Polaris didn’t wanna complete head to head because the Vanderhall would blow them out of the water. These are so beautiful and so well developed! Great work Mr. Hall!
Hey, all. I drove one today (the BlackJack version)and I cannot overemphasize how damned much fun it is! It is extremely well built (think high end motorcycle quality, not Aston Martin), comfy seat with great side bolsters, ran like a bat outta hell with power on tap at any speed and stopped quicker than any bike I think I've ever ridden. The cornering was smooth and unlike some other 3 wheelers it never made me feel like I had to throw my body into the turn to keep from tipping. I have been riding motorcycles since 1975 and until now never saw a trike that even made me consider adding it to my stable. This one does! It has fantastic handling and the design/style is classy, not starwars-ish. Will be buying by Springtime! No helmet required but for long trips I will because of the road-noise and wind sheer, but glasses are a must and (in my case) something to contain long hair. Great machine!
Own one and it is a TON of fun and drives awesome! We live in MI so it is not a long season but we sure love it when it is out. Have dealt with the company Vanderhall and they stand behind it and the support is great! We purchased ours in Sturges at the rally and drove it home and 800 miles a day and super comfortable and every care we passed it was all thumbs up and people wanting to know where we got it and that they thought it was the coolest thing they have ever seen. I am still a Harley guy but it sure is fun! All I can say is it is a very quality toy and you will love it if you have an opportunity to drive one!
Test rode/drove one yesterday. Had never heard of them until then. It was a fun car to drive. Pure toy. Only driven in the nice weather. More enjoyable than riding with a pillion on a bike (unless you don't want to talk with her). Looks better than a slingshot to me. BUT, Polaris will be around in the future. Not sure how well Vanderhall is doing. I guess since its a GM, parts and mechanics will always be around. Its a fun toy. If I had one, I'd get the base model with the paddle shifter.
Sonic engine? FWD? Automatic? First off, this version of the Sonic engine has 185 hp vs 138 and at 1300ish curb weight that's more than enough to get in trouble. FWD? I drove both the Venice and Slingshot and the fwd put down power much better than the single rear wheel. The stability inspires confidence. Automatic? The bump shifter works great for people that want to shift sequentially for themselves. I traded in a 5th gen camaro for a 2018 Venice and I have absolutely no regrets. It's like going from a Camry to a go-cart that can go 0 -60 in 4.5 seconds. Two different experiences between the Camaro and the Venice. Practical? Absolutely not but that's why I have a Silverado as my daily. Great job Vanderhall!
I love the looks because they're quite conservative. I don't want to look as though I've just touched down from Planet Zog when I pull up outside a pub. I'd like to know how big the tank is and hence the range? Also, has it got a reverse gear? But I'd really like one, I wonder how difficult (and how expensive) it would be to get UK authorities to approve it?
Thank you for the first proper review of this vehicle. I have driven both Sonic and Spark Chevrolet vehicles, glad to hear that drivetrain is in this beast and spared some weight. The two Chevy's ride, handle and have great pep for little sipper cars. The Vanderhall popped into reality right when I had a vision of the niche. I never expected the clean 60's Indy Car/Trike styling, and a few notes from the Audi TT. I was very worried because I witnessed a person consciously driving the mountain range on wheels - a Whiplash, a stretched out Can-Am was all the world had to offer. A good vid on the Vanderhall Laguna's or Venice's winter snow handling might be a good time.
I have a triumph explorer and commute 5 days a week. I have a Polaris for the weekends with my wife. She enjoys polaris more than riding behind me on the bike.
Single rear wheel drive in a three wheeler puts more of the weight behind the front wheels and will be far more unstable than this thing that puts the weight right at the front where the two wheels are. Looks kind of cool.
Well, I rode motorcycles for forty years or more. I quit riding when I was going through a lonely canyon on a cold night and realized just how much more comfortable I would be in my four wheeled transport. So, for me, this would be out of the question. Still, it's fun to watch.
@@TheHappyRiderX this looks super gross haha this literally looks like a casket with wheels....you ask 10 out of 10 women what they think looks sexier they will pick the slingshot....you might be able to pick a grandma with this haha
So the only reason you reviewed this is because Polaris blew you off and you thought this would make them jealous? Front wheel drive really is different. T-rex, morgan, sling shot all rear wheel drive.
