Omg thats so nice to read. I was one moment before buying the 5600x but then i went with the 5800x3d in the last minute and currently waiting for it. Good to know that was the right decision. :D
I am so glad you posted this lol, I've been debating over this one as I have the 5600x right now. It's paired with Sapphire 6950Xt and man is it a pain sometimes, this sold me on getting it 👍
@@Thyder VDDCR CPU Voltage. Set offset mode to negative and enter a value of 0.05. Set the FCLK Frequency to 1800mhz. Disable clock spread spectrum. And enable Soc/ Uncore OC mode. Disable any 'performance bias' mode your motherboard may have. You should be stable with these settings, and see slightly higher clock speeds with a nice double digit temperature reduction. This is how I'm running mine currently.
FCLK should ideally be set to half of your RAM speed but of course if you have a 3600MHz kit then it's perfect. I also prefer setting an undervolt with the curve editor for each core to get the highest boost out of it.@@VelociRapT0M
@@Remu- indeed, and 'CPPC preferred cores' should be disabled with this chip too. I think this has been the most beneficial change for me, all stutters completely eliminated.
Hey would you say it’s worth the upgrade from my Ryzen 5 3600x? I currently have a 3060 ti and in cpu intensive games I seem to struggle . (Especially older games utilizing single threading power)
nice, i seen that sale but i was looking for the 5600x3d and it just went on sale yesterday for $159 so i ran and grabbed it, unfortunately it was a one day sale but glad i got it and now i gotta put it in.
I've got the ryzen 5 2600 and I feel like it's been a trooper over the years. Starting to think it's getting close to retirement, though. I might just grab one of these to unlock the full potential of my 3070
Bro this card if for those who been sitting on something older I have a ryzen 5 3600 (5 years old) switching over to this 5800x3d will keep my platform fresh for many more years plus I plan on switching my graphics for a 4070 to super coming from a 2060 super( 5 years old) I could go new but I got the pc headroom in my build to upgrade why spend so much more more when you can do this and honestly get another few years out of AM4
Ignore the people saying it's a dead platform. Buying the 5800X3D will last you so many years. Even if i didnt have a AMD platform, I would still buy this one. I bought it for $331 dollars in europe
5800x3d ryzen 7 gen 4 still kills the series x the fps gain for ddr is like 20fps improve for £2000k build Is 20fps worth the extra £200 spent on for ddr5 gen 5 system and its a pcie 4.0 system so you have gen5 to upgrade when it gets cheaper amd so on no point upgrading until pcie 5.0 comes out while they are still making pcie 4.0 gpus stick to gen 4 for as long as possible then upgrade to gen 5 and faster nvme 7300 nvmes are still fast enough gen 4 All the performance even with 4600hz maxed ram 32gb 4th gen 5800x3d cheap motherboard if all your doing is gaming Total cost is £1800 vs £2000 for 5th gen hardware is 5th gen really worth upgrading to when that same gen 5 could be had for the same price when gen 6 comes out and gen 7 and 8 Untill pcie 5.0 graphics cards come out
With pcie 5.0 coming out gen 5 is like slap in a face don't buy it don't waste money on it get a 4090 and be happy with it because when pcie 5 comes along you will have to upgrade again Spend less on a gaming pc now because the gpus after 4.0 will mean you will need to upgrade but a 4090 will still slap the ahit out of the series x for a long time lol
Good pick up. I seen that deal ... Deal never came back but the lowest I seen since was $302 on prime. Pulled the trigger if you are on the Am4 platform just makes sense. Replaced the 3800x. Should be no bottlenecks with 3080ti now. Hold me down for the next Amd cpus.
Got mine on Amazon for $206 using points and a gift card from work! 5800X3D for $206!! They offered the option to overnight it for free so why not? Was on my doorstep this morning. stoked
Yeah but it wasn’t $206. Those points and gift cards were of a dollar value that you could have spent on anything. So whatever you paid before points and gc is what you paid for it.
@@roguetune03 just saying whatever the sale price and tax was before you used various forms of payment is what it cost you. If I had $263 gift card that i used I couldn’t claim I got my 5800x3D for free. 🤓
@Toasty_Fluff i completely disagree. You didn’t get it for free. Someone gave you $263 in gift cards and you used that GC to buy a $263 item the item still cost you $263. It’s just stupid logic to boast about getting a good price on something when it’s nothing more than using multiple forms of payment. People lie to themselves all the time in life to justify something.
I did not need to upgrade from a 3900X to a 5800X3D but the gains I got in certain games definitely made it worth it. Plus I'm selling the 3900X to a friend to get back some of that money so, in the end, completely worth it.
Sold my 5950x for the 5800x3d, games either perform the same or 30% better still so was worth it as I have another system for professional workloads that actually need cores
I also have a 1700x in my build and I'm planning on upgrading it to a 5800x (not 3d because it is better only in gaming and I don't play that much, I have a 1660 lol). How better is your PC after the upgrade? Thank you!
@@pierobonisoli9067 night and day difference. In Star Citizen I went from 17-30FPS in a city to 40-70. SC is weird though, sometimes I get a lot more. The biggest change is I can actually play BF2042 now. Buttery smooth no lag. Wasn't able to play it on my 1700x
Just picked one up here in the UK 2-3 weeks ago for just £205. Limited stock from a company I normally buy my parts from. Open box with no cooler but with full warranty. As I was upgrading from a 2600, it was a no-brainer. The cheapest this company had sealed units previously was £270 on special offer. They normally sell them at £320.
