Landscape Painting Isn’t About Landscape
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In this one, I'm talking about how painting the landscape is as much about one's personal experience as it is about the landscape itself.
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Working with mixed media using a variety of different paints. I work rapidly but build up the paintings in layers to make sketches that can be referenced in studio paintings.
Lewis Noble has lived and worked in Derbyshire since 1996. His focus lies in the physical and emotional impact of the landscape on the senses and the effect this experience has on us.
His paintings are not snapshots or photographic frozen moments but through repeated layering and eroding of the painted surface, they contain all of the time it takes to make them.
The result is a body of work that speaks to the heart of what it means to be part of the environment.
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I totally agree. For me Landscape painting is never just about painting what you see but what you feel and who you are at the time of making the painting. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks. That's one of the great things about landscape painting, that you can be as literal or abstract as you want. I try to aim somewhere in between but happy fall either side of the line as the mood takes me.
I had a wonderful landscape teacher once, he passed away about twenty years ago.
Anyhow, he was a literal artist and quite taken with oil painting and techniques of the masters.
What I noticed over the few years was that his rapid studies in watercolour, or his demos done in class in a few minutes, were breathtaking. In comparison to the stale, dated, over worked studio pieces. Where each leaf was painted on the tree and the perfection was unsettling to me.
I think the more time he had to work on a piece the more the fear crept in.
I then moved to a portrait artist who showed the same trend. Rapid work was brilliant capturing the inner beauty of the subject.
Commissioned pieces seemed overworked and flat.
My conclusion was that rapidity for the well trained artist is a technique that allows the true artist within to take over. The artist who is in love with the process and cares less for the outcome.
If it is a job then that can present issues as some of your other commenters noted.
So while I heard you discussing mood, and movement and putting yourself into the work, it also seems that speed might be a factor in what makes your work so authentic.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Thanks! Art has obviously evolved over time and what was once seen as unfinished and crude could now be seen as fresh and spontaneous. Think of Constable's sketches vs his studio canvases as an obvious example.
We are a product of our age and in a good place for creating art as all the barriers and boundaries are gone. The down side of this is that as there are no societal norms telling us what can and can't be seen as 'art', we have to take personal reasonability for what we create. Scary!
This!!! I am happy I am not the only one who noticed that! I just wanted to make a comment to the previous video I watched here, that I actually liked studies made outside more than studio pieces 🤷♀️. And I know this about myself - the best paintings I made were made very quickly. The more I work on paintings, the more "tortured" they look. Less free and dynamic. Less fresh in terms of color and shapes. The thing is I feel guilty that I don't spend more time on paintings. It should take hours to paint a professional piece, right?? 😅 Not minutes! But now that I know this about myself (and other artists as well), I try to go for these quick sessions, to get that fresh and dynamic feeling in my paintings.
I really appreciate what you're saying and personally, tend to agree. Interestingly, I'm reminded of the dichotomy in writing that is described as "showing" vs. "telling." So, expressive landscape painting functions as a kind of "showing" rather than a documentary, more literal, "telling," so to speak, of what is there in the visual atmosphere. In this way, the notion of landscape is much more permeable. Loving your channel, btw.
Thanks Carole!
@@LewisNobleArtist You're most welcome :-)
Found this video ...and you, just when I really needed a reminder about why I want to paint landscapes. Pretty new to painting and have got bogged down with technique and detail so that the joy I felt tramping over the moors was lost when I gazed at my photos and wondered where on earth to start. The finished results were often decidedly joyless... I feel inspired again. Thank you!!
Thanks! You have to remember to enjoy yourself when painting, not always easy though. I'm actually trying to make an online course about how to work creatively using photos as source material. Hopefully I'll get it done one day.
@@LewisNobleArtist please do! I think a lot of people would enjoy it and really benefit! Photos seem to be both a help and a hindrance.....🙄
Yes, the distinction between capturing a photographic image and a sensory awareness from a scene has always been my
personal challenge. Trying both “ways” together or apart has given me a focus to my creative process. Thanks for clarifying my approaches to painting.
Thanks for watching!
