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Humans had a previous incident involving the Dodo. That's just the one I know of, I'm confident there are others. This situation wouldn't be too surprising to be honest.
Hey man that was stupid as hell for the humans to start transporting themselves at night who wrote this f****** s*** out there that hot ass son that's when they should have been making a movement to go where they need to go
Well in the opening credits, there's a headline that says the substitute the Germans came up with failed. Maybe there wasn't an adequate replacement. That said, making your "food source" extinct isn't a good plan either.
Note: the original vampires and mirrors thing had to do with the mirror's being backed with reflective silver. It was the pure silver that rejected a vampire's image, other reflections still work fine. Problem being that new writers over time completely forgot this, and mirrors these days aren't even made with silver anymore.
Also the fact that vampires couldn't cross running water (reasons) made it so in moving water like a spring or river they wouldn't see their reflection. Also it's nice to see a bunch of people here in the comment who know the silver thing! :D Also I think… very vaguely… that either Buffy or The Vampire Diaries actually explained this. I know someone in the last two decades mentioned the silver thing because it was one hell of a plot point. Something something "easier to hide identities when you don't show up in photos" something something.
Another fun theory (not my theory and I don't know if it's true) I learned that, supposedly the reason that supernatural beings considered to have some kind of connection to hell or "the forces of darkness" are weak to silver. It's because silver is what the Romans paid Judas to betray Jesus, and because much of the very first lore about vampires was made by extremely religious folk, that's supposedly why vampires, werewolves, and other things are weak to silver. Although personally, I think it should probably be the opposite, after all if it was silver that Judas betrayed Jesus for, wouldn't that make it a symbol of evil? And shouldn't it then make supernatural beings with some kind of link to hell stronger, not weaker? But anyway that last part is just my take on it.
They also used silver in photo recording. When you pour a sulphid tincture over silver, it will oxidate (blacken) when came into contact with light. They used this to record black and white pictures, and later on, even films.
@@aleclu8128 that’s predictions though. If you think about it we truly know nothing at all, we could simply be a simulation of some higher beings thoughts and we’re being played like the Sims games. And the chances of us being a simulation is quite high.
@@black_hand78 Sounds like you are just making things up as possible truth when anything the guy above said could also be true. So the answer to this crazy question is - nothing and everything ( so just dont think about it cuz it doesnt matter in the end)
The most terrifying thing in this movie. That chimps could become vampires. Animals capable of tearing humans apart can become immortal. Sweet mother of Jane
This movie, along with 30 Days of Night & Blade 2 impressed me with the fact that they found a new take on the on the over-done Vampire genre that I had never seen or thought of before.
@@calebgadison167 30 days of night wasn't generic at all, it was basically the first depiction of vampires being actual monsters, before this they were suave and attractive men or women who would seduce their victims into trusting them before drinking their blood.
@@calebgadison167 how? No movie ever had vampires just straight up attack a whole town like that. And Blade II is a consensus fan favorite for a reason.
This shows how utterly flawed a vampire society is as you only now have just the one food source to live off of. And if said food becomes scare they become more like monstrous animals way faster than a regular human would.
@@RoanokeGaming maeby they do, making cheap blood who is human blood diluted in animal blood, the cuality would depend on how much human blood is in the mix but still would be pretty crappy and dont serve as a funtional alternative
@@RoanokeGaming The only non vampire animals we see in the whole movie are bats so it would probably be safe to say that they had already exhausted every form of animal life before they drove humanity to the brink of extinction We don't even see birds so I don't think that they were spared either
This movie was the first that took the concept of immortality via vampirism to the next level, leaving vampires reliant on humans to the point of making the food supply finite, very interesting concept on this lore
I loved the take this movie had. Instead of the typical "monsters live in the shadows" type of deal, they actually tackle the idea of "what would a world run by vampires look like?" I honestly wish more movie studios tried this.
I feel the show had a lot of interesting ideas I just wished there was a bit more back and forth with humans and vampires power games Instead of vampires winning so hard that they destroyed themselves
Not a movie but if you're interested, read the book series The Hunt by Andrew Fukuda. The main character is a young human who lives in a vampire society and survives by pretending to be just like them. It really brought some interesting ideas, for example, the vampires are just called people (as they are the norm) and the humans that are extremely rare and hide among them are called "hepers" and they are considered a completely different species that is hunted for it's blood and meat.
@@RoanokeGaming It’s also why the first vampire they shot with a crossbow during the ambush exploded. Turns out using good ol fashioned crossbow bolts and arrows is the best way to combat vampires.
The flammability, explosions, and sunlight sensitivity might actually be a hint to what is keeping them going. If the cells were converting to something that was a high energy substitute (think having fuel rods for blood and flesh, where some of the cell mass is now entirely designed around energy production to replace oxygen from anything from heat absorption to other things being stored in chemical released energy) it might explain the ability for them to keep going without oxygen, some sort of high efficacy storage. Might also explain the need for blood and the damage done with the fake blood, the body is converting new blood into the high efficacy battery material, fake blood doesn't work, and sets off a chain reaction (think trying to throw a high energy charge into paper causing it to ignite, just more so since this would have to be HIGH energy for that big a boom.) The degraded state is when there's no new material to change, so their batteries are wearing out. Also might explain the light sensitivity, it could create a run away chain reaction by causing a chemical reaction, that causes fire, same for structural damage from stab wounds to the heart, think a live wire exposed, or perhaps multiple parts of a chemical conversion process normally kept separate hitting each other, runaway chain reaction and blam. Heart might be a large reservoir for the chemical that causes the energy conversion. This also could be the conversion of tissue too quickly to the humanoid state from the battery state when exposed to sunlight (perhaps the bodies state rushing to change back to avoid the chemical chain reaction from sunlight overdose, but its not a process that works on its own, and is the vampire version of an immune system overreaction (which causes you to EEEEEEXXXPLOOOOOOODEE), and why water and cooling allow you to change back, sort of, seeing as the blood changes to a rapid dose cure. Would also explain the whole exploding into fire instead of jelly if basically vampire are the human equivalent of pressurized fuel containing its own fuse. Though you'd think that that would still either need more splat, or a bigger boom :P.
"I just realises he's a vampire name Edward now that tragic" well the upside is twilight might of been banned in that world or not exist at all so I call that a win
@@RoanokeGaming oh absolutely, I'm a Chebby boy but I do like Mustangs a lot as well, my friend and I recently took his Coyote GT and my C5 Z06 out to Sebring which was fun, though no one was actually at the track. We don't have any classics though, his Coyote's an 18 and my Z06 is an 03. I do know a guy who used to have a 64 1/2 with the bar speedo though I don't know if he still has it.
Daybreakers is an AWESOME movie. The ending is fantastic. Very creative. One of the BEST scenes is when the mutant vampires are chained together and being pulled out into the sun. There's a quick clip of some people walking by who turn away so they don't have to watch. The cool thing about this is that the people are dressed in fashions from the 30s in Germany. The woman's hat is especially iconic. If you watch some of the videos here of Berlin in the 30s, ALL the women are wearing hats like that. It's a powerful metaphor showing how regular people turn away so they don't have to watch the terrible things being done to a minority group. Also, I just noticed this in your description. You say that Charles thinks being a vampire is great because it cured him of cancer. At the beginning of I am Legend, a scientist is being interviewed on TV, and she says that, yes, they have found a cure for cancer. This, of course, contains the virus that turns humans into vampires.
Loved your cancer jab, about how they dont want a cure they want repeat business. Exactly my thoughts.. with all the advances over the years and yet we still treat cancer the same way we did over 60 years ago.
I made a video about this. While I do love the Viscera Orgy near the end, I still think it would be more interesting to have Edward and his team put themselves in the blood supply, thus curing the world. Just imagine that shot of the city walking out into the sunlight, rather than the three survivors at the end.
Not science but I can explain the supernatural lack of reflection with mythology! The traditional explanation for vampires not showing up in mirrors is that mirrors were made from silver which is a pure metal, vampires being impure and traditionally soulless do not show up. This also would've prevented them from showing up in early photos. Modern cameras don't have anything to do with silver. I mean neither do modern mirrors but maybe they had a weird silver mirror resurgence. Worldbuilding I guess.
Yeah, and more modern stories use the fact that silver itself is an antimicrobial so unless they go the "mirrors reflect your soul and Vampires don't have a soul" route and instead stick to a virus or something even deemed impure by "god" or what have you (such as deals to become demons as men-thinking along the lines of Hellsing's Alucard) then you won't show up in old mirrors or non-digital cameras. Pleasantly surprised to find another Vampire lore nerd here! :D
Same reason silver repels fae and can kill werewolves. It’s considered a religiously significant metal possibly because it’s like the whiter version of gold and white=purity I guess
@@emilybarclay8831 iron also repellent the fair folk, but I'm not sure why it never carried over to Werewolf or Vampire lore. (I swear sometimes coming at this stuff with a background in history and myth makes me feel like I'm secretly in a Supernatural Episode. Especially mixing science with paranormal. What's the thing with Doctor Who and Supernatural? Doctor Who: "Nothing is ghosts, everything is aliens." Supernatural: "Everything is ghosts, nothing is aliens.")
