I feel like it’s getting lost in the sauce that in the first minute of this video I say I think all of this is rad as hell and I’m just purposefully being nitpicky for content lol.
Literally. That's actually a point I mention in my Multiversus vid lol. There's tons of crossover episodes from the IPs included in the game and most of their plots revolve around randomly being teleported to the same universe as X characters and they have to work together to defeat a bigger villain. It doesn't have to be crazy or whatever, it's just fun! :)
Didn't you realize this is why the first three is so weak on plot reasons? The game producer didn't even care about why as much as you do so they won't bother to think of a better reason. Then all leads to this video by criticizing on those don't care and touting on some childhood memory theme shit and in my opinion actually the most disrespect to those characters and their background deep into the basic lore😅
"If I were to rate how Dead by Daylight is doing their crossovers, *I'd say they're doing a pretty good job so far.*" Had me laughing. For those of you who don't know, this is a very infamous quote in the DBD community, as the director of the game famously said during a dev livestream "I think we've done a pretty good job so far" meanwhile the entire fanbase was essentially on fire due to the sheer amount of bugs and balance issues within the game. This line constantly gets meme'd in the community. I appreciate you putting this reference in, as I am 99% sure this is absolutely intentional. The wording is too specific to be random chance.
The _true_ inciting incident was the Turtles, if Mario didn't hate Turtles, then none of this would have happened. "But Wendy, Bowser wasn't even _in_ Smash Brothers 64!" Oh no, not _that_ turtle, _The Turtles._ It was the song "Happy Together" that set Mario off, causing his PTSD, which made him trip the one closest to him, which just happened to be Yoshi. I'm not saying this absolves him of guilt or anything, he really needs therapy, I just wanted to point it out for clarity. I'm pedantic like that.
I think its also implied that the themes of burnout and creation in Smash Bros are indicative of Sakurai's own feelings working on the franchise over the years. And that meta commentary is cool to me.
@@syn-militia9059Thank you! While I like a lot of Matpat's videos some of them are just straight up garbage clickbait, trying to make a theory out of nothing for views. I'm glad someone else sees it.
Ik I basically a FN nerd for saying this but just to clarify and to keep things up to date: 1. The zero point is the center of all reality not just the source, which is also why it is in its own reality known as "Reality 0" 2. The nothing was not a significant villain, only ever having a presence in one season and even then, only had some dialogue but not even any form of design. The antagonist changed throughout the over 30 seasons of the game. 3. The Zero Point does exist in by chapter 5 but that island is not home to it and therefore isn't reality 0, putting the method of crossovers into question. 4. The Imagined Order never synthesized any island, the island itself is naturally made by the zero point to protect itself and is "Reality 0", with the exception of chapter 4's island which was forged by a story character using parts of multiple realities. We know this because the chapter 2/3 island was made by the zero point to protect itself, and the chapter 1 island existed before the imagined order found it.
I would also like to put in that the I.O did put a few people in, but several others are where they accidentally were transported to the island thanks to cracks in reality called rifts Also I.O never was wiping the minds of the island, the zero point did this as protection to keep people from using its power (the zero point is alive BTW)
and on top of that time travel got involved, so with the island we have now, it isn't certain where the zero point is or even what is going on with all the characters we knew before.
@@thingswithnate2815 The zero point still exist, from what I could gather it still exist either as the chapter 2/3 island or in the chapter 4 island as they were not erased from history, and the inhabitants of the chapter 4 island were simply transported to the chapter 5 island which could mean the chapter 4 island still exist or is going to eventually be remade as history repeats itself.
The whole "It's a kid playing with toys" thing for Smash was cool at first until you realize it implies a child has toys of Rated M characters and Samus in skimpy outifts.
I think it still makes sense. Like Bayonetta gets introduced in Smash 4, and if we follow the “person growing up theory”, Smash 4 would be when the person is a new adult or something
I watched matpats video on smash 5, apparently the world of light story mode is more or less the company vs the community, with galeem wanting to control all of their franchises and dharkon being very chaos heavy which is every community in a sense. Its been a while since i watched it but thats what i remember from that video
i’m a huge dbd nerd, basically the reason pyramid head is in the entities realm is because he is there to punish the entity itself. his main power is digging into the ground with his sword (the realm is made out of the entity itself). and he constantly breaks the rules by killing survivors by his own hand. also side note, the entity is not trying to destroy the multiverse, it’s only goal is to feed, but it can freely travel the multiverse and the trials take place in their own universe.
That is not correct, the Entity just made a deal with Pyramid Head. Pyramid Head is there because monsters in Silent Hill exist as their own beings. Same way as Maria exists. Second, I’ll never understand where this killer is able to kill without hooks means the Entity has no say. If it happens in trial it’s because the Entity has allowed it. Also gameplay =\= lore accurate. Survivors die all the time without being hooked, even other survivors can kill other survivors
@@daniels2745 The survivors get brought back after kills, hook or mori. And can you elaborate on "other survivors killing other survivors"? Because I've never heard of that in DBD
@@gizmoray721Uhmm.... Yes? I’m sorry I’m not sure what the Entity bringing back survivors has to do with my original point. Sure, basically it happens in one of the observer’s Tome entries. He talks about a survivor being brought back after a trial, he goes crazy so three other survivors drown him in a puddle of mud
Disney should make a platform fighter where the story is just... A bunch of artists that decided to draw Disney characters fighting each other to the death for kicks and giggles. There's not even a true story mode, just Smash's All-Star Mode with a 'plot' and monsters made out of past movie villians... And Death Trap Minigames.
to be honest. a disney platform fighter would just be super smash kingdom hearts. kingdom hearts already has the lore. just shove all kh and disney characters into one game and bam.
Fun as that sounds, I think there were some issues while getting Sora into Smash because Disney didn't want their stuff in a fighting game? So while he did get in, direct references to full Disney characters were removed. If they're doing that I don't see them making one themselves.
By all means isn't that just Smash Bros? Brawls starts off with literally just that with Mario and Kirby at a tournament, then the story focuses on villains attacking them and what their potential plan is, so while the main story strays from that, that seems to be something established in the very first mission. Then the whole invitation thing for various characters we see more of in later games
LEGO Dimensions had the best lore tbh. It helps that it's built off the LEGO Batman videogame lore, so we're following an established DC universe. I like how they give solid reasons to go to each universe (the Foundation Elements, fun ways to incorporate iconography of those worlds into a larger story) and it's super fun to see all the different character interactions. Vortech is an effective and fun villain, and the other villains included are cool too - though there is a bit too much emphasis placed on DC villains throughout the story mode
@@Alban_Blade_Memerhad no idea it existed before hand. Now almost 9 years after the games realise I’m getting the doctor for my birthday- and maybe chel
I love the fact that Alan wake He can be in any game without problems and excuse it with "the story just occurred to me while i was writing the end of the return"
I think the first Smash’s world building was a real lightning-in-a-bottle situation. The fact that a child playing with toys fits the aesthetic and the lore so well for the first game allowed its sequels to focus on increasing the scale and incorporating more characters. When a new character is introduced, no one ever questions the in-universe justification; at most, people wonder if a character’s inclusion has implications towards the Smash Bros universe.
Multiversus: an entity wants to destroy the multiverse dbd: an entity wants to destroy the multiverse Fortnite: an entity wants to destroy the multiverse Smash bros : childhood trauma and social rejection
the entity doesn't want to destroy the multiverse but it wouldn't care for destroying worlds, the entity feeds of emotion so what good would destroying the entire multiverse do for him?
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale: Playstation characters learning about some special power/treasure/unknown threat and going in their own quests to find it by fighting other characters they come across. Blazblue Cross Tag Battle: A robotic entity captures characters from other worlds for some sort of tournament hosted by the entity itself.
The Entity from DBD less wants to destroy the multiverse. Just feed off of it. As for The Nothing in Multiversus, it's less an entity and more a force. The Nothing in The Neverending Story is just a cataclysm that feeds on imaginination, since The Nothing is all of the forgotten dreams and hopes of mankind. It's more comparable to cynicism and a loss of drive than anything. It doesn't destroy because it wants to, it destroys because it exists. The Manipulators and Xayide have more claim to wanting to destroy the multiverse, and in The Manipulators case that's debatable.
The funniest part of Smash's premise is, since Joker has the ability to enter people's cognitive realms, it's possible he's the only canonical character there.
@@Sr.BulletBillI wouldn’t say canonical to smash, but more it’s canon that Kid Icarus is aware that it’s a game developed by Nintendo. It’s why they do fourth wall breaks such as them avoiding anything Metroid related due to copyright laws or something.
Something about the entity is that it doesn't exactly want to destroy the multiverse. Instead it unintentionally does that as a bi product of searching for food across realities.
@@novameowwwkof 94 is not exactly a crossover because all the character are from the same time and universe. Now neogeo battle coloseum can be called a crossover because it have characters from different times and places.
@@lordkaicer AoF takes place 20 years prior to Fatal Fury though. and the athena & ikari warriors parts weren't even part of the southtowniverse prior even if that weren't true, crossovers are just when any two series, well, cross over. it doesn't matter if they're in the same continuity at the same time
6:20 player first confirmed in the pve trailer the universe it takes place in is a brand new one called wb-35c so I imagine the reason it can pull charecters like neo and toons is just because if you manifest them, they arrive other charecter acknowledge the other as fictional in their own reality like the batman who laughs that says in one line bugs bunny is a “toon” I think wb-35c works with metaphysical and physical things
I think my personal favorite type of Multiverse lore is for games like Project X Zone or Street Fighter X Tekken, where they simply say that its a universe where where those characters just exist together in the same world. Brawl sorta goes in here as well.
Super Robot Wars also does this. Where all the Mecha series in each particular game simply exists in the same world. They even added a few extra bits and small changes for the many Mecha series to work better together.
@@tableprinterdoor some specific series that couldn't be tied to some do kinda just exist on there one, but the majority (All of them if just talking about Namco X Capcom) come from 1 of 4 places iirc. Earth, Makai, Holy Realm, and the Future. And then there are characters who are able to travel between these on the usual.
