I watched the first game and was like "wow Pig is getting a little clickbait-y in these titles" Nope, the full crazy meltdown was there in the second game. Amazing videos as always brother!
You know PiG's a good caster when instead of, "It's gonna take this overlord a million years to get there." he says, "It's gonna this overlord like a minute to get there. Actually? A minute and a half."
Haha.... Awesome. I think we we all start a little bit salty with this game in our early Dunning Kruger days of starcraft. I was a nightmare when I was a waist high playing starcraft 1. I was a maphacking cheater at the age of 11.
Only one thing that makes me salty as fuck. When I’m losing and my opponent starts gg’ing for me and rubbing it in my face. Idk why but it turns me primal lol
The loser got the gamer-rage, he smashed the mouse on the table and batteries popped out, if the loser had any. It's also possible that the mouse flown from table after the the rage. Loser rage is delightful
Ye im not that chill to be fair. But why would i care if a random stranger call me gay 🤣 I was just trying to play the game while throwing oil at the fire
I think Pig might have missed it... Shreddern was using his not-so-high IQ to set up his 'watch the replay' comment by not using his mouse at the end. So it was just one more excuse.
Alternate hypothesis: he was playing on a laptop, so when the mouse battery ran out, he still had a trackpad to fall back on. Clicking stuff was still possible, but much slower and less responsive, making micro basically a lost cause.
PiG, just a heads up, you did miss an edit at the 22:34-22:36 mark. Amusingly, you seemed to even somehow be able to predict it as it happens. But wow that second match was a thing of beauty, and excellent detective work about the batteries. This video will stand the test of time.
well, if you talk about it while it happens, that is simply narration, not prediction. for it to be prediction you have to talk about it before it happens.
Shreddern may be playing Protoss, but he's been watching news with Donny Vermillion. Is he a former Terran salt fountain? I guess we'll never know the truth!
Ye that was a funny game 🤣 But was abit hard to focus on the game I was kinda laughing at this guys rage about me being gay and whatever And being a Biden voter when we play on EU server was just an amazing insult
thanks for providing great content lol you baited him well. Next time perhaps do a Florencio and give him some fake hope while you slowly torture him to death….
@@bullpup1337 i actualy havnt seen this florencio so it sadly doesnt tell me something Just started playing the game after many years break and found the channel and saltmines was hillarious and i was like, ye i got a good replay 🤣
@@bullpup1337 holy f that guy has some legendary builds 🤣 And seems abit more used to trolling in the chat while playing That's the upside with cs 1.6/go u can trash talk between rounds/deaths
Ya that first game could a gone a different way, I woulda put cannons in main base too if I had that good of a contain, not expanding was a mistake too, plus he shoulda realized the nidus portal strat was coming
Shreddern doesn't use wired mouses because the form of the plug leads to associations he hates. He also doesn't like to change batteries for the same reason (with emphasis on the + side of the battery)
on top of putting smileys on during losses, i completely agree with you PiG! enjoying the “fighting game” is gonna include losing! afterall its 1v1 somehow has to lose. lots of folks compare sc2 to 3D chess but that same logic should be applied to everything
Although unlikely, there is the possibility for the mouse to start acting up instead of just dying when low on battery. Like not moving as much as you tell it to, or teleporting around your screen. But quite doubtful that this was the case.
He shows it later, it's the fa... Word for a gay man. Which me and my brothers call each other regularly so it's weird to see it censored but the actual F word and all kinds of other things aren't censored XD
The proxy forge is so you don't have to scroll all the way across the map to build the building while microing your probe. It's called efficiency, duh PiG.
i learned cannon rush during brood war before anyone in my group of friends. it was glorious. the next like 4 lan matches everyone un-allied me(but left vision on so i dint expect it) and ganked my base lololol good times. a good friend of mine and i we would play 2v4 against lower skill lvl friends, he would go max supply zealot and i did corsair lolol. so bad but hilarious. we dominated
what ill do against a cannon rush is ill use 2 workers to follow the 2 enemy drones, then depending on the situation 2-3 to block the wall in spots and 3 drones for every cannon thats building most of the time it works if its not florencio :D
I’m very late to comment, But I think shreddern gets so mad he breaks his mouse cause he lost the colossus. Just a good couple smacks on his desk and done. Mouse is broken he’s fuming. Brings up joe and the rest is history.
That's why i use a wired mouse. His batteries could have been really low and screwed his mouse up, but either way it doesn't matter, it's not an excuse he didn't play well and he was either bad or dumb for playing with low batteries.
I think FirstFlame was trying to mine salt from those watching - by "microing" away every time he's about to kill a unit, letting the zerg count just grow.