I exactly know what are you talking about! It is exactly how I express my feeling I completely painting from my own imagination of being away from my country and land😍👍
Its a very important aspect of experiencing the World - and of painting, its about what it means to be present, - we are interwoven with the living now - giving and receiving through our body-heart-mind- World -
And thats what makes it so interesting to look at Art that is made from touching, moving, feeling, .....
Thanks!
I totally agree with your comments . As an artist ,teacher I do plienair in groups with colleagues or pupils . Personally I find the act of landscaping a form of meditation.
This is so true ! Especially the longer you paint 🎨 it becomes more about your perceptions of that time and space . “Our musings are always there while we are in the mitts of laying our self bare “on the board / canvas .
thank you for sharing. i really love your abstract landscape painting, and agree with what you said that painting is about personal expression of how they respond to the "landscape"...
You're welcome!
Nice video. Only 8 minutes out of my life, well worth it. So I watched it twice. 20 minutes well spent.
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I really have to thank you Lewis. I’ve always thought of my painting as “freezing” a moment in time. I live in the midst of a forest of trees, near a pond. Although beautiful, the scenery is quite static at any moment in time, and I find it difficult to convey movement and dynamism in my work. BUT, if I shift my thinking to trying convey momentS or passages THROUGH time, then that changes everything.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for sharing those personal thoughts Lewis. For me this is a reminder to play close attention to how I'm feeling when I'm in the landscape not just what I'm seeing. I liked your idea in an earlier video about making a few notes about the weather and how I felt the day I did that sketch to remind me later when I start the painting.
Wow 🤗 Finelly i understand 🎨🥰I love landskape but i dont want paint like fotographic.. Now i understand my emotional better when i struggle to find my way🙏🏼
Great thanks!
Fascinating Lewis, thank you. If we hobby painters could keep that in mind rather than feel under pressure to produce photographic images it'd really take the pressure off!
Absolutely, you're supposed to enjoy it! The very definition of a hobby is that it's for you alone, so why try to make things other people want to see?
I think you are exactly right. I have been watching American and Australian landscape painters work and I catch myself saying to myself - I would have not done that or oh - he should have stopped earlier or I wish those edges there were softer or I would have varied the colors in this value plane- and then I think - well- it’s HIS painting, not mine. Everybody paints their own way!😂
Absolutely! Thanks for watching.
I love, love, love to hear how you think about the landscape. You have opened my eyes to see in a new way and hopefully being able to paint in a new way. Thank you so much for your thoughtful videos and brilliant paintings, Lewis! 💕🤗
Thank you!
I am so grateful to have found your video. As someone with no previous art training, I started painting watercolors a couple years ago at 60. Finding my “voice” so to speak has been a constant struggle so this video totally spoke to me. I find solace and inspiration in nature but the struggle between painting the beauty that I love and see realistically and painting something that I feel is a challenge. Being a beginning artist i struggle with creating something that is traditionally seen as “beautiful” and something that is deeply moving and interesting and perhaps, hopefully beautiful. I think I will watch this again and again. Also, I love your work. Thank you!
Thanks for watching! You have to paint for yourself otherwise what's the point?
So true. I like this video, it's short and informative and interesting. Keep them coming!
As useful as always. I was aware of the concept but as ever someone, in this case you, says it in a way that really brings it home to you. Best R
Thanks Robert.
It’s great to hear your inner process, thank you. I really enjoy your videos, and your paintings.
Im so grateful to you for making this vid. What an absolute treat!
I thought the interpretation of landscapes through form, colours and brushstrokes was interesting and emotive but your landscape experience pieces blow those abstracts out of the water. So much heart
Very kind, thank you!
I used to teach I agree completely. Ten people painting the same green apple will all produce something different. I think it is rather wonderful
Really interesting distinction between what we "see" vs. how we are feeling/responding to what we see. Thank you. Great food for thought in approaching my work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@LewisNobleArtist I find landscape the most challenging genres. This gives me an entirely new perspective. Will look at more of your videos! :D
I come to this video late but perfectly timed for me as I reach the end of the book Unique Landscape : Places and Ideas in C20th British Painting by Christopher Neve which may be quite instrumental in helping move my photographers eye further towards interpretation. I've totally enjoyed the book and was so pleased to find your corroborative video. Now to go and see what else you've uploaded. Thank you.
You're welcome, enjoy!
