Still use my BMPCC and BMCC regulary on professional shoots when I'm looking for a filmic look or shooting a period story. The RAW from those cameras is fantastic.
@@carlscinema7086 I don't like versing them against each other. I think they are the most perfect A and B cam combo I've ever used. The color science is almost an exact match straight out of camera. I use BMCC as A Cam and typically use BMPCC as gimbal Cam. If I could have only one it would be the Pocket. It's just more versatile. You can stick a focal adapter on it and get a different look. Although the 2.5K is a good bit sharper than the pocket.
@@jamesmathews243 I misread it the first time and thought of the micro at first. Was intrested in how they compared since they both use the same sensor. Nice to hear that the BMCC and BMPCC work so well as a combo. I can understand that the BMPCC makes for a great gimbal cam.
Carl I just picked up one a few weeks ago as well. I have a BMPCC4K, SonyA7SIII, and Sigma FP - and I still love this little guy :). Thanks for all your videos - have been a silent observer for a while. Cheers.
Totally agree. This one and BMMCC. They’re still more than relevant today. While many of the newer cams are purely marketing products designed to make you spend more for the companies to earn more
Great video. I have one and use it professionally. I also have the 6K version, and I am inclined to think the image of the older one is more beautiful, This little camera is a gem.
I am so happy people are still talking about the BMCC/BMMCC and continue to be blown away by their image quality to this day! I still have a BMMCC that was once rigged out as my A-cam for years because nothing came close to the Fairchild sensor, and I will argue that nothing still matches. It still has its place in my arsenal of gear because of that "look" you described.
I found another brand new sdcard that works well in my bmpcc, Kingston canvas react... I had try to record a full card in raw at 30fps and no frame drop at all, if it can help
Ok, so this is the card I got last year ( Kingston Canvas React 256gb) when I bought it after many different “recommended cards” from the site. I spent more on cards that didn’t work than on the camera itself. Here’s the issue I’m running into after finally finding that the Canvas React worked: it doesn’t matter if I’m shooting prores or cinemadng, when my total footage count reaches 15 minutes, the camera refuses to record at all past that, even though I have PLENTY of room left on the card. It says “ready’ then for an instant flickers “rec” before cancelling back to “ready’ and that shot did not register. My work around is to transfer my footage. THEN after deleting the footage it STILL doesn’t record... hmmm... so then I have to reformat the card in-camera, and suddenly it works again. Something else to note: the power button is EXTREMELY temperamental, so don’t freak out if you hold it for a second and it won’t turn on. Just tap the power, it will boot. Apparently this was a firmware bug that never got patched and they then decided to move on to other cameras.
Also of note, the cards that I mention I spent a fortune on, there’s basically no way to guarantee that you are getting a compatible Sandisk Extreme anymore because the non-V30 has a mass produced Chinese-factory version that doesn’t match the same model number by a few letters. No matter if you do your due diligence, all the listers selling it will not disclose that it’s actually this Chinese version and not the recommended. So if the 128 Kingston Canvas React works without a charm then GET THAT, don’t fuck around with Sandisk, rolling the dice when it comes to this camera and your hard-earned dollars.
Can we all just pretend like it sucks so the price will drop? The prices on these things were going down for awhile, now they've started to creep up again.
Haha I'm on it! :D Still can't believe the crazy deal I got on mine. I only paid 1400 SEK (roughly 150 USD) since you couldn't power it with internal batteries. But external power works with no problem.
@@rinusworldzm Haven't tried the BMCC 2.5k but i think you'll be happy with any of the combinations. Maybe one of each would give you the best of both worlds? I've heard they match pretty easily.
@@carlscinema7086 yeah. There's a video comparing the 4k, bmpcc and the 2.5k and they were matched really well. Even upscaling the others to 4k worked really well.
@@carlscinema7086 honestly I don't shoot a lot and I never used it for a whole day. 1 battery will give me 20-30min "swiched-on-time" (only switching it on when you're taking a shot is the best idea). Actually the cooling system uses a ton of power and it's basically running all the time the camera is swiched on.
A camera being 8 years old doesn't really worry me. Most movies are mastered in 2K and with technology these days with smart upscaling it's really not a worry. Definitely a camera ahead of its time.
Great content thanks. I am aware how much hard work it is to gain subs in the beginning and the commitment it takes, well done mate. All the best going forward. Subbed!
This really shines when used in a cinema rig than for run-n-gun shooting. The 4K is much better as a "pocket" type camera, as long as it's a big pocket.
Loved your intro shots... I just bought a BMCC 2.5k on ebay, I think this and the BMPCC are fantastic value today and the images that come out of them are spectacular and stand up to any modern cameras, irrespective of sensor resolution. The colours and that creamy Alexa-like look are just georgeous. Very excited to play with my new camera when it arrives in a few days. I nearly went for the pocket, but last minute decided for me the BMCC was a better fit as I want to use it more for home studio work and the BMCC has SDI output, balanced microphone sockets, and even a Thunderbolt connection to see waveforms and monitor audio levels. But I think I might even buy a pocket in future, to match to it...
In a couple of years we will probably have hardcoded in Davinci resolve an AI upscaler which will make any resolution higher than 1080p irrelevant. You'll be able to zoom 3 or 4 times without any quality loss. I got the feeling that my BMPCC is gonna be usefull for a very long while. Great video by the way!
Really great video. Great explanation of how to use ISO too - it bugs me that people say it's not a good camera for low light, it so is!! You just have to light the scene properly and get the settings right.
I really recommend to take a look at super16 cinema zooms, such as canon 8-64 t2.4. They are affordable for high-end cinema glass (less then 5k) and amazing both optically and mechanically. And usable on gh5 and bmpcc4k as well with crop modes. Also, there is a special speedbooster 0.52x model for original bmpcc.
I have Z-CAM S6 and Original BMPCC. S6 has around 2 stops more DR from that I see side by side and it's overall better but the image from BMPCC looks so awesome after all these years.
