Real Lawyer Reacts to She-Hulk
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yes
Trump won 11 court cases on election by January 6
100% yes. Absolutely.
Please do a react video to The Office episode "the deposition". It is fantastic and I've been told it's actually somewhat legally realistic
Yes, please do it!
"they flipped to a legal dictionary and threw out some legal words" yes good sir, that is exactly what they did
Whycome he sounded like he was doing a legal Mad Lib? 😂
@@nehesimazoi3776 i know right. Thats hillarious
They needed the writers from daredevil🙄
Peter, is that you?
Objection!! Nolo Contende! I rest my case.
I love how the bee movie had a more accurate court room scene than a marvel property
Oh my god it’s actually true! That’s so sad! X-D
8/1I chuckled at this ty
Hell, Ally McBeal was a courtroom dramadey that did it better.
That’s a low bar 😂
Bee Movie is the best movie of all time. So that's to be expected.
She-hulk is as accurate to court room dramas as Rick and Morty is to applied sciences
welp rick and morty is quite nice she hulk I hope will do more reasearch for season 2
@@MIGUZI nah, they have zero incentive to be accurate to courtroom dramas.
Well, the show runner did come from Rick & Morty, so checks out!
And yet it ends up with a C, I don't get it.
Thank you!! Ive been telling people that its a fun show to watch but watching it and understanding it doesnt mean that you're smart and quite a bunch of people disagree. 😵
Your editors are on point these days. "Did you know: attempted murder is against the law"
Oh dang, guess I gotta stop
"Attempted murder!" What even is that? Do they award Nobel Prizes for "attempted" chemistry?!
@@JohnEusebioTorontoI won 15 Nobel Prizes for Attempted Science. I tried to create 15 rat with super powers.
@@JohnEusebioTorontoguess when I rock up to your place and you survive the stab wounds I won't have committed any crime then xD
@@JohnEusebioToronto”theoretical physics”
The writers for She-Hulk went on record stating they were not familiar with writing legal dramas/TV-shows/scripts. The problem is they didn't CONSULT any writers who are familiar with such things.
Which is why it was terrible
@@christophergarrett7082 Even without that, the show sucks. But, yeah, that is one of the many factors contributing to why it sucks.
Would have been mansplaining somehow
My only complaint with the series was how bad their legal proceedings were. I hope K.E.V.I.N. consults with a real lawyer for season 2.
most shows don't have familiarity with legal proceedings
I like how he even refers rule 34 as an actual law, and he isn't even ashamed of admitting that.
So If i makea game there gonna rule 34
@@near5148 I've seen some weird obscure shit get rule 34 content so if you had even one person following the work you make who has the drive to make adult content about it then yah it could happen.
It's a higher axiom.
@@theninjamaster67 if it exists...well. You know the rest of it.
it’s a rule but not really a law
but if a lawyer says so then it probably is
With the argument of trademarking the name She Hulk, technically speaking the law office Jennifer works for could claim they owned the trademark as they marketed She Hulk for specifically targeted legal services.
this was actually pointed out in 25:06 so rest easy.
@noonehere6994 under trademark law, the name She-Hulk would have been legal copyright of the law firm Jennifer worked for as they were the first to use it as advertising. In the show, the name first is mentioned (other then the title) by a eye witness. The law firm then immediately started using it to market their new department, making them the trademark holder, as they were first to publish the name. This played out in real life already. Please read up on Terry The Hulk Hogan vs Marvel Publishing.
@@hawkbat2001 And so Devin pointed out that exact alternate trajectory and I pointed out that exact part in the video. What are you trying to convey to me that I haven't already conveyed to you?? I'm so confused that you're making an opponent out of an absolute ally that I am to your argument. Who and what are you trying to convince?
@noonehere6994 I am pointing it out because Devin is incorrect and there is case law to back it up, which I have already provided. He states that Jennifer would hold the copyright but he would be wrong in this case.
@@hawkbat2001 I see, I generally regarded Jennifer *or* her law firm's victory as just Titania's defeat and pretty much the same in that regard. But I can see how the technicality that you raised still stands. Good day sir/maam.
Gotta admit I laughed so hard on the tip "If you want effective witness testimony, have a witness or testimony" 😂 loved the video!
Plot twist: lawyers do go to the bar after hours, Devin just never gets invited.
Ooof
😢
😭😭😭😭Devin
That ain't a twist, that's just the plot to Devin's sad, friendless life.
@@radiobaked You are vicious.
18:54 Attempted murder is against the law.
Legal Eagle, you just saved me from making a very big mistake at the next company meeting!
company meeting😂
Well, even if it was not the challenge with attempted murder would be to seriously attempt it but not actually kill anyone, because murder is a crime and pretending to murder someone is too.
@@svenkampen1647 bruh, I cannot troll people with an axe in 3am
Thank you for pointing out that Titania never had any consequences for her attacking the jury. Every time she would appear I always thought "Shouldn't she be in jail?" God the writing in this show sucks
Yeah, it's...I wouldn't go overboard and call it a contender for "the worst comic book show ever", but the most obvious comparison for this is Ally McBeal and...I get that a show where the longest episode is 4 minutes shorter than EVERY Ally McBeal episode AND is also supposed to be a bit of an action show AND has a third of the episodes of an Ally McBeal season isn't going to even come close to matching the level of texture on the firm as a whole as that show, BUT...the firm has, maybe, TEN percent of the texture of SEASON ONE Cage & Fish. That's PRETTY BAD, dudes.
lol and now they're on strike demanding more money
A filthy rich public figure getting zero consequences isn't necessarily *legal*, but it is quite easy to believe
@@PuckTheFenguins The irony is they didn't technically get more money at the end of that strike. What they did is win a bunch of very specific circumstances that'll likely make it harder for new writers to break into the business.
Anyway, remember how one of the best episodes of Daredevil was all about his job as a lawyer and not his job as a superhero? Thanks to She-Hulk for completely forgetting that. Daredevil proved we could care more about the secret identity than the hero. Which is something I've personally wanted to see since Superman Returns (Brandon Routh is a better Clark than he is a Superman). This series took "Attorney" into its subtitle yet somehow still failed to deliver.