If you’re anywhere close to a microcenter they may have a bundle that has the 7800x3d with 32 gigs of ram and a motherboard for like $450. Unfortunately an in store only deal.
i got one a month or so ago for 300, but it came with a b550+ motherboard, and 16gb DDR4 3200mhz. i was on a i7 4790s, and a 1080ti, still using the 1080ti tho. A gpu upgrade is next on the list
I actually upgraded from the 5600x to the 5800x3d with a 4080 and 32gb@3600mhz and im seeing such insane performance boosts across all games, its insane. I feel dumb not having bough the 5800x3d sooner lol
The AM5 platform is such a joke right now too, tiny upgrades to the motherboard, yet they have the audacity to say they need to sell their motherboard for an arm and a leg for the basic B650 mobo, it's insane considering the price i paid for an X570 back a few years ago would just give me a B650 mobo today, and that's sale price, that's not including our 7800x3d I'd want, or the ddr5 ram which will bring this over $1,000 CAD just to upgrade and ship
How do you like that combo? I have the Ryzen 7 5800x3D for my first build, trying to decide if the 3060 12gb is what I should get. It’s at such a good price right now. Newegg is 249 currently!
@ARL_geo114 only people that think spending 300 on a graphics card that's capable vs spending 1200 on somthing that I'm never going to use the full power of thats the definition of wasting money
Upgraded from the 3600 to 5800x3d. UK.The difference is night and day. Was £260 here in the UK. It's given my 2070S a new leace of life lol. I'm still gonna upgrade to 4080 though.
@@thrind personal experience.. I had a 5600x (paired with a 3070) in Warzone at 1440p I got anywhere between 90-120/130ish FPS, around 100 on average most of the time. With the 5800x3d, 120 is the minimum FPS I got in Warzone, 120-145fps and beyond. It's a monster... Since then I've paired it with a 3080 and get even more FPS than that (capped at 160, unsure what maximum it's been hitting to be honest) but yeah dude, the 5800x3d is a beast.
of course u made the right choice lol. Why would someone think its not when you would have probably have had to spend like 900 for all the new components
Nope wrong. If you shop for good deals you can easily jump from AM4 to AM5 for $100 or less. Currently today I have three B650 Aorus Elite AX boards arriving that I paid $80 plus tax each for. I will sell my three x570s boards for at least $100. Sell off my 5700x/5800x and 32gb of basic 3200mhz ram. Buy a new $175 7600x and 32gb of upper shelf DDR5 for $80-100 and I’m sitting at about $100-120 upgrade cost for the first one. The next two systems I will wait for 9000 to release and the used market to have a bunch of 7600-7700x for about $150. I’m only upgrading these perfectly good AM4 systems because how low my AM5 prices are and how much I can get rid of AM4 for. My last two upgrades will be about $50 each for my AM4 x570s/5800x to b650/7600x. Small upgrade by some measures but still on new socket with much better single core performance. If it was $900 to upgrade or even $200 to upgrade I would have stayed with AM4 as well. But if you know how to find deals and sell off older hardware than you spend very very little. The key is to buy low , sell high and don’t let your current hardware age too much. Which is why I am selling 5800x/x570s while there is still a great market for them.
Question. I have a 5800x, paired with a 3090ti and currently only 32gb RAM and get about 23% bottleneck. Just bought a Ryzen 5950x and another set of 32gb ddr4 RAM. According to my research this should, I hope help with the bottleneck issue.
If you primarily game the 5800x3d is about 30-40% more powerful than the 5950 due to its increased cache Edit: To add context it is a weaker cpu for professional tasks (less cores) but for gaming you don't need that really so you either end up with identical performance or if the game likes the cache you have a massive boost
Still plenty of years left on this cpu pc will always be ahead of consoles no matter if you buy a 4k gaming pc your wasting your money chasing every last drop of fps but if a £1800 pc is still capable for many years it might be 4th gen since the 5th generation will cost even more than 4th gen I say its probably a good idea to upgrade when 4th generation dies which it will in another 6 years still plenty of mileage and plenty of gpus to come to pcie 4.0 pcie 5.0 is still many years away
I made the mistake of buying the 5700x too instead of the 5800x3D. I don’t know what I was thinking, but I am sure it was due to price to performance at the time. Then AMD just dropped the 5700x3D this year. 😂 I have the 5800x3D in my cart as I type this. Just can’t decide if the 20 frames are worth it. Tarkov is my main game and it’s not the best optimized game so there is that too.
@@wrusst I have checked some recent benchmark and @4k it doesn't make any sense upgrading especially from a normal 5800x as I have. I'll wait AM6, by then it should offer a huge upgrade
@@user-jd3pk1bz8e just get a nice card like the 7800xt even at 4k it's a deal at 500 and turn on Sam in bios . This would be still the bottle neck or a card with 30-40% or more power than you already have would be the best advice .
@@Uferizer I would look at some videos comparing the 7800x3d with different memory configurations. From what I've seen, very little different if any at all
Still can’t make my mind up 5600x or 5800x3d with 3090, I love my 5600x but that 5800x3d tho. I play sim and single player open world games and the 5600x does fine.
Ok new viewers this video is a year old. July 2024 next to no one should buy a 5800x3D at current pricing. 5700x3D is certainly a better value for those that insist on sticking to AM4. The best value is the 7500F at $120-135 as it performs on average as well as the 5800x3D. But you have to risk aliexpress which I won’t do. 7600/7600x at $175 is still better than sticking with AM4. If you know how to swap out hardware then sell off your old AM4 while there is still a good market. Find a budget b650 board , $80 kit of DDR5 32gb and a $175 7600x which is on average faster than the 5800x3D. Many of my AM4 to AM5 swaps were next to no out of pocket.
