Bigger version of BYD Seagull might be Europe's cheapest electric car
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- Bigger version of BYD Seagull might be Europe's cheapest electric car
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The Seagull is already sold in Latin America under the name of Dolphin Mini. It is the top seller EV in Brazil in 2024 so far.
Yes, I've heard BYD is all over Latin America (and the Caribbean). The USA will be like Cuba used to be; driving old gas/diesel vehicles while the rest of the world drives electric. USA chooses to be left behind.
Why don't they use the original name Seagull? Is this animal disliked by Brazilians?
The price.
@@deepseer In Uruguay it's called Seagull, it's the top 6 sold car in 2024 so far
These are not cheap products, they are affordable. They are good in tech and affordable in price due to the efficient manufacturing process.
They are affordable because they use inferior components. The car won't last that long.
*Made with slave labor and substandard specifications.
There I fixed it for you.
You're right-affordable not cheap.
Build by robotic machines..
Sam, if you have chance you could've attended the Beijing motor show (Apr 26 to May 04) finished, you wouldl be amazed and shock by how advance the current Chinese EV market is and so many new models from all the EV maker in China in this motor show this will enrich your understanding and knowledge in general for you in hosting your EV program
Sam's too busy making 10 video's a day 🙂
Thank you for the good works
I don't want the cars to be bigger for Europe. Size and price make them so attractive.
Ireland is in the EU and drives on the left
That’s right 👍
So are Cypress and Malta so 4 countries in total
Yes and about 25% of the world's population, including India which is the largest in the world now, also do. So yeah, RHD is an absolute requirement for serious car companies. Plus, no-one should trust any engineer who considers it a serious challenge.
@@colinbridges8241he’s very glib with his facts
@@johnfrancis4401 No. That's left
Bear in mind BYD said the seagull was china only and is now going to be sold in EU and then there are a number of RHD countries especially Thailand, UK and Australia it may not be a hopeless hope.
Ireland, Cyprus and Malta would like a word about right hand drive too
The Seagull (Dolphin mini) will be sold in South Africa and it is right hand drive
That's a bit of a bummer I like the Seagull
Good option for a small car for our holiday home in Spain.
I was waiting for the Lancia EV, but so far Lancia have only released a small truck =SUV as a hybrid
Americans would like a bigger battery for increased range, not necessarily a bigger size car of the seagull, which would decrease range.
by the way dacia spring is 20k euro now ,and because is made in China,potential tariff will add to this car in EU market follow the US，so maybe no more cheap EV in euro market
To protect Germany which made suicide.
That's wrong. Dacia spring >14k € but it is a very bad car. Tariffs do not protect Germany, on the contrary, it is another means of destroying this country. The sales market in the Asian region is now more important and tariffs would be counterproductive for the automotive industry
If it comes to the UK (not confirmed), it needs to be £15k like the entry level Dacia Spring. At that price, it will be a far better car for the same price and might get some traction. If it’s 318k to £20k in the UK I still think it’s going to struggle as there will be cars like the Citroen E-C3 and Renault 5 to compete against.
Surprised they haven't done a left hand drive yet. Many asian countries drive on the left. India, japan, indonesia, malaysia etc... pretty big market.
When does the BYD Seagull/ Dolphin Mini comes to Europe? and with models? and what will be the prices in EURO €???
I hear you say it would be bigger, which is good. However, let BYD take into consideration to have 2 windshield wipers instead of one
The mistake BYD made was not matching MG-SAIC . Their cars were too expensive.
tariff
wrrr
Very interesting. So no BYDs in Australia either for a while then? Or are there other models?
Many models, Viking himself bought the Atto 3 a few years ago. The Dolphin's been in Australia/NZ since last year, and Seal is now available.
BYD shark, hev pickup,500kw power
Ireland is left hand drive…. And we are definitely not the UK. (You have said that in a few videos now…. I let the others slip…lol ) You are better that this Sam. ;-)
Ireland, also right hand drive.
It's against the law when byd produces cheap and affordable EV in US and EU.
Will it ever come to Australia?
Hungary alreeady produces Mercedes-Benz vehicles, so it is a good move by BYD. Chinese EVs are in a similar place as Japanese cars in the 1970s. They will be a dominant player and legacy US and European automakers will have their market share reduced just as it happened when the Japanese manufacturers began manufacturing in the US.
On a point of information, Britain is not the only RHD country in Europe. Malta, Cyprus and my homeland of Ireland are also RHD countries.
Most countries in Asia drive on the left, so hopefully, BYD will produce RH drive seagulls. 🎉
Unless BYD finally offers the charging-port on the LEFT, we can't charge it, so can't buy it.
Do not forget Malta, we drive on right-hand side.....lol.
