I'll go with 5! This was a disaster from day 1. He might be a good middle of the road coach but when you hire from the lower tiers this is what can happen. I want someone that can win. Don't care who it is.
There was a lot of hate for Rich Rodriguez for the manner in which he left West Virginia ( to take the head coaching job at Michigan). I can't see the AD hiring him again which may bring backlash from the alumni, donors and the media who haven't forgotten.
WVU fan here, I’m right there with you on the “re-tred” idea. Texas A&M was awful, Rich Rod isn’t the coach he was before. Im in for Kotelnicki if they could persuade him. Bad thing is though, if he’s successful, he will be plucked.
Why are you suggesting they might make the wrong hire? What do you know that we don't? Just because someone's name is mentioned doesn't mean they are being considered for the job.
Wren should have never had extended the contract when he got there and fired him. Tgats why we go after him sec is different then big 12 which is not a power house anymore. Rich Rod coming back is a no not ever. Penn St OC is a huge yes for me. Because of what you just said.
@@ThatGuyz82 That WV Mindset is why the state is almost last in everything. RR gave them the most winning and national attention the WVU FB ever had. Most do not realize he was run out by the Governor ( Manchin) at the time and most do not know or understand that about RR. Best hire WVU could do at this time. JIMBO would be a disaster but WVU has a habit of shooting their foot off and JIMBO would be another.
@@pitchshot2868 he did great... against terrible competition with players he did not pick to start, but was forced to when his lesser picks were injured. It is tiresome listening to people like you talk up the old days with the traitor as if he actually did anything at all.
@@ThatGuyz82 RR only had the best ever of WVU football . Nothing has come close since he left. WVU had National Attention and even you WV people liked the attention and WV was losing the hillbilly image they had forever. TRAITOR and that mindset is why WV is almost last in everything. ENJOY you deserve it.
Well, we were told to "Trust the Climb" Somehow after 6 years and Brown's record 35-37, the clime was stationary. We had talent, just seemed Brown always made excuses for his coaching, play calling, and the defense. Saw the last game with Texas Tech, I don't think they ever punted, and we never blitz the QB once.
As a WVU fan, i don't want a retread either. Remember when PITT tried to bring Johnny Majors back. Disaster. I want hungry, young coach with some P4 experience under a successful program.
Agree! As a Mountaineer fan I don’t want to see Jimbo Fisher, Rich Rodriquez, or Barry Odom. Hope they’re searching for a more defensive minded head coach who will then hire a solid Offensive Coordinator. There are some Power4 coordinators who are primed for their first head coaching job and can bring a fresh, new and exciting brand of football to Morgantown. Hope that’s what they’re looking for!
Jimbo didn't win a Natty; Jameis Winston did. Jimbo won a Natty like Mac Brown did with Vince Young. Saban was right to call out Jimbo in that he was buying players during his time at A&M.
@@Mburns9 and like Mac Brown, Jimbo was one and done. Winston and Young were both phenoms that willed their teams into winning. Berry Manilow could have been their coaches, and guess what .. Berry Manilow would have a Natty...
Glad Wren is going to make the hire and not our fans. No one cares who you don’t like or who hurt your feelings. We are quite a… different fanbase lmao
SEC only plays 8 SEC games. All other conferences plays 9 conference games. So Sec has almost 4 guaranteed low level wins and needs 2 wins to be bowl eligible. So bowl eligible SEC teams are NOT the equal of other conferences difficulty.
We are all armchair quarterbacks when it comes down to brass tacks. Wren will vet all these candidates and the candidate that shines through will get the job, whoever it is. I dont want a nice guy, i want someone who will instill discipline and a never quit attitude in their players. Whoever has those traits is who i support.
I check in with you regularly, John. WVU doesn't seem to be one of the B12 teams that ignites your passions. Fair enough, but we long ago earned our reputation for commitment to our programs. We're tired of the dawdling and expect a major upgrade by AD Wren Baker.
I always question why schools pick retreads. They couldn’t hack it at their last school but somehow it will be different by changing locations. Texas and Georgia are doing well with their retread coaches though, so what do I know.
