How to solve Shimano XT 12-speed Micro Spline hub creaking noise (M8110)
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- Has your fresh 12 speed Shimano XT hub started producing nasty creaking sounds? Mine has, and it seems more and more owners of these new Micro Spline family Shimano hubs come across the same problem. I have XT, but you might come across the same problem with SLX or XTR from this family of hubs. Luckily, in most cases there’s an easy solution. The video will help to understand if you have this problem either or a different one.
My other videos on these freehubs (M7110, M8110, M9110):
- • Shimano SLX, XT, XTR c...
MTBR forum thread on these hubs:
- www.mtbr.com/threads/multiple...
My case. Merida One-Twenty 9.7000 (2020 model, link below) with factory installed SHIMANO DEORE XT 148x12 (FH-M8110-B, link below) rear hub. Started creaking after ~500 km of use and increased further:
- www.merida-bikes.com/en/front...
Just in case you'd like to hear a silent work of this hub, without creaking. Filmed after the proper greasing is done:
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Contents:
0:00 - The creaking noise!
0:32 - Happens only under load
0:47 - Eliminating suspension as a source
1:04 - 51T rear cog
1:29 - 45T rear cog
1:57 - 39T rear cog
2:28 - 33T rear cog
2:56 - 28T rear cog
3:26 - 24T rear cog
3:56 - 21T rear cog
4:25 - 21T with much higher cadence
4:33 - The solution!
5:06 - Greasing the spacer
5:37 - Disassembly/assembly
#shimano #hub #service - กีฬา
UPDATE: After ~1200 kms (750 miles) of Winter riding my hub has started creaking again. Posted a new video of overhaul and regreasing:
th-cam.com/video/4hdCCBt8HQg/w-d-xo.html
Same issue. Took apart, re-greased the appropriate spots, re-assembled. Quiet as can be. Great video. Thanks!
Glad everything has worked for you! 💪
Thank you sooo much for the video! You saved me a lot of nerves. I had exactly the same problem on an SLX 7110 hub. Thought it was the spokes and nipples. Creaking appeared right after I had to swap 3 spokes... Now it's again quiet as before👍
I do remember myself checking the spokes either before finally revealing the true source 😁🤘
Found myself with this exact same problem on a SLX hub with approximately 150km. Searched everywhere for a solution and even priced up a new wheel set as I was so fed up. Luckily I stumbled on this video and sure enough after purchasing a $25 jar of premium grease the noise is gone. Thankyou for this information and solution
Hi Jon! The absence of clear information was the exact reason to publish this video. When I searched for the problem, the only source was the MTBR forum thread. We keep on riding! 💪
Thank you for the tip, I almost got crazy with the sound. Thank you!
You are welcome! In the end, this hub lasted 5000 km and died. Here's a video on it:
th-cam.com/video/cbQQCZ8Wfak/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for this video. I almost pulled my whole bike apart to find it! now i regreased the slx hub and its ok.
Welcome to "the club"! 😁 Most of us here did more or less this way. Glad the vid has helped.
Thank you for this video! 🙏
I was getting crazy with the creaking! As stated in the video it just needed greasing as it was bone dry.
One thing: if you by any chance pull the free hub apart it’s pretty easy putting it together as long as the parts are not damaged.
(For some reason one free hub flang was damaged so the cassette was stuck. I had to pull it with force which in turn pulled the free hub apart)
Have not dug into the freehub body yet myself. Thanks for the feedback, will keep in mind once I suspect smth wrong with it 😀
kinda worked this out for myself yesterday but this just confirms it (and i didnt actually add grease but just disassemble/reassemble improved it massively)
Time for a new wheel i think with a better designed hub!
My hero.
The Microspline grind is gone. Thank you Sir!
Keep on riding! 🤘 Glad the simple video helps riders get over this!
Dude, thank you - perfect solution - I retensioned my wheel *twice* thinking it was my “shimano lacing” attempt - no mention of noise there - BUT Googling “xt 12 sp noise” pointed me hear and the video was my noise!
I well understand, man! It’s not that obvious the noise comes from INSIDE of our hubs 😀 I run waxed drivetrain, and at first, suspected the narrow 12spd chain rubbing against the cogs with such a noise. Then I was checking all suspension links. And only after a while sourced the problem 😀 Glad to help a bit!
@@vladimirzavyalov Oh, yes, I thought my waxed chain was the problem too. Then my BB, finally the hub. Loving the silence now!