This isn't a motorcycle, in spite of the loopholes that allow it to be registered as one. It's a minimal sports car, like a Lotus Seven. Its more up-to-date mechanicals mean that it doesn't quite have the Seven's "purity", and its FWD layout gives it somewhat different handling, but a Seven is about the closest thing to it. And those mechanicals, the auto trans and FWD, were what's available, lightweight and inexpensive.
hated the look for the first 10 seconds... 11 seconds in i love how it looks!! love power to weight ratio. i would prefer manual transmission though. great concept and would be nice addition to the garage :-)
Is the chevy the engine comes from only available in a manual transmission? I thought the 'standard' transmission on the cruze was automatic? Can you buy a manual chevy 1.4?
Wouldn't a helmet be required in this thing? It's classed as a motorcycle, so I would think so. Plus, you could cut down on wind and noise. I like that it's front drive, and it's way smaller than a Polaris Slingshot. The Polaris is 6 feet wide, but for the narrow roads around Hollywood (where I might commute), this thing is perfect and fits in the lanes nicely. It's about 2 ft. longer than a smart car, 3 feet shorter than the shortest Civic, but it's very narrow. This would also be easy to park I think. I hope it has a rear camera like the Slingshot, though I've not heard mention of it. Maybe it's easier to back it up than the Slingshot which doesn't have great rearward visibility. I rented the Slingshot and had some fun with it. Next I plan to rent this and see what's what. I commute every single day to L.A., and am considering the Vanderhall is a back-up to the bike, a way to take the girlfriend places in a way she can handle (not on the bike), a way to carry something bigger than what goes in a backpack, and for commuting in less-than-ideal weather or when it's really cold without losing use of the HOV lane. Of course the driver is still exposed to the elements, but with the body, the windscreen, helmet, heating (air and seat), it would be a huge upgrade over commuting in the few days of rain we get in CA. Plus, it wouldn't eat up too much garage space.
Hi. How is the engine noise level? I've seen the video review of the Laguna model and one of the negatives was that the engine noise was very loud. I'm curious how the Venice engine noise is. Thanks
I think it's interesting that "Polaris didn't wanna play" considering that both times I've seen this vehicle "for sale" in person it was on the showroom floor of an Indian motorcycle dealership.
I know you don't normally review cars but saying "the steering feels ok to me" isn't an accurate description of the handling. Otherwise another great review and thanks for the vid.
missed opportunity! but there is still some hope. Smaller simpler engine, bare minimum accessories, narrower tires , and a streamline canopy Make it lighter, simpler and more fuel efficient and lower the cost. It will still perform fine without the turbo (IT'S NOT A RACE CAR) I do NOT need to zip through corners
I just talk to a guy in Houston who has 1, it looks more awesome in person,,,,$30,000 , I was on my Icebear trike and was like,,,wow pure jealousy it looked and sounded so good
Can you drive this thing without a helmet, I mean technically it's a motorcycle, right? Why do all the Slingshot drivers have helmets on? What differentiates this?
I took a Slingshot for a spin last year. I can see the appeal, yet I was falsely expecting some kind of refinement. Steering ratio is too long and steering assistance is too lacking. Needs quickened up and the assist power needs increased. Foot box in the vehicle is so restrictive! It's like sleeping in a mummy sack. Gas pedal was extremely stiff. Think 5x stiffer than the average car. Breaks felt like there was zero boosting/help. You had to shove that pedal hard to get what I would even begin to call strong stopping power. Suspension was crashy, in a badly-damped sort of way. The little flyscreen would be the first thing in the bottom of a river. Made my helmeted head vibrate so badly my vision was getting blurred. Engine seemed to be well fitted for a vehicle that size and was fine, if the throttle didn't need a power-lifter's leg to use. Handling seemed strong enough. Clutch and stick shift were fine, this coming from a long-time manual-trans car driver. Polaris needs to get a lot of refinement injected into it. Stop borrowing SBS or ATV parts to power a large heavy vehicle.
Brakes on the Slingshot are TERRIBLE. Like really bad. I'm going to test the Vanderhall soon and am hoping for much better brakes (and everything else). The Slingshot is also 6 feet wide. Way too wide for the narrow Hollywood roads, parking, parallel parking, and it even takes a lot of garage space. I love the tiny size of the Vanderhall. 3 feet shorter than the shortest Civic, and about 2 feet longer than a smart car.
Remember those silver Trans Am jackets. This should come with a hat and jacket so that people know who they're dealing with when you're not driving it.
I would get this just to mess around on not to replace a motorcycle, take the lady out and just look cool. FWD and no manual are fine for that since the turbo sounds good. Women like classy things like this. The sling shot just looks too much like a plastic toy for more mature people, in my opinion.
Legally, yes. Plus, you'd probably want earplugs if you commute in this thing. I'd wear a helmet and earplugs, just like I did with the Polaris Slingshot.