People in WV will hate this BUT Rich Rod was the BEST Coach WV had in decades and thanks to Then Gov Manchin and the inept leadership at WVU they ran him off to Mich. unlike what most believe WVU should have NEVER Hired Brown ever and should have NEVER went to the Big 12 and never hired Holgorsen WVU should have stayed on the East Coast and a conference like the AAC WVU does to much travelling and now with added teams, it makes that travel worse BUT, since they are there, they MUST hire a coach with a HUGE Rep who can actually recruit Real players who will transfer to WVU because of that coach and their reputation . This Time, IF WVU is going to have a sports program they spend the money to make it a REAL competitive one , otherwise they may as well just stop the sports program as a whole !!!
Due to college football becoming, for all intents and purposes, a "pro" sport WVU cannot compete with the elite universities. WVU has pretty much always been a second tier program with a good record every ten years or so. With the advent of NIL it will always fill the same slot in college football, good team on occasion middle of the pack the majority of the time. By the way, I am a native West Virginian.
1:33 they were ranked in the coaches last year which I put 10X the stock in over media biases. Either way Neal Browns fate was sealed by getting blown out last week
Rich Rod wins! He won at WVU. He won at Arizona and he would have won st UM had they given him more time and his teams always play with a hard edge which is what we need back in the WVU football program.
Bullshit! A lot of Mountaineer fans hate Rich Rod and consider him a traitor! What has he done since he left WVU? If he is so great why hasn’t he been considered for any other big school coaching jobs? Piss on Rich!
If rich rod or fisher takes the wvu job and has success in a two year span they will move on to a bigger fish fry history repeats it's self theas guys are chasing a doller they treat it like a business get what you can get while you can
Im gonna trust in wren baker on his choice. If you look at woman’s basketball hire and the men’s. He’s been great. So I’m gonna trust in baker to make the right decision. I don’t want jimbo fisher either I hear he’s an asshole is that true idk. And I’m not against rich rod. But new fresh coach with determination would be great. Ex’s are ex’s keep it that way my opinion.
Trust me, a majority of WVU fans, like myself, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES want DickRod to come back. He is the reason for the darkest day in Mountaineer history. If they bring him back, I will still attend the games, but under protest. Much of Rod's success was due to the last three years of his tenure having a once in a generation backfield with White-Slaton-Schmitt. He has been mediocre at best literally any other year as a head coach.
As far as Jimbo goes there are certian schools that have all the money in the world but are still tough places to win. I get the feeling all that money came with alot if fingers on the pot mucking things up. I still think Jimbos an upgrade who may want to stay after the Texas Tech experience. Andy Kotelnicki is on track to a big 10/sec coach. If he has any succes at WVU he leaves immediately for the first better offer.
To be clear there's only a small subset of fans calling for Jimbo or Rich rod. It's a lot of speculation from the bleachers many of us don't want either of these guys I don't have an opinion on Jimbo I won't be angry with Richard but I think maybe they can do better how about the Western Kentucky head coach
Hey John...Looking like the Big XII and FSU would be good fits. Due to their debacle this year they are now recruiting like most of the Big XII! LOL It will be several years before FSU recovers and I personally can't see it happening till they fire the coach. All of last years good will is GONE and he now has a losing record against the ACC and for all the talent FSU is used to landing that is just ludicrous. Agree that WVU needed to fire Brown if for no other reason than the fan base has lost any good will toward him. Sometimes its just better to move on so the fan base has HOPE if nothing else. Not sure if Okie State shouldn't do likewise. Still can't fathom how bad that team could be this year.
All those Aggie alumni better start ponying up and grow that NIL money if they want to compete with the Longhorns.Texas can be the next dynasty. It has the boosters and alumni money, the city and culture, the arrogance. Players throughout the SEC states want to play there over Bama, A&M, etc.
Jimbo had the best recruiting classes in the country. He was in the SEC with Saban. Anyone not named Kirby Smart in the SEC must be trash to. Dude you are to condescending to listen to.
As a WVU fan I agree with your takes on Rich Rod and Jimbo 100%. Im really hoping for Kotelnicki. He's proven he can turn a program around and do so quickly.
