GM reveal NEW Buick Velite 6 electric sedan in China for amazing price
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- GM reveal NEW Buick Velite 6 electric sedan in China for amazing price
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In fact, this car has been out for a long time. I am the owner of the Velite 6PHEV and bought it in 2021. I have been driving it for two years now, with a fuel consumption of around 5.8L/100km, and a slightly higher fuel consumption when cruising on the high-speed 120. The official label for pure electricity can be in the form of 60km, but the actual distance is around 50km. In fact, the sales of this car in China are very poor, to the extent that it has been heavily packaged for ride hailing companies. I made the purchase at that time because BYD had to wait in line for six months to pick up the car after ordering, so I chose the Micro Blue 6phev. To be honest, I regret it a bit, but this car is not bad either. The disadvantage is that the l2b engine is too old, and the disadvantage is that the engine noise is too loud! For DMI with BYD in the same price range, the car's operating system is too primitive (compared to BYD), with a very small fuel tank of 38 liters.
By the way, the top configuration I bought at that time was 13.5w RMB.
That should be the Buick that GM sells analogous to the Bolt, for the entry point of the Buick brand. It looks better than the Bolt, and for $16,000 would sell like hotcakes, just like the Bolt is doing right now. The LFP battery pack would eliminate any of the battery fire concerns associated with the Bolt and its NMC LG batteries.
It looks much better than some of the other electric cars on the market here!! GET IT IN!!
There is a tariff on China cars since Trump days. No Chinese company gonna sell in the US will 20%+ hanging over their head 😂
@@bobdoe38 Buick is not a Chinese company
@@spacemaster5206 Doesn’t matter. Anything car imported from China has Trump tariff overhang. This is the exact reason why Tesla exports their Shanghai factory cars to Europe and not the U.S. The end result is U.S. consumers miss out on better quality Tesla, because the ones coming out of the Fremont factory is absolute shit made.
Now that you mentioned it. It’s interesting to note a lot of important parts (like battery) still come from China (CATL, BYD, etc) because even at tariff prices they are still cheaper and better than any alternative 😁
It would sell in the UK and Ireland. I think Tesla made a mistake in not introducing a hatchback version of the Model 3 in the Highland refresh. A hatch would sell better than the sedan in Britain.
Agreed, it has been a weak point of Tesla for the entire time so far. We need the old small wagon concepts like the Camry, BMW 3 series, Accord, and Corolla. My 93 Corolla wagon was one of the best cars ever. I know Europe got small & mid-size wagons for a lot longer than North America, people here all decided that stupid SUVs were necessary, despite most of them never being used in 4wd mode, and the supposed benefit to being able to see past other vehicles is gone when almost all other vehicles are also SUVs.
Great idea, the saloon body style is stupid. The Model S has a hatchback, so Tesla aren't against it per se
It’s been sold in China as an Ev for 3-years already. About a year later they introduced a hybrid version. There’s also a Chevy version with more youthful styling. It’s mainly bought by taxi fleets
It is sold in Uzbekistan for 18200 USD with sunroof. Not cheap but ok for electric vehicle of such a size.
The operative words here are ‘In China’. Absolutely no way on earth they can possibly sell it for even double that price in USA.
Care to explain WHY that is? I suspect stealerships will be part of that, US over-regulation, but what else? There is a huge difference between "can't" and "don't want to", in the case of OEMs and EVs the latter seems to be the operative mode of thought.
And if it's labor costs they could certainly assemble in Mexico where quality labor costs less than in China.
Why? If it’s super reliable, has great range, good looking and on par with a Tesla why wouldn’t US people look at it. I see no difference between buying something from China and Japan. I am shocked that they are not over here already.
@@chrisroberts3963it is all about politic. And infastructure Product wise is no probelm.
I like the traditional tactile controls and the less than enormous touch screen, seems like about the same size as the one in the Bolt. If GM can bring it to NA and sell for a reasonable price, I’ll definitely consider it for my next vehicle after my 2018 Bolt has seen its best days.
@@SunriseLAW it’s not up for replacement yet, it’s running extremely well and should for another 10 years easily. I meant *when* it is ready for replacement, as in when I feel like I’d like a new vehicle.