Rick making the Meta joke about the anime character is very in character for Rick. He's constantly breaking the 4th wall in the show and he's even aware that he's in a fighting game
Doom eternal does this in an interesting way While the main story doesn't have it the multiplayer has this where the doom slayer is going to multiple universes and killing their demons, but due to him entering their universes their worlds affect his armor, basically the reason theres skins
In the actual lore of Kid Icarus, Smash Bros. DID happen to the characters, which gets discussed both in their game and the fourth installment of Smash Bros. The series also has no fourth wall, so take that as you will, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
To be frank, I believe that Smash is canonically also a game in universe. During the Tutorial Palutena mentions the Dodge is similar to the one in Super Bash Sisters, while Pit corrects her saying it’s Smash Bros. Donkey Kong (the game) is also mentioned by name. The fourth wall is mostly just a suggestion there too, as Viridi actually tries to stop Pit from breaking it in one of the later chapters, meaning she at least respects it. It exists, it’s just a majority of the cast don’t actually care about it whatsoever. It’s actually been a while since I played Kid Icarus Uprising, really should go back to it. (I have most of the games levels with the Gold marker, meaning all treasure collected). The Palutena’s Guidence, and those like them, mechanic in Smash is presumably the ACTUAL versions of the Characters, though. I think one of the Fire Emblem Characters, Chrom I think, shows up to talk too. I really like how Viridi completely nerds out during Plant’s Guidence and lists literally every subspecies of Piranha Plant across the entire Mario Series. They ported and expanded the Guidence over to Smash Ultimate, though the Codex Calls in Snake’s Stage and the Star Fox conversations in one of those stages are directly ported, which includes outdated information.
To add onto the vecna part, he himself was so powerful that he was branded with this "seal of negation" by the entity to dampen his powers that you can actually see in game behind his head. It was a cool lore tidbit Cote revealed in an interview.
the mark was to nerf him during the trials though, not in the realm in its entirety, since Vecna is in no way more powerful than the Entity, even in his lore, even though he managed to hold him back temporarily, he said he had never seen such great evil as The Entity. Also Pixel Bush who is a great DND nerd explained how he is nowhere the entity's level of power and has gotten himself into a situation against a foe he cant defeat.
@@noobed9646 “we’ve done a pretty good job so far” is a meme in the DBD community. It originates from one of devs saying as much, despite the game being in a very rough state to say the least.
The fanmade flash character fighting game 'Flash Bash' has some pretty neat lore. After Adobe Flash was deleted, the multiverse was seemingly destroyed, however when ruffle was installed it was brought back, but it wasn't perfect, main characters got sucked into a Nexus point where all flash games worlds meet. Juliet from NT Creature and The Visitor took over in secret. We get a fight between Henry stikmin and Max/Dart Monkey, before they realize they're on the same side. The rest of the story mode is them at getting all the heroes to join them, so they can go fight The Visitor (who overthrew Juliet). They beat him up, and everyone goes back to their respective universe after ruffle gets an update to fix the bugs.
It isnt really the IO sending people to reality zero. The Zero Point has connections to every universe and because of how powerful it is to obtain, reality zero gets a lot of chaos thrown at it. I think at this point after all the chaos theres really no controlling where the rifts go so anyone can rift into the island. Theres genuinely a lot of different reasons certain people get rifted in, it just depends on what story characters end up finding their dimension and recruiting them.
I (personally) still think Fortnite does it best when it comes to actually *trying* to explain what's happening- rather than copping out. Multiversus has the obvious 'day one draft' lore that's probably never going to be rewritten and Smash tries to avoid explaining it altogether by being very vague- but Fortnite's lore progressively explains what's going on despite not REALLY knowing what's going on. Every season (for the most part) introduces another faction on the defending or opposing side with their own reason for doing what they're doing- ever slowly but surely explaining why 'x' happened after 'y'. Literally four seasons summarized: Super powerful alien cubes are appearing around the island- The IO starts looking into it. Oh it's literally a mothership dropping them, send half the island's population on a suicide mission. *Oh fuck, that didn't work.*
Lore being explained isn't my favorite thing. When you have to piece the puzzle together to find out the lore. Is just better but you can have your opinions. Just Fortnite kinda just look at this look at that.
An anime character coming to Multiverses? Okay that's definetly Jotaro. Warner brothers owns David Productions, and if they're smashing IPs together and seeing what sticks, they might as well add a popular anime IP
Its ruby rose shes been mentioned in leaked voice lines The only other possible 2 are naruto whose name was in a datamine but could also be replaced by an original character and goku because morty has a leaked voice line where he shouts kamehameha
@@syn-militia9059 Nah I ain't salty, I just sat down and thought what anime character that Warner Bros own can be put into Multiverses, David Productions came into mind and with it, the good ol' Stardust Crusader. And I am legit lamenting how much RWBY has been milked. Ever since the creator died it got worse and worse... Hell a smut fanfiction written by a basement-dweller is better than what Rooster Teeth wrote. Now that Rooster Teeth is gone, I VERY much hope that RWBY is as well... That franchise shouldn't suffer
@@syn-militia9059 my guy, do you think jojo is for kids? the same jojo where a mother is forced to eat her kids (whom are alive), where a guy stabs a cat with a fork, where a guy EATS a dog/cat its a Seinen (targeted for young adults) think before you write my dude also jojo would make a better character than a rwby character, just look at asbr
One of the funniest things In DBD Is the Demogorgon from Stranger Things. Out of universe, due to licensing issues, it couldn't stay In game for long. In universe. The Demogorgon just stumbled into The Entity's realm, screwed around a little bit, got bored and left.
6:50 oh come on he is not even fighting, he is just playing, until he enters his combat mode of course but maybe he got mad Speaking of smthat, some fighters in Multiversus dont fight in the traditional sense. For example, Tom and Jerry are just trying to kill each other and the damage they cause is purely collaretal, or Taz, who i doubt he is fighting, more like he is trying to eat you, and Lebron is just playing basketball.... well you get the point, some of those fighters arent fighters
Bro Multiversus cam out 2 years ago and Fortnite is about to be 8 years old. The lores are similar because Warner bros and Fortnite both had original characters to be the main antagonist and each crossover does sometimes have to do something in the storyline of Fortnite.
Fun fact there’s a theory that the kid in smash’s lore is sakurai and the game is about sakurai’s life and upbringing he’s the kid with the imagination
Something I haven't heard anyone ever mention for smash, you could say that Sora, being the final character for Ultimate, represents childlike wonder and joy, rekindling your love for fun, and stuff like that. This mainly comes from both Ansem the Wise's speech in Dream Drop Distance, where he says that Sora's love for other people is so great that he can bring things to life by seeing them, and this is obviously echoed in his smash trailer, where his joy and optimism quite literally bring the toys to life, reigniting the faded flame of imagination, and this ties into Kingdom Hearts' themes of growing up as well
@dragondelsur5156 that's actually not quite what happened, he wasn't sure if Sora's source material would be respected, stuff like only him wielding the keyblade of light, or that they wouldn't do him justice, which seems silly but if you look at characters like Sonic, you can see where he's coming from
I find it kinda funny how of all these games with tons of iconic characters, Smash Bros seems to be the only one that actually got creative with its lore and not just being “A powerful entity named The _____ wants to destroy the Multiverse, and its actions lead to people from other universes mashing together to beat the crap out of or even kill each other”
@@Spino-hx2mr Oh, right. Unlike the villains in the other three games, Master Hand’s goal isn’t to destroy the Multiverse, it’s just a kid playing with his toys/figures (also it isn’t called The ______, like the other three), in-universe, Master Hand/the kid’s goal is just to have fun
@@LucasHopkins2006Fortnites major villain was Geno a guy who wanted to create a perfect society in all realities. The Nothing, was a different faction that wanted to destroy the island and all realities. Anyways the current villain Megalo Don is trying to turn the island into a wasteland not destroy it.
How much you wanna bet the villain is called "the Nothing" because they legitimately couldn't think of a villain and decided "hey this sounds cool?" XD
@@pocodyess6050 I know that's the theory, but that doesn't necessarily mean its true... They have yet to confirm it. And its not the only multiverse game with a villain called that.
No, multiple games and series wouldn't all coincidentally just go 'eh, I can't think of anything, good enough'. It's more logical than that- if a game or story is about everything coming together, then what's the opposite of that? Nothing. Emptiness. It happens a lot that way simply because it makes sense- it's the opposite of worlds converging.
I have had a dream of making a game one day, and although my game doesn't surround any sort of multiverse concept, I have thought of crossovers as a possibility. I feel like most games that aren't fighting games tend to keep everyone on a fair playing field by simply making their big IP characters a skin instead of an actual 1 to 1 character from their original world, mainly with Fortnite and partially with MultiVersus. Considering I had a dream of a hero shooter, if I wanted to do a collab, I ain't going the cheap OW2 route of some overpriced skin. I would KILL to have the character fully realized as who they are in the best way we could, between their moveset and their personality. Kinda like how Marvel Rivals is doing it. Sorry if this was completely off-topic. Just wanted to incorporate my 2 cents.
No I completely agree a cross franchise hero shooter or similar could actually go hard honestly it’s always nice to see characters use their full avaliblity of power like with smash etc (though obviously not every character in smash’s moveset is 100% accurate it still contains the main aspects of their franchises etc)
@@unusualusername8847 I remember I used to brainstorm for something like that, the thought of different fairy-tale and mythology characters fighting each other is actually really cool. Like, just imagine Alice (Wonderland) teaming up with Loki (Norse mythos)
If you take a deep look at iron giants move set he’s actually not attacking people, he’s mostly just playing with scrap or accidentally hurting others because of his size, like when he’s laying down on the ground.
Multiversus taking place in a server would explain further anomalies, such as the Gremlins characters' apparent immunity to "sunlight"; if it's not actual sunlight, it's not dangerous to them. On the other hand, we see several stages in the launch trailer, each seemingly scooped out of their world of origin and just floating in space... this is similar in appearance to Space Jam's setup, BUT still different- there, each world was its own self contained planet; here, each stage is closer to a diorama than a miniature digital ecosystem. Plus, more stages appear over time, and the Space Jam court is one of these self-contained stages that manifested later than the others... which suggests something more like these areas are getting pulled into one place similarly to the fighters. As for why everyone's fighting, I think I heard somewhere that the fights themselves either combat the encroaching Nothing, or feed it... I can't recall which. This suggests that either A: characters are dealing with the Nothing in the only available way, or B: The Nothing is encouraging these fights somehow to strengthen itself. We might learn more later on. There were other original characters discovered in development- I guess we'll see if they come to the game later on! I really hope they get foreshadowed decently before time so we don't get a Banana Guard scenario where the new character is revealed and the most vocal of the community act really upset. As for another Zanifeer resident, one of the devs does have an older or possibly evil-looking version of Reindog as their profile picture... MVS and DBD were the only lore explanations I was familiar with, so it's cool to hear about the others! Nice video.