@@Crisjola I believe vampires and werewolves had their roots in Eastern Europe and the south east asia whereas fae were a Celtic/ native british legend, probably why they had long enough to develop independently, they only really started getting spread in the Middle Ages
I'm not sure. I know werewolves are in Irish mythology, and Fae/Elves/"people under the hills" (I believe that's what one name for the Fae translates to) are all over Scandinavian mythology as well, where as Werewolves seem to be a Middle Ages thing that picked up with science clashing with religion. I know that the Seelie and Unseelie and the "creation myth" of the Celtics got really badly Christianized when people were trying to record the "totally *not* gods, you guys!!!" mythology of Ireland (and some of Scotland) by Christian scholars/monks/writers at the time. Plus "the fae" are equivalent to elves from Norse myth. Though I do 100% agree that Vampires (at least as we know them from mythology) are very much an Eastern Europe thing. Same with "death flyers" like Zburators. There was a lot more concern about people coming back from the dead in Eastern Europe as opposed to other parts of the world, which I find fascinating. Also most cultures have some sort of hellhound/ghost dog/Fae-dog/etc that lures/drags its victims to the plane of existence where it originated from.
I like the idea that they can’t see themselves in a mirror as a way for what’s left of the human brain, refusing to confirm that the infected person exists.
I find it amusing how cigarettes and cigars are so prevalent in the movie, bc vampires aren’t affected by lung diseases I guess? Cool little bit of storytelling I think.
On one hand, as Roanoke explains, the virus causing vampirism in this movie has a permanent copy of each cell. On the other hand, smoke from a cigarette could still harm the cells and their DNA. Either this was looked over or purposely added to make the film more "edgey" or to show how badass the characters were.
I think the biggest question to this is who is farming all the tobacco?? Is it done completely indoors with artificial lighting? Or greenhouses that can be covered when the workers enter the facility?
Well since vampires are immortal it doesn’t even matter if they smoked or not they’re not gonna die. I’m sure the movie didn’t even create an Amazing genetic lore like Roanoke did lol
@@HuntressCarolina8D probably internal facility most of humanity is dead and i don't think there are too many vampires also we are only showed one city . So it won't be that difficult to supply few hundred thousand vampires from indoor tobacco farms
@@undeadprincess5726 didn’t Charles say he was cancer ridden as a human and he was cured from the vampirism? So anything with cancer causing chemicals wouldn’t effect them right?
i have realized long ago Roanoke is thinking way more about this then the makers of these type of movies usually do but its kinda insane how you always make these types of infections possible even tho i doubt many filmakers think that far
I think in original lore, vampires they couldn’t see them selves in mirrors is because of the layer of silver which it stopped them from seeing their reflection. Unless all reflective things are made of silver or has a layer of silver then sure they can’t see themselves, but I highly doubt literally every reflective surface has a coating of silver. And if this was the case in the movie then couldn’t they just make mirrors with out silver, but instead coating of aluminum or just reflective glass? The only reasoning I can think of is that their reflection just disappears, but they can still be recorded because it’s not a mirror I guess.
I escaped this alternate reality. But I’ll be honest, it wasn’t because of the vampires, it’s because I’m a morning person. Having no one to talk to while drinking my coffee completely ruined my day. So I rejected that reality and joined you all here.
@@RoanokeGaming although you could see immortality as a massive drawback as time goes on, with overpopulation becoming an issue and people feeling like their lives mean nothing now because of the removal of ageing
Why would it suck? If your friends and family are immortal as well then what's the drawback? If you just think you will get bored of living that just means you get to decide when you die there's no downside.
Got to say...This is by far one of my favorite vampire movies. I love how realistic the politicking is, the human nature in vampires, the interacting and acting. Good stuff
Its odd that they only can take human blood when there's biologically speaking very little difference between human blood and non-human blood. There would be many ways to create a sustainable blood diet irl
@Luna Tenebra that still seems wierd to me. What about the bird blood nourishes the bat that exclusively feeds on birds that mammalian blood would not? I feel like the bird exclusive bat probably COULD subsist on mammal blood but can't because of morphological reasons like teeth or behavioral reasons where it could physically it just simply won't.
@Luna Tenebra it is exactly due to a physiological difference! (lol difference in bird and and mammal blood is by definition physiological). After doing some reading I can give you the reason. Yes bird blood and mammal blood is different that (was never my debate.) Bird blood cells have organelles and mammels do not. The physiological reason white winged vamp bats and hairy legged vampire bats do not tend to drink mammal blood (they can and it gives them the same nutrients) is because in order to "drink" the blood they need to introduce an plasminogen activators to break apart blood clots so they can continue to drink the blood as a liquid. So all 3 species of bats CAN and do drink mammal blood, just the bird exclusive (hairy legged vampire bats) WON'T usually waste its time unless there is need due to the fact it does not possess the right physiological adaptations to do so efficiently. In regards to the original question of why couldn't vampires drink animal blood the examples of vampire bats is a poor one since all 3 have been shown to drink human, cattle and goat blood when necessary and thus still derive nutrition from all sources. I'm not trying to have an argument, your comment just inspired me to look all this up as I find it fascinating and I wanted to share it lol. Cheers.
Well in the movie Edward actually drinks pig blood as the main chunk of his diet. It's one of the things him and his brother argue about in the kitchen.
Honestly, just knowing how we are even if a successful blood substitute was found the likely extermination of humanity would still occur because as you said, we all like just a nice stake. That would probably culminate in humans becoming a "luxury food".
Yeah same. I'm just not into 5vs5 tune based games. I like games.ofe like did where there are a set of rules but most of the time it comes down to just your planning
19:25 the funny thing is the whole no reflection thing back in the day was because silver was used in mirrors and as such it would reflect the "evil" vampire, but since around the 40s they started using other stuff in mirrors so technically most mirrors should show their reflections.
I've always loved this vampire film, really enjoyed the more scientific take on vampirism. Blade I & II for the most part treats vampirism as a scientific disease as opposed to a supernatural affliction too. Whilst on the subject, I would love to see you cover the TV show 'The Strain' - Guillermo Del Toro has such a unique take on vampires!
The Strain is the best vampire genre program that has ever existed. The ending was a little more meh than I would have liked, but it can't take away from an otherwise great show.
Thanks for covering this movie. I cannot think of another movie that approached the subject of "yeah, but what if everybody was a vampire?" as well as this one. And it's always nice to see Ethan Hawke, just in general. The Reapers from Blade 2 were way more terrifying than the Sub-siders.
I always wondered why the light from the moon didn’t do anything at all to vampires not even some kind of vamp tan considering it’s from the reflection of the sun.
I remember hearing that the vampire not being able to see itself in the mirror thing originally was because back in the day mirrors were lined with silver so it made sense with the lore
I always thought it was interesting that they had completely taken over most vampire stories they're outliers just a few hiding in the woods or whatever but in this it's a complete vampire society
That actually makes more sense - as the vampires here learned the hard way. Vampires are apex predators and can only survive with a lot of prey. A few vampires overall and a healthy human populace is not a problem - there's always enough food. Many vampires and a dwindling amount of humans will also lead to the destruction of the vampires.
@@cayreet5992 I know I just thought it was an interesting take on it since the majority of the population are vampires they don't have to hide so there's alot of innovation to deal with vampire specific issues like sun light His modded out car was pretty cool allowing him to drive around during the day
@@ShadowFox10587O Yes, it's interesting to see what vampires would do when they didn't have to hide. The main change to make to the story in this case should be how they get their blood without completely killing off humans. Like, they buy it. Every human has to donate blood a certain amount of times a year. Still hard to feed that many vampires, but they could have made the populace a bit smaller without foregoing the tech.
I didn't really enjoy the movie as a whole, but I liked its concept and wouldn't mind seeing the idea used more often. Regardless, it's always a pleasure to watch a film with Sam Neill in it. It's hard to see him as a villain after Jurassic Park and his fantastic performance there , but he did the villain look very well in this film imo.
I wish they'd make a post apocalyptic vampire movie with this setting. Have mosy of the normal vamps turn and then it's on humans and maybe surviving regular vamps kind of just fighting to live. But it'd probably just become a generic zombie movie with most directors.
I remember seeing this movie many years ago, and was pleasantly surprised by how good it was. Over the years I was tempted to re-watch it but couldn't recall the name, and eventually forgot about it. Thanks for the video which puts a name to it. :)
i think the reason the Humvee explodes at 11:25 is because when the vampires are exposed to sunlight they burst into flames and I think its just a little exaggerated there.
Would also be cool if a movie would dive into how the vampire brain is changed when they are around for hundreds of years and their learning capabilities. Do they have to forget some things to learn new things or can their brain somehow store everything they learn over the centuries?
