Small tip: If you previously owned any dyson product and you register it through their website .. dyson offers ‘owners reward’ which gives you 20% discount. I recently purchased the v11 animal for 599 total $649 after tax at Target not knowing the new v11 outsize came out. I returned the v11 animal and spoke to dyson CS and offered me the outsize for $532.16 after tax. And they also gave me an extra deep clean kit for free and offered a pretty good discount for one of their new air purifiers.
@@dorothydarling413 Just tried and it was a no-go for me. I got the Owner Reward postcard in the mail for the 20% off but it says on the back that it doesn't apply to the V11 Outdrive. I still called their customer support anyway just to see what they may be able to offer and the rep told me this model doesn't qualify for the discount. I have (2) V8 Animals, (1) V7 Animal Pro, (1) Dyson Ball Animal 2 and the Dyson Supersonic hairdryer. Needless to say, I drank the Dyson Kool-aid. But, I vacuum every day and was tired of the battery running out on the V8 so was going to upgrade to the V11 Outdrive, only if I could get the discount. Since they said no, I ordered the LG CordZero Kompressor instead (was already considering it as option B) which seems to be really comparable, has great reviews and currently is $200 cheaper ($599 normally $699) than the Dyson if purchased at Best Buy. Oh well, guess they missed out on that purchase, not that they're hurting for my money anyway.
the battery option seems really nice, batterys over time die and lose power and strength, and you have have a bad battery so being able to change it out is super nice, i think the outsize is the best one
Theres one more v11 but its probably not available in your country. Its called the Dyson V11 Absolute. It comes with a special hard floor brush. So if you want a hard floor dyson cordless vacuum. And you live in the uk. Get the absolute.
Thanks for your review!! I almost got the animal but decided on the outsize after watching your video. I currently have the v8 and some of the things that bug me about it seem to be solved with the outsize including BATTERY LIFE. My v8 takes forever to charge so I’m excited to upgrade, so thank you!!
You're very welcome! I'm glad to hear our comparison was able to help! I don't think you'll be disappointed with the Outsize. It's a beast of a machine.
Thanks very much! Yeah, that would defintely be a nice addition. I took a quick look and I don't see any 3rd party sellers offering that either. The closest is a flexible hose - amzn.to/2yxjlUl - but I don't think that's what you had in mind.
We generally use closed gate on high pile carpets as that creates the best suction, due to the better seal it creates. However, opening the gates would have helped with the larger debris.
Only the V11 Outsize has clickable batteries. So while you could buy extra batteries, you would need to unscrew them from the handle to insert them in the V11 Torque Drive and Animal As for the other accessories, yes, those are compatible.
@@ModernCastle perfect timing since I changed my mind. saw the outsize (possibly used) for 600 - 800, on multiple sites. really good deal. Not poor or anything but dishing out 1k+, possibly after tax 1400 (it is 1220 on amazon, new) on a vacuum cleaner, on matter how high quality and all seems a bit weird. I have mor ethan enoguh to get it, but like what's the point. I'm relaly just after a vacuum with long battery life, esp. swappable batteries ( really cool feature! should be universal IMO.) and maybe atleast some accessories. I think I'll take the shot, hopefully there's a nice long warranty for the vac though. Thanks for the vid!!
Yep - that is true. Apparently they made that change in the last month or so. Within the next week or so we're going to update our Dyson content to reflect this change.
@Roman N it’s the same 185AW for Animal and Torque drive. Only outsize models have the 220AW. The click-in battery for V11 just came around Spring time 2020 and it’s a nice upgrade, you just click the button amd swap the batteries in case you have a bigger area where you need more than 1 battery.
What is the watt rating of the XL torque head? Because the v8 and v10 motorhead are rated at 50 watts while the v10 animal and above are rated at 100 watts. The rating is located on the underside of the cleaner headwhere the ball joint is
V11 Outsize - High Torque XL cleaning head is 100 watts V11 Torque Drive - High Torque cleaning head is 100 watts V10 Absolute - Torque Drive cleaning head is 100 watts V10 Absolute - Fluffy cleaning head (v10 edition) is 30 watts
Do you know if the main torque cleaner heads are interchangeable between the regular V11 vacuum and the V11 Outsize? also is the soft roller cleaner head compatible with the V11 Outsize?
Really shouldn't say "permanent battery" for the V11 Torque, because only 3 screws hold it in, and it can also be swapped out, albeit not as easy as the snap in model.