10:31 The reason you thought that was probably one of two things 1. There is an item that used to be in BR that let you redeploy your glider when jumping. 2. In Fortnite creative you can toggle on a setting that allows the player to redeploy their glide in your maps.
Here is an idea: Make a new god character who is bored in the Void. He has siblings who created universes/multiverse/realities of their own. This god liked their creations and asked to borrow them. His siblings refused. So this god decided to "copy" his siblings' creations and put them in his own universe where they co-exist or fight to the death.
Ngl, this is my head-canon for Smash, with "god" being a lonely, only-child who watches other universes (a metaphor for watching other kids play video games with their siblings) and he makes copies of the characters with his imagination (and his toys).
Cosmetic descriptions say he used to put traps in the mines to catch the workers and that’s how he discovered his true self, so I see it as his tome lore being the catalyst that turned him from being more sensitive to having the kindness stamped out of him and turning on the workers entirely. But yeah there’s room for interpretation
I think the most simple way to summarize every single explanation truly is, the companies just want your money and want to bring fan favorite characters, the difference is that the excuse from each game for that is more elaborated than the other
Your fortnite explanation was really good but I do want to add one supporting thing, that the crossover characters being in the game does depend, for some characters it was Jones’ doing and for others it was the zero point just pulling them from their realities. That’s all. Don’t mean to sound like a 🤓 but yeah just wanted to add that
I appreciate it! I was confused if 1) they were hand-picked and 2) why they’re still happening after the IO went away so I’d imagine it’s partially that second thing you mentioned?
@@NotFrickingNickthere was whole season ages ago where this guy John Jones recruited a multiverse team of bounty hunters as example of people purposely collecting sepesific people. Also dr strange teleported himself there willingly to help fight in a war and so on and so forth
@@NotFrickingNickanother thing, the nothing didn't create the imagined order or working with them, the organization you were thinking of is called The Last Reality. Then again the old story seems to have ended with the big bang event at the end of chapter 4, so who knows what the story of fortnite is now
Some games have no lore like Rocket League but for some reason have lore for exactly one crossover. Like Rocket League's hogsticker hae HALO canon as a cancelled experimental warthog of which only one prototype exists which somehow landed into the world of rocket league. Also since rocket league is now canonically a part of fortnite I guess every single rocket league collab car was caused by Fortnite's lore rifts. Just imagine some dude lost his honda civic to a crack in the sky
I would argue that Smash has distanced itself from the toy concept since around Smash 4, with trailers often using the invitation and other scenarios set deeper within the fighters' homeworlds. I remember noticing one of the Directs where they explained Spirits using terminology about "the real world" and "the world of imagination," saying that discarding spirits is sending them back to the real world, while the final game says that you're sending them back to their original worlds.
This is totally unrelated but regardless what you say of the theory that Alan Wake created the entity... my theory is that the entity is actually just the dark presence and that the entity's realm is inside the dark place. Also it would be fun to think that the entity is also the same one as the Evil from Evil dead since Ash got into the realm by mispelling something in the Necronomicon again
11:41 No, no, you're right. Fortnite lore has so many plotholes and retcons I'm not even sure what's canon anymore and I've been following it since launch lmao
Trapper's lore is actually a bit sadder than that. Trapper actually was really nice to the workers, but when another worker ratted on his kindness, he lost all sympathy for them. He slowly began becoming more and more like his abusive evil father who killed his mother, and one day he blew up the mines trapping all of the workers inside and then killed his father before being taken by the entity. There is a lot more to it then that but that was just my quick summery.
The Entity from DBD just wants to keep living and thriving. It feeds off of hope, so it uses the Trials as basically a facotry for it. If it were to destroy the Multiverse, all of its playthings that give it its food would be dead and so would it
The Entity also has had to bother nerf survivors like Cheryl Mason (Silent Hill) and some other survivors that have access to magic. It also buffed certain killers from their respective universe, like Twins, Legion, Plague, and a few others
Don’t you just love it when someone makes a video covering an incredibly specific topic that you are absolutely crazy about? I know I do. Crossovers are wonderful, usually stupid fun, and I can’t get enough of them. I wanted to bring up two games that I love following the lore of despite the fact that they want your money, but my enjoyment of both has endured to this day. Those games are LEGO Dimensions and Disney Heroes: Battle Mode. And I’m only gonna be talking about the former, because the latter has been around for 6 years and I don’t have time to talk about both. LEGO Dimensions was the last entry in the “Toys-to-Life” craze that Skylanders had kicked off. You’d buy a starter pack, and if you wanted more content, you’d go to the store to buy more physical toys. I’m proud to say that I still have the entire collection to this day (With the exceptions of Supergirl and Green Arrow. Screw them). The plot kicks off with a dimension-hopping tyrant named “Lord Vortech” and his robot minion, X-PO, finally finding the dimension that Vortech had been seeking for years: Foundation Prime. The two unearth tablets that depict “The Foundation Elements”. They are described as “artifacts from the start of time”, as well as “the cornerstones of time and space”. These elements consist of: Kryptonite (Any will do) The One Ring The Palantir (Why does LotR get two?) Captain Metalbeard’s Treasure Chest The Red Ruby Slippers Homer’s Inanimate Carbon Rod Master Chen’s Staff of Elements The Flux Capacitor An Aperture Science Cake (Which is not a lie) A P.K.E. Meter A Gold Token from within a Midway Arcade Machine And The Diamond Scarab (Found in Scooby-Doo’s dimension) Despite X-PO’s warnings, Vortech banishes him, briefly loses control of his body, and realizes that physical dimension-hopping is getting harder, so he builds a castle and starts summoning villains from other dimensions and forces them to go grocery shopping for him. Our heroes, who are the only canonical ones because they are in the starter pack, consist of Batman, Wyldstyle, and Gandalf. Each of them go through the same motions of witnessing their friends (Robin, Frodo, and MetalBeard) getting captured by Vortech via portal because they were each holding a Foundation Element. The trio end up in another original location called “Vorton”, which becomes their base of operations. They rebuild the portal that exploded after they arrived, and they use it to travel to wherever the computer needs them to go. Er, but not Foundation Prime yet. Its location is unknown at first. I really want to tell the whole story, but I gotta hit the sack, so I’ll just bring up how this game handles timelines. Needless to say, it’s all over the place. Some are easy to pin down as taking place after their previous installments, such as The LEGO Movie, Portal 2, and the LEGO Batman Video Games. However, the intro makes it very clear that certain canon events and timelines are going to be thrown out of whack, confirmed by The Lord of the Rings. Gandalf’s introduction to the story takes place during Fellowship where he falls to his “death” with the Balrog. Batman ends up falling with him after he chased Robin through a portal back home. This is the part where Miguel gets pissed. Batman saves Gandalf, Frodo gets captured as the two give chase, and the rest of the fellowship just wait there. Forever. Even after the game’s end. I guess the Orcs who were shooting at them were so shocked that they all fled? So, yeah. That’s the intro to LEGO Dimensions. It’s a very strange mixture of a crossover where some characterizations and timeline placements are accurate, while others get tossed into a blender. If it weren’t so expensive to buy those toys, I’d highly recommend it! It’s one of my all-time favorite crossover games! Also Sonic Games. Yeah, he’s here, too.
Not an essay, just a tiny correction on the Fortnite lore. The Nothing doesn’t belong to the IO, but to another faction, and the central antagonists are the Cube Queen from the Last Reality and Geno from the IO✌️ About Dead by Daylight, I think its cool how Pinhead isn’t even forced in the entites realm, he’s just there cause he likes making people suffer. And his Mori just teleporting his victim away from the realm is priceless
Something else that I like about Smash Bros. reasonings is that even if we try to canonize it, the reason the character reveal videos give is every character going "Gadzooks! I got invited to Smash Bros! I'll head over there now!" Which I think is equally silly and fun, imagining the idea of someone like Joker getting a letter in the mail, dropping everything in life, and catching the nearest train or whatever to go wherever Smash Bros. is happening is just funny, alternatively sometimes it just feels like characters break in to Smash Bros. and everyone just has to deal with them now. It's a very fun idea that just lets you enjoy Smash Bros.
It’s funny that you chose picking Iron Giant as your example for Multiversus, when he is currently literally the only character on the roster that you can’t pick right right now.
Something important about DBD lore is that it is not trying to destroy the multiverse at all, in addition to this all the survivors are actually not exactly from the same universe, or at least there is evidence that shows other wise. The Entity takes people in multiple ways, either people go to it (Ash accidentally opening a book and getting sent there) or it goes to people (Too many examples). Also slight correction on Vecna's lore, he has "The Mark of Negation" (red thing on the back of his neck) that limits his power. But he does want to take over the realm. Overall, good video!
I don't care what anyone says. I like multiversus' lore. Also friendly reminder that the iron giant used to be a killing machine. He otibably just has a self-defense protocol or something. Now make a video on fornite's lore, you coward!
one of my favorite dbd lore bits is how it captured The Unknown, like that thing is a being beyond explanation and the entity basically sets up this reporter girl to unintentionally summon it to her and then the entity proceeded to just yoink it into it’s realm right before it was about to kill her. like it’s some cool bug it found or something. and the reporter was just caught in the middle of two otherworldly beings. dbd lore is pretty fun
8:13 I've heard that this anime character is actually Ruby Rose from RWBY, because of other voice lines calling a character "little red riding hood" or referencing a scythe
My main problem with Fortnite is how the crossover characters (well, all of the characters, for that matter) don't get to be the characters. No personality, no voicelines, not even any special abilities. You're not playing as Ash Williams or Peter Griffin or Batman, you're just playing as someone who *looks* like Ash, Peter, or Batman. At least, that's how I always saw it.
I think that the smash bros explanation also perfectly covers the inevitable crossover question of powerscaling. Most crossovers either ignore it or go with "the stronger characters are nerfed for whatever reason" but in smash it doesn't matter that little mac realistically can't do anything to most of the roster because its literally just some guy's imagination.
