I've been asking to build this deck for over a year, but everyone in all my multiple playgroups thinks that this will make games "anti-climactic". I respectfully disagree, but I'm still working on changing their minds.
As a side note, for Celestial Convergence, you have to wait until your upkeep even if you have Solemnity out. The card checks for having no counters as part of the upkeep trigger, not a static effect. Edit: Solemnity + Divine Intervention does not work, since DI checks for the removal of the last counter rather than just having no counters
pretty sure solemnity doesnt work with divine intervention. solemnity does not remove the counters, the counters won't be added in the first place... unless i dont understand replacement effects correctly.
I have a group hug deck that aims to make everyone draw alot of cards, get a ton of mana, play alot of cards. But also aims to make no one win or lose the game. With Divine Intervention as the finnisher of the deck.
Probably more like, his thrulls are trying to overthrow him/kill him, and he's just locked up inside the Assault Suit, safe and trapped, like... 'now what?'
I believe The Sporemound / Life and Limb combo won't go infinite, because Sporemound says "when" not "as," so the saproling is created after the land enters play. Life and Limb then makes it a forest, but at this point it is not a "land entering play." Only if Sporemound said "as a land enters", would the combo go infinite. I think that's right... I'm not a rules expert. We need a snug ruling. Snug! PS Great video. It's fascinating to think about where you can take this concept.
"Alright, so you have indestructible creatures with toughness endlessly falling, you have a card endlessly unable to transform, and you're infinitely creating dino tokens... My turn?"
Yeah I think it'd be fair for the other players to say that the person with both halves of the interminable combo just loses the game instead of making it a draw.
The world gorger dragon/animate dead combo isn't a draw if any opponents have a creature in their graveyard too. Also this combo gives you infinite mana and etb triggers so be careful not to win by mistake. XD
I've been asking to build this deck for over a year, but everyone in all my multiple playgroups thinks that this will make games "anti-climactic". I respectfully disagree, but I'm still working on changing their minds.
I've already stopped winning games of mtg. But I'll watch the video anyway.
As a side note, for Celestial Convergence, you have to wait until your upkeep even if you have Solemnity out. The card checks for having no counters as part of the upkeep trigger, not a static effect.
Edit: Solemnity + Divine Intervention does not work, since DI checks for the removal of the last counter rather than just having no counters
pretty sure solemnity doesnt work with divine intervention. solemnity does not remove the counters, the counters won't be added in the first place... unless i dont understand replacement effects correctly.
@ Damn you right, I jumped to conclusions.
I have a group hug deck that aims to make everyone draw alot of cards, get a ton of mana, play alot of cards. But also aims to make no one win or lose the game. With Divine Intervention as the finnisher of the deck.
I like to think that Endrek Sahr is arguing with an assault suit
Probably more like, his thrulls are trying to overthrow him/kill him, and he's just locked up inside the Assault Suit, safe and trapped, like... 'now what?'
It amazes me the difference between the response here and the response on reddit lol sweet deck Dave keep up the good work!
Pretty sure “Everyone Lose” means,
Everyone lose….
-doesn’t count as a draw 😅
I love the helm and wheel combo because you activate it and just say "and now all of our library go BBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRR" 😂😂😂😂😂 that's awesome
since it's one card at a time, wouldn't the table also get to learn the exact order of that player's deck?
I believe The Sporemound / Life and Limb combo won't go infinite, because Sporemound says "when" not "as," so the saproling is created after the land enters play. Life and Limb then makes it a forest, but at this point it is not a "land entering play." Only if Sporemound said "as a land enters", would the combo go infinite.
I think that's right... I'm not a rules expert. We need a snug ruling. Snug!
PS Great video. It's fascinating to think about where you can take this concept.
Hmm need further research...
@@8thPlaceDave it works, the way you said it.
I had this deck idea too but yours is much better put together
I guessed that Lich's Mirror would be in this deck!
"Alright, so you have indestructible creatures with toughness endlessly falling, you have a card endlessly unable to transform, and you're infinitely creating dino tokens... My turn?"
Nobodies turn xD
Yeah I think it'd be fair for the other players to say that the person with both halves of the interminable combo just loses the game instead of making it a draw.
Didn't the Can't be sacrificed just stiffles the trigger to sacrifice it? Or is it a static ability thing which causes it to draw?
It's a static ability.
if I ever want to spend 1000€ on not winning games of magic the gathering I'm going to start playing vintage
very fun video though!
The world gorger dragon/animate dead combo isn't a draw if any opponents have a creature in their graveyard too. Also this combo gives you infinite mana and etb triggers so be careful not to win by mistake. XD
Personally I'd sit the game out if someone played this deck. We all draw doesn't mean they win, it means they intentionally wasted everyone's time.
clones and tokens can flip now, garruk isnt an infinite loop anymore
D:
Tokens can. I'm pretty sure clones still can't.
Yes!
just fireball for 160 damage its so simple
Nice