First of all, GREAT review and tips! can I just change the high torque head from the V11 Outsize and put into the V11 Animal, making the 'normal size' vacuum into a larger area cleaner?
Thank you! Yes, you can use the High Torque XL cleaning head and it will work. However, it won't be the same experience as the Outsize. Outsize still has a larger dust bin, clickable battery system, 2 batteries, and more suction power due to a larger motor. So it would sort of be like Outsize Lite
@@ghanvass Yes, to a degree. If you stick the High Torque XL clean head onto a V10 vacuum it will run, but it won't run at the same performance level as it would on a V11 Outsize. Read more about accessory compatibility here - moderncastle.com/dyson-attachment-guide/
Thanks for the wonderful detail review. I have one question: Is the wand from V11/V10/V8 fully compatible with the V11 Outsize's body even when power tool like fluffy head and V11 Torque Drive is attached to it? I see that the original V11 wand is longer which is fine for me.
@@ModernCastle Thank you for your quick reply Derek. Just wondering, how does it feel using the original wand with the Outsize since it is longer than the Outsize wand?
I guess in the US, We got the short end of the stick. The display of the animal in the UK is the display of the absolute. The animal here has a more simple display. Furthermore, the absolute here does not come with the soft roller, there is no soft roller for any model here is the US. It does not hurt that the owner of Dyson is English, but Apple for instance does not do that , to the world. It is a great product, but I don’t like when companies undermine the costumers and America is their number one buyer in the world.
Indeed. It seems to me that Dyson thinks their new multi-surface High Torque XL brushrolls are a full replacement (their design is certainly an improvement over the heads from older V-series vacuums). With such a good brushroll on multi-surface they may be trying to keep the price lower by excluding that head. But...that's just a guess. In any case, I do still really like the soft roller head.
I think it depends on where it is sold. In Asia, Dyson has a Floffy head model and a Floffy + Torque head model but I do see most stores carry only the Floffy head model. Due to the high humidity and temperature most Asia families will not have carpet flooring at all but concrete, ceramic or laminate flooring since it retain more heat, dust and humidity. Most of the household will have a few patches of carpet/plastic matts at the entrance of doors throughout the house only. Even with a Floffy head model I found it frustrating using it when it comes to a few patches of carpet or plastic floor matts I have to deal with when I live in Asia and ends up just thronging the carpet matts into the washing machine while I vacuum the ceramic flooring throughout the house in which it does an excellent job . In North American, it is pretty well a standard that a house or condo/apartment will come standard with carpet flooring with option to upgrade to ceramic or hardwood flooring. Having a long hair german shepherd I do find the Floffy head on V11 does a better job cleaning the hair and outdoor dust ;however, it drives me mad when it comes to cleaning the Floffy head itself. It tangles a lot of hair around the spinning and the small drive wheels and requires a lot of time to clean them off and very little time to get clogged up again. These days I ended up using the Torque drive only since it is easier to do the maintenance on it. I am interested in the oversize bin and the head since I usually have to empty the bin few times in the garage when I vacuuming so it will be more convenience while it should also cut down the vacuuming time due to the full size Torque head (not sure I needed the extra battery and charging adapter but since Dyson package it with the wand accessory clip I have very little choice on that matter). I hope Dyson will develop a tangle free heads for both the full size Torque and Floffy heads in the future.
@@Jeo-What In Australia we have Outsize and Outsize Pro that both have fluffy head and the new wider standard head. They don't come with the 2nd battery and charger though.
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Because the LCD screen displays run time and performance. Digital display shows run time countdown to the second and displays maintenance alerts, giving you complete control of your cleaning.
No In general, if it's a Motorhead, Cord Free, or other less expensive models, it will not have a HEPA filter. Absolute, Animal, Torque Drive, Outsize, and HEPA variants usually include a HEPA filter.
You think? I cannot think of any reason why any rational person would feel compelled to buy a different V11 variant if they already had one. Even the worst V11 variant is an absurdly high power vacuum. The difference between the Animal and Outsize is slight.
Modern Castle my laziness doesn’t like to swap out the stools and use the crevice tool to get in between chairs and furniture so I do these weird movements to make the roller head to fit that wouldn’t be possible with the larger size.
@@Michael-zn2jc Oh I definitely hear you. Even with all the tools available...if I can find a way to make the current head I have on the vac work, that's what I'm going to do
this was such a helpful video. short, sweet, and to the point. sums everything up perfectly.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Small tip: If you previously owned any dyson product and you register it through their website .. dyson offers ‘owners reward’ which gives you 20% discount.
