im getting the impression some people only read the title/didn't watch till the end and don't understand that i actually WANT these games to succeed no one likes marvel rivals spiderman more than me. he's mine. now go follow my stream.
@tenyearsinthejoint1 how is it clickbate the vid is called all these games are going to die and he list all the games that are most likely to die but at the end he gives his opinion saying he doesn't want them to die but he thinks they are going to die how is that clickbate
Simple math. Those games make money out of skins, the more characters a player has access to, the higher the chance of them buying a skin, because they already have access to the character that skin was made to. The money they will make out of ppl paying for characters is nothing compared to the money they make from skins.
The finals didn’t die. And if it did, it certainly wasn’t because of cosmetics. People left because of bad decisions on game modes and ranked play. It’s still getting ~15k players (not including console players)
10k players being considered dead is crazy to me, the games not dead till I cant play and its not like the finals or other games take longer than a minute to find a match
@@PenguinULT there's a thing in the gaming community right now calling games "dead" as soon as the smallest setback happens and it doesn't pull Fortnite numbers. it's literally the all-or-nothing mentality
@@h2woah127 correct. People never take into account for console until recently with the finals anyway. Which according to the devs it’s like 250,000 - 300,000 daily players.
If The Finals dies imma crash out, it's really do love that game TBH. I know "micro transactions bad" but they're so inoffensive and genuinely good that it's no issue. The battlepass feels like good progression, and once I beat it early I still play for the loop and for the fun moments with The Boys.
This guy just said the game was dead because it has micro transactions which most other games have a form of that. Then also his reason was because we don’t know the dev team. That makes no sense. Embark is a new studio so the way they make it to the top is by making games!
@@GrouchyGrizz and it's a well known fact that most of the dev team of finals is people who developed battlefield 1 but then left cus of the direction ea was taking dice.
marvel rivals cooked so hard with all the maps and 33 heroes of the BAT, just some balancing and performance fixes and boom. OW now has a fellow "rival"
I feel you on balancing, i played competitive and won a match got 50 points, played 5 more matches lost all of those matches to overpowered characters. Lost all my points.
Not to be the guy who defends companies but the info in The Finals bit is just flatout wrong, people interested in the game keep just seeing this hate-bait content The game launched with 3 maps (Monaco, Seoul, Vegas) and since then got one map per season (SYS$HORIZON, Kyoto) and a new one is about to begin with a new one, speculated to be Rome for the *6th map.* One map per season is reasonable (they're not small maps and each of them have a bunch of gameplay/terrain and weather variants the game mixes from) It did launch with 2 gamemodes, (Cashout and Bank-it), and there are *5 unique ones now* (not counting ranked-unranked variants as separate); World Tour (new name for Cashout tournaments with a leaderboard) Terminal Attack (ranked and unranked version) Quick Cash Bank-It Power Shift, + not to mention limited time gamemode variants. The game isn't "dead"- it just lost the initial hype from when every youtuber made a video on it, but since then it has had a steadily okay playerbase. Would you call Helldivers 2 dead? It took a bigger dip in popularity %-wise in player count.
The criticism on skins is kinda valid as the team went on vacation recently actual content slowed down this season, but you cannot say that their monetization is predatory. You can earn enough currency to buy the Battle Passes as a completely f2p player in under 3 seasons (in 2 seasons if you invite one friend through a referral link), and each season gets you almost twice as much of that currency as you need to buy the next one. You can also buy items from bundles separately (e.g you only want the hat from a skin, you can buy just the hat for like 20% of the whole bundle's price).
@@strvmpet also a very valid point. At least the original VAs are paid for their voice samples the synthetised voice is trained on, that is what kept me from leaving the game but i dont appreciate the ai voice in itself either yeah
@@strvmpethighly, highly doubt anyone dropped the game due to ai voices. the truth is that most people don’t care for that issue one bit. ESPECIALLY not the type of people who play a competitive shooter like the finals. Also @PeterPq , slight clarification on your maps point, the game launched with 4 maps, you missed skyway stadium. the next map will be the game’s 7th map
@@noahhill841 Some ppl I invited were also like you. Their invites never arrived no matter what they did. The only thing that worked was making brand new steam acc.
When he said the finals and deadlock he is coping… the finals is a good game as he said but the content you can help giving ideas if you care about the game, the new weapons came from the community, meanwhile deadlock is unique in his type and it is building a disgusting (I hate dota/lol) fans because they love that type of game with shooters so..: they are not gonna be dead
Also dead games means it stop receiving updates at the point it may be shut it down and/or you can’t see the game unique that make you wish it still living… Like rainbow six or for honor… you don’t want them fail cause they are unique
(Didn't see this till now) The entire point of this video is that I'm showing some of my favorite multiplayer games that I DON'T want to see die. I think the reality is that there's people like you who become numb to the ill decisions developers make and will defend their every move without question. If you truly liked these games, you would be willing to admit their faults and criticize what's wrong with them to see them reach greater heights. That is the entire point of the video and many people have missed that entirely (Most likely because they didn't watch the entire thing or just read the title and immediately rushed to write a comment.)
So rivals announced that all characters will be free on launch and whenever released post-launch too so I mean I’m optimistic just hope for more game modes and maps but I’m sure they will have some good maps and modes
The only thing I’m worried about is that we once again , like all other ftp games, won’t be getting anything for progression. I got two free skins which was neat but I’m looking and they don’t even have the broke man’s battlepass 😖 I don’t mind spending money on this game cause it’s fire but the money a little to tight at the moment ;-;
Your take on the finals is terrible. One because their cosmetics are crazy good and the most fair priced compared to any other game. Also 6 maps, many variants, and 5+ modes depending on how you look at it. We all want it to succeed and theres still a large playerbase
@@JoepoeeeTbf, The Finals would be an S-tier game if they relaxed on their SBMM matchmaking system. Its, at times, WORSE then COD. Ive been matched against 3 stack emerald players pretty much every single quick cash game while my teammates and I arent even ranked players. SBMM in casual needs to go, then Ill say The Finals is S-tier.