Jimbo is who we want. Alot of differences between Jimbo Coaching and Shaq Playing at Old Ages. An older Coach can Succeed. An older Basketball Player can't. We don't want someone from a Weak Conference that has done well like Neal Brown came from. We might as well keep Neal Brown according to your Picks. Jimbo can turn things around real quick at WVU. And Jimbo is a Mountaineer.
I don't care who they hire as long as they can win and build a strong program. NIL is killing college sports. These guys were already getting paid by having a free education, books, room & board, food, healthcare, clothing, travel and other things. If these guys are to be paid to play then they should have to pay tuition, room & board, food, clothing, healthcare etc. but that being said it's hard to win with no money in a small market. So here's the question. Do we want a retread or a young guy that will use us as a stepping stone and moves on in 2-4 years? Tough call. What we definitely do not want is another Neal Brown. He made the mediocrity of the Don Nehlen years look like the good old days.
We need a West Virginia coach that has pride and a passion for the state. Jimbo is absolutely what we need. It's a West Virginia thing. We have always been on our own. If we get Coach Fisher... we can just be a bunch of football rejects. Lol. Atleast we'd have our team and probably surprise some people.
It is not like Neil Brown had great pride either there were some high talented West Virginia homegrown talent that was leaving the state even with him here
The more research I do, the more I like Kotelnicki. I also like the idea of Glen Schuman from UGA
Think they are both better than RR. But if successful will leave for more $$ in B10 and SEC. For me I'd rather have RR as would stay if successful.
Agree with you Couz on Kotelnicki. I was greatly impressed by a preseason Penn State presser he did. Smart, task master for sure.
@@CouzsCornerSports i agree
We (WVU) wanted a new coach 2 years ago
5
I'll go with 5! This was a disaster from day 1. He might be a good middle of the road coach but when you hire from the lower tiers this is what can happen. I want someone that can win. Don't care who it is.
There was a lot of hate for Rich Rodriguez for the manner in which he left West Virginia ( to take the head coaching job at Michigan). I can't see the AD hiring him again which may bring backlash from the alumni, donors and the media who haven't forgotten.
WVU fan here, I’m right there with you on the “re-tred” idea. Texas A&M was awful, Rich Rod isn’t the coach he was before. Im in for Kotelnicki if they could persuade him. Bad thing is though, if he’s successful, he will be plucked.
I’d like to see a young coach like Campbell at Iowa State- you can see on his face how much he hates to lose. We need that kind of fire.
Why are you suggesting they might make the wrong hire? What do you know that we don't? Just because someone's name is mentioned doesn't mean they are being considered for the job.
Wren should have never had extended the contract when he got there and fired him.
Tgats why we go after him sec is different then big 12 which is not a power house anymore.
Rich Rod coming back is a no not ever.
Penn St OC is a huge yes for me. Because of what you just said.
As a WVU fan, I am 100% with you. I do not want Dick Rod, or Jumbo fisher.
People outside of West Virginia do not understand the disdain held for Rich Rod.
Too many inside WV don't understand either.
@@ThatGuyz82 That WV Mindset is why the state is almost last in everything. RR gave them the most winning and national attention the WVU FB ever had. Most do not realize he was run out by the Governor ( Manchin) at the time and most do not know or understand that about RR. Best hire WVU could do at this time. JIMBO would be a disaster but WVU has a habit of shooting their foot off and JIMBO would be another.
Eh I think a lot of us have gotten over it. I never really hated him for leaving, anyway.
@@pitchshot2868 he did great... against terrible competition with players he did not pick to start, but was forced to when his lesser picks were injured.
It is tiresome listening to people like you talk up the old days with the traitor as if he actually did anything at all.
@@ThatGuyz82 RR only had the best ever of WVU football . Nothing has come close since he left. WVU had National Attention and even you WV people liked the attention and WV was losing the hillbilly image they had forever. TRAITOR and that mindset is why WV is almost last in everything. ENJOY you deserve it.
