Templar Order Ideology & Philosophy Explained! - Assassin's Creed Explained Episode 50
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- May the father of understanding guide us all...
Understand the main goal behind the Templars fast!
Soundtracks:
1. Abstergo Industries - AC Revelations
2. You are a Templar - AC3
3. Order of the Ancients - AC Origins
4. Ending Ost - AC Unity Dead Kings DLC
5. Church - AC Rouge
6. Enter the Animus - AC Odyssey
7. The Sith Code - Star Wars The Old Republic
8. The Observatory - AC4
9. The Cult of Kosmos - AC Odyssey
10. Palse Paradise - AC4 Freedom Cry
11. Templar meeting - AC2
12. Templar Liar 2 - AC Brotherhood
13. (Don’t know name but it was used in the scene with Desmond giving the Apple to Warren) - AC3
14. Apple of Eden - AC3
15. From the Shadows - AC Rouge
16. Ezio Family Theme/Earth - AC2
17. Matrix Revolutions Menu Music
18. Apple Chamber - AC Brotherhood
19. Templar March
20. Pyramid Text - AC Origins DLC
No extreme is good.
The Templars believe in extreme safety. Safety is good, but when taken to the extreme it takes away your freedom.
The assassins believe in extreme freedom. Freedom is great, but when taken to the extreme people can harm you.
When being in the middle people are allowed to do as they wish, but must face the consequences of their actions. Some Assassins and Templars allude to this, most notably Ezio, as shown by this quote:
"To say that nothing is true, is to realizethat the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic."
Yes, this is beautifully explained.
So stand for the balance
Take a moment, however, to appreciate it.
Out there, beyond the borders, is freedom.
The freedom to suffer, the freedom to die.
Remain, bonded one, your yoke is light,
and your life is better for it.
@@odalfhilter6980 you remember Haytham Kenway said to Connor about the ways of templars? He said the ways of Assassins were going for the Peace, MUCH FARTHER AND GREATER than the ways of the Templars, and I don't quite understand about that please can you explain..
But assassins and templars should’ve died out in modern times just for the fact that people do face their consequences and they found a system to keep people in check that being the prison system
I’m on the side of Haytham, he is a Templar who saw both sides and saw both of their flaws.
While I'm re playing ac3
If hé truly saw hé didnt joint any of them
Haytham and Shay are my favorite characters. They’re what made me a Templar.
@@learningfreak15I realise this reply is late, but I would argue he didn't really have a choice and that's part of the tragedy of his character. In the novelisation of ACIII, Forsaken, we get to read about Haytham's childhood, living in London as the son of Edward Kenway. When his father is killed by Templars, Haytham is taken and recruited by them. As he grew up with the order and began to see its faults, he would also see that leaving the order would lead to his death as it would never let him leave peaceably.
@@darthnater9731welcome to the Templar order ✝️
At first I was pro assassins now I'm natural between both temps and assassins after rouge and ac3
Move to North Korea and tell me if you still feel the same way
@@Deadlyvoltage3 move to a lawless country tell me if you feel the same.
Just like Haytham Kenway, he has Assassins Root but following Templar Order
@@Nightfire-ui9zu Your tyranny in disguise is no better than a "lawless" country.
Changes depending on the Game.
AC 1 and 3, Templars
all Ezio games and Origins, Assassins
My favorite temps are elise,haytham,shay and Berg and lucy throne Al mualim. (Even though I dont consider him a templar because Berg listed him a an assassin with shared the same ideals as the templars.)
And assassins like adewale, edward,connor, evie,aya and her husband,kassandra and altiar and ezio,aveline, shao jun.
Èlise best
If I knew this video would get so much attention and positive reactions I would've made this video 20 minutes longer.
Its not to late
No this is perfect! It’s short and simple
The Templars was the greatest in my opinion, to me they had to prevail to make a very good order
Ooh my videos are getting populair now nice:)
Ironic that the templar & assassins in a way want the same thing but threw conflicting methods thus making them enemies. The templar say " in order to secure humanities future we will make a utopia by removing choice/freewill. The assassins say "people must struggle through lifes challenges & must freely choose to work together in order to bring about such utopias. Not all men can be redeemed by words alone so we do what we must by carefully removing such cancers from the world"
Almost like the sith & jedi.
They don’t want a utopia, they want a world order
Assassins are anarchists; Templars are Marxist-Leninists. Both have the same end goal of establishing a stateless, classless society, but disagree with how to approach this - anarchists want to abolish the state immediately, whereas Marxist-Leninists believe a transitional period is necessary to establish order.