How are free to play games supposed to stay up if they can’t make any kind of money…? Battle passes and cosmetics shops are usually the way to go. Sometimes they suck. Sometimes they don’t. It’s a mixed bag
your marvel rivals take aged horribly, 33 characters free to play on launch, 8 maps, 1 conquest map, absolutely brilliant cosmetics, they have already planned out content for next year, basically, full of content
1:07 5 Modes 6 Maps is the actual number. Don't know why we are pulling arbitary numbers with zero research. the game launched with 4 maps at least you got that correct but it also launched with 4 modes. "They make sure the cosmetics are updated once every 5 minutes" it's free to play.... how do you think they make their money? Not to mention the cosmetics are of vastly superior quality than any other game on the market and I and 99% of the finals player base will stand by that.
5 instead of 6 maps - My mistake. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I was off by one and if you google it, it literally says 5 (at least when I looked). You can't possibly look at someone being off by one singular digit and criticize the entire video for being poorly researched, that's blatantly unfair. "Cosmetics being updated updated every 5 minutes" - I don't know how someone could take that literally. You actually think that I believe the shop is updated every 5 literal minutes? I don't know how I could have made it more obvious it was hyperbole. Superior quality cosmetics - Yeah they're pretty good, not the best but that's purely opinionated, which you're more than welcome to have. I don't mean to sound rude, I always try to accept valid criticism, but this just seems like nitpicking. Nontheless, I still do appreciate it.
@@Its_Toko I think you are not being critic and use a lot of passive agressive to defend yourself... They indeed need to make money with the cosmetics and weekly they bring a lot of changes in the gameplay, balance and more... Thats why anyone could tell this video is effortless and its just another yt video about "dead games" instead of doing something useful Pd: the cosmetics of the finals are the best I have seen of any free to play game 🤷 (it okey u have your opinion)
@Its_Toko I agree with Battery here. This game is far superior than any other fps game in a LONG TIME and it just ticks me off how you just blatantly assume that just because they add skins and animations every week, means that they are money grabbing game devs. MOFO they work QUALITY, not QUANTITY. Do some better research next time, dumbo.
@@joaquinschwarz6327 (Sorry, didn't see this reply till now) If I came off as passive aggressive, I apologize, but you need to understand that it's frustrating when a sizeable amount of people *completely miss the entire point of the video.* The point of the video (as said near the very beginning) is that I WANT these games to succeed and I think these developers make the same foolish mistakes over and over again. Not to be rude, but you're the exact type of person I'm talking about. You just defined this video as "just another yt video about 'dead games'" when that is quite literally the furthest thing from the truth and anyone who actually watched the entire thing would know that. I know for a fact you didn't watch the entire thing. You most likely just read the title, perhaps skipped to one game you recognize, and then went to the comments. Many people read the bold title and did the very same thing and left comments that completely miss the entire main idea that I am on their side! I also want these games to succeed! The difference is that I'm willing to criticize what I think they could be doing better rather than just blindly accepting every decision these developers make. This blind following is also what leads to people being extremely eager to point out extremely small faults in the video such as me missing one singular map and mode. Such a small mistake literally changes nothing, but many people use it to try and discredit what I'm saying because they cannot tolerate criticism of something they like. Anyone who went to the comments to immediately defend their favorite game found in the video has completely missed the entire point OF the video. I apologize if that sounds rude, but it is true. I am always open to criticism and often times actively seek it out, but I will not accept it from those who very obviously did not watch the video itself. If someone DISAGREES with my critics towards these games, that is completely fine. But if someone blindly defends their favorite game without even acknowledging the fact that I want to see the game succeed too? (because again... that's the whole point of the video) than I cannot help but think they didn't actually watch the video.
@@Its_Toko That's like saying a music artist is dead because they have 12K streams like it's not dead it's just under rated so people need to stop saying that the finals is dead it has Players just not like cod amounts but it's not dead it's under rated if the music artist has streams then they're not dead same with the finals and another thing the finals didn't try to be like these other fps games because In the finals you compete for MONEY you don't just shoot people like cod Apex X defiant or Rainbow six siege the finals is different every game fps game doesn't have to be a clone of the other fps games for it to be popular that's what I like about embark (the developers) they actually put time and thought about the objective and purpose of the finals unlike cod or (Activision) where they just make clones of the same game and make you buy it....
The Finals is literally the most fun shooter out there right now alongside Marvel Rivals (but they're both very different, which is nice) and it's so frustrating to not see them at the top of the industry rn. And they actually have some of the coolest cosmetics I've ever seen for a game (especially the weapon skins).
I can't say for the rest of the games. But 2XKO is gonna be a hit. It might be "dead' by other games standards, but all fighting games have a sharp decline pretty quick. Particularly ones made with characters from non FGC series. Yeah, we're gonna probably see hundreds of thousands of people try 2XKO for a couple weeks, but then people will realize its still a fighting game, and then probably stay around 20-30k daily players for the future, so "dead" by you're definition, but probably still top 3 of FGs up with Street Fighter 6.
THE FINALS is probably the best game out there. Its such a perfect fps game paired with cosmetics and a niche spread of weapons. Plus its nowhere near dead.
I dont think the Finals is dead because they can still fix it in season 4 and the Game itself has an estimated 280,000 unique players per day across all platforms
Here to happily announce that marvel rivals is the GOAT. Already guaranteed 5 or something characters coming soon, new maps already, all characters are free to play at launch AND the r34 is about to pop off. What more do you want?
Hum really? I already quitting at this point, basically every game that I start to like basically just die. My last one if dies for good, then will just get into single players, already fed up at this point.
Bro was VERY wrong about Marvel Rivals. The game has a lot of players rn, and its actually very fun. Its not looking like its gonna die anytime soon. The devs cooked fr. 💯💯
@@Elion-c8t it will die, but not very fast. i give it like 3 years before its playerbase on steam drops below 25k a day, then it will get shut down near its 10th anniversary
With all do respect boss man Toko I think this video was pretty poorly explained and was straight up wrong in many areas. I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that "All these games are going to die" and then have most of the games you talk about be ones that aren't even out yet. Like brother only 2 games on here are actually released and 2 others (2XKO & Deadlock) you say are probably not going to die (???). It's weird cause at the beginning you say "We see this time and time again" but then you don't show any examples of games that have, in the literal sense, died. You were even just flat out wrong about Marvel Rivals locking characters behind a paywall, meaning another point for your argument is just straight up dookie. It feels like two different videos were stitched together. One about how bad monetization is in LS games, and the other about fast modern games die out. The only point you made that applied to both of these was really multiversus, everything else was either one category or neither (cause they aint even out yet). IK you value criticism (W) which is why I felt the need to make this long ahh cringe ahh comment.