The problem for Shredder too is that his insults backfire after he lost. Calling someone a mentally disabled homosexual and then lose means you lost to someone who is mentally disabled (their sexuality is irrelevant).
well to be fair he only lost because his mouse went out of battery the moment he actually needed to do something that needs skill. Or so we are led to believe.
I mean seeing his attitude I wouldn't ever believe his mouse died out, I'm 100% sure he was just trying to sell the lie even if only to convince himself lol
the mouse didnt run out of battery. his will to play did, then he made an excuse that it was his mouse. he went super heavy into typing after it lost, that's where all his apm really went
You laugh at shreddern. But imagine: you just got to second base with your buddy, hoping to get to first base, get denied and tossed out of second base, while your own backyard is getting probed hard. In the end you hope to turn colossus and get something done, but that too goes limp and you get turned stalker while a bunch of marines are barreling down your natural grounds. This is not a pleasant experience in Starcraft!
Lol. I notice a trend with these. Tends to be the player who goes for some cheesy crap and it backfires has the worst, dumb attitude. The guy who just plays a normal game seems much smarter and chill. It's gotta be the Dunning-Kruger effect at work.
My bet is that the batteries didn't run out. I'm guessing he threw his mouse after he failed to micro the first collossus.
most likely
Lmao
**colossos
That was my guess
haha exactly what I was thinking. He either threw the mouse or his mom came in and told him to stop screaming
I watched the first game and was like "wow Pig is getting a little clickbait-y in these titles" Nope, the full crazy meltdown was there in the second game. Amazing videos as always brother!
haha wouldn't do that to ya :D
One man’s salt is another man’s new favorite series!
Yeah baby
Same this is my current fave series
salt is just seasoning
You know PiG's a good caster when instead of, "It's gonna take this overlord a million years to get there." he says, "It's gonna this overlord like a minute to get there. Actually? A minute and a half."
Someone failed a cannon rush against me, then told me he’d kick my ass in real life
hahaha! "I'd smash you in real life" is one of my favourite genres of rage
My dream is someone tries it.
This show has made me so much less salty in my games. It's embarrassing
Haha.... Awesome. I think we we all start a little bit salty with this game in our early Dunning Kruger days of starcraft.
I was a nightmare when I was a waist high playing starcraft 1. I was a maphacking cheater at the age of 11.
@@ericbetterman9220 you‘re simply disgusting
Only one thing that makes me salty as fuck. When I’m losing and my opponent starts gg’ing for me and rubbing it in my face. Idk why but it turns me primal lol
@typicalplayer9308 that boils my blood. Its just such a pathetic behaviour too, i wish it didn't make me so mad
@@IsaacFNghost just leave and don’t GG. If they’re going to rub it in your face, they don’t deserve your time nor a compliment.
The loser got the gamer-rage, he smashed the mouse on the table and batteries popped out, if the loser had any.
It's also possible that the mouse flown from table after the the rage.
Loser rage is delightful
I think your theory is spot on!
Shreddern feels like he has... closeted feelings? Also nice to see some chill terrans, there's at least 4 of us
Ye im not that chill to be fair.
But why would i care if a random stranger call me gay 🤣
I was just trying to play the game while throwing oil at the fire
@@johnnyll91 oh my god its the real johnny
@@albedoalbedo712 the one and only but i just brushed my teeth smells minty man
Giga Chad Johnny with the comebacks. Specifically, Shreddern's back.
jesus that surprised me, giggling my ass off right now
Shredder obviously bound his f10 to his mmo mouse which is why he couldn't pause when the battery died. That's just good fundamentals.
The salt mines might be my favorite TH-cam series ever.
"Waist band it, mate! nobody wants to see it" WTF 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Pig might have missed it...
Shreddern was using his not-so-high IQ to set up his 'watch the replay' comment by not using his mouse at the end. So it was just one more excuse.
The mouse battery didn't die, he took his hands off to type salt.
Bless your heart for casting this. What a game!
That's a line from John Lennon's song "Imagine", isn't it? "Imagine all the people. Imagine there's no nydus" or sth. Quite a sophisticated saltineer.
"WAIST BAND IT WAIST BAND IT, NOONE WANTS TO SEE THAT" fuckin killed me man
I'm glad my 12 year old sense of humor is appreciated :D
Alternate hypothesis: he was playing on a laptop, so when the mouse battery ran out, he still had a trackpad to fall back on. Clicking stuff was still possible, but much slower and less responsive, making micro basically a lost cause.
PiG, just a heads up, you did miss an edit at the 22:34-22:36 mark. Amusingly, you seemed to even somehow be able to predict it as it happens.