Do you think the Templars are anti villain, and Assassins the anti heroes? That's definitely what I believed from what I've seen so far in the games and the movie.
Hard to say really
Thats one way to look at it. So far from what ive learned(bare in mind ive never played the games but watched the movie)they share a very similar goal. But their methods are differant. The templar seek to sacrifice free-will for security. The assassins believe in free-will but seek to keep it balanced, people need to choose to be better, to end conflict & unite. It the paradox of humanities duel nature. It would be as bad if the templars werent trying to brainwash people & basically place invisible chains/shackles on humanity
They both do the same function by acting under the same functions. The goal is the same, they do the same thing. I see no difference of now.
Actually there is no good side in ac but I’ll go with the Templars as the true heroes
The Templars could be so awesome, if they actually would't try to brainwash everyone in the world and turning them into mindless puppets. I would jump into thier boads if they would give me the simple freedoms of a Human to play games, read, write and do what i want as long as it does not conflicts with other's rights, but due to thier extremeism, they repulse me. The Assassins are maybe too open about anything, but even they have regulations that are agreeable.
EDIT AND NOTE: Please do not try to link these comment to the video. The Templar explained video is unbiased and done with research and has none of my personal feelings on the Order in the video. I tried to make the most objective and best well made informed video possible on the Templar Ideology, Philosophy and ideals from all the 20 books/novels published by Ubisoft! played ALL the games, watched the movie (The Novelization fices many of the mistakes), I read through the comics and bought guides just to give you guys the best Templar video possible... Why did I make it beside having fun? cause most people so far I have seen have their own personal biases put in these videos, there is a lack of information or something else entirely like trying to put them in political party's.
I find the Templar goals relatable but their control is so EXTREME that it repulses me as well. Also if people find out about that Abstergo/The Templars make all the decisions for you then there are no secrets, sometimes you just don't want anyone to know what you do in your freetime or just be alone but in a Templar world they would be impossible, they know all your secrets and you probably aren't alone, who knows it was your decision to stay in your room that day.
They also follow themself with transmitters which could lead to doubt and a lack of trust.
I really really love the Templars but their vision of control eh nope XD.
Question should I remove the ''Episode'' in the titles of these videos would that gain more views or less?
It's much worse, since a great deal of horrific events happened because of the Templars such as the two World wars, so really the Templars should stay in the shadow.
Honestly Ubisoft shouldn't throw the Assassin and Templar conflict in the WW settings not only is it basicly impossible to buy that they kept that silent but also because it sort of destroys the hole GREY erea in Assassin's Creed
You're either french or dutch at least thats what i hear in your accent
May the Father of Understanding guide us
May the Father of Understanding guide us
Master Andrew
Caesar is the father of understanding
May the father of understanding guide us
May the father of understanding guide us
For the longest time I was on the side of the assassins, but as I matured I realized that the Templars were far better. Total freedom is good only in theory: take away the rules and violence is inevitable; riots, wars, death, destruction.
The Templars believe in peace through power, order through obedience and faith in the Father. Better I think to serve an organization that seeks to build a world where every man is equal and constantly contributing to the greater whole for the sake of all than to serve one which prizes anarchy and the destruction of other men’s hard labor over anything else.
They tried to kill Washington
UAHA ToxicBoi they had a very good reason- at that time of the war, Washington was a terrible general, as he never won a battle. As far as I know, Washington crossed the Delaware and won the battle AFTER Connor killed Thomas Hickey
THERAFMASTER you Templar’s disgust me jk jk jk
James.T .Adams I think the Templar’s are right about humans having a need to look for direction and guidance.
The Holy Spirit templers your motto is you work in the light to serve the dark
Do you think Ubisoft did a bad job trying to make Templars good in Kenway Trilogy?
No not at all I really like the Templar portrayel in the Kenway Trilogy! except in Rogue where they just switched the Assassin’s and Templar roles. There is certainly GREY between the two factions but there are essential differences that Rogue tries to ignore.
Back to topic.
YES I like the Templar portrayel in the Kenway Trilogy a lot! AC3 has my second favorite Templar portrayel, if you wanna know my favorite well that is AC1. The Templar Goal is not bad in nature and there is logic behind it which people can relate with a lot but the means on how they wanna achieve their goals is kind of questionable.
In AC4 we see the Templars trying to arrest the Pirates or throwing them in jail. AC4 tries to make you sympathise with the pirates for obvious reasons cause you are playing as one but they aren’t entirely wrong.