Well actually that's not the writers fault. Marvel moved episode. The episode where Titania burst through was written as the 2nd to last episode of the show. All because of headbutting Jen and Titania had throughout the show is what made Titania mad at Jen and why she burst through to attack Jen. However Marvel wanted her origin story to be shown earlier in the series so they forced them to move episodes around and because of that it "looks" as if no consequences happened to Titania.
Absolutely incredible that SpongeBob had better attention to detail when it came to ONE court episode
Than a whole freaking series that revolves around a LAWYER.
As a bartender I can definitely say, you guys don't drink alone, you go out, and go out hard. Mostly criminal defense lawyers. Mostly the lawyers dealing with a DUI
Are they representing themselves?
Idk the first time that I saw coke as a law firm assistant, it was an atty blowing thru a line in a kitchen. Long story…and another one of my bosses who is also an atty has told me the exact same thing.
That’s sadly accurate. People like to make fun of lawyers, but we actually have extremely difficult jobs. We deal with the worst aspects of human nature and society every day.
There’s a reason why the rate of alcoholism and drug abuse is 4x higher amongst attorneys than in the general population.
I'm not a lawyer and I don't work for a private practice, BUT I work with the county prosecutor as a legal assistant and this is pretty true among us lol
My father-in-law was a lawyer and I learned quickly that lawyers are "called to the bar" and they never leave.
I can’t believe you didn’t mention:
“You can’t copyright art!”
“Yes, you can, that’s literally what copyright is for”
specific forms of art but not the entire concept of art or an entire art form
Well, to be more precise, "novel creative works fixed in a permanent medium".
It doesn't actually have to be "art" as that would be subjective, but yes., all art would fall under that description so.... :)
No, not really because it destroys freedom to make art. That is like saying I cannot make and sell monee style of art.
@@Featheryfaith7 No, it stops people from ripping off your art & claiming it as their own
@@wintyrqueen Not if you die. Then it goes into public domain. So, no.
2:46 as the son of a lawyer with over 20 years of experiense, I can confirm this is absolutely true.
omg I didn’t know my dad was a lawyer too!
This series had so much potential. It could have been like Perry Mason or Boston Legal, but with superpowers. But the writers have no clue how to write courtroom drama.
Speaking of Perry Mason, could you so a series of Perry Mason reactions, maybe 3 episodes per video?
But they didn’t intend for it to be a courtroom drama, right? So they had no need to know it. Isn’t it supposed to be a comedy? Though the courtroom and lawyer stuff should’ve been accurate anyway
@@dancesmokesmile344 There can be humor in a courtroom drama. Perry and his gang cracked a fair amount of jokes in Perry Mason, and Night Court was a straight out "courtroom comedy"
At least the supervillain support group, Daredevil episode, and the finale were a lot of fun. Basically, anything that didn't involve a court room was a step up.
This series never had that much potential. It was destin to be mediocre if not average at best
It was never meant to be a long series. It's enough to establish the character. Don't get me wrong, I would love a legal drama with She-Hulk, but the show was never designed around such a basis.
Love the “did you know attempted murder is against the law” 😂
"What kind of crime is attempted murder anyways? They don't give out Nobel prizes for attempted chemistry!"
@@ChristianNeihart apparently they give out prizes for attempted Lawyering in this show
@@moremiaj4786 do you not watch the Simpsons?
Can’t wait for Devin response to Female Lawyer Award
@@ChristianNeihart
If someone fired a bullet at you, but you survived that...
"well, let's let the man walk away free, he just attempted a murder, not like he actually murdered!!"
Jen ultimately didn't lose her job to saving people in the comic, it was due to her being a party girl at the time and crushing a photocopier with her butt.
"That could have been anyone!"
"It was a _color_ copier."
@@Wendy_O._Koopa Green cheeks bra
You can see those in Thor Ragnarok too.
Never wanted to be a photocopier so bad in my life.
@@_V.Va_ Never wanted to be one but if it's her we're talking about then I *definently DONT* want to be one, terrible character lol
@@CubicflowI uh…I don’t think her character is what makes that scenario compelling for them, sport…
Seeing this opening speech again is hilarious because you could play footage of her in the last half of the season and use it to prove she is just as guilty as the person she is trying to speech at
Good observation. Everyone doesn’t notice the irony of her actions but the woke crowd thinks this is some award winning , cultural revolutionary masterpiece. Theses character problems are more/just as relevant than the lnconsistent courtroom scenes. This show could’ve been law and order with superpowers. Thanks woke, new age, modern writers for F’ing up classics
When I hear lawyers tend to drink alone and, "Substance abuse is a big problem for lawyers," it makes me think maybe being a lawyer is a miserable, isolating, unfulfilling job at the lower levels.
Yeah I can tell just from the first few episodes of Better Call Saul lmao, lone attorneys have it rough.
That's why people need balance in their lives. You can't put money or career advancement as your only priority. You have to put family first so that you don't die alone.
I think the issue might be that you're basing your opinions of professions on TV shows that are barely about them in the first place.
@@kieranhair37 I don't care about the TV show. I care about this man's opinion of the TV show. As a result, my comment was not about something in the TV show.
My favorite part about this show is that the writers openly stated in an interview they had no idea how to write a legal drama and were flying by the seat of their pants
Sounds like they need to hire LegalEagle as their consultant on the project.
Ah, hack writers. They're the main reason Phase 4 have been trash.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom you guys never stop whining
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom And yet this phase is better than phase 1 and 2.
@@johnman8398 oooooh…not really. There’s cool moments but overall it’s worse
I'm loving the little "pro-lawyer tips" and LegalEagle advices from the editor(s), like "attempted murder is against the law" or "to deliver witness testimony, make sure to have either the witness or testimony".
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You can determine the money they pay me because of Oaklawn did sex crimes against me when they did sex crimes in all of humans population 7.98 Billion People.
@@Papai_Duda lmao
I love how even Legal Eagle was bothered by the lack of law in this “legal comedy”
I used to enjoy watching your videos and just laugh at your reactions while trying to understand the legal concepts but now that I'm in law school I can actually feel your frustrations and finally get where its coming from XD I'm really stressed these days but your videos make my day!