@@hawkeyelikesbikes Great! Please, take a minute in a while to post if your fix lasts. For me even some light greasing lasts for about 1K kms already. But some riders here have reported prompt recurrence of the problem.
@@vladimirzavyalov i got the correct grease, and got a 25 mile ride out of it before the noise returned. Put the PARK grease back in and completed a 35 mile ride this am w/o the noise returning - I did notice my plastic ring with the teeth is now toothless.
My man, i just spent a few hours on my e-mtb, taking the chain off (cut my hands a few times getting the quick lock to release), taking the cranks, motor cover and motor off (maybe motor bolts loose), cleaning the chain, cleaning the cassette, cleaning the chain again, cleaning the cassette again and nothing worked. I was about to order a new chain and cassette even though i just barely put 500 miles on my new bike. Your video is the only one i could find with this exact same noise! So glad to know the solution now! Thanks man!
This is becoming classics, Patrick! No one expects the noise to come from such a problem free source as a rear hub! 😀 Finally, we've made it! 💪
@@vladimirzavyalov can't thank you enough. Just to be sure i'm going to do this right, what did you do the remove the hub body? Take off the cassette obviously, did you need any special tools after that?
@@patrickspapens5497 Shimano manual (link in the description) will guide you thoroughly. Just some tips. After you remove the cassette, you need to remove a hub cap. Ideally, with a 17mm cone wrench. It might seem threaded, but it’s not. Just grab the side splines and pull it. It goes easy if done right. Next - a snap ring. Matching pliers would help. Now you are free to remove the freehub body. The sealing gasket will slide off together with it. You might want to keep the freehub pointing your ceiling while doing so. This would leave the hub springs perfectly inside the wheel without any need to reassemble them. Shimano suggests a special tool to press the gasket back in when you are done. But I did fine without the tool, just take care and evenly press it back. Check the comments here if you are not sure what grease to use.
@@vladimirzavyalov yeah at first the manual wasn't very clear to me but i used the picture of you video and went for the premium grease. I should have everything delivered in about two days. I didn't know you had posted a link to a disassembly video untill just now, which really helped. Got all the tools i need at work so it should be a piece of cake!
@@vladimirzavyalov quick update, it worked like a charm! Hub came apart much easier than expected. Thanks to the link in the description re-assembly was super easy. My bike is silent again!
youtube just showed me your video. I had the exact same problem on my merida One-Twenty 9.7000 this summer. solved it as you mentioned in the video. as a benefit my free hub is now absolut silent from slow speeds on.
How many miles have you managed to put in after the fix, Alfo? Lots of owners report that the problem is coming back quite soon. Mine is ok so far.
@@vladimirzavyalov about 200km´s (120miles) in mixed conditions.
@@alfo4c489 Let's hope it doesn't bother you again anytime soon! I'll update this thread with my further experience. Meanwhile, enjoy riding your Alfas and the 1-20 both 💪😁
@@vladimirzavyalov thank you! this year i had way more fun with the one twenty than with my alfas on track.. :) are you satisfied with the bike? i was thinking of buying some lighter wheels but i dont want to loose the totaly silence freehub..
@@alfo4c489 Merida is known to provide lots of value for your bucks, and 1-20 is no exception, I'm happy with it! Initially was thinking about a bottom mod of Cannondale F-si or Scalpel, but 9.7000 looked much better for the same price. I think our wheels are fine, not the lightest but pretty much balanced with other specs of this bike. At least for now I don't feel the wheels limit my own abilities 😁 Pro car racers do bike training now to be competitive, so a bike is a worthy paddock tool! 😉
Thanks for the video and documenting the solution. Just for the record to Shimano (in case they’re reading)... I’m also having the same problem with the XT freehub. I have done 11 rides with these wheels, and on the 11th (today) the freehub started creaking like crazy! What a mistake to assume that I bought a reliable wheelset. Shimano should do a recall on this POS designed freehub.
Update: I applied the lubricration as instructed in the latest dealer manual, and the noise didn’t appear on a 58km trip today.
I also get the feeling that it is coasting a lot more “truly silent” than before.
Hi, Charles! Thanks for your report. Shimano are hardly reading this particular thread, but be sure they are well aware of the problem. Otherwise there wouldn't be special service bulletins and updates on greasing in the service manual. A general recall would be fair, but too expensive, so they won't go for it. Hope you won't have to care about this creaking for some thousands of kilometers now! 👍
@@vladimirzavyalov I hope so too! 😊
I was also surprised to see that the area that requires lubrication, was completely dry.