I don't know California, but in Florida it really depends on you having health insurance or not. Hahaha The state does not give a heck about your life, they just don't want to pay your medical bills. So if you have health insurance, you can perfectly drive it without a Helmet :)
This thing is gorgeous but the Slingshot is still cheaper and is RWD... as someone looking to modify and actually track one of these I'd say the slingshot is the better option.
3 wheels or fewer makes it a motorcycle in CA, thus doesn't need all of the required safety elements cars are required to have, and you can use the HOV lane by yourself....legally and without the need for expiring exemption stickers (as hybrid-owners have to contend with). Plus, no range anxiety as you'd get with an electric.
@@adriansamson521 *roll bars. Hmmmm....are you sure it's not needed? A car with roll bars wouldn't require a helmet, but that's a convertible with airbags and seatbelts. This vehicle is classed as a motorcycle and does not have all of the safety requirements of a car. I think a helmet might be required in California, but I'm still looking for the final word on this.
My money would be on a used Corvette. More car for less money and you can sell it when you're done. A C5, C6. You could get one of those AND a motorcycle for 30k.
It's not a motorcycle replacer, it's an addition to motorcycles and cars, a mix between the two, and something that offers a unique experience. It's a three wheeler, and it should be looked at like one. Only car-like cars that can be compared to this are KTM XBow, Ariel Atom and Caterham. And off course all other trikes, like Morgan, Polaris etc.
I'd go to a Spyder if disability was my issue. At least you're still straddling something and the cockpit still resembles a motorcycle. It's a wheeled snowmobile basically. Of course Spyders are stupidly expensive.
I don't care what governments say, that is not a motorcycle. You sit ON a motorcycle and IN a car. Other differences, motorcycles have handle bars, cars have steering wheels. motorcycles have clutch levers, cars have clutch pedals. Motorcycles have pedal shifters, cars have stick shifts. These are some of the most obvious differences. the biggest for me is the sitting position.
It's a technical classification, not a literal one. So, if you mentioned you were going to show up in a motorcycle and showed up in a Vanderhall, a lot of people would be confused (and think you were confused). But for the purposes of HOV lane laws and vehicle requirements, this thing is classed as a motorcycle. Who cares though, right? You can take this thing in the HOV lane all day long without being stuck in some boring Prius. ;)
Vanderhall: You can use HOV lane by yourself, legally. Miata: You can't. For commuters who want a little extra wind protection with heat and some performance but without selling their souls to the drone of boring and overpriced electric cars, this is an alternative. It's also small and easy to get through tight roads, easy to park, conserves garage space, etc. Its small size is a huge feature for some. In the Miata you're sitting in CA traffic, just like everyone else. :D Pick your poison.
When Polaris bought the "Indian Name" they quit Promoting Victory. I worked for Victory's "Press Fleet" from 2001-2005. Back then, they promoted the Victory brand .That all changed with the Indian name. The CEO of Polaris said"The Indian is a better horse"[Than the Victory} I do not want "Retro" [Indian] I own a 2015 Victory 8 Ball Cross Country. The Victory 106 is one of the most reliable Motorcycle Engines ever built...
MCTeck that is because Polaris doesn't have unlimited resources. Victory was losing money, big time, so Polaris execs gave the motorcycle division an ultimatum: get profitable, or we're pulling the plug. in 2011 the opportunity to buy the Indian name presented itself. Polaris smartly seized the opportunity. While the victory bikes were mechanically superior to Harley, the American cruiser market wants 'heritage'. Trying to market 'heritage' from a brand that was created in the 90s, is a joke.
MCTeck purchasing, and starting up a new motorcycle lineup is very expensive. Obviously that meant victory was no longer going to be the sole recipient of funds, so they were placed on the back burner to get the Indian brand launched. They could have just shut down victory then; but they didn't, they tried to save it. In the end they were selling more Indians than they could keep up with, and victories we're sitting on showroom floors. I don't say any of this as a victory hater, I love Vic, and wanted my next bike to be a Magnum. But in the end it didn't make sense to keep producing a less profitable brand, when those resources could be devoted to the more profitable and better selling brand. I understand your emotional attachment to victory, but unfortunately you and I were simply in the minority. It's just business, there's no reason to be bitter towards Polaris.
"the American cruiser market wants 'heritage'" And that market is shrinking rapidly. Baby boomers are aging and getting out. Harley's are expensive and gen-x and millennials aren't that interested. The so-called heritage of Harley is cigarettes, beer, classic rock, leather fringe, women, pubs/bars, chrome, loud noises, and peacock-like bike appeal. Those heritage factors aren't loved or even understood by the millennials. Harley is having financial issues if you haven't noticed. Indian is really picking up steam, but playing the same game seems like a losing proposition when the market for this sort of thing is just dropping. I agree, Victory could have done well if Indian wasn't picked up. I think it's the egg and chicken factor.