In the comics, most of the Avengers did trademark their names. They sold Marvel Comics (which exists in the Marvel Comics Universe) the right to print comic books, and other merchandise. All proceeds were donated to charity or used to fund clean up of their battles. One place this can be seen is in the pages of Captain America when Steve Rogers gets a job at Marvel as an artist and discusses it with the editors there.
which comic is this?
That makes a lot of sense. If you're a super hero and you know your intervention will cause property damage, selling the rights to your name for merchandising so that the proceeds can go to cleanup/recovery of said property damage is very smart.
7/10 smart
It's the same with the JLA. Their headquarters, while mostly funded by Wayne Enterprises, Queen Industries, Palmer Tech, S.T.A.R. Labs and so on, it was still open to the public, (though the Flash Museum was separate, it did the same thing), allowing people to come in, admire the art and statues and stories of their missions, and then go to the merch wing and buy all kinds of merch from each hero, and of the whole team, where all the profits went to the JLA fund, usually used for building maintenance and cost of staff, but also used for other things like collateral damage in the city or to the building/watchtower.
I love how Steve is using his artistic training😭
Here in the Netherlands it’s actually not a crime to escape from prison. They argue that it’s a natural urge to want to be free and that the government already has all control because they’ll just lock you up again.
They also did research that putting a punishment on escaping would not lower the number of escape attempts. however, helping someone escape is illegal though.
It is an interesting stance for a country to have, and in a sense completely logical. Though I'd imagine you can be charged with any crimes you might commit in the escape attempt? Y'know, assault, murder, theft of a motor vehicle, etc? I am really curious about that. Because it would mean they're not charging you for escaping/trying to escape, but the guard you beat up and the car you stole.
I've long heard Germany is the same way. They won't charge you for escaping prison...but they will charge you for every crime you committed in order to escape.
@@pelicanofpunishment6 they will charge you for any crimes you commit during your temporary Holliday indeed :). Just the act of escaping that’s not a crime.
@@BrutusMaximusAurelius Here's the catch, though: it's almost impossible to escape from prison without committing another crime. How do you do it?
1. Dig an escape tunnel? That's destruction of property.
2. Dress up as a guard and just walk out? That's impersonating an officer.
3. Bribe a guard to look the other way? Bribery is a crime.
4. Get somebody on the outside to help you? Then they're guilty of aiding and abetting.
5. Even if you can somehow get out without hurting anyone or damaging any property, you are still required to mail back your prison uniform or be charged with theft of government property.
@@Blokewood3 of course. The cases where a convict didn’t get charged for example was just climbing over a wall, a guard left the door open or escaping during a conjugal visit.
But the crime itself will never be trying to escape.
The Sling Ring that Donny Blaze used seems to be an item sourced exclusively from Kamar-Taj. If my memory serves, the only people seen using a Sling Ring have been either members or former members of Kamar-Taj (Ned being the exception, but he used the ring that was creatively "borrowed" from Doctor Strange). With this in mind, could Jennifer Walters have made a case on the basis of Donny Blaze using propriety (magical?) technology either for commercial gain, or in a way that could defame Kamar-Taj?
Can Kamar-Taj sue for defamation if there were no apparent monetary damages? The whole point of defamation is suing for damages caused, but Kamar-Taj didn't take any monetary damages so probably not on that count.
It's as if the writers have no clue about U.S. law, and are astonishingly creatively bankrupt and incompetent. MARVEL Studios everybody.
I just don't understand why Kamar-Taj doesn't have some documentation or something to sign about being a practicing sourcerer. even the Devil gets his soul Contracts signed.
Shout out to Jlongbone for that one.
A simple allegation of theft should cover it, no? You can't use stolen goods for monetary gain, last I heard.
Well Kamar-Taj is a pretty off the books, hidden establishment. So I don't think they would volunteer coming out of the shadows for this sort of issue. Plus I think they've got bigger fish to fry. Some would say an Avenger's level threat fish to fry.
In Columbus Ohio, a block away form the courthouses is a bar called The Jury Room. I believe it is actually popular with the local judges and the attorneys.
Yeah even as a non-lawyer, Titania not being charged REALLY didn’t make sense.
They flash some logic about “oh her fans made a fuss”. Like fans don’t make a fuss every time a celebrity goes into court. Doesn’t stop the proceedings then! Wouldn’t stop it here!
Titania almost murdered people in that courtroom over a parking ticket.
Did You Know?
Attempted murder is against the law.
i mean the next time we saw her i did say aloud "wait why is she not in jail?" im not sure it takes a law degree
It makes PERFECT sense in a world where fans making a fuss could literally end the entire world. People forget this is a world where laws would HAVE TO have already changed to fit superbeings, or the world would already be dead ten times over.
I mean, Trump inspired his fans to storm the Capitol, where a girl was shot and died. Isn't he a murderer and is now running for elections again?
Yeah, the writers openly stated they had no idea how to do any scene that involved legal issues and for some reason no one at any point said, "Hey, maybe we should use a small bit of this insanely large budget to hire a legal consultant" or "Y'know, maybe doing this show wasn't a good idea after all".
Your bit at 16:37 about pulling out random phrases from a legal dictionary reminded me of the M*A*S*H episode "Snappier Judgement" where a doctor with a lot of ego believes he can defend a friend in a Court Martial hearing and at one point he does exactly that, to the annoyance of all of the real lawyers in the room.
I believe hiring a legal expert to advise would be the ideal solution, as you suggested. However, I do not see sufficient justification for the show to have been cancelled altogether as it exists perfectly well as entertainment media, just not realistic (you know, like the realistic superheroes).
Pretty sure they didn't know how to do anything involved with writing a story in any way lol
@@wesley4125 I myself am not particularly invested in the comics, but I see no evidence that they were incompetent storytellers.
@@jarodjagges599 their character has no real flaws, doesn't come to terms with them, and doesn't overcome them to eventually become great at anything. They lower everyone around her to incompetent to make her look good, and they don't make her earn any wins. Its also just not that funny, at least to me.