Fingers crossed that it remains silent. Although it is not a too complex job, I don't look forward to tearing my freehub apart even 1000km 😉
@@charlesf9591 Mine has well passed 1K mark after greasing, so the odds are fine!
Thanks, I solved my problem in less than 30 minutes!
Great to keep riding instead of loosing time, glad it has worked! 👍😀
Works great, thanks buddy😊👍
Welcome! Glad to share! 🤘
Amazing video, I cannot count hours what I got almost crazy by dealing with cracking noises all around my bikes :) but this is really something. I am just before purchasing 1x12 SLX + SLX micro spline hub, but maybe I keep my 2x10 with HG hub which already has more that 4000 km and running as new , no maintenance to day :) every year new stuff new new new , new concepts, new shapes ... it just doen’t work like that if you want to make something really worth it. Fixing freehub every 1000 km it’s just not right.
Development of new stuff is a good thing! What is not good, is that manufacturers tend to utilize final customers as free test teams 😀 And even take the money for the products being tested. Occurs a lot now!
I am still dealing with this issue. Defective freehub outer cartridge bearing (bone dry, no grease). Only creaks under pedaling load, so I was thinking it was something with the chain, or some other creak. Started ~200 km after I bought the bike brand new. Finally I took it all apart and the difference between the two freehub bearings was obvious. I repacked it with grease and that fixed it... for a little while. Then I repacked it again. Currently, I am replacing the whole freehub body with a brand new one.
I too am having this problem.. I called some local shops and they acted like they have never heard of this problem.. Then I went looking online for this part.. That took a lot searching but I found one.. A 4 dollar part.. I watched a few videos on this and am still waiting on the part to come.. We will see how this goes..
same problem.. thank you for this video
Welcome! BTW After some fair amount of grease the hub doesn’t disturb me for quite a while!
Thank you now it is quiet 👍
Happy to share the experience! Enjoy your ride! 🤘
God bless you. You saved me!
🙏 Welcome!
Thank you so much for this video... I've managed to solved my freehub creaking. By the way.. My hub is a road bike hub.
A road one normally has different design, but I'm glad if this helped in any way 🤘
I’ve got this too. I just spent $120 at the local bike shop thinking it was the bottom bracket needed loctite. The proof was a wheel swap - silence! I will try this later today and report the results.
You don't expect the creaks to come from inside of your hub! 😀Before now, I mean! Normally a hub is reliable piece just sitting there and doing the work. Good luck with yours, some greasing should work!
@@vladimirzavyalov Exactly right. I spent a couple of hundred dollars on bottom bracket removal and insertion tools chasing this issue as well. Never did I think the hub could be the culprit, until the bike shop mechanic proved it was the hub. After all, press fit bottom brackets are prone to it, right? Anyway, good news. greasing the spacer and the teeth fixed it. :)
By the way, your link to the hub manual is broken. Newest one here: si.shimano.com/api/publish/storage/pdf/en/dm/MAHB001/DM-MAHB001-09-ENG.pdf
@@hawkeyelikesbikes While seeking for the creaks, I've checked all the suspension links, but didn't get to the BB. However, it was on my mind as well 😀Thanks for your notice, I've updated the link to Shimano manual. I can see they have updated page 25. It now instructs to apply more than grease than before.
@@vladimirzavyalov I've just checked all the micro spline hubs I have, including a non-series XTR level hub I haven;t yet built into a wheel. The older ones are all missing the grease. The newer XT hub I built up with 142x12 spacing to convert an older bike to 12 speed was OK. So I'm guessing this is an early production issue they have since learned from.
@@hawkeyelikesbikes Ok, let's hope!🤞But the whole story shows Shimano are struggling with this design. At first they wanted the hubs to be both grease and ratchet free (Scylence tech). Then they admitted a failure with this idea, added some grease and 50% ratcheting. Now they admit even more grease is required. We are final customers and buy stuff from Shimano, but actually do the job of their test team for free 😀
Had the same problem with same hub (after 1k), and even I thought that was bottom bracket problem, + weird fluctuating noise on a free wheeling. Sent to warranty, got new hub, no explanation why, well this seems the answer. And here we go again after only 500km on a new hub :). Atleast I got the answer thanks to you. Do you have to take out the all the hub or can you service it within the wheel, without taking out everything.