8:20 to be fair to this, rick has broken the forth wall on multiple occasions within his show. He is very meta character so it does make since for him to acknowledge the crossover aspect.
The multiverse seems like a really cool idea the first time you see it but after seeing it over an 100 times across movies, tv shows, cartoons, video games and comics you kinda get sick of it
Vecna is actually weakened in the entity's realm he has an entity mark on the back of his neck which powers him down and makes him access only 4 spells, pretty cool!
Also Speaking of Leon and Vecna and the rest Leon is RE2 leon so he isn't really nerfus but a new blood. And Chris can also be put here cause this is RE1 Chris And vecna is just mega nerf cause of the entity so
Brawlhalla actually have a good explanation, its Just that everybody there died and were send at their peaks to Vahalla, and they figit simply because its Fun and entretaining but in the end theyre all friends (sorta). We also have sum Legends (characters) that enter the Vahalla simply because they wanted to or had a objective to clear there, like Artemis whos basically the avatar of the universo who seek and Hunt Orion (for whatever reason). ALL of the original char have really great and (If u search enough) deep lore, like how the Fangwild war happend or the fact that Diana got Lost on a nigthmare limbo, its so cool to see how they interacted to those who lived at their time and so fun to see how they do It now outside of the fights in the Vahalla, and its kinda of justified since theyre all dead now (and cant die again) they just put their differences aside for the love of battles, but outside off em theyre kinda of just chilling togheter in the afterlife :D
Hey so you might remember me as the guy who saw the buckshot vid early (also congrats on 1k) but vid idea: content warning got a new update adding lots of new monsters so perhaps you could check that out since your first content warning vid was soo good
Yep! I haven’t seen anything in the update that I feel adds anything more than what I already said in that video so I’m gonna hold off for a bit and see if they do another update that’s more lore-focused!
I also remembered MatPat making a theory of how Ultimate's story mode is a representation of Sakurais opinions and thoughts on the big crossover franchise that he directed and how both of the main villains are representations of the people who get themselves invested and involved. Galeem and him using his army of Master Hands to laser all of the characters in the opening and then turning all of the captured characters into mass produced clones is a symbolism of how developers are giving up their creativity so that the big corporation can make more money out of characters like Mario and Link. While Dharkon and his army of Crazy Hands is symbolic for fandom toxicity and their crazy chaotic ideas on how do they want their favorite characters to be. And the 2 bad endings are symbolisms to how Dharkon imprisoning Galeem is like toxic fans forcing Nintendo to make games in the ways they want but Galeem destroying Dharkon is Nintendo silencing fans and preventing them from doing whatever kind of ideas they wanna do to their favorite characters (for better and for worse). I dont believe in this theory but its really interesting seeing the story mode in that way.
I really wish Fortnite didn't focus so hard on their multiverse/crossover stuff because, not only does it make their story more non-sensical and confusing than it was, but it overall hinders the game's story and gameplay severely at times. The biggest offenders being C2S5 having it's main content just be Item Shop skins rather than significant gameplay changes/new weapons and the collabs with Marvel ruining plotpoints and the overall flow of the story like the Zero Point plotpoint was rushed in C2S4, retconning a character in a comic just so they could give her a celebrity facemodel, revealing AND killing a PRIMARY ANTAGONIST in a comic and never mentioning it in-game, I could go on.
All that because the old guy who made the lore I forgot his name was moving to other company that I also forgot and the thing I like about the lore guy is that he hate what epic games do to the storyline..and I lost interest when one of the seven I forgot her name wasn’t the same girl who pilot the mecha in c1s9 :( no one understands how much I hate epic for that this was a popular theory in the fortnite arab community
As someone who has continued to play the game throughout this period of time, I can pretty comfortably say that most of the crossovers didn’t actually matter in the end, and can be pretty comfortably ignored. Chapter 2 season 4 is the only exception.
@@bracken8782 i would Consider Batman cannot be removed from the equation due to him basically bringing Foundation back so he could save Jones and flip the C2 island and all of that Also next season will be ANOTHER marvel season so ig we can't skip that
@@bndrxc5782there was footage shown of early development of the Colission live event, and there it showed Singularity's helmet, but a Seven version of it instead of the New Paradigm icon that we got, it was going to be her, MAN
6:07 given that like 90% of what Garnet was doing with her time on Earth was hunting down magical gem artifacts and finding ways to contain them... she might be right.
the reason I think DBD is the best multiverse game is because of a main reason original characters, corperates just use the multiverse as a way to bring YOUR favourite characters a game to get more money DBD has some other characters (nic. cage, Micheal myers, ghostface etc) but it never forgot it's roots of its of characters where they expand upon their own killer/survivor catalog (gunslinger, twins, oni etc)
The thing about The Iron Giant fighting is that it could be literally just be any number of other Iron Giants. Just make sure he doesn't have the dent on his head that reset his programming and made him peaceful.
Tbf, he can do that in game. He can make Flashbangs, plant bombs on generators, stab the killer with sharp objects, freeze them with chemical traps, ETC. He just can't ever kill or beat a killer 1 on 1, because the Entity buffs them to be much stronger than the survivors.
15:04 Vecna initially joined the realm to study the Entity, but the reason he is much weaker in the realm is because the Entity sealed some of his powers away. The “Entity’s Seal” can be seen on the back of Vecna’s neck.
Maybe I'm being annoying, but I think the initial description given to Dead By Daylight in particular seemed too generalized, since the goal of the "entity" is to consume the world, not destroy the multiversus, the entity even uses the multiverse to its advantage to collect the emotions it needs, I don't think it would like to DESTROY the multiversus (that's my opinion)
Sometimes you don't need an explanation other than, I wanna see Superman and Goku teaming up.
I feel like it’s getting lost in the sauce that in the first minute of this video I say I think all of this is rad as hell and I’m just purposefully being nitpicky for content lol.
@@NotFrickingNicknothing wrong with the grind
They wouldn't team up
@@dominicyeomans8107 Why wouldn't they? They each have teamed up with a bunch o' randos with the most bare-bones justification.
Fortnite can make anything possible
Sometimes the best explanation for a multiverse game is just "shut up, they're here now" instead of bullshitting some lore at people who don't care
Literally. That's actually a point I mention in my Multiversus vid lol. There's tons of crossover episodes from the IPs included in the game and most of their plots revolve around randomly being teleported to the same universe as X characters and they have to work together to defeat a bigger villain. It doesn't have to be crazy or whatever, it's just fun! :)
Didn't you realize this is why the first three is so weak on plot reasons? The game producer didn't even care about why as much as you do so they won't bother to think of a better reason. Then all leads to this video by criticizing on those don't care and touting on some childhood memory theme shit and in my opinion actually the most disrespect to those characters and their background deep into the basic lore😅
Before this video I thought that's exactly what fortnite did
I feel like people in general are too obsessed with “lore” nowadays.
That's literally why rivals of aether and Yomi hustle go so hard "stfu they fighting now!"
"If I were to rate how Dead by Daylight is doing their crossovers, *I'd say they're doing a pretty good job so far.*"
Had me laughing.
For those of you who don't know, this is a very infamous quote in the DBD community, as the director of the game famously said during a dev livestream "I think we've done a pretty good job so far" meanwhile the entire fanbase was essentially on fire due to the sheer amount of bugs and balance issues within the game. This line constantly gets meme'd in the community. I appreciate you putting this reference in, as I am 99% sure this is absolutely intentional. The wording is too specific to be random chance.
Luckily for dbd fans the game is a lot better now
@@ivanfelipe240 Absolutely. Now we can confidently say, they've done a pretty good job so far.
@@ivanfelipe240definitely. The concept is one my favorites and love the crossovers just glad that it is playable now
When I used to stream DBD, “pretty good job so far” would always be my donation chime 😂
It’s a common expression though
Real fans know that Smash began because Mario tripped Yoshi in the very first commercial and thus began the war.
The _true_ inciting incident was the Turtles, if Mario didn't hate Turtles, then none of this would have happened. "But Wendy, Bowser wasn't even _in_ Smash Brothers 64!" Oh no, not _that_ turtle, _The Turtles._ It was the song "Happy Together" that set Mario off, causing his PTSD, which made him trip the one closest to him, which just happened to be Yoshi. I'm not saying this absolves him of guilt or anything, he really needs therapy, I just wanted to point it out for clarity. I'm pedantic like that.
I think its also implied that the themes of burnout and creation in Smash Bros are indicative of Sakurai's own feelings working on the franchise over the years. And that meta commentary is cool to me.
@@syn-militia9059Bros the fun police.
@@syn-militia9059 what a weird thing to whine about lol
@@syn-militia9059Thank you! While I like a lot of Matpat's videos some of them are just straight up garbage clickbait, trying to make a theory out of nothing for views. I'm glad someone else sees it.
@@syn-militia9059 How would his SSB theories be ”click-bait” though?
I can get it with the ”I SOLVED FNAF!!!1!” videos, but Smash? _Really?_
@@amadeus.7436 honestly, agree.
Ik I basically a FN nerd for saying this but just to clarify and to keep things up to date:
1. The zero point is the center of all reality not just the source, which is also why it is in its own reality known as "Reality 0"
2. The nothing was not a significant villain, only ever having a presence in one season and even then, only had some dialogue but not even any form of design. The antagonist changed throughout the over 30 seasons of the game.
3. The Zero Point does exist in by chapter 5 but that island is not home to it and therefore isn't reality 0, putting the method of crossovers into question.
4. The Imagined Order never synthesized any island, the island itself is naturally made by the zero point to protect itself and is "Reality 0", with the exception of chapter 4's island which was forged by a story character using parts of multiple realities. We know this because the chapter 2/3 island was made by the zero point to protect itself, and the chapter 1 island existed before the imagined order found it.
10:16 I know self awareness
I would also like to put in that the I.O did put a few people in, but several others are where they accidentally were transported to the island thanks to cracks in reality called rifts
Also I.O never was wiping the minds of the island, the zero point did this as protection to keep people from using its power (the zero point is alive BTW)
I'd also like to add that each reality contains their own multiverses so their term of omniverse isn't just a swap out
and on top of that time travel got involved, so with the island we have now, it isn't certain where the zero point is or even what is going on with all the characters we knew before.
@@thingswithnate2815 The zero point still exist, from what I could gather it still exist either as the chapter 2/3 island or in the chapter 4 island as they were not erased from history, and the inhabitants of the chapter 4 island were simply transported to the chapter 5 island which could mean the chapter 4 island still exist or is going to eventually be remade as history repeats itself.