@@jarodjagges599 It's more so that it's just forgettable like a lot of current MCU shows. just more content to make us go "ooh and ahh" a few more times till the horse is finally beat to a pulp and stops spewing out money. so on some level yes they are at least not inept story tellers but there not good either as they truly made the definition of a "meh" show. Add to the fact that there main excuse against criticism is that they did it to troll the fans so...yeah.
What I love is that you don't even have to hate She-Hulk the character to validate a dislike of She-Hulk the series; the writing extends beyond the protagonist, it negatively affects the work as a whole, because the precedent being operated under in order to communicate the writer's proposed arguments (as virtually all communication, including a story, seeks to do knowingly or unknowingly) is not reasonable.
Nah the writers arguments are pretty reasonable. They’re just hampered by surface level legal mistakes and awful cgi. I’m not sure how people can hate Jen Walters as a character, she’s really entertaining.
@@yepimhere5413For real, and pretty comic accurate too based on my impression of her general personality of both reading her comics and watching the show. The fourth wall breaks are always super fun with Jen and I really don’t see why a lot of people dislike *her* as a character because she’s genuinely fun
Hearing you, it shows they didn't consult with legal professionals. It would enriched the show. More lawyer aspects, defending heros and villains with more 4th wall breaking and less dating aspect.
"Cons: Ends every closing argument by telling the jury to like and subscribe"
gotta love those jokes
Man the last thing I'd expect is LegalEagle do an Adam and Eve ad
Right?
It's kind of cool honestly
But you see, there's nothing sexier than legal analysis.
IKR..... Sketch
The dude likes money.
I LOVE YOU for including MF DOOM in the moment you said the word "supervillain". I salute you sir!
PS: the comic panels are also well picked
I can't wait till part 2, I knew there were legal problems in the show but I'm not a lawyer, so it's great to have someone explain it. Also great to have Nando offer insight too, he's great!
Why would you want a part two? The show spews identity politics and deviates from any relevant fantasy/action that could have made she hulk a banger. There were more problems in the show than lawyering my fellow youtube user. Jens character isn’t self aware which is shocking for a protagonist that can break the fourth wall. Thank you woke, new age writers, for F’ing up more classics
It's set in a completely different kind of universe (or even set of universes). So who is to say their laws are the same as the ones in the real US?
@@jayewherner7435I think they meant a part 2 of LegalEagle analyzing the show.
The part I was most interested in, you didn’t even mention it:
I’m curious as to whether Emil Blonski’s original argument (that the show totally forgot immediately) holds water.
Emil is a foreign National on loan to the US Army as a consultant when the US army pumps him full of drugs that alter his mind and cause his rampage, then arrest HIM for it.
That sounds like a case to my layman’s mind.
I’d love an analysis of that as well. At a minimum, he’d have some kind of civil claim. Though my recollection is that you have all kinds of administrative processes you have to go through to sue the government for tort claims and the deadlines on those run very quickly.
I would think that would be an argument to be made at trial, though, not at a parole hearing.
Based on what happened in The Incredible Hulk, Blonsky agreed to be injected with the government serum. At that juncture, there were no known side effects as he was already shown to be overly competitive and aggressive prior to the injection. Following which, he threatened Mr Blue to inject him with a dangerously radioactive substance, Hulk's synthesized blood, which then mutates him into the Abomination. I doubt he has a strong case.
I would think the military has experience with this situation and would have Classified anything useful to the plaintiff. Without admissible evidence, there is no case. At best, he would be deported as a foreigner with felony convictions.
I don't think the classified thing holds up in the context of a public rampage?
"Especially given the rule 34 nature of She-Hulk in general. Do not google that." Has me dying of laughter.
"Do NOT Google that ☝"
But what is it?
Illegal eagle: Google that
@@Kathywake23 If you don't already know what Rule 34 is, then you probably don't want to know.
Especially since she has had periods where that is very much part of the character portrayal.
I remember an offhand remark from spidey about someone with a shattered pelvis.
It's incredible that a company as big as Disney couldn't (or wouldn't) get a legal expert to look over the scripts.
Disney has plenty of lawyers, but they're too busy suing daycare centers for painting Mickey, Minnie and Goofy on their walls.
@@DoggerMcD Good point 😂
Clearly, our real hero here is LegalEagle and he needs to help write the second season😊
pls no, it's faaar more entertaining this way 😆
This is sad, but I laughed really hard when you said “prisons….uh…IN THEORY…..are not designed to keep someone for their entire lives”
@@noncomplacent which is why it was funny.
As someone waiting for a trademark (actually, a servicemark) to process through USPTO, the absolutely most unrealistic part of this show is that Titania got the trademark registered that quickly. I filed in January and they haven't even assigned it to a reviewer (as of last night, anyway).
I was just thinking, could superheros obtain a 'servicemark' because technically they offer life saving services, even though without profit? Also, you could see in the avengers film merch of the hero's likeness, is it because of the Superhero Registration Act that required Superheros become operatives / property of the government; did SHIELD secure a trademark? Idk if im over thinking or misconstrueing what a trademark is in this regard.
I was also like.... they're not arguing in front of an ALJ? Why are they in a courtroom?
@@xxIAshesIxx
Idk about in Marvel, but in DC it's been established that Super Heroes make profit through licensing their images which is why branding is so important and I think that's cool.
@@xxIAshesIxx That's an interesting angle. The law has prohibitions for unauthorized use of specific signifiers associated with government offices and emergency services (such as the red cross symbol), which is a separate issue from copyright and trademark laws. I could see (as a layman) superhero names and images being treated similarly.
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This is why I watch Legal Eagle. I cannot tell you how many times I have had contracts deemed invalid because I used an inter-dimensional demon to coerce the other party. I thought it was just rotten luck, but now I see I wasn't using strictly legal means to get those deals signed. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle. Thanks Legal Eagle!
did not expect to see Adam and Eve as a sponsor LOL
1) This was the channel I couldn't wait to see a She-Hulk breakdown from
2) This was the TH-cam crossover I didn't know I needed
Except since a superhero is a superhero, so whether saving the world or a bunch of jurors, it wouldn’t make much of a difference in the risk of biased jurors argument for the firing. So Devon’s points applies to the She Hulk comics as well, and Devon not replying to that crossover message is proof (he didn’t want to alienate the comic book fanboys and girls).
