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Scotty Kilmer did I just catch you lying? In this video you claim your Celica gets 26 mpg, but in a previous video on why cars get worse mileage as they get older, you claim your Celica gets 28 mpg. So which one is true?
Michael Sullivan I'm going to disagree. Willys had true 4x4 versions going back to WW2. GM certainly did produce the Suburbans in the 1930s but it wasn't a 4x4 platform until the late 1950s. Ultimately it all depends on what your definition of a SUV is. If a high wheelbase wagon = SUV, GM. If a 4x4 high wheelbase wagon = SUV, Willys.
David Regan. I would go with the first definition. Simply because I don't think it needs to be 4WD to be an SUV. If it did then Sport Terrain Vehicle seems a more accurate description .
I believe my uncle had an early 50's 4x4 chevy panel van when I was a kid, It looked way more like an SUV than a van, Hmm, then there's the old beer wagons, hmm, then there's the wooden wagon, desert schooner....
Scotty is spot on about Ford's 10-speed transmission. I just bought a Mustang GT which makes 460HP and has this transmission. I just took my first 40-mile trip with it, which had city and highway driving. I averaged 25 mpg.
Thanks Scotty,I got my 07 expedition RSC,2 years ago,love it so much when the timing jumped on it last year,instead of getting another one,I got a brand new ,warantise v8 triton put in at my local Ford dealer ,keeping it forever .
A few things here : 1. GM’s had the Suburban since 1935. 2. Jeep came out with the Wagoneer in 1962. 3. International had the Scout 4. Ford wouldn’t have made the Bronco on the F-series platform if not for the Chevy K-5 Blazer. 5. There wouldn’t have been the “game-changing” Ford Explorer if not for the Jeep Cherokee, which in itself was a response to the Chevrolet/GMC S-10 Blazer/S-15 Jimmy.
1. The suburban was a panel wagon/station wagon from the 30s to the 70s 2. The jeep wagoneer, was classified as a station wagon, hence the name 3. You have a point there, but the Scout was barebones and didn't have a legacy. 4. The Bronco predated the k5 blazer so that is irrelevant. 5. The Explorer was vastly superior to every other SUV on the market at the time. Just face it, the Bronco was the closest thing to a modern SUV in the 60s
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My wife and I bought a new Ford Excursion 4X4 7.3 Diesel, when they came out new in 2000. It was billed as "The largest SUV on the planet" by Ford. A title it still holds. With 190,000 miles (30,000 of which was towing a TT) it still runs and drives LIKE NEW!
I take my 1st gen off road all the time. Too bad the new ones couldn't climb a pebble due to epa restrictions (ride height/ body line for gas mileage). I actually find mine quite useful. I removed the 3rd row seat so I can use it for work. It's funny to see people stare it down when I'm pulling a 8,000lb load behind it meanwhile their Chevy 2500 or whatever is pulling two little jet ski's. Has the 5.4L, Awd, mid gears, 4r100 trans, and heavy duty coilovers in the back set up for towing, use to have air ride.
I got one of these a few weeks ago, and it is an astounding vehicle. And you didn't even get into the towing capabilities, Scotty! This sucker can pull 9000 pounds.
I love the Expedition. My '97 model lasted for 17 years before it needed serious maintenance. We bought the '15 model when it came out, and it's awesome! The '18 sounds like a greater improvement, but I am not ready to trade in my '15 yet. My wife wants the '18 now. We'll see. Love the video!
@@guillermoloredo2057 I've redirected my wife's attention to a new Mustang instead. We have an 06 Mustang; so, upgrading that first is more prudent. Plus, she doesn't like to drive the Expedition; but loves riding in it. My 15 Expedition is still in great shape. I may hold on to it for another 5-10 yrs before upgrading to whatever the latest Expedition model will be.
@YourTypical Asian I never looked into the Bronco. I hate the way it looks. It looks like a cross between Range Rover and Jeep. I wish they had kept the prototype design. It looked more like the classic Bronco with modern features.
YourTypical Asian it’s not ugly. I just don’t think the design is original or at least the features aren’t reminiscent of the old Bronco. Like a Mustang will always have a feature similar to the original 60’s Mustang that will let you know it’s a Mustang at a glance.
Hey Scotty, I still own and run my 2001 Ford Expedition (5.7L) from when I bought it new. Still lovin' it. It has to be one of the best vehicles I have ever owned. I also have had it off road too. Over boulders in the Smokey Mountains (ask my family about that time), locally going up and down mud slick rocky trails in 4WD (it has both HI and LOW gearing and the complete off road package, crush plates, etc). It is even more fun in the snow if you can imagine 2 1/2 tons (tonnes) of truck just about equally weighted over 4 wheels, it literally cannot be stopped. Just smile at everyone as you go by and sometimes stop to get someone going again. Really impressed with that gas mileage too. Mine only gets about 16mpg highway.
Yours don’t have a 5.7L engine. It’s a 5.4L 330ci modular triton v8. Or they are avail with 4.6L. Unless you’ve done a 350 swap with Chevrolet engine which is unlikely.
My 2015.5 suburban averages 26mpg 4wd always useful in the snow, and nothing beats it's giant v8! Wish it was louder though. And Chevy has made the suburban for over 80 years now, that's the first SUV, not ford
Yea I have the 2018 5.0L V8, I get around 24 MPG-E (equivalent because I use E85) unfortunately it seems Ford may be abandoning the Coyote which is sad as it is my favorite engine.
my neighbor and his dad bought 2 new fords in 2015 . The dad bought a Lincoln Navigator and the son bought the Expedition. The Expedition would leave the family on the road, no start.Then about 8 months later the dads did the same thing.The dealers did not know what the problem was. They went out and bought each a new GMC Yukon , no problems after that.
It's impossible to repair cars these days, i mean, u can change a wheel, maybe a suspension, but not even that anymore, i mean, Audi's lift them self up and down to prevent crashes or give u more comfort, cars these days are made for rich people that have enough money to maintain them ...
SDD525 So a 4 liter German one is way cheaper you say? Did we just slip into an alternate dimension where size of engine equates to maintenance costs and also which way is the Stargate from here?