I have not read any comments below. I stopped watching this video at 3:07 out of anger. My pet peeve is anyone touching the yellow line. You are not on a racetrack. If you can't keep you vehicle within your own lane, your riding "over your head." As a fellow motorcycle enthusiast, "Please don't do that!" I'm sure there are many inexperienced riders and drivers that will see this and leave with the impression that it is OK to do it sometimes. It is NOT OK. It is a bad practice which we all need to frown upon. It becomes a habit for many people. In fact, it is illegal which can cost you your license, or worse, someone else's life! I hope your boss calls you in on Monday to discuss this. SHARE the road!
I'm trying to find this out. I think yes, despite the roll bars. Roll bars on cars with their safety requirements and airbags are one thing, but on a motorcycle? I think legally one still would need (and want) to wear a helmet...with earplugs.
How does almost A six year old car Go for the same price as a new one don’t they devalue at all I noticed you can’t find one any less than year 2018 or 19 and they still think they’re gonna get full price for it WTF is up with that. Maybe they could do that with kids that don’t know what’s up but anybody with brains that are not smooth are not going to fall for that bull crap 🤪👍🏻✨
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Polaris didn’t wanna complete head to head because the Vanderhall would blow them out of the water.
These are so beautiful and so well developed! Great work Mr. Hall!
Hey, all. I drove one today (the BlackJack version)and I cannot overemphasize how damned much fun it is! It is extremely well built (think high end motorcycle quality, not Aston Martin), comfy seat with great side bolsters, ran like a bat outta hell with power on tap at any speed and stopped quicker than any bike I think I've ever ridden. The cornering was smooth and unlike some other 3 wheelers it never made me feel like I had to throw my body into the turn to keep from tipping. I have been riding motorcycles since 1975 and until now never saw a trike that even made me consider adding it to my stable. This one does! It has fantastic handling and the design/style is classy, not starwars-ish. Will be buying by Springtime! No helmet required but for long trips I will because of the road-noise and wind sheer, but glasses are a must and (in my case) something to contain long hair. Great machine!
Own one and it is a TON of fun and drives awesome! We live in MI so it is not a long season but we sure love it when it is out. Have dealt with the company Vanderhall and they stand behind it and the support is great! We purchased ours in Sturges at the rally and drove it home and 800 miles a day and super comfortable and every care we passed it was all thumbs up and people wanting to know where we got it and that they thought it was the coolest thing they have ever seen. I am still a Harley guy but it sure is fun! All I can say is it is a very quality toy and you will love it if you have an opportunity to drive one!
For a three wheeler it's great! I can't understand all the instant hate it gets.
I test drove one yesterday. It was a fun drive. You're not gonna want to go cross country on it, but its a fun nice weather day driver.
Its like the hate from pickup guys for the Ridgeline
Because its great and people prefer crappy overpriced trikes like the morgan, which they cant afford anyways
Why wouldn't you wanna go cross country?
ClayMation rain
Test rode/drove one yesterday. Had never heard of them until then. It was a fun car to drive. Pure toy. Only driven in the nice weather. More enjoyable than riding with a pillion on a bike (unless you don't want to talk with her). Looks better than a slingshot to me. BUT, Polaris will be around in the future. Not sure how well Vanderhall is doing. I guess since its a GM, parts and mechanics will always be around.
Its a fun toy. If I had one, I'd get the base model with the paddle shifter.
Sonic engine? FWD? Automatic?
First off, this version of the Sonic engine has 185 hp vs 138 and at 1300ish curb weight that's more than enough to get in trouble.
FWD? I drove both the Venice and Slingshot and the fwd put down power much better than the single rear wheel. The stability inspires confidence.
Automatic? The bump shifter works great for people that want to shift sequentially for themselves.
I traded in a 5th gen camaro for a 2018 Venice and I have absolutely no regrets. It's like going from a Camry to a go-cart that can go 0 -60 in 4.5 seconds. Two different experiences between the Camaro and the Venice. Practical? Absolutely not but that's why I have a Silverado as my daily.
Great job Vanderhall!
You own one?! So jealous. After stumbling upon a few videos of this thing it has officially become my goal to own one of these one day.
I love the looks because they're quite conservative. I don't want to look as though I've just touched down from Planet Zog when I pull up outside a pub. I'd like to know how big the tank is and hence the range? Also, has it got a reverse gear? But I'd really like one, I wonder how difficult (and how expensive) it would be to get UK authorities to approve it?