@@pmpowalisz This She Hulk is not a superhero. I have learned from Nando and other positive reviews that Jen is fighting to NOT be a hero. She is liked by the public, but mistrial is Titania’s fault not Jen’s. It’s just bad writing.
@@DrVenture42 she saved a bunch of jurors with super powers, so whether she wants to be or not, the public sees her as a superhero, so there is a real possibility of future jurors being biased against her, in both the comics and the show. Now Jevon and you could have a real point of this plot point being bad lawyer writing, but my point is that comic book writers are guilty of the same plot point (the differences not actually meaning much). Also what doctor or lawyer who after spending years of specific schooling to do jobs that makes big differences in people’s lives would decide to be a superhero instead. The show may be lacking legal accuracy, but it does sound more realistic than the comics.
@@pmpowalisz Uh, I don't think that Devin not replying to the inserted Nando point is proof of his disagreement since he, y'know, approved of its inclusion and his lack of counterpoint is more readily interpreted by, I dunno, the vast majority of humans as tacit agreement.
I struggle to see _any_ logic in your assertion.
@@AngeloBarovierSD in his Daredevil video he left a snarky comment (right don’t hire Matt Murdoch) afterwards. Again he probably didn’t want to alienate not only Nando but most comic book fanboys and girls as well.
In an interview one of the writers said the whole crew realized they had no idea how to write “rousing trial scenes” and this video helps exemplify that. Makes you wonder why they wrote for a show that involves a lawyer main character, or didn’t seek any sort of advisor that could have helped.
Shut up
I don't think they really recognised that both Jen Walters and Matt Murdock are lawyers that just happen to be superheroes instead of the other way around.
@@cericat I love how actors are lauded for all there background prep and really getting into character. Writers don't even have to know about the characters theyre writing about. Not even a character in the same universe 3 seasons and a long hiatus afterwards.
yeah they should have gotten the Better Call Saul writers to consult on that. Hilarious AND approved by LE
@@Klektic1 writers should know the characters they're writing about, but screen writers are often contracted in because of their general skills rather than an affinity for a particular setting/character. It's not even really their fault, but they could definitely benefit from having the time and resources available to properly research what they're meant to be writing. Instead of what frequently happens where they only have a day or two to get a script ready for an episode.
I personally thought Jen first losing her job should have been something as simple as her company also represents The Daily Bugle who threatened to go elsewhere if they didn't get rid of that green monstrosity masquerading as a lawyer. Terminating her contract rather than losing such an important client neatly rolls into her next employer wanting her specifically because she is She-Hulk.
Too bad she worked for the district attorneys office, that does not have clients.
Love your ‘lawyer’ perspective on ‘lawyer’ shows. Any chance you will be doing ‘extraordinarily lawyer woo’? Besides being a great show, lots of lawyer/courtroom issues that we would love to get your perspective on.
Interesting idea but I wonder how would Devin comment on the Korean legal system and courtroom procedures without needing to do incredibly extensive research 😅
"I cannot confirm or deny that I also have superpowers" - THE POWER OF ATTORNEY!!!
First thing that came to my mind; The Power...of ATTORNEY!
FEEL THE POWER!
Did Devon just confirm LegalEagle is supposed to be part of the MCU?
POWER OF ATTORNEY
He does already have a fun name...
"By the power of 'Attornia', I am a lawyer!"
Devon screams holding his diploma and bar certificate. Before tranformimg from his Mac Weldon briefs into his Indochino suits.
Music: Leagal Eagle the US lawyer with most standing on TH-cam.
Leagal-Eagle
And the
Educators of TH-cam.
*strikes the 'objection' pose*
he can go up against harvey birdman attorney at law
Looking for a Phoenix Wright referance.
You only *have* to do it all over again in a mistrial, *if* you can do it all over again with a better outcome. There are really numerous reasons for a mistrial, depending upon the case, but if the prosecution's case is weak (which can result in many trial/pre-trial foibles), they can choose to NOT ever bring the case to trial again (to avoid embarrassment and bad stats).
One courtroom scene I would love to see you look into is the episode "Corporal Punishment" from Blackadder goes Forth, it's a WW1 comedy setting in the trenches, the trial is completely ludicrous but hilarious and I'd just like to see what your reaction would be!
I’d love to see you cover the comic storyline of Spider-Man and She-Hulk suing J Jonah Jameson for lies, slander and defamation of character. I mean, if you look back at all the Spider-Man movies, tv shows and comics there’s more than enough evidence to show that Jameson would suffer some serious legal action
Sadly that would be impossible to do, as much as I want to see it too.
The current Writers of She-Hulk don’t know how to write court drama, and Sony would never allow Spider-Man in a Live action tv series.
So yeah I agree with you.
@@FrostTheHobidon I think he's talking about the comic She-Hulk #4 from 2004.
Hey, that's not slander!
Slander's spoken; written, it's libel
@@KyrieFortune 😂 👏
@@FrostTheHobidon i loved how in nick spencer's run, jameson pointed out how peter did things worse for himself by pulling pranks on him. peter as spidey could have first stopped the libel and slander by legal ways then but nope...
and keep it mind, jameson at that point knew peter is spider-man.... and peter admitted jameson kinda had a point
Can we all give a round of applause to the editor for being hilarious? xD
Especially with "Saulgood-Man and Accociates"lol
“Fun fact: attempted murder is illegal”
i liked it when the DC guy was crying looking at the Marvel stats. lol
He’s a national treasure
They honestly should have gotten a real lawyer like yourself to point out the inaccuracies while they were developing the show
I’m so happy you put this video out. I’m even more happy that while watching the show I made all the same arguments you’re making thanks to having been a fan of your channel for so long haha.
They should hire you as a legal consultant for season 2
There won't be a season 2.
They need to hire a whole new team of writers first. The show was a disaster.