Nah you must be stupid as hell. I understood the point he was making. He's saying if games continue with the monetization practices that they do it's not hard to see the game will die in less than a year. It's not that hard to get we don't need examples this year has been full of them. This video was solid you just have too smooth a brain to not see the patterns.
I've never heard anyone complain about the cosmetics in the finals, and even if you want to say its dead its not for that reason. (plus I think they try to add new weapons before maps and modes, they are trying to fix the current modes right now so they aren't going to make new ones soon)
look at this guy's face.... anything thats not getting fortnite numbers is considered dead to him. That or he just wants to grab your attention and engagement bait
I would have to disagree with the 100k-10k idea because like look at achievement percentages on some games, people download games then barely get past the opening realising they're not for them, those stats don't mean a games dead it just means it found it's player base.
Bro like half the shit you say is wrong in this video, the finals has 7 maps with new weapons, gadgets and specialities every season, and marvels rivals litteraly announces days ago that all hero's would be free. At least try to do your research lmfao
Valve are the kings of making games last forever and those fuckers run their live service games on stale cereal and vibes. The game could be over run with cheaters and bots spamming slurs in chat with no content update in sight and it would crack 50k concurant players consistently. For christ sake the top game on steam right now is a rushed buggy broken mess of a game released by Valve a year too early with basically no anti-cheat. How the Hell do these guys get away with it?
Ok good argument... Artifact, dota underlords. I'm a deadlock crack addict who already played for 100 hours but valve did fuck up twice before. First with artifact being a pay to play PvP card game (worse decision ever made) and dota underlords that was just outperformed by Dota autochess (the mod it was based on)
Bro Said Splitgate 1 Is Worse Than 2, Bro Unironically Said SG1 Was Boring, Must Be One Of The Ones That Quit During Beta And Didn't Come Back, There's Enough Sh*t To Make A Career Outta It, Bro Is Criticizing Free To Play As Cashgrabs When SG1 Only Had Cosmetics As Buyable Items
Having fully watched the video, I think I'm gonna stop buying micro currencies. He actually makes a pretty good point about how it makes you want to buy more and more.
Its a business brother why wouldnt they not? If people stop buyin then the game can maintain itself. Thats how sad things like this works. Side note. I love how people are talking about skins in other games but in Valorant bundles they do be eating it raw, guess streamer glazing does work after all. Good move by RIOT.
Extremely wrong on both 2XKO & Deadlock, 2X is heavily awaited due to the FGC being in a bit of a mess (some people hate T8/SF6) and people like Max have sung it's praises, it'll be #3 behind those two and it's not even a debate. Then, Deadlock has 100k+ with a janky invite system, it fills shooter & a moba which will be fine
cant help but think if these games just priced themselves accordingly they would actually make MORE money than by just killing it off rip by having the monetization of satan
the most a skin in a game should be is like 10 bucks imo and even then ik some will say that’s too high. but in comparison to the 20, 50, or hell 500 dollar cosmetics I feel like we should’ve drawn a line a far longer time ago
@@deadhelix Skins should not be monetized, period. It's nonsensical, selling textures and jpegs at exorbitant prices, manipulating the weak minded because these "cosmetics" represent "status" in a imaginary world. I really think the governments worldwide should step in and regulate this industry, even sugar is regulated, but you can sell "cosmetics" and slot machines to children?
I get the want for paid game with proper progression, but having a paywall to a game makes it way harder to get into and cycle in new players. Spectre would be more likely to die as a paid game when valorant would be a free alternative thats had years to grow and the riot name behind it, vs it being free and not hurt to try leading to more exposure and actually having people seeing if they like it than writing it off. Everyone said that battlebit was way better than the newest battlefield yet it has lower player count than bf 2042
My main worries about Marvel Rivals are the maps, game modes and performance optimizations. They are going to have such an easy time with character additions compared to other games who have to create brand new ones.
Just going to put this here cause people keep saying the finals is dead or dying....no "less than 15k on steamcharts tho" This game is majority a console playerbase, yes its weird, turning off crossplay makes ques go to 5 min turning it on gives matches almost instantly. Devs have also "said" that the game has never gone below 500k at the mid point of season 2, 4 months later whether or not that's still the case rn is up for debate. As for the content being mostly skins, well its f2p so obvs, but the finals is that 1 game mode in the game. Its why a majority of the playerbase threw a fit the moment they changed ranked to a bad rainbow six mode saying "It wasnt the finals." I'm all for new gamemodes but those don't determine if a game lives or dies, league has been on the same map for over a decade with tiny changes. (Ik Toko wants these games to succeed this was just an fyi cause its a common misconception that this game is unpopular or dead...Its not.)
Watching the marvel rivals segment (I'm aware that this video came out two months ago, and you're probably aware of this). I am happy to say that they said all characters up to Capt America and Winter Soldier will be playable and free on launch.
I was worried you were going to put deadlock as a dead aftwr one month there. With how polished it already is in early access, and how many people are playing and talking about it just from a share link early access. I foresee a HUGE shift in people leaving overwatch, and TF2, and going to Deadlock. Because its a game that's finally done something different, it gave a hero shooter lanes and dota denies, item shop, no passive income, you get only what you deserve. I might be glazing, but I think Deadlock has a very very bright future. If they do cosmetics like with dota that you can buy and sell on marketplace as well. It's going to be top tier money making like Dota as well
The finals really had potential.. there was just a huge problem with cheating and that scared a majority of the player base away. Also not to mention with Fortnite being as popular as it is it’s so difficult for any other game to get off the ground. Crazy I was bored and sick of Fortnite after the first chapter. Guess people like dying to sweats that build the Empire State Building in 0.8 seconds when you fire one shot at them.