Hi Carl! What is the speed-booster you have for your BMPCC? Looking to get some lenses for mine and the 3x crop-factor makes it difficult to get wide focal lengths.
My main speedbooster is the Viltrox EF-M2 but i also own a Zhongyi lens turbo II which i normally leave on the pocket (and the viltrox on my GH5). The lens turbo II doesn't have any electronic communication with the body or lens though.
The original BMPCC is outstanding value for money. However, the screen and HDMI port are fragile. I recommend using a cage. And a speedbooster is a must IMO.
Yeah, exactly with ISO. Still using it with the Micro Cinema. 2.88 crop - I don't like Speedbooster. I don't like CS4 either - more video IMO. Super Scale mode in Davinci and it will be 4k :)
+ONE PROBLEM WITH THIS CAMERA...warrning to all owners the HDMI port will fall off at some point...I had mine until now loved it but the port fell off and messed up the camera...its dead now
Thanks a lot man! Really nice video and made my disappointment with my buy go away! So I live in Sweden and I wanna get some good captures in this summer with this and probably a drone on top. Can you please give me some tips on what type of lenses to buy and how to proceed with the Resolve effectively?
Thanks! What lenses to buy really depends on your budget and what type of shooting you are intending to do, zooms or primes, manual or electronic, native or adapted and so on.
@@carlscinema7086 You're welcome! :) Well, I need for the start shoot a video from a hotel and their kitchen and bar. Something like this or similar: th-cam.com/video/JtitcwwEl-A/w-d-xo.html I think myself that I need a gimbal, and a lense and battery support for the beginning. But SSD cannot be connected to this right? So maybe filming RAW will be cancelled?
If you are looking to film something like that you don't really need a gimbal. That entire thing was shot handheld. You can't record to an ssd with the original bmpcc, just to sd cards.
Carl's Cinema Thanks a lot mate! Do i know what kind of handle I should buy? The person selling to me gave also a cage but I guess I need more stuff to couple to that?
The first part (during the darker scenes) is "Etherial Choir Ascends" by Doug Maxwell/Media Right Productions. The second (when the actual camera shows) is "Wrong" by VYEN. Both can be found in the TH-cam sound library.
Hi Carl! Absolutely brilliant video! Thanks for these important informations! I have some extra batteries for my bmpcc but I’m running out of power in 10 mins max on each 😞 Could you please let me know which dummy battery you use? May you have any links to buy this battery setup ? Thanks in advance !
Hi Carl. I saw you are using Viltrox EF-M2 Speedbooster. Do you know if metabones speedbooster ultra works well on this camera? Saw aswell in some videos that people get another version of metabones canon EF to bmpcc. Could you tell me whats the difference? Thank you!
I do have a Viltrox EF-M2 but also own a Zhongyi Lens Turbo II which I basically leave on the original bmpcc all the time to avoid having to swap the adapters. The metabones ultra would work the same way as the viltrox with the same focal reduction of 0.71x. Metabones also makes a XL version which has a factor of 0.64x and the BMPCC version which is made to be used only on the original bmpcc which has a factor of 0.58x. Hope that helps.
Thank you so much for making this video! It's kinda sad how the BMPCC 4k and 6K videos are the first thing that comes up when you type BMPCC on TH-cam. I still have my original camera and i love it. Please i need your opinion on this, so I recently got the Metabone EF speedbooster, my question is if had to buy (not so expensive) 3 EF lenses for different kinds of shots, what lenses would you recommand?
It's kind of hard to say without knowing your budget or what type of shooting you are doing. Are you looking for zooms or primes etc? A good allround zoom could be the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 for example. And if you want to go even wider perhaps a Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 would be a nice fit. Or if you are going with primes maybe a set of a wide, a standard and a short telephoto would be nice. On this sensor with a speedbooster that would be roughly a 10-17ish (somewhere in that range depending on how wide you want), a 24mm and a 35/50mm
Carl's Cinema Yeah, that seems to be the best option that i have right now, especially that i’m looking for versatility without spending too much money.
Would the Laowa 7.5mm be wider or a 11-20 Tokina lens with the BMPCC specific .58 metabones? Do you have to use a full frame lens of the .58 metabones?
If you are using the tokina at its widest you'll get 11 x 0,58 = 6,38. So the tokina would be a bit wider. The bmpcc with the 0.58x speedbooster would still be a little bit smaller than Super35/APS-C so both full frame and Super35/APS-C lenses will work.
@@carlscinema7086 I shoot mainly Prores with my BMPCC's and BMMCC. I purchased the BMMCC mainly to shoot slow motion. I like the color science of the old sensors, more filmic. I graduated from SFSU in 2003 and we only shot on 16mm film. I do plan on buying a BMPCC 4K not to replace any camera but to have in the arsenal. I hope to use the original BMPCC's for many years in the future.
Carl's Cinema thanks Carl, but in terms of Space Of Color (Rec 709, 2020, etc) which is the equivalent to in science color V1 and V4 in original BMPCC, thanks for your answer.
Carl's Cinema So, In terms of space color (Rec 709 or 2020, etc ) the equivalent to Gen 1 and Gen 4 in BlackMagic Desing is equal to ? I’m confused! Could you help me please?
Thanks for great video. I have a BMPCC original. I watch the videos taken on the Internet. Generally, the videos are extremely fluid. But my shots are not fluent. It's like there's a constant shaking, or staccato progress. What could this be due to?
I have had this camera for a while now and barely use it. But what keeps is relevant for me is it having Gen4 color science with raw. That is so much easier to work with and fun to grade. Yet gen1 still has this special look to it.
Thanks for your video! Could you tell me please what plate are you using in this video to attach the adapter for the external battery? Do you have any link to amazon?
Thanks for the review. I'm considering one of these at slightly less than the cost of a (full frame) Sony A7. I'm looking to use it mainly in a multi-cam setting filming live footage in low lit studios and theatres. Perhaps not an obvious choice but could this be configured to match other cameras colour wise, while resolving details in the shadows without relying on a post production workflow?