I have a Ford Excursion for when we want to take trips and get 12 miles per gallon. But then I have a minivan for when I want to get 30 miles per gallon 😂😂😂
I have a 1998 Ford Expedition that gets about 13 MPG combined with the 4.7 liter V8 for work and a 2010 Honda Odyssey that gets about 25 MPG which my wife drives. So I went and bought at 2000 Honda Civic ex Coupe for the days when I don't have to haul anything or drop off the kids and that little thing gets almost 35 miles per gallon. Best 1800 bucks I've spent in a long time :D
my diesel excursion get 22 mpg on highway and way more torque than that expedition its also way bigger. You can only dream of getting to 200k miles out of twinturbo
Strict: and there you have it: while you may save in fuel economy you lose out on longevity. There's all sorts of issues with the eco boost engines and they aren't even out of warranty yet.
I've a 2020 Expedition MAX. Yes, it's ginormous. Yes it handles like an oil tanker. But I'm very satisfied with it. Fits the 5 of us very comfortably. Towed a car trailer and a car like it wasn't there. Handles the snow like it wasn't there.
SUVS are more comfy and useful,I spent most of my life in minivans as a passenger and suvs are a VAST improvement for them (assuming they are physically to step in) and drivers especially in big cities can get midsize suvs like explorers,durangos or pilots and find parking more easily(not to mention driving them is more enjoy able) that seat the same amount of people, also aesthetics minivan design is pretty trash save for the pacifica and odyssey and people want something that at least doesnt completley disgust their occulus.
Just got a 2010 Ford Expedition XLT a few weeks back, and really is a nice vehicle. Yeah, the 5.4 wasn’t their greatest work, but I bought it with all the timing components replaced. So far I’ve put plenty of highway and backroad miles on it, and it runs and drives like a champ! Even for a 2010 big suv, it gets 22.5 on the highway at 70 mph. It’s not the gas hog I was completely expecting!
I just cannot figure out how people can tolerate the weekly cost of filling up the tank on the giant pick ups and SUVs???!!! Going on a road trip or a weekly commute is a major expense, while the large sedans are now getting great mileage with great comfort.
I have a '96 Ford Explorer XLT, bought used 3 years ago, and aside from some minor repairs, it got me through a year of delivering pizza (before I left that crap job behind for one I drive about a half hour to get to). Minimal maintenance (because, as I said, it was a crap job and I couldn't afford the time or the money) and it never gives me any serious problems. Now that I have a bit more money coming in, and a LOT less driving, I can get more things done. Damned dependable, got me through Tropical Storm Irma and shrugged it off like it was just another Tuesday.
The Ford Expedition was the successor of the Bronco even though I love the Bronco. I have a 2015 Expedition EL also with a 3.5L EcoBoost and I love it. I bought it used down in Miami. It's really fun to drive😁
My Explorer V8 still purrs after 15 years and 180k miles. The 2-valve 4.6L is excellent. Lots of torque. Rarely has to exceed 3000 rpm. Very comfortable place to be, especially on the highway. Happily picks up speed without downshifting. I've accidentally hit 90 before, lol! Accelerates from a stop pretty quickly too, when you consider how big it is and how much stuff and people you can put in it. Recently replaced the timing chains, guides, and tensioners. Which was relatively easy because they're both at the front. (The regular 4.0 V6 models have 4 chains, one of which is on the back of the engine, and requires either the entire engine, or transmission to be taken out in order to access)
Have a 2004 with 325 thousand miles on it it’s a spare vehicle now. Never had a problem with it the ride is still good. Bought my wife a 2021 last year and love the new one
Scotty I really liked this review video! I would love to see you review more cars because you don't just talk about features and gadgets for 20 minutes but also talk about mechanics. Much love from NY
At a $51,000 starting price, this is a status symbol that will probably require premium fuel to run properly because of the turbos. Admittedly this is their nicest looking Expedition yet, But I have a minivan and it does almost everything this one does for half the price.
Enjoyed the video Scotty. This beauty man cave. Is similar to my 2003 Lincoln Navigator. I call it the NAVI cruiser. Mine looks like everything you shown. In my years with it. I removed the rear console and made it accessible walk way for the third folding row. I replaced the old air suspension for springs. Everything else works. hardly any repairs. Best car and luxury that I ever got to own free and clear since 2005. We can't seem to get tired of it. It has 113k miles in 2018 :D. Drive it in town mainly. My kids don't want me to sell her. They love cruising to restaurants and attractions as people watch the NAVI cruise by. Mileage haven't paid attention to it Guess about $75 for 3 weeks worth. Cool video Scotty.😎
Rolling wifi hotspot too. Took our new Expedition on a long road trip with five adults and a big dog. No one complained about the ride. The "kids" got to use their gadgets the whole way too. I love driving it on the interstates.
my 2002 Ford Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke based on the 3/4 Superduty with leaf spring suspension, solid axles front and rear can get 21 MPG on the highway. And it weighs waaaay more than this and can also pull 10,000 lbs.
I am currently in UK and I was looking at new family cars. The thing is optioned out sedans cost £34.000 to £37.000. Well, you can pay a bit less and get a ranger pick up with the same options. The differences are that you get 4x4, 2 more cylinders and a body on frame car wit solid axles that will take ages to rust out and that keeps value like gold. Edit: also the regular benefits of a pick up like being easier to get in and out, going over curbs without worrying, not get stuck in mud and snow and being able to tow twice as much plus being able to load the bed.
In the description of this video. the question is asked, " Is Ford reliable?" Unfortunately, no answer to that question. From my experience the answer is somewhat reliable. Less reliable than Toyota, but about as reliable as GM (which means over 100,000 with few to no problems, but watch out as you approach 200,000).