@Elion-c8t ya don't know that lol, this game continues its track plus give new updates and game modes I see this game lasting as long if not longer than that mid game Overwatch
@@luthergames6930 Overwatch is garbage but Overwatch isn't going anywhere bro 💀 Rivals on the other hand is the DEFINITION of a trend game. It'll be gone before u know it
@Elion-c8t really? I'm pretty sure no one gonna abandon the game, I'm addicted to it, plus all heroes going forward are free? I'm sorry but it ain't just a trend game it's a competitor
@@luthergames6930 Lets dial it back to that, how is the game supposed to survive if all the characters are free 🤡 Notice how rare it is to see skins? They're gonna start being scummier and scummier (or the game will get lower and lower till they just shut it down!)
You summoned all the finals glazers with this vid😭 can’t say much as a Splitgate fan but I can acknowledge that the game dies and only hope sg2 does well
Bro called The Finals dead just cause game owned regular audience and not in hype train anymore. Same thing happened to Apex and Helldivers 2, that got crazy online on release, and then just lost all random players looking for the fun game for a month, but they aren't in your list
By the way there are games that are free that are good they just die after a while because they either don't add new content or the devs just abandoned them and the other thing is there are some free games that can have progression and also have options to pay money most development teams nowadays don't really care they just want the money which is a real disappointment
marvel rivals is basically an OW competitor actually so yea ow wont die not being a shill or a crybaby but ow wont die coz we all know the real ow killer is ow itself but yea marvel rivals will be cookin that OW
im getting the impression some people only read the title/didn't watch till the end and don't understand that i actually WANT these games to succeed
no one likes marvel rivals spiderman more than me. he's mine.
now go follow my stream.
lmao yeah dps doom in marvel rivals is cool, wish I could play it (haven't tried the beta)
@tenyearsinthejoint1 how is it clickbate the vid is called all these games are going to die and he list all the games that are most likely to die but at the end he gives his opinion saying he doesn't want them to die but he thinks they are going to die how is that clickbate
You should research what deep rock Galactic is. It’s like the perfect game
Make your titles what the video is actually about and people won't comment before watching. Simple
Bro says he wants this games to succeed and then miss informs on their content to make them look worse than they are
All Marvel Rivals characters are free from launch and beyond.
Oh that's FATTTT. Very good to hear, I love Marvel Rivals. Apologies for not hearing about this sooner.
@@Its_Toko what do you mean you dont hear about it?
@@themanager10yearsago29 he didn't follow the news
Simple math. Those games make money out of skins, the more characters a player has access to, the higher the chance of them buying a skin, because they already have access to the character that skin was made to. The money they will make out of ppl paying for characters is nothing compared to the money they make from skins.
Yeah and they plan on adding more characters soon
The devs for marvel rivals literally said that all of the characters will be free and unlocked at launch and beyond
marvel rivals is just slop, should be a mobile game.
@@pvprangergod4024 Ong. mr is one of the worsts games ever that came out from a beta in general. no idea how this game has hype.
@@pvprangergod4024how
@@pvprangergod4024 Dude, trying to run that shit on a phone would make it explode XD.
@@pvprangergod4024 ?
The finals didn’t die. And if it did, it certainly wasn’t because of cosmetics. People left because of bad decisions on game modes and ranked play.
It’s still getting ~15k players (not including console players)
That’s on steam alone 15K-40K S3
i wouldnt call a game with 15k dead.
it was just huge on launch as many games are.
but the 15k is just testament to how solid its design is
@@sv_1407dlAnd it really is only the design because the devs aren't even gonna have any event this season
I'm still enjoying the finals
Someday a lot of people will reach THE FINALS.🙏
10k players being considered dead is crazy to me, the games not dead till I cant play and its not like the finals or other games take longer than a minute to find a match
I actually cannot believe he showed footage of Rumbleverse and Knockout City and then claimed that The Finals is dead. Fucking mental.
@@PenguinULT there's a thing in the gaming community right now calling games "dead" as soon as the smallest setback happens and it doesn't pull Fortnite numbers. it's literally the all-or-nothing mentality
10k via steam. Theres only platforms too
@@h2woah127 correct. People never take into account for console until recently with the finals anyway. Which according to the devs it’s like 250,000 - 300,000 daily players.
Exactly
If The Finals dies imma crash out, it's really do love that game TBH. I know "micro transactions bad" but they're so inoffensive and genuinely good that it's no issue. The battlepass feels like good progression, and once I beat it early I still play for the loop and for the fun moments with The Boys.
This guy just said the game was dead because it has micro transactions which most other games have a form of that. Then also his reason was because we don’t know the dev team. That makes no sense. Embark is a new studio so the way they make it to the top is by making games!
@@GrouchyGrizz and it's a well known fact that most of the dev team of finals is people who developed battlefield 1 but then left cus of the direction ea was taking dice.
marvel rivals cooked so hard with all the maps and 33 heroes of the BAT, just some balancing and performance fixes and boom. OW now has a fellow "rival"
I feel you on balancing, i played competitive and won a match got 50 points, played 5 more matches lost all of those matches to overpowered characters. Lost all my points.
Well, Marvel rivals hypothesis aged like milk
Lmaoo fr
Hasn't even had time to age brother, the game isn't even a month old.
Not to be the guy who defends companies but the info in The Finals bit is just flatout wrong, people interested in the game keep just seeing this hate-bait content
The game launched with 3 maps (Monaco, Seoul, Vegas) and since then got one map per season (SYS$HORIZON, Kyoto) and a new one is about to begin with a new one, speculated to be Rome for the *6th map.*
One map per season is reasonable (they're not small maps and each of them have a bunch of gameplay/terrain and weather variants the game mixes from)
It did launch with 2 gamemodes, (Cashout and Bank-it), and there are *5 unique ones now* (not counting ranked-unranked variants as separate);
World Tour (new name for Cashout tournaments with a leaderboard)
Terminal Attack (ranked and unranked version)
Quick Cash
Bank-It
Power Shift, + not to mention limited time gamemode variants.
The game isn't "dead"- it just lost the initial hype from when every youtuber made a video on it, but since then it has had a steadily okay playerbase. Would you call Helldivers 2 dead? It took a bigger dip in popularity %-wise in player count.