The whole "It's a kid playing with toys" thing for Smash was cool at first until you realize it implies a child has toys of Rated M characters and Samus in skimpy outifts.
I think it still makes sense. Like Bayonetta gets introduced in Smash 4, and if we follow the “person growing up theory”, Smash 4 would be when the person is a new adult or something
@CGFillertext with Marth and Roy being in Melee, you could say "so damn the kid got imported toys from Japan"
@@90sNathOr... The kid is from Japan... Like most of the franchises on Smash...
@@90sNath they’re not exclusive to japan, and the imaginary kid likely lives in japan anyways
Those are the anime figures.
It kinda feels like in smash 5 the characters being toys is less felt in the other games but at the same time being similar to smash 3’s lore
I watched matpats video on smash 5, apparently the world of light story mode is more or less the company vs the community, with galeem wanting to control all of their franchises and dharkon being very chaos heavy which is every community in a sense.
Its been a while since i watched it but thats what i remember from that video
Please just say Brawl and Ultimate 😭😭😭 /j
Calling smash games by their numbers sounds so fucking bad lmao
@@Visi0nss not joking, who tf says smash 3 and 5 😂
@@DoctorMario606to be fair, I call smash on Wii U smash 4, but ye calling brawl 3 is crazy
i’m a huge dbd nerd, basically the reason pyramid head is in the entities realm is because he is there to punish the entity itself. his main power is digging into the ground with his sword (the realm is made out of the entity itself). and he constantly breaks the rules by killing survivors by his own hand. also side note, the entity is not trying to destroy the multiverse, it’s only goal is to feed, but it can freely travel the multiverse and the trials take place in their own universe.
I heard he made an agreement with the entity to inflict suffering on survivors. But TBH that's such a cooler theory!
That is not correct, the Entity just made a deal with Pyramid Head. Pyramid Head is there because monsters in Silent Hill exist as their own beings. Same way as Maria exists.
Second, I’ll never understand where this killer is able to kill without hooks means the Entity has no say. If it happens in trial it’s because the Entity has allowed it. Also gameplay =\= lore accurate. Survivors die all the time without being hooked, even other survivors can kill other survivors
@@daniels2745 The survivors get brought back after kills, hook or mori. And can you elaborate on "other survivors killing other survivors"? Because I've never heard of that in DBD
That’s a fan theory that traces back to the TH-camr Pixel Bush, but it’s a cool one!
@@gizmoray721Uhmm.... Yes? I’m sorry I’m not sure what the Entity bringing back survivors has to do with my original point.
Sure, basically it happens in one of the observer’s Tome entries. He talks about a survivor being brought back after a trial, he goes crazy so three other survivors drown him in a puddle of mud
Disney should make a platform fighter where the story is just...
A bunch of artists that decided to draw Disney characters fighting each other to the death for kicks and giggles.
There's not even a true story mode, just Smash's All-Star Mode with a 'plot' and monsters made out of past movie villians...
And Death Trap Minigames.
That's actually not bad
finally donald duck can kill everyone
to be honest. a disney platform fighter would just be super smash kingdom hearts. kingdom hearts already has the lore. just shove all kh and disney characters into one game and bam.
Fun as that sounds, I think there were some issues while getting Sora into Smash because Disney didn't want their stuff in a fighting game? So while he did get in, direct references to full Disney characters were removed.
If they're doing that I don't see them making one themselves.
The closest to that is Disney Heroes: Battle Mode. Which is unfortunately a lame ass gacha mobile game. The art is the only cool thing about it.
Wonder why none of em just went with the simple route of "higher power forces them into a fighting tournament for its own entertainment"
you fool
playstation all-stars battle royale
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By all means isn't that just Smash Bros? Brawls starts off with literally just that with Mario and Kirby at a tournament, then the story focuses on villains attacking them and what their potential plan is, so while the main story strays from that, that seems to be something established in the very first mission. Then the whole invitation thing for various characters we see more of in later games
isnt this just dead by daylight but without the horror.
@@Aura404Speed the Smash Bros chars are not the real versions the video stated that
LEGO Dimensions had the best lore tbh. It helps that it's built off the LEGO Batman videogame lore, so we're following an established DC universe. I like how they give solid reasons to go to each universe (the Foundation Elements, fun ways to incorporate iconography of those worlds into a larger story) and it's super fun to see all the different character interactions. Vortech is an effective and fun villain, and the other villains included are cool too - though there is a bit too much emphasis placed on DC villains throughout the story mode
It's this game that makes me whatch doctor who.
Thank God for this
Multiverses needs Lord Vortech if they’re looking for a main villain, he’s already “some other reality’s problem”..
@@Alban_Blade_Memerhad no idea it existed before hand. Now almost 9 years after the games realise I’m getting the doctor for my birthday- and maybe chel
@@gregheffly2368 good for you Greg. I'm glad you remembered that game
@@Alban_Blade_Memer thanks
I love the fact that Alan wake He can be in any game without problems and excuse it with "the story just occurred to me while i was writing the end of the return"
Bro wrote himself into Fortnite because he thought it would be cool.
@@dragondelsur5156 I mean his lore in dbd is literally he wrote himself escaping from the dark place through the Entity's fog
Fornite
@@gremlinwc8996also it’s implied (very lightly) that alan literally made the entity and the entirety of dbd 😭😭
Funnily enough while Sadako might not make the most sense being in Dead By Daylight, the creator of The Ring actually made it canon lol
Same thing with Alan Wake. DBD is canon to their franchises
Can you explain how? I‘m actually curious
Curious as well here
my favorite alternate reality explanation is that they just always existed in the same universe and it was never brought up until it was convenient
The Capcom part of Marvel Vs Capcom?
Same.
Same For Every Work Of Fiction
The later Smash games are all just kinda… “yeah they’re here now.”
I think the first Smash’s world building was a real lightning-in-a-bottle situation. The fact that a child playing with toys fits the aesthetic and the lore so well for the first game allowed its sequels to focus on increasing the scale and incorporating more characters. When a new character is introduced, no one ever questions the in-universe justification; at most, people wonder if a character’s inclusion has implications towards the Smash Bros universe.
Multiversus: an entity wants to destroy the multiverse
dbd: an entity wants to destroy the multiverse
Fortnite: an entity wants to destroy the multiverse
Smash bros : childhood trauma and social rejection
the entity doesn't want to destroy the multiverse but it wouldn't care for destroying worlds, the entity feeds of emotion so what good would destroying the entire multiverse do for him?
@@Potable_scent You mean the Multiversus, Fortnight, or DBD entity?
@@dr.archaeopteryx5512 DBD entity's name is actually the entity
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale: Playstation characters learning about some special power/treasure/unknown threat and going in their own quests to find it by fighting other characters they come across.
Blazblue Cross Tag Battle:
A robotic entity captures characters from other worlds for some sort of tournament hosted by the entity itself.
The Entity from DBD less wants to destroy the multiverse. Just feed off of it.
As for The Nothing in Multiversus, it's less an entity and more a force. The Nothing in The Neverending Story is just a cataclysm that feeds on imaginination, since The Nothing is all of the forgotten dreams and hopes of mankind. It's more comparable to cynicism and a loss of drive than anything. It doesn't destroy because it wants to, it destroys because it exists. The Manipulators and Xayide have more claim to wanting to destroy the multiverse, and in The Manipulators case that's debatable.
I find that funny how they trying to explain why superman is fighting morty. The soluce of "this is not the true characters" work so much better.
The funniest part of Smash's premise is, since Joker has the ability to enter people's cognitive realms, it's possible he's the only canonical character there.
New smash lore: joker is a schizo
I heard a similar theory of Sora being the only canon being in Smash
The Kid Icarus characters are actually canonical in Smash since they reference Smash many times in Kid Icarus Upraising.
@@Sr.BulletBillI wouldn’t say canonical to smash, but more it’s canon that Kid Icarus is aware that it’s a game developed by Nintendo. It’s why they do fourth wall breaks such as them avoiding anything Metroid related due to copyright laws or something.
Something about the entity is that it doesn't exactly want to destroy the multiverse. Instead it unintentionally does that as a bi product of searching for food across realities.
"grand daddy of all crossover games"
The disrespect to X Men vs Street Fighter
Meanwhile, KOF 94:
Lego Dimensions:
Seems he forgot there were crossovers before smash 🤣.
@@novameowwwkof 94 is not exactly a crossover because all the character are from the same time and universe. Now neogeo battle coloseum can be called a crossover because it have characters from different times and places.
@@lordkaicer AoF takes place 20 years prior to Fatal Fury though. and the athena & ikari warriors parts weren't even part of the southtowniverse prior
even if that weren't true, crossovers are just when any two series, well, cross over. it doesn't matter if they're in the same continuity at the same time
6:20 player first confirmed in the pve trailer the universe it takes place in is a brand new one called wb-35c so I imagine the reason it can pull charecters like neo and toons is just because if you manifest them, they arrive other charecter acknowledge the other as fictional in their own reality like the batman who laughs that says in one line bugs bunny is a “toon” I think wb-35c works with metaphysical and physical things
I think my personal favorite type of Multiverse lore is for games like Project X Zone or Street Fighter X Tekken, where they simply say that its a universe where where those characters just exist together in the same world. Brawl sorta goes in here as well.
Super Robot Wars also does this. Where all the Mecha series in each particular game simply exists in the same world. They even added a few extra bits and small changes for the many Mecha series to work better together.
in Project X Zone 2 there's a whole thing of them coming from their home universes
@@tableprinterdoor some specific series that couldn't be tied to some do kinda just exist on there one, but the majority (All of them if just talking about Namco X Capcom) come from 1 of 4 places iirc. Earth, Makai, Holy Realm, and the Future. And then there are characters who are able to travel between these on the usual.
The King Of Fighters did this so hard that at some point during the second arc it kinda stopped being a crossover
Theres Marvel Vs Capcom too
Bro actually plays these games for the plot 💀
I was looking for that one
Figured. I knew there would be at least one of these
You don’t?
@@rapid9496 I was saying that as a joke and didn’t finish the video, sorry.