Thank you for the first proper review of this vehicle. I have driven both Sonic and Spark Chevrolet vehicles, glad to hear that drivetrain is in this beast and spared some weight. The two Chevy's ride, handle and have great pep for little sipper cars. The Vanderhall popped into reality right when I had a vision of the niche. I never expected the clean 60's Indy Car/Trike styling, and a few notes from the Audi TT. I was very worried because I witnessed a person consciously driving the mountain range on wheels - a Whiplash, a stretched out Can-Am was all the world had to offer. A good vid on the Vanderhall Laguna's or Venice's winter snow handling might be a good time.
love how you can hear the crash when hes talking about it lol
I have a triumph explorer and commute 5 days a week. I have a Polaris for the weekends with my wife. She enjoys polaris more than riding behind me on the bike.
Single rear wheel drive in a three wheeler puts more of the weight behind the front wheels and will be far more unstable than this thing that puts the weight right at the front where the two wheels are. Looks kind of cool.
it makes soooo much more sense physics wise for a reverse trike to be front wheel drive than rear.
I love the way it looks... good job
The Slingshot is gaudy as hell. I wouldn't feel silly riding around in a this thing though.
Well, I rode motorcycles for forty years or more. I quit riding when I was going through a lonely canyon on a cold night and realized just how much more comfortable I would be in my four wheeled transport. So, for me, this would be out of the question. Still, it's fun to watch.
I d get this over the polaris anyday...thats y they didnt wanna play
TheHappyRider I wouldn't. Automatic transmission? Front wheel drive? Yawn.
You'd rather front wheel drive and an auto? You sir are a fucking bafoon
yup, polaris is cheap plastic tomb on three wheel, u can keep it
TheHappyRider
@@TheHappyRiderX this looks super gross haha this literally looks like a casket with wheels....you ask 10 out of 10 women what they think looks sexier they will pick the slingshot....you might be able to pick a grandma with this haha
So the only reason you reviewed this is because Polaris blew you off and you thought this would make them jealous? Front wheel drive really is different. T-rex, morgan, sling shot all rear wheel drive.
This isn't a motorcycle, in spite of the loopholes that allow it to be registered as one. It's a minimal sports car, like a Lotus Seven. Its more up-to-date mechanicals mean that it doesn't quite have the Seven's "purity", and its FWD layout gives it somewhat different handling, but a Seven is about the closest thing to it. And those mechanicals, the auto trans and FWD, were what's available, lightweight and inexpensive.
awesome
Can you guys do a review of benelli motorcycles
And here I was hoping that this would be a Grace Vanderwaal video! :-)
hated the look for the first 10 seconds... 11 seconds in i love how it looks!! love power to weight ratio. i would prefer manual transmission though. great concept and would be nice addition to the garage :-)
I've watched this video 4-5 times already!! i may need one real soon!! :-)
Agreed. The automatic in something like this is a turn-off.
great
What kind of license for that?
I think it would be so much cooler if it had a standard transmission!
Is the chevy the engine comes from only available in a manual transmission? I thought the 'standard' transmission on the cruze was automatic? Can you buy a manual chevy 1.4?
@@DriftomaniacsRC Yup, the sonic came in a manual coupled to this thing engine. I do hope they make a manual option in the future.
Really good review!
Good review , had a mini so 180hp 1500lbs sounds good , i think i would swap out the tyres for something sticky.
Wouldn't a helmet be required in this thing? It's classed as a motorcycle, so I would think so. Plus, you could cut down on wind and noise.
I like that it's front drive, and it's way smaller than a Polaris Slingshot. The Polaris is 6 feet wide, but for the narrow roads around Hollywood (where I might commute), this thing is perfect and fits in the lanes nicely. It's about 2 ft. longer than a smart car, 3 feet shorter than the shortest Civic, but it's very narrow.
This would also be easy to park I think. I hope it has a rear camera like the Slingshot, though I've not heard mention of it. Maybe it's easier to back it up than the Slingshot which doesn't have great rearward visibility. I rented the Slingshot and had some fun with it. Next I plan to rent this and see what's what.
I commute every single day to L.A., and am considering the Vanderhall is a back-up to the bike, a way to take the girlfriend places in a way she can handle (not on the bike), a way to carry something bigger than what goes in a backpack, and for commuting in less-than-ideal weather or when it's really cold without losing use of the HOV lane. Of course the driver is still exposed to the elements, but with the body, the windscreen, helmet, heating (air and seat), it would be a huge upgrade over commuting in the few days of rain we get in CA. Plus, it wouldn't eat up too much garage space.
Hi. How is the engine noise level? I've seen the video review of the Laguna model and one of the negatives was that the engine noise was very loud. I'm curious how the Venice engine noise is.