It's really not made for a multicam workflow, the image is very unique - you'd have a hard time matching it to others or others to it (unless they're also Blackmagic Cinema Cameras). It rarely produces great results from just plonking it down to capture stuff, it needs a lot of attention when filming and in post.
Carl's Cinema a bit too heavy for run and gun type of shooting. Stab and monitor with external power are adding too much weight. It all started as a fan project but now I have some doubts that actually a73 or gh5 could do a better job as the have IS and don’t require so many different external stuff
Hi very good night! First friend congratulations for helping to understand! I have a question that I'm not able to understand on this camera could you help me ?! : I do not know the best way to choose the degree °, which is the correct buddy?!: 180 °, or 360 ° ?! Which one did you use in your recording ?! Thank you for your help!
Hi! A 180° shutter is the most common shutter and is the shutter refered to when talking about the 180° shutter rule. It will give you the most natural looking motion blur and almost all movies stick to it unless they are going for a specific look with a different amount of motion blur. Using a photo camera and setting the shutter speed to 1/50 when shooting 25fps is the same as using a 180° shutter angle for example. Hope that helps
@@carlscinema7086 523/5000 keep writing Very good morning my friend! Thanks for the answer! I could make a video on that topic! : Explaining camera angles, more showing the CONFIGURATION on the camera and types of light for each degree chosen on the camera for that specific scene! Using varying degrees for each light! My camera is showing a type of noise and does not have a cinematic look or with the best software! and a standard 14mm 2.8 lens! Thanks in advance for the answer! It will be a pleasure to watch and even share!
Generally when shooting video or film you don't use the shutter for exposure at all, so the shutter would stay at 180° regardless of the light. And you would instead use aperture, ND-filters or the ISO/gain for exposure. Are you sure you're not underexposing your image? Less light generally means more noise.
They are two very different cameras so it really depends on your need and what you are going to use it for. But 500 for an a6400 sounds like a great price.
@@carlscinema7086 Thanks. I don't see a difference on my computer between HD and HD upscaled to 4K. But I haven't tried it on youtube yet, but will give it a try.
@@bobspez It's just a way of getting around the low bitrate on youtube. If someone watches in 4K they'll get a higher bitrate stream from TH-cam vs watching in 1080p.
Hey Carl, I've been trying to find good information on which gimbal or glider I can use with my original BMPCC. Any chance you know anything about this?
As far as I know they do have the same sensor, so the image should be more or less the same. The micro can go up to 60fps and also has a CinemaDNG raw 3:1 compression option.
Exactly the same...... literally but the micro needs a rig and the bmpcc needs a book to sit on flat ..... I use my pocket without any rig just for video and b roll .... The micro I use for my drone and I have it rigged up
The battery plate is a NPF plate with a 12v dc output which I mounted to an arca swiss base plate using a regular 1/4" screw. I currently have it mounted to a universal cage which I have attached to the bmpcc now.
You would need a HDMI capture card to input the hdmi signal from the camera to your computer. And then make sure your hdmi is sending a clean signal in your camera settings
Hey thanks for the video. I bought this camera. I have tried to shoot with this camera and get good pictures but for some reason it is stuck in black and white and not color. Any suggestions.
The camera has a 1920x1080p sensor so thats the resolution of the raw files. You might be thinking of the BMCC which has a 2.5k sensor. The files are roughly 2 MB per frame, so for 25p that would be 50MB per second (Megabytes, megabits would be 400Mb/s). So 1 minute will be roughly 3GB, giving you about 20 minutes on a 64gb card.
Has anyone experienced the flashing red exclamation point? My camera seems to be dropping frames within seconds using a sandisk ultra plus 80/mbs. Any advice?
The youtube compression really isn't fair to the quality coming out of the cameras :/ I uploaded this one in 4K to get a atleast get a higher bitrate stream.
@@carlscinema7086 i know, i notice this huge difference between TH-cam and Vimeo, in the trailer of the movie "Cosmos" shot with only a single Bmpcc. On Vimeo it's perfect.
Not 100% sure what you mean by the raw part, it is a 12-bit lossless compression (think of it more like how a zip-file works) so it's very close to uncompressed. For most cases ProRes should be just fine, but it can be pretty fun to explore the raw aswell.
There are a few differences, the newer 4k version obviously has some more features, 4k recording, dual native iso and so on. But if you are purely talking about image quality some people actually prefer the original and say it has a more "organic" look to it.Matteo Bertoli has a nice video for side by side comparison: th-cam.com/video/uFMYVsKY3Es/w-d-xo.html
I have two different ways of powering the camera. The first is the Sony Npf battery plate shown in the video. The second is my most recent purchase which I only use in a rig, V-mount.
@@carlscinema7086 That's such a shame. I just bought the Canon 7D just for Magic Lantern to shoot RAW. They're so cheap now it seems silly not to give it a go and see what RAW is all about. I paid £200 for it. But if the original BMPCC had BRAW it would have been worth the extra as the file sizes and media would have been more manageable. Thanks for getting back to me. Appreciate it.
Why braw? It has regular dng raw, full sized raw files, loseless quality, and in full hd it's nothing scarry for your sd card or hard drive. Working with them is easy, if you add all at once to the premiere or resolve, it will create video clip automaticly.
@@michalsierzchula Just watched an old video and back then you couldn't delete files in camera or playback video you'd just recorded. Have these things been added now in firmware updates. What about playback in davinci resolve as well is it playable?
To this day this camera still holds up like a champ! I have both the original and the bmpcc 4k. I also have the Micro Cinema Camera which is just awesome. I actually made a video to see how they compare against each other. The micro, original bmpcc, bmpcc 4k, lumix gx85 and ursa mini 4k. Check it out! th-cam.com/video/HybIF0BfJY0/w-d-xo.html
@@carlscinema7086 thanks for checcking it out! i also made a very quick A/B test, with just the original bmpcc superscaled and the bmpcc 4k and to me the orihinal actually looks better. Its the second to last video on my channel.
