!
I really don't understand what they were trying to make. The tires, brakes, and noise level says that they were going for a sport trike. The sonic engine, auto trans, and FWD say they were going for a slow cruiser (as well as saying that's what they made). Who do they expect to even buy this thing? I couldn't see anyone buying this thing for like $75,000, and not even $25,000 to be honest.
Matt would you prefer a Mogan 3 Wheeler for the money? *BRITISH INTENSIFIES* ;)
not even a question. The Morgan is one of the most fun toys money can buy, including four-wheeled vehicles.
I live in Phoenix. On Saturday, it will be 117 degrees. I would still daily drive a Morgan.
The Venice model is $29,500. I drove one of these and they are quiet with the standard side mufflers. It's the coolest and most fun thing I have ever driven, it goes 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, and hugs the road. This guy's review was very negative and I don't know why. Test drive it and you will agree with me.
make that with the motor and transmission of the Fiesta ST and you sir have an amazing car/bike!
Excellent idea
I thought the same thing!
Looks much comfier than Morgan 3-wheelers do.
I hope this is a really early prototype.
They always use that as excuse when something goes wrong.
Their google+ says it's been through 11 iterations and 40 prototypes...f'n ridiculous.
Love my fantasy fuc
Really like the idea, LOVE the body. Give it like a Subaru Boxer or Mazda Rotary or something and drop the price by... a lot...
Matt maybe you miss heard 7.5K as 75K lmao
Unfortunately he didn't. It really does cost that much.
Calling it a "prototype" is a scapegoat for all its flaws. It is NOT a prototype. They are offering them for sale on their website right now, and claim to have already delivered one to Dubai
should have used the 2.0 ecoboost from the focus st. it would have at least had a little bit of power.
It's not the engine. The traction control is a type that actually vices the engine to reduce power to prevent wheel spin. You usually do not see a TC that works on the wheels, to sop wheel spin, except in higher end performance cars and race cars, where the rules allow.
for some reason i like it!
Awesome concept, I absolutely love the styling but the rest is disappointing.
I spoke too soon...Allow me to revise my previous post:
"...75 grand for a friggin Sonic that's deafening and missing a wheel? Seriously?"
I'm always been impressed with brands having the courage to brings cars to TheSmokingTire for him to check when he is so ruthless and I love it :) 100% honesty.
I like jay leno's knowledge of cars & car collection. But when it comes to jay leno's garage, his reviews are always good towards the automotive he is test driving
It looks awesome, that's for sure. Really nice line running along the side and down the hood. Seems to me like manual steering and a manual transmission would sure help. Lots of people in the comments section saying it's expensive, but it has a carbon body and lots of bespoke components which certainly explains the high price. FWD seems like a logical choice for a trike too. It seems to me that the rear wheel would have so much load doing the driving and managing all the rear mass is a lot of work for one tire.
It's a turbo motor and it has quad sidepipes. So the exhaust goes from four into one, through the turbo and then branches back out into four again? That's trying a bit hard.
Look again! It has quads on BOTH SIDES. I almost like how absolutely ridiculous the exhaust system is.
Since it's intended to be a cruiser, it seems fitting to be quieter. I'd like to see two people sit in this.
so $75k for a Sonic with one less wheel.
They should use GM's latest 1.6i Turbo 197bhp with manual (A16SHT).
You could sell this as a Reliant Robin.
Note to boutique car manufactures: DO NOT give cars to reviewers before they are finished. This video is all anyone is going to think about when people see them.
Hey Matt did you buy Justin Clark's GT350?
No, his car was a base car. He sold it to some dealer. He bought my skyline though ;)
+TheSmokingTire noooooo!
Idk Matt if i was you I would wait for the 2017 GT350 to start rolling of the assembly line because you get more options as standard. Either way if you get one I'd love to see a video on it. What color GT350 were you looking for BTW?
+TheSmokingTire heard you talking about selling the skyline in a podcast. congrats. gt3 incoming, I guess.
+TheSmokingTire :(...
the interior is a Chevy Sonic. That's awesome.
I recently rented a Chevy sonic for a short holiday trip. That was not an enjoyable car to drive. Now there's this. Sweet Jesus I can't believe this got any form of funding.
It's safe to say Vanderhall will be going out of business shortly
I like this thing but honestly reusing a GM steering wheel is sad. They put all the time in making a cool trike exterior/interior and took a short cut with that steering wheel.
in their defense, the steering wheel buttons actually do function and integrate with the CAN BUS
+TheSmokingTire you are right the steering wheel has all the control for the dash display and radio functions. I'm not hating on them or the Vanderhall, just my opinion it would be cool with a wooden steering wheel.
I agree, the steering wheel does look a bit out of place in a car like that, and I recognized where it was from as soon as I saw it, even with their badge replacement. But I'm sure the old men who will buy these cars won't have a clue. But they also most likely won't be able to figure out the steering wheel buttons either.
+Shwa Andary this is also true plus with the side exhaust I don't know how well you'll be able to use your hands free Bluetooth calling feature.
***** lol that is very true 😂
A 2.0L Ecotec Turbo from the HHR (FWD) would do that car wonders. Cheap, bullet proof, and easily tunable power over 300hp. I think it's a cool design, and as Matt said at the beginning; it's a prototype. His feedback and some from the non-troll folks here will help them make a cool product.