Hi, you need to take out the freehub body, but you can keep the springs inside. Just keep the wheel horizontal and work on your hub from above. The hub mech might seem a bit complicated with no prior experience, but actually there’s no rocket science there. Once you spend some time with it and the Shimano service manual, you’ll be able to disassemble and assemble it back easily. Don’t worry!
Just bought a Norco Optic with this hub, first ride when pedaling on the incline got nervous as I couldn't figured out what's grinding and creaking exactly like your bike. Sad that it came on right from the beginning. Both greases that are required costs around 30 euros so have no ideea at this point if I should buy them or just sell them asap and get some real wheels like dt swiss 350 hubs or even 240's . Anyway thanks for thid video and the recent one with the actual repair.
Pretty sad that you face this problem, but at the same time pretty happy the video helped you to save time and get into it promptly. Whatever you decide, just keep riding and enjoying! 🤘
@@vladimirzavyalov I mean besides that, you consider keeping them? I mean once in 6 months cleaning is still decent but every 4-5 weeks as some said around here is crazy.
@@Bogdan_Ch I'm with it for now. Since I've bumped into this problem, my obligation is to study it thoroughly now. And share my knowledge if it could be of any use 😀4-5 Let's see how many kms I can squeeze of it now, with more grease and Summer season!
Nice video I had a microspline slx hub with maby issues including this than just bought a brand new xt microsolije done about 10km on it and got this issue
Welcome to "the club"! 😁 Some grease, and it should be fine!
@@vladimirzavyalov When it is in freewheel mode, does it make sounds?
@@user-sk8os3sg2u In freewheel mode it can be both ratcheting and completely silent. Cause the hub can disengage in several ways. But there's no way to understand when it goes silent or ratcheting. Sometimes it ratchets for 3 sec after you stop pedaling, then goes silent for a while, and then ratchets again. Or vice versa.
@@vladimirzavyalov Does the hub work so strange since the beginning of use? Will it be completely silent with quality lubricants? Do you recommend it for purchase or is it worth taking the Chinese fast ace DA201?
@@user-sk8os3sg2u What you call "strange" is exactly the way THIS hub should work.😁 It works like this if everything is ok. It shouldn't be completely silent. But I don't have much experience with different hubs so far to vote for any.
Same problem with my Deore hub after 4900km. Although my hub has a play that causes the casette to move a lot!
I have a Deore Microspline (M-410-B) with 3 pawls. Does yours have the newer gear type mechanism just like the XT M8000 series?
Thanks for the video and solution!
I am facing the same issue, after about 500km with this new hub, and it seems related to a few recent bike cleans with a strong degreaser.
I schedule a service to next week to solve the problem, but my concern is if it will happen again after a few cleans.
One million question, do we need to keep the spacer in the hub? What happen if they are removed?
Thanks again for this video..
The degreaser is not likely to be a cause. These hubs are sealed pretty tightly, and even some "sealing grease" is used in them for the purpose. Probably, the spacer was completely dry from factory and would need lubrication. It will be silky smooth right after 😂
But do you know if the spacer is really needed? 🙂
@@joaobarbosa5757 It is, it works like a damper between metal gears inside.
My hub is brand new and it does this only in the lowest gear it happens when coasting too.. Does it happen in all gears normally?
Same creaky noise along the “Camino De Santiago” Trip. (15 days). A really nightmare
A completed Santiago trip is said to let go sins. Maybe your effort with this creaking XT finally lets go its sins either 😀
@@vladimirzavyalov 😂😂😂😂
My plastic spacer legs are gone when I checked them. Is the spacer important with legs still there?
Once the spacer is gone, freehub connecting splines destroy each other rapidly.
What is the cause of creaking
İ have bontrager 108 engagement hub with Shimano micro spline freehub body (12 speed XTR Casette). Creaking like this under heavy load, not this much but annoying me. Same procedure as this whole XT hub maintenance ?
If your Bontrager hub is smth like below, then it's a completely different story. It uses a traditional engagement mech, but Micro spline cassettes.
www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/equipment/cycling-components/bike-hubs-hub-parts/bontrager-rapid-drive-micro-spline-v2-12-speed-freehub-body/p/33874/
@@vladimirzavyalov Yes this is the one
I have DT 240 hub with Micro Spline freewheel and I hear the same creaking sound !? it usually start to make noise after 15min of riding...Is this posible?