I'd say the cost to performance ratio is still great compared to AM5. If youre already on AM4 and want to wait a few more years before upgrading everything, that cpu is a beast.
@@voidxveejay8201 5800x3d currently costs 320 USD the 5900x costs 260-280 USD. In the majority of titles the 5800x3d and 5900x have near identical performance with the 5900x having better frame times and lows. In the few games that benefit heavily from the added 3d vcache the 5800x3d pulls way ahead until you turn on SAM (smart access memory) on the 5900x in which case it catches right back up as it was before. 5900x also destroys it on everything outside gaming
Do not get a 5800x3d your 5900x is cheaper, faster, and cooler than it. Also do not get a 7800x3d either the 7700 is the most you should go with but id say a 7600 is more worth the price. After the 7600 gaming preformance difference is negligible unless you need the productivity dont pay the markup
@@mrswagtastic3276 Not really I explained that. After the 7600 gaming preformance doesnt change much with the am5 cpus but their productivity preformance increases alot
I say do it !! You get alot more fps as the 5800x3d pumps out alot more fps avg and lows. I Got it with a 7900xtx. And for 1440p i offers Max gpu usage and Max fps for all my games!
@@silfrido1768 5800x3d. As ram dont really get an impact on the x3d as it Got so much v-cache. Its going to give you full performance even though your on 2666 or 3800c14 ram !!
Absolutely do NOT. Do not listen to noraskov he does not know what hes talking about. If you want to upgrade to another am4 cpu get the 5900x it is cheaper, faster, and cooler than the 5800x3d
@@beemrmem3You do not know what you are talking about. The 5800x3d has a 10-15% preformance uplift over the base 5800x and costs 320 instead of 230. The 5900x costs 288 and preforms the same in games as the 5800x3d and is something of 30% faster in productive tasks
@@dannn6703 Only in a few games. That boost can be completely negated by enabling SAM which uses spare gpu vram and uses it as vcache for the cpu. In titles that benefit from it like cyberpunk will get a 20-30% performance boost
No, just no if we are talking gaming. For professional workloads that need cores the x3d chips are stupid though (lower clocks to make headroom for cache) and they cost more per core. But if gaming the 5800x3d beats out any of the current AM5 cpus that don't have the 3dv cache still without breaking a sweat
Ngl it depends on your region cause up here in Canada it does not cost $400 CAD (including tax) to get a 7600X + a new mobo + ram as of right now. For reference I got the 5800X3D for $400 CAD (including a 13% tax)
yes, even for gaming 5900x are not good so i will rather go with AM5 mobo such as some a 620-b650 cheaper ones because of upgrade on zen5,6 @@kingiument4627
@@Mr11ESSE111 Eh the 5900x is a good deal if you already have a built am4 motherboard but if youre going to build a whole new rig then 7600 am5 is better to do
I'm still rocking an 1800x at 4.1ghz since day 1 barely hits 45c if ever. I upgraded to a 3800x when they came out and my performance increase was not even noticeable but temps were about 20-25c higher so I sent the 3800x back. I'm trying to figure out if the 5800x3d is finally worth the upgrade. My Crosshair Hero VI is still a solid mobo and I've already got 64gb of ram I don't really wanna have to get a new mobo and ram just for a new CPU. Thoughts?
I switched from a Ryzen 5 3600 to this cpu today. Ik it’s sad, but I downloaded Fortnite (just to see my frames). I went from a solid 80-90 frames to 200-400 frames
@@f_g7304 interesting. I think ill go for it. Was deciding on just a cpu upgrade or a full new build. But 5 year PC life expectancy is 15 years ago. They can last so much longer today
With that much money on a mobo, yeah get the best possible cpu for it. 5800x3d or a 5900x if you need the extra cores. That would last you 4-5 years and make your mobo worth every penny.
Waste of money. The 5900x is 60 bucks less and the same preformance and the 7600 is 110 less for 10% more preformance. If youre doing a fresh build go AM5 with the 7600
Yes, 5800X3D is amazing if you are already on AM4. But with the leaks coming out about the next Zen series IPC improvements, no way would I choose to build a new system on AM4 now, regardless of this price.
Air coolers should probably also not have an issue with that cpu. Switched to a cheap off-brand water cooler and it also runs at 55-65°c while gaming.@@adahepper2665
@@kingiument4627 No, not even remotely correct. Generally speaking, a high end air cooler will perform on par with a 240mm AIO cooler. 360-420mm outperform air coolers with ease.
@@adahepper2665Why are you saying im not even remotely correct when you are referring to something so niche thay very few people can use? Those are massive non standard liquid coolers that dont fit in most cases. Air coolers preform on par with 280mm and some 360mm liquid coolers. If youre going to call people wrong atleast know what youre talking about?
Ive had the 5800x3d for about a year now and have it paired with a 3080. the difference is night and day over the 5600x i use to have.
Heck yeah! I’ll be joining this with a 4070ti so I’m very excited to see the performance
Omg thats so nice to read. I was one moment before buying the 5600x but then i went with the 5800x3d in the last minute and currently waiting for it. Good to know that was the right decision. :D
That's exactly my scenario. Glad I made the right decision with this CPU instead of 5950x
@@YuniorGamboayep, should be better than the 5950x for gaming
I am so glad you posted this lol, I've been debating over this one as I have the 5600x right now. It's paired with Sapphire 6950Xt and man is it a pain sometimes, this sold me on getting it 👍
Just got one, undervolt CPU voltage by 0.05 in bios to reduce temps by roughly 10 Celsius at zero performance cost. It's a beast.
What's the BIOS option and the offset value for the CPU voltage?