Most underrated camera hands down. Never going to sell mine :D
For sure an underrated little camera.
Jamie Fenn the original is such a beautiful design, will never sell mine.
Hey do you know a good stabilizer for this camera
Agreed!
Can you tell me if one can record in "cinematic widescreen" with this model? Like 21:9
I’m a fan of anyone still giving props to the OG BMPCC in 2020. That camera is a classic. Great job on this vid too man!
Thanks man! It deserves some props for sure :D
Still use my BMPCC and BMCC regulary on professional shoots when I'm looking for a filmic look or shooting a period story. The RAW from those cameras is fantastic.
That's awesome! What's your take on BMPCC vs BMCC?
@@carlscinema7086 I don't like versing them against each other. I think they are the most perfect A and B cam combo I've ever used. The color science is almost an exact match straight out of camera. I use BMCC as A Cam and typically use BMPCC as gimbal Cam. If I could have only one it would be the Pocket. It's just more versatile. You can stick a focal adapter on it and get a different look. Although the 2.5K is a good bit sharper than the pocket.
@@jamesmathews243 I misread it the first time and thought of the micro at first. Was intrested in how they compared since they both use the same sensor. Nice to hear that the BMCC and BMPCC work so well as a combo. I can understand that the BMPCC makes for a great gimbal cam.
can MacBookpro M1 handle editing?
@@melonmelonii what year is your MacBook pro?
Picked one up along with a cage, extra batteries, and a focus puller for $350
Awesome! Hope you enjoy it 👍
Carl I just picked up one a few weeks ago as well. I have a BMPCC4K, SonyA7SIII, and Sigma FP - and I still love this little guy :). Thanks for all your videos - have been a silent observer for a while. Cheers.
Totally agree. This one and BMMCC. They’re still more than relevant today. While many of the newer cams are purely marketing products designed to make you spend more for the companies to earn more
For sure, there's alot of marketing hype making people think they have to sell their perfectly fine 1 year old camera to get the newest model.
Great video. I have one and use it professionally. I also have the 6K version, and I am inclined to think the image of the older one is more beautiful, This little camera is a gem.
For sure and since it's old, great deals can be found. Seems like everyone who owns one or has at some point really loves it.
I am so happy people are still talking about the BMCC/BMMCC and continue to be blown away by their image quality to this day! I still have a BMMCC that was once rigged out as my A-cam for years because nothing came close to the Fairchild sensor, and I will argue that nothing still matches. It still has its place in my arsenal of gear because of that "look" you described.
I found another brand new sdcard that works well in my bmpcc, Kingston canvas react... I had try to record a full card in raw at 30fps and no frame drop at all, if it can help
That's awesome!
Which size? Thanks
I’ve two 64go, paid 18€ each and I’m planning to buy one or two 128go
I’ve also heard that the 256go will not work
Ok, so this is the card I got last year ( Kingston Canvas React 256gb) when I bought it after many different “recommended cards” from the site. I spent more on cards that didn’t work than on the camera itself. Here’s the issue I’m running into after finally finding that the Canvas React worked: it doesn’t matter if I’m shooting prores or cinemadng, when my total footage count reaches 15 minutes, the camera refuses to record at all past that, even though I have PLENTY of room left on the card. It says “ready’ then for an instant flickers “rec” before cancelling back to “ready’ and that shot did not register. My work around is to transfer my footage. THEN after deleting the footage it STILL doesn’t record... hmmm... so then I have to reformat the card in-camera, and suddenly it works again. Something else to note: the power button is EXTREMELY temperamental, so don’t freak out if you hold it for a second and it won’t turn on. Just tap the power, it will boot. Apparently this was a firmware bug that never got patched and they then decided to move on to other cameras.
Also of note, the cards that I mention I spent a fortune on, there’s basically no way to guarantee that you are getting a compatible Sandisk Extreme anymore because the non-V30 has a mass produced Chinese-factory version that doesn’t match the same model number by a few letters. No matter if you do your due diligence, all the listers selling it will not disclose that it’s actually this Chinese version and not the recommended. So if the 128 Kingston Canvas React works without a charm then GET THAT, don’t fuck around with Sandisk, rolling the dice when it comes to this camera and your hard-earned dollars.
Can we all just pretend like it sucks so the price will drop? The prices on these things were going down for awhile, now they've started to creep up again.
Haha I'm on it! :D Still can't believe the crazy deal I got on mine. I only paid 1400 SEK (roughly 150 USD) since you couldn't power it with internal batteries. But external power works with no problem.
This was excellent! Great delivery of pertinent information.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Such a pleasure to see my old beast of a camera rising again
It really is a beast, seems like everyone who has or do own one loves it.
Nice work I like the way you mounted the plate on the bottom so it fits the battery I’m gonna try do that
Awesome! Actually have it mounted on top right now though
Great video man. Really great video. I love this camera... alot... It's amazing.
It really is, not selling it anytime soon.
@@carlscinema7086 I'm trying to get 2 of these or 1 bmpcc and 1 bmcc 2.5k. Or 2 2.5ks. Still figuring out the combo that'll work for me.
@@rinusworldzm Haven't tried the BMCC 2.5k but i think you'll be happy with any of the combinations. Maybe one of each would give you the best of both worlds? I've heard they match pretty easily.
@@carlscinema7086 yeah. There's a video comparing the 4k, bmpcc and the 2.5k and they were matched really well. Even upscaling the others to 4k worked really well.
Wouldn't sell mine. Easily stands toe to toe with far more expensive cinema cameras, IMHO. Good job, man.
So excited, I will be getting one soon. Your video taught me something new about ways to use the camera. Thank you.
That's awesome! You're gonna love, seems like everyone who owns one or has at some point really loves it.