Templars want Order, stability, Peace, safety and etc. Pirates like Edward do not fall under this catagory for obvious reasons because most Pirates steal, murder, are lose rooks who disobey Order and the goverment and etc you get the picture.
So what the Templars want in AC4 isn’t ‘’evil’’ nor a contradiction with their overall goals. Safety, stability, peace and order.
The Pirates can AND ruin the Templar plans for world Peace… ‘’Peace in everything’’ they want to end all conflicts small or big ones, people like you and me go to our beds and feel safe in the Templar world EVEN if it is fake feeling and a illusion made by the Templars.
Now with that in mind Governer Torres was against slavery itself even though he worked with people inside his Order who owned slaves and outside the Order to. Assassin’s on the other hand will feel disgusted by the idea only for multiple reasons which I don’t have to state obviously and makes them for the majority of the players more relatable.
But this little dialoge with Torres reveals that not everyone is for slavery BUT it’s still a problem inside the Templar Order that can create conflict, in a weird way it’s good that the Templars took control of the world in the Modern Day era because slavery today is looked down upon A LOT more than 300 years ago.
(Except now they can break into your computer XD).
If you think about the hole Crystall Skull thing in the Observatory (Brother Eye 2.0 XD) might be one of the best representation of the Templars view of the words SAFETY AND PEACE THROUGH CONTROL or however you wanna call it.
There must be no conflict and through this artefact they are able to basicly control the entire world. They can take down threats before they happen and everyone MUST put there blood inside a cub or atleast something so they can use it for the Observatory and the Skull… This is all accurate to the overall goals and the ways on how they achieve them!
AC3 well I can make an entire page on each character maybe but in short to say… Almost everyone has a high social status there and some not, Haytham Kenway the Grandmaster fully believes in the Templar Order unlike Thomas Hickey who only cares about himself. He loves money and other stuff more than the Templar Goals and basicly sort of uses them for his own gain.
In AC3 they try to show many ways on how the Templars try to take Control over the world and we humans aren’t supposed to think our actions are bad and that is why I like and aprove of the sympathising aspect of the Templars in the Kenway Trilogy it feels more real… But don’t expect me to mourn every Templar though XD.
Speaking of AC3 I sometimes call Haytham a hypocrite when that rooftop scene. He complains about the people not having a choice BUT he wants to make the choices for the people.
AC2 and Brotherhood are good examples of ‘’corruption’’ inside the Templar Order. Rodrigo cared not about the ideals only about his own personal gain.
So in short… Yes I like the potrayel very much:)
And no I don't consider them ''good''.
He are you interested in an Assassin's Creed Explained video where I discuss the Modern Day Japanese Brotherhood or the Assassin structure... I already have the scripts but if you are interested you can look forward to something in the future.
Or I interpertrated your question wrong somehow XD MERRY CHRISTMAS
@@obi-ytp-kenobi4712 I prefer AC4 Templars over AC3 and Rogue.
@@W0LV1E45
AC4 has indeed a good Templar cast who are not only interesting but has an interesting twist that other portrayals don't have and that is by making one of your former friends a member of the Templar Order AKA Benjamin. It makes them stand out a bit more.
I think i'm a templar. Assassin's sound like liberals
Can you make subtitle for yhis video because i think its interesting to learn, and the automatic sub may go wrong in captioning and becauese my english is bad. Please.
I go with freedom and free will all day
Yeah if u give people to much freedom that would create chaos
In the end, it’s a war between two extremes. And neither extreme is good for humanity.
I would rather have the templars in most cases I would want them but in a case like v for vendetta I would want the assassin's but majority of the time I would want the templars because if they were in control a lot of thing in history like ww2 if they were in control the chances of ww2 coming around would be almost impossible
@@Grimlock_king85 a bit late but the templars actually orchestrated WW2. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Hirohito, Franco, Churchill and Roosevelt were all templars who orchestrated WW2 to destroy the the world and then rebuild it to their image, this was probably the most extreme plan they have tried to create the new world.
Haytham really broke the stereotypical way of seeing Templars as the bad guys.
Haytham plotted to murder George Washington.
@@tigga2300 And...?
@@tigga2300 the assassins Haytham hunted destroyed Haiti and Lisbon, killing over 200,000 people or more.
@@lordbonney9779 One bad branch of Assassins doesn't put them in the same breath as Templars who would kill any who stood in their way of world domination.