@@Thyder VDDCR CPU Voltage. Set offset mode to negative and enter a value of 0.05. Set the FCLK Frequency to 1800mhz. Disable clock spread spectrum. And enable Soc/ Uncore OC mode. Disable any 'performance bias' mode your motherboard may have. You should be stable with these settings, and see slightly higher clock speeds with a nice double digit temperature reduction. This is how I'm running mine currently.
FCLK should ideally be set to half of your RAM speed but of course if you have a 3600MHz kit then it's perfect. I also prefer setting an undervolt with the curve editor for each core to get the highest boost out of it.@@VelociRapT0M
@@Remu- indeed, and 'CPPC preferred cores' should be disabled with this chip too. I think this has been the most beneficial change for me, all stutters completely eliminated.
These amd cpus can run comfortably at 75c. But yeah if you dont have. Beefy cooler than undervaluing works good.
Bought it 3 weeks ago when the price dropped! Such a great difference from my old Ryzen 5 3400g
Oh yeah that’s a huge difference!
Hey would you say it’s worth the upgrade from my Ryzen 5 3600x? I currently have a 3060 ti and in cpu intensive games I seem to struggle . (Especially older games utilizing single threading power)
@@cristian3710 Yes I do recommend it fully. My motherboard doesn't even fully support the 5800x3D and it still preforms better than my expectations.
@@pcmanraulwich motherboard do you have?
@@Jubafree MSI A320M-A PRO MAX
Receive my 5800 x 3D Christmas 2 years ago I have a 3070 still runs great
I just got the 5800x3d at Micro Center today for $259.99
😮
nice, i seen that sale but i was looking for the 5600x3d and it just went on sale yesterday for $159 so i ran and grabbed it, unfortunately it was a one day sale but glad i got it and now i gotta put it in.
A wasted $260
@@tilapiadave3234 My comment was 9 months ago, it was a great deal then.
Imo it should be $200 for it to be worth it
I've got the ryzen 5 2600 and I feel like it's been a trooper over the years. Starting to think it's getting close to retirement, though. I might just grab one of these to unlock the full potential of my 3070
I would 100% yes. I've had a 2600x until last July and upgraded to a 5800x3d. The 1% lows greatly improved and is the best upgrade I made for my pc.
What is so great about the 5800x3d, is you can have current generation CPU performance on AM4
No you cannot. 5800X3D is the most OVER rated cpu of all history. CURRENT generation 7800X3D is a very nice cpu
@@tilapiadave3234it deserves every ounce of hype it gets.
@tilapiadave3234 "AM4"
@@tilapiadave3234 5800x3D is the best CPU on AM4 wdym it overrated 😂
Bro this card if for those who been sitting on something older I have a ryzen 5 3600 (5 years old) switching over to this 5800x3d will keep my platform fresh for many more years plus I plan on switching my graphics for a 4070 to super coming from a 2060 super( 5 years old) I could go new but I got the pc headroom in my build to upgrade why spend so much more more when you can do this and honestly get another few years out of AM4
Ignore the people saying it's a dead platform. Buying the 5800X3D will last you so many years. Even if i didnt have a AMD platform, I would still buy this one. I bought it for $331 dollars in europe
I bought it for €266 with shipping 30 minutes ago
@@SimonePavano from which website?
@@Ladioz it's called PSK Mega Store, I think it's only in Italy although I'm not entirely sure, but you can search it up if you want
5800x3d ryzen 7 gen 4 still kills the series x the fps gain for ddr is like 20fps improve for £2000k build
Is 20fps worth the extra £200 spent on for ddr5 gen 5 system and its a pcie 4.0 system so you have gen5 to upgrade when it gets cheaper amd so on no point upgrading until pcie 5.0 comes out while they are still making pcie 4.0 gpus stick to gen 4 for as long as possible then upgrade to gen 5 and faster nvme 7300 nvmes are still fast enough gen 4
All the performance even with 4600hz maxed ram 32gb 4th gen 5800x3d cheap motherboard if all your doing is gaming
Total cost is £1800 vs £2000 for 5th gen hardware is 5th gen really worth upgrading to when that same gen 5 could be had for the same price when gen 6 comes out and gen 7 and 8
Untill pcie 5.0 graphics cards come out
With pcie 5.0 coming out gen 5 is like slap in a face don't buy it don't waste money on it get a 4090 and be happy with it because when pcie 5 comes along you will have to upgrade again
Spend less on a gaming pc now because the gpus after 4.0 will mean you will need to upgrade but a 4090 will still slap the ahit out of the series x for a long time lol
Just picked one up on amazon for $238. Final form of my AM4/DDR4 build has begun.
i wish they had this type of prices where i live, the 5800x3d lowest price i can find is around $400
$489 here in Norway
The 5800x3d isnt worth it look at the price of the 5900x in your area
@@Idonnoman wtf 490$ for this LOOOOL it's fucking 320$ in serbia
@@kingiument4627the 5800x3d is better for gaming a lot than the 5900x
its 278 Euros on Mindfactory in Germany. Already ordered mine and i also have RX7900XT
Dude I got it at micro-center that came in a bundle with a motherboard and ram, such a steal for only 350
thats awesome!
Good pick up. I seen that deal ... Deal never came back but the lowest I seen since was $302 on prime. Pulled the trigger if you are on the Am4 platform just makes sense. Replaced the 3800x.
Should be no bottlenecks with 3080ti now. Hold me down for the next Amd cpus.
I have mine paired with a 7900xt. Mind blowing performance
CPU bottlenecking that 7900xt? I see a lot of forums stating it does
@@jacobshank9362 not that I’ve noticed. Hardly have any cpu usage
@@jacobshank9362maybe at 1080p not at higher resolution
I've been thinking about buying a Rx 7900 XT. Your comment got me thinking more about it.