@@Shawn6751 bet there will be a daredevil show and she will appear on it, so basically a second season
Please dont
I hope that the season 2 ppl at least watch this
Never before in my entire life has a sponsorship segue caused me to burst out laughing. That caught me completely off-guard. Well played, Devin. Well played.
The *wink* absolutely floored me
Yeah, that sponsorship and him yelling at us to NOT look up Rule 34 had me cackling. 🤣
@@anasazidarkmoon and actually, she hulk rule 34 is really good, death by snu snu
@@devforfun5618 Nothing wrong with loving big women! 😂😂😂 Love the Futurama reference, too!
The life hack at 12:18 has me f*cking dead 💀💀 Edit: Wong's whole magic claim was that it was taught by a specific magic university and used for specific purposes. Donny dropped out and stole this ring in order to cast the spell.
I…wasn’t prepared for the advertising of Adam and Eve at the beginning of this video and spit my wine everywhere 😂😂
I was hoping you'd address the oath Wong mentions his students, including the magician he was suing, taking when entering his teachings. If I am remembering correctly, they dismiss it in the show because he didn't get it in writing. But I think it would still be enforceable as an oral contract. Wong could have gotten a handful of his students to testify as witnesses saying they also had taking said oath and recognize the former student.
Not everywhere recognizes oral contracts as a thing. I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if it would here.
It's not enforceable because there is no established penalty.
If I get you to promise never to say fish, and then you say fish, you owe me nothing. The penalty for violating the contract has to be in the original contract.
@@alphanerd7221 well no established *legal* penalty, but i'm pretty sure it is usually met with a gang of sorcerers showing up and at least assaulting the offender. though i expect this isn't something it would be advisable to bring up in court.
I mean, though, isn't the Sanctum in Nepal, so...wouldn't he need to sue the dude in Nepalese court because of jurisdiction?
Fun fact. There were several bars across or near-by from the New Orleans courthouse. It was expected of lawyers to mingle at the bars after literally anything. Just got done with discovery, time to do shots with opposing counsel.
Checked the Wiki in regards to Blonksy because I had mistook him for Sterns before catching the difference, and honestly it is kinda questionable whether he had even been tried, as from the looks of things after being taken away from Harlen he was put into Ross' Custody in Cryo Storage in a Secret Facility known as the Vault. Plus with SHIELD's Knowledge of the place and involvement in Guarding, Blonsky was likely made to disappear until SHIELD's Files led to his discovery, as in Shang-Chi he's called by Wong for a Cage Fight and then willingly returns to his cell in the Supermax.
I love this show, and I really appreciate your attention to the legal realism of this series Devin. You made one of my favorite shows even better.
They should totally get you to cameo in season 2 as another member of the superhero lawyer team
Please, just no. The show already has destroyed several established characters and plots already. Let us keep this channel unharmed.
@Silvestre JoJo I still have not watched that one. So can't say anything about it. Heard some good things bout it.
@Silvestre JoJo didn't watch that either. Didn't know they were difrent to be honest.
The last series that I watched and enjoyed was the sand man. Hope we get a season two on that one.
@@vahidfarahani5142 Oh please - it's a COMEDY. If a certain genre for you "destroys established characters", you need to grow up.
No! No season 2!
lawyers tend to drink alone
me, a law student enjoying whisky while watching LegalEagle:
😳
For the hidden comic strip about she hulk at about 5:33 you can use , and . on your keyboard when paused to move between frames.
2:00 Bro said "My client's expansion plan did make people die, but he had every right to begin with that plan"
To be fair, she accepted the offer on the spot because the review cut out the several minute montage of her being rejected everywhere else, including a place that looked like it was being run out of a storage room.
YUP. And Devin ALSO seemingly missed the entire subplot in the background of epis. 2 and 3 of Titania's lawyers getting her out of trouble regarding the court-smashy-thing (because, as we all know, justice works differently in this country between the rich and the not-rich).
@@blofeld39 Arguably, there's not a lot of reasoning for why Titania got off. Probably contempt of court in her first trial, destruction of property, and attempted negligent homicide. And since the show doesn't go into it, nor does it really matter in the story beyond plot contrivance, Devin can't say much more than he did in the video. Titania should still be facing legal issues for that fight at the courthouse.
@@blofeld39 the writers were either to lazy to give an actually reason or just didn’t want to waste the time. Either way no one cared why she got off. It wouldnt make sense no matter what theyd say.
I mean they completely ignored the fact the Wong should be an international criminal for breaking abomination out of prison but that also just doesn’t matter.
The real question here should’ve been “does our 22 minute episode need a several minute long montage of the main character being rejected in their profession? Probably not, but they didn’t have any other way to extend this show so why not
@@w.a.r4623 they weren't too lazy, they literally just had no experience writing a legal drama
I hope they don't go through with a second season, that being said if they do, I hope they consult real lawyers like yourself during the writing process. They openly admitted to not knowing enough about the legal system to effectively write about it.
This show was really fun to watch so I hope it gets another season
@@yepimhere5413 Second season got cancelled
I love the clarity you put in on all these videos
I would love to see Legal Eagle react to the "Extraordinary Attorney Woo" series on Netflix. It's a series about a new lawyer in South Korea that has Autism Spectrum Disorder. And while the series takes place in South Korea, the legal system presented in the show has a number of similarities to the American legal system.
I second this
I havent watch it but i wholeheartedly agree
@@troy10troytroy Try to watch it!! As a legal series, I think it’s one of the best especially the story
The law is not mear window dressing in Woo, unlike She-Hulk.
@@marshallboice4629 I know right? And sure the show does do a few things that are clearly for dramatics that would never actually happen in a real courtroom, it still feels like someone tried to make it mostly realistic. But what do I know? I'm not a lawyer. It might all just be word salad most of the time. Hence the need for us to have Legal Eagle react.
I really hope you cover the second half of She-Hulk season 1, if for no other reason than I'd love to see your take on the Jen vs. Matt case in episode 8. =D
I get the feeling that particular case would be the most legally-accurate case in the whole series. Mainly because it was so short.