My '03 Silverado had almost 300,000 miles on it when I sold it. Engine was just tired out, but it was original as well as the transmission. I think the problem these days is the maintenance on the vehicles. For example, I always change my oil every 5,000 miles, coolant every 2 years or 25,000 miles, and drop the pan and change the filter on the transmission every 50,000 miles. I can't justify changing the oil every 7,500-10,000 miles. From what I learned from the automotive gurus over the years, the more you change your fluids, the longer the drive train is going to last. Except for one vehicle that was totaled in a car accident, every one of my vehicles that I have owned (Ford, GM, Chrysler) have lasted well over 200,000 miles before selling them. So yes, I do agree cars are less reliable these days, which is why I am more vigilant with the maintenance. I also perform all the maintenance myself, but that isn't always someone's cup of tea either.
Trucks in particular are more durable on the GM and Ford products. You will be hard pressed in the cars to do the same (get 300,000 on the original power train). However, I did own until very recently a 2006 Saab 9-3 with nearly 175,000 on it and going strong except a tree fell on it and totaled it (that is not the car's fault). So I agree, maintenance helps all around just my experience shows that for those two companies many have a hard time making it beyond 200,000 (some of my cars have lasted 300,000 but not all of them - not trucks or SUVs).
It depends on the engines though. Ford V8 RWD car platforms and trucks are the most likely vehicles in North America to reach 300,000 miles. Chevy Trucks and Toyota 4 cylinder cars also have similar reliability.
At least Scotty didn't discourage us to buy it this time :D The all new 2020 Explorer ST and Platinum will equip with the same 3.0L V6 engine and 10-speed transmission under the hood. Excited about this new model!
Thank you Scotty, a great history lesson. It is mind boggling, 26 mpg. Wow. They are comfortable on road trips the kids do settle in, 5 hours or longer.
I used to squeeze 20MPG on the highway on my old Triton 4.6L Expedition, it was 16 mixed driving. My Tundra now can barely eek out 17MPG. It's amazing how much Ford has improved MPG on this beast.
The better gas mileage kinda negates the $65,000 price tag for these monstrosities. You can keep it. I'll take a 3 cylinder mirage 5 speed getting 56 miles per gallon highway!
I have a 1st gen expedition witha 2v 5.4, 4wd, tow package oversized chrome rims, has an awful knocking ticking exhaust manifold leak and some minor wear issues but it runs and drives great
perfection damn, one thing I heard from Scotty on his videos is that Kelly blue book is all fraud so dealers here get away with pricing this much. A new vehicle shouldn’t cost nearly that much it’s so sad
best car and a wish car... I am a student and I have a Jeep grand Cherokee ... I wasn't sure first but now I am in love with it... big cars are perfect
3:40 "Man-Cave on wheels" ... its true, that's exactly why I have an Expedition. I really love it. Worth every penny. I went driving yesterday in my Expedition for two hours... just cause.
Scotty, look at a ford fiesta ST, gets 32-33MPG avg with 200HP; and it could have gotten 20% better, if they had the right gearing on there. All they needed was a much taller final gear ratio, and it would have gotten 40MPG. Where it all comes down to, is get an I4 turbo car, crankshaft parallel with the wheel axis (~1.7 liter for sedans, 2.0 liter for mini vans and SUVs), fuel injected, with tall gears, make sure your tires are pumped up to at least 35PSI, and you get good gas mileage.
Those EcoBoost engines only get you good gas mileage on the highway if the rpms stay low enough that the turbos don’t get too spooled up. If the turbo is blowing more air into the engine, it’s using more fuel so that the combustion isn’t too lean. Also General Motor’s 6.2L V8, which has more power, is also rated for 23 mpg highway because it also uses the 10 speed auto and has active grill shutters for decreased drag and cylinder deactivation. Downsized turbo engines get a bit more credit than they deserve vs their naturally aspirated competitors, especially EcoBoost
I believe it is a twin scroll turbo not a twin turbo. Also, after 30,000 miles, you have to rebuild the heads on these ecoboost engines due to direct injection valve coking.
This is total nonsense. While carbon build up WAS an issue on the original eco boost (ours went way over 30k with zero issue), the new eco boost has both port and direct injection that switches depending on engine warm up etc. It also allows you to run fuel cleaners in them to clean any carbon
Ford may have put port injectors on in addition to the direct injectors. The older EcoBoost engines were prone to carbon buildup problems (as are ALL gasoline direct injection engines, especially the turbocharged ones). Now you are saying that by adding a second set of fuel injectors running a different fuel pressure from the first (two fuel plumbing systems), and the associated second set of wires to the injectors, and more complex ECU/PCM to control it all, the vehicle will be more reliable? The second set of injectors do help to clean the intake passages and intake valves. How many ways can having 12 fuel injectors on a V6 running two different fuel pressures (6 insanely high & 6 slightly high) go wrong? Added complexity = better reliability. If you believe that, I have some ocean-front property to sell you in Tennessee.
Had a 2001 Expedition it was a good car, 255,000 miles on it when I sold it & still ran great. Mine was a 4×4 & we would drive it out on the beach. "Outer Banks here in N.C." Great fishing truck.
No Slane. That one pre-dated the Carryall Suburban. It was a pickup with a wood body. Suburban was purpose built to haul eight and everything they needed.
Swath diver GM has had cylinder deactivation since forever so why wouldn't they do well? It was a huge embarrassment in 1981 but like many of GMs embarrassments it did eventually pay off.
I do believe it scotty. Mostly because its the exact same 23 mpg highway mileage you get from a Chevy Suburban, but with one difference. Chevy still has a rock solid N/A V8 under the hood.
On our family vacations we would take our 03 Expedition 4 wheeling near Moab and once in the Rockies. I remember we got to the top of this one pass in the middle of nowhere and looked down. There was a rolled jeep way down at the bottom. Watching an Expedition with a Packasport on top climb up a very steep wet rock slope by placing the wheels in specific spots is pretty interesting (and terrifying to watch). You wouldn't think something that big could do it.
As you go north, the 4WD option becomes popular for dealing with driving in bad weather. I don't really go off road, but I do use the 4WD in the winter!
scotty I'm really curious as to why you are supporting this GM/Ford 10 speed transmission so much lately !!?? It's new technology which is normally never executed well in the automotive world, and coming from two companies that are known for crap transmissions So I am very curious as to why you were so confident in its performance, and reliability, I always thought you would say the opposite unless you know something we don't know? i hope u can answer this
Ford's Allison transmission has been nothing but rock solid and is widely praised. Ford has had issues with heavy duty engines but I dont recall any transmission scandal in recent times.