The people farming is similar to the Blade films where in a deleted scene of the first film Frost had people being drained of blood for the vampires. In Blade Trinity there's a similar blood bank.
Something I always wondered about how sunlight is harmful to vampires but not other forms of light. It seems that it has less to do with sunlight itself and more to do with the ultraviolet radiation that is emitted from sunlight.
I've read a few stories/seen a few where reflected light hurts, but doesn't kill them outright. Also it totally depends on which branch of vampirism someone decides to write: if you go the supernatural route (turned into demons and losing their souls but possessing the bodies of a human) then sunlight basically destroys the meatsuit because the thing that is possessing it the demon, can't do more than keep it in stasis. Usually the supernatural routes that go this way also have vampires desiccate if they don't get blood since the demon is still basically sane just holding a meatsuit that can't function. If the story goes the (almost) fully sci-fi route then even lessened UV rays that function as "high tech" silver (silver being an alchemical writing touchstone for purity) should be able to burn or at least hurt a vampire because of the antimicrobial aspect of The Sun. Presumably it's why in almost all vampire fiction, setting them ablaze (with or without the sunlight) is a good way to end them. As a random side note since I'm writing my own dark fantasy story with vampires in it, I chose to use a harder to quantify reason for turning (basically a slightly more reader friendly version of "bubble universe theory" without having to debate "plane," "dimension," "alternate universe," and "parallel universe" because that just gets confusing as a *writer* ) where over 50% of humanity's DNA has been altered thanks to that exact Earth being a nexus point, and thus, depending on the type of creature (there are three different "species" of Vampires along with a lot of other things) then it depends on if you can or can't be exposed to sunlight. Those who basically have latent DNA activated can because they're *technically* a dhampir though there's no biological difference between the original vampire and the human with activated DNA. Those who are possessed meatsuits (think less body hopping and much more flammable) are weak to every Vampire trope in the book except for their "native soil" since the body is possessed and kept alive by what amounts to a "demon"-these guys burst into flame in the sun because of supernatural "impurities" in their souls. The third kind I'm still fleshing out because my original field of study was physics not bio chem so I'm trying to work on a good way to have there be a virus or something more scientific (since that is the point of the series, blending science, religion, history, and myth to explain how the world might work) to have a third type of vampire that is more resilient than the "demon who possessed a meatsuit less effectively than Supernatural's demons" but also doesn't have a set of latent genetics that give them powers that don't really jive with human abilities. Regardless of which of the three in my story, you can absolutely end any of them by dousing them in flammable liquid and lighting them up like the Fourth of July. I always respected The Strain (it's my understanding the books go into much more detail but I'm a bit of a scaredy-cat to get *much* more detail than the show already gave) for pulling that trigger on almost "full science Vamps." Even if the last season sort of lost the plot.
@@Crisjola The Strain's vampires aren't "full science" (the third book reveals the first ones literally arose from the dismembered parts of the angel of death) in that the destruction of an "elder" will instantly kill every vampire descended from them, also that killing said elders is done by blowing up the PLACE of their origin, not them. It's all very science-ey apart from that though.
I am crocheting a blanket and listening to you talk about one of my favorite vampire movies. I'm pretty boring. Oh and fun fact, the girl in the beginning was actually the progenitor of the outbreak. I like movie trivia.
Speaking as someone who works in the 'Blood Sciences' department in a hospital laboratory (so Biochemistry, Haematology, and Blood Transfusion) the reason they probably couldn't just grow human blood from stem cells is because the technology doesn't really exist outside of the lab. Theoretically you can grow the cells, yes, but the the exact composition of red cells to white cells to theomocytes is trickier. This would be an increadibly useful theraputic tool in patients if it existed. Also, the blood contains many other things which probably give it 'flavour' to the vampires such as proteins, hormones, electrolytes/salt ions, lipids, antibodies, sugars, dissolved gases, cell metabolic waste, ect. It also maintains a delicate equilibrium that makes it more alkaline because of the dissolved carbon dioxide that gets dissolved and move to the lungs for excretion via breathing.These are all created by cells in tissue that release those into the blood stream, they're not made in the bone marrow.
I'm not the type to comment on videos, I usually like and lurk. This is video is a great example of the type of content I enjoy and they're the reason why I use TH-cam. The fact that creators struggle with censorship, exposure, and being fairly compensated for ad revenue makes me frustrated with the platform. I hate that I have to leave a comment just for the sake of manipulating an algorithm that doesn't even benefit the audience I'm a part of. That being said, here we are. Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.
@@GuilleSoler91 Given its saprotroph consumption (dissolving organic material and absorbing it via roots) I think tiberium should first be classified as a fungus. The crystals are most likely just a nutrition/energy storage similar to how plants store starch in their amyloplasts. How it can grow this excessively with the little bit of energy it can get from the absorbed organic material does seem odd. Maybe it gets additional energy from absorbing background radiation similar to how some single cell organisms have evolved to live of radioactivity in Chernobyl.
The "Vampires don't reflect on mirrors" considering that the original thought formed around mirrors using silver, vampiresare weak to silver too and that why they don't reflect
Pretty sad when a random guy solves a problem that the professionals can't figure out. He solved the whole blood supply problem in like... 2 sentences. And heck, that's probably not the only solution. I'm willing to bet. Really gives ya hope for the future, don't it? :/
I love that the widespread cure ended up being the blood of an ex-vampire, that's such a cool concept.. Also the way that '"primer" is made is also pretty cool to see as well
20:04Here we see a subsider licking blood off the wall and it got me thinking If not consuming blood turns a vampire to a subsider, can drinking it after you've changed turn you back into a vampire? There was a comic book turned into a tv series not long ago call iZombie in which a woman doctor turned coroner after she turned into a zombie in a world in which if you eat human brains or a regular basis, you can keep your human personality and sense of self. as long as you eat brains, your hair turns white and your skin turns extremely pale (You can dye your hair and use skin bronzing products to disguise yourself as human though) The zombie doctor, Olivia Moore (Liv Moore for short, pun included) can even live in the same apartment with her human best friend without fear from attack as long as she's fed and meing a coroner, she has an endless supply of brains There is a side effect though Like in the movie Warm Bodies, when she eats a brain, she is forced to take on the memories and personality of the person whose brain she's eaten until she eats another brain and takes on THAT persons memories and personality The downside of the zombie transformation is that IF she doesn't eat brains for some unknown amount of time, the zombie loses their former humanity turning into a feral, shambling "normal" zombie known in their world as a Romero after George Romero The thing is, if the zombie turns into a Romero, even if they eat as many brains as they possibly can, their human personality will never return Would this be true for the subsiders as well? In the movie Day Breakers, we see Edward start to change by getting longer ears but by drinking human blood, he changes back to normal If he turned full subsider, would he turn back into a human again?
Uhm... edward could revert his subsider ears with a bit of human blood but the one that attacks him still was a savage after eating way more than him so... it looks like a dead end
@33:49 an interesting thing not many people know about serotonin, is that depending on whether it crosses the blood/brain barrier it functions differently. For the last 4 and a half years ive been treated for carcinoid syndrome - the secondary condition of having neuroendocrine cancer - When the tumors grew large enough to start secreting its own hormones it created symptoms such as rapid heart beat, flushing, [especially after consumption of alcohol or amines] and then abdominal pain, vomiting and frequent diarrhea once secreting large amounts of serotonin. so, despite my cancer releasing dangerous levels of serotonin, it does nothing for my mood since it never crosses the blood/brain barrier
My question: the whole bat transformation thing: could it be that the need for human blood is some sort of genetic absorption from the blood that somehow reinforces the host DNA to prevent the disease from progressing and breaking down the host DNA in favor of its own? The effects of autophagia in this case would make sense as you're telling your body to replace the human DNA with the already degraded DNA in the blood from within yourself. Still no clue why they can't use marrow farming but still...
I'm super excited for him to cover this. I'm sure he will. Especially with all of the Resi 8 parasite work he has to have been doing. I've heard the books are better than the show, though. And go less off the rails.
@@Crisjola, Unfortunately the more I think about it, I think he probably won't, only because he has never covered a TV series before and he would have a lot more material to cover than he normally does, which is why I posted another suggestion, in case he doesn't feel like doing that much work.
@@GargamelGold I think it depends. If he uses the books as a jumping off point/main reference and the TV show to illustrate his point then it wouldn't be much more difficult than what he covered in Maze Runner since they're both a Trilogy of books (at least I know The Strain is) and have visual adaptations. As far as I know the TV show of The Strain doesn't deviate too much from the books but the books go into more detail. Like I've said in other comments, I'm a bit too much of a scaredy-cat to actually read the novels but I'll probably eventually get around to it because I really loved the first three (I think I only watched the first three before dropping season 4) seasons of The Strain. It's such an amazing premise.