A reversing camera would be highly desirable in my MG4. It’s a pity it doesn’t have one.
Imagine, people used to ride without camera's for over 120 years.
@@BMWHP2modern cars have poor rear visibility due to crash safety standards. Also they're required in the US since 2012.
@@GregHassler Then, modern cars in the US are poorly build? or . . . .have poorly drivers.
I can park my car without camera's since 1970, never had to use camera's. I dont think it is the way they build cars, it is more about the way drivers use cars (or never learned how).
The MG4 comes with cameras in the top trim
@@bill_heywood I’m too poor (or mean) to lash out the extra £3,000 😂
After losing an enormous amount of money on the Bolt EV/EUV for years, it really doesn’t make any sense for GM to keep dividing its markets between China and the U.S. What’s the point of these super premium EVs for the U.S. (plus apparently a nod to cheaper EVs like the Bolt). They really need to streamline their worldwide product lines and figure this out or face bankruptcy again. Will they ever learn?
Front wheel drive does have it advantages. Cabin space and traction in snow is greatly improved. 😊
FWD has advantages with ICE cars in terms of interior space. That evaporates with BEVs. And precise control of electric motors negates all that FWD advantage in snow too.
EDIT: Reminds me of a Hyundai Ioniq.
@@ramblerandy2397 I can see that the interior space argument is valid now that I think about it but will need to look into the front wheel drive Vs rear on electric, the way I see it it is better to pull then to push when driving in snow
@@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Yes, I agree with an ICE vhicle it is absolutely better to have FWD in the event of snow - most Swedish made ICE vehicles have it, for example. But the precise control of electric motors is such that RWD is no longer at a disadvantage. Cars won't even spin out or lose traction. And I used to be a big advocate of FWD - ex-SAAB 900i and T16 owner.
@@ramblerandy2397 I had a 2021 FWD Kona EV in Canada. Front space was fine. It had "Snow mode" which removes the torque which would be bad in snow. I simply had winter tires and no issues in driving it. I think this counters all of your points.
@@ScubaSteveCanada Not sure it actually counters the points I made, but good for you. I've always liked FWD myself and considered a Kona myself. It's just that with electric motors you don't need to feel that you have less control with RWD in slippery conditions, like snow. I'll see if I can find a demonsteation video. Obviously no link because YT will remove it quickly. You'll have to type it in...
"How Does the Tesla Model 3 RWD Handle in the Snow with SNOW TIRES" [USA spelling] ? Copy and paste the words within the quotation marks only.
This is just one example. I have read around the subject. Traction control and wheel monitoring on BEVs is astounding compared to an ICE vehicle.
There is a 27.5 percent tariff on Chinese autos for importing into US. So there is no need to assemble in usa..car could be sold in usa at 19150 usd which includes the tariff and could have the same profit as China so probably it is the safety regulations difference between usa and China
UAW is getting ready to destroy GM in America, that's why they are laying people off in America. Meanwhile Tesla and Toyota are laying people off in China because they see what is happening in China.
Uh..no...no it wouldn't sell like crazy here in America... sowee🤷🏻♂️
😴💤💤💤💤 wake me up when it comes to the US at a cheap price.. till then it's all background noise
The roof line and proportions look like an MG 4.
if even easier how about they just ship them, if taht is easier. any idea what the avergae cost of shipping a car from china to north america - maybe a $1000 or $1500? I would certianly buy this at that price! A nice 5 year interim car until new tesla small EVs are in full production and widely available.
Most of GM's current ev offerings require +200 kWh battery packs which is 3 to 4 times what most other companies require per vehicle. Just like their gas guzzlers, they now have battery guzzlers. Take all their Hummer sales (vs preorders), all their Silverado sales (based on pre-orders), all their Escalade EV projections and multiply that by 3-4 and that is how many 60-80 kWh vehicles they could manufacture. Like the late 70's and 80's gas crisis which forced the world into more efficient and smaller vehicles, the change to electric means that efficiency and rare elements is again at the forefront and GM's decision to only build trucks and SUVs locks them in to a business model that doesn't fit well with the reality. An electric pick up truck for job sites makes sense due to the limited mileage and ability to use them to shuttle items on a construction site as well as provide power but they just don't work when it comes to towing or trailering long distance and as daily driver/commuter just consume resources for a vehicle that doesn't really offer and advantage over a large sadan/sportback. Ford also has the same issue to some degree and if you look at what models are successful from Tesla, China and Europe, the decision to not build cars is now showing it's frailty.