Hajji Daoud I heard quite a few transmission complaints with the Ford fusion, not the new one but the first gen,, And I noticed you mentioned recent years, sometimes it takes a little time I know trucks transmissions are rocksolid But they were sticking to a similar formula,, 10speed Is a big jump for them, I don't remember for making anything longer than a 6 speed or cvt so I would be a little nervous
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Scotty Kilmer are we forgetting about the Suburban?
never seen a Bronco that wasn't 4x4, and they've always had v8s in them as well. Common sense was used in this vid? Hmmm idk
Hey Scotty does ford send you they’re trucks to show case? Our ford fse and ford class room trainer have the same Michigan plates like this one🤔
Scotty Kilmer did I just catch you lying? In this video you claim your Celica gets 26 mpg, but in a previous video on why cars get worse mileage as they get older, you claim your Celica gets 28 mpg. So which one is true?
My first car was a 1947 Willys overland wagon. That was a true suv.
Okay so this video talks about the Ford Expedition but has a thumbnail of the Ford Explorer???
Kylemag113 I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed
Kylemag113 he’s old 😂.
Lol I was thinking the same thing.
People like you complain about everything, man is giving you free knowledge yet you still find ways to moan and groan
Me too
You get these videos out faster than pancakes at IHOP.
*IHOB
He may have his kids working for him doing video production
**Burgers at IHOB**
electronicsNmore Ironically for me IHOP has always had really slow service. Once waited an hour and half for my food once.
I need a medium rare burger, oh wait....
I drive a lot of them for work and they are amazing! They ride like clouds and you feel like a king while driving them.
Scotty is the most informative, hilarious, automotive specialist I've ever seen. Killin' it!
The OJ reference. hahaha. Love ya, Scotty! Now if you could only make it easy to post a question on your website I'd love you even more!
I keep seeing stuff on a new Bronco. Kinda hope they do a O.J.edition. With a set of gloves in the glove box.
Not Ford's most proud moment
Brian Burke c
@will edwards i was thinking the same thing lol
It’s like driving a living room on a highway.
Which is kind of the point,🤔I suppose.
But can you imagine what riding around in Navigator must be like?
@@blairbrown4812 About the same lol
Your videos are so satisfying to watch. Thanks Scotty
I still have my 99 explorer Eddie Bauer with a 5.0 v8 257,000 miles and still running like a champ
chad harmon
My brother has a 98 but with v6 4.0 and 240k miles, it might have lost a few ponies and gas mileage but still runs.
Exploder's just a matter of time
El Chorizero that 5.0 of mine still gets 19 sometimes 20 mph on highway but no I'm not gonna drag race nobody lol
Ricardo you misunderstood, he meant 15 major repairs.
Does it have the cracked tailgate panel ? or is that on later models, lol
Lol the images he adds good content man
The Chevrolet Suburban was the first US made SUV starting in 1935, and it's still being made today.
Michael Sullivan I'm going to disagree. Willys had true 4x4 versions going back to WW2. GM certainly did produce the Suburbans in the 1930s but it wasn't a 4x4 platform until the late 1950s. Ultimately it all depends on what your definition of a SUV is. If a high wheelbase wagon = SUV, GM. If a 4x4 high wheelbase wagon = SUV, Willys.
David Regan suburbans werent made for super off roading. They were meant to haul anything for a very very very long time to most places
David Regan. I would go with the first definition. Simply because I don't think it needs to be 4WD to be an SUV. If it did then Sport Terrain Vehicle seems a more accurate description .
Same technology to
I believe my uncle had an early 50's 4x4 chevy panel van when I was a kid, It looked way more like an SUV than a van, Hmm, then there's the old beer wagons, hmm, then there's the wooden wagon, desert schooner....
How else are we supposed to get 100 rolls of toilet paper home from Costco? Hehe.
I use water
Ed Morales
Is that for you or the truck
Scotty is spot on about Ford's 10-speed transmission. I just bought a Mustang GT which makes 460HP and has this transmission. I just took my first 40-mile trip with it, which had city and highway driving. I averaged 25 mpg.
Thanks Scotty,I got my 07 expedition RSC,2 years ago,love it so much when the timing jumped on it last year,instead of getting another one,I got a brand new ,warantise v8 triton put in at my local Ford dealer ,keeping it forever .
A few things here :
1. GM’s had the Suburban since 1935.
2. Jeep came out with the Wagoneer in 1962.
3. International had the Scout
4. Ford wouldn’t have made the Bronco on the F-series platform if not for the Chevy K-5 Blazer.
5. There wouldn’t have been the “game-changing” Ford Explorer if not for the Jeep Cherokee, which in itself was a response to the Chevrolet/GMC S-10 Blazer/S-15 Jimmy.
None of this matters, Scotty is getting paid by Ford to lie for them.
1. The suburban was a panel wagon/station wagon from the 30s to the 70s
2. The jeep wagoneer, was classified as a station wagon, hence the name
3. You have a point there, but the Scout was barebones and didn't have a legacy.
4. The Bronco predated the k5 blazer so that is irrelevant.
5. The Explorer was vastly superior to every other SUV on the market at the time.
Just face it, the Bronco was the closest thing to a modern SUV in the 60s
Kale Baldwin right
The Scout predates the Bronco by 5 years and was very popular on farms and the field. Why do you think Ford finally jumped on the idea?
Yeah, I had a 1978 Bronco, great in its day. 12 mpg highway, 8 mpg around town.
thats horrible
@@accelerator5524 Yes. That's one vehicle, if I could get it back, I wouldn't.
@@kevinlilly4283 ok:P
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Ha that made me laugh out loud!!
Thomas Cowell I wonder how he would ship the car if he actually did that!
😀😀😀
that's funny as hell!! Very creative.
I wish
My wife and I bought a new Ford Excursion 4X4 7.3 Diesel, when they came out new in 2000. It was billed as "The largest SUV on the planet" by Ford. A title it still holds. With 190,000 miles (30,000 of which was towing a TT) it still runs and drives LIKE NEW!