There's this show called The strain came out in 2014, it was about like a vampiric disease and CDC, stuff similar to this, pretty good show. U should do a vid on it 🔥
Ho Roanoke. I'd love to see a breakdown for the parasitic infection in the series The Strain. It's a pretty good show and it's got some chunky science to it! Love your stuff and keep up the good work
What’s a bummer with pretty much all vampire movies is the “the sun is a instant death” trope, cause in lore the sun was not originally an enemy of Vampires, it’s relatively a new troupe to vampires, in reality they are just less powerful in the day
Roanoke gaming a movie you should do next is "Frankenstein's Army" that would be extremely interesting and I think you can pull it off, and also if we're talking video games I say talk about the "Vertigo" from "Resident Evil 4" and maybe do some of the creatures from the "Little nightmares" games
Wonder if the girl in the beginning was Charles' 2nd daughter and she didn't want to be a vampire and killed herself and their father changing her made Abigail leave
11:22 I would have to know the exact location of the fueltank of the exploding car. If the metal beam perforated the fuel tank and made its contents spill on the inside of the car, the broken glass/sunlight could cause the vampires inside to combust the fuel and fumes. In any other case, screw exploding cars.
My good man, your videos are still, by far, the best explanation for the "what if" these viruses were an actual threat. Always entertaining, and I feel more intelligent having viewed your posts. I could have entire hypothetical discussions with my sci-fi/fantasy/horror loving friends fueled by these videos.👍🏾
I like how your in video ads have a timer bar up at the top. Means I can skip ahead but not skip ahead too far. Tired of raid shadow legends ads. The game ain't my type and I keep being bombarded with the ads and skipping too far ahead...until now with your channel. So a real and sincere thank you is in order. So thank you oh glorious Roanoke the Great and Amazing Conqueror of the TH-cam Ads.
Why aren't they breeding the humans? Isn't that literally the thing we do right now with cows? I feel like this movie didn't understand that one concept. Cattle are cattle because they can be bred to make more cattle. If you can't breed an animal in captivity then there's no point in domesticating it. Human child birth doesn't discriminate between captive or not, and as such you could literally treat the captive humans like actual cows and just breed a new generation of blood givers. Infinite blood solved. No fancy technology needed. We got free range humans, caged humans, spicy humans, greasy humans, some people like their humans mixed, some like their humans to be pure Chinese! "Our humans are fed red meat and fish during their bleeding years, making their blood rich and tasty!" Some companies might brag. That's right. Steak fed humans. Much better than those whimpy corn fed ones. This society could work, it's just that the writers don't understand economics.
Except the demand for cow meat its as severe as the need for blood tie that in with the gestation period and waiting long enough to get a significant enough amount of blood it would take years
@@quartzskull8772 In my hypothetical world the vampires have been raising humans as cattle since the beginning. Also, fun fact about the difference here.. you don't need to bleed them dry. Even only pregnant women will need to not be bled for food. Children as young as 14 can give blood safely every few months, with a bit more taken than your average blood drive since they wouldn't have any real rights or anything. Once an arbitrary but functional age is reached then the humans can be bled completely. Like 65. The movie also shows that diluting blood is a viable option. Even 20% blood is enough to sustain your average vampire for the most part. Combining the current system, which is blood dilution and rationing, with my system would net the Vampires and ever growing and sustainable flow of blood.
@@someguy4384 sure they take a little bit St a time but when you are trying to keep a few hundred million or even a billion vampires there wouldn't be enough and if a vampire has trouble going a few weeks without blood it would be challenging to wait 14 years
I would love to see a biological breakdown of the parasites that turn people into vampires called The Strigoi from the TV Series/Comics/Novels "The Strain."
But 90% of that would be Roanoke just repeating stuff they say in the show. Maybe he could go a little more in-depth speculating about the worms and the White, but finding scientific explanations for the mechanics behind the strigoi is a big part of the show.
I love the concept of a vampire dominated planet it shows the reason why vampires in other universe don't have massive numbers because it means less blood to go around.
This film got picked apart quickly by my wife who was sitting around arguing the existence of areas on earth with near 24hr sunlight or desserts while I brought up the fact that an economy of "protected" humans would've quickly sprang up offering blood as currency.
Probably because Wesley Snipes is facing charges for not paying his taxes and the third movie was such a flop that it ruined the chance of making another Blade movie.
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Nice video you got there.
All good bro Vid was awesome keep it up
Didn’t even take a small nap?
do V-Wars next
"I am not a Vampire overlord"
That is what a Vampire would say. *Loads Crossbow*
He who says he's a vampire overlord is no true vampire overlord
*loads shotgun* no one kills one of my favourite you tubers without a fight
*"loads the jackal pistol"*
*picks up axes*
*charges plasma gun*
"Everyone is becoming vampires what should we do?"
"Find a blood substi..."
"Eat all the humans!"
Humans had a previous incident involving the Dodo. That's just the one I know of, I'm confident there are others. This situation wouldn't be too surprising to be honest.
Hey man I can dig it a brand new series a spin-off "vampire: CSI"
Hey man that was stupid as hell for the humans to start transporting themselves at night who wrote this f****** s*** out there that hot ass son that's when they should have been making a movement to go where they need to go
The vampire chimpanzee :⚡🤪eat everybody lol
Well in the opening credits, there's a headline that says the substitute the Germans came up with failed. Maybe there wasn't an adequate replacement. That said, making your "food source" extinct isn't a good plan either.
Note: the original vampires and mirrors thing had to do with the mirror's being backed with reflective silver. It was the pure silver that rejected a vampire's image, other reflections still work fine.
Problem being that new writers over time completely forgot this, and mirrors these days aren't even made with silver anymore.
Also the fact that vampires couldn't cross running water (reasons) made it so in moving water like a spring or river they wouldn't see their reflection.
Also it's nice to see a bunch of people here in the comment who know the silver thing! :D Also I think… very vaguely… that either Buffy or The Vampire Diaries actually explained this. I know someone in the last two decades mentioned the silver thing because it was one hell of a plot point. Something something "easier to hide identities when you don't show up in photos" something something.
Another fun theory (not my theory and I don't know if it's true) I learned that, supposedly the reason that supernatural beings considered to have some kind of connection to hell or "the forces of darkness" are weak to silver. It's because silver is what the Romans paid Judas to betray Jesus, and because much of the very first lore about vampires was made by extremely religious folk, that's supposedly why vampires, werewolves, and other things are weak to silver. Although personally, I think it should probably be the opposite, after all if it was silver that Judas betrayed Jesus for, wouldn't that make it a symbol of evil? And shouldn't it then make supernatural beings with some kind of link to hell stronger, not weaker? But anyway that last part is just my take on it.
Silver is a purifier, and that is why it is dangerous to impure beings such as werewolves or vampires.
They also used silver in photo recording. When you pour a sulphid tincture over silver, it will oxidate (blacken) when came into contact with light. They used this to record black and white pictures, and later on, even films.
Do you know anywhere that I can read about the mirror thingy? :)
The leadership of the vampire society, really didn't think things through.
Yep, @@timyuusis3372. At least we have each other in real life as all of Humanity's Civilizations begin to fail and self destruct faster and faster.
@@coreyjones3788 Most predictions state that Earth has existed for 4.5 billion years, which is a solid 1/3 of the universe's lifespan so far
Just like normal humans, then.
@@aleclu8128 that’s predictions though. If you think about it we truly know nothing at all, we could simply be a simulation of some higher beings thoughts and we’re being played like the Sims games. And the chances of us being a simulation is quite high.
@@black_hand78 Sounds like you are just making things up as possible truth when anything the guy above said could also be true.
So the answer to this crazy question is - nothing and everything ( so just dont think about it cuz it doesnt matter in the end)
The most terrifying thing in this movie.
That chimps could become vampires. Animals capable of tearing humans apart can become immortal. Sweet mother of Jane
Is that an OxBox reference? (If not, I'd love to know it ^_^)
Yeah but the sun will kill them and they're dumb enough to chase you right into it.
Reject animal, return to vampire.
Imagine a vampire polarbear.
@@Crisjola Jane Goodall
This movie, along with 30 Days of Night & Blade 2 impressed me with the fact that they found a new take on the on the over-done Vampire genre that I had never seen or thought of before.
30 days of night was pretty damn generic when you think about it and Blade 2 had a good premise but it's execution of such a good premise was wasted.
I own ALL 3 LOL kind of a fan
@@calebgadison167 WHY ARE YOU GAY?
@@calebgadison167 30 days of night wasn't generic at all, it was basically the first depiction of vampires being actual monsters, before this they were suave and attractive men or women who would seduce their victims into trusting them before drinking their blood.
@@calebgadison167 how? No movie ever had vampires just straight up attack a whole town like that. And Blade II is a consensus fan favorite for a reason.
This shows how utterly flawed a vampire society is as you only now have just the one food source to live off of. And if said food becomes scare they become more like monstrous animals way faster than a regular human would.
I mean could they not survive on cows or pigs blood?
@@RoanokeGaming maeby they do, making cheap blood who is human blood diluted in animal blood, the cuality would depend on how much human blood is in the mix but still would be pretty crappy and dont serve as a funtional alternative
Probably involves something with antibodies found in the blood keeping the virus complacent and not turning them into monster when they have no blood.