@@oneyawdie6139 still runs great. Very smooth
Got mine on Amazon for $206 using points and a gift card from work! 5800X3D for $206!! They offered the option to overnight it for free so why not? Was on my doorstep this morning. stoked
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Yeah but it wasn’t $206. Those points and gift cards were of a dollar value that you could have spent on anything. So whatever you paid before points and gc is what you paid for it.
@@45eno Nope. thx for posting though.
@@roguetune03 just saying whatever the sale price and tax was before you used various forms of payment is what it cost you. If I had $263 gift card that i used I couldn’t claim I got my 5800x3D for free. 🤓
@Toasty_Fluff i completely disagree. You didn’t get it for free. Someone gave you $263 in gift cards and you used that GC to buy a $263 item the item still cost you $263. It’s just stupid logic to boast about getting a good price on something when it’s nothing more than using multiple forms of payment. People lie to themselves all the time in life to justify something.
Getting mine in a few weeks, £259 in the UK WOW!
That’s pretty cheap
I did not need to upgrade from a 3900X to a 5800X3D but the gains I got in certain games definitely made it worth it. Plus I'm selling the 3900X to a friend to get back some of that money so, in the end, completely worth it.
Sold my 5950x for the 5800x3d, games either perform the same or 30% better still so was worth it as I have another system for professional workloads that actually need cores
The 5800x3d is still one of the best gaming cpus
Eh kinda old tho and their is much better ones I wouldn’t say the best more like mid tier
@@michaelhernandez1799😂😂😂 you have to be joking
@@trephix dude really doesnt know what hes talking about xD
No its not the 5900x and 7600 are both priced lower than the 5800x3d, outpreform it, and run cooler than it
@kingiument4627 that's not true the 5800x3d has better performance
I just got a 5800x (not 3d) for $200. Replaced my 1700x from 2017 and I'm thrilled
I also have a 1700x in my build and I'm planning on upgrading it to a 5800x (not 3d because it is better only in gaming and I don't play that much, I have a 1660 lol). How better is your PC after the upgrade? Thank you!
Yeah I wish youtubers would stop promoting it and brainwashing ppl to believe its better. The 5800x and 5900x are way better deals
@@pierobonisoli9067 night and day difference. In Star Citizen I went from 17-30FPS in a city to 40-70.
SC is weird though, sometimes I get a lot more.
The biggest change is I can actually play BF2042 now. Buttery smooth no lag. Wasn't able to play it on my 1700x
Just picked one up here in the UK 2-3 weeks ago for just £205. Limited stock from a company I normally buy my parts from. Open box with no cooler but with full warranty. As I was upgrading from a 2600, it was a no-brainer. The cheapest this company had sealed units previously was £270 on special offer. They normally sell them at £320.
Which company was it
@@xxsilverxx1063 Scan
If you’re anywhere close to a microcenter they may have a bundle that has the 7800x3d with 32 gigs of ram and a motherboard for like $450. Unfortunately an in store only deal.
"a motherboard" wow!
coming from a 2600x, i decided to just get the best for my platform due to costs. The difference in performence is unreal
i got one a month or so ago for 300, but it came with a b550+ motherboard, and 16gb DDR4 3200mhz. i was on a i7 4790s, and a 1080ti, still using the 1080ti tho. A gpu upgrade is next on the list
replaced my good old 3600 with the 5800x3d yesterday. got one for 140 bucks.
Yep even those coming from the 57/8/90X cpu should definitely get the 5800X3D if you can afford it but not the new platform upgrade.
Have had mine paired with an rtx 4080/32gb@3600mhz. So buttery!
I actually upgraded from the 5600x to the 5800x3d with a 4080 and 32gb@3600mhz and im seeing such insane performance boosts across all games, its insane.
I feel dumb not having bough the 5800x3d sooner lol
i have, for star citizen, it's amazing cpu!
The AM5 platform is such a joke right now too, tiny upgrades to the motherboard, yet they have the audacity to say they need to sell their motherboard for an arm and a leg for the basic B650 mobo, it's insane considering the price i paid for an X570 back a few years ago would just give me a B650 mobo today, and that's sale price, that's not including our 7800x3d I'd want, or the ddr5 ram which will bring this over $1,000 CAD just to upgrade and ship
Me with 5600x + 3060 switch to 5800x3d just to play Tarkov for a year now ~ night & day difference
How do you like your 3060 with the 7 5800x3D? I have the same cpu for the pc I’m building. Trying to decide if that’s the gpu I want 😬🤷🏻♂️
@@ARL_geo114 tarkov so bias with Nvidia 3080 & up maybe
@@ARL_geo114 i pair my 5800x3d with nzxt aio & temps mostly stays 64-67 while gaming
Went from a ryzen 5 2400g to a ryzen 7 5800x3d today felt so good since I upgraded my gpu to a rtx 3060 12gb recently can't complain tbh
How do you like that combo? I have the Ryzen 7 5800x3D for my first build, trying to decide if the 3060 12gb is what I should get. It’s at such a good price right now. Newegg is 249 currently!
And you fell for the scam. RIP
@@ARL_geo114Absolutely not you spent that much on your cpu you have to get a 4070 or 7800xt or youre wasting a ton of money😊
@ARL_geo114 only people that think spending 300 on a graphics card that's capable vs spending 1200 on somthing that I'm never going to use the full power of thats the definition of wasting money
I will wait until Black Friday. Should be even cheaper then.
Sure would be great if anyone bothered to put dates on these shorts...