Even 30% more expensive than china is still cheaper than the car price in indonesia... almost every cars are doubled the price here
Tell us more about spair BYD Seagull's spair parts and battery cost ?
It will have to compete (in France) with cars that can benefit from 4k to 7k of cost reduction. So it might work if it's 7k cheaper than a EU built car (eC3 at 23k euros, R5 expected around 25k, ...).
seagull is piece of design artwork
😂
Sam Stellantis is realising that badge engineering is the quickest way into the ev market instead of spending a decade on R and D.at great expense.
1:01 Ireland, Cyprus, & Malta are all RHD
No rear wiper on the seagull?
They sell the Seal in the UK very strange
Dacia Spring is 20k euro.
I think the whole EU must follow the France's example and calculate the CO2 emitted during the whole production and transportation process.
This is the reason for which Model 3 don't receive incentives in France and the reason for which Renault 5's supply chain is on a 300 km radius.
Plus I will add the pollution with SO2 and NO2.
by the way dacia spring is made in China,potential tariff will add to this car in EU market
Yay🎉
Kiwis like you may not realise that cars in Ireland are also RHD
The reason we don't have more than 5 percent of the population in Sweden driving a pure EV is simple, it's still fantasy high prices. You could purchase a Suzuki Ignis here, brand new for like 14-18K usd, take it and drive 600 km. But the absolutely cheapest EV here has an range of 200 Km in the summer and cost almost 3 times as much. Top that up with slow charging and 1000 different charge-station owners that all want to cover their own base with prices often topping that of its Ice counterparts, like gasoline - and you have a no-go.
I just don't see it happen.
There's so many testing and approvals and requirements for vehicles.... I'm not sure how any could be just be sold all of a sudden in other countries.
With California's labeling for things with suspected carcinogens..... It's impractical for a lot of products to even be solding there just because labels are too cumbersome
Right is best
At 1:18 in the video there is a right hand drive car. And the you said they don’t produce a right hand drive version. Another model?
If you look closely, you'll notice the play logo on the screen is inverted. Same with the word "music". Apparently the video was inverted.
They won't sell in Europe.
How can Chinese cars be sold so cheaply you ask, because a Reuters analysis of the estimated income included in recent job advertisements from 30 Chinese auto firms showed hourly salaries of 14 yuan ($1.93) to 31 yuan ($4.27). No way EU, UK or US auto workers can compete with labor that cheap!
Before of after taxes?
In many countries outside the US the company pays the taxes.
The only tax that the individual pays is the VAT tax and property taxes.
The CCP subsidizes all Chinese EV companies that export their cars.
I have feeling it is more like $12/hr given gdp/capita is about 1/5
vinfast汽车便宜了吗？只知道比亚迪员工的工资吗？你这个结论很愚蠢。
Byd auto workers earn an after-tax income of 5,000-6,000 yuan, a bottle of Coke costs 3 yuan. European auto workers earn an after-tax income of 2,000-2,500 euros, a bottle of Coke costs 1.5 euros.
BYD Seagull is a low level EV in china with price us$9970(305km)
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And what will the price be in Europe?18.000€...?
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I‘ll get one and sell my VW Polo
Sure? The VW Polo has less depreciation. And less insurance costs.
Something between the Dolphin and Seagull is so strange
The cheapest ev's in norvay now is citroen c3-e and mazda mx30.
If you say a car is coming to Europe btw, that means the continent. Otherwise you say something else. Asia doesn't mean China and Korea and Japan, or India and Pakistan. It means the continent. African doesn't mean one specific country. America means both continents. Australia is literally the only country that's a continent.
Other channel reports the us import tax on Chinese made cars is going to 100%
USA
None of China EVs is sold in the US. It's purely a political theatrical move for Biden to win votes.
@@abdulwaduod11 Trump: 200%. Or maybe even a total ban on EVs.
I’m on the budget I’d love to buy low price with any brand as long as they won’t break down
Then stay away from chinese brands. Hardly a dealer network, so IF they do brake down, then you're in trouble.
@@stefan2796dude,be brave, don't be afraid of competition, Chinese car might be crap 10 years ago,but now
Six out of the 10 cars assessed as the safest on Europe's roads are from Chinese manufacturers. In 2023 Euro NCAP,
It shall conquer the World.
'Next year'. A lot can happen between now and then. I believe it when I see it. And also, BYD doesnt have a factory in Hungary. They are planning one. I think it was announced in Dec'23 so unless they built the factory in 5 months, they dont have one. So again, lets wait and see, especially now when EU is getting more and more concerned with China's oversupply which may create some issues for the factory in Hungary.
Ursula can't do sh*to. BMW, Mercedes and VW stand to lose more!
@@infospeednyc1708 Lets see what happens if EU says that Hungry will stop getting all the support from EU. At the end of the day, Hungary is way more dependent in EU than China and Hungary has already pissed of EU in many ways before it started to align itself with commies.