@@SunriseLAW solid state is a long shot. Tesla like AOL. Don’t make me laugh.
It looks great. Moving towards a single box design like the new Prius. The best aero design. Probably has a pretty low CD value.
If they’re better than normal electric vehicles, when are they coming to England? We need them over here!!
great idea for many to produce "Car Kits"- have you seen the Luvy?? Even sending them by boat would be an option??
U R wrong. FRONT WHEEL DRIVE IS BETTER THAN REAR. ESPECIALLY IN WINTER 😅
Is SAIC builts this?
GM and the rest of the US car market have no interest in making inexpensive cars anymore. The lower tier of cars for most people in the US is now Used cars, not new. New cars going forward are for the rich or well-off middle class. This is the new business model going forward for the next 20 years at least in the US. Everything points to this being fact- new trim levels going up, technology being necessary by supply and demand, factories being slowed down or stopped to decrease production and keep prices high, etc etc. The US car market is ruled by the dealer business model who own the politicians and dealers are demanding high Trim levels and expensive cars with huge profits. Cheap Chinese cars will not be coming to the US anytime soon whether as built or in kit form.
You are right the lack of low price new vehicles keeps the sale price of used cars higher and dealer margins up.
Charging speed means almost nothing to those who don't take long trips. If they have home (overnight) chargers, they won't care at all. That IS an amazing value, and it WOULD sell "like hotcakes" in the U.S. at 25 K.
Legacy auto is simply not interested in selling EVs in the US. They are losing big dollars while competing against themselves AND eliminating an ICE sale with each EV sold. With no competetive EV offerings, bankruptcy and government bailouts are imminent. 😮
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Thanks so much
This is exactly why Elon says the Chinese are very scary.
Afternoon mate
cause they want to milk this market and not obsolete their current factories overnight…what’s $10,000 to them in this country when they have to audacity to advertise a station wagon starting at $85,000
Are crash safety standards the same in China and US?
No, China has adopted the EU standard which is more strict. The North American version of Honda accord and Camry , as well as VW Passat failed in the 25% front offset collision tests. Front bumper design had to be reinforced to pass the requirements.
Let's build it at broadmeadows or in Adelaide
Why don't they sell this in Canada? Canada doesn't have these tariffs and trade barriers. Tesla sell their China-manufactured cars here and it even qualifies for our EV rebates. (Only Model 3 qualifies for the rebates since our rebates only apply to EVs under $55k CAN.)
All of your talk of shipping things wouldn't it be great if you could buy kit cars that could be putt together by the customer at home something like the aptera I wonder how much costs it would save
Honestly it looks much better than last Prius generation
Sadly this Buick will not be available in US 😭
Why isn’t BYD over in the US? From listening to Sams videos they seem to be the closest competitor to Tesla. If they made a quality car, long range, affordable and ability to use Teslas network I bet they would sell like hotcakes over here.
BYD do have electric buses in America; they don't bother about the cars because they don't qualify for the incentives and can't compete against Tesla. Unlikely the average American even wants a Chinese vehicle and probably wouldn't sell as well as you think it would.
@@ScubaSteveCanadait all about prception. Let alone North America Charging infrustructure is crap. And the only viable one is NACS
Sweet.
Yes they should sell it here in North America - but then nobody would buy a Chevy Equinox. 😁
Even at 300km of range for that price😍😍😍
Just bring the MG4 Power to the us, give it a normal price.
To me, it looks like an upgraded Chevy Bolt. Maybe the new Bolt will look more like this, and they can make a Buick version as well. Maybe the american versions will have better charging ...who knows...
Bloody good car for the price
Struggling to make enough batteries??? Don't make those stupid Hummers. You can make 4-6 decent BEVs instead.
Probably because it won’t meet US regulatory standards such as crash tests
It is developed from Opel platform. It just the ego of the engineer in Detorit think they are better. And unifor and uaw are not helping either.
It looks good, who cares where it is made.