Thanks Lewis! I'm a new subscriber and your video's have really helped me work thru my problem with being too precious about how I work. Thank you for this channel and I will be watching what comes next!
You're welcome!
Love your philosophy & your genuine humble spirit! Terrific artwork! THANK YOU.
Thank you kindly!
Personal expression of feelings over what we see using different media and techniques = making art? Excellent thought. Your words have successfully relayed abstract thought that invigorates. Thank you.
There's no right or wrongs though. You just have to try and work towards where you want to be. Thanks for watching
Very interesting topic, well presented. I love the sentence about where an individual places themselves on the spectrum between realism and pure abstraction. Food for thought
Food for thought is exactly the point. Thanks for watching!
This video is so amazing! I appreciate the philosophical point of view. It’s so simple yet complex to most. Be well ❤️
I just found you.on Utube,I really like your style and work. Will continue watching
Thanks!
So interesting. I've been learning how to paint abstract and doing quick sketches the way you've demonstrated. It's helped me so much and now I love the process and am not caught up in the result as much as I was. 😁
Glad it was helpful!
Very well said! Just what I needed to here. I am a plein air painter who has been diving into abstracting my paintings, and I’ve thinking about how to apply it to my outdoor painting. Thank you!
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your most wise words! I think exactly the same and that's is what makes us unique because each painting is like a piece of our diary and also of us.
Thank you! Makes a lot of sense.. it’s something I’ve known or been very aware of and especially that I don’t paint in a expressive style of my own. I end up painting as I see landscapes, but want to be more expressive if that’s the word for what you’re talking about!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Lewis. Thank you so much for this really helpful video. I often get stuck when I am just about to start a painting and find that I am quite tight in the beginning. Although half Cornish, I live in Wiltshire and all my work and passion centres around the Cornish land/seascape and all the emotion that evokes. Because I am not able to visit Cornwall as often as I would like, to inspire me I sometimes use photos that I have taken and occasionally I will watch an online video to capture the atmosphere and personality of the sea and landscape (but it's not the same)!
Your video has reminded me that, as well as using memories and emotions about a place or a subject matter, I really should go out with my sketchbook anyway and just draw even if it is in Wiltshire. It's a lovely county, but for me nothing matches the roar of the ocean, the crunch of the seaweed, the sound of the gulls and the busyness of harbour life.
I am really looking forward to your course in Coverack next April . Thank you for being so inspiring. Bee
Hi thanks for your message. I'm looking forward to Cornwall too, it was supposed to March this year! See you there.
Lewis a great talk !!!! Thank you ☘️
You're welcome!
Super valuable discussion. As artists many of us struggle to find our voice, to say what we are feeling through our art. Just found your channel recently. So inspired I signed up for your fall workshop. I’m psyched to continue the creative journey!
Great! Thank you.
This is where I've landed in my journey. It's a complete mind set shift. Looking forward to your October course.
Thanks Lewis, really good to hear and it’s definitely what I’m working towards. Forgot to say that I found the mentoring session really helpful and it’s really helped me to progress things 👍
Thanks Claire, I'm pleased I was of help!
Ive been pretty much painting plein air every weekend for two years and Im painting more what I feel not what I see🎨
Brilliant as always. Its taken me years to fully understand this and you explain it so succinctly.
Great, thanks for watching!
I guess we all have our own way in which we filter the world around us - I'm certainly grateful for the way I hope mine influences me. For instance, in Aotearoa we Maori have "pepeha" or tribal sayings/mottos that briefly but importantly introduce us to others firstly in relationship to the whenua of our ancestors, naming important landmarks and boundaries like mountains, rivers, lakes and coastlines. We look to the our countless historical sites, their origin stories & the events that have shaped and impacted the landscape - and therefore our people too - in pre and post colonial New Zealand. From our traditional daily practices to the rich resources of our myths and legends, the importance of the environment has always been paramount to us. So the landscape for me here is neither static nor is it just one thing - it's many things depending on the way I choose to see it or the way it feels on any given day. Kia ora Lewis and nga mihi (thanks) for your amazing channel. I only wish I'd found you sooner but in the last few days I've been bingeing as many of your posts as possible & I'm learning so much.