@@bubuneowoo6161 I agree, but this is no longer just about what 3 automakers stand to lose. This is about China completely screwing the rest of the world across many industries, not just auto. Time to make China follow international rules and WTO.
Ev,s manufactured I Hungary can be exported to the middle East or Africa if EU still tries to block their sale in western Europe.
@@eish3291 Fair point but BYD's main competitive advantage, or only, is its cheap labor and low regulatory costs. They wont have that in Hungary, albeit cheaper than Germany etc. but nowhere close to what they can produce cars for in China.
People in uk need to start driving on the right side of the road!
That would be the stupidest decision ever as it's safer to drive on the left & nobody wants to change to the wrong side
@@Lando-kx6so So the rest of europe and USA and pretty much all countries in africa and asia drive on the right but we the one on the wrong side ?
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Ireland, Malta along with Isle of Man are countries in EU that drive on the left, so please correct your video to reflect this fact.
wrg
Ireland is in the EU - Isle of Man is not.
Elon Musk screwed up so badly with Cyber Truck.. Why the F was he focused on making an even more needlessly expensive vehicle? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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They should make Seagull bigger as the West is bigger size compare to smaller size Asian.
USA will be like Cuba used to be; driving old gas/diesel vehicles while the rest of the world drives electric.
Hybrids also. Best choice for the next decade or so.
Not coming here... be ready to be surprised.
18 000 EUR is too expensive, 12 000 EUR would be a good price. No one will buy BYD for the same money as Renault 5 or Dacia, because BYD doesn't have repair shops around Europe and no one knows how to repair it.
I want a BYD Elephant or Whale
Don't forget the BYD Rhino!
I don't want an other larger BYD Seagul in Europe, I want exactly the one sold in China! Manufacturers will probably have to learn the hard way. As long as the EV's are 30-50% more expensive than ICE cars, people simply won't buy them, period!
i'll believe it when i see it. this has been BYDs failure for years.
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I just wish the UK would convert to driving on the right...!
Why we stubbornly stick to our antiquated right-hand-drive cars is beyond me...
Sweden did it (apparently, overnight...!!) back in the late 60s, so there's a president for being able to do it.
Then, at least, we could start to enjoy cheaper and a wider variety of cars built for the wider global car markets.
Ridiculous argument, and the majority of the population is right handed so there's an actual reason for it. Also, we have some of the safest roads in the world thanks. No changes required. 25% of the world's population and growing is RHD. Sweden has hardly any population, less then and even fewer cars and it did not go well btw.
Why not southeast asia first 😢
BYD are a joke in the Uk. With more models and more dealers they sold just 333 cars in April 2024, meanwhile SAIC (MG) sold 5371 cars. BYD are obviously facing big problems with UK pricing which is more than double than their cars cost in China.
Everyone sees the BYD selling half the price in China, people see it as a rip off charging double
@@markevans2280
Not their doing. Tariffs, import duties, greedy dealers.
Same picture on mainland Europe. MG seems to sell reasonably well, BYDs belong to the category 'endangered species'...
I wonder how high the tariffs and other taxes charges are on Chinese Electric Vehicle in European countries ?
Probably the tariffs taxes will make the Chinese EVs much more expensive to buy then the European EVs.
Let hope tariffs taxes will be low to allow MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE to switch to buy an EV ?
😉💖🚙⚡️🔋🌞🌏✌️
Dacia Spring is the cheapest - that's true, but let's have a look at the specs:
Range 225km
0-100kmh: 19sek
Max speed: 125kmh
Judge yourself 😉
Yes, it's cheaper so it's better. That's the point of cheaper products. They're cheaper. We buy them because they cost less. That often means they don't taste quite as good, or aren't as large, or don't have as many features. But they generally do the job you actually need.
Euro NCAP crash test results for small cars like this: 1 star (coffin on wheels)...just a thought.
BYD going to Hungry as labour is cheap and they’ll do anything for some investment.
Hungary is part of the EU meaning BYD's rolling out that factory will be exempt from import tariffs.
@@MJ-revered thanks for pointing out the obvious. Well aware of what continent Hungary is on, been there many years ago through work, grim grey place, locals are lovely and cheap labour aplenty. If they had better wages you can rest assured they’d build their factories in France, Germany or Spain.
@@paulb1951 You're not learning because a European country does not equate being part of the EU. Chinese Chery will soon open their factory in Spain and are in talks with Italy to do the same. There are already many Chinese owned factories in Germany and France has invited BYD for talks. And there is more.
@@MJ-revered I’m not learning what? You’ve not told me anything I’m not aware of.
By the way it’s a joint venture for Chery in an old Nissan site. Lots of subsidies offered by the Spanish. Think they’ll eventually move to Hungry when the subsidies run out. It’s very common practice.