@@lordbonney9779 actually Shay was the one who lead the hunt for those assassins
Note: Please do not try to link my comments to the video. The Templar Order explained video is unbiased and has none of my personal feelings on the Order. I tried to make the most objective and best made informed video possible on the Templar Ideology, Philosophy and ideals from all the 20 books/novels published by Ubisoft! played ALL the games, watched the movie (The Novelization fixes many of the mistakes), I read through the comics and bought guides just to give you guys the best Templar video possible... Why did I make it beside having fun? cause most people so far I have seen have their own personal biases put in these explanation videos, there is a lack of information presented to the audience or something else entirely like trying to put the Templar order and the Assassin's in political party's which honestly I don't like.
Looking back on this video now I do admit I wish I expanded more on it and said a few things different here and there for example ''Peace in everyone'' honestly I find it strange and there is something of putting about it that I can't put my finger on.
Nothing is true . Everything is permitted
Templars Ideology Basically Fascism
How?
- Said by someone who doesn’t know what Fascism is or it’s origins.
It’s genuinely interesting with Mussolini and his socialists and how the Bavarian Socialist revolution managed to actually trigger the Kapp Putsche, which lead to Hitler marching in Munich and creating his National Socialism. Fascism separate from Fascismo (Mussolini’s fascism).
This is very basic origins, others do it far better, as I said early it’s actually quite interesting and I recommend you do some research about it.
@@lordbonney9779 Mussolini canonically was a templar, although he created fascism more to control the people rather than because the templar ideology is fascist in nature.
Come we must go on a crusade, Deus Vult
Yeah so now Assassins Creed Valhalla has been released we know The Order of Ancients were the main precursor organisation to the Templar Order. King Aelfred of Wessex was the Grand Master of the Order of Ancients but when everyone in the order were killed by Eivor, apart from him, Eivor kept him alive. We then learn Aelfred was going to work on creating an order off the back of the Order Of Ancients but with more Christian Ideologies. We now know this as The Templar Order. This all happened in the 9th Century.
It would be awesome to have a WWII ac game wherein hitler is a templar
At first a was against the templar ideal but I rather live in a templar world then a world that ruins their own media like wrestling fans,star trek fans and star wars fans,sjws and people who throw the rock and hide the hand,I could not take it.as much as I like the assassins cause,but if their freedom is that,then I would rather side with the templars
Do you know what social justice is?
@@therealivydawg it could mean 2 things were the people take justice into their own hands or the loud mouth people who have hissy fit when you say something "offencive"
Can't say I disagree.
Franchises get ruined for either stupid ideology driven reasons or just destroyed by the people behind it or the so called fans who ask for change but don't keep the identity of the franchise in mind and never realise this mistake among other reasons.
I'd side with Juno like Desmond 😆
Aspasia was right on Odyssey. "Love is a singular comfort, what comes next means harmony for everyone" so long as it does come next
Aside from haytham and shay, one if the notable Templars I would like to be recognized is Crawford starrick. I have my respects for him. I think he is also a good Templar. All he wants is the peace and bring order to london. Probably his ways are ruthless like using child labor, paying gangs, and many more, but his intentions are good. It's for the city of London, and the jack the ripper Dlc made me realize that Crawford starrick was right all along. Ever since he died the city was a disorder, and it was not run properly, more crime rates increased, murders, theft. Another man is Francois de lasere he proved to me that a Templar can be a loving father to an assassin just like haytham. Even if he is not arno's biological father. What's even more respectable is he didn't indoctrinate Arno to the Templar order. He didn't want him to get involved and also Elise, when in fact he had all the time, and power to indoctrinate them but chooses not to.
I don't respect De LaFerre one bit. In the King of Beggars flashback he shows clear disrespect towards the class of the poor. Starrick on the other hand, is a man that I aspire to be similar to, ruthless and thorough, yet all for a greater purpose/design.
are they religious
Weiner
Religion is only a tool for control.
Some are, some aren't. But in the end, it's what William Marshall II.
It depends. They were all technically religious, but were mainly just paying lip service to their respective head of church. They used religion like kings in the 11th century; crowd control and stability.
I would have prefered you didn't include any sort of images regarding the Borgias. They are not true Templars. Hell, even the Templars of today don't consider them as part of the Order.
When I think of how edward would find out his son haytham was a templar, haytham is a knight and a ruthless man but his dad is the reason he became a templar when he foolishly trusted brich,that and that he was a pirate a life that is just as bad as a templar.
I think who is right depends on the context , the assassins under altair and ezio is something i would be down for , but if i was a colonial assassin , the templar argument makes a whole lot of sense.