Just picked up a b550 plus, a 5800x3d, and 16 gb ddr4 3200mhz for 300 bucks
The 5800x3d was a huge step up on my 5500.
Upgraded from the 3600 to 5800x3d. UK.The difference is night and day. Was £260 here in the UK. It's given my 2070S a new leace of life lol. I'm still gonna upgrade to 4080 though.
Are you gaming in 1440p? Asking because I have the same specs (3600 + 2070 Super), I'm still not convinced 😂
@@thrind personal experience.. I had a 5600x (paired with a 3070) in Warzone at 1440p I got anywhere between 90-120/130ish FPS, around 100 on average most of the time. With the 5800x3d, 120 is the minimum FPS I got in Warzone, 120-145fps and beyond. It's a monster... Since then I've paired it with a 3080 and get even more FPS than that (capped at 160, unsure what maximum it's been hitting to be honest) but yeah dude, the 5800x3d is a beast.
i love ur pc wallpaper man could u tell me where u get that or share it to me pls bud
I upgraded to the 5800x from the 5600 when the 5800x was on sale for $180. I regret not getting the X3D...
Oof that one probably hurt, I imagine the gains were near non-existent since games rarely make use of the 2 extra cores like we'd expect
@@hiRyan329329 wasn’t too bad. I sold my old cpu and only ended up spending $100 net. Lesson learned.
I got a good sealer from a seller for 7800x 3d. 300us really happy with it:D
That’s insane! What a steal
Thats not a steal they cost 320 new. The 5900x costs 60 bucks less and is better than it
Getting ryzen 9 5900x for £60 using couple discount such good deal
of course u made the right choice lol. Why would someone think its not when you would have probably have had to spend like 900 for all the new components
Nope wrong. If you shop for good deals you can easily jump from AM4 to AM5 for $100 or less.
Currently today I have three B650 Aorus Elite AX boards arriving that I paid $80 plus tax each for. I will sell my three x570s boards for at least $100. Sell off my 5700x/5800x and 32gb of basic 3200mhz ram. Buy a new $175 7600x and 32gb of upper shelf DDR5 for $80-100 and I’m sitting at about $100-120 upgrade cost for the first one.
The next two systems I will wait for 9000 to release and the used market to have a bunch of 7600-7700x for about $150.
I’m only upgrading these perfectly good AM4 systems because how low my AM5 prices are and how much I can get rid of AM4 for.
My last two upgrades will be about $50 each for my AM4 x570s/5800x to b650/7600x. Small upgrade by some measures but still on new socket with much better single core performance.
If it was $900 to upgrade or even $200 to upgrade I would have stayed with AM4 as well. But if you know how to find deals and sell off older hardware than you spend very very little. The key is to buy low , sell high and don’t let your current hardware age too much. Which is why I am selling 5800x/x570s while there is still a great market for them.
Well I think: Decent CPU, decent rig, decent music 👍
For someone not already on AM4, they're probably best off getting a Ryzen 7600 instead I thinkkkk
I bought the am4 platform
@@tazboy1934 It's still an awesome platform and cost effective, I don't think it's a bad idea
Just got this at Microcenter today for that price too
An excellent grab, I myself went balls to the walls for my setup °_°
MotherBoard:
MSi B650 Tomahawk WiFi $319.99
CPU:
Ryzen 9 7900x 12C/24T $629.99
GPU:
MSi Radeon RX 7900 XT 20G $1299.99
RAM:
CORSAIR V' 2x16GBs 6000MHz $299.99
Hi Hank was a bottleneck with the 5800X3D + 7900XT I have a 5600X + 1070 and I want to upgrade to a 7900 XT. Will I face a bottleneck?
Why would you need to buy new ram? Does your intel platform use DDR4?
292 usd with delivery, forbidden north country
Question.
I have a 5800x, paired with a 3090ti and currently only 32gb RAM and get about 23% bottleneck. Just bought a Ryzen 5950x and another set of 32gb ddr4 RAM. According to my research this should, I hope help with the bottleneck issue.
If you primarily game the 5800x3d is about 30-40% more powerful than the 5950 due to its increased cache
Edit: To add context it is a weaker cpu for professional tasks (less cores) but for gaming you don't need that really so you either end up with identical performance or if the game likes the cache you have a massive boost
Hey what kind of rgb cables are those
Still plenty of years left on this cpu pc will always be ahead of consoles no matter if you buy a 4k gaming pc your wasting your money chasing every last drop of fps but if a £1800 pc is still capable for many years it might be 4th gen since the 5th generation will cost even more than 4th gen I say its probably a good idea to upgrade when 4th generation dies which it will in another 6 years still plenty of mileage and plenty of gpus to come to pcie 4.0 pcie 5.0 is still many years away
Literally the best AM4 gaming CPU out there
Man they getting long winded on the names of these chips aren't they 5800X3D Sheesh I'm still rocking a 1700x
Hey what would you recommand pairing with the R7 5800X3D ?
I'm looking for a good gpu like to play 2k ultra 4070 ti ? 4080 ? idk
Rx 6950xt
@@joshmclakakwhy rx? It’s not that power efficient and fans are louder…
Either the base 4070 or the 4070 super when it launches
This costs $515 here
Is it worth to upgrade from 5700X or buy an am5 platform?
Same question
Honestly, you get a better deal going to am5 platform like the 7600x
I made the mistake of buying the 5700x too instead of the 5800x3D. I don’t know what I was thinking, but I am sure it was due to price to performance at the time. Then AMD just dropped the 5700x3D this year. 😂 I have the 5800x3D in my cart as I type this. Just can’t decide if the 20 frames are worth it. Tarkov is my main game and it’s not the best optimized game so there is that too.