Rick making the Meta joke about the anime character is very in character for Rick. He's constantly breaking the 4th wall in the show and he's even aware that he's in a fighting game
Doom eternal does this in an interesting way
While the main story doesn't have it the multiplayer has this where the doom slayer is going to multiple universes and killing their demons, but due to him entering their universes their worlds affect his armor, basically the reason theres skins
In the actual lore of Kid Icarus, Smash Bros. DID happen to the characters, which gets discussed both in their game and the fourth installment of Smash Bros.
The series also has no fourth wall, so take that as you will, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
To be frank, I believe that Smash is canonically also a game in universe. During the Tutorial Palutena mentions the Dodge is similar to the one in Super Bash Sisters, while Pit corrects her saying it’s Smash Bros. Donkey Kong (the game) is also mentioned by name.
The fourth wall is mostly just a suggestion there too, as Viridi actually tries to stop Pit from breaking it in one of the later chapters, meaning she at least respects it. It exists, it’s just a majority of the cast don’t actually care about it whatsoever.
It’s actually been a while since I played Kid Icarus Uprising, really should go back to it. (I have most of the games levels with the Gold marker, meaning all treasure collected).
The Palutena’s Guidence, and those like them, mechanic in Smash is presumably the ACTUAL versions of the Characters, though. I think one of the Fire Emblem Characters, Chrom I think, shows up to talk too. I really like how Viridi completely nerds out during Plant’s Guidence and lists literally every subspecies of Piranha Plant across the entire Mario Series. They ported and expanded the Guidence over to Smash Ultimate, though the Codex Calls in Snake’s Stage and the Star Fox conversations in one of those stages are directly ported, which includes outdated information.
To add onto the vecna part, he himself was so powerful that he was branded with this "seal of negation" by the entity to dampen his powers that you can actually see in game behind his head. It was a cool lore tidbit Cote revealed in an interview.
Oh i thought it was that he didn't have access to the weave where all magic comes from in dbd and only has the power the entity gives them
the mark was to nerf him during the trials though, not in the realm in its entirety, since Vecna is in no way more powerful than the Entity, even in his lore, even though he managed to hold him back temporarily, he said he had never seen such great evil as The Entity. Also Pixel Bush who is a great DND nerd explained how he is nowhere the entity's level of power and has gotten himself into a situation against a foe he cant defeat.
17:50 Mathieu Cote would be proud to hear that
Super smash bros lore: Mario and Friends play ground
Fortnite lore: OMNIVERSE
“LEGO Dimensions” is also worthy of discussion here, it’s fun how they combine different LEOG universes together
I actually loved the idea of Smash’s Lore the most
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Huh?
@@noobed9646 “we’ve done a pretty good job so far” is a meme in the DBD community. It originates from one of devs saying as much, despite the game being in a very rough state to say the least.
@@roboticminer8843 oh cool sorry I'm into DBD but really casually and really only read about the lore so I didn't know happly now I do thank you
@@noobed9646 no problem man
The fanmade flash character fighting game 'Flash Bash' has some pretty neat lore. After Adobe Flash was deleted, the multiverse was seemingly destroyed, however when ruffle was installed it was brought back, but it wasn't perfect, main characters got sucked into a Nexus point where all flash games worlds meet. Juliet from NT Creature and The Visitor took over in secret. We get a fight between Henry stikmin and Max/Dart Monkey, before they realize they're on the same side. The rest of the story mode is them at getting all the heroes to join them, so they can go fight The Visitor (who overthrew Juliet). They beat him up, and everyone goes back to their respective universe after ruffle gets an update to fix the bugs.
It isnt really the IO sending people to reality zero. The Zero Point has connections to every universe and because of how powerful it is to obtain, reality zero gets a lot of chaos thrown at it. I think at this point after all the chaos theres really no controlling where the rifts go so anyone can rift into the island.
Theres genuinely a lot of different reasons certain people get rifted in, it just depends on what story characters end up finding their dimension and recruiting them.
I've haven't heard that the entity wanted to destroy reality, I've only heard that it was a hungry boy and grabbed some snacks.
Yay that’s the actual lore the entity is a threat to the multiverse but it doesn’t want to it just doesn’t care that it can if it continues
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@@lagrush9039 sorry
@lazyvoid7107 sorry I forgot there some hints that it was female
I (personally) still think Fortnite does it best when it comes to actually *trying* to explain what's happening- rather than copping out.
Multiversus has the obvious 'day one draft' lore that's probably never going to be rewritten and Smash tries to avoid explaining it altogether by being very vague- but Fortnite's lore progressively explains what's going on despite not REALLY knowing what's going on.
Every season (for the most part) introduces another faction on the defending or opposing side with their own reason for doing what they're doing- ever slowly but surely explaining why 'x' happened after 'y'.
Literally four seasons summarized:
Super powerful alien cubes are appearing around the island-
The IO starts looking into it.
Oh it's literally a mothership dropping them,
send half the island's population on a suicide mission.
*Oh fuck, that didn't work.*
Lore being explained isn't my favorite thing. When you have to piece the puzzle together to find out the lore. Is just better but you can have your opinions. Just Fortnite kinda just look at this look at that.
@@jaysvanfullofsongs8544there’s still tons of different fortnite theories and whatnot people believe, nothing is really set in stone
@jaysvanfullofsonthegs8544 the main part of the Lore is on the Story Quests so you can do those and get up to date on that Season's Lore
@@DUCK.aka.Red.on.Twitter I didn't know story quests even exist. I don't play Fortnite much
Umm, fortnite has a lot of plot holes and retcons. It's really not that good.
An anime character coming to Multiverses?
Okay that's definetly Jotaro. Warner brothers owns David Productions, and if they're smashing IPs together and seeing what sticks, they might as well add a popular anime IP
Its ruby rose shes been mentioned in leaked voice lines
The only other possible 2 are naruto whose name was in a datamine but could also be replaced by an original character and goku because morty has a leaked voice line where he shouts kamehameha
@@monknisandotherthings Oh... They're REALLY milking the dead cow that is RWBY...
@@QueenofAgnuslol man salty cause he won't have his shonan protag xD
@@syn-militia9059 Nah I ain't salty, I just sat down and thought what anime character that Warner Bros own can be put into Multiverses, David Productions came into mind and with it, the good ol' Stardust Crusader.
And I am legit lamenting how much RWBY has been milked. Ever since the creator died it got worse and worse... Hell a smut fanfiction written by a basement-dweller is better than what Rooster Teeth wrote.
Now that Rooster Teeth is gone, I VERY much hope that RWBY is as well... That franchise shouldn't suffer
@@syn-militia9059 my guy, do you think jojo is for kids? the same jojo where a mother is forced to eat her kids (whom are alive), where a guy stabs a cat with a fork, where a guy EATS a dog/cat
its a Seinen (targeted for young adults)
think before you write my dude
also jojo would make a better character than a rwby character, just look at asbr
One of the funniest things In DBD Is the Demogorgon from Stranger Things.
Out of universe, due to licensing issues, it couldn't stay In game for long.
In universe. The Demogorgon just stumbled into The Entity's realm, screwed around a little bit, got bored and left.
Then he got bored again and went back to the Entity's Realm
6:50 oh come on he is not even fighting, he is just playing, until he enters his combat mode of course but maybe he got mad
Speaking of smthat, some fighters in Multiversus dont fight in the traditional sense. For example, Tom and Jerry are just trying to kill each other and the damage they cause is purely collaretal, or Taz, who i doubt he is fighting, more like he is trying to eat you, and Lebron is just playing basketball.... well you get the point, some of those fighters arent fighters
Iron giants "rage mode" trigger is literally called "protect friends" they havnt contradicted him at all
Bro Multiversus cam out 2 years ago and Fortnite is about to be 8 years old. The lores are similar because Warner bros and Fortnite both had original characters to be the main antagonist and each crossover does sometimes have to do something in the storyline of Fortnite.
Fun fact there’s a theory that the kid in smash’s lore is sakurai and the game is about sakurai’s life and upbringing he’s the kid with the imagination
Something I haven't heard anyone ever mention for smash, you could say that Sora, being the final character for Ultimate, represents childlike wonder and joy, rekindling your love for fun, and stuff like that. This mainly comes from both Ansem the Wise's speech in Dream Drop Distance, where he says that Sora's love for other people is so great that he can bring things to life by seeing them, and this is obviously echoed in his smash trailer, where his joy and optimism quite literally bring the toys to life, reigniting the faded flame of imagination, and this ties into Kingdom Hearts' themes of growing up as well
Shame that Nomura almost rejects Sora in Smash (he's obsessed with canon).
@dragondelsur5156 that's actually not quite what happened, he wasn't sure if Sora's source material would be respected, stuff like only him wielding the keyblade of light, or that they wouldn't do him justice, which seems silly but if you look at characters like Sonic, you can see where he's coming from
I find it kinda funny how of all these games with tons of iconic characters, Smash Bros seems to be the only one that actually got creative with its lore and not just being “A powerful entity named The _____ wants to destroy the Multiverse, and its actions lead to people from other universes mashing together to beat the crap out of or even kill each other”
What would that be friend?
@@Spino-hx2mr What would what be?
@@LucasHopkins2006 What sets it apart from the others?
@@Spino-hx2mr Oh, right. Unlike the villains in the other three games, Master Hand’s goal isn’t to destroy the Multiverse, it’s just a kid playing with his toys/figures (also it isn’t called The ______, like the other three), in-universe, Master Hand/the kid’s goal is just to have fun
@@LucasHopkins2006Fortnites major villain was Geno a guy who wanted to create a perfect society in all realities. The Nothing, was a different faction that wanted to destroy the island and all realities. Anyways the current villain Megalo Don is trying to turn the island into a wasteland not destroy it.
How much you wanna bet the villain is called "the Nothing" because they legitimately couldn't think of a villain and decided "hey this sounds cool?" XD
That's from NeverEnding Story
@@pocodyess6050 I know that's the theory, but that doesn't necessarily mean its true... They have yet to confirm it. And its not the only multiverse game with a villain called that.
No, multiple games and series wouldn't all coincidentally just go 'eh, I can't think of anything, good enough'. It's more logical than that- if a game or story is about everything coming together, then what's the opposite of that? Nothing. Emptiness. It happens a lot that way simply because it makes sense- it's the opposite of worlds converging.
“At the end of the day, Nintendo is still not your friend. To them you are still just a sack of cash with arms and legs” is so real
I have had a dream of making a game one day, and although my game doesn't surround any sort of multiverse concept, I have thought of crossovers as a possibility.