Thanks
C K it is muted considerably versus the Laguna.
That thing needs to come in a manual, what are they doing..
looks great sounds awesome needs a stick
what kind of mpg are you getting
I think it's interesting that "Polaris didn't wanna play" considering that both times I've seen this vehicle "for sale" in person it was on the showroom floor of an Indian motorcycle dealership.
Awesome info!!!!
I like it. too bad we have winter here in Ohio.
good talk
Where do they get these prices? Is it built by PHDs??
I know you don't normally review cars but saying "the steering feels ok to me" isn't an accurate description of the handling. Otherwise another great review and thanks for the vid.
Messed up with it not being a stick shift
I'd much rather have a technology-packed Kia Stinger Premium for a few thousand more than this base model.
An electric version of this would be really cool.
Jensen Healey stay tuned
They make one. It's called the Edison.
I lost interest when you said it has an automatic transmission, then I completely lost interest when you said it's front wheel drive.
You expect Auto Trader or perhaps Consumer Reports to review stuff like this?
Manuals are cool, but hard downshifts can throw the rear wheel in the air. Just take a break from rowing and bowing your pelvis and cruise smooth.
Could at least get one more wheel in the back if it's fwd
You're a fool if you think a single rear wheel driving a three wheeler is a good idea. It the only good configuration for these reverse trikes.
The front drive makes the most sense rather than one wheel pushing.
Can it come. In right hand uk
not really my cup of tea. but it does look cool...hey you guys planning on a 1k shootout anytime soon???
But can you drift with it?
is there any roof option?
Ryan Sandi late 2017 it should be released.
missed opportunity! but there is still some hope. Smaller simpler engine, bare minimum accessories, narrower tires , and a streamline canopy
Make it lighter, simpler and more fuel efficient and lower the cost. It will still perform fine without the turbo (IT'S NOT A RACE CAR) I do NOT need to zip through corners
I just talk to a guy in Houston who has 1, it looks more awesome in person,,,,$30,000 , I was on my Icebear trike and was like,,,wow pure jealousy it looked and sounded so good
Can you drive this thing without a helmet, I mean technically it's a motorcycle, right? Why do all the Slingshot drivers have helmets on? What differentiates this?
I was driving my old bentley with the hood down
I had my crash helmet on and got hit with a bolt off a truck
One T-bone from lights out.
but will it wheelie?
I took a Slingshot for a spin last year. I can see the appeal, yet I was falsely expecting some kind of refinement.
Steering ratio is too long and steering assistance is too lacking. Needs quickened up and the assist power needs increased.
Foot box in the vehicle is so restrictive! It's like sleeping in a mummy sack.
Gas pedal was extremely stiff. Think 5x stiffer than the average car.
Breaks felt like there was zero boosting/help. You had to shove that pedal hard to get what I would even begin to call strong stopping power.
Suspension was crashy, in a badly-damped sort of way.
The little flyscreen would be the first thing in the bottom of a river.
Made my helmeted head vibrate so badly my vision was getting blurred.
Engine seemed to be well fitted for a vehicle that size and was fine, if the throttle didn't need a power-lifter's leg to use.
Handling seemed strong enough.
Clutch and stick shift were fine, this coming from a long-time manual-trans car driver.
Polaris needs to get a lot of refinement injected into it. Stop borrowing SBS or ATV parts to power a large heavy vehicle.
Brakes on the Slingshot are TERRIBLE. Like really bad. I'm going to test the Vanderhall soon and am hoping for much better brakes (and everything else). The Slingshot is also 6 feet wide. Way too wide for the narrow Hollywood roads, parking, parallel parking, and it even takes a lot of garage space. I love the tiny size of the Vanderhall. 3 feet shorter than the shortest Civic, and about 2 feet longer than a smart car.
spacep0d I was blown away how well the Vanderhall drove compared to the Slingshot. SS shook with all the plastic and the brakes were scary bad!
Remember those silver Trans Am jackets. This should come with a hat and jacket so that people know who they're dealing with when you're not driving it.
No way in hell this gets 1G on the skidpad... That is corvette Z51 package territory
I would get this just to mess around on not to replace a motorcycle, take the lady out and just look cool. FWD and no manual are fine for that since the turbo sounds good. Women like classy things like this. The sling shot just looks too much like a plastic toy for more mature people, in my opinion.
I like that its half car and half Trike But its front wheel drive.
don't you have to werar a helmet on a 'motorcycle' ?
Legally, yes. Plus, you'd probably want earplugs if you commute in this thing. I'd wear a helmet and earplugs, just like I did with the Polaris Slingshot.