@@Sluggaboy27 get what fits your budget
I am going build a mid-high-end PC with Ryzen 7800X3D + RX 7900 GRE at late 2024.
Just bought one myself. Though i already had the 5800x, I hope i can squeeze more fps out of the new one at 4k.
Worth it?
4k is almost always a GPU issue even with a 4080/4090
@@wrusst I have checked some recent benchmark and @4k it doesn't make any sense upgrading especially from a normal 5800x as I have. I'll wait AM6, by then it should offer a huge upgrade
@@user-jd3pk1bz8e just get a nice card like the 7800xt even at 4k it's a deal at 500 and turn on Sam in bios . This would be still the bottle neck or a card with 30-40% or more power than you already have would be the best advice .
@@user-jd3pk1bz8e Yea i gained 20fps in Battlefield 2042.
7800x3d bundle at microcenter for 500. Kinda hard to beat
this is what i'd upgrade to for sure
Comes with some meh memory. Is it still worth?
@@Uferizer I would look at some videos comparing the 7800x3d with different memory configurations. From what I've seen, very little different if any at all
So good they are about to anounce ( speculative) a 5600x3d
I’m very curious to see how the two compare! Both price and performance wise
Still can’t make my mind up 5600x or 5800x3d with 3090, I love my 5600x but that 5800x3d tho. I play sim and single player open world games and the 5600x does fine.
Well with sim games the 5800X3D would give a nice boost. But the 5800X3D is already going up in price.
The 5900x is cheaper and faster than the 5800x3d. Your current cpu doesnt really bottleneck you gpu that much though so I wouldnt really upgrade
Ok new viewers this video is a year old. July 2024 next to no one should buy a 5800x3D at current pricing. 5700x3D is certainly a better value for those that insist on sticking to AM4.
The best value is the 7500F at $120-135 as it performs on average as well as the 5800x3D. But you have to risk aliexpress which I won’t do.
7600/7600x at $175 is still better than sticking with AM4.
If you know how to swap out hardware then sell off your old AM4 while there is still a good market. Find a budget b650 board , $80 kit of DDR5 32gb and a $175 7600x which is on average faster than the 5800x3D.
Many of my AM4 to AM5 swaps were next to no out of pocket.
The problem with this is that the platform is dead. You can’t go any higher than this
Not really, this CPU will hold for the next 4 years or so without problems.
I'd say the cost to performance ratio is still great compared to AM5. If youre already on AM4 and want to wait a few more years before upgrading everything, that cpu is a beast.
The 5900x is cheaper than the 5800x3d and outpreforms it
@kingiument4627 nope this outperforms the 5900x and it isnt even close especially in games like cod
@@voidxveejay8201 5800x3d currently costs 320 USD the 5900x costs 260-280 USD. In the majority of titles the 5800x3d and 5900x have near identical performance with the 5900x having better frame times and lows. In the few games that benefit heavily from the added 3d vcache the 5800x3d pulls way ahead until you turn on SAM (smart access memory) on the 5900x in which case it catches right back up as it was before. 5900x also destroys it on everything outside gaming
Like A Russian They Don't Re-event The Wheel. They Just Hot Rod It
Im loving mine
currently have a 5600g with 6600xt debating if i should go with 5800x3d for 279 or 5900x for 200 ( used )
forsure the 5800x3d.
I have a 5900x and I’m torn between grabbing the 5800x3d or just jumping for the 7800x3d pairing either with a 4080
Do not get a 5800x3d your 5900x is cheaper, faster, and cooler than it. Also do not get a 7800x3d either the 7700 is the most you should go with but id say a 7600 is more worth the price. After the 7600 gaming preformance difference is negligible unless you need the productivity dont pay the markup
@@kingiument4627 why no 7800x3d? Isn’t it the best for gaming?
@@mrswagtastic3276 Not really I explained that. After the 7600 gaming preformance doesnt change much with the am5 cpus but their productivity preformance increases alot
Just upgraded from a 5600x. I had a couple of Amazon gift cards from my b-day and xmas. So I got a 5800x3d for 120 dollars effectively. Bargain.
what was the price of the 5800X3D before giftcards?
@@paradigmshift7541 290 us dollars or something like that.
Bought 2, now I can not upgrade for another few years! Thanks AMD! 😂
Bought one at Best Buy. They price matched rhe Microcenter sale.....but rhey made a mistake and I got it dor 229. 😂
Bruhhhh 😂😢
does it come with thermal paste or do i even need it when putting my cooler on it ?
you'd have to use your own paste! it doesn't come with a cooler
Got one brand new for 158$🕺
Pro strat, go to micro center and get the combi
I wish!
I got a 5700X and will be getting a 4070ti in a few days.. Dont know if I should get the 5800X3D
It would help alot if your mainly gaming
I say do it !! You get alot more fps as the 5800x3d pumps out alot more fps avg and lows. I Got it with a 7900xtx. And for 1440p i offers Max gpu usage and Max fps for all my games!
should I switch out my 5900x for the x3d ? Or upgrade to b die ram ?
@@silfrido1768 5800x3d. As ram dont really get an impact on the x3d as it Got so much v-cache. Its going to give you full performance even though your on 2666 or 3800c14 ram !!