LOOKING AT YOU, HARKON.
@@RoanokeGaming The only non vampire animals we see in the whole movie are bats so it would probably be safe to say that they had already exhausted every form of animal life before they drove humanity to the brink of extinction
We don't even see birds so I don't think that they were spared either
Today I learn that a 1965 Mustang has a crossbar going across the grill, while 1966 Mustang does not.
Always loved this film, felt like it should get more light shone on it… Maybe not the best choice of words
lmao it was one of those movies that had a pretty cool concept to it
@@RoanokeGaming Exactly, more movies need to be done like in this manner. Really get the gray matter moving… Well for some part at least
Puns are always an excellent choice of words
Daybreakers is a film that i always have to recommend to my friends because apparently no one else has heard of it
@@callumarcher8111 its such a shame how many sleeper hits people never even hear of
This movie was the first that took the concept of immortality via vampirism to the next level, leaving vampires reliant on humans to the point of making the food supply finite, very interesting concept on this lore
I loved the take this movie had.
Instead of the typical "monsters live in the shadows" type of deal, they actually tackle the idea of "what would a world run by vampires look like?"
I honestly wish more movie studios tried this.
The Strain becomes like that
If you’re not opposed to watching Anime or reading Manga, Seraph of the End does a pretty good job too.
I feel the show had a lot of interesting ideas I just wished there was a bit more back and forth with humans and vampires power games
Instead of vampires winning so hard that they destroyed themselves
Also the fact Vampires are the top of the food chain but now something is preying on them instead!
Not a movie but if you're interested, read the book series The Hunt by Andrew Fukuda. The main character is a young human who lives in a vampire society and survives by pretending to be just like them. It really brought some interesting ideas, for example, the vampires are just called people (as they are the norm) and the humans that are extremely rare and hide among them are called "hepers" and they are considered a completely different species that is hunted for it's blood and meat.
Dude, I'm digging your channel like a tater patch. I love the in depth breakdown and the non-condescending way.
Ayyyy thanks for watching bro!
"but wh does it explode?"
Killing a vampire via impalement causes them to combust in this movie.
That one is just the supernatural aspects tbh
Also, the vehicle is likely full of ammunition.
Sunlight, everyone of them combusted at the same time = boom. 🤷🏽♂️
@@RoanokeGaming It’s also why the first vampire they shot with a crossbow during the ambush exploded. Turns out using good ol fashioned crossbow bolts and arrows is the best way to combat vampires.
Could be gas build up because they don’t breathe or fart so after a while the gases build up and one stark boom.
The flammability, explosions, and sunlight sensitivity might actually be a hint to what is keeping them going. If the cells were converting to something that was a high energy substitute (think having fuel rods for blood and flesh, where some of the cell mass is now entirely designed around energy production to replace oxygen from anything from heat absorption to other things being stored in chemical released energy) it might explain the ability for them to keep going without oxygen, some sort of high efficacy storage. Might also explain the need for blood and the damage done with the fake blood, the body is converting new blood into the high efficacy battery material, fake blood doesn't work, and sets off a chain reaction (think trying to throw a high energy charge into paper causing it to ignite, just more so since this would have to be HIGH energy for that big a boom.) The degraded state is when there's no new material to change, so their batteries are wearing out.
Also might explain the light sensitivity, it could create a run away chain reaction by causing a chemical reaction, that causes fire, same for structural damage from stab wounds to the heart, think a live wire exposed, or perhaps multiple parts of a chemical conversion process normally kept separate hitting each other, runaway chain reaction and blam. Heart might be a large reservoir for the chemical that causes the energy conversion. This also could be the conversion of tissue too quickly to the humanoid state from the battery state when exposed to sunlight (perhaps the bodies state rushing to change back to avoid the chemical chain reaction from sunlight overdose, but its not a process that works on its own, and is the vampire version of an immune system overreaction (which causes you to EEEEEEXXXPLOOOOOOODEE), and why water and cooling allow you to change back, sort of, seeing as the blood changes to a rapid dose cure.
Would also explain the whole exploding into fire instead of jelly if basically vampire are the human equivalent of pressurized fuel containing its own fuse. Though you'd think that that would still either need more splat, or a bigger boom :P.
"I just realises he's a vampire name Edward now that tragic" well the upside is twilight might of been banned in that world or not exist at all so I call that a win
@@timyuusis3372 Oh no.................
@@timyuusis3372 F
I like to think it’s banned lol something about that is so humorous to me
*might have
y’all bring up this movie more than the people that say they enjoyed it lol we get ittt ur team jacob
I really liked the part where you showed your Mustang nerd lol.
God help me they're beautiful cars lol
@@RoanokeGaming oh absolutely, I'm a Chebby boy but I do like Mustangs a lot as well, my friend and I recently took his Coyote GT and my C5 Z06 out to Sebring which was fun, though no one was actually at the track. We don't have any classics though, his Coyote's an 18 and my Z06 is an 03. I do know a guy who used to have a 64 1/2 with the bar speedo though I don't know if he still has it.
mustang nerd but barely batted an eye at the pontiac
@@RoanokeGaming Do you own one yet?
Roanoke on his wedding night, "Now starting with the feet"
Oh yeah
Hmm
Kinky.
Instead of getting down to buisness he just starts explaining her anatomy
w h y
Daybreakers is an AWESOME movie. The ending is fantastic. Very creative. One of the BEST scenes is when the mutant vampires are chained together and being pulled out into the sun. There's a quick clip of some people walking by who turn away so they don't have to watch. The cool thing about this is that the people are dressed in fashions from the 30s in Germany. The woman's hat is especially iconic. If you watch some of the videos here of Berlin in the 30s, ALL the women are wearing hats like that. It's a powerful metaphor showing how regular people turn away so they don't have to watch the terrible things being done to a minority group.
Also, I just noticed this in your description. You say that Charles thinks being a vampire is great because it cured him of cancer. At the beginning of I am Legend, a scientist is being interviewed on TV, and she says that, yes, they have found a cure for cancer. This, of course, contains the virus that turns humans into vampires.
Absolute props for using Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines music, that brings back memories man!
Hell ya brother!
Ah the good old days damn that was so long ago
Damn right
*Reinstalling intensifies*
@@RoanokeGaming Congrats from new zealand - what virus? :)
Loved your cancer jab, about how they dont want a cure they want repeat business. Exactly my thoughts.. with all the advances over the years and yet we still treat cancer the same way we did over 60 years ago.
Laughed when you called Sam Neil "Dinosaur Man"
😅😂😆
Alan!
Jurassic Park Reference
His character should have said 'Spared no expense' since he'd clearly turned into Hammond :P
@@Colechamdiceman
Turned into book Hammond so his death was perfect
I made a video about this. While I do love the Viscera Orgy near the end, I still think it would be more interesting to have Edward and his team put themselves in the blood supply, thus curing the world.
Just imagine that shot of the city walking out into the sunlight, rather than the three survivors at the end.
Not science but I can explain the supernatural lack of reflection with mythology!
The traditional explanation for vampires not showing up in mirrors is that mirrors were made from silver which is a pure metal, vampires being impure and traditionally soulless do not show up. This also would've prevented them from showing up in early photos. Modern cameras don't have anything to do with silver. I mean neither do modern mirrors but maybe they had a weird silver mirror resurgence. Worldbuilding I guess.
Yeah, and more modern stories use the fact that silver itself is an antimicrobial so unless they go the "mirrors reflect your soul and Vampires don't have a soul" route and instead stick to a virus or something even deemed impure by "god" or what have you (such as deals to become demons as men-thinking along the lines of Hellsing's Alucard) then you won't show up in old mirrors or non-digital cameras.
Pleasantly surprised to find another Vampire lore nerd here! :D
Same reason silver repels fae and can kill werewolves. It’s considered a religiously significant metal possibly because it’s like the whiter version of gold and white=purity I guess
@@emilybarclay8831 iron also repellent the fair folk, but I'm not sure why it never carried over to Werewolf or Vampire lore.
(I swear sometimes coming at this stuff with a background in history and myth makes me feel like I'm secretly in a Supernatural Episode. Especially mixing science with paranormal. What's the thing with Doctor Who and Supernatural?
Doctor Who: "Nothing is ghosts, everything is aliens."
Supernatural: "Everything is ghosts, nothing is aliens.")
@@Crisjola I believe vampires and werewolves had their roots in Eastern Europe and the south east asia whereas fae were a Celtic/ native british legend, probably why they had long enough to develop independently, they only really started getting spread in the Middle Ages
I'm not sure. I know werewolves are in Irish mythology, and Fae/Elves/"people under the hills" (I believe that's what one name for the Fae translates to) are all over Scandinavian mythology as well, where as Werewolves seem to be a Middle Ages thing that picked up with science clashing with religion.