But wow that second match was a thing of beauty, and excellent detective work about the batteries. This video will stand the test of time.
Dot will not be pleased haha she spent so long editing
@@PiGstarcraft There were quite a few actually.
well, if you talk about it while it happens, that is simply narration, not prediction. for it to be prediction you have to talk about it before it happens.
There's nothing better than winning a game and watching your opponent turn into a pillar of salt. Biblical.
Amazing, that is some good random salt with no clear direction. Good stuff!
Shreddern may be playing Protoss, but he's been watching news with Donny Vermillion. Is he a former Terran salt fountain? I guess we'll never know the truth!
Others: comment don't have sound. Me reading this: ...... Yes they do
LOL definitely an avid Donny Vermillion fan
This series makes me all chuckles, thanks Pig
I wish I had my opponents to wish me such luck with my bf lol
Ye that was a funny game 🤣
But was abit hard to focus on the game I was kinda laughing at this guys rage about me being gay and whatever
And being a Biden voter when we play on EU server was just an amazing insult
thanks for providing great content lol you baited him well. Next time perhaps do a Florencio and give him some fake hope while you slowly torture him to death….
@@bullpup1337 i actualy havnt seen this florencio so it sadly doesnt tell me something
Just started playing the game after many years break and found the channel and saltmines was hillarious and i was like, ye i got a good replay 🤣
@@johnnyll91 pig has a big playlist of florencio files watch from the beginning its a fucking treat man
@@bullpup1337 holy f that guy has some legendary builds 🤣
And seems abit more used to trolling in the chat while playing
That's the upside with cs 1.6/go u can trash talk between rounds/deaths
So much to unload in that last game! Laughed so hard 🤣
This episode is the best so far!
Epic salt! This is the type of crap I had to deal with in Plat, overall less salt in Diamond, just lots of all ins 🙃
4:23 The Dunning-Kruger effect.
ty!
4:20 Dunning-Kruger, also known as Avilo
The first game was so painful as a Protoss..First Flame could have won so easily if he had just expanded at any point.
Right! How do you contain
and not take the opportunity to expand.
That was highly triggering, easy win if you macro behind
Ya that first game could a gone a different way, I woulda put cannons in main base too if I had that good of a contain, not expanding was a mistake too, plus he shoulda realized the nidus portal strat was coming
Good game casting. Love the content :)))))))))
Johnny is an absolute gigachad
This content brings me joy 😂
Shreddern doesn't use wired mouses because the form of the plug leads to associations he hates. He also doesn't like to change batteries for the same reason (with emphasis on the + side of the battery)
LOL
Wow, Shreddern brought NA General Chat into the game, I’ve never seen that before! I thought they just hung out in Chat spewing their nonsense.
Oh man that Nydus strat was soooo awesome !
Great detective work and lot of tasty salty tears
I love the sherlocking of the poor dead rodent
on top of putting smileys on during losses, i completely agree with you PiG! enjoying the “fighting game” is gonna include losing! afterall its 1v1 somehow has to lose. lots of folks compare sc2 to 3D chess but that same logic should be applied to everything
The most legendary photon cannon rush I’ve ever seen 😂😂
"...as he goes for the Viagra upgrade... plus two to range." You kill me!!! hahahahahaha
Watched for the salt, liked for the detective work
in the same day, i'm watching your video and a game when Has disrupt his own zealots. This is a really good day 😂
4:29 The Dunning-Kruger effect. Extremely common in games under Master league
damnit that commentary at 10:50 is amazing lmao
PiG: "Ah I really should stop bringing up the chat to make my editor's life easier censoring all these slurs"
Editor: *gave up 3 minutes ago*
Bro, these videos are amazing lol
I feel like there's a joke about the implied support of Trump and yet deriding johnny for hiding behind a wall
lol good catch… and the classic trump response “I didnt lose I really won you stole my victory….”
omggg perfect opportunity i missed there
A lot of these episodes are cannon rushing Protoss players being salty when it doesn’t work 😂
id love to see one of the salty cannon rushers get their rush cleared out by nukes, it would be so rage inducing :D
Best episode so far
The protosses were very outskilled. Cannonrushes can get you higher than you deserve :)
I love these. Keep 'em comin
... does no one use the keyboard to move the camera when you only need to move it tiny bits?
Thinking about getting into this game. Is there a way to mute opponents?
yeah
It's in a weird spot though, you have to go to the Message Log area (button on the bottom ish right) to do it.
at first you think they are just a child but then you realize its just a really slow and extreme adult
Im always fascinated to see who will be the one to flame
That was satisfying to behold
I think Shreddern was having a mild aneurysm
just a heads up 23:30-ish the chat wasnt censored. Don't know how big of a deal it is for you but figured id let you know
Was really hoping Johnny was going to say something like, "Yup, killing off degenerate traitors and making SC2 great again."