I feel like most games that aren't fighting games tend to keep everyone on a fair playing field by simply making their big IP characters a skin instead of an actual 1 to 1 character from their original world, mainly with Fortnite and partially with MultiVersus.
Considering I had a dream of a hero shooter, if I wanted to do a collab, I ain't going the cheap OW2 route of some overpriced skin. I would KILL to have the character fully realized as who they are in the best way we could, between their moveset and their personality. Kinda like how Marvel Rivals is doing it.
Sorry if this was completely off-topic. Just wanted to incorporate my 2 cents.
No I completely agree a cross franchise hero shooter or similar could actually go hard honestly it’s always nice to see characters use their full avaliblity of power like with smash etc (though obviously not every character in smash’s moveset is 100% accurate it still contains the main aspects of their franchises etc)
Why not make a game based on public domain characters and make their power sets match in game?
@@unusualusername8847 na but that's actually a fire Idea
@@unusualusername8847 I remember I used to brainstorm for something like that, the thought of different fairy-tale and mythology characters fighting each other is actually really cool. Like, just imagine Alice (Wonderland) teaming up with Loki (Norse mythos)
If you take a deep look at iron giants move set he’s actually not attacking people, he’s mostly just playing with scrap or accidentally hurting others because of his size, like when he’s laying down on the ground.
Multiversus taking place in a server would explain further anomalies, such as the Gremlins characters' apparent immunity to "sunlight"; if it's not actual sunlight, it's not dangerous to them.
On the other hand, we see several stages in the launch trailer, each seemingly scooped out of their world of origin and just floating in space... this is similar in appearance to Space Jam's setup, BUT still different- there, each world was its own self contained planet; here, each stage is closer to a diorama than a miniature digital ecosystem. Plus, more stages appear over time, and the Space Jam court is one of these self-contained stages that manifested later than the others... which suggests something more like these areas are getting pulled into one place similarly to the fighters.
As for why everyone's fighting, I think I heard somewhere that the fights themselves either combat the encroaching Nothing, or feed it... I can't recall which. This suggests that either A: characters are dealing with the Nothing in the only available way, or B: The Nothing is encouraging these fights somehow to strengthen itself. We might learn more later on. There were other original characters discovered in development- I guess we'll see if they come to the game later on! I really hope they get foreshadowed decently before time so we don't get a Banana Guard scenario where the new character is revealed and the most vocal of the community act really upset. As for another Zanifeer resident, one of the devs does have an older or possibly evil-looking version of Reindog as their profile picture...
MVS and DBD were the only lore explanations I was familiar with, so it's cool to hear about the others! Nice video.
10:31 The reason you thought that was probably one of two things
1. There is an item that used to be in BR that let you redeploy your glider when jumping.
2. In Fortnite creative you can toggle on a setting that allows the player to redeploy their glide in your maps.
Here is an idea:
Make a new god character who is bored in the Void. He has siblings who created universes/multiverse/realities of their own. This god liked their creations and asked to borrow them. His siblings refused. So this god decided to "copy" his siblings' creations and put them in his own universe where they co-exist or fight to the death.
Ngl, this is my head-canon for Smash, with "god" being a lonely, only-child who watches other universes (a metaphor for watching other kids play video games with their siblings) and he makes copies of the characters with his imagination (and his toys).
can i use this for something?
@@JOTAPHOBIA_TXT If you mean my idea, then go ahead.
Since when did Multiverses have lore?
Since their early beta back in 2022!
It’s literally in the character bios on the official website.
Since the beginning.
Even I was aware of it and I didn't play it.
@@NotFrickingNickbtw, the trapper is very more nuanced and has lore of possibly being convinced by his father to harm workers and is innocent.
Cosmetic descriptions say he used to put traps in the mines to catch the workers and that’s how he discovered his true self, so I see it as his tome lore being the catalyst that turned him from being more sensitive to having the kindness stamped out of him and turning on the workers entirely. But yeah there’s room for interpretation
I think the most simple way to summarize every single explanation truly is, the companies just want your money and want to bring fan favorite characters, the difference is that the excuse from each game for that is more elaborated than the other
That is entirely the thesis of this video summed up nicely!
Your fortnite explanation was really good but I do want to add one supporting thing, that the crossover characters being in the game does depend, for some characters it was Jones’ doing and for others it was the zero point just pulling them from their realities. That’s all. Don’t mean to sound like a 🤓 but yeah just wanted to add that
I appreciate it! I was confused if 1) they were hand-picked and 2) why they’re still happening after the IO went away so I’d imagine it’s partially that second thing you mentioned?
@@NotFrickingNick yup, we see in one of the Naruto trailers for example that Itachi and others came to the Island through a rift
@@NotFrickingNickthere was whole season ages ago where this guy John Jones recruited a multiverse team of bounty hunters as example of people purposely collecting sepesific people. Also dr strange teleported himself there willingly to help fight in a war and so on and so forth
@@NotFrickingNickanother thing, the nothing didn't create the imagined order or working with them, the organization you were thinking of is called The Last Reality. Then again the old story seems to have ended with the big bang event at the end of chapter 4, so who knows what the story of fortnite is now
Some games have no lore like Rocket League but for some reason have lore for exactly one crossover. Like Rocket League's hogsticker hae HALO canon as a cancelled experimental warthog of which only one prototype exists which somehow landed into the world of rocket league.
Also since rocket league is now canonically a part of fortnite I guess every single rocket league collab car was caused by Fortnite's lore rifts. Just imagine some dude lost his honda civic to a crack in the sky
I would argue that Smash has distanced itself from the toy concept since around Smash 4, with trailers often using the invitation and other scenarios set deeper within the fighters' homeworlds. I remember noticing one of the Directs where they explained Spirits using terminology about "the real world" and "the world of imagination," saying that discarding spirits is sending them back to the real world, while the final game says that you're sending them back to their original worlds.
This is totally unrelated but regardless what you say of the theory that Alan Wake created the entity... my theory is that the entity is actually just the dark presence and that the entity's realm is inside the dark place.
Also it would be fun to think that the entity is also the same one as the Evil from Evil dead since Ash got into the realm by mispelling something in the Necronomicon again
15:46 Similarly Bill Overbeck can’t find a molotov cocktail on the ground or on a shelf and burn the killer alive or find a shotgun just on a table
11:41 No, no, you're right. Fortnite lore has so many plotholes and retcons I'm not even sure what's canon anymore and I've been following it since launch lmao
So true
Trapper's lore is actually a bit sadder than that. Trapper actually was really nice to the workers, but when another worker ratted on his kindness, he lost all sympathy for them. He slowly began becoming more and more like his abusive evil father who killed his mother, and one day he blew up the mines trapping all of the workers inside and then killed his father before being taken by the entity. There is a lot more to it then that but that was just my quick summery.
The devs of MVS have been shown to have alot of love for the game
And i love the fact that doom guy and isabelle is officially a couple in smbu.
The best explanation is “yeah Gordon freeman is beating the shit out of gumball what’s it too you”
The Entity from DBD just wants to keep living and thriving. It feeds off of hope, so it uses the Trials as basically a facotry for it.
If it were to destroy the Multiverse, all of its playthings that give it its food would be dead and so would it
The Entity also has had to bother nerf survivors like Cheryl Mason (Silent Hill) and some other survivors that have access to magic. It also buffed certain killers from their respective universe, like Twins, Legion, Plague, and a few others
Can’t have Cheryl having access to her “HEZAH BEAM” and “sEXY BEAM”
Don’t you just love it when someone makes a video covering an incredibly specific topic that you are absolutely crazy about? I know I do. Crossovers are wonderful, usually stupid fun, and I can’t get enough of them.
I wanted to bring up two games that I love following the lore of despite the fact that they want your money, but my enjoyment of both has endured to this day. Those games are LEGO Dimensions and Disney Heroes: Battle Mode. And I’m only gonna be talking about the former, because the latter has been around for 6 years and I don’t have time to talk about both.
LEGO Dimensions was the last entry in the “Toys-to-Life” craze that Skylanders had kicked off. You’d buy a starter pack, and if you wanted more content, you’d go to the store to buy more physical toys. I’m proud to say that I still have the entire collection to this day (With the exceptions of Supergirl and Green Arrow. Screw them).
The plot kicks off with a dimension-hopping tyrant named “Lord Vortech” and his robot minion, X-PO, finally finding the dimension that Vortech had been seeking for years: Foundation Prime. The two unearth tablets that depict “The Foundation Elements”. They are described as “artifacts from the start of time”, as well as “the cornerstones of time and space”.
These elements consist of:
Kryptonite (Any will do)
The One Ring
The Palantir (Why does LotR get two?)
Captain Metalbeard’s Treasure Chest
The Red Ruby Slippers
Homer’s Inanimate Carbon Rod
Master Chen’s Staff of Elements
The Flux Capacitor
An Aperture Science Cake (Which is not a lie)
A P.K.E. Meter
A Gold Token from within a Midway Arcade Machine
And The Diamond Scarab (Found in Scooby-Doo’s dimension)
Despite X-PO’s warnings, Vortech banishes him, briefly loses control of his body, and realizes that physical dimension-hopping is getting harder, so he builds a castle and starts summoning villains from other dimensions and forces them to go grocery shopping for him.
Our heroes, who are the only canonical ones because they are in the starter pack, consist of Batman, Wyldstyle, and Gandalf. Each of them go through the same motions of witnessing their friends (Robin, Frodo, and MetalBeard) getting captured by Vortech via portal because they were each holding a Foundation Element.
The trio end up in another original location called “Vorton”, which becomes their base of operations. They rebuild the portal that exploded after they arrived, and they use it to travel to wherever the computer needs them to go. Er, but not Foundation Prime yet. Its location is unknown at first.
I really want to tell the whole story, but I gotta hit the sack, so I’ll just bring up how this game handles timelines. Needless to say, it’s all over the place. Some are easy to pin down as taking place after their previous installments, such as The LEGO Movie, Portal 2, and the LEGO Batman Video Games. However, the intro makes it very clear that certain canon events and timelines are going to be thrown out of whack, confirmed by The Lord of the Rings. Gandalf’s introduction to the story takes place during Fellowship where he falls to his “death” with the Balrog. Batman ends up falling with him after he chased Robin through a portal back home. This is the part where Miguel gets pissed. Batman saves Gandalf, Frodo gets captured as the two give chase, and the rest of the fellowship just wait there. Forever. Even after the game’s end. I guess the Orcs who were shooting at them were so shocked that they all fled?