I take my 1st gen off road all the time. Too bad the new ones couldn't climb a pebble due to epa restrictions (ride height/ body line for gas mileage). I actually find mine quite useful. I removed the 3rd row seat so I can use it for work. It's funny to see people stare it down when I'm pulling a 8,000lb load behind it meanwhile their Chevy 2500 or whatever is pulling two little jet ski's. Has the 5.4L, Awd, mid gears, 4r100 trans, and heavy duty coilovers in the back set up for towing, use to have air ride.
I got one of these a few weeks ago, and it is an astounding vehicle. And you didn't even get into the towing capabilities, Scotty! This sucker can pull 9000 pounds.
I love the Expedition. My '97 model lasted for 17 years before it needed serious maintenance. We bought the '15 model when it came out, and it's awesome! The '18 sounds like a greater improvement, but I am not ready to trade in my '15 yet. My wife wants the '18 now. We'll see. Love the video!
Have you got the 18 ?
@@guillermoloredo2057 I've redirected my wife's attention to a new Mustang instead. We have an 06 Mustang; so, upgrading that first is more prudent. Plus, she doesn't like to drive the Expedition; but loves riding in it. My 15 Expedition is still in great shape. I may hold on to it for another 5-10 yrs before upgrading to whatever the latest Expedition model will be.
@YourTypical Asian I never looked into the Bronco. I hate the way it looks. It looks like a cross between Range Rover and Jeep. I wish they had kept the prototype design. It looked more like the classic Bronco with modern features.
YourTypical Asian it’s not ugly. I just don’t think the design is original or at least the features aren’t reminiscent of the old Bronco. Like a Mustang will always have a feature similar to the original 60’s Mustang that will let you know it’s a Mustang at a glance.
Hey Scotty, I still own and run my 2001 Ford Expedition (5.7L) from when I bought it new. Still lovin' it. It has to be one of the best vehicles I have ever owned. I also have had it off road too. Over boulders in the Smokey Mountains (ask my family about that time), locally going up and down mud slick rocky trails in 4WD (it has both HI and LOW gearing and the complete off road package, crush plates, etc). It is even more fun in the snow if you can imagine 2 1/2 tons (tonnes) of truck just about equally weighted over 4 wheels, it literally cannot be stopped. Just smile at everyone as you go by and sometimes stop to get someone going again. Really impressed with that gas mileage too. Mine only gets about 16mpg highway.
Yours don’t have a 5.7L engine. It’s a 5.4L 330ci modular triton v8. Or they are avail with 4.6L. Unless you’ve done a 350 swap with Chevrolet engine which is unlikely.
How economical will it be after the seals in the turbos blow, or a clutch pack or planetary gear in the overly-complex transmission fails?
Walter Tomaszewski your entire savings !! That's how economical is going to get. .. 💸💸💸
Lol if it was the exact same thing but with a mercedes or bmw logo in it he would be rambling on about how unreliable it is
You're not supposed to fix modern vehicles ya throw em away and buy new! 😉
You can bet they aren't engineered to be worked on!
Well said! And they will fail.
My 2015.5 suburban averages 26mpg
4wd always useful in the snow, and nothing beats it's giant v8! Wish it was louder though. And Chevy has made the suburban for over 80 years now, that's the first SUV, not ford
Chevy has impressively efficient V8s. I am a Ford guy but have a lot of respect for the Chevy V8.
Mine only has the 6 speed, it was before the 10 speed came out
Yea I have the 2018 5.0L V8, I get around 24 MPG-E (equivalent because I use E85) unfortunately it seems Ford may be abandoning the Coyote which is sad as it is my favorite engine.
I call BS on the 26mpg...sorry dude.
my neighbor and his dad bought 2 new fords in 2015 . The dad bought a Lincoln Navigator and the son bought the Expedition. The Expedition would leave the family on the road, no start.Then about 8 months later the dads did the same thing.The dealers did not know what the problem was. They went out and bought each a new GMC Yukon , no problems after that.
I wonder how maintenance on these engines plays out.
It's impossible to repair cars these days, i mean, u can change a wheel, maybe a suspension, but not even that anymore, i mean, Audi's lift them self up and down to prevent crashes or give u more comfort, cars these days are made for rich people that have enough money to maintain them ...
@@fatboy19831 Nope. They are all the same. No one is special these days.
SDD525 So a 4 liter German one is way cheaper you say? Did we just slip into an alternate dimension where size of engine equates to maintenance costs and also which way is the Stargate from here?
SDD525 Maybe, but generally from what I've seen the more Horsepower per Liter a motor makes, the shorter its lifespan.
So you've owned a Mini Pooper too? :)
Nothing like working 15 hours and coming home to a Scott Kilmer video.
I have a Ford Excursion for when we want to take trips and get 12 miles per gallon. But then I have a minivan for when I want to get 30 miles per gallon 😂😂😂
I bet is an Odyssey.
Ricardo bet is v10
I have a 1998 Ford Expedition that gets about 13 MPG combined with the 4.7 liter V8 for work and a 2010 Honda Odyssey that gets about 25 MPG which my wife drives. So I went and bought at 2000 Honda Civic ex Coupe for the days when I don't have to haul anything or drop off the kids and that little thing gets almost 35 miles per gallon. Best 1800 bucks I've spent in a long time :D
my diesel excursion get 22 mpg on highway and way more torque than that expedition its also way bigger. You can only dream of getting to 200k miles out of twinturbo
Strict: and there you have it: while you may save in fuel economy you lose out on longevity. There's all sorts of issues with the eco boost engines and they aren't even out of warranty yet.
I've a 2020 Expedition MAX. Yes, it's ginormous. Yes it handles like an oil tanker. But I'm very satisfied with it. Fits the 5 of us very comfortably. Towed a car trailer and a car like it wasn't there. Handles the snow like it wasn't there.
In 63 they had a Jeep Wagoneer
The International Harvester Scout is an off-road vehicle produced by International Harvester from 1961 to 1980.
And Land Rover had a hardtop model as early as 1947.