Sorry can't see the end of your comment but that sound amazing. Thanks for watching
@@LewisNobleArtistKia ora Lewis! Sorry - I don't know why the last part of my "korero" or discussion disappeared but it's there now in its entirety if you're interested. Apologies too for how I ramble on but in a short time you've had a truly profound effect on me and I can't thank you enough.
Another great video thank you Lewis. Love watching you paint and love listening to you 'ramble' (which you don't...) Cheers, Deb NZ
Glad you enjoyed it
Perfect…. Needed to hear this….particularly as I shall be starting you on line course next week ( 2022) ….so helpful!
Lovely to hear your ideas,
Yes food for thought. I was planning to to go out today to see what I can find. I will take what you said with me. Thank you. PS come across you by accident
Thanks so much. As someone who is still searching for how to see as I paint, I find this very helpful. I am learning many techniques which are very helpful, but it is this area of figuring out what to paint and why I want to paint it in a scene that is where I find both much of my interest as well as much of my confusion. How exciting it is to be exploring my own way of seeing to speak something in image that is true.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for these thoughts, very timely and helpful. I'm excited for my next plein air day-
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Lewis. I’m moving more towards abstract experimentation and this really helps with the thinking and “telling a story” with my work. Would love to see you include tips on coming up with titles for paintings as find that to be just as challenging once I actually finish something I feel is successful.
Thank YOU MUCH for Bringing Your Experiences to the Public Platform. From Cape Town.
You're welcome!
Thank you very much. You are a very good teacher and artist!
Thank you very much!
So useful, it makes total sense to me. Thank you, gives me confidence in my own feelings re my own art.
Love your work and also instruction
Thanks!
great video, just helped to clarify my thoughts,thanks Lewis
Glad it helped!
Great videos. Very inspirational. Have always painted very literal landscapes. This is much more fun!!
I know. It's not a crime to enjoy yourself! Good results follow a positive experience.
My thanks love your honest relaxed approach Lewis get lots of ideas, thoughts for progress from your site
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I am new to painting and did a sketch, in pencil but when it came to colouring it I realised i could do anything and it didn't have to be literal , when i look at artists a lot of them make things up .
Thank you; this is the best explanation of where I have been wanting to go with painting outside
Glad it was helpful!
An art teacher of mine used to say, "If you paint your dog, the painting really is not about how much you love your puppy" but he took it in a bit different direction and said it's really about the plastic elemets of art; point, line, shape, form, color, value, etc., etc., which allowed him to explain how that, measured by those things, abstract art has the same value as photo realism. I think your point of view is similar, tho more related to emotional expression of visual things.
Misquoting Alberto Giacometti who said he didn't want to copy reality but wanted to make something which was as real as reality. I quite like this because all art is a representation of how we perceive reality and heavily filtered by our individual choices. I include photographic art in this BTW. Thanks for watching!
Thank you Lewis for this helpful and interesting sharing.
Great video Lewis. Just wish I could get my feelings out on my canvas/paper like you do 😜
Hi
Thanks Louise, always helpful!
Happy to help!
Thanks Louis - very helpful and as always totally enjoyable.
Richard
Very welcome
Thought provoking content, thank you Lewis
Thanks!
Thank you. I just adore you and your work.
Thank you so much!
Very helpful. Thank you.
This needs to be said time and again. 🙏🏼
Thanks!
Thank you Lewis - very helpful.
You’re welcome!
Very useful. Thank you for your time.
You’re welcome!
Thanks Lewis. I learn something new every time I watch/listen to you. Keep them coming!
Kind of you to say :)
Baring our artistic soul to the world.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you! You expressed beautifully what is sometimes very hard (at least for me) to put into words. I totally agree with you. Regards from México
Thank you!
Absolutely!
Love your 'rambling' John Lewis
I know I witter on a n bit. I should probably write things down beforehand but I'm too lazy!
Expressing how you feel about a subject is fine when one paints for oneself. But art schools that encourage all the fee-feez, to let it all hang out--are doing artists a disservice. A balance must be found if one is marketing art to other people. The odds of that one person who recognizes himself/herself in your painting are MINISCULE. Eternal universal truths communicated through art is why the greats are great. Your transcription of what you felt is fine--go for it. Feel it all. But truly great art speaks to the commonalities among us.