Even Micro Spline DT240 has different inner construction to Shimano. Therefore you cannot simply apply Shimano experience to it. I wouldn't be surprised if a similar connection between the hub and the body creaked on DT as well, but you surely need a proof from an owner of your hub type.
None of the links you provided were any help 😢 the Shimano page was unavailable and the TH-cam video was "private" bummer
Hi. The video is very old, and the links have expired, unfortunately. I've posted a bunch of problem follow-ups on my dedicated cycling channel since then. Maybe they are of any help:
th-cam.com/play/PLOBp-2pbehRVTVaOOjTS2FLp9cO7dRGky.html
Hello, can I ask if this issue is happen again now with your shimano xt hubs?
Hi, Pierre! I did around 300 km after the fix. So far the hub is perfect! But it’s a little mileage still, it will be more clear after 1K 🤓
@@vladimirzavyalov hi, so how’s your hub now. Still going strong after the fix?
@@yasirsyamlahmuddin7582 Hi, absolutely! Did around 500 km after the fix. Going for a ride right now, it’s snowing, must be fun!
@@vladimirzavyalov glad to hear that. Enjoy your ride. Keep updating us on your hub
@@yasirsyamlahmuddin7582 Thanks! I'll surely do. The only update so far is that now Shimano instructs to use more grease on the spacer. You might have read this in the comments below. If not, I've just posted a pinned a comment with all the information. Best of luck with your hub!
I have the same exact problem on the same exact hub model. One question though, how is it that there’s ratchet sound on your hubs when you’re free wheeling. Mine is completely silent.
Hi, Cris! These hubs can be both ratcheting or silent under freewheeling. Some mech inside chooses this, and you never know what it depends on. Sometimes it ratchets for the first 2 seconds of your freewheeling, then goes silent for 5, and then goes ratcheting again. In this video it has decided to ratchet all the time 😀 Hope you solve the creaking and enjoy the hub!
@@vladimirzavyalov One last question Vlad. Would you say that water can be a factor with the hub getting noisy again? You know, with the grease getting washed out and everything because I get my bike washed after every ride.
@@siomaiting Clearly not a factor, I’d say! These hubs are thoroughly sealed and designed to withstand lots of mud and water. Waterproof gaskets are on the way, and Shimano manual even prescribes a special sealing grease around these gaskets to further enhance waterproofing. Your bike must be grateful for regular showers, it’s absolutely positive!
@@vladimirzavyalov thanks for the info Vlad. Keep us updated if the creaking happens again. Really appreciate your responses. Thanks again.
@@siomaiting You bet I will 👍 You’re welcome!
Special thanks to @turbine50
, who has posted the latest service bulletin on Micro Spline hub greasing in the comments below. The difference is that now Shimano instructs to use a fair lot of grease on the spacer. Before the instruction was "just a little bit of grease on the spacer legs". My XT hub is still perfect with just that tiny greasing and shows no reasons to reopen it. However, if you have to grease the spacer for the first time, you may be pretty generous with the amount of grease applied now.
Here comes the link to the bulletin:
drive.google.com/file/d/1Xl7GNwKBM4fDBi62swHjOzBcnz0mp3yJ/view?usp=drivesdk
I hate this issue. My 2020 Norco Sight VLT C2 E-Bike came with XT rear hub, and 12 spd XT drivetrain. If the drivetrain were SRAM (which I know, doesn't make sense) I would simply upgrade the hub/possibly entirely new rear wheel. But since the bike came with a fairly high end drivetrain that happens to be Shimano, I'm kinda stuck down this path. I've found that the re-greasing method lasts me about six weeks. And I typically ride around 40 miles (60 Km) per week. So I'd say the hub needs servicing roughly every 160-200 miles to mitigate the horrible creaking noise.
Was the spacer absolutely dry when you first took the hub apart?
@@vladimirzavyalov - Yep. It seemed like the hub was creaking within the first few rides.
Surprisingly, mine is still fine after the first greasing. Keeping an eye!
@@vladimirzavyalov I think the eBike might be harder on the hub in general. I’ve just got a friend ordering me a bro deal on an Industry Nine Hydra. I don’t wanna deal with servicing the hub ever, let alone every 4-6 weeks.