Well, we were told to "Trust the Climb" Somehow after 6 years and Brown's record 35-37, the clime was stationary. We had talent, just seemed Brown always made excuses for his coaching, play calling, and the defense. Saw the last game with Texas Tech, I don't think they ever punted, and we never blitz the QB once.
As a WVU fan, i don't want a retread either. Remember when PITT tried to bring Johnny Majors back. Disaster. I want hungry, young coach with some P4 experience under a successful program.
You might as well keep Neal Brown then. We need an experienced Power 5 Coach like Jimbo who is a Proven Winner.
@@jebbthetrainkid1281when? 2013?
Bill snyder
@@josephdimarzo8244is he still alive lol
@@jebbthetrainkid1281 huh? Brown had six years, time to move on guy.
good growth by you John chopping up live stream into a series of videos.
Agree! As a Mountaineer fan I don’t want to see Jimbo Fisher, Rich Rodriquez, or Barry Odom. Hope they’re searching for a more defensive minded head coach who will then hire a solid Offensive Coordinator. There are some Power4 coordinators who are primed for their first head coaching job and can bring a fresh, new and exciting brand of football to Morgantown. Hope that’s what they’re looking for!
Doesn't get more defensive minded than Odom.
I heard Neal Brown was not fired because he had another job working for Florida State as a coordinator.
@@dfausti66 he doesn't have a job at WVU anymore so wtf are you saying here?
Good thing Kurtz isnt in charge of making decisions at WVU athletic department. I mean you’re knocking Jimbo because A&M is dumb with money?!
Jimbo didn't win a Natty; Jameis Winston did. Jimbo won a Natty like Mac Brown did with Vince Young. Saban was right to call out Jimbo in that he was buying players during his time at A&M.
@ Jimbo didn’t win the natty but his quarterback he recruited on his team did. Didn’t that feel like a dumb response when you were typing that?
@@Mburns9 and like Mac Brown, Jimbo was one and done. Winston and Young were both phenoms that willed their teams into winning. Berry Manilow could have been their coaches, and guess what .. Berry Manilow would have a Natty...
@@George-Kliavkoff4Big12 I really don't understand your logic here. So nobody else on the team won a natty? Jameis did it all by himself huh?
@@George-Kliavkoff4Big12 you say one and done like winning a natty is an easy thing to do. You're ridiculous.
Glad Wren is going to make the hire and not our fans. No one cares who you don’t like or who hurt your feelings. We are quite a… different fanbase lmao
SEC only plays 8 SEC games. All other conferences plays 9 conference games. So Sec has almost 4 guaranteed low level wins and needs 2 wins to be bowl eligible. So bowl eligible SEC teams are NOT the equal of other conferences difficulty.
Kotelnicki is overrated. PSU still sucks offensively.
Wanting Kotelnicki personally.
No oc we want a PROVEN coach
@@NealBrownnBeers him or chadwell from liberty
Definitely worth a look
@@georgeedwards5468 who is that exactly?
Chadwell might be good
What has A&M done before Jimbo?
The coach before him had almost the exact same record.
RC slocum got them to 10 wins on numerous occasions. But yeah, I get your sentiment.
West Virginia needs to spend the money to get a good coach. NIL money
I think WVU should go defensive minded coach like Glenn Schumann
Been saying SCHUMANN for weeks now!
All your doing is trying to get views off wvu… get lost
We are all armchair quarterbacks when it comes down to brass tacks. Wren will vet all these candidates and the candidate that shines through will get the job, whoever it is. I dont want a nice guy, i want someone who will instill discipline and a never quit attitude in their players. Whoever has those traits is who i support.
Got to go younger or high profile recruiting is everything
Not very many want those 3. Andy Kotelnicki is BY FAR the best fit for this job
If you want shallow, surface level, analysis with no context this is the show for you.
@matthewlucas4142 What? John goes extremely deep on a bunch of things. Is this your first time watching this show? He's successful for a reason.
I couldn't agree more!
And yet here you are...