I understand where you're coming from but if you can't paint for yourself then how can anyone else be expected to like what you do? If all you want is commercial success there are easier ways to make a living.
If you're looking for 'eternal truths' then you have a long road ahead. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't strive for greatness & settle for second best, of course you need to be rigorous and challenge yourself.
However in my experience as a professional artist for 30 years, my best works are the ones that are the most personal and most 'me'. They are also the most commercially successful and that resonate with the most people.
They're only TH-cam videos and I can only talk from my own experience.
Take care.
Beautiful 🌹
Thank you!
@@LewisNobleArtist you’re welcome!
Wonderful. Thank you and no you weren't rambling.
Thank you! 😊
very good. I often ask myself what is a good landscape painting. I like semi abstract but it always ends up being like the photograph. I will do more charcoal and plain air after watching your video.
It's an endless question. I love abstract and figurative painting. No need to choose though, I just go in whichever direction feels right at the time. Thanks!
New subscriber. Thank you for this
You're welcome
All he said is true. But it's also true that a realistic painter is still making a personal statement in his choice of subject, how he framed his subject and the actual treatment of his technique. It's slightly less obvious than a specifically 'abstract' treatment but it's still there.
I completely agree. Thanks
thanks! great insight - i have tried a few of your other videos - same level - you are a great teacher with something worth learning from (complete aside - what is the jacket you are wearing? lol)
Thanks for watching!
thank you so much!
You’re welcome
Thanks for this. I like working in abstraction but always find it difficult to start from nothing concrete. Watching your videos has got me thinking about getting out and sketching, and I'm wondering what your sketching kit consists of when you go out? Charcoal is a good starting point but can you say what other materials and tools you take with you?
Thanks! Try this video about my materials. th-cam.com/video/9NsemBBfZTk/w-d-xo.html
@@LewisNobleArtist thank you
Do we have to gesso a watercolor paper for acrylic painting or should we skip it? Thank you in advance. Your paintings are amazing
Thanks. I don't tend to use W/C paper for acrylic as I find it too absorbent. I have done in the past and priming it does help. Always seems a shame to prime such nice paper though! I use heavy cartridge paper un primed. 220gsm
@@LewisNobleArtist thank you so much for your kind reply. You're always so patient when explaining or teaching something. It truly means a lot. God bless. Have a great day
You have to give students guiding posts before you set them free. Yes painting is all about each one of us but getting to the point where one can be brave enough to be their full self requires time and a bit of training.
You made me wonder if one would be more expressive if one didn’t really look at the paper and focused on the view/ landscape and made marks expressing what one is seeing ? Thus not being distracted by whether it’s a good painting or not. Just reacting to how you are experiencing being in that landscape?
Hi, was wondering how you seal your marks when you work on paper?
I don't usually need to. These would go under glass anyway.
Thanks for this you have added something to my understanding of 'developing your own style' - how you see a scene is personal and so different to each of us. Other senses and feelings involved than just sight!
Thanks, it's all about the experience. Next time you're outside just think about how little of the experience is actually visual. Thanks for watching!
What discussion? It's a monologue 😼
very good but very hard to do.
Apologies from spelling your name incorrectly!
No problem. Gave my daughter a good laugh!
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Hmm, very interesting, brilliant .
Glad you enjoyed it
Interesting
Hi Lewis - have you heard the term 'inscape'? Might be of interest: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inscape_(visual_art)
Super interesting subject. BUT... it would've been so much stronger if you could have showed those paintings of your students. Now I am not sure if you are trying to sell me this concept. Or sell me your art (sorry). Interesting idea though.
PS subscribing anyway ;-)
Maybe so. Not trying to sell you a concept in these videos, just talking about how I approach my own work. Thanks for watching and subbing.
@@LewisNobleArtist thanks for your reply and for putting in the time and work to share. Despite coming from a different side of painting I take away a lot from these videos. Big thumbs up!
I do not like to watch a video that is all talking.
Horses for courses....just click off, no need to comment about it.
Too bad you never get to see this mans' work. Just talk, talk about paintings with him giving a glimpse of it in some book flopping about. I thought these videos would be about SHOWING art. Why do people paint if all they want to do really is talj?
This video is specifically about a subject. It’s one of the few I’ve made where I’m not painting.