I know that the Seelie and Unseelie and the "creation myth" of the Celtics got really badly Christianized when people were trying to record the "totally *not* gods, you guys!!!" mythology of Ireland (and some of Scotland) by Christian scholars/monks/writers at the time. Plus "the fae" are equivalent to elves from Norse myth.
Though I do 100% agree that Vampires (at least as we know them from mythology) are very much an Eastern Europe thing. Same with "death flyers" like Zburators. There was a lot more concern about people coming back from the dead in Eastern Europe as opposed to other parts of the world, which I find fascinating. Also most cultures have some sort of hellhound/ghost dog/Fae-dog/etc that lures/drags its victims to the plane of existence where it originated from.
I like the idea that they can’t see themselves in a mirror as a way for what’s left of the human brain, refusing to confirm that the infected person exists.
A protective hallucination? Sounds interesting to.
I find it amusing how cigarettes and cigars are so prevalent in the movie, bc vampires aren’t affected by lung diseases I guess? Cool little bit of storytelling I think.
On one hand, as Roanoke explains, the virus causing vampirism in this movie has a permanent copy of each cell. On the other hand, smoke from a cigarette could still harm the cells and their DNA. Either this was looked over or purposely added to make the film more "edgey" or to show how badass the characters were.
I think the biggest question to this is who is farming all the tobacco?? Is it done completely indoors with artificial lighting? Or greenhouses that can be covered when the workers enter the facility?
Well since vampires are immortal it doesn’t even matter if they smoked or not they’re not gonna die. I’m sure the movie didn’t even create an Amazing genetic lore like Roanoke did lol
@@HuntressCarolina8D probably internal facility most of humanity is dead and i don't think there are too many vampires also we are only showed one city . So it won't be that difficult to supply few hundred thousand vampires from indoor tobacco farms
@@undeadprincess5726 didn’t Charles say he was cancer ridden as a human and he was cured from the vampirism? So anything with cancer causing chemicals wouldn’t effect them right?
i have realized long ago Roanoke is thinking way more about this then the makers of these type of movies usually do but its kinda insane how you always make these types of infections possible even tho i doubt many filmakers think that far
I think in original lore, vampires they couldn’t see them selves in mirrors is because of the layer of silver which it stopped them from seeing their reflection. Unless all reflective things are made of silver or has a layer of silver then sure they can’t see themselves, but I highly doubt literally every reflective surface has a coating of silver. And if this was the case in the movie then couldn’t they just make mirrors with out silver, but instead coating of aluminum or just reflective glass? The only reasoning I can think of is that their reflection just disappears, but they can still be recorded because it’s not a mirror I guess.
Fun fact, photos were the same reason. Old photos had a small amount of silver.
I escaped this alternate reality.
But I’ll be honest, it wasn’t because of the vampires, it’s because I’m a morning person. Having no one to talk to while drinking my coffee completely ruined my day.
So I rejected that reality and joined you all here.
So you had the choice to pick and you went with this ?
Mistakes were made.
So now humans in that world might be borderline immortal of they are post infected. That's kinda cool
That would be honestly, all the perks, none of the drawbacks
@@RoanokeGaming although you could see immortality as a massive drawback as time goes on, with overpopulation becoming an issue and people feeling like their lives mean nothing now because of the removal of ageing
@@jimboringo9958 that would ne a great spinoff. Maybe a society where you have to pay up to continue living else the State decides to eliminate you.
@@jimboringo9958 Yeah I know but that's why I said "kinda cool" it would have it's problems but also it would have some benefits as well
Why would it suck? If your friends and family are immortal as well then what's the drawback? If you just think you will get bored of living that just means you get to decide when you die there's no downside.
Got to say...This is by far one of my favorite vampire movies. I love how realistic the politicking is, the human nature in vampires, the interacting and acting. Good stuff
Its odd that they only can take human blood when there's biologically speaking very little difference between human blood and non-human blood. There would be many ways to create a sustainable blood diet irl
That probably comes under the mythological/supernatural category
I’m mean, if diseases can spread to apes to humans why not use primates blood
@Luna Tenebra that still seems wierd to me. What about the bird blood nourishes the bat that exclusively feeds on birds that mammalian blood would not? I feel like the bird exclusive bat probably COULD subsist on mammal blood but can't because of morphological reasons like teeth or behavioral reasons where it could physically it just simply won't.
@Luna Tenebra it is exactly due to a physiological difference!
(lol difference in bird and and mammal blood is by definition physiological).
After doing some reading I can give you the reason. Yes bird blood and mammal blood is different that (was never my debate.) Bird blood cells have organelles and mammels do not. The physiological reason white winged vamp bats and hairy legged vampire bats do not tend to drink mammal blood (they can and it gives them the same nutrients) is because in order to "drink" the blood they need to introduce an plasminogen activators to break apart blood clots so they can continue to drink the blood as a liquid. So all 3 species of bats CAN and do drink mammal blood, just the bird exclusive (hairy legged vampire bats) WON'T usually waste its time unless there is need due to the fact it does not possess the right physiological adaptations to do so efficiently.
In regards to the original question of why couldn't vampires drink animal blood the examples of vampire bats is a poor one since all 3 have been shown to drink human, cattle and goat blood when necessary and thus still derive nutrition from all sources.
I'm not trying to have an argument, your comment just inspired me to look all this up as I find it fascinating and I wanted to share it lol. Cheers.
Well in the movie Edward actually drinks pig blood as the main chunk of his diet. It's one of the things him and his brother argue about in the kitchen.
Honestly, just knowing how we are even if a successful blood substitute was found the likely extermination of humanity would still occur because as you said, we all like just a nice stake. That would probably culminate in humans becoming a "luxury food".
Not at all.
Also its steak not stake
@@dan2178it still fits, because vampires
I'll be honest, I am not gonna download raid mostly because I just don't like the game, however I did like your ad for it, so kudos on that!
Yeah same. I'm just not into 5vs5 tune based games. I like games.ofe like did where there are a set of rules but most of the time it comes down to just your planning
Same, I've tried playing it but found it very boring and p2w. To me, it's overrated
Same, I've tried playing it but found it very boring and p2w. To me, it's overrated
19:25 the funny thing is the whole no reflection thing back in the day was because silver was used in mirrors and as such it would reflect the "evil" vampire, but since around the 40s they started using other stuff in mirrors so technically most mirrors should show their reflections.
I've always loved this vampire film, really enjoyed the more scientific take on vampirism. Blade I & II for the most part treats vampirism as a scientific disease as opposed to a supernatural affliction too. Whilst on the subject, I would love to see you cover the TV show 'The Strain' - Guillermo Del Toro has such a unique take on vampires!
Oh I'd *love* to see The Strain because that's straight up Mr. X adjacent with ancient Parasites.
The Strain is the best vampire genre program that has ever existed.
The ending was a little more meh than I would have liked, but it can't take away from an otherwise great show.
Thanks for covering this movie. I cannot think of another movie that approached the subject of "yeah, but what if everybody was a vampire?" as well as this one. And it's always nice to see Ethan Hawke, just in general.
The Reapers from Blade 2 were way more terrifying than the Sub-siders.
Bro now you gotta cover the Strigoi Parasite from FX's The Strain
A good show, had some issues but solid overall. Too many character deaths in the last half tho
@@YourHuckleberry99 These are indeed facts
I really liked the first season but it felt stupid after that
The first 2-3 seasons does what Fear The Walking Dead failed to do; properly cover the collapse of a city/civilization as more and more infected mount
I always wondered why the light from the moon didn’t do anything at all to vampires not even some kind of vamp tan considering it’s from the reflection of the sun.
Props to Roanoke for saying “sus”. Not all heroes wear capes
I remember hearing that the vampire not being able to see itself in the mirror thing originally was because back in the day mirrors were lined with silver so it made sense with the lore
I always thought it was interesting that they had completely taken over most vampire stories they're outliers just a few hiding in the woods or whatever but in this it's a complete vampire society
I recommend "The Hunt" trilogy by Andrew Fukuda. Similar concept and really cool read.
That actually makes more sense - as the vampires here learned the hard way. Vampires are apex predators and can only survive with a lot of prey. A few vampires overall and a healthy human populace is not a problem - there's always enough food. Many vampires and a dwindling amount of humans will also lead to the destruction of the vampires.
@@cayreet5992 I know I just thought it was an interesting take on it since the majority of the population are vampires they don't have to hide so there's alot of innovation to deal with vampire specific issues like sun light
His modded out car was pretty cool allowing him to drive around during the day
@@ShadowFox10587O Yes, it's interesting to see what vampires would do when they didn't have to hide. The main change to make to the story in this case should be how they get their blood without completely killing off humans. Like, they buy it. Every human has to donate blood a certain amount of times a year. Still hard to feed that many vampires, but they could have made the populace a bit smaller without foregoing the tech.
Vampire chimpanzees? F**k that noise. That shit is terrifying. If Chimps became blood thirsty vampires, human vampires wouldn't stand a chance.
I asked for this after your 30 days of night video because you got me on a vampire bender! Never disappointed! Keep up the awesome work!!