The excellent color science and DR of this camera means it will never be under-spec'd.
That's true! A nice look is a nice look, no matter the specs.
I also got my self a used one half a year ago. Paired with old nikon glass and changing the colorscience to the 4.gen makes a great look.
I use several small batteries (came with it when i bought it). So I actually put it in the pocket of my jackets.
What's you experience with the battery life? How many do you need for a day?
@@carlscinema7086 honestly I don't shoot a lot and I never used it for a whole day.
1 battery will give me 20-30min "swiched-on-time" (only switching it on when you're taking a shot is the best idea).
Actually the cooling system uses a ton of power and it's basically running all the time the camera is swiched on.
A camera being 8 years old doesn't really worry me. Most movies are mastered in 2K and with technology these days with smart upscaling it's really not a worry. Definitely a camera ahead of its time.
For sure, the hype over resolution and "needing" 6k or 8k is mostly because of marketing
Great content thanks. I am aware how much hard work it is to gain subs in the beginning and the commitment it takes, well done mate.
All the best going forward.
Subbed!
Thanks man, that's awesome :)
This really shines when used in a cinema rig than for run-n-gun shooting. The 4K is much better as a "pocket" type camera, as long as it's a big pocket.
For sure, it isn't really optimized for run-n-gun shooting, but that not the intention with the camera anyway.
Thanks for the info, I love the bmpcc .. Do you know what the latest update for this camera would be?
Not off the top of my head. But i'll try to remember checking my bmpcc when i get home in a few days.
It took one video and im a subscriber now. Great content!
Thanks, welcome to the family!
Loved your intro shots... I just bought a BMCC 2.5k on ebay, I think this and the BMPCC are fantastic value today and the images that come out of them are spectacular and stand up to any modern cameras, irrespective of sensor resolution. The colours and that creamy Alexa-like look are just georgeous. Very excited to play with my new camera when it arrives in a few days. I nearly went for the pocket, but last minute decided for me the BMCC was a better fit as I want to use it more for home studio work and the BMCC has SDI output, balanced microphone sockets, and even a Thunderbolt connection to see waveforms and monitor audio levels. But I think I might even buy a pocket in future, to match to it...
Blackmagic really makes some awesome cameras. Hope you will enjoy your new camera, im sure you will :)
I was thinking get the Pocket but now, my heart is beating for the micro or the Pocket 4k. I will go for the Pocket 4k coz of frame rates.
One of the best of all time, I will never sell mine.
Can't see myself selling mine either
Just picked up mine for 400$ local! Even the footage I just uploaded shot on the way back to the car is amazing
Thats awesome! Enjoy
Very well done video.you pointed out so well some less explained facts by others. Thank you.See you again.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it :)
Thank you for your explanation of the ISO in the BMPCC! Very helpful :)
In a couple of years we will probably have hardcoded in Davinci resolve an AI upscaler which will make any resolution higher than 1080p irrelevant. You'll be able to zoom 3 or 4 times without any quality loss. I got the feeling that my BMPCC is gonna be usefull for a very long while.
Great video by the way!
An interesting thought for sure, let's see where the future takes us.
Really great video. Great explanation of how to use ISO too - it bugs me that people say it's not a good camera for low light, it so is!! You just have to light the scene properly and get the settings right.
I love its low light pass my a6400
Really good vid man! Love the cinematic beginning
Thanks man
Great video, thanks. Which stabilisation lens would you recommend to this camera?
I have only used it with adapted non-stabilized lenses, so unfortunately I don't really have any recommendations
ok, thanks. @@carlscinema7086
Yes, it is an amazing little camera, the little camera that could.
It does not have 4K you say? Try Superscale in Resolve, it is magic!
I really recommend to take a look at super16 cinema zooms, such as canon 8-64 t2.4. They are affordable for high-end cinema glass (less then 5k) and amazing both optically and mechanically. And usable on gh5 and bmpcc4k as well with crop modes.
Also, there is a special speedbooster 0.52x model for original bmpcc.
Not within my budget but wow, seems like a really interesting lens. Apparently it was used in the movie Hurt Locker which was shot on super16mm.
Another option: Leica 12-60mm for Panasonic (MFT mount). It has internal stabilization.
The speed booster actually reduces the crop factor from 2.88x to 1.75x which is almost apsc.
That is true if you get the specific metabones bmpcc version. I'm using a 0.71x version though, which brings the crop to roughly 2x
Alright this video made me get one and it’s on the way !
Awesome!
Do you know the exact name of the cards that are compatible with Cinema DNG shooting? Just bought mine used and i don't know if my cards will work.
Here's the list of recommended SD cards from Blackmagic: www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/43083
@@carlscinema7086 thanks so much!!!
I am also a big fan from the old one. You speak very well. Thanks......
I have Z-CAM S6 and Original BMPCC. S6 has around 2 stops more DR from that I see side by side and it's overall better but the image from BMPCC looks so awesome after all these years.
That sounds like a fun comparison. The BMPCC still has some punch to it today, in 2020
Hi Carl!
What is the speed-booster you have for your BMPCC? Looking to get some lenses for mine and the 3x crop-factor makes it difficult to get wide focal lengths.
My main speedbooster is the Viltrox EF-M2 but i also own a Zhongyi lens turbo II which i normally leave on the pocket (and the viltrox on my GH5). The lens turbo II doesn't have any electronic communication with the body or lens though.
The original BMPCC is outstanding value for money. However, the screen and HDMI port are fragile. I recommend using a cage. And a speedbooster is a must IMO.
It has some drawbacks like that for sure, but as you say, it's still an outstanding value for money.
indie mogul sent me hear..great stuff bro,...i love this camera sells reasonable in my country
That's awesome! Was really surprised when I watched the video and saw one of my own videos pop up :D
Quality content on a quality channel! You will be big one day. What lens did you use for the sitting down talking shots? 0:45?