Willy's Wagon
was it 4wd?
Yea Scotty is not a reliable source
Your best video yet Scotty and it's nice to see you say good things about an American vehicle
Most of these huge suv’s never go off road or tow. A mini van makes sense over this. But most buyers are to insecure to get a mini van. So pathetic
just buy an fx4 Expedition this one obviously isnt equipped for off road its RWD i wouldnt off road a RWD pickup either.
SUVS are more comfy and useful,I spent most of my life in minivans as a passenger and suvs are a VAST improvement for them (assuming they are physically to step in) and drivers especially in big cities can get midsize suvs like explorers,durangos or pilots and find parking more easily(not to mention driving them is more enjoy
able) that seat the same amount of people, also aesthetics minivan design is pretty trash save for the pacifica and odyssey and people want something that at least doesnt completley disgust their occulus.
Ur mom is insecure
Just got a 2010 Ford Expedition XLT a few weeks back, and really is a nice vehicle. Yeah, the 5.4 wasn’t their greatest work, but I bought it with all the timing components replaced. So far I’ve put plenty of highway and backroad miles on it, and it runs and drives like a champ! Even for a 2010 big suv, it gets 22.5 on the highway at 70 mph. It’s not the gas hog I was completely expecting!
After 2008, most of the problems that plagued the 5.4s had been dealt with.
I just cannot figure out how people can tolerate the weekly cost of filling up the tank on the giant pick ups and SUVs???!!! Going on a road trip or a weekly commute is a major expense, while the large sedans are now getting great mileage with great comfort.
Joe A get both. A truck for hauling and towing and car for mpg
I have a '96 Ford Explorer XLT, bought used 3 years ago, and aside from some minor repairs, it got me through a year of delivering pizza (before I left that crap job behind for one I drive about a half hour to get to). Minimal maintenance (because, as I said, it was a crap job and I couldn't afford the time or the money) and it never gives me any serious problems. Now that I have a bit more money coming in, and a LOT less driving, I can get more things done.
Damned dependable, got me through Tropical Storm Irma and shrugged it off like it was just another Tuesday.
The Ford Expedition was the successor of the Bronco even though I love the Bronco. I have a 2015 Expedition EL also with a 3.5L EcoBoost and I love it. I bought it used down in Miami. It's really fun to drive😁
My Explorer V8 still purrs after 15 years and 180k miles.
The 2-valve 4.6L is excellent.
Lots of torque. Rarely has to exceed 3000 rpm.
Very comfortable place to be, especially on the highway.
Happily picks up speed without downshifting. I've accidentally hit 90 before, lol!
Accelerates from a stop pretty quickly too, when you consider how big it is and how much stuff and people you can put in it.
Recently replaced the timing chains, guides, and tensioners. Which was relatively easy because they're both at the front.
(The regular 4.0 V6 models have 4 chains, one of which is on the back of the engine, and requires either the entire engine, or transmission to be taken out in order to access)
Always enjoy the videos. Not only educational but entertaining. Thanks Scotty.
Have a 2004 with 325 thousand miles on it it’s a spare vehicle now. Never had a problem with it the ride is still good. Bought my wife a 2021 last year and love the new one
I missed the statement where "why the expedition was worth 70gs"
Many cars doesn't worth thier prices , especially Ferrari's and Bugatti and other so called sports cars , but they are also want to make money
Favorite Bronco - early 80's with 300 I6, T-18 Transmission, NP205 Transfer Case, and the "Traction Lok" 8.8 Rear Differential.
Love the video scotty,keep it up
Scotty I really liked this review video! I would love to see you review more cars because you don't just talk about features and gadgets for 20 minutes but also talk about mechanics. Much love from NY
At a $51,000 starting price, this is a status symbol that will probably require premium fuel to run properly because of the turbos. Admittedly this is their nicest looking Expedition yet, But I have a minivan and it does almost everything this one does for half the price.
Exactly. Minivans are so convenient.
Enjoyed the video Scotty. This beauty man cave. Is similar to my 2003 Lincoln Navigator. I call it the NAVI cruiser. Mine looks like everything you shown. In my years with it. I removed the rear console and made it accessible walk way for the third folding row. I replaced the old air suspension for springs. Everything else works. hardly any repairs. Best car and luxury that I ever got to own free and clear since 2005. We can't seem to get tired of it. It has 113k miles in 2018 :D. Drive it in town mainly. My kids don't want me to sell her. They love cruising to restaurants and attractions as people watch the NAVI cruise by. Mileage haven't paid attention to it Guess about $75 for 3 weeks worth. Cool video Scotty.😎
This is why I like the newer cars in general. They have more horsepower AND better gas mileage. The Ecoboost lineup is amazing.
Rolling wifi hotspot too. Took our new Expedition on a long road trip with five adults and a big dog. No one complained about the ride. The "kids" got to use their gadgets the whole way too. I love driving it on the interstates.
Scotty can you make a video of which large SUV you recommend?
Expedition
Suburban
GMC
Escalade (doubt it)
Pretty sure he wouldn't include the bottom 3
@@theh2oshark32 you got that right bud.
my 2002 Ford Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke based on the 3/4 Superduty with leaf spring suspension, solid axles front and rear can get 21 MPG on the highway. And it weighs waaaay more than this and can also pull 10,000 lbs.
"This thing it's like a man-cave on wheels!" LOL so true.
OMG, A FORD EXPEDITION!!!!! OMG THANK YOU SCOTTY FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! Going to watch it at night when I get home! Greetings!
i love it when they put more "technology" crap on cars.. More to go wrong
That’s the idea
I am currently in UK and I was looking at new family cars. The thing is optioned out sedans cost £34.000 to £37.000. Well, you can pay a bit less and get a ranger pick up with the same options. The differences are that you get 4x4, 2 more cylinders and a body on frame car wit solid axles that will take ages to rust out and that keeps value like gold.
Edit: also the regular benefits of a pick up like being easier to get in and out, going over curbs without worrying, not get stuck in mud and snow and being able to tow twice as much plus being able to load the bed.