I didn't really enjoy the movie as a whole, but I liked its concept and wouldn't mind seeing the idea used more often. Regardless, it's always a pleasure to watch a film with Sam Neill in it. It's hard to see him as a villain after Jurassic Park and his fantastic performance there , but he did the villain look very well in this film imo.
I generally go to Event Horizon for him to play both sides of the coin.
It’s definitely something where the idea was much better than the execution
I wish they'd make a post apocalyptic vampire movie with this setting. Have mosy of the normal vamps turn and then it's on humans and maybe surviving regular vamps kind of just fighting to live. But it'd probably just become a generic zombie movie with most directors.
I remember seeing this movie many years ago, and was pleasantly surprised by how good it was. Over the years I was tempted to re-watch it but couldn't recall the name, and eventually forgot about it. Thanks for the video which puts a name to it. :)
i think the reason the Humvee explodes at 11:25 is because when the vampires are exposed to sunlight they burst into flames and I think its just a little exaggerated there.
Would also be cool if a movie would dive into how the vampire brain is changed when they are around for hundreds of years and their learning capabilities. Do they have to forget some things to learn new things or can their brain somehow store everything they learn over the centuries?
This channel is so underrated it makes me sad 😰
we will get rated one day! haha
People just got learn to want look up random lore videos lol. That how I found my boy. All I did was look up dead space lore.
The people farming is similar to the Blade films where in a deleted scene of the first film Frost had people being drained of blood for the vampires. In Blade Trinity there's a similar blood bank.
Dude I loved Daybreakers, I always wondered if the vampirism had supernatural aspects. Thanks for covering this one!
Glad you enjoyed it! I liked the movie alot, very interesting concepts of a vampire society overwhelming Earth
I know this movie has a lot of issues but I've always loved it, not often you get such a fresh take on an age old trope.
Literally downloaded this the moment I got notified, I absolutely love this movie and have been lowkey waiting for Roanoke to cover it
Fun fact: the actor who played senator wes turner also played captain typho in Attack Of The Clones.
Something I always wondered about how sunlight is harmful to vampires but not other forms of light. It seems that it has less to do with sunlight itself and more to do with the ultraviolet radiation that is emitted from sunlight.
which is odd as reflective UV radiation would still be damaging I imagine
I've read a few stories/seen a few where reflected light hurts, but doesn't kill them outright. Also it totally depends on which branch of vampirism someone decides to write: if you go the supernatural route (turned into demons and losing their souls but possessing the bodies of a human) then sunlight basically destroys the meatsuit because the thing that is possessing it the demon, can't do more than keep it in stasis. Usually the supernatural routes that go this way also have vampires desiccate if they don't get blood since the demon is still basically sane just holding a meatsuit that can't function. If the story goes the (almost) fully sci-fi route then even lessened UV rays that function as "high tech" silver (silver being an alchemical writing touchstone for purity) should be able to burn or at least hurt a vampire because of the antimicrobial aspect of The Sun. Presumably it's why in almost all vampire fiction, setting them ablaze (with or without the sunlight) is a good way to end them.
As a random side note since I'm writing my own dark fantasy story with vampires in it, I chose to use a harder to quantify reason for turning (basically a slightly more reader friendly version of "bubble universe theory" without having to debate "plane," "dimension," "alternate universe," and "parallel universe" because that just gets confusing as a *writer* ) where over 50% of humanity's DNA has been altered thanks to that exact Earth being a nexus point, and thus, depending on the type of creature (there are three different "species" of Vampires along with a lot of other things) then it depends on if you can or can't be exposed to sunlight. Those who basically have latent DNA activated can because they're *technically* a dhampir though there's no biological difference between the original vampire and the human with activated DNA. Those who are possessed meatsuits (think less body hopping and much more flammable) are weak to every Vampire trope in the book except for their "native soil" since the body is possessed and kept alive by what amounts to a "demon"-these guys burst into flame in the sun because of supernatural "impurities" in their souls. The third kind I'm still fleshing out because my original field of study was physics not bio chem so I'm trying to work on a good way to have there be a virus or something more scientific (since that is the point of the series, blending science, religion, history, and myth to explain how the world might work) to have a third type of vampire that is more resilient than the "demon who possessed a meatsuit less effectively than Supernatural's demons" but also doesn't have a set of latent genetics that give them powers that don't really jive with human abilities.
Regardless of which of the three in my story, you can absolutely end any of them by dousing them in flammable liquid and lighting them up like the Fourth of July.
I always respected The Strain (it's my understanding the books go into much more detail but I'm a bit of a scaredy-cat to get *much* more detail than the show already gave) for pulling that trigger on almost "full science Vamps." Even if the last season sort of lost the plot.
@@Crisjola The Strain's vampires aren't "full science" (the third book reveals the first ones literally arose from the dismembered parts of the angel of death) in that the destruction of an "elder" will instantly kill every vampire descended from them, also that killing said elders is done by blowing up the PLACE of their origin, not them. It's all very science-ey apart from that though.
The legend is based on magic..so..
I just want to say that I truly appreciate how much research and time you put into making this video!
I am crocheting a blanket and listening to you talk about one of my favorite vampire movies. I'm pretty boring. Oh and fun fact, the girl in the beginning was actually the progenitor of the outbreak. I like movie trivia.
Speaking as someone who works in the 'Blood Sciences' department in a hospital laboratory (so Biochemistry, Haematology, and Blood Transfusion) the reason they probably couldn't just grow human blood from stem cells is because the technology doesn't really exist outside of the lab. Theoretically you can grow the cells, yes, but the the exact composition of red cells to white cells to theomocytes is trickier. This would be an increadibly useful theraputic tool in patients if it existed. Also, the blood contains many other things which probably give it 'flavour' to the vampires such as proteins, hormones, electrolytes/salt ions, lipids, antibodies, sugars, dissolved gases, cell metabolic waste, ect. It also maintains a delicate equilibrium that makes it more alkaline because of the dissolved carbon dioxide that gets dissolved and move to the lungs for excretion via breathing.These are all created by cells in tissue that release those into the blood stream, they're not made in the bone marrow.
You're correct on the mustang facts, I have a blue 65. Shame to see that 66 gone though.
I'm not the type to comment on videos, I usually like and lurk. This is video is a great example of the type of content I enjoy and they're the reason why I use TH-cam. The fact that creators struggle with censorship, exposure, and being fairly compensated for ad revenue makes me frustrated with the platform. I hate that I have to leave a comment just for the sake of manipulating an algorithm that doesn't even benefit the audience I'm a part of. That being said, here we are. Keep up the good work and fight the good fight.
Hey Roanoke would you consider giving a gander at the Command and Conquer Tiberium series, a lot of the tiberium mutants would be right up your alley.
Oh yea!! Finally someone saying it!!
@@Tee008 also talking about tiberium itself, not only mutants, Tiberium Series lorewise was amazing.
@@GuilleSoler91 Given its saprotroph consumption (dissolving organic material and absorbing it via roots) I think tiberium should first be classified as a fungus. The crystals are most likely just a nutrition/energy storage similar to how plants store starch in their amyloplasts. How it can grow this excessively with the little bit of energy it can get from the absorbed organic material does seem odd. Maybe it gets additional energy from absorbing background radiation similar to how some single cell organisms have evolved to live of radioactivity in Chernobyl.
@@DeHerg initially yes, but by CnC 3 it seems to have transitioned to a fully crystalline form.
Daybreakers is my favourite vampire movie hands down 😍
I like the science over supernatural angle 😋
The "Vampires don't reflect on mirrors" considering that the original thought formed around mirrors using silver, vampiresare weak to silver too and that why they don't reflect
Pretty sad when a random guy solves a problem that the professionals can't figure out. He solved the whole blood supply problem in like... 2 sentences. And heck, that's probably not the only solution. I'm willing to bet.
Really gives ya hope for the future, don't it? :/
Nice, i never catch videos this early. You're awesome Roanoke!
I appreciate the compliment broham!
I love that the widespread cure ended up being the blood of an ex-vampire, that's such a cool concept.. Also the way that '"primer" is made is also pretty cool to see as well
20:04Here we see a subsider licking blood off the wall and it got me thinking
If not consuming blood turns a vampire to a subsider, can drinking it after you've changed turn you back into a vampire?
There was a comic book turned into a tv series not long ago call iZombie in which a woman doctor turned coroner after she turned into a zombie in a world in which if you eat human brains or a regular basis, you can keep your human personality and sense of self. as long as you eat brains, your hair turns white and your skin turns extremely pale (You can dye your hair and use skin bronzing products to disguise yourself as human though)
The zombie doctor, Olivia Moore (Liv Moore for short, pun included) can even live in the same apartment with her human best friend without fear from attack as long as she's fed and meing a coroner, she has an endless supply of brains
There is a side effect though
Like in the movie Warm Bodies, when she eats a brain, she is forced to take on the memories and personality of the person whose brain she's eaten until she eats another brain and takes on THAT persons memories and personality
The downside of the zombie transformation is that IF she doesn't eat brains for some unknown amount of time, the zombie loses their former humanity turning into a feral, shambling "normal" zombie known in their world as a Romero after George Romero
The thing is, if the zombie turns into a Romero, even if they eat as many brains as they possibly can, their human personality will never return
Would this be true for the subsiders as well?