The criticism on skins is kinda valid as the team went on vacation recently actual content slowed down this season, but you cannot say that their monetization is predatory. You can earn enough currency to buy the Battle Passes as a completely f2p player in under 3 seasons (in 2 seasons if you invite one friend through a referral link), and each season gets you almost twice as much of that currency as you need to buy the next one. You can also buy items from bundles separately (e.g you only want the hat from a skin, you can buy just the hat for like 20% of the whole bundle's price).
will add that a big reason that the finals lost hype was because of the ai voices. alot of people dropped the game because of it
@@strvmpet also a very valid point. At least the original VAs are paid for their voice samples the synthetised voice is trained on, that is what kept me from leaving the game but i dont appreciate the ai voice in itself either yeah
@@strvmpethighly, highly doubt anyone dropped the game due to ai voices. the truth is that most people don’t care for that issue one bit. ESPECIALLY not the type of people who play a competitive shooter like the finals.
Also @PeterPq , slight clarification on your maps point, the game launched with 4 maps, you missed skyway stadium. the next map will be the game’s 7th map
@@strvmpet if someone stops playing the game for AI voices they didn't like the game in the first place
deadlock is already making rounds when you need an invite from a friend who is playing, it's gonna stay high imo
it's also just fun as fuck
@@heartsockette cant try it since valve wont send the invite even though i tried multiple people, also dont know the specs needed
@@noahhill841 Some ppl I invited were also like you. Their invites never arrived no matter what they did. The only thing that worked was making brand new steam acc.
@@noahhill841 lol mine took hours and came only once I went to bed, but I played today
@@bambampewpew32its been a lot longer since i first asked
youtubers nowadays don't like games, they like calling games dead to milk views
When he said the finals and deadlock he is coping… the finals is a good game as he said but the content you can help giving ideas if you care about the game, the new weapons came from the community, meanwhile deadlock is unique in his type and it is building a disgusting (I hate dota/lol) fans because they love that type of game with shooters so..: they are not gonna be dead
Also dead games means it stop receiving updates at the point it may be shut it down and/or you can’t see the game unique that make you wish it still living… Like rainbow six or for honor… you don’t want them fail cause they are unique
(Didn't see this till now)
The entire point of this video is that I'm showing some of my favorite multiplayer games that I DON'T want to see die. I think the reality is that there's people like you who become numb to the ill decisions developers make and will defend their every move without question.
If you truly liked these games, you would be willing to admit their faults and criticize what's wrong with them to see them reach greater heights. That is the entire point of the video and many people have missed that entirely (Most likely because they didn't watch the entire thing or just read the title and immediately rushed to write a comment.)
So rivals announced that all characters will be free on launch and whenever released post-launch too so I mean I’m optimistic just hope for more game modes and maps but I’m sure they will have some good maps and modes
Ya I have full hope in rivals
That's maaaaassive, ty for letting me know
The only thing I’m worried about is that we once again , like all other ftp games, won’t be getting anything for progression.
I got two free skins which was neat but I’m looking and they don’t even have the broke man’s battlepass 😖
I don’t mind spending money on this game cause it’s fire but the money a little to tight at the moment ;-;
Your take on the finals is terrible. One because their cosmetics are crazy good and the most fair priced compared to any other game. Also 6 maps, many variants, and 5+ modes depending on how you look at it. We all want it to succeed and theres still a large playerbase
And also you can only pay for battle pass once and then if you are cautious with your multibucks then that's it.
The finals is slop dude. Give it up
@@MillBRoo you must play COD lol
@@JoepoeeeTbf, The Finals would be an S-tier game if they relaxed on their SBMM matchmaking system. Its, at times, WORSE then COD. Ive been matched against 3 stack emerald players pretty much every single quick cash game while my teammates and I arent even ranked players. SBMM in casual needs to go, then Ill say The Finals is S-tier.
@ there is 0 sbmm in casual. I hope you realize that
How are free to play games supposed to stay up if they can’t make any kind of money…? Battle passes and cosmetics shops are usually the way to go.
Sometimes they suck. Sometimes they don’t. It’s a mixed bag
Maybe stop making free to play games?
Exactly, it's when they put that shit in games you already have to pay for that it becomes a problem.
your marvel rivals take aged horribly, 33 characters free to play on launch, 8 maps, 1 conquest map, absolutely brilliant cosmetics, they have already planned out content for next year, basically, full of content
1:07 5 Modes 6 Maps is the actual number. Don't know why we are pulling arbitary numbers with zero research. the game launched with 4 maps at least you got that correct but it also launched with 4 modes. "They make sure the cosmetics are updated once every 5 minutes" it's free to play.... how do you think they make their money? Not to mention the cosmetics are of vastly superior quality than any other game on the market and I and 99% of the finals player base will stand by that.
5 instead of 6 maps - My mistake. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I was off by one and if you google it, it literally says 5 (at least when I looked). You can't possibly look at someone being off by one singular digit and criticize the entire video for being poorly researched, that's blatantly unfair.
"Cosmetics being updated updated every 5 minutes" - I don't know how someone could take that literally. You actually think that I believe the shop is updated every 5 literal minutes? I don't know how I could have made it more obvious it was hyperbole.
Superior quality cosmetics - Yeah they're pretty good, not the best but that's purely opinionated, which you're more than welcome to have.
I don't mean to sound rude, I always try to accept valid criticism, but this just seems like nitpicking. Nontheless, I still do appreciate it.
@@Its_Toko I think you are not being critic and use a lot of passive agressive to defend yourself... They indeed need to make money with the cosmetics and weekly they bring a lot of changes in the gameplay, balance and more... Thats why anyone could tell this video is effortless and its just another yt video about "dead games" instead of doing something useful
Pd: the cosmetics of the finals are the best I have seen of any free to play game 🤷 (it okey u have your opinion)
@Its_Toko I agree with Battery here. This game is far superior than any other fps game in a LONG TIME and it just ticks me off how you just blatantly assume that just because they add skins and animations every week, means that they are money grabbing game devs. MOFO they work QUALITY, not QUANTITY. Do some better research next time, dumbo.