@@NevadaSmith2 True, the motor adds torque, and the combined value is much higher than what you naturally generate yourself! This or that hub, I wish you to ENJOY THE RIDE, that’s why we are in the business 😀
I thought it was the BB thats making the noise and apparently i bought a new BB and the noise is still there. I fixed a new pedal too but the creaking is still there. How i wish i would have seen this video before buying😤
This creaking is so mysterious! Happens right under your butt, and you cannot understand where exactly 😂 So familiar!
I Mind that was a Rear derailleur, upper pulley not perfectly matching the cassete.
Крче думал что чуть перекидка кривая или петух и гнул её во все стороны! и настраивал натяжение, Крутил винт B-tension, укорачивал цепь. НЕ хотел думал что это тупо втулка! казалось что не на всех передачах хрипит. Придется искать смазку и перебирать
Спасибо вам большое
Welcome! 🤘
same problem with my slx 1000km odo
Micro Spline SLX has been believed to be free of this for a while. But recently more and more SLX cases are also reported. Thanks for your note!
Hello sir how's your hub doing now?
Hi! Has been working fine this season, no creaking! 🤘
Opened mine up at about 800km (sound started around the 750 mark) and the said spacer had half is legs completely destroyed. Dissapointing durability i'd say. I filed the ones that were left and re-installed the spacer without the legs with a small amount of grease. Anyone had the same issue ? Hopefully it will last until i manage to get a new pair of hubs that are better quality. Fingers crossed!
How would you describe the work of your hub with this “legless” spacer now? Have you tried it already or not yet?
@@ZavyalovCycling so far only tested in the parking lot. sound seems more consistent and creaking seems to have stopped. We'll see on saturday, i have a riding day planned!
Hi, exactly same problem as mine, XT hub M8100, started creaking, i´ve done the procedure in local bikeshop, the hub was completly silent, but after +- 200 km started creaking again, i´ve repeated procedure with more grease. Again +- 200 the hub is silent, then horrible sounds from the hub has appeared. Now it´s destroyed i think, bcs even when back pedaling the freehub is still engaged and makes horrible sounds. Now I´m using my warranty, so I´ll see. I like Shimano, but this particular product is peace of .... , :/ i don´t get shimano poor quality control.
Hi Lukas, sounds quite disappointing! 🤪 With so many complaints it looks more like poor engineering than poor quality control. Mine is fine so far, but let’s wait for some 500 km. Thanks for your feedback!
@@vladimirzavyalov Pls, let us know how the hub works after 500 km, it would be great feedback. I hope it´ll still works fine and the shimano maintaince procedure will be ok. :)
Sure, mine gets some beating almost everyday. Let's draw more awareness of this problem!
Hi Lukas. Got my M8100 lubed today at a local bike shop . The creaking sound is gone with the hub being completely silent even on steep ascents. And just like you, I also hear weird noise whenever I stop from a long spin as well as when I back pedal. As of now, it only happens once in a while but I fear it could get worse in time and eventually, the hub can get damaged beyond repair. I don’t think Shimano sa addressed this issue or even admitted its existence. This is so frustrating because these hubs are considerably high end and yet it has poor quality.
@@siomaiting What does the bike shop say? Do they have lots of similar claims?
had the same issue. put some grease on it and the noise was gone 😃
Nice! The next question now is how it lasts. My first light greasing has worked for some 1000+ kms.
@@vladimirzavyalov after 500km i had to grease it 😂
it took me only 25 min to grease it. at first i thought my bosch cx gen4 is damaged. the creaking was nearly as loud as in the video 😨
Just a heads-up I have gone through 2 of these hubs and both had the same issues. As soon as you take the hub apart it's hit or miss if it likes the way you out it back even if done to spec. Mine both resolved after taking apart but failed again shortly after. I ended up buying 2x hope wheels with pro4 hubs and gave up on these new Shimano. Take one apart and see how unessicerily complicated they are with a wealth of plastic and rubber parts!! Terrible design
Was this Shimano hub your factory setup or did you buy it deliberately for a custom laced wheel?
First one came laced from factory on my Saracen Ariel on raceface arc wheels. Second I purchased individually and had laced by Local bike shop. Both failed exactly the same way. Started with creak and then lead to complete failure. The whole sylence thing seems a good thing but when you look at how it's all together it's terrible. Plastic toothed ring inside a metal ratchet is bad. Also I think I counted around 20 parts just inside the freehub that's insane! If yours go I highly recommend taking it apart and then complaining to Shimano. I saw a post with a guy who had this and Shimano sent him 2 hubs, special grease and couple other parts.