@@theblackwidower I imagine it’s largely legally accurate, just not logically accurate
@@theblackwidower Its still written by the same people, most likely its just as inaccurate lol
@@kin3ticmc I’m actually pretty sure that the daredevil episode had a different writer than the rest of the show, which explains why that episode was by far the best one. Mind you it’s still like a 6/10 max, but that’s certainly better than the other episodes.
Don’t quote me on that though, could be completely wrong. I will say that the legal jargon in that episode sounded much better than the rest of the show
I have one questions for that episode, Matt is a lawyer from New York. How was he able to represent someone in Los Angles.
This video got better and better every minute but this 25:06, this was the absolute cherry on top.
I was hoping you would do an episode on this, this is glorious! Educational, even.
Would love to see you cover the Hans Niemann chess defamation lawsuit and surrounding drama. The lawsuit looks incredibly poorly written, should be good fodder.
-While it would be interesting, idk if it’s -_-poorly-_- written. It’s not -_-good,-_- it’s about avarage- nvm 💀
@@somerandomdude4588 absolutely it's poorly written. Even I know a lot of the legal arguments are just wrong, and at one point it says, for no particular reason, " Magnus Carlsen ("The chess God ") ".
It's not Alex Jones or Donald Trump or Rudy Giuliani poorly written, sure, but it's poorly written.
@@andrewmccauley6262 oh just read it, I retract my comment 💀
@@andrewmccauley6262 I mean, didn’t he also ask for $100M of compensation for the damages that the rumor did to him??? Bruh his net worth is a fraction of that. $1 mil would be a reach. $100 mil just sound like a bad faith lawsuit. Even Johnny Depp wasn’t suing Amber Heard for that much.
@@Aliens1337 Yeah chess players don't get that rich, anal beads or not. Not only that, but he's asking for $100m from 4 different parties.
It's clearly either protesting too much or an attempt to get a settlement, paying a lawyer who cares more about publicity than reputation and quality of work.
I always thought the magic guy plotline could have been an attempt to make a "magic license" as in not being able to use the mystic arts without proper training, it would have been interesting to see how those licenses are created!
and NDA's too
That plotline is so dumb. Why didn't Wong just take away his sling ring? He broke out Emil before that, he evidently has no problem breaking the law.
@@PsypherWolf Wong is technically an enemy of the State now. He broke a homicidal superhuman out of prison and then bailed upon being called out on it.
This is why they made the Sokovia Accords, to stop superhumans abusing their power to do as they please.
@@dannypalin9583 Wrong, because he went with the firm for help with the magician guy, so getting arrested clearly wasn't an issue.
He could've solved the 'issue' in 10 seconds: portal in, take the ring, portal out.
Everything involving the legality and trials in this show is embarrassingly bad. Half of Disney are lawyers, couldn't they consult a single one?
@@PsypherWolf Perhaps because it would've been impossible without ripping off his fingers or something. The mystic arts are not exactly subtle.
But I think the other reason is because Donny Blaze didn't just have a sling ring, but his limited mystic arts training. He learned quite a bit more, but he didn't learn how to use it responsibly. And Wong knew if he took away the dude's sling ring, he'd probably try some other spells that could be far worse.
She did threaten them with a demon, but it was a demon they summoned. She also saved them from the demon and from liability for anyone the demon harmed. I don't know if that's enough for a grey area.
The comic review part is far more effort than you needed to put in. I was avoiding this video for a while because I thought it'd be just a guy throwing in a "that's crazy" every now and again, hats off for putting in the same production value as you do for any other video. Never thought I'd be able to describe a reaction video as educational
Can we talk about how awesome Devin's tie "ties" into the episode? And how awesome Devin's editor is with their awesome lil notes? I love it. Thanks editor! It's a thankless job sometimes.
And how awesome Devin's tie simply is
"Did you know? Attempted murder is against the law."
Objection: at 19:40 you said Superman would not use his name in commerce.
Actually it's been established in DC that the Justice League heroes do sell merch and donate the profits to charity. Following the Death of Superman the clone had a manager who owned the SupermanTM, the manager threatens to sue the OG supes, but since his daughter actually had authority over the mark she sells it back to Superman for a dollar.
I'm so glad you reviewed this! I was cracking up watching this with my family and pointing out stuff that I was pretty sure was wrong, and I'm glad to see I was pretty much on the money!
There'a a brilliant TH-cam short of a clip from Justice League Animated, where the JL are discussing that their funding falls short of their expenditure for the next quarter. Batman says that Wayne Tech will cover any shortfalls, then Diana says that Wonder Woman merch has been selling really well, and she can help out too.
Which I found hilarious - Wayne Tech probably makes the Wonder Woman toys.
You should team up with a couple of other lawyers and have a “what if” discussion if the disabilities act would cover superpowers. I bet it’d make for really fun conversation.
That would be so cool!
Depends on the superhero whether it's considered a disability or superability. Ironically, hulk and she hulk are the best example of it.
In hulk's case, I think Banner's transformation, which is triggered by his emotions going out of control, can be classified as a disability because, while it gives him superhuman strenght, it also mentally impairs him, turning him into a raging monster prone to emotional and violent outbursts. This has resulted in him being unable to keep a stable living environment (job, salary, living space), being always on the run from the military and other people hunting him down. If not disability, then mental illness
In Jennifer's case, her transformation is more of a superability because she, unlike her cousin, doesn't lose her mental faculties, her transformation is conscious and stays in control the whole time. She's not in danger of losing control or being ostracised because of her ability
@@floricel_112 Then there's the X-Men (who may be integrated into the MCU in future), whose abilities are all genetic. Those who receive abilities courtesy of external stimuli (e.g. radiation - ignoring the fact that IRL, roaming around Chernobyl or getting bitten by a spider who'd survived a close encounter with radioactive debris won't give you superpowers) could potentially also be covered, especially if there are downsides to the superpower.
@@floricel_112 Some cases are probably both.
It would be really cool if he did a whole episode of sudden super power experience.
The other thing in Blonsky's case specifically which you didn't mention is I feel like the fact that he was in this altered state of being a giant rage monster might be another reason to argue for early release, especially given he claims that he was put into that state by General Ross, an agent of the US Government.