@@joaquinschwarz6327 (Sorry, didn't see this reply till now)
If I came off as passive aggressive, I apologize, but you need to understand that it's frustrating when a sizeable amount of people *completely miss the entire point of the video.*
The point of the video (as said near the very beginning) is that I WANT these games to succeed and I think these developers make the same foolish mistakes over and over again. Not to be rude, but you're the exact type of person I'm talking about. You just defined this video as "just another yt video about 'dead games'" when that is quite literally the furthest thing from the truth and anyone who actually watched the entire thing would know that. I know for a fact you didn't watch the entire thing. You most likely just read the title, perhaps skipped to one game you recognize, and then went to the comments.
Many people read the bold title and did the very same thing and left comments that completely miss the entire main idea that I am on their side! I also want these games to succeed! The difference is that I'm willing to criticize what I think they could be doing better rather than just blindly accepting every decision these developers make. This blind following is also what leads to people being extremely eager to point out extremely small faults in the video such as me missing one singular map and mode. Such a small mistake literally changes nothing, but many people use it to try and discredit what I'm saying because they cannot tolerate criticism of something they like.
Anyone who went to the comments to immediately defend their favorite game found in the video has completely missed the entire point OF the video. I apologize if that sounds rude, but it is true. I am always open to criticism and often times actively seek it out, but I will not accept it from those who very obviously did not watch the video itself.
If someone DISAGREES with my critics towards these games, that is completely fine. But if someone blindly defends their favorite game without even acknowledging the fact that I want to see the game succeed too? (because again... that's the whole point of the video) than I cannot help but think they didn't actually watch the video.
@@Its_Toko That's like saying a music artist is dead because they have 12K streams like it's not dead it's just under rated so people need to stop saying that the finals is dead it has Players just not like cod amounts but it's not dead it's under rated if the music artist has streams then they're not dead same with the finals and another thing the finals didn't try to be like these other fps games because In the finals you compete for MONEY you don't just shoot people like cod Apex X defiant or Rainbow six siege the finals is different every game fps game doesn't have to be a clone of the other fps games for it to be popular that's what I like about embark (the developers) they actually put time and thought about the objective and purpose of the finals unlike cod or (Activision) where they just make clones of the same game and make you buy it....
The Finals is literally the most fun shooter out there right now alongside Marvel Rivals (but they're both very different, which is nice) and it's so frustrating to not see them at the top of the industry rn. And they actually have some of the coolest cosmetics I've ever seen for a game (especially the weapon skins).
I can't say for the rest of the games. But 2XKO is gonna be a hit. It might be "dead' by other games standards, but all fighting games have a sharp decline pretty quick. Particularly ones made with characters from non FGC series. Yeah, we're gonna probably see hundreds of thousands of people try 2XKO for a couple weeks, but then people will realize its still a fighting game, and then probably stay around 20-30k daily players for the future, so "dead" by you're definition, but probably still top 3 of FGs up with Street Fighter 6.
Bro didn't even have to mention Concord. Dead after a second.
Directly contradicts his point as it's pay 2 play lmao
@@RatComedenti Oh yeah, I forgot
@@RatComedenti Goes both ways imo, cuz I think we'd both agree even if it was FTP it'd die pretty much just as fast lol
@@Its_Toko not as fast though, most f2p games have a way to hang in like cockroaches despite failing
A fucking housefly has a longer lifespan than Concord did XD.
The finals really is a fun game
THE FINALS is probably the best game out there. Its such a perfect fps game paired with cosmetics and a niche spread of weapons. Plus its nowhere near dead.
I hope marvel rivals never dies and becomes a mainstream game and finally dethrones ow2
Concord:
*Dead after one day*
if it had valve name, it would be hyped up by all the glazers
@@pvprangergod4024 valve earned the glazers tho, can’t think of a single time they released garbage and people defended it.
the finals isn't dead, it still has a very active community
This game has lots of potential, all they need to do is keep updating it.
I dont think the Finals is dead because they can still fix it in season 4 and the Game itself has an estimated 280,000 unique players per day across all platforms
i cant take the art style seriously
@@pvprangergod4024 it's the gameshow inside of game, what do you want, bruh
Here to happily announce that marvel rivals is the GOAT. Already guaranteed 5 or something characters coming soon, new maps already, all characters are free to play at launch AND the r34 is about to pop off. What more do you want?
This video aged well with Marvel Rivals. That games is killing Overwatch
Man, that marvel rivals take agged like milk
Which is a good thing
IM GLAD, I LOVE THAT GAME LOOOOL
His take didn’t even age, their was just a lack of research done on the topic of this video.
@@Its_Tokono you’re not lol, game never died, just proved you milk “dead games” takes for views
What take, dude was just misinformed
Well the marvel rivals thing (thankfully) did not age, and im hopeful for its future
"future" of a chinese knockoff hahahaah
If rivals dies I’m just gonna quit gaming I can’t lie unless it’s single player 😭
Hum really?
I already quitting at this point, basically every game that I start to like basically just die.
My last one if dies for good, then will just get into single players, already fed up at this point.
@@NotAGreatPlayer so real
I’m saying bro😭
The finals will make a comeback season 4 is incredibly
It made a small comeback. The new map sucks and I have only seen it 3 times. The new guns are annoying or just OP
@@Thy_cockroach_crusader shit take
Bro was VERY wrong about Marvel Rivals. The game has a lot of players rn, and its actually very fun. Its not looking like its gonna die anytime soon. The devs cooked fr. 💯💯
I'm happy to be wrong my friend lol
MARVEL RIVALS SLAPSSSSSS
chinese overwatch clone yikes
@@Its_Toko Ong I been addicted to it ever since it came out
@@carl5939 Pack it up guys, the boss “carl5939” says Marvel Rivals is just a chinese clone of overwatch. 💀😂
"VERY wrong" it hasn't even been out for a month.
This game will be dead soooo easily :)
Damb the mravel rivals segment did not age well did it😅
Give it time to actually age wtf are you on?
It hasn't even been out for a MONTH yet.
It'll die :)
@@Elion-c8t it will die, but not very fast. i give it like 3 years before its playerbase on steam drops below 25k a day, then it will get shut down near its 10th anniversary
@@velDANTe TENTH LOL????
i love how concord is not even being discussed at this point 💀
Just heard it’s completely shutting down on 9/6/24
How dare free games have monetization!!! 🤓
Real talk, some of these games arent even dead and who tf said under 10k means its dead??