Absolutely do NOT. Do not listen to noraskov he does not know what hes talking about. If you want to upgrade to another am4 cpu get the 5900x it is cheaper, faster, and cooler than the 5800x3d
5700x3d has entered the chat
Such a great CPU, the non 3D is very good
The 5800x is nowhere near the 5800X3D. 5800X3D is next gen performance
@@beemrmem3You do not know what you are talking about. The 5800x3d has a 10-15% preformance uplift over the base 5800x and costs 320 instead of 230. The 5900x costs 288 and preforms the same in games as the 5800x3d and is something of 30% faster in productive tasks
@kingiument4627 5800x3d outperforms the 5900x at every game by atleast 2% up to 20% 😂
@@dannn6703 Only in a few games. That boost can be completely negated by enabling SAM which uses spare gpu vram and uses it as vcache for the cpu. In titles that benefit from it like cyberpunk will get a 20-30% performance boost
what custom cables are those?
I got a Ryzen 7 5800x for 180$ on Amazon
7600 / x does the exact same if not better and has access to ddr5 for cheaper
No, just no if we are talking gaming. For professional workloads that need cores the x3d chips are stupid though (lower clocks to make headroom for cache) and they cost more per core. But if gaming the 5800x3d beats out any of the current AM5 cpus that don't have the 3dv cache still without breaking a sweat
Would I be smart to upgrade from a Ryzen 7 5700x to a 5800x3d I have a 6750xt and 32gb of ram ?
you could totally do this but im not sure how much of an increase youd see in games. maybe 10-15 fps depending on the game
Absolutely do not. Your current cpu does not bottleneck your gpu and the 5900x is cheaper and faster than the 5800x3d
problem with 5800x3d is that it costs almost as new am5 + r5 7500f/7600+ddr5 and you have mobo for zen5,6 too
Ngl it depends on your region cause up here in Canada it does not cost $400 CAD (including tax) to get a 7600X + a new mobo + ram as of right now.
For reference I got the 5800X3D for $400 CAD (including a 13% tax)
7600 are something cheaper and basically same as x version only 150-200mhz less clocks @@bullet996
It costs MORE than am5 the 5800x3d is a bad deal when the 5900x and 7600x are both cheaper and faster and cooler
yes, even for gaming 5900x are not good so i will rather go with AM5 mobo such as some a 620-b650 cheaper ones because of upgrade on zen5,6 @@kingiument4627
@@Mr11ESSE111 Eh the 5900x is a good deal if you already have a built am4 motherboard but if youre going to build a whole new rig then 7600 am5 is better to do
good thing i got one before u told everyone
But why do you have two gaming PCs?
What about the 5950? Is that any good still with new generations?
If you also do your work on your computer besides gaming 5950x is still a beast
If you care only about gaming performance 5800x3d is nobrainer
I'm still rocking an 1800x at 4.1ghz since day 1 barely hits 45c if ever. I upgraded to a 3800x when they came out and my performance increase was not even noticeable but temps were about 20-25c higher so I sent the 3800x back. I'm trying to figure out if the 5800x3d is finally worth the upgrade. My Crosshair Hero VI is still a solid mobo and I've already got 64gb of ram I don't really wanna have to get a new mobo and ram just for a new CPU. Thoughts?
I switched from a Ryzen 5 3600 to this cpu today. Ik it’s sad, but I downloaded Fortnite (just to see my frames). I went from a solid 80-90 frames to 200-400 frames
I switched from a 1700x to a 5600x a long time ago and the difference was insane
@@f_g7304 interesting. I think ill go for it. Was deciding on just a cpu upgrade or a full new build. But 5 year PC life expectancy is 15 years ago. They can last so much longer today
Definitely time for you to fit proof and get a new build.
With that much money on a mobo, yeah get the best possible cpu for it. 5800x3d or a 5900x if you need the extra cores. That would last you 4-5 years and make your mobo worth every penny.
5700x3d is way better price to performance on am4 in the most nations of the world.
5800x3d is still a cool choice
Now its at 350 after tax 😢
just bought myself the 7 7800x3d for 360€
is this cpu a good match for 4070 ti super?
That's what I have and it is a great CPU
Could this CPU (effectively) be used as a games server. Or is that a waste of money?
Waste of money. The 5900x is 60 bucks less and the same preformance and the 7600 is 110 less for 10% more preformance. If youre doing a fresh build go AM5 with the 7600
Yes, 5800X3D is amazing if you are already on AM4. But with the leaks coming out about the next Zen series IPC improvements, no way would I choose to build a new system on AM4 now, regardless of this price.
This isn't for new builds it's for people with am4 already (which is a lot of people)
just got mine for $270
It was 290 last week but I missed the sale. I'm debating on if It when I get paid or wait to see if it drops in price again.
Good for streaming?
If you can cool the bloody thing. I have a Noctua NH-U12A, and it till runs at 80c while gaming.
Just get a watercooler just like a normal person and you have 0 heat issues
Air coolers should probably also not have an issue with that cpu. Switched to a cheap off-brand water cooler and it also runs at 55-65°c while gaming.@@adahepper2665
@@adahepper2665Liquid coolers arent really any better than air coolers. In fact noctua air coolers outpreform almost all liquid coolers
@@kingiument4627 No, not even remotely correct.
Generally speaking, a high end air cooler will perform on par with a 240mm AIO cooler.
360-420mm outperform air coolers with ease.
@@adahepper2665Why are you saying im not even remotely correct when you are referring to something so niche thay very few people can use?
Those are massive non standard liquid coolers that dont fit in most cases. Air coolers preform on par with 280mm and some 360mm liquid coolers.
If youre going to call people wrong atleast know what youre talking about?
260$ now
£277 in the uk got mine
Was 250 like a month ago too
Beautiful computer ❤
I also have an x570 with ddr4 🤔
It may be the way to go!
❤❤
I WOULD LOVE
A RYZEN 7 5700G
Should i upgrade from a 3700x
7800x3d on sale rn $330
You can’t use ddr5 with it?