His claim that the US government is responsible for his transformation is not a good argument. He consented to what was essentially a super-soldier serum administered by the US Army to make him stronger. After that was used successfully, he coerced a civilian (the guy that becomes the Leader) into giving him a different substance, which then transformed him into Abomination. So, even if he did lose control from a chemically altered state of mind (which is arguable, since we know the transformation doesn't affect Jennifer's mind), he can't blame it on the US government.
But the reason he was a giant rage monster is because he stole the Gamma/super soldier serum them intentionally overdosed. All the damage was a result of his own actions.
@@jdtru1808 he could argue the drugs he was originally on caused him to lose control and steal the banter blood.
Would he even be tried in civilian court. He was an on duty member of the armed forces working (more or less) under their auspices.
Honestly, I expected him to be recruited into The Thunderbolts by the same Contessa who got Yelena Belova and John Walker.
I've been looking for a video like this since the first she hulk video, nice to know that legal eagle did one
With respect to Wong having no standing to argue he was injured by the negligence... Couldn't an argument be made that since Wong is Sorcerer Supreme and charged with protecting this realm from all other dimensional threats, and Donnie is actively opening portals to other dangerous dimensions, that Donnie is in fact making Wonger's duties as Sorcerer Supreme much more difficult, if not impossible, therefore causing him injury via negligence?
Please let me know if I'm right so I can then dismiss you with the epic phrase "I got no more use for this guy."
Thank you.
this is a good point
i'm not a lawyer, or anything remotely similar, but still i'm gonna say yes to this
I definitely can see Legal Eagle explain all these moments to She-Hulk, after which she addresses the audience explaining that's what happens when no one on the writing team has law degree. I think that will definitely be in character for She-Hulk =)
Am I the only one who thinks that Disney should get someone like you to come write the lawyer parts of this show? Or at least a consultant who can correct these sorts of issues.
Don't they also have
y'know
an in-house legal team?
They hired Charles Soule as a "Legal Consultant", and Charles revealed to me on Twitter that none of them (himself included) gave a crap about accurately portraying anything (to quote him: "jokes rule, lawyers drool"). He blocked me after he realized he had been a bit too open about how they spent Disney's money on legal advice they had no intention to follow, from a person who also apparently thought there was no need to even pretend to reflect legal reality.
7/10
@@jschap712 to be fair to Soule, he actually also said this. “I was able to read the scripts and talk to the writers in the writers' room and the producers and say, well, you know, in this situation, this is how lawyers and judges and the courtroom and all those things would actually act and behave." Still, the writers had freedom to either follow his advice or take none of it. At the end of the day, this is a comicbook series. Not a legal proceedings, so they writers are going to take liberties. Good writers can do both and bad writers... well... even Soule's run took in the comics took liberties. Accuracy isn't their priority. Heck, even DD was hella inaccurate.
@@rumblefish9 I did actually ask him if they ignored his advice, and his response was essentially that nobody (himself included) was concerned about being at all realistic. He had an opportunity to say "no, I tried, they ignored me", but his actual attitude was, to quote, "jokes rule, lawyers drool". Of course he might not have wanted to bite that hand that fed him by saying "yep, they were grossly incompetent, not me", because at the end of the day it all meant he got to laugh on his way to the bank.
Just came here to say I mostly just watch your videos and rarely comment but I love your personality and your videos are very informative!
The She-Hulk trademark thing reminds me of an episode of Freakazoid! where Lord Bravery had to change his name to "Lord Smoked Meats and Fishes" because of a coffee shop called "Lord Bravery", and the Lord Bravery coffee shop couldn't use the name they wanted because another business was using it, so on and so forth until there was a guy who refused to change his business name because it was his own name.
I'm actually more mesmerized by Legal Eagles tie this time around. I think it's a great tie
Green. On theme!
Hey @LegalEagle, I think you should make an offer to Marvel Studios to be a law writing-consultant for season 2 of She-Hulk.
Also, thank you for the entertaining/educational video!
I second this.
With any luck, we won't have to stomach a season 2.
@@SeraphsWitness Season 2 has already been greenlit, so cry me a river.
@@SeraphsWitness Good news, watching tv is completely optional.
@@knighthawk3749 what a shame. It must be horrible having someone disagree with you. How do you handle it?
this video actually brings up an important subject; can you do a video about The Law and Mental Health? like, how the Justice System looks at mental health and emotions, etc?
@0:30 "my expectations about legal realism are pretty low"
My expectations are none existent.
I love how Eagle talks about the whole being served. I deal with this this on a daily basis. I work dealing with legal debt and I ALWAYS have to deal with clients who think their smart and think thatn if they don’t get served they can’t get sued….like their playing tag
@@lostcat9lives322 it’s sad that the only way you feel important is to insult someone’s grammar. At least be more creative, that insult was pretty basic
@@Arroyo2099 You make the mistakes, everyone else beneath your towering intellect. Curious worldview.
Yeah I was groaning so hard at the whole, somehow the writers think 'mistrial=lost the case' thing.
Also Wong was harmed by Donnie's negligence. His actions directly led to Wong having an that episode spoiled for him!
Maybe a mistrial in the Marvel Universe means you lose the case.
Also, Wong definitely had standing, not just as a third party, because Johnny Blaze sent Madisynn through a portal to hell where she signed a contract with mephisto. She was then sent through a portal TO WONG'S HOME. And she showed up with a bloody, REAL heart in her hand. All that happened because of Johnny Blaze's negligence. *If Blaze hadn't illegally used a sling-ring - which is ONLY for students and masters under the tutelage at Kamar Taj - then Madisynn would never have been pushed through a portal eventually leading to Wong's home.*
@@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 And thus Madisynn wouldn't have spoiler Wong about the episode he was about to watch.
Also his negligence causes damage to the reputation of the Kamar Taj/Sorcerer Supreme
Usually that is exactly what it means, especially for prosecutors up against rich clients in complex cases.
16:46: This is how I feel every time computers or anything related to them appears in a show or movie...
Finally! I have been waiting for this one, glad I kinda able to pin some of parts that would have legal issues. I would love to see how the later half goes!