You lost me at Chevy Sonic. At first I though it was just like an uglier, more modern-looking Morgan-type thing, and anticipated a motorcycle engine and RWD. I could have been on board with that. But FWD? And the fake zoomies implying V8 power? Give me a break.
not enough grip for the real wheel
Traction control issues because the stock computer is like, "Am I missing a wheel?"
It's cool but 75k for that? Consider the level of cars you could get for that instead.
not cool and for $75K its an absolute joke. At least with the Polaris, the rear end can be excused by the fact it is relatively cheap.
The steering wheel and gauge cluster is also from the sonic.
75,000???How many other cars can you buy for 75,000?
Two used Lotus Elise, a year of gas, and tires.
It is a very good looking car/trike? But the Noise the lack of power and the traction control issues would have to worked out before production begins. Thanks for the review.
The styling is cool and.............thats about it.
that mustang is amazing
This 3 wheeler is dumb. Not fast, too loud, and too expensive.
The exhaust noise is reflecting off of the roof, a kind of amplifying effect, making it inside the drivers seat.
The Ducati and Aprilia at 7:05 confirms my theory.
Matt- I wonder if it would be as loud without the roof?
I kinda like it, but it's nearly twice the price of a Morgan 3-wheeler... nooooo dice.
I agree, and the Morgan is chock full of character.
A morgan costs 65k
I'm not sure why people think these 3 wheeled machines are good....they talk about them as if someone's made a bike better, but the truth is, they've made a car shittier. it doesn't feel like riding a bike at all, you don't get any of the same sensations at all......so you're essentially driving a car...but without windows, or a roof (on a slingshot), or luggage space, or seating space, or airbags, or bumpers/any safety at all....you still take up the same amount of garage space as a car. for the price of a slingshot you can buy a very nice used mazdaspeed miata, or s-2000, etc , and for the price of the vanderhall or the t-rex the possibilities are endless....I mean, you can get a very nice high end roadster for 70k usd. Anyone who buys this is an absolute moron!!!!!
put a mazdaspeed 3 in that thing:)
I like the style.
They should've used the Fiesta St engine and transmission... so much better
That would make this thing great. $75,000 great? Still nope, but closer than its current power plant for sure haha.
I think what happened during the development of this, is they were originally going to make it fast and sporty, but then realized they couldn't compete with the other 3-wheelers, so they had to give it a different purpose like cruising. Small production and then halfway through development needing to recreate it again, would cost a bunch and that reflects on the price.
The quality of it seems really nice though. The interior trim and carbon fiber looks nice, and the cabin looks like a nice place to be, aside from the exhaust by your ear, which feels like a remnant of when it was intended to be sporty. I wish them the best, but I just don't see the appeal. If you want a luxury cruiser, for $75k, there are so many alternatives.
This "trike" seems like a hugely disappointing let down, looks cool, looks fun to drive, looks fast, only delivers on the looks. But is it still cool looking when your getting beat uphill by a smart four2.
Pretty cool looking & light weight, that's the only thing it has going for it. Let's hope the company is able to stick around and possibly develop the vehicle further.
Even a T-Rex is cheaper at $50k.
I don't thinks it's pretty, but since I first saw it somewhere on Instagram I liked it. Problem is, as you said, it is FWD and auto. That's a perfectly fine combo for those who like driving a Corolla around, but definitely not so much for a sports/touring car/bike three wheeled thing.
The Vanderhall Laguna is a car I definitely want to like, but it just lacks something... I can't picture myself paying Porsche money for a FWD vehicle with GM interior parts - even if covered in leather -.
As someone already commented, I wish the effort for the steering wheel was the same they put into the exterior design. Just my two cents.
$75,000 for a tub with 8 exhaust ports.
Dear future car markers: If I can SAVE MONEY by buying a Porsche Cayman, you need a new business model.
I enjoy open-air motoring on my way to the country club. I like the greenskeeper to hear me arrive over the sound of his fairway mower. I store my clubs in the pro-shop. I chew on my $20 cigar until lunch time.
That's why I drive a Laguna by Vanderhall. People think it's the best.
Seems like more of a styling exercise than an engineering exercise
I find it hard to believe they had any body who knew the car market working on this project, or else they would have been screaming at all the bad decisions made on this car
ugly styling tho
If it was a car it would be beautiful and it might even be worth the price tag.
Sounds like a modded chevy 4 cylinder... bad transmission... 75k for a powerplant and transmission from a 15k car. Performance frame without performance focus. This thing makes no sense imo. Tuned or not, seems pointless. For 75k you could fuck with a 4cyl Ariel Atom.
Because it is lol, he said it's from the Sonic
paying attention doesnt actually cost anything
+mistermeff hes still right so whats your point? Fucking attention payer
Hey watching on an Amazon kindle HDX 8.9 and there is no way to watch your ads.
You lost me at $75k and 1.4L Sonic engine...
Any number of 2.0l turbo engines could have been used or even 2.4l N/A engines unless there is some regulation about engine size and vehicle categorization as a motorcycle.
The fact that it is loud and slow is a huge downside as well. Most people will tolerate loud cars if they are fast, but having to tolerate the noise and barely moving would be embarassing.
All show, and no go...
At first when he said 1.4 turbo I thought it might have been a turbo hayabusa motor, I guess not.
This video had me in my chair at work dying laughing.