I recently purchased the v11 animal for 599 total $649 after tax at Target not knowing the new v11 outsize came out. I returned the v11 animal and spoke to dyson CS and offered me the outsize for $532.16 after tax. And they also gave me an extra deep clean kit for free and offered a pretty good discount for one of their new air purifiers.
Dam how do I get that? Ih ave their V7 I got on black friday a bit late last year
Lyle S just register your v7 to the website or call customer service and let them know about owners reward.
@@dorothydarling413 Just tried and it was a no-go for me. I got the Owner Reward postcard in the mail for the 20% off but it says on the back that it doesn't apply to the V11 Outdrive. I still called their customer support anyway just to see what they may be able to offer and the rep told me this model doesn't qualify for the discount. I have (2) V8 Animals, (1) V7 Animal Pro, (1) Dyson Ball Animal 2 and the Dyson Supersonic hairdryer. Needless to say, I drank the Dyson Kool-aid. But, I vacuum every day and was tired of the battery running out on the V8 so was going to upgrade to the V11 Outdrive, only if I could get the discount. Since they said no, I ordered the LG CordZero Kompressor instead (was already considering it as option B) which seems to be really comparable, has great reviews and currently is $200 cheaper ($599 normally $699) than the Dyson if purchased at Best Buy. Oh well, guess they missed out on that purchase, not that they're hurting for my money anyway.
the battery option seems really nice, batterys over time die and lose power and strength, and you have have a bad battery so being able to change it out is super nice, i think the outsize is the best one
Theres one more v11 but its probably not available in your country.
Its called the Dyson V11 Absolute.
It comes with a special hard floor brush. So if you want a hard floor dyson cordless vacuum. And you live in the uk. Get the absolute.
Yep, Alfie is correct.
If you don't live in a country with the Torque Drive, it means you probably have the Absolute as your most high-end version.
In malta we have the dyson V 11 absolute. It comes with the soft roller too.
Great run down of the 4 models - thanks!
No problem 👍
Thanks for your review!! I almost got the animal but decided on the outsize after watching your video. I currently have the v8 and some of the things that bug me about it seem to be solved with the outsize including BATTERY LIFE. My v8 takes forever to charge so I’m excited to upgrade, so thank you!!
You're very welcome! I'm glad to hear our comparison was able to help! I don't think you'll be disappointed with the Outsize. It's a beast of a machine.
Another amazing video Derek! The outsize is definitely very strong! I only wish Dyson had a wand with an adjustable height what do you think Derek?
Thanks very much!
Yeah, that would defintely be a nice addition. I took a quick look and I don't see any 3rd party sellers offering that either.
The closest is a flexible hose - amzn.to/2yxjlUl - but I don't think that's what you had in mind.
3:17 why didn't you change the gate height?
We generally use closed gate on high pile carpets as that creates the best suction, due to the better seal it creates. However, opening the gates would have helped with the larger debris.
Is the outsize more powerful than the upright models? What about agitation?
In terms of raw suction, it is not.
In terms of cleaning power, it's very similar.
couldn't you jsut buy osme accessories/compatible batteries sepreately? I plan to get a v10/v11 sometime (def not outsize, the price tho)
Only the V11 Outsize has clickable batteries.
So while you could buy extra batteries, you would need to unscrew them from the handle to insert them in the V11 Torque Drive and Animal
As for the other accessories, yes, those are compatible.
@@ModernCastle perfect timing since I changed my mind. saw the outsize (possibly used) for 600 - 800, on multiple sites. really good deal. Not poor or anything but dishing out 1k+, possibly after tax 1400 (it is 1220 on amazon, new) on a vacuum cleaner, on matter how high quality and all seems a bit weird. I have mor ethan enoguh to get it, but like what's the point. I'm relaly just after a vacuum with long battery life, esp. swappable batteries ( really cool feature! should be universal IMO.) and maybe atleast some accessories. I think I'll take the shot, hopefully there's a nice long warranty for the vac though. Thanks for the vid!!
@@ModernCastle both V11 Animal and Torque drive now have click-in battery similar to outsize. They just updated it.
Will the wider outsize XL cleaning head fit on the V11 non outsize , Torque Drive , Animal version. same interface?
It will attach to those models, yes, but you might not good as good of a performance as the motor is not as powerful on those other versions.