The countries whose economies depend on the automotive industry
Would U.S. AUTO UNIONS ALLOW YOUR IDEA? I think not…
Looks like a revamped Chevy Bolt, if not it should be. 😮
Sell it with no battery. Just a 7kwr battery so it qualifies for a tax credit. Allow people to buy add on packs later. Until then, good for driving 25mph limited on small battery. GM gets away with selling a cheaper car. and people can buy battery bank with stolen credit card and ship it to a empty warehouse
Looks half decent to me? I'm in
What's a Buick?
When Tesla sells its $25k ev , I hope GM pulls a rabbit out of its hat , because let’s be honest that Tesla is going to sell way better than the bolt in America
They could just ship them to Canada!😂
430 on cltc is nowhere near 400 in reality. You lose about 30%, so it'll be closer to 300 real world.
i see test, realy 310-350 km
I own a velite6, I usually commute 55km to and from work, a third of which I drive at 140kmph, the actual use of the car's range is around 380km, and I own the same car netizens do not speeding and even some people are able to drive 450km range.
It won't come to Europe, because GM pulled out of Europe a long time ago. If this was designed and built by a chinese manufacturer it might be slightly better than proprietary GM scrap metal, but they still have their hand in it, it's thus got to be a turd with a spray job. Seriously, I bet the chinese only buy this as a last ditch stop gap. Nobody in their right mind buys a Buick.
they don't do this because they don't want to.
Manufacturers want to profit as much as possible. That is their goal.
All manufacturers.
So each and every one of the legacy car makers are doing everything in their power to not sell affordable cars.
They may have underhanded deals with each other but in fact the core capitalist rule sets them on this path. Maximize profits.
If they were to start selling cars at fair price, affordable, then they will make less money.
So the prefer to bitch and whine and not be fair to customers and not making any cars sales instead of selling many cars for low profit.
Remember they don't need money, they are wealthy corporations so they'd rather not sell instead of altering the current pricing levels.
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A base model tesla model 3 without the roof, the leather, less power and thus smaller battery, no more cameras and thus fsd hardware would sell with same profitability as the M3SR with 30.000 usd or less (tesla list price, not considering any incentives)
A smaller tesla with this basic trim would be sold for similar profitability with 20-22.000 usd.
Tesla is the top dog in EV world, best efficiency and performance per kw.
So any of the nobodies like GM, and the rest of the legacy car makers, would need to sell a similar size and spec vehicle for at least 15% less than a tesla.
So, this velite 6 would be selling for like 15.000 usd.
They don't want that.
25.000 for this steaming pile of garbage is too much., let alone 35.000 as you suggest.
Finally: Buick the real Tesla killer.
GM is fighting back
Yeah it's refreshing to see them layoff people for "poor performance" to get ahead of the UAW trying to destroy them. An absolutely epic move would be if they "subbed out" their manufacturing in America to a "new company" and started building EVs in a red state with lower cost of living and more business friendly and build without a union like Tesla but unfortunately they will probably head towards manufacturing in Mexico, which might work well for Tesla because they have better control over their proprietary alloys and manufacturing but unfortunately I don't think GM could maintain the same quality control
Few would buy this junk car in US and Europe.
I remember when the "new Malibu" came out using a Chinese wire harness, I would see mechanics fire the parts cannon at them replacing sensors which would fix them for a little while but so would just unplugging the sensor and moving the wire harness and plugging it back in, then we got hit with the China engines that would be lucky to make it 100K. All the reputable wheel bearing manufacturers started moving manufacturing to China and they became absolute junk.
I own a lot of nice high quality stuff that was made in China but I wouldn't want a car from China.
When the Japanese first shipped cars to NA they were the same, junk. Chinna has come a long way in building cars, and today builds some of the best electric cars on the market. BYD and other manufacturers should ship their cars to the states. Even with a 27% tariff, they would still be competitive with ICE cars. In Thailand the Chinese EVs are the same price or cheaper as their ICE competition and come with all inclusive 8 year 160,000 km warranties.
Sam, you need more sleep. It's in the eyes
It wouldnt pass the regulatory requirements for safety. Different governments value life to a different degree, trying to avoid the internet police here.
Gee maybe we should build global design cars that meet the highest crash testing requirements for multiple markets.