Thank you for that master kenobi
If you ask Juhani Otso Berg or Haytham Kenway about the Borgia family and their allies (the Barbarigos, the Pazzi and their fellow conspirators, Dante Moro, Micheletto Corella, Carlo Grimaldi etc) they would spit on the ground in anger and disgust and say "May the Father of Understanding curse the Borgia name forever".
Can't blame them, because the time of the Borgia was dark for the Templar Order. As the Borgia and their allies were murderous, rapists, incestuous, and power abusers too.
It's better to ask forgiveness than permission. Im with the Brotherhood all the way. Not because they're the protagonist in the games but because I live in the USA and it could be said that it's being run by the Templars today. Freedom isn't free but it should be, to an extent.
@E S you are correct. After all, it was an election that put Trump on the White House.
This is kinda inaccurate now. The predecessor to the Templar order was the order of ancients until the 10th century where King Alfred tasked Eivor with killing the last members of the order in England as Alfred disagreed with their religious beliefs but agreed with their ideologies. He was the one who shaped the order of ancients into what would become the Templar Order. The new order held the same ideologies of control and domination but was more based on Christianity rather than the Isu and the gods which is what the order of ancients were motivated by.
Your Video Is Good You Just Need To Manipulate Your Voice And Make If Sound Better
Robere de sable was a brute he put a downer on the templars in the crusade however haytham shay rodrigo after AC 2 understood what they wanted and what they wanted was correct
LONG LIVE THE KNIGHTS TEMPLAR ! FOREVER RISING
Gee, it's almost as if the developers are inspired by a true story.
May the Father of Understanding Guide us
Caesar is the father of understanding..
I think they both balance each other out.
Is this a joke?
Dat phat Dutch accent
Illusion of choice?
Assassin creed oddessy?
In history the templar survivors went to Portugal and nowadays the military of Portugal are templars, their called the military order of christ
This is really cool thank you sir one curiosity though and this is just for a learning experience you said English was not your first language I was curious is your language French that's just a hypothesis again not picking on you because your language I'm just curious peace and I hope when you see this you have a good day
No wonder hte Templar fallen solar order keeps Assassin's Creed up. It is basically the Templar Creed spread to the masses.
Truth peace is achieved through the natural way of things. Order or control just benefits the few at the top while It’s still chaos at the bottom.
I think the way how the templers vs assassins is just a very broad in ideological terms. of course they are extermes because any point of historical ideologies can fit for both and not be contradictory. in its essence, it's the 2D Authoritian vs Libeterian axis on a political scale
So leaving the Templars is like leaving the mafia, impossible.
The templars are firm but fair
Lucius Septimius tells Aya that Ceasar is the Father Of Understanding.
Thought this would be a helpful video until i heard the voice. Can hardly understand
I wish there were more black templars (so I had more to Identify with, Jack weeks isn't enough). But the black cross is awesome, and I am team templar through and through. Even Crawford Starrik, crazy and megalomaniacal as he was, would jave fed all of London if he could have. (Child labor aside).
Growing up is realizing the templars were just Freemasons in real life
Order vs. Chaos
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QUESTION:
Which assassin‘s creed game do you actually want to be the Templar and why?
Revelations; I believe the Byzantine cause was just and the Grand Master Ahmet was among the better, more sincere Templars that genuinely strives for a better world. Not that I personally would agree with what the Templars advocate for.
There are so many. Can I choose more than one ?
Syndicate
this is historically inaccurate
Really?!?
Templars = The Matrix?
May the father of understanding guid us.
Based on what I've learned about political ideologies, the Assassins have a lot of parallels with anarchism, whereas the Templars have a lot of parallels with Marxism-Leninism.
Templar =Illuminati?
I think the latest "Spider-Man" movie is going to re-spark some of the Templar-Assassins discussions.
That said, who here is a Templar and agrees with Miguel ? Come my brothers. Let the Father of Understanding guide us the Light !Once Miles fails or accomplishes different results, the Assassins will finally see the realization all Templars are birthed from !
Bruh if templars would give basic human rights and use old civilization tech to simply remove the violent parts of humanity they would literally be the good guys lol.
I'm completly on the Templar Side and Rouge is my Favorit AC game (with Black Flag).
I'm team templar irl but I think the games get alot of stuff wrong about their view of the real world analogues they're talking about. The assassins in the games I would consider the good guys more so than templars.
The AC templars are actually based on real life
I always liked the Templars, the Assassins and their ideology just doesn’t sit well with me
Damn Templars are like Hall monitors!!!
Templar's could guide people to enlightenment and then those people enlighten others or help them.
Its odin is the father understanding
The world should be united under one god one people
Templars on Top