Choosing right hand drive is one of the biggest economic mistakes a country can make. Especially if they don't produce their own vehicles.
Not at all as there are massive countries that drive on the left & produce massive amounts of RHD cars & many countries around the world aren't car dependent like US or OZ. I'm originally from Jamaica & we drive on the left & have no problems with cars. Most of our cars come used from Japan, Singapore, Thailand, & the UK it's also the same in most Caribbean, Southern African, & East African countries.
love the look of the Seagull but hate the fact it has "Build Your Dreams" written on the back, honestly it's like someone made up that name for a joke and somehow it stuck
My issues with BYD are lithium battery ignition and substandard axle supports, none of which Sam ever mentions.
Agree. They seem to not be putting it on export models much any more.
@@stu9000 thank the lord. BYD badge I can handle fine, however "Build Your Dreams" sounds like a bad 90's movie 🙂
Good well we're not going to buy the $10,000 EV until it cost $10,000.
Today, there was an accident in China where a BYD driver was electrocuted while sitting in the driver's seat and fell unconscious. It didn't rain and there were no crashes. It appears that liquid flowed from the battery and climbed onto the vehicle, causing an electric shock.
fake news
@@user-oz1lf9pb2b
BYD is well known for its battery malfunctions, which often lead to lithium fires, how do you respond to that?
Could sell it for $5, but with 'Build Your Dreams' plastered across the back I just couldn't
You can easily remove the letters with hairdryer and string
Hello mate
Endless promises of dirt cheap Chinese cars, but when they arrive in the UK, they never are.
So I'll believe it when I see it.
Don't hold your breath, guys.
100% tariffs by government I'm Europe
That,s not BYD,s fault but due to import duties and the distributors mark up.
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Byd more than 1,5 years on the market in the Netherlands, after Norwsy, the nr 2 EV market of Europe. Byd is sold via Toyota Louwman in the Netherlands. Sofar no significant sales AT ALL!
Why?
Quality not up to European standard
Not cheap
Poor range compared to Wltp figures
The same for Nio, Zeekr, Huwai, Aiways etc etc all salesflop..... .
The same in Norway, Germany, Uk, despite massive press and media attention like mr Viking..... .
No sales.
Only Chinese build Volvo and MG sell well.
Take a while..these are not very smart countries and people. Need coaching.
@@blackknight4996 😅😅😅😅😅
Europeans should learn from Asean. The buyers here don't pay overpriced and overhyped Europeans evs because most can't afford to. Chinese evs absolutely dominate the market because they are affordable and reliable. They know Chinese batteries are used by non Chinese automakers like Tesla because they are the safest ones around. They also know many Byd and NIO ev models have 5 star safety rating. EU is worried about their evs coming into Europe for a good reason. The only weapon they have is by imposing more tariffs to protect their own brands from being demolished.
5 star safety rating from your own Euro NCAP. More stars than some Europen brands.
What hwai EV.?
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Only a fool would place tariffs on Chinese EVs and make it more expensive for their own consumers. I know some will say that without tariffs local car manufacturing would disappear along with those jobs. But as a consumer, it's not my problem. That's the govt's responsibility to ensure these people are employed. I just want a safe car at a reasonable price. And if you put tariffs in the EU the Chinese will just make them in Hungary, skirting the tariffs. So just embrace the lower cost Chinese cars
Microcars are the future. Dolphin way too big.
China and anti-democratic Hungary is a non-go combination. I hope that lots of Europeans vote with their money😊👍!
How much money does European have to vote like this? Chinese EV, Solar, Tech, etc - How much are European willing to waste away buying more expensive things and then have to cut back spending on their local economy.
Europeans will vote based on the size of their wallets just like everywhere around the world.
I will buy a car that does the job that I require it to do even if I can afford a more expensive option.
Hungary is not "anti-democratic". Do not believe everything the mainstream media tries to manipulate with.
eu people are not as small as you my little viking.... there is a reason it wil be bigger
I am starting honestly to believe you are getting paid by chinese EV manufacturers.
China is leading in ev ‘s . America and Europe are nowhere near. What u want him to say , lie that china is bigeest car market of evs ¿
BYD shareholder...
He is.
Let Tesla and the rest release models. Then he can talk about them!
Are you jealous?
Ccp makes 豆腐渣工程
BYD=Burn You Dead per Google
BYD = Big Yellow Dude
@@HafiZzZzZz Ccp makes 豆腐渣工程
@@JK-sf3vg
Just like your parents made you...😂😂
@@JK-sf3vg 😂😂😂
BYD= Bro, you drive.😊
the more i watch the comments here, the more ignorant i find the views of westerners are. come on. you guys live in 1st world countries 🥱