So, yeah. That’s the intro to LEGO Dimensions. It’s a very strange mixture of a crossover where some characterizations and timeline placements are accurate, while others get tossed into a blender. If it weren’t so expensive to buy those toys, I’d highly recommend it! It’s one of my all-time favorite crossover games! Also Sonic Games. Yeah, he’s here, too.
The dbd explanation is so good it's a big reason I love the game. The lore is just so interesting and playing it to find bits of lore is fun
I'd say "now do Kingdom Hearts" but there's no way I'm saddling you with that albatross.
Not an essay, just a tiny correction on the Fortnite lore. The Nothing doesn’t belong to the IO, but to another faction, and the central antagonists are the Cube Queen from the Last Reality and Geno from the IO✌️
About Dead by Daylight, I think its cool how Pinhead isn’t even forced in the entites realm, he’s just there cause he likes making people suffer. And his Mori just teleporting his victim away from the realm is priceless
Something else that I like about Smash Bros. reasonings is that even if we try to canonize it, the reason the character reveal videos give is every character going
"Gadzooks! I got invited to Smash Bros! I'll head over there now!"
Which I think is equally silly and fun, imagining the idea of someone like Joker getting a letter in the mail, dropping everything in life, and catching the nearest train or whatever to go wherever Smash Bros. is happening is just funny, alternatively sometimes it just feels like characters break in to Smash Bros. and everyone just has to deal with them now. It's a very fun idea that just lets you enjoy Smash Bros.
It’s funny that you chose picking Iron Giant as your example for Multiversus, when he is currently literally the only character on the roster that you can’t pick right right now.
I know I used all my fighter currency for him JUST for the bit of him beating up a kid for this video and now I can’t even use him 😭
@@NotFrickingNick It was fun while it lasted
Something important about DBD lore is that it is not trying to destroy the multiverse at all, in addition to this all the survivors are actually not exactly from the same universe, or at least there is evidence that shows other wise. The Entity takes people in multiple ways, either people go to it (Ash accidentally opening a book and getting sent there) or it goes to people (Too many examples).
Also slight correction on Vecna's lore, he has "The Mark of Negation" (red thing on the back of his neck) that limits his power. But he does want to take over the realm.
Overall, good video!
I don't care what anyone says. I like multiversus' lore. Also friendly reminder that the iron giant used to be a killing machine. He otibably just has a self-defense protocol or something.
Now make a video on fornite's lore, you coward!
I will probably not make a video on Fortnite’s lore. But yeah just because an explanation is “bad” in my opinion doesn’t mean the lore isn’t fun!
one of my favorite dbd lore bits is how it captured The Unknown, like that thing is a being beyond explanation and the entity basically sets up this reporter girl to unintentionally summon it to her and then the entity proceeded to just yoink it into it’s realm right before it was about to kill her. like it’s some cool bug it found or something. and the reporter was just caught in the middle of two otherworldly beings. dbd lore is pretty fun
This is high quality content i would expect from atleast a 1 mil subscriber channel. I saw it only had a thousand and subscribed
Thanks, appreciate it!
8:13 I've heard that this anime character is actually Ruby Rose from RWBY, because of other voice lines calling a character "little red riding hood" or referencing a scythe
My main problem with Fortnite is how the crossover characters (well, all of the characters, for that matter) don't get to be the characters. No personality, no voicelines, not even any special abilities. You're not playing as Ash Williams or Peter Griffin or Batman, you're just playing as someone who *looks* like Ash, Peter, or Batman. At least, that's how I always saw it.
Yeah that’s the point of “skins”, implying that everyone is a skinwalker. However creepy that might be.
I think that the smash bros explanation also perfectly covers the inevitable crossover question of powerscaling. Most crossovers either ignore it or go with "the stronger characters are nerfed for whatever reason" but in smash it doesn't matter that little mac realistically can't do anything to most of the roster because its literally just some guy's imagination.
8:20 to be fair to this, rick has broken the forth wall on multiple occasions within his show. He is very meta character so it does make since for him to acknowledge the crossover aspect.
The multiverse seems like a really cool idea the first time you see it but after seeing it over an 100 times across movies, tv shows, cartoons, video games and comics you kinda get sick of it
Vecna is actually weakened in the entity's realm he has an entity mark on the back of his neck which powers him down and makes him access only 4 spells, pretty cool!
The DBD explanation for fictional universes reminds me a _lot_ of how a certain 2018 indie RPG was made...
Also
Speaking of Leon and Vecna and the rest
Leon is RE2 leon so he isn't really nerfus but a new blood.
And Chris can also be put here cause this is RE1 Chris
And vecna is just mega nerf cause of the entity so
Slight correction, Chris was taken during Code: Veronica not RE 1
Brawlhalla actually have a good explanation, its Just that everybody there died and were send at their peaks to Vahalla, and they figit simply because its Fun and entretaining but in the end theyre all friends (sorta). We also have sum Legends (characters) that enter the Vahalla simply because they wanted to or had a objective to clear there, like Artemis whos basically the avatar of the universo who seek and Hunt Orion (for whatever reason). ALL of the original char have really great and (If u search enough) deep lore, like how the Fangwild war happend or the fact that Diana got Lost on a nigthmare limbo, its so cool to see how they interacted to those who lived at their time and so fun to see how they do It now outside of the fights in the Vahalla, and its kinda of justified since theyre all dead now (and cant die again) they just put their differences aside for the love of battles, but outside off em theyre kinda of just chilling togheter in the afterlife :D
Hey so you might remember me as the guy who saw the buckshot vid early (also congrats on 1k) but vid idea: content warning got a new update adding lots of new monsters so perhaps you could check that out since your first content warning vid was soo good
Yep! I haven’t seen anything in the update that I feel adds anything more than what I already said in that video so I’m gonna hold off for a bit and see if they do another update that’s more lore-focused!
I also remembered MatPat making a theory of how Ultimate's story mode is a representation of Sakurais opinions and thoughts on the big crossover franchise that he directed and how both of the main villains are representations of the people who get themselves invested and involved.
Galeem and him using his army of Master Hands to laser all of the characters in the opening and then turning all of the captured characters into mass produced clones is a symbolism of how developers are giving up their creativity so that the big corporation can make more money out of characters like Mario and Link. While Dharkon and his army of Crazy Hands is symbolic for fandom toxicity and their crazy chaotic ideas on how do they want their favorite characters to be. And the 2 bad endings are symbolisms to how Dharkon imprisoning Galeem is like toxic fans forcing Nintendo to make games in the ways they want but Galeem destroying Dharkon is Nintendo silencing fans and preventing them from doing whatever kind of ideas they wanna do to their favorite characters (for better and for worse).
I dont believe in this theory but its really interesting seeing the story mode in that way.
I really wish Fortnite didn't focus so hard on their multiverse/crossover stuff because, not only does it make their story more non-sensical and confusing than it was, but it overall hinders the game's story and gameplay severely at times. The biggest offenders being C2S5 having it's main content just be Item Shop skins rather than significant gameplay changes/new weapons and the collabs with Marvel ruining plotpoints and the overall flow of the story like the Zero Point plotpoint was rushed in C2S4, retconning a character in a comic just so they could give her a celebrity facemodel, revealing AND killing a PRIMARY ANTAGONIST in a comic and never mentioning it in-game, I could go on.
All that because the old guy who made the lore I forgot his name was moving to other company that I also forgot and the thing I like about the lore guy is that he hate what epic games do to the storyline..and I lost interest when one of the seven I forgot her name wasn’t the same girl who pilot the mecha in c1s9 :( no one understands how much I hate epic for that this was a popular theory in the fortnite arab community
As someone who has continued to play the game throughout this period of time, I can pretty comfortably say that most of the crossovers didn’t actually matter in the end, and can be pretty comfortably ignored. Chapter 2 season 4 is the only exception.
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@@bracken8782 i would Consider Batman cannot be removed from the equation due to him basically bringing Foundation back so he could save Jones and flip the C2 island and all of that
Also next season will be ANOTHER marvel season so ig we can't skip that
@@bndrxc5782there was footage shown of early development of the Colission live event, and there it showed Singularity's helmet, but a Seven version of it instead of the New Paradigm icon that we got, it was going to be her, MAN
6:07 given that like 90% of what Garnet was doing with her time on Earth was hunting down magical gem artifacts and finding ways to contain them... she might be right.
the reason I think DBD is the best multiverse game is because of a main reason
original characters, corperates just use the multiverse as a way to bring YOUR favourite characters a game to get more money
DBD has some other characters (nic. cage, Micheal myers, ghostface etc) but it never forgot it's roots of its of characters where they expand upon their own killer/survivor catalog (gunslinger, twins, oni etc)
Bro likes to find the “why” for these things 💀
I can never get over how great your one liners- comments are XD
I’m assuming this is referring to my seal in heat thing
@@NotFrickingNick just a bunch of lines throughout the video haha
The thing about The Iron Giant fighting is that it could be literally just be any number of other Iron Giants. Just make sure he doesn't have the dent on his head that reset his programming and made him peaceful.
Ash stripped of weapons would create his own weapons and any items around him hes literally used boiling water as a weapon
Womp womp
Tbf, he can do that in game. He can make Flashbangs, plant bombs on generators, stab the killer with sharp objects, freeze them with chemical traps, ETC. He just can't ever kill or beat a killer 1 on 1, because the Entity buffs them to be much stronger than the survivors.
Yes they did s pretty good job so far! DBD is my favourite Night Springs episode! xD
I mean tbh I’m just surprised multiversus was given lore at all
15:04 Vecna initially joined the realm to study the Entity, but the reason he is much weaker in the realm is because the Entity sealed some of his powers away. The “Entity’s Seal” can be seen on the back of Vecna’s neck.
1:30 wait, it has a plot?
Incase anyone didnt know, the "anime" character is Ruby from RWBY
Maybe I'm being annoying, but I think the initial description given to Dead By Daylight in particular seemed too generalized, since the goal of the "entity" is to consume the world, not destroy the multiversus, the entity even uses the multiverse to its advantage to collect the emotions it needs, I don't think it would like to DESTROY the multiversus (that's my opinion)