FYI - Both The Dyson V11 Animal and Torque Drive now have click-in Battery similar to the Outsize. They just updated it.
Yep - that is true. Apparently they made that change in the last month or so.
Within the next week or so we're going to update our Dyson content to reflect this change.
@Roman N it’s the same 185AW for Animal and Torque drive. Only outsize models have the 220AW. The click-in battery for V11 just came around Spring time 2020 and it’s a nice upgrade, you just click the button amd swap the batteries in case you have a bigger area where you need more than 1 battery.
What is the watt rating of the XL torque head? Because the v8 and v10 motorhead are rated at 50 watts while the v10 animal and above are rated at 100 watts. The rating is located on the underside of the cleaner headwhere the ball joint is
V11 Outsize - High Torque XL cleaning head is 100 watts
V11 Torque Drive - High Torque cleaning head is 100 watts
V10 Absolute - Torque Drive cleaning head is 100 watts
V10 Absolute - Fluffy cleaning head (v10 edition) is 30 watts
Can you interchange motorheads?
Yes
Does the cleaner head on the outsize work on the original V11?
Yes
Very helpful video! Which model is comparable to V11 Cyclone Total Clean available at Costco?
Having trouble finding those model specs online, but I'm fairly sure the Total Clean is similar to the Torque Drive.
@@ModernCastle Thank you so much!
@@saimaarshad5622 You're welcome!
Do you know if the main torque cleaner heads are interchangeable between the regular V11 vacuum and the V11 Outsize? also is the soft roller cleaner head compatible with the V11 Outsize?
Yes to all of the above.
@@ModernCastle any idea where I can purchase the regular sized V11 high torque cleaner head separately by chance? to use with my V11 Outsize?
@@jya811 geni.us/v11-cleaning-head you can purchase it at this link
@@ModernCastle THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
@@jya811 You're welcome!
Is the wand shorter on the outsize?
Slightly, due to the fact that the dust bin is longer.
But the overall height is the same, about 50'
Really shouldn't say "permanent battery" for the V11 Torque, because only 3 screws hold it in, and it can also be swapped out, albeit not as easy as the snap in model.
Yeah, I guess I could have been more clear there.
Very through!! Great review!
Thanks so much!
First of all, GREAT review and tips!
can I just change the high torque head from the V11 Outsize and put into the V11 Animal, making the 'normal size' vacuum into a larger area cleaner?
Thank you!
Yes, you can use the High Torque XL cleaning head and it will work. However, it won't be the same experience as the Outsize.
Outsize still has a larger dust bin, clickable battery system, 2 batteries, and more suction power due to a larger motor.
So it would sort of be like Outsize Lite
@@ModernCastle Is the wide cleaning head compatible with the Dyson V10 vacuum?
@@ghanvass Yes, to a degree. If you stick the High Torque XL clean head onto a V10 vacuum it will run, but it won't run at the same performance level as it would on a V11 Outsize.
Read more about accessory compatibility here - moderncastle.com/dyson-attachment-guide/
Thanks for the wonderful detail review. I have one question: Is the wand from V11/V10/V8 fully compatible with the V11 Outsize's body even when power tool like fluffy head and V11 Torque Drive is attached to it? I see that the original V11 wand is longer which is fine for me.
Yes, the wand is compatible. The V7, V8, V10, and V11 all use the same quick release attachment system (the red button).
Modern Castle Don’t the wands have different wattages?
@@ModernCastle Thank you for your quick reply Derek. Just wondering, how does it feel using the original wand with the Outsize since it is longer than the Outsize wand?
@@doge8676 nope
Is there a soft roller for the out size?
David Skywalker not currently, but you can use a soft roller from the standard v11.
Not specifically for the Outsize, but you can use this one designed for the V11 Torque Drive. See here - amzn.to/2WPxJRO
Can you put a v10 v8 v7 soft/ fluffy roller on a v11 outsize?
David Skywalker yes. But I’m not sure if the v7 would fit, I believe it has a different connection type.
Yes, the V7, V8, V10, and V11 all use the same connection joint.
I guess in the US, We got the short end of the stick. The display of the animal in the UK is the display of the absolute. The animal here has a more simple display. Furthermore, the absolute here does not come with the soft roller, there is no soft roller for any model here is the US. It does not hurt that the owner of Dyson is English, but Apple for instance does not do that , to the world. It is a great product, but I don’t like when companies undermine the costumers and America is their number one buyer in the world.
That's interesting. I wasn't aware that all models in the UK had the better display.