In the description of this video. the question is asked, " Is Ford reliable?" Unfortunately, no answer to that question. From my experience the answer is somewhat reliable. Less reliable than Toyota, but about as reliable as GM (which means over 100,000 with few to no problems, but watch out as you approach 200,000).
My '03 Silverado had almost 300,000 miles on it when I sold it. Engine was just tired out, but it was original as well as the transmission. I think the problem these days is the maintenance on the vehicles. For example, I always change my oil every 5,000 miles, coolant every 2 years or 25,000 miles, and drop the pan and change the filter on the transmission every 50,000 miles. I can't justify changing the oil every 7,500-10,000 miles. From what I learned from the automotive gurus over the years, the more you change your fluids, the longer the drive train is going to last. Except for one vehicle that was totaled in a car accident, every one of my vehicles that I have owned (Ford, GM, Chrysler) have lasted well over 200,000 miles before selling them. So yes, I do agree cars are less reliable these days, which is why I am more vigilant with the maintenance. I also perform all the maintenance myself, but that isn't always someone's cup of tea either.
Trucks in particular are more durable on the GM and Ford products. You will be hard pressed in the cars to do the same (get 300,000 on the original power train). However, I did own until very recently a 2006 Saab 9-3 with nearly 175,000 on it and going strong except a tree fell on it and totaled it (that is not the car's fault). So I agree, maintenance helps all around just my experience shows that for those two companies many have a hard time making it beyond 200,000 (some of my cars have lasted 300,000 but not all of them - not trucks or SUVs).
GM's are far more reliable than Ford's. At least where I live.
It depends on the engines though. Ford V8 RWD car platforms and trucks are the most likely vehicles in North America to reach 300,000 miles. Chevy Trucks and Toyota 4 cylinder cars also have similar reliability.
@@Epotheros GM trucks and SUV's are more preferable than Toyota and Nissan in the middle east now days. Especially for reliability and gas mileage.
At least Scotty didn't discourage us to buy it this time :D
The all new 2020 Explorer ST and Platinum will equip with the same 3.0L V6 engine and 10-speed transmission under the hood. Excited about this new model!
1:13 WRONG! I've got a 1969 Bronco and it came stock with a 302 V8.
This became my new favorite video of all Scotty's channel....because I love this Suv since I was seven years old.
Even in Saudi Arabia SUVs are very popular gmcs Ford's.. but the most loved one is Toyota Land cruiser.
Well yeah, gas costs 25 cents a gallon there. lol
Thank you Scotty, a great history lesson.
It is mind boggling, 26 mpg.
Wow.
They are comfortable on road trips the kids do settle in, 5 hours or longer.
Great video.
I owned a 1947 Willys overland wagon....a true SUV. It was my first car.
Dannngg! 23+ MPG in that big ole thing! Mann I gotta baby my Toyota 3.4L V6 to get 21 MPG
I used to squeeze 20MPG on the highway on my old Triton 4.6L Expedition, it was 16 mixed driving. My Tundra now can barely eek out 17MPG. It's amazing how much Ford has improved MPG on this beast.
The better gas mileage kinda negates the $65,000 price tag for these monstrosities. You can keep it. I'll take a 3 cylinder mirage 5 speed getting 56 miles per gallon highway!
Kenneth White you do that.
Kenneth White Why would you buy a Mirage ew
Mirage!? Why the hell would you do that?
There's a whole lot of options between a deathtrap mirage and that giant thing. I'll take something in between.
Kenneth White try $85k
4WD isn't just for off road my friend. In northern Michigan its a MUST in the winter. Rear wheel drive gets you nowhere.
Eddie Thrasher like wise here in Ontario. 4wd or 4x4 or you are going no where in the winter. And the AWD are junk might as well buy a fwd
The v8 was put in a bronco 10 years prior to 1978
Ford Bronco started in 1966.
GM Suburban started in 1934.
Suburban is actually the very first SUV.
I like the fuel economy but twin turbo and 10 speed when they fail there goes your savings.
I have a 1st gen expedition witha 2v 5.4, 4wd, tow package oversized chrome rims, has an awful knocking ticking exhaust manifold leak and some minor wear issues but it runs and drives great
If you thought the 2018 Expedition was nice, check out the 2018 Lincoln Navigator
perfection they’re nice but wicked expensive, a new navigator will cost at least 80-90 grand easily
Jeremy Ladue they max out at around $104K
@@flamingguy21 😳
perfection damn, one thing I heard from Scotty on his videos is that Kelly blue book is all fraud so dealers here get away with pricing this much. A new vehicle shouldn’t cost nearly that much it’s so sad
@@MrJerm200 Yeah bending over the customers with no lube 😣
First mechanic Ive seen recommending the ford ecobust engine.
...and this week we’re giving one away...!
best car and a wish car... I am a student and I have a Jeep grand Cherokee ... I wasn't sure first but now I am in love with it... big cars are perfect
Scotty the Chevy Suburban was the first American SUV.
That is not what Ford paid him to say on this.
FORD 👎
Yeah but Chevy sucks
@@jimmysapien9961 ford >>>>>Hennessey, GMC, Chrysler
Wow! Nice to hear positive things about an American vehicle for a change instead of the usual put-downs👍👍
Scotty you forgot to use a very important word when describing this big suv: UNRELIABLE !
How? I've heard good things about ecoboost
3:40 "Man-Cave on wheels" ... its true, that's exactly why I have an Expedition. I really love it. Worth every penny. I went driving yesterday in my Expedition for two hours... just cause.
Just picked up a 2018 expo limited for wife. It is amazing
I missed the part where it was worth $70k.
Scotty, look at a ford fiesta ST, gets 32-33MPG avg with 200HP; and it could have gotten 20% better, if they had the right gearing on there.
All they needed was a much taller final gear ratio, and it would have gotten 40MPG.
Where it all comes down to, is get an I4 turbo car, crankshaft parallel with the wheel axis (~1.7 liter for sedans, 2.0 liter for mini vans and SUVs), fuel injected, with tall gears, make sure your tires are pumped up to at least 35PSI, and you get good gas mileage.