In the movie Day Breakers, we see Edward start to change by getting longer ears but by drinking human blood, he changes back to normal
If he turned full subsider, would he turn back into a human again?
Uhm... edward could revert his subsider ears with a bit of human blood but the one that attacks him still was a savage after eating way more than him so... it looks like a dead end
I remember watching IZombie along with other tv shows like Znation and the Dome.
@@albertoandrade9807 The subsider in the movie licks up blood that was splattered on a wall so we don't know how much it consumed when it was killed
@@WallNutBreaker524 I never heard of The Dome before, I've heard of Under The Dome which was a tv series, is that it?
@33:49
an interesting thing not many people know about serotonin, is that depending on whether it crosses the blood/brain barrier it functions differently.
For the last 4 and a half years ive been treated for carcinoid syndrome - the secondary condition of having neuroendocrine cancer - When the tumors grew large enough to start secreting its own hormones it created symptoms such as rapid heart beat, flushing, [especially after consumption of alcohol or amines] and then abdominal pain, vomiting and frequent diarrhea once secreting large amounts of serotonin.
so, despite my cancer releasing dangerous levels of serotonin, it does nothing for my mood since it never crosses the blood/brain barrier
I love the summary section. You do a good job overall.
My question: the whole bat transformation thing: could it be that the need for human blood is some sort of genetic absorption from the blood that somehow reinforces the host DNA to prevent the disease from progressing and breaking down the host DNA in favor of its own?
The effects of autophagia in this case would make sense as you're telling your body to replace the human DNA with the already degraded DNA in the blood from within yourself.
Still no clue why they can't use marrow farming but still...
Roanoke Gaming,
Speaking of terrifying vampires, and diseases, do the Strigoi infection from the Strain.
I'm super excited for him to cover this. I'm sure he will. Especially with all of the Resi 8 parasite work he has to have been doing. I've heard the books are better than the show, though. And go less off the rails.
@@Crisjola,
Unfortunately the more I think about it, I think he probably won't, only because he has never covered a TV series before and he would have a lot more material to cover than he normally does, which is why I posted another suggestion, in case he doesn't feel like doing that much work.
@@GargamelGold I think it depends. If he uses the books as a jumping off point/main reference and the TV show to illustrate his point then it wouldn't be much more difficult than what he covered in Maze Runner since they're both a Trilogy of books (at least I know The Strain is) and have visual adaptations. As far as I know the TV show of The Strain doesn't deviate too much from the books but the books go into more detail. Like I've said in other comments, I'm a bit too much of a scaredy-cat to actually read the novels but I'll probably eventually get around to it because I really loved the first three (I think I only watched the first three before dropping season 4) seasons of The Strain. It's such an amazing premise.
@@Crisjola
The books and the TV series contradicts each other in some major ways. Also reading the books and watching the show, will take even longer.
For a moment I thought you were talking about the Strigoi vampires from warhammer fantasy
There's this show called The strain came out in 2014, it was about like a vampiric disease and CDC, stuff similar to this, pretty good show. U should do a vid on it 🔥
I'm considering my life choices, such as studying for exams, playing "Raid: Shadow Legends" is not one of them.
Ho Roanoke. I'd love to see a breakdown for the parasitic infection in the series The Strain. It's a pretty good show and it's got some chunky science to it! Love your stuff and keep up the good work
Bro. This movie has such a good concept and I wish they were able to really flesh it our more.
Great video as always. Biology has always intrigued me. Please keep up the good work
I always assumed the explosion was from the confined combustion of the vampires within.
What’s a bummer with pretty much all vampire movies is the “the sun is a instant death” trope, cause in lore the sun was not originally an enemy of Vampires, it’s relatively a new troupe to vampires, in reality they are just less powerful in the day
Roanoke gaming a movie you should do next is "Frankenstein's Army" that would be extremely interesting and I think you can pull it off, and also if we're talking video games I say talk about the "Vertigo" from "Resident Evil 4" and maybe do some of the creatures from the "Little nightmares" games
love how you always find good background music for the right movies... Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines!
Wonder if the girl in the beginning was Charles' 2nd daughter and she didn't want to be a vampire and killed herself and their father changing her made Abigail leave
So glad you finally covered this movie! I love it a lot, great video man
Roanoke Gaming,
If you want to do something that would be less hard work, and less serious, do video on the Cow Plant from the Sims 3.
11:22 I would have to know the exact location of the fueltank of the exploding car. If the metal beam perforated the fuel tank and made its contents spill on the inside of the car, the broken glass/sunlight could cause the vampires inside to combust the fuel and fumes. In any other case, screw exploding cars.
Who else is old enough to have think of Parasite Eve after hearing the Mitocondria explanation?
Just occurred to me how fun it would be a movie where the iNfEcTeD can't go out in moonlight.
That's where the military keeps the vampire gasoline
My good man, your videos are still, by far, the best explanation for the "what if" these viruses were an actual threat. Always entertaining, and I feel more intelligent having viewed your posts. I could have entire hypothetical discussions with my sci-fi/fantasy/horror loving friends fueled by these videos.👍🏾
The strain's vampires are actually intelligent parasitic worms taking over their bodies, creating strigoi
I like how your in video ads have a timer bar up at the top. Means I can skip ahead but not skip ahead too far. Tired of raid shadow legends ads. The game ain't my type and I keep being bombarded with the ads and skipping too far ahead...until now with your channel. So a real and sincere thank you is in order. So thank you oh glorious Roanoke the Great and Amazing Conqueror of the TH-cam Ads.
Why aren't they breeding the humans? Isn't that literally the thing we do right now with cows?
I feel like this movie didn't understand that one concept. Cattle are cattle because they can be bred to make more cattle. If you can't breed an animal in captivity then there's no point in domesticating it. Human child birth doesn't discriminate between captive or not, and as such you could literally treat the captive humans like actual cows and just breed a new generation of blood givers.
Infinite blood solved. No fancy technology needed. We got free range humans, caged humans, spicy humans, greasy humans, some people like their humans mixed, some like their humans to be pure Chinese! "Our humans are fed red meat and fish during their bleeding years, making their blood rich and tasty!" Some companies might brag. That's right. Steak fed humans. Much better than those whimpy corn fed ones.
This society could work, it's just that the writers don't understand economics.
Except the demand for cow meat its as severe as the need for blood tie that in with the gestation period and waiting long enough to get a significant enough amount of blood it would take years
People age at a much slower rate than cattle
@@quartzskull8772
In my hypothetical world the vampires have been raising humans as cattle since the beginning.
Also, fun fact about the difference here.. you don't need to bleed them dry. Even only pregnant women will need to not be bled for food. Children as young as 14 can give blood safely every few months, with a bit more taken than your average blood drive since they wouldn't have any real rights or anything.
Once an arbitrary but functional age is reached then the humans can be bled completely. Like 65.
The movie also shows that diluting blood is a viable option. Even 20% blood is enough to sustain your average vampire for the most part. Combining the current system, which is blood dilution and rationing, with my system would net the Vampires and ever growing and sustainable flow of blood.
@@someguy4384 sure they take a little bit St a time but when you are trying to keep a few hundred million or even a billion vampires there wouldn't be enough and if a vampire has trouble going a few weeks without blood it would be challenging to wait 14 years
And while diluting is an option it's less effective and still triggers animalistic responses
“Blood riot” is an absolutely terrifying concept if you think about it
I would love to see a biological breakdown of the parasites that turn people into vampires called The Strigoi from the TV Series/Comics/Novels "The Strain."
But 90% of that would be Roanoke just repeating stuff they say in the show. Maybe he could go a little more in-depth speculating about the worms and the White, but finding scientific explanations for the mechanics behind the strigoi is a big part of the show.
I love the concept of a vampire dominated planet it shows the reason why vampires in other universe don't have massive numbers because it means less blood to go around.
This film got picked apart quickly by my wife who was sitting around arguing the existence of areas on earth with near 24hr sunlight or desserts while I brought up the fact that an economy of "protected" humans would've quickly sprang up offering blood as currency.
those areas are also not really all toi habitable and even getting there is another thing.
Glad I'm not the only one who refers to him as "The dinosaur man"
I want another Wesley Snipes Blade movie, I don’t see why they can’t do it.
Probably because Wesley Snipes is facing charges for not paying his taxes and the third movie was such a flop that it ruined the chance of making another Blade movie.
@@calebgadison167 Well the third movie wasn’t his fault. The taxes thing was.
I usually end up watching (or rewatching) the film's you cover, good stuff mate
Plot twist: Vampirism was created in a lab in China
That would be amazing
Based China
Bruh at that point nuke the place
Megan…..
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One of my favourite films ever, so glad you did this one