Thanks, really awesome to hear! If I remember correctly that would be my Canon FD 24mm F2 (modded to EF-mount) + Viltrox EF-M2 speedbooster on my GH5
Now that i think of it again it might have been the Sigma 24-70mm 2.8 @24mm 🤔
Carl's Cinema on what camera body?
Carl's Cinema oh wait never mind I see what camera it is
The BMPCC HD has a superior image compared to the 4 or 6k. Just my opinion.
Yeah some people prefer the look of the original, really says alot about the camera 👍
Almost 2021 and nowadays The BMPCC 1080 is the best pocket camera of BlackMagic.
@@OpticalProducciones agreed!
Subbed! Just for the BMPCC content!!
Awesome! Welcome to the family
Yeah, exactly with ISO. Still using it with the Micro Cinema. 2.88 crop - I don't like Speedbooster. I don't like CS4 either - more video IMO. Super Scale mode in Davinci and it will be 4k :)
+ONE PROBLEM WITH THIS CAMERA...warrning to all owners the HDMI port will fall off at some point...I had mine until now loved it but the port fell off and messed up the camera...its dead now
That sucks, sorry to hear that.
That's why you need a cage that let you screw the cable from both sides fixed on place (squize it)
Michał Sierzchuła agreed
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 WOW... this was great Man...
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it :)
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Thanks a lot man! Really nice video and made my disappointment with my buy go away! So I live in Sweden and I wanna get some good captures in this summer with this and probably a drone on top. Can you please give me some tips on what type of lenses to buy and how to proceed with the Resolve effectively?
Thanks! What lenses to buy really depends on your budget and what type of shooting you are intending to do, zooms or primes, manual or electronic, native or adapted and so on.
@@carlscinema7086 You're welcome! :) Well, I need for the start shoot a video from a hotel and their kitchen and bar. Something like this or similar:
th-cam.com/video/JtitcwwEl-A/w-d-xo.html
I think myself that I need a gimbal, and a lense and battery support for the beginning. But SSD cannot be connected to this right? So maybe filming RAW will be cancelled?
If you are looking to film something like that you don't really need a gimbal. That entire thing was shot handheld. You can't record to an ssd with the original bmpcc, just to sd cards.
Carl's Cinema Thanks a lot mate! Do i know what kind of handle I should buy? The person selling to me gave also a cage but I guess I need more stuff to couple to that?
Do you mean a top handle? I just use a universal one from smallrig which bolts down to a cage.
Quality video and setup. Quick q: what's the name and artist of that intro song?
The first part (during the darker scenes) is "Etherial Choir Ascends" by Doug Maxwell/Media Right Productions. The second (when the actual camera shows) is "Wrong" by VYEN. Both can be found in the TH-cam sound library.
Hi Carl!
Absolutely brilliant video! Thanks for these important informations!
I have some extra batteries for my bmpcc but I’m running out of power in 10 mins max on each 😞
Could you please let me know which dummy battery you use?
May you have any links to buy this battery setup ?
Thanks in advance !
Made a video about power solutions for the camera: th-cam.com/video/uXSFfkUF5ig/w-d-xo.html (links in the bio of that video)
Hi Carl. I saw you are using Viltrox EF-M2 Speedbooster. Do you know if metabones speedbooster ultra works well on this camera? Saw aswell in some videos that people get another version of metabones canon EF to bmpcc. Could you tell me whats the difference? Thank you!
I do have a Viltrox EF-M2 but also own a Zhongyi Lens Turbo II which I basically leave on the original bmpcc all the time to avoid having to swap the adapters. The metabones ultra would work the same way as the viltrox with the same focal reduction of 0.71x. Metabones also makes a XL version which has a factor of 0.64x and the BMPCC version which is made to be used only on the original bmpcc which has a factor of 0.58x. Hope that helps.
Hi Carl, any link for the external battery plate, battery, cables? where can I buy these. thanks!
Made a video about batteries etc for the camera: th-cam.com/video/uXSFfkUF5ig/w-d-xo.html
Lots of links in the description of that one :)
Thank you so much for making this video! It's kinda sad how the BMPCC 4k and 6K videos are the first thing that comes up when you type BMPCC on TH-cam. I still have my original camera and i love it. Please i need your opinion on this, so I recently got the Metabone EF speedbooster, my question is if had to buy (not so expensive) 3 EF lenses for different kinds of shots, what lenses would you recommand?
It's kind of hard to say without knowing your budget or what type of shooting you are doing. Are you looking for zooms or primes etc? A good allround zoom could be the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 for example. And if you want to go even wider perhaps a Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 would be a nice fit. Or if you are going with primes maybe a set of a wide, a standard and a short telephoto would be nice. On this sensor with a speedbooster that would be roughly a 10-17ish (somewhere in that range depending on how wide you want), a 24mm and a 35/50mm
Carl's Cinema thank you Carl! This is definitely gonna help me choose what lenses to get. Maybe i’ll go for one zoom and two prime lenses.
@@Zarouati Glad i could help. One zoom and two primes could be a great set for sure.
Carl's Cinema Yeah, that seems to be the best option that i have right now, especially that i’m looking for versatility without spending too much money.
do you know the last update on this camera?
Would the Laowa 7.5mm be wider or a 11-20 Tokina lens with the BMPCC specific .58 metabones? Do you have to use a full frame lens of the .58 metabones?
If you are using the tokina at its widest you'll get 11 x 0,58 = 6,38. So the tokina would be a bit wider. The bmpcc with the 0.58x speedbooster would still be a little bit smaller than Super35/APS-C so both full frame and Super35/APS-C lenses will work.
@@carlscinema7086 Thanks so much for the answer and content!
Hi can u make a video on all the lenses and mounts compatable wtih black magic pocket cinema camera original.
Great video, nice camera!
Thanks! It's a lovely little camera.
I still use my 3 BMPCC's and BMMCC and love them. Now I know I can still buy good SDXC cards that work in the camera.