@@spacep0d I think it depends on roll bars and state laws.
I don't know California, but in Florida it really depends on you having health insurance or not. Hahaha
The state does not give a heck about your life, they just don't want to pay your medical bills. So if you have health insurance, you can perfectly drive it without a Helmet :)
This thing is gorgeous but the Slingshot is still cheaper and is RWD... as someone looking to modify and actually track one of these I'd say the slingshot is the better option.
Make a manual transmission version and I'll consider it. Leave the pansy paddle to the Gen Xers.
If it is a motorcycle, should i wear a helmet???
i like the edison better.
Please stop crossing the center line!
but it have steering wheel right how is became a motorcycle
3 wheels or fewer makes it a motorcycle in CA, thus doesn't need all of the required safety elements cars are required to have, and you can use the HOV lane by yourself....legally and without the need for expiring exemption stickers (as hybrid-owners have to contend with). Plus, no range anxiety as you'd get with an electric.
Exquisite! 👌⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
think they will ever race 3 wheelers
I think that would be kool, like these vs Campagna T-Rex.
its no GM motor its a FIAT 1.4 TURBO MOTOR,thats why runs so well,,european motor,,GM belongs to GRUPO FIAT,
Mechanically a Chevy Cruse less one wheel.
27.5k with manual trans? ;)
If it's a motorcycle...where is your helmet young man?
Q Bert not needed it has role bars
@@adriansamson521 *roll bars. Hmmmm....are you sure it's not needed? A car with roll bars wouldn't require a helmet, but that's a convertible with airbags and seatbelts. This vehicle is classed as a motorcycle and does not have all of the safety requirements of a car. I think a helmet might be required in California, but I'm still looking for the final word on this.
I can get a whole miata for 30000
ur missing the point lol
And you'd be stuck in traffic while Vanderhalls whiz by in the HOV lane...legally. ;)
@@spacep0d But on any non HOV roads you will be stuck in traffic like everyone else. Still cooler than miata though.
ya but a Miata can't get from 0-60 in 4.5 sec and like come on man it's not like a Miata is a whole lot bigger
For that price I would get a Mustang. :)
I heard "automatic transmission" and immediately lost interest.
Merica
Why not give your customers an optional manual transmission... very disappointing! Therefore, I'd never buy a Vanderhall...
It has that option... there is a manual mode with a separate shifter on some models.
My money would be on a used Corvette. More car for less money and you can sell it when you're done. A C5, C6. You could get one of those AND a motorcycle for 30k.
Would any motorbike rider consider swapping their bike for that thing? Only a disability would persuade me.
I'd rather have a real roadster, if I hit my head hard enough I'd think about it till I came to my senses.
So, don't make it an "instead of", make it an "in addition to" a motorcycle(s).....
It's not a motorcycle replacer, it's an addition to motorcycles and cars, a mix between the two, and something that offers a unique experience. It's a three wheeler, and it should be looked at like one. Only car-like cars that can be compared to this are KTM XBow, Ariel Atom and Caterham. And off course all other trikes, like Morgan, Polaris etc.
You are not thinking like a real biker....You can always buy more, no need to swap.
I'd go to a Spyder if disability was my issue. At least you're still straddling something and the cockpit still resembles a motorcycle. It's a wheeled snowmobile basically. Of course Spyders are stupidly expensive.
Needs a manual transmission and rear wheel drive
oh teo why you goin so hard
a front wheel drive "motorcycle"
C'mon California its not a motorcycle the Vanderhall has a steering wheel, it's a there wheeled car.
Polaris didn't want to play, ……… wonder why
If is a motorcycle. Where your helmet?
Campagna T. rex allll day
I don't care what governments say, that is not a motorcycle. You sit ON a motorcycle and IN a car. Other differences, motorcycles have handle bars, cars have steering wheels. motorcycles have clutch levers, cars have clutch pedals. Motorcycles have pedal shifters, cars have stick shifts. These are some of the most obvious differences. the biggest for me is the sitting position.
Cars only have 4 or more wheels. 3 - Trike. 2 - Bike. 1...well...who knows...but 4 and a frame is a car, anything less isn't.
It's a technical classification, not a literal one. So, if you mentioned you were going to show up in a motorcycle and showed up in a Vanderhall, a lot of people would be confused (and think you were confused). But for the purposes of HOV lane laws and vehicle requirements, this thing is classed as a motorcycle.
Who cares though, right? You can take this thing in the HOV lane all day long without being stuck in some boring Prius. ;)
wait, so it's a $30k, front wheel drive, and it's an automatic? Why would you not buy a Miata for that kind of money?
Vanderhall: You can use HOV lane by yourself, legally.