Fantastic video but was not expecting the Shadows of Evil jumpscare at 6:10
With all do respect boss man Toko I think this video was pretty poorly explained and was straight up wrong in many areas. I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that "All these games are going to die" and then have most of the games you talk about be ones that aren't even out yet. Like brother only 2 games on here are actually released and 2 others (2XKO & Deadlock) you say are probably not going to die (???). It's weird cause at the beginning you say "We see this time and time again" but then you don't show any examples of games that have, in the literal sense, died. You were even just flat out wrong about Marvel Rivals locking characters behind a paywall, meaning another point for your argument is just straight up dookie. It feels like two different videos were stitched together. One about how bad monetization is in LS games, and the other about fast modern games die out. The only point you made that applied to both of these was really multiversus, everything else was either one category or neither (cause they aint even out yet). IK you value criticism (W) which is why I felt the need to make this long ahh cringe ahh comment.
Nah you must be stupid as hell. I understood the point he was making. He's saying if games continue with the monetization practices that they do it's not hard to see the game will die in less than a year. It's not that hard to get we don't need examples this year has been full of them. This video was solid you just have too smooth a brain to not see the patterns.
This was not cringe at all
2:47 well... this did not age well. all characters are free. its probably the most f2p hero shooter in existence 💀💀
So glad Marvel Rivals stuck the landing
@@livayatanm Amen
I've never heard anyone complain about the cosmetics in the finals, and even if you want to say its dead its not for that reason. (plus I think they try to add new weapons before maps and modes, they are trying to fix the current modes right now so they aren't going to make new ones soon)
look at this guy's face.... anything thats not getting fortnite numbers is considered dead to him. That or he just wants to grab your attention and engagement bait
I would have to disagree with the 100k-10k idea because like look at achievement percentages on some games, people download games then barely get past the opening realising they're not for them, those stats don't mean a games dead it just means it found it's player base.
Bro like half the shit you say is wrong in this video, the finals has 7 maps with new weapons, gadgets and specialities every season, and marvels rivals litteraly announces days ago that all hero's would be free. At least try to do your research lmfao
What will die before?
A: Deadlock
B: This channel
I mean... Deadlock is at least 2 years away from release
Probably deadlock tbh
@@dachieclippz9826nice joke
deadlock is already dead, just has valve glazers thats it
@@pvprangergod4024 it has 30k players in off hours but sure pvprangergod4024
My drip when the finals was in beta: 🕴️
Post-Lock: 😔
After: Where’s my money?🤨 Why are there 2 currencies?😟
Valve are the kings of making games last forever and those fuckers run their live service games on stale cereal and vibes. The game could be over run with cheaters and bots spamming slurs in chat with no content update in sight and it would crack 50k concurant players consistently. For christ sake the top game on steam right now is a rushed buggy broken mess of a game released by Valve a year too early with basically no anti-cheat. How the Hell do these guys get away with it?
Ok good argument... Artifact, dota underlords. I'm a deadlock crack addict who already played for 100 hours but valve did fuck up twice before. First with artifact being a pay to play PvP card game (worse decision ever made) and dota underlords that was just outperformed by Dota autochess (the mod it was based on)
Bro Said Splitgate 1 Is Worse Than 2, Bro Unironically Said SG1 Was Boring, Must Be One Of The Ones That Quit During Beta And Didn't Come Back, There's Enough Sh*t To Make A Career Outta It, Bro Is Criticizing Free To Play As Cashgrabs When SG1 Only Had Cosmetics As Buyable Items
Concord set the record for quickest death HOURS AGO. Life comes at you fast, unless you’re Concord
Bro has personal beef with The Finals
1:10 6 Modes as of currently, and a good variety of maps that keep it fresh and active
The finals is a good Gan and it still going well I don't mind all the outfits
well it doesn't matter he's not going to get the same views and money by not saying the game fell off.
@cloudboy08 i mean he can get view easily i really hate how negative bring in more people
Having fully watched the video, I think I'm gonna stop buying micro currencies. He actually makes a pretty good point about how it makes you want to buy more and more.
Its a business brother why wouldnt they not? If people stop buyin then the game can maintain itself. Thats how sad things like this works.
Side note. I love how people are talking about skins in other games but in Valorant bundles they do be eating it raw, guess streamer glazing does work after all. Good move by RIOT.
I get what you're saying. It's just sad that they need microtransactions to survive.
Im so glad Marvel Rivals gave us all the characters AND THE LEAKS SAY MORE CHARACTERS ARE COMING. THIS SHIT IS HYPE
Embark makes The Finals, it's a brand new studio consisting of OG DICE from Battlefield
Marvel Rivals releases with 33 characters.
Marvel rivals is not the thing that u said (my opinion)
Extremely wrong on both 2XKO & Deadlock, 2X is heavily awaited due to the FGC being in a bit of a mess (some people hate T8/SF6) and people like Max have sung it's praises, it'll be #3 behind those two and it's not even a debate. Then, Deadlock has 100k+ with a janky invite system, it fills shooter & a moba which will be fine
0:31 Knockout City was my FAVORITE game to play while listening to music. And I would go CRAZY on that game. I hope it does comeback.
0:47 The Finals will not die maybe it could be one of the biggest shooters sometime
cant help but think if these games just priced themselves accordingly they would actually make MORE money than by just killing it off rip by having the monetization of satan
the most a skin in a game should be is like 10 bucks imo and even then ik some will say that’s too high. but in comparison to the 20, 50, or hell 500 dollar cosmetics I feel like we should’ve drawn a line a far longer time ago
Yep, Multiversus comes to mind, seeing how even the Nickelodeon game made enough money to justify a sequel
@@deadhelix Skins should not be monetized, period. It's nonsensical, selling textures and jpegs at exorbitant prices, manipulating the weak minded because these "cosmetics" represent "status" in a imaginary world. I really think the governments worldwide should step in and regulate this industry, even sugar is regulated, but you can sell "cosmetics" and slot machines to children?