At half past midnight I have been reminded to brush my teeth by pig
maybe his mouse ran out of batteries when he smashed it against his desk.
4:23 guess you meant Dunning-Kruger? ^^
22:05 - Seems like an accurate description, I guess.
PiG trying so hard to prove that Shreddern may have lost his mouse control but still couldn't lol.
So it would seem the key to a canon Rush is the skill of your opponent
He’s calling him a bundle of sicks
Although unlikely, there is the possibility for the mouse to start acting up instead of just dying when low on battery. Like not moving as much as you tell it to, or teleporting around your screen. But quite doubtful that this was the case.
okay but i wanna know what slurs they use
He shows it later, it's the fa... Word for a gay man. Which me and my brothers call each other regularly so it's weird to see it censored but the actual F word and all kinds of other things aren't censored XD
@@Dawindell ye i saw that later on
seeing workers fight pylons instead of cannons hurts me.
haha yeah I'm always screaming internally to pull more workers and focus those cannons down
The proxy forge is so you don't have to scroll all the way across the map to build the building while microing your probe. It's called efficiency, duh PiG.
Oh a rightwinger, how completly unsurprising.
i learned cannon rush during brood war before anyone in my group of friends. it was glorious. the next like 4 lan matches everyone un-allied me(but left vision on so i dint expect it) and ganked my base lololol good times. a good friend of mine and i we would play 2v4 against lower skill lvl friends, he would go max supply zealot and i did corsair lolol. so bad but hilarious. we dominated
I'm a Johnny fan now.
Damn lol what a match
what ill do against a cannon rush is ill use 2 workers to follow the 2 enemy drones, then depending on the situation 2-3 to block the wall in spots and 3 drones for every cannon thats building
most of the time it works if its not florencio :D
15:40 - the 6 x smiley face is actually a (3x) lol, you just have to remeber your yahoo messenger days >:D
Please help me understand the proxy forge strat LOL
Shreddern is the type of player that spends 90% of their time in the General chat squealing like a pig (pun intended) about politics.
Hard to micro when you've got salt all over your mouse 🐸☕️
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The second replay is the guy who always talk in Chat
LOL "what a hard right turn into fake news territory" lmao, when your base is on fire, bring up politics I guess, had me on the floor with that salt
I’m very late to comment, But I think shreddern gets so mad he breaks his mouse cause he lost the colossus. Just a good couple smacks on his desk and done. Mouse is broken he’s fuming. Brings up joe and the rest is history.
That's why i use a wired mouse. His batteries could have been really low and screwed his mouse up, but either way it doesn't matter, it's not an excuse he didn't play well and he was either bad or dumb for playing with low batteries.
I think FirstFlame was trying to mine salt from those watching - by "microing" away every time he's about to kill a unit, letting the zerg count just grow.
The problem for Shredder too is that his insults backfire after he lost. Calling someone a mentally disabled homosexual and then lose means you lost to someone who is mentally disabled (their sexuality is irrelevant).
well to be fair he only lost because his mouse went out of battery the moment he actually needed to do something that needs skill. Or so we are led to believe.
salt mines is goated
Proving once again that Protoss are weak to Dark Brandon.
@23:45 the editor didn't censor. We got to see the naughty words. Ooooooo.
I mean seeing his attitude I wouldn't ever believe his mouse died out, I'm 100% sure he was just trying to sell the lie even if only to convince himself lol
I like to think he was busy slamming his head against his desk in that moment.
30:26 lets all be real here. There's no if going on here.
plot twist the editor gave up on blacking it out
I usually root against Zerg each time (in a ZvZ I hope that both lose), but when I see a cannon rush, I would even become a supporter of IdrA.
the mouse didnt run out of battery. his will to play did, then he made an excuse that it was his mouse. he went super heavy into typing after it lost, that's where all his apm really went
pretty sure you're right haha
You laugh at shreddern. But imagine: you just got to second base with your buddy, hoping to get to first base, get denied and tossed out of second base, while your own backyard is getting probed hard. In the end you hope to turn colossus and get something done, but that too goes limp and you get turned stalker while a bunch of marines are barreling down your natural grounds.
This is not a pleasant experience in Starcraft!
no, you are right... Definitely trailer and some action with his uncle for Shreddern
what a clusterf.... of a game
Lol. I notice a trend with these. Tends to be the player who goes for some cheesy crap and it backfires has the worst, dumb attitude. The guy who just plays a normal game seems much smarter and chill. It's gotta be the Dunning-Kruger effect at work.