You should do a review of Ford excursion because that one was a monstrosity
Monstrosity? It was a badass dependable truck that happened to get 9.8 mpg
my 94 town car gets 23-25 on the HWY, 18-19 in the city, on a long country road at 45 mph it gets 30 mpg.
And keep driving that Town Car!!! Great cars! Your car is MUCH more aerodynamic than any large SUV.
Land barge! But that highway mpg is amazing!
Chuck Iringtwice I’m getting 55 mpg also pay a lot more for fuel in Ireland
I take my 08 Eddie Bauer Expedition off road quite often. A lot of lakes in northern Saskatchewan are accessed by 4×4 trucks only.
Love the Tesla stock as the 'surprise' image!
Lucas Yup. That stock is fueled by dreams.
Jose Luis you misspelled 'tax money'
Those EcoBoost engines only get you good gas mileage on the highway if the rpms stay low enough that the turbos don’t get too spooled up. If the turbo is blowing more air into the engine, it’s using more fuel so that the combustion isn’t too lean. Also General Motor’s 6.2L V8, which has more power, is also rated for 23 mpg highway because it also uses the 10 speed auto and has active grill shutters for decreased drag and cylinder deactivation. Downsized turbo engines get a bit more credit than they deserve vs their naturally aspirated competitors, especially EcoBoost
You have to choose: Eco OR Boost. You can't have both.
Frederick Evans exactly. High revs= spooled turbo. Spooled turbo = more air. More air = more fuel. More fuel = worse gas mileage
I believe it is a twin scroll turbo not a twin turbo. Also, after 30,000 miles, you have to rebuild the heads on these ecoboost engines due to direct injection valve coking.
This is total nonsense. While carbon build up WAS an issue on the original eco boost (ours went way over 30k with zero issue), the new eco boost has both port and direct injection that switches depending on engine warm up etc. It also allows you to run fuel cleaners in them to clean any carbon
Yeah what you said is garbage. They warranty their engines 6years 60000 miles.
That is CORRECT, sir. The first Direct Injections lost gas detergent action on the valves, so they had to put port injectors back in . . . OOOPS.
Ford may have put port injectors on in addition to the direct injectors. The older EcoBoost engines were prone to carbon buildup problems (as are ALL gasoline direct injection engines, especially the turbocharged ones).
Now you are saying that by adding a second set of fuel injectors running a different fuel pressure from the first (two fuel plumbing systems), and the associated second set of wires to the injectors, and more complex ECU/PCM to control it all, the vehicle will be more reliable? The second set of injectors do help to clean the intake passages and intake valves. How many ways can having 12 fuel injectors on a V6 running two different fuel pressures (6 insanely high & 6 slightly high) go wrong?
Added complexity = better reliability. If you believe that, I have some ocean-front property to sell you in Tennessee.
grabir01 they only coke up that early if you drive them like a grandma with glaucoma.
I still have the 1st gen Expedition you pictured. 245,000 miles and going strong!
What about the chevy suburban?
That's the most reliable SUV
The Bronco was the first modern example of an SUV.
Had a 2001 Expedition it was a good car, 255,000 miles on it when I sold it & still ran great. Mine was a 4×4 & we would drive it out on the beach. "Outer Banks here in N.C." Great fishing truck.
GM introduced the Chevrolet Suburban in the 1930s and the current ones get 23 mpg with a V8; they predate the Ford SUVs by many decades.
Swath diver no
They did not look like SUV..first SUV that look like SUV was landrover
Wasn't the original Suburban designed to be a crew carrier for service workers and not a family hauler?
No Slane. That one pre-dated the Carryall Suburban. It was a pickup with a wood body. Suburban was purpose built to haul eight and everything they needed.
Swath diver GM has had cylinder deactivation since forever so why wouldn't they do well? It was a huge embarrassment in 1981 but like many of GMs embarrassments it did eventually pay off.
I do believe it scotty. Mostly because its the exact same 23 mpg highway mileage you get from a Chevy Suburban, but with one difference. Chevy still has a rock solid N/A V8 under the hood.
Good morning Scotty.....
morning!
On our family vacations we would take our 03 Expedition 4 wheeling near Moab and once in the Rockies. I remember we got to the top of this one pass in the middle of nowhere and looked down. There was a rolled jeep way down at the bottom. Watching an Expedition with a Packasport on top climb up a very steep wet rock slope by placing the wheels in specific spots is pretty interesting (and terrifying to watch). You wouldn't think something that big could do it.
Nice Explorer thumbnail for an Expedition video
Peter
this expedition car
this unintelligible comment
the best of you Scooty is a lot of info in no more than 5 minutes awesome videos !!!! love it
Giant ? Nah . It's not an Excursion . It's only a 1/2 ton , not a 3/4 ton .
As you go north, the 4WD option becomes popular for dealing with driving in bad weather. I don't really go off road, but I do use the 4WD in the winter!
“Here comes the Man in the minivan!”
Lmfao!!!!
I have over 227,000 miles on my 2007 Ford Expedition. It looks and runs like new. I tow a 31' Airstream trailer easily. Love my big SUV.
scotty I'm really curious as to why you are supporting this GM/Ford 10 speed transmission so much lately !!?? It's new technology which is normally never executed well in the automotive world, and coming from two companies that are known for crap transmissions So I am very curious as to why you were so confident in its performance, and reliability, I always thought you would say the opposite unless you know something we don't know? i hope u can answer this
Ford's Allison transmission has been nothing but rock solid and is widely praised. Ford has had issues with heavy duty engines but I dont recall any transmission scandal in recent times.
Hajji Daoud I heard quite a few transmission complaints with the Ford fusion, not the new one but the first gen,, And I noticed you mentioned recent years, sometimes it takes a little time I know trucks transmissions are rocksolid But they were sticking to a similar formula,, 10speed Is a big jump for them, I don't remember for making anything longer than a 6 speed or cvt so I would be a little nervous
If you search online the verdict of 10 speeds is still out and some fair better than others.
because $$$
Scotty pushes high gas milage as a huge bonus to ownership
Another nice video, Scotty.
Don't forget the International Harvester Scout, SUV which came out in 1961, ahead of the Bronco.