I enjoyed this video, really good edits. I want to play deadlock so bad but none of my bum steam friends have access smh
I get the want for paid game with proper progression, but having a paywall to a game makes it way harder to get into and cycle in new players. Spectre would be more likely to die as a paid game when valorant would be a free alternative thats had years to grow and the riot name behind it, vs it being free and not hurt to try leading to more exposure and actually having people
seeing if they like it than writing it off. Everyone said that battlebit was way better than the newest battlefield yet it has lower player count than bf 2042
In the newest Bucky trailer they said that every character would be available at launch, so I have faith in rivals.
Faaaaat W
Usually when a game reaches 100k players at the start, most games taper off to roughly 10k players. It varies, but pretty normal
When deadlock adds an internal economy it will make the game never die lol
here after rival relese and holy progression ez battle pass all characters it goes on and on its perfect
Never let this man cook again
Love to see the new vid pop off my boy 🙌
My main worries about Marvel Rivals are the maps, game modes and performance optimizations. They are going to have such an easy time with character additions compared to other games who have to create brand new ones.
Man, Deadlock is so good that Shroud forgot his own game.
As someone who is from the future, Marvel Rivals is a fantastic game with 30+ FREE characters on launch and more to come such as Gambit
If you want a game with natural progression and no pay wall to review, there is a game called The Forever Winter that's was just recently in beta.
Just going to put this here cause people keep saying the finals is dead or dying....no
"less than 15k on steamcharts tho"
This game is majority a console playerbase, yes its weird, turning off crossplay makes ques go to 5 min turning it on gives matches almost instantly.
Devs have also "said" that the game has never gone below 500k at the mid point of season 2, 4 months later whether or not that's still the case rn is up for debate.
As for the content being mostly skins, well its f2p so obvs, but the finals is that 1 game mode in the game. Its why a majority of the playerbase threw a fit the moment they changed ranked to a bad rainbow six mode saying "It wasnt the finals." I'm all for new gamemodes but those don't determine if a game lives or dies, league has been on the same map for over a decade with tiny changes.
(Ik Toko wants these games to succeed this was just an fyi cause its a common misconception that this game is unpopular or dead...Its not.)
Watching the marvel rivals segment (I'm aware that this video came out two months ago, and you're probably aware of this). I am happy to say that they said all characters up to Capt America and Winter Soldier will be playable and free on launch.
Deadlock will have some kind of progression since there’s a greyed out tab called progression in the hero select screen.
locking heroes behind progression is ebola
I was worried you were going to put deadlock as a dead aftwr one month there.
With how polished it already is in early access, and how many people are playing and talking about it just from a share link early access.
I foresee a HUGE shift in people leaving overwatch, and TF2, and going to Deadlock.
Because its a game that's finally done something different, it gave a hero shooter lanes and dota denies, item shop, no passive income, you get only what you deserve.
I might be glazing, but I think Deadlock has a very very bright future.
If they do cosmetics like with dota that you can buy and sell on marketplace as well. It's going to be top tier money making like Dota as well
Keep posting vids bro, you will blow up.
Love the video, Great points. Keep it up.
Happy Chaos?! Is that you?
Really though, loved the personality in the video, I subbed 🩷
The finals really had potential.. there was just a huge problem with cheating and that scared a majority of the player base away. Also not to mention with Fortnite being as popular as it is it’s so difficult for any other game to get off the ground. Crazy I was bored and sick of Fortnite after the first chapter. Guess people like dying to sweats that build the Empire State Building in 0.8 seconds when you fire one shot at them.
Splitgate was such a Fun Game, it just couldn't keep up in the Content department.
So about Marvel Rivals lol
It just started brother. It's gonna die so hard lmao
@Elion-c8t ya don't know that lol, this game continues its track plus give new updates and game modes I see this game lasting as long if not longer than that mid game Overwatch
@@luthergames6930 Overwatch is garbage but Overwatch isn't going anywhere bro 💀
Rivals on the other hand is the DEFINITION of a trend game. It'll be gone before u know it
@Elion-c8t really? I'm pretty sure no one gonna abandon the game, I'm addicted to it, plus all heroes going forward are free? I'm sorry but it ain't just a trend game it's a competitor
@@luthergames6930 Lets dial it back to that, how is the game supposed to survive if all the characters are free 🤡
Notice how rare it is to see skins? They're gonna start being scummier and scummier (or the game will get lower and lower till they just shut it down!)
This didn’t age well. The Finals isn’t going to die 😂
The finals isn’t dead it’s still popular a lot of people play the game and it definitely didn’t die after one month
dw he just wants to farm views knowingly that these kinda videos brings these games down even more
@@cloudboy08 agreed you play the finals
You summoned all the finals glazers with this vid😭 can’t say much as a Splitgate fan but I can acknowledge that the game dies and only hope sg2 does well
Love the outro, where can I pay for more?
Bro called The Finals dead just cause game owned regular audience and not in hype train anymore. Same thing happened to Apex and Helldivers 2, that got crazy online on release, and then just lost all random players looking for the fun game for a month, but they aren't in your list
marvel rivals aint gonna die
Sure bud
6:10 THE SHADOWS OF EVIL ROUND CHANGE NOISE LOL the city does kinda look like Shadows wtf
Another great example of this is battlebit, went crazy for like a few months but the updates fell off there just enough to keep my enough
The finals is actually a really fun and unique game. Unfortunately went down like this
I don't think project L will be dead in a month. As long as all the characters are free
Me when a friend game needs money to operate: 😮
By the way there are games that are free that are good they just die after a while because they either don't add new content or the devs just abandoned them and the other thing is there are some free games that can have progression and also have options to pay money most development teams nowadays don't really care they just want the money which is a real disappointment
marvel rivals is basically an OW competitor actually so yea ow wont die
not being a shill or a crybaby but ow wont die coz we all know the real ow killer is ow itself
but yea marvel rivals will be cookin that OW
You just appeared on my fyp while eating, and now im here (as a compliment, keep it going👍)
Rivals has already released 4 characters in beta which gives me so much hope
I actually doubt Spectre will die, its the first tac shooter that is actually casual friendly
its not valorant so it will die
@@uvgalaxyxd7068 Siege and cs 2 are not valorant.
spectre has terrible art style, but so does valorant.
5:20 i genuinely laughed out loud ggs mate
I love how know one can actually explain the problem with the finals without mentioning any valid points
bro is playing drift from guilty gear in the back ground what a giga chad