It’s interesting that the fluffy head is absent from all variants.
Indeed.
It seems to me that Dyson thinks their new multi-surface High Torque XL brushrolls are a full replacement (their design is certainly an improvement over the heads from older V-series vacuums). With such a good brushroll on multi-surface they may be trying to keep the price lower by excluding that head.
But...that's just a guess. In any case, I do still really like the soft roller head.
I think it depends on where it is sold. In Asia, Dyson has a Floffy head model and a Floffy + Torque head model but I do see most stores carry only the Floffy head model. Due to the high humidity and temperature most Asia families will not have carpet flooring at all but concrete, ceramic or laminate flooring since it retain more heat, dust and humidity. Most of the household will have a few patches of carpet/plastic matts at the entrance of doors throughout the house only. Even with a Floffy head model I found it frustrating using it when it comes to a few patches of carpet or plastic floor matts I have to deal with when I live in Asia and ends up just thronging the carpet matts into the washing machine while I vacuum the ceramic flooring throughout the house in which it does an excellent job . In North American, it is pretty well a standard that a house or condo/apartment will come standard with carpet flooring with option to upgrade to ceramic or hardwood flooring. Having a long hair german shepherd I do find the Floffy head on V11 does a better job cleaning the hair and outdoor dust ;however, it drives me mad when it comes to cleaning the Floffy head itself. It tangles a lot of hair around the spinning and the small drive wheels and requires a lot of time to clean them off and very little time to get clogged up again. These days I ended up using the Torque drive only since it is easier to do the maintenance on it. I am interested in the oversize bin and the head since I usually have to empty the bin few times in the garage when I vacuuming so it will be more convenience while it should also cut down the vacuuming time due to the full size Torque head (not sure I needed the extra battery and charging adapter but since Dyson package it with the wand accessory clip I have very little choice on that matter). I hope Dyson will develop a tangle free heads for both the full size Torque and Floffy heads in the future.
@@Jeo-What In Australia we have Outsize and Outsize Pro that both have fluffy head and the new wider standard head. They don't come with the 2nd battery and charger though.
Adrian Olsen it seems that the absolute v11 has it.
Is the Outsize USA only?
I'm not sure if it's only the USA, but it does seem to have had a limited release (perhaps due to COVID).
The outsize is available everywhere in Australia.
I think it’s Australia and US only because those are the only 2 websites where I can find them listed.
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Buy Dyson V11 Outsize Origin - geni.us/v11-outsize-origin
Questions? Ask in the comments! I do my best to respond within 24 hours.
UPDATE 12/2/2020 - Dyson V11 Torque Drive and Animal include a click-in battery as of Q4 2020.
I have the animal it's great, I don't see why you need an LCD screen on a vacuum cleaner
Because the LCD screen displays run time and performance. Digital display shows run time countdown to the second and displays maintenance alerts, giving you complete control of your cleaning.
You must have the cleanest house...like, anywhere...
Lol, indeed. Between the cordless sticks and the robot vacuums they keep it pretty tidy.
Are all dyson hepa?
No
In general, if it's a Motorhead, Cord Free, or other less expensive models, it will not have a HEPA filter.
Absolute, Animal, Torque Drive, Outsize, and HEPA variants usually include a HEPA filter.
Thank you
@@backrack01 You're welcome
Whem v12 or v2.0 will be?
V12 likely won't launched until March 2021.
I don't expect they will do a V11 Outsize 2.0
This was very helpful
I'm glad to hear it!
Sweeper will not work on V 11 red
What do you mean exactly?
The brushroll isn't working?
Fancy way to raise unit price and sell multiple item to same individual
You think?
I cannot think of any reason why any rational person would feel compelled to buy a different V11 variant if they already had one. Even the worst V11 variant is an absurdly high power vacuum.
The difference between the Animal and Outsize is slight.
I think it may be, too big. Ironic.
Hah...maybe so. It definitely works better if you have larger spaces that need to be cleaned.
Modern Castle my laziness doesn’t like to swap out the stools and use the crevice tool to get in between chairs and furniture so I do these weird movements to make the roller head to fit that wouldn’t be possible with the larger size.
@@Michael-zn2jc Oh I definitely hear you. Even with all the tools available...if I can find a way to make the current head I have on the vac work, that's what I'm going to do
Gash, those are some stupid names.
Hah...indeed. Not sure why they stopped with their original naming convention.
holy...how skinny is this dude, better be careful around all those vacuums...