@brettallen1440 We all need someone to laugh at! 😅🤣😂
@@brettallen1440 We all need someone to laugh at. 😅🤣😂
I check in with you regularly, John. WVU doesn't seem to be one of the B12 teams that ignites your passions. Fair enough, but we long ago earned our reputation for commitment to our programs. We're tired of the dawdling and expect a major upgrade by AD Wren Baker.
I always question why schools pick retreads. They couldn’t hack it at their last school but somehow it will be different by changing locations. Texas and Georgia are doing well with their retread coaches though, so what do I know.
Georgia is a retread? You might want to do some more research.
@ I swore Kirby didn’t do well at a different SEC school before he went to Georgia. I must have mixed him up with someone else.
Sometimes a re-tread is better than a no-tread like Neal Brownholio.
I don’t get the desire to bring back Rich Rod, he did such a pathetic job at Arizona, and before that Michigan.
It is healthier to move on from the past yes some of the issue is always bringing up nehlin too
People in WV will hate this BUT Rich Rod was the BEST Coach WV had in decades and thanks to Then Gov Manchin and the inept leadership at WVU they ran him off to Mich. unlike what most believe
WVU should have NEVER Hired Brown ever and should have NEVER went to the Big 12 and never hired Holgorsen
WVU should have stayed on the East Coast and a conference like the AAC
WVU does to much travelling and now with added teams, it makes that travel worse
BUT, since they are there, they MUST hire a coach with a HUGE Rep who can actually recruit Real players who will transfer to WVU because of that coach and their reputation .
This Time, IF WVU is going to have a sports program they spend the money to make it a REAL competitive one , otherwise they may as well just stop the sports program as a whole !!!
Chadwell from Liberty should be the next Coach
Big 12 needs to jettison WV
Due to college football becoming, for all intents and purposes, a "pro" sport WVU cannot compete with the elite universities. WVU has pretty much always been a second tier program with a good record every ten years or so. With the advent of NIL it will always fill the same slot in college football, good team on occasion middle of the pack the majority of the time. By the way, I am a native West Virginian.
1:33 they were ranked in the coaches last year which I put 10X the stock in over media biases. Either way Neal Browns fate was sealed by getting blown out last week
Glenn Schumann is the next WVU coach.
Rich Rod wins! He won at WVU. He won at Arizona and he would have won st UM had they given him more time and his teams always play with a hard edge which is what we need back in the WVU football program.
In Rod We Trust!
Bullshit! A lot of Mountaineer fans hate Rich Rod and consider him a traitor! What has he done since he left WVU? If he is so great why hasn’t he been considered for any other big school coaching jobs? Piss on Rich!
@billslonaker9000 He's coming
If rich rod or fisher takes the wvu job and has success in a two year span they will move on to a bigger fish fry history repeats it's self theas guys are chasing a doller they treat it like a business get what you can get while you can
Gotta git em dollers 😂
Rich Rod will rule the big 12
Im gonna trust in wren baker on his choice. If you look at woman’s basketball hire and the men’s. He’s been great. So I’m gonna trust in baker to make the right decision. I don’t want jimbo fisher either I hear he’s an asshole is that true idk. And I’m not against rich rod. But new fresh coach with determination would be great. Ex’s are ex’s keep it that way my opinion.
Trust me, a majority of WVU fans, like myself, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES want DickRod to come back. He is the reason for the darkest day in Mountaineer history. If they bring him back, I will still attend the games, but under protest. Much of Rod's success was due to the last three years of his tenure having a once in a generation backfield with White-Slaton-Schmitt. He has been mediocre at best literally any other year as a head coach.
As far as Jimbo goes there are certian schools that have all the money in the world but are still tough places to win. I get the feeling all that money came with alot if fingers on the pot mucking things up. I still think Jimbos an upgrade who may want to stay after the Texas Tech experience. Andy Kotelnicki is on track to a big 10/sec coach. If he has any succes at WVU he leaves immediately for the first better offer.
You're not crushing my dreams about Rich rod. But you are crushing the hearts of fans who do want to live in the past. That is psychotic anyway.
Spencer Danielson, HC at Boise St
Neal Brown was NEVER the right coach for WVU football. He should have fired after 2nd season of 'trust the climb' BS.