@@AlexRWilliams This was a post on MTBR forum thread, yeah, I saw it while searching for this problem several months ago. Depending on your exact location, the warranty way might be not a good solution. May take months! So far a bit of greasing has solved the problem for me. Once it fails like yours, I'll probably go your way and switch to a different hub.
I have this same exact problem with mine and everyone tells me I need to change to HOPE Hubs... My XT are less then 1 year old.. GRRRRR
When in doubt, always tell your mates to switch to HOPE hubs 😁🤘
Hi, I have the same exact problem, surfaced on the 5th ride or so, is this supposed to be a warranty issue that Shimano should fix or replace? Rather than opening it up, possible void of warranty, and using regular grease. Shimano premium grease is hard to find. By the way, do you have a video after the fix? THanks!
Hi, Christopher. Yes, with such a little mileage it's supposed to be a warranty issue. There's a link to MTBR forum thread with a confirmed warranty case. I guess you realize how much time the "warranty" way will consume. If this is ok for you, why not. I took the "after" video on this morning ride since you've asked. Please note I'm already in a different country with different climate 😂 But it's the same bike! The properly silent hub sounds pretty boring, doesn't it? 😂 Best of luck with your hub!
th-cam.com/video/yMYFDNciYwU/w-d-xo.html
@@vladimirzavyalov thanks for the reply and vid. I decided to return it to the shop and claim warranty. Please let us know how long the fix will make it silent or I hope it makes it a permanent fix. Re-greasing it very now and then would be such a hassle. I wonder what that part does that it makes a creaking grinding noise.
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@Maciej Jan Długosz
Yes, that was the original way to do it. Since then, Shimano has updated the procedure and published a service bulletin . drive.google.com/file/d/1Xl7GNwKBM4fDBi62swHjOzBcnz0mp3yJ/view?usp=drivesdk
@@turbine50 Thanks for posting of this new bulletin. Shimano have started with "just a tiny bit" of grease on the spacer legs, but now they have switched to "pretty generous amount" 😁
It just needs grease on the hub before installing cassette. Don't take apart the hub or bearings lol
So here’s a good video for overhauling, this was my bike by the way: th-cam.com/video/WKpjQDauw0g/w-d-xo.html
Would be nice to put a link to my video in your description as well then, wouldn’t it? 😉
I did, it’s on the shorter vid... your video helped me a lot
@@mrjohnny78 Glad it did! 👍I can see you also used an alternative grease just fine! Hope your SLX doesn't need any overhauling for some nice miles now 😀
This is simply piss poor engineering, i'll stick with my LX hubs thank you...
Glad it helps you with a decision! I did around 10K kms on my cx Cannondale SuperX. It’s not an MTB, but its “DT Swiss” style simple paw type hub takes some fair beating as well. I have only once looked inside the hub out of curiosity 😂 When you have to grease a creaking brand new hub after 500 kms, it’s surely not a great advertisement 😂
@@vladimirzavyalov I have superb experience with the older Shimano Deore LX hubs, been touring with the same LX hub across Scandinavia and Europe while the bike it's being bolted on to is also my commuter bike, it's such a cockroach setup, can't kill it, still on the same original freehub too, before Shimano started having issues with them, i also have excellent experience with the older Shimano high flange Deore rear hubs, my Surly Pugsley came with one, it's been rock solid with daily riding since the day i bought it in 2012. My Surly ICT that i built up has wheels laced on to a pair of Hope 4 fatsnows, so far so good, but i'm not liking the cartridge bearing design and the proprietary components that go with it, so i don't trust it for touring, the cycling industry really need to stop with the obsession of microscopic incremental changes that lead to evermore standards that will screw the customer over.
@@HansensUniverseT-A You must be a huge fan of press fit BBs 😂😂😂
@@vladimirzavyalov Oh yeah that absolutely stunning design that lasted a whopping, what a few years? I know the pain because i am about to send my Surly ICT bb straight to hell.
@@HansensUniverseT-A This allows to market threaded BBs as an advantage of new models now! You need a monster first to create a hero! 😂
I have the same problem 1500 km. Never buy a Shimano XT microspline. It's a shit 👎
Most owners got it factory installed with their new bikes. XT has been a solid choice for years. Who could imagine it would be compromised along with SLX and XTR from the same family? This new Shimano family got covid, it seems 😁