That sounds awesome! What's your take on bmpcc vs bmmcc?
@@carlscinema7086 I shoot mainly Prores with my BMPCC's and BMMCC. I purchased the BMMCC mainly to shoot slow motion. I like the color science of the old sensors, more filmic. I graduated from SFSU in 2003 and we only shot on 16mm film. I do plan on buying a BMPCC 4K not to replace any camera but to have in the arsenal. I hope to use the original BMPCC's for many years in the future.
Thanks for the insight, really seems like you got a well thought out kit 👍
Hi, which memory card do You use in the bmpcc for prores And Raw? Thanks.
Carl, a cuestión: In what color space recording the original BMPCC, thanks for your answer.
Blackmagic film. The original bmpcc shoots in color science v1, but if you shoot in raw you can change it to v4 in davinci resolve
Carl's Cinema thanks Carl, but in terms of Space Of Color (Rec 709, 2020, etc) which is the equivalent to in science color V1 and V4 in original BMPCC, thanks for your answer.
Color space is called blackmagic design, and then either gen 1 or gen 4.
Carl's Cinema So, In terms of space color (Rec 709 or 2020, etc ) the equivalent to Gen 1 and Gen 4 in BlackMagic Desing is equal to ? I’m confused! Could you help me please?
Thanks for great video. I have a BMPCC original. I watch the videos taken on the Internet. Generally, the videos are extremely fluid. But my shots are not fluent. It's like there's a constant shaking, or staccato progress. What could this be due to?
I have had this camera for a while now and barely use it. But what keeps is relevant for me is it having Gen4 color science with raw. That is so much easier to work with and fun to grade.
Yet gen1 still has this special look to it.
Pros and cons to each I guess haha.
Thanks for your video! Could you tell me please what plate are you using in this video to attach the adapter for the external battery? Do you have any link to amazon?
Its an arca swiss plate, 150mm. Not sure on the exact brand and make but something like this: amzn.to/3rykvVb
@@carlscinema7086 thank you so much, your videos have helped me a lot, regards
Whats the bottom plate you use to mount the external battery and body?
It's an arca swiss plate. Don't use it anymore but here's a link: amzn.to/3iu09Jo
Thanks for the review. I'm considering one of these at slightly less than the cost of a (full frame) Sony A7. I'm looking to use it mainly in a multi-cam setting filming live footage in low lit studios and theatres. Perhaps not an obvious choice but could this be configured to match other cameras colour wise, while resolving details in the shadows without relying on a post production workflow?
It's really not made for a multicam workflow, the image is very unique - you'd have a hard time matching it to others or others to it (unless they're also Blackmagic Cinema Cameras). It rarely produces great results from just plonking it down to capture stuff, it needs a lot of attention when filming and in post.
@@deepcutfilm you are absolutely right!!! Unique look
I got the OG BMPCC with with monitor, viltrox, sigma 18-35, weebill s and follow focus
Awesome, sounds like a great setup!
Carl's Cinema a bit too heavy for run and gun type of shooting. Stab and monitor with external power are adding too much weight. It all started as a fan project but now I have some doubts that actually a73 or gh5 could do a better job as the have IS and don’t require so many different external stuff
I was wondering where I could repair my original pocket I live in Sydney
Hi very good night! First friend congratulations for helping to understand!
I have a question that I'm not able to understand on this camera could you help me ?!
: I do not know the best way to choose the degree °, which is the correct buddy?!: 180 °, or 360 ° ?! Which one did you use in your recording ?!
Thank you for your help!
Hi!
A 180° shutter is the most common shutter and is the shutter refered to when talking about the 180° shutter rule. It will give you the most natural looking motion blur and almost all movies stick to it unless they are going for a specific look with a different amount of motion blur. Using a photo camera and setting the shutter speed to 1/50 when shooting 25fps is the same as using a 180° shutter angle for example. Hope that helps
@@carlscinema7086
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Very good morning my friend! Thanks for the answer!
I could make a video on that topic! : Explaining camera angles, more showing the CONFIGURATION on the camera and types of light for each degree chosen on the camera for that specific scene! Using varying degrees for each light! My camera is showing a type of noise and does not have a cinematic look or with the best software! and a standard 14mm 2.8 lens! Thanks in advance for the answer!
It will be a pleasure to watch and even share!
Generally when shooting video or film you don't use the shutter for exposure at all, so the shutter would stay at 180° regardless of the light. And you would instead use aperture, ND-filters or the ISO/gain for exposure. Are you sure you're not underexposing your image? Less light generally means more noise.
I was gonna get the Sony a6400 for 500 but I can get this one for the same price. I don’t know which one is better.
They are two very different cameras so it really depends on your need and what you are going to use it for. But 500 for an a6400 sounds like a great price.
Carl, can you tell me how or why this video is in 4K, did you mix 4K and HD footage, or did you just export in 4K, and why?
I recorded at 1080p and upscaled to 4K before uploading to TH-cam to get more out of the TH-cam compression.
@@carlscinema7086 Thanks. I don't see a difference on my computer between HD and HD upscaled to 4K. But I haven't tried it on youtube yet, but will give it a try.
@@bobspez It's just a way of getting around the low bitrate on youtube. If someone watches in 4K they'll get a higher bitrate stream from TH-cam vs watching in 1080p.
Hey Carl, I've been trying to find good information on which gimbal or glider I can use with my original BMPCC. Any chance you know anything about this?
Does the bm micro cinema camera get the exact same image as this? Or am I missing something?
As far as I know they do have the same sensor, so the image should be more or less the same. The micro can go up to 60fps and also has a CinemaDNG raw 3:1 compression option.
Exactly the same...... literally but the micro needs a rig and the bmpcc needs a book to sit on flat ..... I use my pocket without any rig just for video and b roll .... The micro I use for my drone and I have it rigged up
Hello, what about the sound quality ? Thanks for your video
The pre-amps aren't that great, so if the audio is critical I would recommend recording it externally.