Please go after Ryan Day WVU. Give him a offer he can’t refuse
BYU can donate their OC…. just saying, Utah State wants him, but if they act fast, maybe…. Who knows?
You can keep him. 😂
Dawson is a HARD no … been there done that
Jimbo, bilachek, saban
What's Rich Rod up to?
To be clear there's only a small subset of fans calling for Jimbo or Rich rod. It's a lot of speculation from the bleachers many of us don't want either of these guys I don't have an opinion on Jimbo I won't be angry with Richard but I think maybe they can do better how about the Western Kentucky head coach
Hey John...Looking like the Big XII and FSU would be good fits. Due to their debacle this year they are now recruiting like most of the Big XII! LOL It will be several years before FSU recovers and I personally can't see it happening till they fire the coach. All of last years good will is GONE and he now has a losing record against the ACC and for all the talent FSU is used to landing that is just ludicrous. Agree that WVU needed to fire Brown if for no other reason than the fan base has lost any good will toward him. Sometimes its just better to move on so the fan base has HOPE if nothing else. Not sure if Okie State shouldn't do likewise. Still can't fathom how bad that team could be this year.
FSU+UCONN to the BIG12 seems good from the perspective of this relative outsider.
Rich Rod yes
All those Aggie alumni better start ponying up and grow that NIL money if they want to compete with the Longhorns.Texas can be the next dynasty. It has the boosters and alumni money, the city and culture, the arrogance. Players throughout the SEC states want to play there over Bama, A&M, etc.
Are there any African Americans to be considered for head coach?
Trust the Fail
Jimbo had the best recruiting classes in the country. He was in the SEC with Saban. Anyone not named Kirby Smart in the SEC must be trash to. Dude you are to condescending to listen to.
Jimbo had great recruiting classes, but then he'd lose them all the next year
As a WVU fan I agree with your takes on Rich Rod and Jimbo 100%. Im really hoping for Kotelnicki. He's proven he can turn a program around and do so quickly.
What program did he turn around?
He turns a teams offense around. (Kansas and Penn st)
@williammeeks1283 yea, you're right. I should have worded that differently. What are your feelings on AK?
There's gonna be names everywhere, but I think a lot of WVU fans will trust WVU Legend Wren Baker's decision.
No Rich Rod, please. He is not welcome.
Bring on Rich Rod. He has never lost his passion to Win. A solid coach
Nope…..A big NOPE!
A big mistake he had his c h a nice he could still could of been here but we were not good enough and for more money.
Huff (Marshall) should be a top candidate for WVU
Bring back Rich Rod
No way
Did you take your wife back after she cheated on you?
Rich Rod shouldn't even be allowed to set foot on campus let alone coach the team.
Jimbo is who we want. Alot of differences between Jimbo Coaching and Shaq Playing at Old Ages. An older Coach can Succeed. An older Basketball Player can't. We don't want someone from a Weak Conference that has done well like Neal Brown came from. We might as well keep Neal Brown according to your Picks. Jimbo can turn things around real quick at WVU. And Jimbo is a Mountaineer.
No way
@@ChristopherWest-hc3nroh good point you must be pretty smart guy to see jimbos resume and think WVU is too good for Jimbo
I don't care who they hire as long as they can win and build a strong program. NIL is killing college sports. These guys were already getting paid by having a free education, books, room & board, food, healthcare, clothing, travel and other things. If these guys are to be paid to play then they should have to pay tuition, room & board, food, clothing, healthcare etc. but that being said it's hard to win with no money in a small market. So here's the question. Do we want a retread or a young guy that will use us as a stepping stone and moves on in 2-4 years? Tough call. What we definitely do not want is another Neal Brown. He made the mediocrity of the Don Nehlen years look like the good old days.
We need a West Virginia coach that has pride and a passion for the state. Jimbo is absolutely what we need. It's a West Virginia thing. We have always been on our own. If we get Coach Fisher... we can just be a bunch of football rejects. Lol. Atleast we'd have our team and probably surprise some people.
It is not like Neil Brown had great pride either there were some high talented West Virginia homegrown talent that was leaving the state even with him here