Miata: You can't.
For commuters who want a little extra wind protection with heat and some performance but without selling their souls to the drone of boring and overpriced electric cars, this is an alternative. It's also small and easy to get through tight roads, easy to park, conserves garage space, etc. Its small size is a huge feature for some.
In the Miata you're sitting in CA traffic, just like everyone else. :D Pick your poison.
looks like they copied the campagna v13r
Automatic??? FWD???? GM motor???? 🤢
Glad to see Vanderhall competing with Polaris . FUK Polaris..What they Did To Victory Motorcycles...
MCTeck they didn't shut down Victory, the consumer shut down Vic with a lack of sales.
When Polaris bought the "Indian Name" they quit Promoting Victory. I worked for Victory's "Press Fleet" from 2001-2005. Back then, they promoted the Victory brand .That all changed with the Indian name. The CEO of Polaris said"The Indian is a better horse"[Than the Victory} I do not want "Retro" [Indian] I own a 2015 Victory 8 Ball Cross Country. The Victory 106 is one of the most reliable Motorcycle Engines ever built...
MCTeck that is because Polaris doesn't have unlimited resources. Victory was losing money, big time, so Polaris execs gave the motorcycle division an ultimatum: get profitable, or we're pulling the plug. in 2011 the opportunity to buy the Indian name presented itself. Polaris smartly seized the opportunity. While the victory bikes were mechanically superior to Harley, the American cruiser market wants 'heritage'. Trying to market 'heritage' from a brand that was created in the 90s, is a joke.
MCTeck purchasing, and starting up a new motorcycle lineup is very expensive. Obviously that meant victory was no longer going to be the sole recipient of funds, so they were placed on the back burner to get the Indian brand launched. They could have just shut down victory then; but they didn't, they tried to save it. In the end they were selling more Indians than they could keep up with, and victories we're sitting on showroom floors. I don't say any of this as a victory hater, I love Vic, and wanted my next bike to be a Magnum. But in the end it didn't make sense to keep producing a less profitable brand, when those resources could be devoted to the more profitable and better selling brand. I understand your emotional attachment to victory, but unfortunately you and I were simply in the minority. It's just business, there's no reason to be bitter towards Polaris.
"the American cruiser market wants 'heritage'"
And that market is shrinking rapidly. Baby boomers are aging and getting out. Harley's are expensive and gen-x and millennials aren't that interested. The so-called heritage of Harley is cigarettes, beer, classic rock, leather fringe, women, pubs/bars, chrome, loud noises, and peacock-like bike appeal. Those heritage factors aren't loved or even understood by the millennials. Harley is having financial issues if you haven't noticed. Indian is really picking up steam, but playing the same game seems like a losing proposition when the market for this sort of thing is just dropping.
I agree, Victory could have done well if Indian wasn't picked up. I think it's the egg and chicken factor.
youtube is favoring car videos for ad $... everyone is doing it eye.. the secret is out lol
I have not read any comments below. I stopped watching this video at 3:07 out of anger. My pet peeve is anyone touching the yellow line. You are not on a racetrack. If you can't keep you vehicle within your own lane, your riding "over your head." As a fellow motorcycle enthusiast, "Please don't do that!" I'm sure there are many inexperienced riders and drivers that will see this and leave with the impression that it is OK to do it sometimes. It is NOT OK. It is a bad practice which we all need to frown upon. It becomes a habit for many people. In fact, it is illegal which can cost you your license, or worse, someone else's life! I hope your boss calls you in on Monday to discuss this. SHARE the road!
Crazy money for what your getting do they wear a Balaclava when they are fucking robbing you ?
It's got one wheel too many.
Yeah, but if you get rid of the one extra wheel the bottom just drags along the road and makes sparks.
If it's considered a motorcycle... Do you need a motorcycle helmet?
I'm trying to find this out. I think yes, despite the roll bars. Roll bars on cars with their safety requirements and airbags are one thing, but on a motorcycle? I think legally one still would need (and want) to wear a helmet...with earplugs.
we want this beauty in India
Saw some beautiful tattoo chick driving one . Had to look it up
CAMPAGNA T-rex #1
Automatic and front wheel drive? No thanks.
they are just doing it wrong.. so wrong. ill show them all. all wheel drive and it will LEAN
How does almost A six year old car Go for the same price as a new one don’t they devalue at all I noticed you can’t find one any less than year 2018 or 19 and they still think they’re gonna get full price for it WTF is up with that. Maybe they could do that with kids that don’t know what’s up but anybody with brains that are not smooth are not going to fall for that bull crap 🤪👍🏻✨
Well he certainly likes the sound of his own voice!