@@carlscinema7086 Thank you :)
what battery and plate do you use for it and how do you mount it?
The battery plate is a NPF plate with a 12v dc output which I mounted to an arca swiss base plate using a regular 1/4" screw. I currently have it mounted to a universal cage which I have attached to the bmpcc now.
Hi Carl or any fan here, may I know how to set this particular camera up for Zoom webinar? Thanks.
You would need a HDMI capture card to input the hdmi signal from the camera to your computer. And then make sure your hdmi is sending a clean signal in your camera settings
@@carlscinema7086 Thanks Carl, appreciate your prompt response. Any card you would recommend? Thanks
Haven't had any real experience with any so unfortunately no. But I'm sure there's plenty of videos on capture cards.
amigo!!! esta camara actualiza a bmraw??? y con una salida de monitor de 8.5v puedo encenderla??
English please?
Kingston "React" cards work like a charm. 20 bucks.
Awesome, thanks for the tip!
cheers!
Love mine too.
It's an awesome little camera 👍
Hey thanks for the video. I bought this camera. I have tried to shoot with this camera and get good pictures but for some reason it is stuck in black and white and not color. Any suggestions.
That sounds odd. Have you tried shooting in all "dynamic range" settings? Same result in film, extended video and video?
How big are the raw files? And they are 2.5k right, the raw files?
The camera has a 1920x1080p sensor so thats the resolution of the raw files. You might be thinking of the BMCC which has a 2.5k sensor. The files are roughly 2 MB per frame, so for 25p that would be 50MB per second (Megabytes, megabits would be 400Mb/s). So 1 minute will be roughly 3GB, giving you about 20 minutes on a 64gb card.
@@carlscinema7086 ok. Thx for the info. Preciate it
A great camera but it is surprising that there are no firmware hacks to upgrade its functions. I mean similar to Magic Lantern for Canon.
Has anyone experienced the flashing red exclamation point? My camera seems to be dropping frames within seconds using a sandisk ultra plus 80/mbs. Any advice?
Haven't experienced it myself. Are you recording RAW or Prores? The ultra isn't on the compatible list for RAW-recording.
Anyone knows where i can buy that camera? Thanks a lot
Links in the description :)
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Härligt att höra :)
Thanks, I learned a lot from this.
Glad i could help :)
respect for intro.
Thanks :)
a little monster, but i think this camera it's not optimized for Yoututbe, but for Vimeo. On Vimeo u can appreciate grain e colours
The youtube compression really isn't fair to the quality coming out of the cameras :/ I uploaded this one in 4K to get a atleast get a higher bitrate stream.
@@carlscinema7086 i know, i notice this huge difference between TH-cam and Vimeo, in the trailer of the movie "Cosmos" shot with only a single Bmpcc.
On Vimeo it's perfect.
Cosmos, i remember watching the trailer and some bts stuff for that a while back. Really shows what you can do with limited gear nowadays 👍
Does it have a B raw upgrade?
It doesn't, unfortunately. Only the most recent blackmagic cameras got braw.
Carl's Cinema what about uncompressed raw?
It records in CinemaDNG. It is compressed, but a lossless compression so you're not losing any quality.
Carl's Cinema cool just ordered one Glad it’s not the treacherous 12 bit uncompressed raw, pro res 4:2:2 seems to fit the needs of most 😅
Not 100% sure what you mean by the raw part, it is a 12-bit lossless compression (think of it more like how a zip-file works) so it's very close to uncompressed. For most cases ProRes should be just fine, but it can be pretty fun to explore the raw aswell.
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How does this compare to the 4k?
There are a few differences, the newer 4k version obviously has some more features, 4k recording, dual native iso and so on. But if you are purely talking about image quality some people actually prefer the original and say it has a more "organic" look to it.Matteo Bertoli has a nice video for side by side comparison: th-cam.com/video/uFMYVsKY3Es/w-d-xo.html
amazing!
Thanks!
Quality content
Appreciate it, thanks!
Great video! Thanks 🙏🏻
What's your power solution?
I have two different ways of powering the camera. The first is the Sony Npf battery plate shown in the video. The second is my most recent purchase which I only use in a rig, V-mount.
Check mine imgur.com/gallery/P29OTyX
@@carlscinema7086 Thanks!
Does it have BRAW?
It doesn't, unfortunately. Only the most recent blackmagic cameras got braw.
@@carlscinema7086 That's such a shame. I just bought the Canon 7D just for Magic Lantern to shoot RAW. They're so cheap now it seems silly not to give it a go and see what RAW is all about. I paid £200 for it. But if the original BMPCC had BRAW it would have been worth the extra as the file sizes and media would have been more manageable. Thanks for getting back to me. Appreciate it.
Why braw? It has regular dng raw, full sized raw files, loseless quality, and in full hd it's nothing scarry for your sd card or hard drive. Working with them is easy, if you add all at once to the premiere or resolve, it will create video clip automaticly.
@@michalsierzchula Just watched an old video and back then you couldn't delete files in camera or playback video you'd just recorded. Have these things been added now in firmware updates. What about playback in davinci resolve as well is it playable?
@@michalsierzchula of course !
Genuine review..tnq
Thanks
To this day this camera still holds up like a champ! I have both the original and the bmpcc 4k. I also have the Micro Cinema Camera which is just awesome. I actually made a video to see how they compare against each other. The micro, original bmpcc, bmpcc 4k, lumix gx85 and ursa mini 4k. Check it out! th-cam.com/video/HybIF0BfJY0/w-d-xo.html
Nice test, the micro and original bmpcc really holds up well!
@@carlscinema7086 thanks for checcking it out! i also made a very quick A/B test, with just the original bmpcc superscaled and the bmpcc 4k and to me the orihinal actually looks better. Its the second to last video on my channel.
Is there anyone who uses this camera with a JuicedLink BMC388?
Cool!
Thanks!
Use mine all da time 👌
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